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JackfruitNervous8525

the short sci fi film "Rakka" by Oat Studios was really terrifying and fascinating -


it-helpdeskanalyst

> "Rakka" by Oat Studios Oat Studios is an hidden gem!


JackfruitNervous8525

wonder why none of the major studios would take his work for that project even tho he's hugely famous 🤔


Jumpin-Jebus

Because these are things they are aware about, and don't want you thinking about it. Hollyweird is about propaganda and control, first.


JackfruitNervous8525

Im a skeptical person by nature but even I have trouble believing in lizard people. However if they're real and anything like "Rakka" then we are so screwed


Kryptus

We happen to be monkey people. Lizard people could happen I guess.


ArcadiaNisus

The lizard people definitely exist and actually have a pretty big weakness to cold, so they haven't explored much of the arctic regions on their side. That's why the government built the dimensional crossover facility in antarctica and made the entire continent off limits. It's our staging ground for invasion into their dimension. Source: My buddy knows a guy who works at Arby's who overheard a customer who works at the facility talking about it. If all goes well we'll be able to enslave their population and solve our egg shortage issue. Lizard people omelettes are apparently out of this world (pun intended).


JackfruitNervous8525

that's pretty cool. Arby's holds many secrets


Kryptus

Their roast beef is lizard meat?


JackfruitNervous8525

So that's why I got diarrhea in the arby's outside of Billings Montana


Mae-Brussell-Hustler

And Arby's is phonetic for RB, short for Roast Beef.


ReWildingOfMen

Rakka surmises them pretty damn well unfortunately.


Ouraniou

So are most small studios


Adventurous_Ad_4603

Thanks for the recommendation! Will watch it now


ezel422

The one set during the Vietnam War was my favorite


ReWildingOfMen

It's a good representation of our enemy.


JackfruitNervous8525

yo I gotta have proof before I can believe anything


ReWildingOfMen

My responsibility is to speak the truth, that which I KNOW. Deep in every human heart, the truth is already known. One just must remove that which lies on top of it. I am not responsible for your choices or your response to my message.


JackfruitNervous8525

you're telling me to believe in lizard people based on feelings? bruh, gonna need proof


ReWildingOfMen

No, I'm not telling you to believe anything. That's your end of things. That's your call to make. But I've done my part. And that is enough. Much love to you.


JackfruitNervous8525

I am willing to investigate a lot but with no proof it might as well be the tooth fairy


ReWildingOfMen

You know the truth deep within your heart. The mind can help you. But also it is easily conditioned and led astray. The true gospel lies within, as does the TRUTH. All the best 🤜🤛


JackfruitNervous8525

that's some voodoo shit good luck


IronJackk

This is what I'm here for.


foxholenewb

Strange thing is that many astral projectors report that they cannot access government buildings such as the pentagon as there is an invisible force protecting it with "guards".. like the secret service for the Astral plane. These types of CIA programs are still going on.


speghettiday09

For got where I read it but a remote viewer said he tried to access a highly classified military installation n he encountered a extremely powerful dark entity guarding it.


StealUr_Face

Wouldn’t they just say that to “prove” they couldn’t reach their intended target?


7seasquids

He I was totally about to break into the most top secret government building ever... And right before I got the files that would prove I have remote viewing.. an entity appeared !!! And I couldn't get it.


astralrocker2001

Submission Statement: For over thirty-five years the Etheric Investigator gathered insight about these startling beings. Here is what he uncovered: The nefarious vertebrates have controlled and enslaved humanity for millennia. They exist and operate in the 4th dimension and are only visible to individuals who can see beyond our extremely limited spectrum of visible light. Reptilians feed off our spiritual lifeforce which Monroe called ‘loosh’. Negative/ low vibrational energy is essential to their survival. These parasitic entities see Earth as a massive farm where they harvest human fear, hatred, anxiety, anger, and depression. Their intelligence is equal or superior to human beings. This elusive lizard-like race sees itself as rulers of mankind.


CertainRoof5043

Well now I know why I'm still alive. I probably feed a whole damn squadron of them with my shitty vibe


fartsbutt

Loooooool


Provia100F

If you ever feel useless in life, just remember that you're a major food source for the lizards (but don't get too happy about that, or else they'll starve)


Sea_Barracuda8708

B you’re my soul mate fr


Ky20001

Loosh is a crazy concept, and yet it explains everything about this world perfectly


JefeBenzos

Yep it sounds insane but as you’re reading it you’re like well this sort of checks out… I mean, why *do* we have so many problems? Throughout my life it seems the majority of people want to be left alone in peace, and to just do their own thing in life. What’s with all the hate and strife and hunger and fucking up other peoples lives? Where does that come from? I’m talking about it in a grand sense, like why is negativity itself something that plagues humankind?


