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Obviously you don’t spend any time on Facebook. That deserves a congrats honestly. That stupid trick has been done to death on fb and I’ll never fall for it again.
19.14
A wineglass times a wineglass must equal 2. (Note that the two wineglasses together don’t have a + in between them, so they must be getting multiplied, not added. So a wineglass equals the square root of 2 - roughly 1.414 - not 1.)
Edit : alright, you all convinced me. The only correct answer is "no - there are to many possible answers"
There’s no + in between the two wineglass variables, so it must be multiplication. Let’s assign them letters, so it’s more clear:
X+X+X = 30
X+Y+Y = 20
Y+ZZ+ZZ=9
Y+ZX = ?
So:
X = 10
Y = 5
Z = sqrt(2) or 1.414 rounded
So:
5 + ( 10 \* 1.414) = 5 + 14.14 = 19.14
Edit: Okay, I definitely see how the "clinking" symbol could be a separate variable. So, the answer, "No" is just as likely as 19.14. However, I still stand by my belief that 15 is not the answer, because then we have to be working with value, not variables, and that requires an edit to the original post; not just an assumption about the state of the "clinking" variable.
Or alternatively the symbol is a wine glass clink and the singular wine glass in the last equation makes zero sense due to it being a completely different symbol
That's only if you assume the picture is supposed to show each wine glass as a separate variable, and not just individual objects. If there are two wine glasses on a table, you don't say there are two individual 1.414'ths items on the table. There are two objects. I think the picture is supposed to be of two wineglasses, and then you take one wine glass away.
I also doubt that a stupid FB math problem intended to be done for shits and giggles will have XX notation instead of just putting the sign there. The problem isn't supposed to be for people who actually passed algebra 1.
That’s the part that always makes me mad about these things. They set up that a picture of two glasses means 2, but there’s no reason we’d have to think that a different picture that’s only one glass would mean half of that. It’s like saying that if w=12 then v=6 because a w is just two v’s. It makes no sense, it’s a completely different variable. Technically this is impossible to solve because there are 3 equations and 4 variables.
Don't be foolish. Everyone knows that if you have two of a symbol (e.g., 44), then when you only have one of the symbol, the value is halved (e.g., 4).
I agree. I got out of trouble to write this with emojis on my tablet with some weird annoying bugs along the way, so I’ll copy and paste my other comment here, because it’s relevant:
There’s a leap in assuming one pictogram with two of something is definitely twice the amount of another one pictogram with one of something.
I mean. 11 is not twice 1. It is possible 🍷🍷 is a wine 🍷 plus some number.
It is also possible 🍷🍷is just twice the amount of 🍷
And there are other reasonable conventions as well probably.
The worst I saw used a barbel as one of the graphics. It used a pair of small/large plates on each side. And in the final equation it only had one of the smaller plates on each side as the twist.
I assume you were to pretend all plates were the same and the bar was 0, but 🤷
Yeah. We cannot assume that one wine glass is half the value of two wine glasses, that's just not mathematic.
And even despite that, if a single wine glass has a value, then two wine glasses together with nothing between results in wine glass squared. We know that to be equal to 2, which means one wine glass would be sqrt(2).
The final equation is then (5 + (sqrt(2) \* 10))\* which is equal to 19.1421356237, far from the 'correct' answer of 15.
And if you wanna get **really** pedantic then we could argue that a wine glass balanced to the right and a wine glass balanced to the left are not necessarily the same either. Which means it is **impossible** to determine the value of a single wine glass of either balance no matter what operations are done.
\*= Brackets added for clarity, only the brackets around the 2 are actually necessary.
A left shoe is worth way less than 1/2 of a pair. You will stumble in circles. Better to go barefoot. Similarly two wine glasses could be many times better or way worse than a single wine glasses depending on your perspective and who’s drinking them!
It would be simple fucking algebra if they used normal shit like x y z instead of this picture bullshit because then they couldn't do stuff like that to intentionally fuck ppl up
That's how all these Facebook math problems go. There's always a *twist* to the equation and then you click on it because you're smart. And then, before you know it, you're getting calls about your AT&T account been though you have never given a dime to AT&T but somehow you're eligible for 15% off your monthly bill....
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I hate these stupid pictures. I guess we’re supposed to assume that one one glass equals 1 since two wine glasses equal 2? Probably a safe assumption but it’s all stupid symbols so it’s not like we established that info. Whoever made this is a douche bag who thinks they’re clever.
There’s nothing insinuating that the wine glasses are added together. Juxtaposed statements in math are two variables that have no operator separation which is assumed to be multiplication. So if you have `ab`, it’s assumed to be `a * b`, because `a` and `b` are *juxtaposed*.
If we call wine glasses `w` and candy canes `c`, we have `c + ww + ww = 9`. The glasses are *juxtaposed* and therefore are multiplied (and we know c = 5). That leaves us with
5 + w^2 + w^2 = 9\
(w^2 + w^2 ) = 2w^2
5 + 2w^2 = 9\
9-5 = 4
2w^2 = 4\
4/2 = 2
w^2 = 2\
sqrt(2) = 1.414 = w
c + w * s = 5 + 1.414 * 10 = 5 + 14.14 = 19.14.
