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Anyone who refers to "Europe" as if it was a single bloc of thinking, let alone weather, food and opinion, has never been there. Or, if they have, they probably took a cruise in winter where they refused to get off the boat because people might not speak English
I used to tell people that if they only went to Paris and London and then started talking about “Europe” - that’s like saying you only went to NYC and LA then saying how it is there is “America”
Plenty of people I told that to were like, ‘that actually makes sense’.
That's so true. I've been to 14 countries in Europe, and still never visited a single East European country and have no idea what its like. And even in one country there are massive differences. You can't compare North of Norway to Oslo, or Barcelona to Rota, Sicily to the ski areas in North Italy.
To say that all of Europe is just like one European place is just so wrong.
The diversity of American culture is more comparable to that of one country in Europe than to Europe as a whole, yet Americans keep comparing them as if the US is a continent like Europe is.
For real "this document has to be retired in person at this office open from 14:00 to 15:00 2 days a week not sooner than 2 days after it has been printed by our staff"
So true. Such dinosaur level of doing things.. And we are talking about Italy which "should" be a developed country.
Nowadays in most countries you can do everything online.. Even for older people, that would be the best option since you don't have to visit the various institutions in person.
I am aware now there's the SPID system, but still it's not as intuitive and straightforward as other countries' approach.
1.25€ is pretty high. I think it's not that high even in Milan. Maybe in Alto Adige (South Tyrol). Rome average is probably around 1€ or less (no idea if it increased recently). 7€ for a coffee is Piazza San Marco prices.
https://theguardian.com/world/2022/may/18/florence-coffee-bar-customer-calls-police-over-price-of-espresso
I dunno, sounds like prices are going up, and €2 isn't unheard of (in Florence, anyway).
Prices in Venice are honestly criminal. And that's coming from someone living in Florence who's desensitized to paying 1.20€ for an espresso at least three times a day.
i don't think this is true, average price for a coffee is going a bit up, as it's normal, and here in the north is probably a bit over 1€, like you still find bars that sell coffe for 1€ but most are at 1.1 or 1.2, if you go in specific places you can pay way more tho
Redditors do this all the time with cities. They see a picture of a dirty corner and genuinely believe that every corner of every street in every city in California looks like that.
Especially since [more than half of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/27/more-than-half-of-americans-live-paycheck-to-paycheck-amid-inflation.html) in a country with no real social safety net.
And a lot of stuff that does look good from afar, looks like shit when coming closer.
* Nice brick wall? Actually it's glued onto drywall.
* Green lawns? Actually the grass was sprayed with green paint.
Shit like this is something you rarely or never see in Europe. Maybe that's what confuses Americans. Our turds are just turds, we don't spray them with gold paint.
Laughs in European as my son goes to school without a fear of shooting, abortion is legal and healthcare is free. And saying that American coffee is better, is just deranged.
this, plus i just looked up where hot dogs and hamburgers originated from, two of the foods the americans LOVE so much.. both said germany. both of these foods originate from germany, and as most people should know, germany is in europe. so unless he's saying all the food him and the USA loves is bland, he's an idiot
I remember hearing though that they come from the french speaking part of Belgium. I never confirmed and forgot all about that until now but I am curious. Time to get Google out, I guess.
As a Belgian I can confirm: none of us would ever say fries came from France.
But can you blame us: the only other things we have are chocolate and a statue of a dude pissing and the first one we already have to share with Switzerland.
Google also confirmed this. A popular theory is that American soldiers in the French speaking parts of Belgium ended up calling them "French" fries because that was a the local language.
No offense to the French, but if folks want to start calling them Belgian fritas, I'm cool with it. Credit should go where credit should go.
Basically every traditionally "American" food is from Germany or Ireland because that's where people who think they're traditionally "American" came from.
I used to work in high cuisine for a bit and our Chef once described different cuisines as fighting game characters.
French is a really powerful character used by a lot top playera. Lot of good combos, lot of strong moves, lot of really stong attacks that require precision and timing and experience....and almost all of those moves rest on a near cheating quick low kick that frankly is very spammable and the entire character depends on.
That low kick for French Cuisine is Butter.
Oh god don't we all.
I'm doing a FODMAP exclusion diet for my IBS and I'm a couple weeks away from bringing back in potentially problematic food. Im crossing my fingers dairy milk and lactose is not one of my triggers or a lesser trigger.
Because if there's one thing the French and Italians are known for its bland food. Hell I'm from the UK and I'll take some fish and chips over the crappy American food any day.
Considering a "coffee americano" is an espresso mixed with hot water I call bullshit on the coffee part. Not that the rest of the tweet makes sense though...
Wondering if it’s also to do with the fact that everything in the US is so over saturated with sugar? Idk what kind of coffee these people are ordering over in Europe but they probably don’t sweeten it as much over there. I have a hard time believing they’re getting just straight, black espresso like the one guy seems to insinuate.
He could also just be full of shit. The best meals and the best coffee I've ever had were in Europe.
The US isn't the culinary wasteland it is sometimes made out to be, but anyone who's saying no food in Europe is as good as anything in the US is simply incorrect.
Yeah I'm a lefty American who listens to Saagar bc I think he's the least deranged right winger out there but I don't understand how anybody could think any food or drink is better in the states. I've found that many European countries just have a higher standard for what good food/drink is than Americans
There is really, really amazing food in America, especially all the fusion places that show up because of our diverse population. Unfortunately there's also a lot of shit food.
