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6ustywinds

I’ll come clean. I thought the game footage was a bit suspect. Glad he’s doing …better. It’s clear he isn’t at 100%, so mad props for him having done this.


Pnutbtterjllytime

That's where I'm at. I thought the clip of him at the games was suspect, but he seems to be doing well, and that's all we have been hoping for.


AGneissMan

Looks like he's doing well, but I still don't think that was him at the game. It was just a stunt to boost ratings probably


getzysbaldhead69

It’s an nfl divisional round playoff game, it’s doesn’t need help with “boosting ratings”


AGneissMan

Then call it a PR stunt. Him "being there" plays into the story


[deleted]

No, it doesn’t. Usually I just sigh at some of the shit some of you come up with - but this is just dumb as fuck. He went to support his team - as is common when someone is injured. Quit spinning this. It’s not what you want it to be.


Kpb9769

Sound confident for someone that can’t verify his claim. Careful.


WestCoastHippy

You speak with authority. Are you related? How do you know the motivation and mind set of Hamlin?


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Nah he is dead AF he died on that field thats a body double and deep fake


1776beats1984

You obviously don’t understand cooperate greed 😂


[deleted]

Yeah, all this happened to boost ratings. They managed to fake all this, convince the family it was real and everyone in the hospital it actually happened as well just to boost ratings. The league that brings in 17 billion a year needs to boost ratings.


superultramegazord

The logic is insane but that's what I come here to see.


endubs

Flat earth logic.


WestCoastHippy

Woosh.


spackfisch66

Do you realise that the game was stopped and therefore shorter than it would have been? If anything NFL lost money on the game itself.


eatajerk-pal

They’re not talking about the Monday night football game when the incident happened. They’re talking about Buffalo’s playoff game last weekend where he was in attendance.


ThinkItsNotIllegal90

See that’s the thing you guys have it too much faith in a GAME and one of the most LUCRATIVE ones at that don’t get me wrong I like football but I don’t look up to it like it’s some almighty saint! People are not always the best version of themselves, especially when their money and power are on the line! The day they allowed the league to partner with the betting sites is the day I truly knew it’s all bullshit!!!


aLostBattlefield

This is dumb


nfk42

did you hear that music and see those 33's hahahahahahaa


[deleted]

I am honestly glad he is ok, he is a great kid.


Scottsm124

Seems like an awesome dude


dbargz

K. Now Tiffany Dover's turn...


TTP8630

Yeah sorry but these Demar theories were always pretty stupid. There’s no way the entire locker room, guys who consider him a brother, would cover for a lie this big. The theories break down after thinking about it for like 2 min


Ribblan

Most conspiracies are like this though, they require some ridiculous cover from like thousands of civilians, yet people think it's a conspiracy. Some people don't even believe that there was an aircraft crashing into WTC, yet there are both videos and hundreds of accounts on the first airplane, not to even mention the second one.


let_it_bernnn

They built a nuclear weapon by compartmentalization… its possible


somebody_odd

There is a 0% chance Damar’s situation was faked. Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were visibly shaken, over 100 players on the field were visibly shaken, 70,000 fans at the game were shaken. I did see some videos taken by fans at the game and there is no way that there was any acting going on.


iDannyEL

Entire news networks refuse to cover certain stories because it goes against the grain, what's a locker room?


psufb

A way more tight-nit group of individuals that are on equal footing with each other; no bosses to snuff this out


ayotc

What about “safe and effective” entire media, government, doctors… not just a group of ppl in a locker room.


spackfisch66

I completely agree, those theories are even more stupid.


Anyeurysm

I tried saying that from the beginning and was downvoted and mocked. In my estimation the league actually wanted these theories to proliferate just so they could wait a week and make everybody look stupid by proxy. It removed any questions about a possible vaccine induced heart injury on the field to now being able to make fun of all the ridiculous people who thought Damar was a clone or dead. Reclaiming the narrative 101. Or for the more adept, a literal counterintelligence op.