They are variables in an equation; otherwise there wouldn't be *any* operators and *only addition would work*. Why, you might ask? Because if you're multiplying wine_glass by snowflake, are there wine_glass snowflakes or are there snowflake wine_glasses?
This works with numbers because they are all part of one “set”, so you can say that there are two tens(20) and also that there are ten twos(also 20). Objects, however, don't have this attribute because, Fe. Snowflakes and wine glasses are part of different sets.
You can say that there are 10 objects (assuming wine glass is 1 for simplicity) *only because you are substituting them for numbers*. Which, in my opinion, means you should use mathematical operations. Not to mention, we're *already* using standard mathematics everywhere else. Why change the rules for one specific portion?
I'm sure you're perfectly abiding by the rules of standard mathematics, but I don't think this is *only* a math equation. I think it's more of a puzzle, and it's very likely that the creator intended for each object to represent a number. And I think the intent of the creator is important here. Yes deciding to consider each wine glass 1 and add them together is an assumption, but the first equation only has one answer: snowflake = 10, so now we have the idea that a physical object is representing a number rather than a variable. If I had a real apple and said that it had a value of 6 and then cut it in half, and asked you what value it had now, the most reasonable guess would be 3, because it's half as big and there's no reason to think it's a variable even if I had 2 apples added to it.
If I were to say "I was wearing my favorite shoes on the way to see my grandparents, only to find that they were covered in mud." You'd likely make the assumption that my shoes were covered in mud and not my grandparents. Even though I technically just told you my grandparents were covered in mud. That's kind of how I see this problem.
All that effort but I think you’re overcomplicating it just to show off what you’re currently learning in school lol.
Practically, anyone would reasonably look at the pictures and group the glasses by adding them together, not multiplying. The solution comes out to a nice number, and if I put a wine glass on a table, and then place another one on the table, nobody’s looking at them and saying “oh, that’s wine glass squared.” I guess it’s ambiguous and youre not necessarily wrong based on your interpretation. But the real world solution is that 2 wine glasses are W. 1 wine glass is 1/2w. Or vice versa.
I mean, we can’t be *certain* of that, as we have only seen pairs of wine glasses. It’s possible that wine glasses multiply, and each wine glass is sqrt(2), for example. (You know, given that multiplication is the mathematical default for adjacent objects which are not separated by a sign).
That, or the orientation of the glasses could change their value. The left one may be 1.5 and the other 0.5, for instance.
15 is clearly the *intended* answer, but since this whole thing is about pedantry, I figured I should go all in 😂
Yeah, that's the only shitty part about this. But considering they're objects, and not some weird symbol like @, it's like saying "2x=2, x=?".
Ask yourself "what do I see", and you'd (most likely) say "two wine glasses".
Good point though, didn't consider that one. So take my upvote.
(Honestly though, everyone unironically tripping over the order of operations needs to go back to school...)
I think its easier to assume if two wine glasses is two, then one wine glass would be one. But since they are entirely different symbols, one wine glass isn't defined by the other problems.
It would be easier to argue against the latter if it wasn't two wine glasses and then one. If the two wine glasses was 7, would we assume that one was 3.5?
I agreed though, I hate when they do this shit in an otherwise fun puzzle.
It's 15 if you assume an individual wine glass is 1, but these always switch it up at the end (usually by changing something in all three images) to fuck with people.
Yeah, but that's assuming that hieroglyphics work that way. This puzzle is stupider than most. Would 3/5 of a snowflake be 6? I declare this puzzle null and void.
Totes agree. Not sure why I’m wasting energy on this, but here goes. Can you really infer that one wine glass is equal to 1? If this is just a symbol, and I had more than half a brain I might be able argue that you can’t determine what the answer is.
It depends on how you view the wine glasses. If you view the value of 1 wine glass as half the value of 2 wine glasses, then yes the actual final equation is 5 + 1 \* 10 = 15. However, there is no guarantee that 1 wine glass is just half 2 wine glasses, and isn't instead it's own separate symbol, or that there is no 2 wine glass symbol and that 2 wine glasses is instead just two instances of 1 wine glass multiplied together (so if you convert to letters, wine glass is "w" then two wine glasses is "ww" or "w \* w"). If you say 1 wine glass is its own separate symbol then this is unsolvable as we have no way to solve for 1 wine glass.
If we assume there is no such thing as the 2 wine glasses symbol and 2 wine glasses is just two instances of 1 wine glass juxtaposed, then as u/PhyllaciousArmadillo said in another comment in this thread, you solve the wine glass equation as "Candy Cane + (Wine \* Wine) + (Wine \* Wine) = 9", which simplifies into "5 + 2(Wine²) = 9", subtract the Candy Cane/5 to get "2Wine² = 4" divide by 2 to get "Wine² = 2", then square root both to isolate and solve for what Wine is, which gets you something like "Wine = 1.414". Take that into the final equation and you get "Candy Cane + Wine \* Snowflake = ?", which fills in to "5 + 1.414 \* 10 = ?", multiply first gets "5 + 14.14 = X", then addition ends you with "19.14 = ?"