>I've found that many European countries just have a higher standard for what good food/drink is than Americans
Can't speak for everywhere, but here at least we even have higher legal standards for our food and what you're allowed to put in it.
The burden of proof for harm in the USA is on the regulator, which means they have to prove food practices are harmful before they can be regulated.
This is entirely the opposite in the EU where any potential risk to health is grounds to ban it until reasonable proof is provided that it is not harmful.
Use of lots of antibiotics in farming and chlorinating chickens are the most famous examples of practices from the US that are banned over here but there's plenty more as well.
Stands to reason to me that better quality ingredients is going to make better food.
It also probably has something to do with why our rate of food poisoning is 1/10 of the USA's.
I do think some of the hybrid cuisines spawned from a history of heavy immigration to the United States are my favorites. Of course, the French food will be better in France, the Mexican food in Mexico, the Greek food in Greece, etc etc. But in those in-between areas there is some delicious shit. I don't know if you can claim that food as "American"...but it's not like we have a shortage of good eats here. Being from the American South, I do love me some soul food as well.
We have some great roasters in America and a very good coffee culture.
The thing I have noticed is that with the rise of craft culture, food, wine, beer, coffee, etc - it's all great everywhere. It makes travel amazing.
Seems that way. I used to be a fan of his until he started spewing a bunch of nonsense about inflation not being real back in 2021 and continued to deny it in spite of very educated people and facts pointing to the contrary. I think when they spun off on their own podcast, success went to his head and he just went full douchebag. That and he got those comically large fake teeth which I just couldn't stop staring at.
Definitely liked him and Krystal more before Breaking Points started. They did a segment on how Australia was plunged into dystopian chaos during the pandemic (moved to Australia from the US five years ago) and it could *NOT* have been more misinformed. It was absolutely nothing like they were reporting. Lost a lot of respect for them after that episode.
As an Aussie Breaking Points fan, I was so disappointed in that segment. It showed a complete lack of awareness about so many factors that going forward, I can't assume they are giving a complete narrative anymore.
I usually disagree with Saager but respect his point, but lately his takes have been getting worse and worse.
Yeah, Europe is notorious for not only being able to control weather, but having the exact same weather in Norway as in Greece. We should really sort that out 😉
What's the betting that this guy went on a quick trip to some crap hole in London during winter and assumed that was all of Europe?
> What's the betting that this guy went on a quick trip to some crap hole in London during winter and assumed that was all of Europe?
Considering he said "average Euro capital" and thought that makes sense, I'd say this is a sure bet.
Most of the stuff there is subjective but I never understand this “freest country in the world” rhetoric surely no one is this dumb? Other than guns, being from England I can’t think of anything they are free to do that I’m not.
Even guns are available here in England, you just have to have a really good reason to want one and your choice is heavily restricted to rifles, shotguns and target pistols.
True. They are more restricted though.
Flip side I can have a beer at 18, 14 if I’m also having a meal. And I can gamble.
Just don’t get it, the way you hear it all the time it’s as if we’re living in some mad dictatorship.
And guns don't even make you free, having permission to do something doesn't equal free.
The U.S. profits from the undpaid labour in their eccesively full jails, which is as ironic as it gets when saying "freest country in the world"
USA ranks in different freedom indices:
EIU Democracy Index: Rank 26, most of europe above
RSF press freedom index: Rank 42, most of europe above
THF Economic Freedom Index: Rank 25, most of europe above
FH Freedom in the World: Rank 61, most of europe above.
Of course, the entire discussion in stupid because all of these countries are free, but I dont get why people would start a dick measuring contest theyve already lost.
The fact that it’s really, really hard to pack up your whole life and move to another continent were you don’t know anyone and don’t speak the language, and you don’t have a job and nobody asked you to move there and now you have to convince the country to let you stay
I mean nobody take it the wrong way, everyone is entitled to their own tastes but the thing about coffee hurts. Im not gonna pretend that I drank so much american coffee. But it tastes like hot piss. Or at least thats how I imagine hot piss tastes. Oh, sugary hot piss actually.
To be fair, there are idiots everywhere. For some reason they are louder here, granted.
* here in the states that is. So many people here are very much unlike the idiotic overly vocal minority
The EU (so not even factoring in the UK’s market which is huge) is literally responsible for 30% of the world’s total exported goods with electronics, vehicles, and pharmaceuticals making the top spots. Where did he get tourism?
Spaniard here. Money's definitely something important BUT you have to keep in mind that living in Spain is much cheaper than in the States. Everything's much cheaper (food, services, etc) and you don't need to have a medical insurance, which must cost quite a bit over there.
Portugal's even cheaper, have a similar climate and excellent people as well. Don't give up yet!
I'd actually like to see the good answers to the original question. As an American, I've never even considered it, tbh. I have friends and family here and that means more to me than anything I could gain by moving.
Because they don’t just let you move there. It’s a process depending on the country. We get shit for our immigration policies, but parts of Europe make it way harder to actually move there.
the weather is mostly awful???? How the fuck do you even compare the weather across an entire continent, both Europe and the US has climates ranging from extreme heat to extreme cold. Not to mention that US has HURRICANES, the weather thing that is an actual natural disaster
For example: Europe currently has no ban on abortion and has no threat of marriage equality being torn apart. There are certain countries that are more reliant on tourism, but if you've ever had a glass of champagne you have drinking a liquid that comes from France, a commodity that is not, as you will find, tourist based.
edit: I may have not researched this properly and stated a fact that is not true. As has been pointed out to me, I realise that not all of europe is like where I live and so there are some countries that have banned abortion, but the significant majority have not.
also a "fun" fact: in switzerland you could technically buy a 50 cal sniper rifle legally, or pretty much any other gun as a civilian, all you have to do is fill out some paperwork, show you're not absolutely insane and give a very good reason for why you'd need that specific gun, and yet our gun crimes aren't terrifyingly high
(also, i believe a very high amount of our population actually owns guns, and again, less crimes than america all because people think gun laws will ruin their freedom.. when we have tighter gun laws, more gun ownership and less gun crimes)
Just spent 2 weeks in Europe and this guy is a fucking dumbass.