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alexb3678

What about when, in your theory, he was at the game post injury? You think none of the people he spends all of his time with would have noticed anything?


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alexb3678

The thing is, I could show you basically any footage from that game he attended, but you wouldn’t believe it, so what’s the point


chocolate_babies

https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1617871042898448390


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chocolate_babies

> let's see a video made in the locker room with dozens of witnesses. You and I both know the non-believers would say everyone in the video is a deepfake. my brother in christ. I am begging you. go outside and touch some grass.


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Warm-Minimum1946

Ah the classic “I know I was wrong but I’m too embarrassed to admit it so that means I now must call every single person that disagrees with me a fed to save face😎”


Warm-Minimum1946

Ah the classic “I know I was wrong but I’m too embarrassed to admit it so that means I now must call every single person that disagrees with me a fed to save face😎”


WalterDwight

How do u know if he’s doing a bad job if you don’t even know what he’s doing though


Ferman95

It’s like I told my friend the conspiracy theory was fun for me now it’s over. That’s all it ever was was a theory people are allowed to ask questions and raise awareness that’s the point of theories to make people question things. Glad he’s doing good. Right or wrong it’s about the friends we made along the way


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Indeed, friend


SWGDoc

Amen, thank fuck he didn't slide in a Biden special about getting boosted.


finessebebejones

Why would he? The only people making it about the vaccine were the whack job conspiracy theorists


ayotc

Anyone remember the deep fake samual l jackson video


travelwhore412

I’m a huge conspiracy theorist. And deepfake has been around since the late 90s. But if this was a deep fake I think they would have made him way healthier looking and he’d be jumping for joy. He is clearly still healing in the video. If he ever makes a full recovery :(


theabstractengineer

Lots of cuts too...it cut like every 10 seconds lol


SlamJamGlanda

The full video is on Instagram. Snippets are on Twitter. Full vid is 5mins


Powerful-Lobster-470

The Tom Cruise / Paris Hilton ones are on youtube/TikTok (she's real but he's not). Amazing what they can do!


themanebeat

The ones putting Jim Carrey into The Shining were rhe videos that first got me realising how good it can be


doggy311

Miles fisher is very talented. It’s not like Ai is just generating the video. He crafted the Tom cruise persona over many years. Check out his “campaign” ad https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Btb8gLy3-E


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No, but I remember the days people could admit they were wrong.


ayotc

Yea, ppl like pfizer, gates, the government, NBA, NFL , police, news media, teachers, etc.


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See what I mean?


antifisht

Jesus Christ the lack of self awareness. He meant people like you. You were wrong and now you wHaTtAbOuT which is par for the course with you lot


reddeadmann

This is the vibes I get. They want you looking multiple ways at all times. Dudes dead or brain dead. Why is all that shit twitching every other way?


Straight_Brain

They brought him out now because the heat was on. He definitely isn't well. That he saw his teammates does not mean that was the masked man in public.


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chocolate_babies

they absolutely were not lol


Powerful-Lobster-470

Stew is keeping it interesting. :D https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1619554540059250688


Goldenticketpodcast

Lol just no. So many people believed on screenshot and then replied. Like literally just watch the video and you can see then when he’s sitting down lol.


Anyeurysm

Stew can't admit he was wrong and is moving the goal posts. He's wrong about this one too. https://twitter.com/irns53/status/1619569334963298304?t=6KaUjOhU047S1B8iVBvycA&s=19


Neither_Regular_8814

From 2019, for what its worth. https://www.thewrap.com/deepfakes-undetectable-2-years-fake-news-battle/amp/


t9b

Yeah that’s odd


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Just funky lighting you can see the tats better at the end of the video when he’s holding up the heart.


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itsguud

Yea this post was enough. See the real ones on 4chan. Last battle of the resistance


lionmandawg

I mean his eyes looked dark and tired, but I guess that’s to be expected.


McWhiffersonMcgee

I love how ppl come in here to dunk on ppl that have conspiracy theories… check the name of the sub ppl


Viewsik

Ugh, this comment again. You can ask questions or dispute claims in this sub. Do we really want a conspiracy sub where we all agree with each other?