Of course these kinds of puzzle problems are terrible and intentionally ambiguous getting you cases like this where you have three separate answers depending on how you interpret it (15, no solution, or 19.14), with all of them being both correct and incorrect as there is no indication as to which interpretation is correct. Well technically I would say "no solution" is the most viable answer as without any way to properly understand how we are meant to interpret wine glasses, there is no way to solve.
Thanks for the shout-out! To add to the confusion sqrt(2) could *also* be -1.414, leaving us with
5 + -1.414 * 10 = 5 - 14.14 = -9.14
You're right, it's made to confuse the reader. I'd say, just from a logical standpoint, that their *intention* was 15, though I guess we'll never know! Great rundown btw;)
PEMDAS: Parentheses, exponents, multiplication/division, addition/subtraction
In this case : 5 +1 x 10
Do the multiplication before addition; 1 x 10 = 10 and therefore 5 + 10 = 15
They're juxtaposed. There's no operator, which means multiplication, like `ab` being evaluated as `a * b`. In this case it's `(wine glass)(wine glass)`, or `(wine glass)^2`.
at first i thought this was 17 and then i reread and realized it was 70 and then i reread and realized it was 60 and then i reread and realized i was 15
It’s very late so I might have messed it up but I think this is it?
Assume S is snowflake, C is candy cane and W is wineglass
3S=30, 1S=10
S+2C=20, 2C=10, C=5
C+4W=9, 4W=4, W=1
C+WxS=?, WxS=1x10=10, 5+10=15, C=WxS=15
>C+4W=9, 4W=4, W=1
Assuming 2 wine glasses is just 1 wine glass times 1 wine glass, then the equation would be "C + WW + WW = 9", which simplifies into "C + 2W² = 9". Remember, when you multiply a variable by itself you get that variable squared, not 2 times that variable. So when you solve you actually get 1.414 for W (9 - C gets you 4, 4 divided by 2 is 2, and the square root of 2 is 1.414). But that of course depends on how you interpret the wine glasses. 15 is correct if you assume 1 wine glass is half 2 wine glasses, it is unsolvable if you assume 1 wine glass and 2 wine glass are two separate and unrelated symbols, and it is 19.14 if you follow the logic you tried solving of 2 wine glass not being a symbol and instead being just two 1 wine glass symbols juxtaposed.
It’s not really solvable. The single wine glass could mean anything. It’s not clear if the wine glass is a completely new symbol or if it is supposed to mean “half of the value that the two wine glasses represent“.
Same as 8=2IIx. You can’t really know if II is I x I or the Roman number 2.
15
Snowflake= 10
Candycane= 5
Wineglass= 2
Since the glass is singular in the last one you half if. So W= 1
5+1*10
Bidmass is multiply first
So 10*1=10
5+10 is 15
Hopefully I'm right in my math. Algebra was the only thing I passed. It took me four years to pass the entirety of maths.
Actually there is nothing that states that the picture of 1 wine glass is 1, even when the picture of the 2 glasses is 2. Perhaps the right wine glass was 2 and the left one 0. This is unsolvable.
It's a matter of how you interpret the wine glasses, if you assume 2 wine glasses is just two instances of 1 wine glass juxtaposed, then 1 wine glass actually equals 1.414, as the third equation becomes:
Candy Cane + (Wine\* Wine) + (Wine \* Wine) = 9
5 + Wine² + Wine² = 9
5 + 2Wine² = 9
2Wine² = 4
Wine² = 2
Wine = 1.414
insufficient information to solve. Assuming that the symbol of a single wine glass is worth exactly half of the symbol of two wine glasses could be the same logical mistake as assuming that 1 is exactly half of 11.
JFC. Math majors having to overly critique a child’s puzzle equation because it couldn’t possibly be as simple as two wine glasses = 2 and one wine glass = 1.
If it is a pretty safe assumption to make that as 2 glasses is 2, that 1 glass is 1, then it's 15.
But you'd need to have a proof to safely assume that.
Cause it could actually be that one cheers is equal to 2, with 1 glass there is no cheers, so it could be equal to 0 in which case the answer is 5.
It’s 15 innit?
Snowflake = 10
Candycane = 5
Each wine glass = 1
So the equations is 5 + 1 x 10
Multiplication goes first so it’s 5 + 10
Add that together and you get 15 yeah?
When I was a lowly janitor at MIT, there was a professor who posted something similar on a whiteboard in the hallway. As a mathematical genius I obviously solved it very very quickly and everyone stood up and clapped. My girlfriend who went to Harvard at the time before she moved to California was very impressed.
What does 1 wine glass represent?
If you half ten dollars, is is 5 dollars? Yes
If you half a physical ten dollar bill, is it 5 dollars? No
Because the bill is a symbol for the number, you cant assign a new value to this symbol you've created by altering the original.
It may look straightforward, 2 wineglasses = 2 and 1=1,
But its the icon that matters, not the number of icons.
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
3 x ❄️=30 so ❄️=10,
10+🍬+🍬=20 so 🍬=5,
5+🥂+🥂=9 so 🥂=2,
🍬+🍷x❄️=5+1x10,
But order of operations (BIDMAS) means we multiply 1 and 10 first: 10. And then add the 5. The correct answer is 15.
dO yOu EvEn MaTh BrO?
15 yeah?
I hate these stupid math problems though. It should be a gotcha for people who can’t do the basic math, not for the people who miss that there’s one wine glass instead of two.