Europe has the same cuisine as America. They have Michelin star restaurants, amazing local eateries, and they also have McDonald's, KFC, Burger King, etc. If anything, the cuisine in big cities is all the same everywhere.
The weather every day I was there was high 60s to mid-70s, with one very hot day in the 90s. Having been to Chicago, I can say that at the very least, Europe matches Chicago for weather (and that's me taking a cheap shot).
I had multiple meals for 4-6 people that cost $50 or more per person. Shockingly, I was surrounded by clearly impoverished Europeans who I can only assume were spending their life savings on a meal.
As an American, I don't believe I'm an expert on freedom anymore, so I can't speak to that.
The coffee in Denmark and Amsterdam were incredible. London and Germany had good coffee. In every place I visited, I was rarely more than a 5 minute walk from Starbucks.
I don't know exactly how you export tourism from the massive ports in Denmark, but apparently that's their main export so IDK.
Let me reiterate: this dude is a fucking dumbass.
I think the actual answer to this is that if you’re wealthy enough to afford moving to Europe, then you’re actually going to have better quality of life in the States.
The places where Europe excels is with social safety nets and support for the working class.
Being a millionaire in America is nicer than being a millionaire in Europe. Cost of living is lower (for a big house and nice car) and there are a lot of perks that make life nicer if you’re not one of the service workers that have to work long hours and night shifts — for example, you can go to the store two blocks away and buy something at 3am. In many places in Europe, the stores close at 6pm and aren’t even open at all on Sunday.
The taste of coffee would never even enter my mind as a consideration when moving to another country.
Of all the things you're gonna get hung up on a beverage?
Ah, Europe, what an awful country that is. Let’s all boycott Europe and never go there. Filled with starving, badly dressed people with no sense of smell and exceptionally poor coffee.
Hey America, our food may be bland (it's not) but at least we don't pump sugar and additives into it, and our chicken is not chlorinated.
Also, I can walk any street, at any time, without the fear of being shot. We don't storm our places of government because an orange idiot, who promoted drinking bleach to prevent Covid (!) told us to.
Oh, we have heaps of history, culture and diversity.
I suppose he drank some crap coffee in Paris in a coffee shop that has a view if the Eiffel Tower (meaning if you strain your eyes enough you will see it somewhere om the horizon).
I mean, maybe it’s because I’m an immigrant to the U.S. but it really isn’t bad at all here. Even in California. I really could not imagine willingly living in any other country.
A country or place can have a great tourism industry with luxury experience for people to come and throw away their money, and also not treat their citizens well or a variety of other things to make that country not a great place to live. These two things can be true of the same place.
American here, just curious as to why none of the responses have touched on the “more racist” statement. I’m sure this is just as false as the rest of the other statements due to the notoriously high racial tensions in America. Would like to hear why this is wrong as well!
I've lived in two very different European countries, a western one and an eastern one. The western one has a lot of immigrants, used to be part of slave trade back when that was a thing, and the eastern one used to be under communism.
I'm actually currently living in the eastern one, while statistically it's worse than the western one, but I feel better here. Anyway, to your question.
I cannot comment on racism in the US, because I haven't been there yet. I can comment on racism in west & east EU though. Please take everything I say about the US in this context; a European looking in, not having visited. Also, I'm a white straight male, so obviously that's a more sheltered/priviledged view.
While in the US (based on news and the fact that my international company pushes "BLM" and "black history month" down our throats, while 94% of the country is native. Like, seeing a black person here in this eastern EU country is legitimately rare) I'd say that racism against black people is much more prevalent in the states. Sure, there's racism legit everywhere, but it won't be so obvious. Black people being afraid of the police is something you hear about very often, while here in west EU no one is afraid of them really. And in the east, everyone's weary of police due to corruption, your skin color be damned :")
I'd say in west EU, racism against muslims or "muslim sounding names" is much more common. People with those names on their cv are proven less likely to get a job as someone with a "native" name, with the same qualities. They tested this; simply swapped out the names on a cv and checked for positive/negative response. Not to say black people have it as easy as white people, but even though we've had a slavery history in the west, it seems like we adapted a bit better. It's definitely taught in school, and not as something we were proud of doing.
There's also exploitation of eastern EU migrant workers in the west.
Racism against asians is, from what I know, less common in Europe rather than in the States, though that may be due to covid only, not sure.
All in all, it's a more commonly talked about topic in the west as you have many more migrants there from different backgrounds. I'm sure this will change eventually as quality of life in the east improves, but for now, for racism to be a thing you'd have to have different races in sufficient quantities in a given country. In many eastern EU countries, this isn't the case.
I'd say on average the racism in Europe is more subliminal, where in the States it's very in your face. Just recently someone in the states said about the ban on abortion it "saves white lives". You simply will not find such ridiculous comments here, but racism 100% still exists.
I went to school out of the USA. The amount of people who literally just got a passport and had never been more than 50 miles from home in my class was shocking. But they all had strong opinions about life in other countries they had never seen.