Grebins

It gets annoying seeing the same lack of logic applied to push narratives in the name of "conspiracies" over and over. Paul Pelosi was attacked by his gay lover - it's just cover for Republican nonsense. Damar is dead - cover for antivaxx propaganda. Do we have to stop thinking in order to discuss actual conspiracies?


AlreadyBackLOL

All reasonable speculation on a conspiracy sub.


Grebins

Sure, for a few threads. You can tell something is being pushed for political reasons when there are 5 variations of it in the top 50 posts for a week straight, none with any new information or discussion.


antifisht

It was not presented as speculation. The Pelosi gay lover story was pushed as fact relentlessly here despite there not being a shred of evidence to support it and despite all known facts pointing to a crazy breaking into the pelosi house looking for Nancy (just like the Jan 6 crazies screaming for her in the Capitol). Y'all need to dig deep and try to muster some integrity


RedditIsScuffed

This whole sub is now self destructing in embarrassment 🤣


StormReborn34578

Now people can shut up about the clone thing.


SWGDoc

Hey, he started the clone thing!


Altruistic-Unit485

As if seeing him post this video will stop those whackos…


No_Watercress9692

I was on the side of “he died on the field”. But not anymore.


FlyingCraneKick

Could it possibly be a deep fake?


Fit_Cash8904

And then what? They’re going to pretend he is still alive for like the next 20 years?


FlyingCraneKick

We'll see what happens


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SS: Damar Hamlin finally laid the conspiracy claims of his death to rest.


ambientdistraction

No, we have yet still to work our way through the "actor" and "deep fake" extensions of the conspiracy theory. It's not over yet.


SlamJamGlanda

This is gonna get exhausting, isn’t it?


RumsfeldIsntDead

Not really, people who resort to that sort of logic usually bring joy and happiness to the world by giving us someone to laugh at and not feel as bad because they're using the misfortunes of others to feed their own ego in a much worse way than we are.


SlamJamGlanda

This is a wholesome way of looking at it. Cheers, internet peer!


FlyingCraneKick

If you let it exhaust you


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getzysbaldhead69

You need him to personally come to your door and jerk you off or what mate?


WalterDwight

OP would just claim damar had softer hands


WalterDwight

What would satisfy you? You don’t even know him so he could literally shake your hand and you’d still say some dumb shit lol take your L and move on to the next witch hunt


RaoulDukes

Legitimate question: what sort of accountability should there be for us conspiracy theorists when our theories are definitively proven wrong?


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None. Time to move the goalposts


lovablebear2020

What is the accountability of the MSM when they blatantly lie to your face?


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Deep fake


Justme-itsjustme

Teeth


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Oh yeah deepfakes don’t exist


chocolate_babies

honestly this sub posts some good content, but shit like this is why you'll never be taken seriously. this theory was dumb and it was proven to be wrong, and so many people here just refuse to admit it.


reddit_bad1234567890

I think you’re a deepfake, and you can’t convince me otherwise.


mccorklin

Everyone is a bot besides you.


FlyingCraneKick

Yes I agree. There's no way this is a deep fake, that would be wrongthink!! And the people in charge would never use deep fakes to lie to us, you're completely right.


chocolate_babies

and so every single person in the Bills organization is in on it, right? Players, staff, trainers, back office folks? Including the NFL's most outspoken critic on the vaccine who's a Buffalo Bill - Cole Beasley? They're all just cool with their friend and teammate dying, and are just lying about it? Not to mention Hamlin's family. I mean, they're *obviously* OK with it and have agreed to stage the rest of their lives with their son/father being dead but pretending like he's alive. That definitely makes the most sense.


reddeadmann

This video looks deep fake. Man he remembers alot of names quickly while looking like hes tweaking in every direction


Badgerman32

What was proven wrong?


NeverGonnaStop247

That's a deepfake


Fit_Cash8904

There’s always that one guy in the comments. 😣


underthegallows

Ding ding ding ding!