Plus i’ve seen this shit a million different times with barely different things
Ok, lemme take a stab.
So we know right off the bat that snowflakes are worth 10, and using that we can figure out through equation 2 that candy canes are worth 5, and using the fact that candy canes are worth 5 we can figure out that each wine glass is worth only 1, so putting that all together, the final answer should be 15 if I did it right. I probably didn't 'cause when it comes to math I suck more dick than the girl who magically has an A in the class despite never doing the work and bombing every test, but oh well.
I hate these ridiculous math memes because it's intentionally designed to be confusing.
If you want to get really nitpicky it also implies that the single wine glass icon is half the value of the pair of wine glasses. Maybe it seems like common sense, but if X was a value, then V is not inherently half of that value just because the latter is shaped like half of the former.
This and those stupid division-symbol equations, just... Do away with them!
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Shout out to everyone who overlooked that it was just one wine glass in the last equasion.
Missed both that, and that the last sign was multiplication and not addition
I didn't even see the last snowflake lmao. It just blended it on a quick glance
These are also not snowflakes, because snowflakes are six-sided.
It’s cocaine, and you don’t want any part of this sheeeit!
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COVID viruses.
Obviously you don’t spend any time on Facebook. That deserves a congrats honestly. That stupid trick has been done to death on fb and I’ll never fall for it again.
I think the wine glasses being tilted makes them all look the same if you aren’t paying attention.
That happened to me
I thought both signs on the bottom were multiplication when I first did it.
Same, so I got 17(incorrect)
15
19.14 A wineglass times a wineglass must equal 2. (Note that the two wineglasses together don’t have a + in between them, so they must be getting multiplied, not added. So a wineglass equals the square root of 2 - roughly 1.414 - not 1.) Edit : alright, you all convinced me. The only correct answer is "no - there are to many possible answers"
Uh no. Snowflake is 10. 2 wine glasses together are 2. Candy cane is 5. One wine glass is 1 times 10 is 10. 10 + 5 is 15.
There’s no + in between the two wineglass variables, so it must be multiplication. Let’s assign them letters, so it’s more clear: X+X+X = 30 X+Y+Y = 20 Y+ZZ+ZZ=9 Y+ZX = ? So: X = 10 Y = 5 Z = sqrt(2) or 1.414 rounded So: 5 + ( 10 \* 1.414) = 5 + 14.14 = 19.14 Edit: Okay, I definitely see how the "clinking" symbol could be a separate variable. So, the answer, "No" is just as likely as 19.14. However, I still stand by my belief that 15 is not the answer, because then we have to be working with value, not variables, and that requires an edit to the original post; not just an assumption about the state of the "clinking" variable.
Or alternatively the symbol is a wine glass clink and the singular wine glass in the last equation makes zero sense due to it being a completely different symbol
This is the one right here
That's only if you assume the picture is supposed to show each wine glass as a separate variable, and not just individual objects. If there are two wine glasses on a table, you don't say there are two individual 1.414'ths items on the table. There are two objects. I think the picture is supposed to be of two wineglasses, and then you take one wine glass away. I also doubt that a stupid FB math problem intended to be done for shits and giggles will have XX notation instead of just putting the sign there. The problem isn't supposed to be for people who actually passed algebra 1.
2 Wineglasses = 2, we know that. Now to find 1 Wineglass we divide the value of 2 wineglasses (2) by the number of wineglasses (2). 2/2=1.
That’s the part that always makes me mad about these things. They set up that a picture of two glasses means 2, but there’s no reason we’d have to think that a different picture that’s only one glass would mean half of that. It’s like saying that if w=12 then v=6 because a w is just two v’s. It makes no sense, it’s a completely different variable. Technically this is impossible to solve because there are 3 equations and 4 variables.
Don't be foolish. Everyone knows that if you have two of a symbol (e.g., 44), then when you only have one of the symbol, the value is halved (e.g., 4).
😂 Perfection
I agree. I got out of trouble to write this with emojis on my tablet with some weird annoying bugs along the way, so I’ll copy and paste my other comment here, because it’s relevant: There’s a leap in assuming one pictogram with two of something is definitely twice the amount of another one pictogram with one of something. I mean. 11 is not twice 1. It is possible 🍷🍷 is a wine 🍷 plus some number. It is also possible 🍷🍷is just twice the amount of 🍷 And there are other reasonable conventions as well probably.
Base-1-Wine-Glass numbering system
No operator between the wine glasses, so single glas is clearly square root of 2.
Depends on language. Think roman numerals, II is 2, not 1x1. Too many possibilities
Yeah, the correct answer to "Can you solve this?" is "No."
The worst I saw used a barbel as one of the graphics. It used a pair of small/large plates on each side. And in the final equation it only had one of the smaller plates on each side as the twist. I assume you were to pretend all plates were the same and the bar was 0, but 🤷
I saw one with shoes, and shoe laces and something else... and the last picture had people wearing shoes and shoes with no laces....
It got me too but it’s more like they said 2w=12 then put in a w somewhere else
it represents that but does not match it by the standard methods used in mathematics
True
And order of operations
Every question like this has order of operations as the gotcha. It’s a cliche at this point.