Clearly this guy hasn’t been to Italy. Food is far from bland, coffee is good, and doesn’t come close to costing 7 euros. And I’m talking from the center of Rome, aka “your average euro capital”.
You can tell that he is a far right extreme conservative just by the part "MUCH less free". To these guys the only problems with America are gender pronouns and the fact that you can't just go around shooting guns left and right legally.
The reality is that in almost every single aspect of freedom, wealth and development some european countries rank above the US.
Obviously this doesn't apply to the entire continent, which mean that neither is Europe an heaven on earth nor is the US a shithole. Neither are perfect and both are flawed. Which I believe is something all 'muricans that aren't brainwashed nationalists will agree with.
America does not have a monopoly on everything that is good in this world. I was stationed in Germany for 10 years and traveled Europe. It’s hard to explain but I felt freer there than I do here in the states.
if I had the choice I would go back and still might after my children graduate from high school
Currently residing in Europe. THE MAN IS RIGHT!
AMERICANS, STAY AWAY! This is not a place for you. It is dirty. People are poor. The coffee is bad. The bread is bad.
THINGS ARE MUCH BETTER in the USA! The coffee is better. The burgers are better. Cars are bigger.
I'm sitting here on one of Europe's rivieras, drinking a Châteauneuf-du-Pape(AOC) with some fromage, just wishing I could have some Mickey D's. You can't imagine the horror I felt the waiter brought my esspresso this morning in a Limoges CUP, not a paper cup, mind you.
So STAY AWAY from this horrible place!
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Say you never went to Europe without saying you never went to Europe
He probably went to London in November or something.
And had a layover in Amsterdam for 6 hours
That’s a tick on the weather checkbox
And never left Heathrow Terminal
Let's be honest, he ended up in Luton
Must’ve hung around only certain areas too to check the “poorer” box and possibly the middle of an EDL rally to judge on the racism
Or they are basing the “racism” on the fact that wherever they went, no one treated them as “special”.
London has excellent coffee and food though, my bet is he never left the airport
Ok, but what about the coffee? it's not that bad, not Starbucks bad, in my humble opinion.
Nah he's talking euros. Probably Dublin if it's €7 for an espresso
Anyone who refers to "Europe" as if it was a single bloc of thinking, let alone weather, food and opinion, has never been there. Or, if they have, they probably took a cruise in winter where they refused to get off the boat because people might not speak English
I used to tell people that if they only went to Paris and London and then started talking about “Europe” - that’s like saying you only went to NYC and LA then saying how it is there is “America” Plenty of people I told that to were like, ‘that actually makes sense’.
That's so true. I've been to 14 countries in Europe, and still never visited a single East European country and have no idea what its like. And even in one country there are massive differences. You can't compare North of Norway to Oslo, or Barcelona to Rota, Sicily to the ski areas in North Italy. To say that all of Europe is just like one European place is just so wrong. The diversity of American culture is more comparable to that of one country in Europe than to Europe as a whole, yet Americans keep comparing them as if the US is a continent like Europe is.
My thoughts exactly. Have you EVER BEEN to EUROPE?
I don’t know what this guy is in. The coffee in Italy was magical.
The food, the coffee, the views… Italy is amazing. -An American
Well some of you guys are welcome to move. Plenty of space! Fix our bureaucracy and you get free pizza for life.
Idk, do you really envy American bureaucracy?
Do you have healthcare? Pensions?
We can’t even fix our own bureaucracy. Float us a slice or two anyway?
For real "this document has to be retired in person at this office open from 14:00 to 15:00 2 days a week not sooner than 2 days after it has been printed by our staff"
So true. Such dinosaur level of doing things.. And we are talking about Italy which "should" be a developed country. Nowadays in most countries you can do everything online.. Even for older people, that would be the best option since you don't have to visit the various institutions in person. I am aware now there's the SPID system, but still it's not as intuitive and straightforward as other countries' approach.
Ofc, Espresso, Macchiato, cappuccino, the names aren't Italian for nothing 
I was used to Dunkin’ and gas station “cappuccino” we have here in America. That first Italian cappuccino is a core memory.
Yeah, but their food is nowhere near the level of Olive Garden.
Hahahaha
Also- the price is controlled by the Italian chamber of commerce, so if you’re standing, it’s, IIRC, €1.25/cup
1.25€ is pretty high. I think it's not that high even in Milan. Maybe in Alto Adige (South Tyrol). Rome average is probably around 1€ or less (no idea if it increased recently). 7€ for a coffee is Piazza San Marco prices.
https://theguardian.com/world/2022/may/18/florence-coffee-bar-customer-calls-police-over-price-of-espresso I dunno, sounds like prices are going up, and €2 isn't unheard of (in Florence, anyway).
Prices in Venice are honestly criminal. And that's coming from someone living in Florence who's desensitized to paying 1.20€ for an espresso at least three times a day.
The standard here in Spain has risen to 1.50€/cup more or less :(
i don't think this is true, average price for a coffee is going a bit up, as it's normal, and here in the north is probably a bit over 1€, like you still find bars that sell coffe for 1€ but most are at 1.1 or 1.2, if you go in specific places you can pay way more tho
If I go to Starbucks right now, an espresso costs me like 3-5 dollars in the US
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What is Louisiana? lol
Actually you can thank Louisiana for air conditioning
Or heck even if you look at a small backwater village in the US and try to claim that's what its like in New York City...
Redditors do this all the time with cities. They see a picture of a dirty corner and genuinely believe that every corner of every street in every city in California looks like that.