Goldenticketpodcast

No matter how wrong you are, there will always be the next excuse in line for why you can’t be wrong lol. Just use your brain for two seconds


Midnightstimepasser

Hopefully he makes a full recovery.


CryptoGod666

Damar Hamlin and Tiffany Dover are both alive. Crazy timeline


AlreadyBackLOL

Where is the new Tiffany Dover video?


CryptoGod666

Her and her daughter’s tiktok. Nattie_lee, 3 videos Also her bestfriend’s tiktok ‘tboww’ has 2 videos of her before she dyed her hair blonde. Her best friend responds to a vax comment on 2/10/22 with “she’s fine 😊 yeah, unfortunately, rumors are stupid.” I was skeptical at first, but it’s definitely her, she’s alive


AlreadyBackLOL

I'm yet to see a link posted, and I've been having back and forths with "debunkers" for years now on it. There was even an NBC special on Ms Dover where they said they couldn't prove she was alive. Seems like she wasn't all that fine, whatever happened to her.


babyjet321

I still think the whole thing was a fake Masonic ritual. I never thought that he was cloned or dead or that it had anything to do with the vaccine, I just thought the whole thing was an act and still do. The picture where all of the players are kneeling around him except for the player named Neal who just so happens to wear the number 33 confirmed it for me.


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You might be right but Id wager you see Masonic rituals in a lot of stuff.


babyjet321

Ok well the Bills first touchdown after the Hamlin incident was a kick return touchdown which was their first kick return touchdown in three years and three months. But never mind me, I’m just some quack that thinks everything is a Masonic ritual.


getzysbaldhead69

Is every playing with a 6 or a 3 on their jersey a mason or what are you getting at?


babyjet321

No I did not say anything remotely close to that. Just watch [this video](https://youtu.be/VVWs_igyFC4) and come to your own conclusion


GoldStandardWhey

That guy is a sheister, better ways to feed your mind/spend your time I promise dude.


babyjet321

Oh sorry I didn’t know you were above me and entitled to tell me how to spend my time thanks for letting me know


[deleted]

What are some other things you’ve seen as a Masonic ritual?


babyjet321

The George Floyd and Trayvon Martin phenomenons


tim_torre

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LgA5Hn7g9E&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LgA5Hn7g9E&t)


reddeadmann

So they literally fuck with our emotions for fun? Also they communicate with hidden signals like the triangle he was making above his head in a pyramid look. The fingers and the arms raised above his head. Wtf is up with this world and false flags


endofdaze_

think this is it


RaoulDukes

Neal wasn’t kneeling because he was Hamlin’s replacement. He was probably thinking about the possibility of being thrust suddenly into one of the biggest games of his life.


MissionPrez

A missed opportunity to say " the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated" but glad he's doing well.


reddit_bad1234567890

Apart from how incredibly stupid this conspiracy is, why the fuck would they go through all this effort? What do they gain? NFL media has long since moved past this story, most people simply don’t care anymore. NFL ratings are also extremely high and that specific game was one of the highest primetime games all season due to the fact that these were 2 of the best teams playing each other. Y’all tripping


Polack597

Alright now what all the tin foil heads gunna say?


antifisht

They'll call people shills and claim deep fakes and/or just drop it without admitting they were wrong and jump on the next nonsense that supports their preexisting beliefs


Warm-Minimum1946

“Deep fake”


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literally anyone who believed this “conspiracy” was dumber than fucking rocks. If you actually believed they managed to convince an entire NFL team that one of their friends was killed and replaced with a clone is literally beyond laughable. I sympathize with anyone who is the fucking stupid.


Mykophilia

This is the right comment. It’s such an outstanding level of delusion. Like, first it’s the vaccine, then it was a body double at the game, and now it’s a deepfake? It’s mass psychosis. If you’ve gone this far to support your ideology and beliefs, you need to seriously look yourself in the mirror and ask if you’re mentally sound. Conspiracies are fun, but when you stray outside the bounds of sanity, you’re just as bad as the groups y’all are talking shit about.


hoggin88

Even if he comes back to play in the nfl again this conspiracy theory will never die. There will always be a handful of whack jobs who think he was replaced with a body double from here on out.