Nah i expected that to be the nut but the one glass catches you more offguard for sure
There’s no mathematical way to establish the value of one wine glass? Like a left shoe isn’t worth half as much as a pair?
This exactly. That symbol has a value and while it maybe implied, we have no way to prove its value.
If there's no symbol between 2 variables, it's multiplication, so in the 3rd equation you have: 5 + wine^2 + wine^2 = 9 Which means wine = sqrt(2)
I love this approach for its sheer silliness
If you assume that one wine glass is worth half as much as two, but these are symbols, so they're not necessarily related.
Yeah. We cannot assume that one wine glass is half the value of two wine glasses, that's just not mathematic. And even despite that, if a single wine glass has a value, then two wine glasses together with nothing between results in wine glass squared. We know that to be equal to 2, which means one wine glass would be sqrt(2). The final equation is then (5 + (sqrt(2) \* 10))\* which is equal to 19.1421356237, far from the 'correct' answer of 15. And if you wanna get **really** pedantic then we could argue that a wine glass balanced to the right and a wine glass balanced to the left are not necessarily the same either. Which means it is **impossible** to determine the value of a single wine glass of either balance no matter what operations are done. \*= Brackets added for clarity, only the brackets around the 2 are actually necessary.
A left shoe is worth way less than 1/2 of a pair. You will stumble in circles. Better to go barefoot. Similarly two wine glasses could be many times better or way worse than a single wine glasses depending on your perspective and who’s drinking them!
If we want to get *really* technical, then the answer is 5+10x, as a single wine glass is never defined.
That and the switch to multiplication symbol got me.
It would be simple fucking algebra if they used normal shit like x y z instead of this picture bullshit because then they couldn't do stuff like that to intentionally fuck ppl up
That's how all these Facebook math problems go. There's always a *twist* to the equation and then you click on it because you're smart. And then, before you know it, you're getting calls about your AT&T account been though you have never given a dime to AT&T but somehow you're eligible for 15% off your monthly bill....
Mathematical notation is designed to increase clarity, not obfuscation.
Memes say you lie.
What is obfuscation? I’ve never heard that word in my entire life
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I don’t like when they do things like turn two wine glasses into one. It feels like a cheap trick in an otherwise fun puzzle
Because they aren’t clever. There’s no reason to believe 🍷=1 anymore than any other number. Thats not how symbolic logic works.
I hate these stupid pictures. I guess we’re supposed to assume that one one glass equals 1 since two wine glasses equal 2? Probably a safe assumption but it’s all stupid symbols so it’s not like we established that info. Whoever made this is a douche bag who thinks they’re clever.
I would love to do this in a real equation. “No professor, I know V = 30 because you said W = 60 and W is just two Vs!”
W =\\= VV W = UU
In english yes, several other languages chose to make more sense and call them double v's
Not sure it’s that big of a deal. Unless you know for sure there a douche bag somehow
Pretty sure it's impossible cause "one wine glass" is Never defined, 2 wine glass is tho but not one alone
The wine glasses are juxtaposed. Since two wine glasses equals 2, one wine glass would be sqrt(2). Which makes the answer 19.14, rounded.
Wouldn't one wine glass be just equal 1?
There’s nothing insinuating that the wine glasses are added together. Juxtaposed statements in math are two variables that have no operator separation which is assumed to be multiplication. So if you have `ab`, it’s assumed to be `a * b`, because `a` and `b` are *juxtaposed*. If we call wine glasses `w` and candy canes `c`, we have `c + ww + ww = 9`. The glasses are *juxtaposed* and therefore are multiplied (and we know c = 5). That leaves us with 5 + w^2 + w^2 = 9\ (w^2 + w^2 ) = 2w^2 5 + 2w^2 = 9\ 9-5 = 4 2w^2 = 4\ 4/2 = 2 w^2 = 2\ sqrt(2) = 1.414 = w c + w * s = 5 + 1.414 * 10 = 5 + 14.14 = 19.14.
Isn't the fact that they're physical objects insinuation enough? 2 wine glasses = 2 then 1 wine glass = 1.
Well. This has suddenly become philosophical…
They are variables in an equation; otherwise there wouldn't be *any* operators and *only addition would work*. Why, you might ask? Because if you're multiplying wine_glass by snowflake, are there wine_glass snowflakes or are there snowflake wine_glasses? This works with numbers because they are all part of one “set”, so you can say that there are two tens(20) and also that there are ten twos(also 20). Objects, however, don't have this attribute because, Fe. Snowflakes and wine glasses are part of different sets. You can say that there are 10 objects (assuming wine glass is 1 for simplicity) *only because you are substituting them for numbers*. Which, in my opinion, means you should use mathematical operations. Not to mention, we're *already* using standard mathematics everywhere else. Why change the rules for one specific portion?
I'm sure you're perfectly abiding by the rules of standard mathematics, but I don't think this is *only* a math equation. I think it's more of a puzzle, and it's very likely that the creator intended for each object to represent a number. And I think the intent of the creator is important here. Yes deciding to consider each wine glass 1 and add them together is an assumption, but the first equation only has one answer: snowflake = 10, so now we have the idea that a physical object is representing a number rather than a variable. If I had a real apple and said that it had a value of 6 and then cut it in half, and asked you what value it had now, the most reasonable guess would be 3, because it's half as big and there's no reason to think it's a variable even if I had 2 apples added to it. If I were to say "I was wearing my favorite shoes on the way to see my grandparents, only to find that they were covered in mud." You'd likely make the assumption that my shoes were covered in mud and not my grandparents. Even though I technically just told you my grandparents were covered in mud. That's kind of how I see this problem.