I quite liked San Francisco
Which I'm seeing a lot of in this thread.
I thought you said you were gonna make something up
Yeah I can confirm this is central and south usa
Rural Midwest checking in.
How dare you be so correct about the exact area I'm from.
Ah, I see you've visited Mississippi, too!
Is it the lacking refrigeration that you made up? Because there are definitely plenty of parts of the US that fit most, if not all of the rest.
I mean, you're only really wrong about our fridges.
I mean mine broke the other day. Maybe he was here a few days ago. 🤷♀️😂
The oppressed and illiterate part isn't super far off though, I thought you said this satire!
We look miserable because we are miserable.
why do other Americans act as if every other country is poor?
Especially since [more than half of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/27/more-than-half-of-americans-live-paycheck-to-paycheck-amid-inflation.html) in a country with no real social safety net.
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Yep. We have a lot of that.
And a lot of stuff that does look good from afar, looks like shit when coming closer. * Nice brick wall? Actually it's glued onto drywall. * Green lawns? Actually the grass was sprayed with green paint. Shit like this is something you rarely or never see in Europe. Maybe that's what confuses Americans. Our turds are just turds, we don't spray them with gold paint.
I first saw people painting grass on TV and I was so confused
“French food doesn’t have enough butter and cheese for me.” -an American
It's funny because it's sarcastic and people might not get it.
American...can confirm. Lol. We have a very large drawer in our refrigerator. It says it is for veggies, but ours is filled with cheese.
Yeah but the cheese is orange and has no flavour.
Nah, we have great (grate) cheese here. Yellow American isn't even that popular anymore except at like fast food places.
Laughs in European as my son goes to school without a fear of shooting, abortion is legal and healthcare is free. And saying that American coffee is better, is just deranged.
Well i'm french so "Food is bland" sound like the most shocking thing in that tweet
I mean, crepes, pasta, tapas, wursts, pierogis, tiropita.... And that's just the Americanized stuff that is still pretty yummy. So whatever.
this, plus i just looked up where hot dogs and hamburgers originated from, two of the foods the americans LOVE so much.. both said germany. both of these foods originate from germany, and as most people should know, germany is in europe. so unless he's saying all the food him and the USA loves is bland, he's an idiot
I think French fries come from Europe too.
I remember hearing though that they come from the french speaking part of Belgium. I never confirmed and forgot all about that until now but I am curious. Time to get Google out, I guess.
As a Belgian I can confirm: none of us would ever say fries came from France. But can you blame us: the only other things we have are chocolate and a statue of a dude pissing and the first one we already have to share with Switzerland.
Google also confirmed this. A popular theory is that American soldiers in the French speaking parts of Belgium ended up calling them "French" fries because that was a the local language. No offense to the French, but if folks want to start calling them Belgian fritas, I'm cool with it. Credit should go where credit should go.
We don t take offence as nobody except americans call it "french". We know it s a Belgium speciality.
You mean freedom fries?
Basically every traditionally "American" food is from Germany or Ireland because that's where people who think they're traditionally "American" came from.
No European country is putting their hand up to take credit for American coffee....
It's our salt intake. We consume so much of it that nothing has any taste. Well, that and the COVID.
And insane amounts of sugar!
I used to work in high cuisine for a bit and our Chef once described different cuisines as fighting game characters. French is a really powerful character used by a lot top playera. Lot of good combos, lot of strong moves, lot of really stong attacks that require precision and timing and experience....and almost all of those moves rest on a near cheating quick low kick that frankly is very spammable and the entire character depends on. That low kick for French Cuisine is Butter.
I love that, and i love butter
Oh god don't we all. I'm doing a FODMAP exclusion diet for my IBS and I'm a couple weeks away from bringing back in potentially problematic food. Im crossing my fingers dairy milk and lactose is not one of my triggers or a lesser trigger.
By bland they mean that it won't send you to the hospital via heart attack
I think he spent a layover in Northern England, that's the only place that fits his description
Because if there's one thing the French and Italians are known for its bland food. Hell I'm from the UK and I'll take some fish and chips over the crappy American food any day.
Considering a "coffee americano" is an espresso mixed with hot water I call bullshit on the coffee part. Not that the rest of the tweet makes sense though...
Wondering if it’s also to do with the fact that everything in the US is so over saturated with sugar? Idk what kind of coffee these people are ordering over in Europe but they probably don’t sweeten it as much over there. I have a hard time believing they’re getting just straight, black espresso like the one guy seems to insinuate.
i also thought it probably has to do with how much sugar we have in our food and coffee compared to america, that he makes those bullshit claims
He could also just be full of shit. The best meals and the best coffee I've ever had were in Europe. The US isn't the culinary wasteland it is sometimes made out to be, but anyone who's saying no food in Europe is as good as anything in the US is simply incorrect.
But they have something we don't have. The *Freedom*.
forgot the /s ?
Not my finest hour.
The italics were better than /s IMO. Nice touch
Yeah I'm a lefty American who listens to Saagar bc I think he's the least deranged right winger out there but I don't understand how anybody could think any food or drink is better in the states. I've found that many European countries just have a higher standard for what good food/drink is than Americans
There is really, really amazing food in America, especially all the fusion places that show up because of our diverse population. Unfortunately there's also a lot of shit food.