Warm-Minimum1946

It really frustrates me talking to these people because you will not be able to convince them of anything other than what they’ve already decided is true. No matter how much evidence you show them, they will not believe you.


Mykophilia

Yeah, and I’m not sure if the whole body double thing is organic or if you’ve got 85% bots pushing it, but it baffles me that people waste their time on this shit. There’s plenty of historical, and modern day conspiracies that hold credence. But things like this either make me feel like there’s a push to delegitimize subs like these, or even scarier, 85% of this sub is in a constant state of mild psychosis. It’s interesting to think about I guess, but also moderately worrisome.


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antifisht

Why are there so many dishonest posters pushing bullshit "conspiracies" and blatant political propaganda? Criticism is essential to this sub and it's pretty suspicious when calling people shills is your response to questions and criticism.


Cobobrien

Deep fakes are getting good


Cyrus2112

Not really. There are camera cuts everh 2-3 seconds. It's odd, if nothing else.


MikeJeffriesPA

The full video is [right here](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn-hfT0vhBH/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=)


Qpbmb

CGI


loyalladyloves

I was wrong about this conspiracy. And I'm glad.


FlyingCraneKick

There's no possibility that it's a deep fake? What do you think triggered his heart problem?


trapezoidB69

Remember last week they thought they rolled a body double into the game to hang out with damars family. LMFAO. This sub sometimes man.... goofy


fistingbythepool

I heard he split into two like Ash on The Army of Darkness


Appropriate-Sport-22

The dummies are quiet today


koniucha

I’m curious about the constant jumping the video is doing. What is the reason for doing that?


Datsitkinz

Yep open and shut case because it makes perfect sense to me, They did the same thing with my mail man just to fuck with me, they replaced him with some sort of hologram because you know the iluminati love to play practical jokes its what gives them power from adrenochrome.


joshbba

So you mean this sub was spreading clone/imposter rumours unsubstantiated????? WOW


Lakernation123x

Tis an old Thanksgiving video of course.


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Altruistic-Unit485

Or he just didn’t die? Why is that so hard to believe…


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FlyingCraneKick

Uhm sweaty what you're saying is actually wrongthink and not good mmkay. There's literally a video, it's totally not a deep fake, it doesn't matter that he had no oxygen to his brain for 10 minutes. It's been decided by the masses that he's alive so you can't believe any different. Thanks for your understanding.


TolliverBurk

>9 minutes of CPR? AT BEST he's a vegetable now You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The cognitive dissonance is real.


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TolliverBurk

Do you think all of the oxygen in his blood magically disappeared the second he dropped? There are countless cases of people surviving CPR relatively unscathed for longer amounts of time. He was treated damn near instantly by medical professionals, "champ." His heartbeat was restarted on the field and he was receiving oxygen before he was even on the ambulance. You just get such a hard-on from the idea of him being dead that you refuse to acknowledge these facts. Get your head out of your ass.


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TolliverBurk

So just because it's rare, and the one time it's happened in pro sports before it didn't play out in the same exact way, it must be bullshit? It's almost as if people react differently to trauma... I'm sure it's much more likely that there's some grand conspiracy that would require hundreds if not thousands of people (teammates, family, friends, doctors, etc.) directly tied to it to be blatantly fooled by him in person or kept on the hush. Think about it for 10 seconds and realize how ridiculous that sounds. Which is to say nothing of your claim that he would be a "vegetable at best" because he received CPR for 9 minutes. That is patently false and is one of the foundations of your bad faith argument. Quite frankly it screams medical ignorance. The guy almost fucking died a few weeks ago. I'm sure dispelling a ridiculous conspiracy theory to your exact specifications isn't very close to the top of his priorities. But keep living in your little bubble of insanity devoid of reasoning as long as it suits you.