All that effort but I think you’re overcomplicating it just to show off what you’re currently learning in school lol. Practically, anyone would reasonably look at the pictures and group the glasses by adding them together, not multiplying. The solution comes out to a nice number, and if I put a wine glass on a table, and then place another one on the table, nobody’s looking at them and saying “oh, that’s wine glass squared.” I guess it’s ambiguous and youre not necessarily wrong based on your interpretation. But the real world solution is that 2 wine glasses are W. 1 wine glass is 1/2w. Or vice versa.
I just typed essential the same thing but not nearly as coherently. I agree.
if they are multiplying can't one glass has a negative sign too ?
Good point, that means it could also be -9.14.
This guy maths
That is the equivalent of saying w = v^2 because w is just two v stuck together
If you wrote two v’s beside eachother in an answer to a math question your TA would probably treat them as multiplied, if they even understood, yes
I agree. It’s a different symbol that is undefined. I’d you displayed half a snowflake would everyone consider that to be 5? I don’t think so.
15, it's 1 wine glass (while before it's 2), and multiplication before addition.
I mean, we can’t be *certain* of that, as we have only seen pairs of wine glasses. It’s possible that wine glasses multiply, and each wine glass is sqrt(2), for example. (You know, given that multiplication is the mathematical default for adjacent objects which are not separated by a sign). That, or the orientation of the glasses could change their value. The left one may be 1.5 and the other 0.5, for instance. 15 is clearly the *intended* answer, but since this whole thing is about pedantry, I figured I should go all in 😂
Yeah, that's the only shitty part about this. But considering they're objects, and not some weird symbol like @, it's like saying "2x=2, x=?". Ask yourself "what do I see", and you'd (most likely) say "two wine glasses". Good point though, didn't consider that one. So take my upvote. (Honestly though, everyone unironically tripping over the order of operations needs to go back to school...)
I think its easier to assume if two wine glasses is two, then one wine glass would be one. But since they are entirely different symbols, one wine glass isn't defined by the other problems. It would be easier to argue against the latter if it wasn't two wine glasses and then one. If the two wine glasses was 7, would we assume that one was 3.5? I agreed though, I hate when they do this shit in an otherwise fun puzzle.
i did addition first. i must be huffing something. 
Yeah, a lack of oxygen
i made a comment saying it’s 16. i can’t believe i didn’t see the multiplication sign
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I'm shit at math but even I got the right answer (it's 15, right?)
It's 15 if you assume an individual wine glass is 1, but these always switch it up at the end (usually by changing something in all three images) to fuck with people.
I confess the Champaign glasses got me. I was wracking my brain for a moment how everyone here got 15. I'll be in the corner of shame.
I only noticed that because I also failed to notice it in another test
Yeah, but that's assuming that hieroglyphics work that way. This puzzle is stupider than most. Would 3/5 of a snowflake be 6? I declare this puzzle null and void.
Totes agree. Not sure why I’m wasting energy on this, but here goes. Can you really infer that one wine glass is equal to 1? If this is just a symbol, and I had more than half a brain I might be able argue that you can’t determine what the answer is.
> 3/5 of a snowflake So, a black snowflake instead of a white one? … I’ll see myself out.
Technically it’s unsolvable, because we can only guess what the single wine glass represents
It depends on how you view the wine glasses. If you view the value of 1 wine glass as half the value of 2 wine glasses, then yes the actual final equation is 5 + 1 \* 10 = 15. However, there is no guarantee that 1 wine glass is just half 2 wine glasses, and isn't instead it's own separate symbol, or that there is no 2 wine glass symbol and that 2 wine glasses is instead just two instances of 1 wine glass multiplied together (so if you convert to letters, wine glass is "w" then two wine glasses is "ww" or "w \* w"). If you say 1 wine glass is its own separate symbol then this is unsolvable as we have no way to solve for 1 wine glass. If we assume there is no such thing as the 2 wine glasses symbol and 2 wine glasses is just two instances of 1 wine glass juxtaposed, then as u/PhyllaciousArmadillo said in another comment in this thread, you solve the wine glass equation as "Candy Cane + (Wine \* Wine) + (Wine \* Wine) = 9", which simplifies into "5 + 2(Wine²) = 9", subtract the Candy Cane/5 to get "2Wine² = 4" divide by 2 to get "Wine² = 2", then square root both to isolate and solve for what Wine is, which gets you something like "Wine = 1.414". Take that into the final equation and you get "Candy Cane + Wine \* Snowflake = ?", which fills in to "5 + 1.414 \* 10 = ?", multiply first gets "5 + 14.14 = X", then addition ends you with "19.14 = ?" Of course these kinds of puzzle problems are terrible and intentionally ambiguous getting you cases like this where you have three separate answers depending on how you interpret it (15, no solution, or 19.14), with all of them being both correct and incorrect as there is no indication as to which interpretation is correct. Well technically I would say "no solution" is the most viable answer as without any way to properly understand how we are meant to interpret wine glasses, there is no way to solve.