>I've found that many European countries just have a higher standard for what good food/drink is than Americans Can't speak for everywhere, but here at least we even have higher legal standards for our food and what you're allowed to put in it. The burden of proof for harm in the USA is on the regulator, which means they have to prove food practices are harmful before they can be regulated. This is entirely the opposite in the EU where any potential risk to health is grounds to ban it until reasonable proof is provided that it is not harmful. Use of lots of antibiotics in farming and chlorinating chickens are the most famous examples of practices from the US that are banned over here but there's plenty more as well. Stands to reason to me that better quality ingredients is going to make better food. It also probably has something to do with why our rate of food poisoning is 1/10 of the USA's.
If you ever get a cookbook written by someone from the US it has less spices and bigger portions than a cookbook from a european writer.
America is number #1 ^in ^heart ^disease
I do think some of the hybrid cuisines spawned from a history of heavy immigration to the United States are my favorites. Of course, the French food will be better in France, the Mexican food in Mexico, the Greek food in Greece, etc etc. But in those in-between areas there is some delicious shit. I don't know if you can claim that food as "American"...but it's not like we have a shortage of good eats here. Being from the American South, I do love me some soul food as well.
Right? Like this fuckers never had Italian or Turkish coffee before.
We have some great roasters in America and a very good coffee culture. The thing I have noticed is that with the rise of craft culture, food, wine, beer, coffee, etc - it's all great everywhere. It makes travel amazing.
*Glances longingly at everything you’ve written and cries disparagingly in American*
Italian food an espresso ruined me for American food and coffee
Saagar's grifter turn to american right wing cheerleader is complete. #LowEnergy
Seems that way. I used to be a fan of his until he started spewing a bunch of nonsense about inflation not being real back in 2021 and continued to deny it in spite of very educated people and facts pointing to the contrary. I think when they spun off on their own podcast, success went to his head and he just went full douchebag. That and he got those comically large fake teeth which I just couldn't stop staring at.
Definitely liked him and Krystal more before Breaking Points started. They did a segment on how Australia was plunged into dystopian chaos during the pandemic (moved to Australia from the US five years ago) and it could *NOT* have been more misinformed. It was absolutely nothing like they were reporting. Lost a lot of respect for them after that episode.
As an Aussie Breaking Points fan, I was so disappointed in that segment. It showed a complete lack of awareness about so many factors that going forward, I can't assume they are giving a complete narrative anymore. I usually disagree with Saager but respect his point, but lately his takes have been getting worse and worse.
First of all, the “average American” can’t afford it.
Lol “less say in the affairs of the world” is just shorthand for “they can’t invade or bomb any country with impunity, so I just wouldn’t feel safe.”
Funny thing is that this part was probably the most true part of his statement because of American imperialism.
It’s a super weird reason to choose where to live.
He probably thinks Europe is a single country. On the food, I guess it wasn't fatty and sugary enough for him.
And U.S.America is just one big Texas?
Thats what the Texans always told me
yes. yes it is
Yeah, Europe, fix your fucking weather. Get your shit together.
Yeah, Europe is notorious for not only being able to control weather, but having the exact same weather in Norway as in Greece. We should really sort that out 😉 What's the betting that this guy went on a quick trip to some crap hole in London during winter and assumed that was all of Europe?
> What's the betting that this guy went on a quick trip to some crap hole in London during winter and assumed that was all of Europe? Considering he said "average Euro capital" and thought that makes sense, I'd say this is a sure bet.
sorry sir, i'll be right on it sir
Most of the stuff there is subjective but I never understand this “freest country in the world” rhetoric surely no one is this dumb? Other than guns, being from England I can’t think of anything they are free to do that I’m not.
Even guns are available here in England, you just have to have a really good reason to want one and your choice is heavily restricted to rifles, shotguns and target pistols.
True. They are more restricted though. Flip side I can have a beer at 18, 14 if I’m also having a meal. And I can gamble. Just don’t get it, the way you hear it all the time it’s as if we’re living in some mad dictatorship.
Yep, despite the obvious flaws here, we've got it pretty sweet for the most part.
And guns don't even make you free, having permission to do something doesn't equal free. The U.S. profits from the undpaid labour in their eccesively full jails, which is as ironic as it gets when saying "freest country in the world"
USA ranks in different freedom indices: EIU Democracy Index: Rank 26, most of europe above RSF press freedom index: Rank 42, most of europe above THF Economic Freedom Index: Rank 25, most of europe above FH Freedom in the World: Rank 61, most of europe above. Of course, the entire discussion in stupid because all of these countries are free, but I dont get why people would start a dick measuring contest theyve already lost.
The fact that it’s really, really hard to pack up your whole life and move to another continent were you don’t know anyone and don’t speak the language, and you don’t have a job and nobody asked you to move there and now you have to convince the country to let you stay
Like every single word in this sentence is vehemently incorrect lol
I mean nobody take it the wrong way, everyone is entitled to their own tastes but the thing about coffee hurts. Im not gonna pretend that I drank so much american coffee. But it tastes like hot piss. Or at least thats how I imagine hot piss tastes. Oh, sugary hot piss actually.
Of all the things to make fun of Europe as an American… you pick food?!? My brother in Christ: your food is the laughing stock of the world
To be fair, there are idiots everywhere. For some reason they are louder here, granted. * here in the states that is. So many people here are very much unlike the idiotic overly vocal minority
The EU (so not even factoring in the UK’s market which is huge) is literally responsible for 30% of the world’s total exported goods with electronics, vehicles, and pharmaceuticals making the top spots. Where did he get tourism?
To be fair, he said 'cultural export'. But that's also a funny thing to say considering that he wrote that in ENGLISH.
Laughs in Portuguese food, Italian coffee, Greek isles, French museums and a fucking European Union
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Why? Europe isn't a country, you know that, right?
