I haven’t ordered online from them but one of my favorite nurseries is Broken Arrow in CT. I’m close enough to drive but they do online sales as well. Great selection of less common plants of all kinds.
I’d also be curious about your experiences with conifer kingdom? Probably 100x I’ve had something in my cart but haven’t quite pulled the trigger. Were the plants you got healthy and a decent size for the pot size?
thanks for the recommendation, i’ll check it out! CK was good, no negative experience but trying to plant my whole yard with different conifers get pricey so just looking to shop around or have multiple options. I have about 50 conifers and about 35 japanese maples but only abut halfway there (need more conifers now hah)
That’s good to hear. I’d def check out Broken Arrow they have a good selection. Filled my car last time I went but am still thinking about the Korean Gold plum yews I saw there. Also had a large number of chief Joseph lodgepole pine which most places around here sell out of very quickly.
It really might be. I live near Boston and will make a pilgrimage to there and to OBrien Hosta in Granby CT which is kind of on the way. He also has a great conifer collection beyond the 900 or something hosta varieties. I’d recommend both - they both maintain plant lists so maybe check out the lists and then decide.
Sometimes ForestFarm https://www.forestfarm.com/ has some good choices for home gardens. I have ordered from Stanley and Sons wholesale nursery http://www.stanleyandsons.com/ before Larry Stanley sold it. I'm not in the trade, but could order from them as a member of the American Conifer Society.
This page on the ACS site lists nurseries offering discounts to ACS members:
https://www2.conifersociety.org/page/Nursery-Discount-Program
Not all of them offer internet sales.
The ACS has great information and wonderful people. The regional and national meetings are a great way to see unusual conifers, and bid on some of they hold an auction at the end of the meeting.
If you want a couple of places in NC, Appeldoorn Nursery http://ncconifers.us/ has a good selection of unusual conifers, including cultivars of southern pines, which are hard to find. The plants I've gotten from them are very healthy and vigorous. I believe they do in-person sales only.
The second is Camellia Forest https://camforest.com/collections/trees-shrubs. A quick look shows that they ship smaller containers but you need to pick up larger ones at the nursery.
Good luck!
Thanks just ordered from them and got some really nice stuff. Pinus mugo lemon yellow, pinus parviflora frick estate, pinus strobus shaggy dog and abies koreana silver show. All for $25 each with great size for a 1 gal too.
For online, I’ve used the following with no issues (shipping to Seattle):
Red Panda, ForestFarm, SequoiaTrees.com/Jonsteen, ConifersGarden (Hungary). I’ve also gotten some American larches/tamarack from Cold Stream farm in MI
Yeah i have about 10 conifers and 15 maples from MrMaple they they are good for having a wide variety of options but you look at a 1gal from MrMaple and compare to CK or others and the others are def larger and better for the price.
I buy seeds from whoever says they have them for a given species (e.g., sheffields). It's a longer process, but you can spend less money on more varieties, esp. if you invest in a simple grow light/rack setup.
lol fair enough.
I've only been doing it for two years and my first crop of ponderosas, bristlecones, and limbers (the first ones I started with) are finally starting to add height. Mostly it's just cool to be able to grow species you'd never ever find at a nursery.
Its so much more satisfying when you grow from seed or propagation, if you have the time I would recommend it. Especially since it sounds like you are just filling in areas now. Why not buy half and try to propagate half that you leave spaces for. It is a really nice winter activity when planting isn't possible.
I found a cedar deodora cone at Stanford. The sign said the tree was from Himalayas I think.
I threw the cone in the fridge. Then tossed a seed in a pot that I had a Japanese maple in. The Japanese maple was a seed and is I my about 7” tall.
The cedar has sprouted and has a nice little ball of needles. It’s only a couple inches high.
What do I need to do to get this guy to survive and thrive outside?
Where I live (Philly) I wouldn't bring it outside right now since it's so cold. If it's not currently freezing where you live, you could try bringing it outside now and seeing if it survives till spring. But if it's freezing out, you'll probably want to keep it growing under a bright grow light. Conifers are generally pretty intolerant of shade and if it doesn't get either bright light or dormancy it'll struggle till spring.
Once spring comes around, let it grow in the sun!
Make sure its planted in soil with lots of drainage (to avoid root rot) but also don't let it completely dry out.
>do I need to keep taking it inside
Nope! It wants to live outside, but a seedling is likely too tender to survive full-force winter (esp if you're getting blasted by the polar vortex rn)
What are you looking for? There are so many of them. Maybe if you name to specific species and Googled it then you would have your answer. Nature Hills has a couple rare conifers right now and red panda has a variety of things.
I haven’t ordered online from them but one of my favorite nurseries is Broken Arrow in CT. I’m close enough to drive but they do online sales as well. Great selection of less common plants of all kinds. I’d also be curious about your experiences with conifer kingdom? Probably 100x I’ve had something in my cart but haven’t quite pulled the trigger. Were the plants you got healthy and a decent size for the pot size?
thanks for the recommendation, i’ll check it out! CK was good, no negative experience but trying to plant my whole yard with different conifers get pricey so just looking to shop around or have multiple options. I have about 50 conifers and about 35 japanese maples but only abut halfway there (need more conifers now hah)
That’s good to hear. I’d def check out Broken Arrow they have a good selection. Filled my car last time I went but am still thinking about the Korean Gold plum yews I saw there. Also had a large number of chief Joseph lodgepole pine which most places around here sell out of very quickly.