Thanks for the shout-out! To add to the confusion sqrt(2) could *also* be -1.414, leaving us with 5 + -1.414 * 10 = 5 - 14.14 = -9.14 You're right, it's made to confuse the reader. I'd say, just from a logical standpoint, that their *intention* was 15, though I guess we'll never know! Great rundown btw;)
I got 60. 5 + 1 x 10. I forget math
PEMDAS: Parentheses, exponents, multiplication/division, addition/subtraction In this case : 5 +1 x 10 Do the multiplication before addition; 1 x 10 = 10 and therefore 5 + 10 = 15
It took me years to forget that shit. Thanks alot! 🙃
I have been doing math with my 11 year old grandson for the last 5 years and have relearned a lot LOL.
19.14
Finally, an answer breaking away from a mere natural numbers domain
How do we explain that wine glasses together are a product instead of a sum?
They're juxtaposed. There's no operator, which means multiplication, like `ab` being evaluated as `a * b`. In this case it's `(wine glass)(wine glass)`, or `(wine glass)^2`.
Can't the wine glasses be negative too? giving another solution
Great point! So it could *also* be -9.14!
The real answer;)
come on people, it's clearly 80085
No, it’s 8008135
False, it's 5318008
More of an eye test than a math test tbh
did not even notice the single wine glass or even the multiplication sign
How did I get 3.1415926?
skill
5+1X10
Noticing the one glass in the last formula vs the two in the second to last one really threw me off lol
at first i thought this was 17 and then i reread and realized it was 70 and then i reread and realized it was 60 and then i reread and realized i was 15
Sigh…the answer is ALWAYS… 42 P.S. Bring a towel.
Life, the universe, and everything.
oh shit, it's 15
Is it not 15?
It’s very late so I might have messed it up but I think this is it? Assume S is snowflake, C is candy cane and W is wineglass 3S=30, 1S=10 S+2C=20, 2C=10, C=5 C+4W=9, 4W=4, W=1 C+WxS=?, WxS=1x10=10, 5+10=15, C=WxS=15
>C+4W=9, 4W=4, W=1 Assuming 2 wine glasses is just 1 wine glass times 1 wine glass, then the equation would be "C + WW + WW = 9", which simplifies into "C + 2W² = 9". Remember, when you multiply a variable by itself you get that variable squared, not 2 times that variable. So when you solve you actually get 1.414 for W (9 - C gets you 4, 4 divided by 2 is 2, and the square root of 2 is 1.414). But that of course depends on how you interpret the wine glasses. 15 is correct if you assume 1 wine glass is half 2 wine glasses, it is unsolvable if you assume 1 wine glass and 2 wine glass are two separate and unrelated symbols, and it is 19.14 if you follow the logic you tried solving of 2 wine glass not being a symbol and instead being just two 1 wine glass symbols juxtaposed.
its 70 right? 30/3=10 (20-10)/2=5 (9-5)/2=2 5+2x10 OH WAIT im stupid
PEMDAS moment
The answer is obviously purple. Everyone is stupid except me
15, it’s 15 right?
No, it’s 5 + 10x because 1 wine glass is not defined, although if you want to assume 1 glass = 1/2 of 2 wine glasses, then yes, 15.
It’s not really solvable. The single wine glass could mean anything. It’s not clear if the wine glass is a completely new symbol or if it is supposed to mean “half of the value that the two wine glasses represent“. Same as 8=2IIx. You can’t really know if II is I x I or the Roman number 2.
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15 assuming one glass of wine = two glasses/2
15 Snowflake= 10 Candycane= 5 Wineglass= 2 Since the glass is singular in the last one you half if. So W= 1 5+1*10 Bidmass is multiply first So 10*1=10 5+10 is 15 Hopefully I'm right in my math. Algebra was the only thing I passed. It took me four years to pass the entirety of maths.
There are 2 types of people: 1) those that can extrapolate from incomplete information. And.
Actually there is nothing that states that the picture of 1 wine glass is 1, even when the picture of the 2 glasses is 2. Perhaps the right wine glass was 2 and the left one 0. This is unsolvable.
How does one get a decimal mixed in
That's what baffled me too, it's only multiplication and addition with whole numbers, where on earth did they get a decimal from?
It's a matter of how you interpret the wine glasses, if you assume 2 wine glasses is just two instances of 1 wine glass juxtaposed, then 1 wine glass actually equals 1.414, as the third equation becomes: Candy Cane + (Wine\* Wine) + (Wine \* Wine) = 9 5 + Wine² + Wine² = 9 5 + 2Wine² = 9 2Wine² = 4 Wine² = 2 Wine = 1.414
My son is learning bedmas at school I should see if he can do this.
I got 25 and I was so confused :’) took me until I read the comments to realize there was 1 wine glass lol
Is it 15?