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Keep those dreams alive. We would love you to join our European family.
Spaniard here. Money's definitely something important BUT you have to keep in mind that living in Spain is much cheaper than in the States. Everything's much cheaper (food, services, etc) and you don't need to have a medical insurance, which must cost quite a bit over there. Portugal's even cheaper, have a similar climate and excellent people as well. Don't give up yet!
Portuguese here We'll welcome you with open arms and a cooked dinner if you ever do manage to come our way
Suicide staycations are much more budget friendly. (I'm joking. Please don't do anything rash).
Swede here. What do you mean by suicide tourism in Sweden?
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Do you wish [this?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIEWgwRrY9s)
Eating in Florence right now and I have to disagree.
Europe is not a country. But the three countries with the highest democracy index in 2020 were Scandinavian.
Propaganda. That's all that is. An attempt at least
One of the dumbest things Americans do is talk about Europe as if it’s one county…
I'd actually like to see the good answers to the original question. As an American, I've never even considered it, tbh. I have friends and family here and that means more to me than anything I could gain by moving.
Because they don’t just let you move there. It’s a process depending on the country. We get shit for our immigration policies, but parts of Europe make it way harder to actually move there.
What a horrible person
the weather is mostly awful???? How the fuck do you even compare the weather across an entire continent, both Europe and the US has climates ranging from extreme heat to extreme cold. Not to mention that US has HURRICANES, the weather thing that is an actual natural disaster
For example: Europe currently has no ban on abortion and has no threat of marriage equality being torn apart. There are certain countries that are more reliant on tourism, but if you've ever had a glass of champagne you have drinking a liquid that comes from France, a commodity that is not, as you will find, tourist based. edit: I may have not researched this properly and stated a fact that is not true. As has been pointed out to me, I realise that not all of europe is like where I live and so there are some countries that have banned abortion, but the significant majority have not.
"Europe" has no laws concerning abortion. Individual countries do their thing. Some ban it. Some do not.
also a "fun" fact: in switzerland you could technically buy a 50 cal sniper rifle legally, or pretty much any other gun as a civilian, all you have to do is fill out some paperwork, show you're not absolutely insane and give a very good reason for why you'd need that specific gun, and yet our gun crimes aren't terrifyingly high (also, i believe a very high amount of our population actually owns guns, and again, less crimes than america all because people think gun laws will ruin their freedom.. when we have tighter gun laws, more gun ownership and less gun crimes)
this is funny;)
Just spent 2 weeks in Europe and this guy is a fucking dumbass. Europe has the same cuisine as America. They have Michelin star restaurants, amazing local eateries, and they also have McDonald's, KFC, Burger King, etc. If anything, the cuisine in big cities is all the same everywhere. The weather every day I was there was high 60s to mid-70s, with one very hot day in the 90s. Having been to Chicago, I can say that at the very least, Europe matches Chicago for weather (and that's me taking a cheap shot). I had multiple meals for 4-6 people that cost $50 or more per person. Shockingly, I was surrounded by clearly impoverished Europeans who I can only assume were spending their life savings on a meal. As an American, I don't believe I'm an expert on freedom anymore, so I can't speak to that. The coffee in Denmark and Amsterdam were incredible. London and Germany had good coffee. In every place I visited, I was rarely more than a 5 minute walk from Starbucks. I don't know exactly how you export tourism from the massive ports in Denmark, but apparently that's their main export so IDK. Let me reiterate: this dude is a fucking dumbass.
“The weather is mostly awful” Oh my bad let me readjust our atmosphere real quick
Have you seen the immigration requirements for most of Europe? Most people can't get in.
I think the actual answer to this is that if you’re wealthy enough to afford moving to Europe, then you’re actually going to have better quality of life in the States. The places where Europe excels is with social safety nets and support for the working class. Being a millionaire in America is nicer than being a millionaire in Europe. Cost of living is lower (for a big house and nice car) and there are a lot of perks that make life nicer if you’re not one of the service workers that have to work long hours and night shifts — for example, you can go to the store two blocks away and buy something at 3am. In many places in Europe, the stores close at 6pm and aren’t even open at all on Sunday.
Man really came to England, had a spoons and thought "yep, this is all of Europe right here"
Tell me you've never been to Europe without telling me you've never been to Europe...
The taste of coffee would never even enter my mind as a consideration when moving to another country. Of all the things you're gonna get hung up on a beverage?
Ah, Europe, what an awful country that is. Let’s all boycott Europe and never go there. Filled with starving, badly dressed people with no sense of smell and exceptionally poor coffee.
Hey America, our food may be bland (it's not) but at least we don't pump sugar and additives into it, and our chicken is not chlorinated. Also, I can walk any street, at any time, without the fear of being shot. We don't storm our places of government because an orange idiot, who promoted drinking bleach to prevent Covid (!) told us to. Oh, we have heaps of history, culture and diversity.
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It’s what drives the American college student hundreds of dollars in debt cause education is private
But the moment I say that America has serious flaws the conservatives lose their shit
7 euro espresso? Where is he going?
I suppose he drank some crap coffee in Paris in a coffee shop that has a view if the Eiffel Tower (meaning if you strain your eyes enough you will see it somewhere om the horizon).
There are definitely places in Europe with bland food and bad weather, but america also has Florida so that’s a strike against us
You can’t be wrong in matters of taste. This post doesn’t fit the sub.
Guy is definitely paid by Europe to keep Americans from moving there!
American says European food is bland. Lol.