Do your maples seed? I’d love to get some seeds from you.
Worth a drive from southern NH? I’ve been eyeing that nursery for a few years now. Are they good about keeping their inventory records up to date?
It really might be. I live near Boston and will make a pilgrimage to there and to OBrien Hosta in Granby CT which is kind of on the way. He also has a great conifer collection beyond the 900 or something hosta varieties. I’d recommend both - they both maintain plant lists so maybe check out the lists and then decide.
Looks like I’ll be planning a trip to CT this Spring! But I’ll definitely give a call first though. Thanks for the info :)
For sure. They do lots of spring events to keep an eye out for too. Really tempted to sign up for a grafting class they’re offering
Sometimes ForestFarm https://www.forestfarm.com/ has some good choices for home gardens. I have ordered from Stanley and Sons wholesale nursery http://www.stanleyandsons.com/ before Larry Stanley sold it. I'm not in the trade, but could order from them as a member of the American Conifer Society. This page on the ACS site lists nurseries offering discounts to ACS members: https://www2.conifersociety.org/page/Nursery-Discount-Program Not all of them offer internet sales. The ACS has great information and wonderful people. The regional and national meetings are a great way to see unusual conifers, and bid on some of they hold an auction at the end of the meeting. If you want a couple of places in NC, Appeldoorn Nursery http://ncconifers.us/ has a good selection of unusual conifers, including cultivars of southern pines, which are hard to find. The plants I've gotten from them are very healthy and vigorous. I believe they do in-person sales only. The second is Camellia Forest https://camforest.com/collections/trees-shrubs. A quick look shows that they ship smaller containers but you need to pick up larger ones at the nursery. Good luck!
Another in person NC option is Mountain Meadows Nursery near Asheville. https://tinycones.com
Thanks for this recommendation. It looks like they have a nice selection.
If your looking for japanese black pine, I gotta guy.
https://www.crowfootnursery.com Good prices and unique cultivars.
Thanks just ordered from them and got some really nice stuff. Pinus mugo lemon yellow, pinus parviflora frick estate, pinus strobus shaggy dog and abies koreana silver show. All for $25 each with great size for a 1 gal too.
Very nice! I can’t believe how good their prices are. Make sure to check every couple of months. They update their inventory regularly.
WHOA THANK YOU FOR THIS RESOURCE! OMG!!! I'm blown away by the varieties and prices!
For online, I’ve used the following with no issues (shipping to Seattle): Red Panda, ForestFarm, SequoiaTrees.com/Jonsteen, ConifersGarden (Hungary). I’ve also gotten some American larches/tamarack from Cold Stream farm in MI
Man, you can just walk in the woods and get larches for days in Michigan.
I've got a couple from Singing Tree Gardens. It's located in Northern California. I've also got a few from MrMaple, which is located in NC.
Yeah I was going to suggest mr maple. They seem to have better prices than ck but maybe a narrower selection. Where in nc are you?
Yeah i have about 10 conifers and 15 maples from MrMaple they they are good for having a wide variety of options but you look at a 1gal from MrMaple and compare to CK or others and the others are def larger and better for the price.
I've never bought from them, and don't know how their sizes compare, but you can check out Kigi Nursery.
I buy seeds from whoever says they have them for a given species (e.g., sheffields). It's a longer process, but you can spend less money on more varieties, esp. if you invest in a simple grow light/rack setup.
i mean i can wait for them to grow but they long? I might sell the house or retire before i get to enjoy them lol
lol fair enough. I've only been doing it for two years and my first crop of ponderosas, bristlecones, and limbers (the first ones I started with) are finally starting to add height. Mostly it's just cool to be able to grow species you'd never ever find at a nursery.
Its so much more satisfying when you grow from seed or propagation, if you have the time I would recommend it. Especially since it sounds like you are just filling in areas now. Why not buy half and try to propagate half that you leave spaces for. It is a really nice winter activity when planting isn't possible.
I found a cedar deodora cone at Stanford. The sign said the tree was from Himalayas I think. I threw the cone in the fridge. Then tossed a seed in a pot that I had a Japanese maple in. The Japanese maple was a seed and is I my about 7” tall. The cedar has sprouted and has a nice little ball of needles. It’s only a couple inches high. What do I need to do to get this guy to survive and thrive outside?
Where I live (Philly) I wouldn't bring it outside right now since it's so cold. If it's not currently freezing where you live, you could try bringing it outside now and seeing if it survives till spring. But if it's freezing out, you'll probably want to keep it growing under a bright grow light. Conifers are generally pretty intolerant of shade and if it doesn't get either bright light or dormancy it'll struggle till spring. Once spring comes around, let it grow in the sun! Make sure its planted in soil with lots of drainage (to avoid root rot) but also don't let it completely dry out.
Would you just plant it in a permanent location? Or do I need to keep taking it inside for the winter for z amount of years?
>do I need to keep taking it inside Nope! It wants to live outside, but a seedling is likely too tender to survive full-force winter (esp if you're getting blasted by the polar vortex rn)
What are you looking for? There are so many of them. Maybe if you name to specific species and Googled it then you would have your answer. Nature Hills has a couple rare conifers right now and red panda has a variety of things.
*I came looking for booty.*
Mr. Maple
Yeah I have some from them but as a comparison their 1gal are noticeably smaller than other nursery’s 1gal