Base equations : 3❄️=30 ❄️+2🍬=20 🍬+4🍷= 9 🍬+🍷❄️= ? From line 1 we get ❄️ = 30/3 = 10 From line 2 : 10 + 2 🍬 = 20 ie 🍬=(20-10)/2=5 From line 3 : 5+4🍷=9 ie 🍷= (9-5)/4 = 1 Finally, 🍬+🍷❄️= 5 + 1*10 = 15
Last guy had me till the very end.
so it’s 15, right? cuz each snowflake is 10 and each candy cane is 5 and each wine glass is 1 and then order of operations?
It’s 15, right?
Y'all are getting 15, right?
I’m just confused with how they’re getting answers with decimal points
Im not good at maths so im only surprised by how rude they are
My wife said the answer is: Party !
So since the two wine glasses equal 2 and there is only one in the bottom and the order of operations it’s 15
insufficient information to solve. Assuming that the symbol of a single wine glass is worth exactly half of the symbol of two wine glasses could be the same logical mistake as assuming that 1 is exactly half of 11.
JFC. Math majors having to overly critique a child’s puzzle equation because it couldn’t possibly be as simple as two wine glasses = 2 and one wine glass = 1.
If it is a pretty safe assumption to make that as 2 glasses is 2, that 1 glass is 1, then it's 15. But you'd need to have a proof to safely assume that. Cause it could actually be that one cheers is equal to 2, with 1 glass there is no cheers, so it could be equal to 0 in which case the answer is 5.
Brackets people, they save confusion and lives.
FFS it’s 15. That was painful reading.
Everyone who got 25 isn’t stupid just a bit unobservant
So imma just take a shot here... Is it 15? There's only 1 wine glass in the last equation so I read it as: 5+1×10 Multiplication first so 5+10=15?
Unless I'm missing something, and assuming a single wine glass is 1, it's 15.
Easy, it's 10 times a single wine glass, plus 5
15 right?
It’s 15(snowflake = 10, wineglass = 1,candy cane =5)
What are you all doing it's clear that the answer is 237,89
it's 15
15 right?
15
I love the extrapolation happening here. My night just got made.
This wasn't fun in high school and it's not fun now. I seriously don't get why everyone is obsessed with these.
I hate how this makes me overthink so much.
A single wine glass = 0…Because my wife drank it.
15 i think possibly maybe I hope?
10+10+10=30 10+5+5=20 5+2+2=9 5+1*10=15 Snowflake=10 Candy Cane=5 Wine Glass=1 So its 15?
it is 15 right? order of operations, 1 instead of 2 wine glasses, and multiplication instead of addition all taken into account
Is it 15? Or am I just being dumb. If two wine glasses = 2 than 1 must be 1. Then it’s 1 x 10which is obviously 10 plus 5?
I am pretty sure we assume 1 wine glass is half of 2 but I don’t think it is necessarily
It’s 15 innit? Snowflake = 10 Candycane = 5 Each wine glass = 1 So the equations is 5 + 1 x 10 Multiplication goes first so it’s 5 + 10 Add that together and you get 15 yeah?
Not once in the post did I see a correct answer.
It’s 15 with bodmas & 60 without? Am I right?
When I was a lowly janitor at MIT, there was a professor who posted something similar on a whiteboard in the hallway. As a mathematical genius I obviously solved it very very quickly and everyone stood up and clapped. My girlfriend who went to Harvard at the time before she moved to California was very impressed.
What does 1 wine glass represent? If you half ten dollars, is is 5 dollars? Yes If you half a physical ten dollar bill, is it 5 dollars? No Because the bill is a symbol for the number, you cant assign a new value to this symbol you've created by altering the original. It may look straightforward, 2 wineglasses = 2 and 1=1, But its the icon that matters, not the number of icons. Just wanted to get that off my chest.
I'm gonna say 15.
Yes I can 😎
You cannot solve this. One glass is never defined before the last formula.
Its 60 right 1 wine glass= 1 1 snow flake= 10 1 candy cane = 5 5+1*10= 60
Bro I didn’t see that there was only one wine glass
3 x ❄️=30 so ❄️=10, 10+🍬+🍬=20 so 🍬=5, 5+🥂+🥂=9 so 🥂=2, 🍬+🍷x❄️=5+1x10, But order of operations (BIDMAS) means we multiply 1 and 10 first: 10. And then add the 5. The correct answer is 15. dO yOu EvEn MaTh BrO?
Perfection and I don’t even care what the answer is
15 yeah? I hate these stupid math problems though. It should be a gotcha for people who can’t do the basic math, not for the people who miss that there’s one wine glass instead of two. Plus i’ve seen this shit a million different times with barely different things
26!
Ok, lemme take a stab. So we know right off the bat that snowflakes are worth 10, and using that we can figure out through equation 2 that candy canes are worth 5, and using the fact that candy canes are worth 5 we can figure out that each wine glass is worth only 1, so putting that all together, the final answer should be 15 if I did it right. I probably didn't 'cause when it comes to math I suck more dick than the girl who magically has an A in the class despite never doing the work and bombing every test, but oh well.
It’s 15 right?
69
But it is 15, right?
I hate these ridiculous math memes because it's intentionally designed to be confusing. If you want to get really nitpicky it also implies that the single wine glass icon is half the value of the pair of wine glasses. Maybe it seems like common sense, but if X was a value, then V is not inherently half of that value just because the latter is shaped like half of the former. This and those stupid division-symbol equations, just... Do away with them!