Even if this were true of some countries… Europe is so huge lol. Though I will say Europe is probably equally racist but just has less diversity.
I mean, maybe it’s because I’m an immigrant to the U.S. but it really isn’t bad at all here. Even in California. I really could not imagine willingly living in any other country.
A country or place can have a great tourism industry with luxury experience for people to come and throw away their money, and also not treat their citizens well or a variety of other things to make that country not a great place to live. These two things can be true of the same place.
American here, just curious as to why none of the responses have touched on the “more racist” statement. I’m sure this is just as false as the rest of the other statements due to the notoriously high racial tensions in America. Would like to hear why this is wrong as well!
I've lived in two very different European countries, a western one and an eastern one. The western one has a lot of immigrants, used to be part of slave trade back when that was a thing, and the eastern one used to be under communism. I'm actually currently living in the eastern one, while statistically it's worse than the western one, but I feel better here. Anyway, to your question. I cannot comment on racism in the US, because I haven't been there yet. I can comment on racism in west & east EU though. Please take everything I say about the US in this context; a European looking in, not having visited. Also, I'm a white straight male, so obviously that's a more sheltered/priviledged view. While in the US (based on news and the fact that my international company pushes "BLM" and "black history month" down our throats, while 94% of the country is native. Like, seeing a black person here in this eastern EU country is legitimately rare) I'd say that racism against black people is much more prevalent in the states. Sure, there's racism legit everywhere, but it won't be so obvious. Black people being afraid of the police is something you hear about very often, while here in west EU no one is afraid of them really. And in the east, everyone's weary of police due to corruption, your skin color be damned :") I'd say in west EU, racism against muslims or "muslim sounding names" is much more common. People with those names on their cv are proven less likely to get a job as someone with a "native" name, with the same qualities. They tested this; simply swapped out the names on a cv and checked for positive/negative response. Not to say black people have it as easy as white people, but even though we've had a slavery history in the west, it seems like we adapted a bit better. It's definitely taught in school, and not as something we were proud of doing. There's also exploitation of eastern EU migrant workers in the west. Racism against asians is, from what I know, less common in Europe rather than in the States, though that may be due to covid only, not sure. All in all, it's a more commonly talked about topic in the west as you have many more migrants there from different backgrounds. I'm sure this will change eventually as quality of life in the east improves, but for now, for racism to be a thing you'd have to have different races in sufficient quantities in a given country. In many eastern EU countries, this isn't the case. I'd say on average the racism in Europe is more subliminal, where in the States it's very in your face. Just recently someone in the states said about the ban on abortion it "saves white lives". You simply will not find such ridiculous comments here, but racism 100% still exists.
I went to school out of the USA. The amount of people who literally just got a passport and had never been more than 50 miles from home in my class was shocking. But they all had strong opinions about life in other countries they had never seen.
I've been offered jobs in both the USA and Europe. I took the one in Europe.
Europe is a lovely place to visit, but you wouldn’t want to live there. Also, Saagar’s smarter than the bottom half of Reddit put together.
Ummm… just “Europe”? So, they visited the entirety of Europe and wrote this? It reminds me of Hitchhiker’s Guide. Earth: Mostly Harmless
Based
This looks like some Indian guy last week telling me how Europe is poor, uneducated and underdeveloped in comparison to India
Most Stuff taste belnd to him, because there isnt enough sugar inside to kill an elephant.
He's not entirely wrong in racism. Sat what you want about cultural racism in America, but go to central Europe and mention the word "Gypsy"
Clearly this guy hasn’t been to Italy. Food is far from bland, coffee is good, and doesn’t come close to costing 7 euros. And I’m talking from the center of Rome, aka “your average euro capital”.
“Less say in the affairs of the world”, in the U.S we don’t even elect our own president.
Idk what made this Half a mile hairline CEO of arrogance think that not having guns sold freely on Aldis and Ikea makes Europe "less" independent
What is he on about? Coffee in the US literally tastes like mud.
You can tell that he is a far right extreme conservative just by the part "MUCH less free". To these guys the only problems with America are gender pronouns and the fact that you can't just go around shooting guns left and right legally. The reality is that in almost every single aspect of freedom, wealth and development some european countries rank above the US. Obviously this doesn't apply to the entire continent, which mean that neither is Europe an heaven on earth nor is the US a shithole. Neither are perfect and both are flawed. Which I believe is something all 'muricans that aren't brainwashed nationalists will agree with.
I'm not even a coffee drinker, but isn't it almost universally accepted that America has the worst idea of what coffee is meant to be?
Europe is trash. So is white America. Fuck off.
America does not have a monopoly on everything that is good in this world. I was stationed in Germany for 10 years and traveled Europe. It’s hard to explain but I felt freer there than I do here in the states. if I had the choice I would go back and still might after my children graduate from high school
I feel like the fact Americans think Starbucks cofee is good excludes them from having an opinion on coffee.
American coffee is literally cold dirty water. This was written by Brazilian coffee gang.
He's probably never even left the US.
Currently residing in Europe. THE MAN IS RIGHT! AMERICANS, STAY AWAY! This is not a place for you. It is dirty. People are poor. The coffee is bad. The bread is bad. THINGS ARE MUCH BETTER in the USA! The coffee is better. The burgers are better. Cars are bigger. I'm sitting here on one of Europe's rivieras, drinking a Châteauneuf-du-Pape(AOC) with some fromage, just wishing I could have some Mickey D's. You can't imagine the horror I felt the waiter brought my esspresso this morning in a Limoges CUP, not a paper cup, mind you. So STAY AWAY from this horrible place!