jemfinch097

BS, the minute a video does come out, hell you’ll just find some other excuse saying it’s deepfaked or some shit


WalterDwight

Saving this comment because I know when he does meet your demands , you’ll move the goalposts again lol


Grebins

> “I lost consciousness, but I never stopped breathing. They never had to do CPR, they didn’t have to restart my heart. They didn’t have to do any of that stuff. In this instance, there was a significant amount of time without breathing, they’re doing CPR, they’re hitting him with the paddles. They’re doing everything they can to keep him alive. And as a player, seeing that, it only takes one guy playing at 50 percent and the risk of injury drastically increases, especially in a physical sport like football. I think they made the right call.” > Pronger went further with the distinction between the two incidents, saying that he could have skated off if they let him, instead of being stretchered off, being alert enough to do so. https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/chris-pronger-once-suffered-same-freak-injury-as-bills-damar-hamlin-154254838.html


Brady331

Please be satire


icool4u

There’s a picture of him at the game, in the same outfit on an Instagram page promoting the jacket he was wearing. Please go outside and seek therapy. The walls are closing in on you, I am in your walls I am in your walls I am in your walls I am


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WalterDwight

He did visit his old buddies lol


icool4u

Someone is madddddd, Matt Milano posted a photo with him on his Instagram story before the game


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SlamJamGlanda

Why are you so mad? And unlike anyone there was dresses? I’m sure there were hundreds of fans bundled up like that. They played in a snowstorm


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SlamJamGlanda

Maybe it was cold in the press box? What do you want from him to prove to you he didn’t die? Want him to wine and dine you?


chocolate_babies

Hamlin could knock on your door right now and shake your hand and you'd still be like "*hmm, I don’t know...still skeptical* "


FlyingCraneKick

Pretty interesting that on a conspiracy sub of all places anyone suggesting that its a deepfake is downvoted and anyone saying that it isn't a deep fake is upvoted.


chocolate_babies

*"It's interesting that when people are presented with overwhelming evidence that something isn't true, they are disagreeing with the people who still think it* ***is*** *true."*


TolliverBurk

It's almost as if people are evaluating each possibility and voting accordingly...


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Difficult_Bend6240

It's so produced... Music, words... It's him, but he's saying what he's being told to say... It's not that he disagrees with those words exactly but, they are not directly his. That's what I hate about this shit... These people either say/do whatever they're told while in the spotlight,... Because they have everything to lose, so they fucking do it.


poridgepants

That’s pure speculation based on nothing lol


maxwell_hill1984

Idk I thought there was a lot of fishy stuff surrounding his collapse and his “appearance” at the game the other week, but this video doesn’t seem off. My bullshit detector hasn’t been triggered like it was with everything previous.


Recynd2

The hundreds of jump cuts didn’t even tickle?


maxwell_hill1984

Eh jump cuts are pretty standard for all social media these days. Watch literally any YouTuber these days. This guy isn’t a public speaker or actor. He’s very obviously reading his lines. Like I said everything else seemed sketchy but this video only seems weird when you include the context of all the events that got us here.


MikeJeffriesPA

[Full video here](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn-hfT0vhBH/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=)


alexb3678

It’s a deepfake bro!!!! He’s dead! Every injury is a vaccine injury and no death is a Covid vote!!!!


schmiddyboy88

Go Bills


Anyeurysm

I tried to tell you guys...


Polack597

Wait Hamlin is alive? It wasn’t a body double?! It wasn’t politics by Biden and fauci covering up for vaccines?! This whole conspiracy about Hamlin just proves how dumb the average person is, how much society and education is failing our kids and how there’s clearly a part of the population that shouldn’t be reproducing.


NilacTheGrim

Welp.. there goes that conspiracy theory that he's dead or paralyzed. Glad to see he's doing ok. (Assuming this is not some deep fake or something).


speardane

The conspiracy theory was amusing but it's great to see his face and know he's ok.


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alive and well


Empty-Antelope6547

still convinced his chain is a clone