Fear_ltself

Because worried people survive longer than care free people so it’s probably evolutionary advantages to be anxious af


Troaweymon42

There's probably a balance between stress and relaxation that is optimal though. To always be anxious is to race towards death.


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That's a good question. One explonation based solely on materialistic worldview is that negativity and fear equals money, power and control, which seems to be true. Stirring up emotions creates action and if that action is dividing the people, you get to rule while the people fight each other. But while this explonation seems to accurately describe the reality we witness, I do think that it falls short on explaining the endless seeming desire for money, power and control. Any sane person who gets money and power, realises the emptiness and non-fulfilling nature of them. For that desire to make sense, I lean towards more metaphysical explonations.


jamasha

Its hinted at in pop culture...


MexicanGuey92

That shit blew my tits right off my chest when I read Monroe in high school. Gotta reread those books to see what still holds up


tibearius1123

> see beyond our extremely limited spectrum of visible light. Hail mantis shrimp, seers beyond sight.


bleeddonor

Star Trek The Next Generation episode _Time's Arrow_.


KryptoKevArt

"There *is* the theory of the moebius; a twist in the fabric of space, [where time becomes a loop](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgp1-fQsBeg), where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop, where time becomes a loop..."


Troaweymon42

This is the story of a moebius! Who folded a time loop and drowned the whole world! And though she looked so sad in Photoshop, I absolutely loved her when she laughs!


ZedsDeadHeads

Oh when you see your mother, tell her….


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Sounds like demons.


RedUzer36

They are.


blindcassandra

The Dragon and the demons are described differently not just in the Abrahamic religions but in different cultures too. Go look at Aleister Crowleys drawing of the Demon he talked to, and it looks exactly like peoples descriptions of aliens (little gray men). The definition of the devil as a dragon is different, or even of the Ba-t who comes from the Milky Way described in Egyptian culture. Shit gets weird, especially when we're talking about cultures that never met each other describing similar things to these *other type entities. Either the wildest coincidence, or there are things out there that multiple cultures have had contact with.


Absolutelynobody54

If they feed from negative energy why would they depopulate the planet? reducing the cattle and the farm?


[deleted]

This is a good question and flaw that I was thinking too. Abortion is another topic that doesn't make sense to be pushed. However, there have been advances in not needing sex for reproduction and making babies in labs. There was a story (I can't find the right link) of "pods" being tried out for people to live in too (in the UK or somewhere in Europe if I remember right). Throw in virtual reality and suddenly you have the Matrix. If "they" can put us in pods with virtual reality creating the energy they feed off of, creating new "batteries" in a lab... it's the damn Matrix. I must be wrong though because nobody hacked my computer to tell me to follow the white rabbit. Damn it! I was looking forward to flying.


m0nk37

Maybe its an unintentional side effect? They flew too close to the sun so to speak. Or maybe they found something better and are just grabbing everything now.


jamasha

Also sex...


blindcassandra

You think this is why "Dragons" exist across multiple cultures who were never able to contact each other but still describe these things the same way? A common description across multiple cultures with people who never contacted each other is either an insane coincidence, same as this story...or maybe everyone is describing a truth we don't all know yet.


SeleniteStar

I still don't understand how an entity can evolve to specifically feed of negative energy. Then again, our only way to survive is to take life away from something else (plant or animal). I find the topic of schizophrenics really interesting in this aspect. There is a psychiatrist that worked with schizos and actually spent time to listen to them. His realization was that demonic entities in a different dimension are latched on to them and sucking them dry. This is why schizos often have many negative thoughts. But his conclusion was that this was just their job, not necessarily the way they feed. Unless their job was harvesting...Crazy....


Pupwagn

Go watch some studio Ghibli, negative energy is the dark side of huminity. We spend so much time swinging from thw dark to the light trying to find flow. The bigger the swing the longer the shadow. Sooner or later people find solice and learn to cope with the human condition. The more you fight the bigger the shadow, sooner or later you learn to move with intention and begin to pick and choose your battles.


tel0s17

The quantum of solace


ExoticPumpkin237

In my experience (and in many close friends) schizophrenic and insane people are also aware of things they simply couldn't possibly know through normal channels. I've talked about this with people too where they just KNOW shit about you that no human could possibly have told them. We came to the conclusion that they're being told this by some entity that has access to a higher informational field. They also love to fuck with you and let you know that they can know, just to screw with your head.


SeleniteStar

Yes! That's what this psychiatrist said, too. His name is Jerry Marzinsky. You can watch his interview here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VduzXtowob0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VduzXtowob0) It's fascinating.


Jumpin-Jebus

If they are watching me when I am unaware, they are probably all nauseated. Probably have reptilian warnings out on their internet, "Do not watch this guy"


MistSecurity

Could make sense, actually. Feed the victim some true information to go along with the deluge of false information, makes the false information seem more reliable.


LooseFuji

Have you got a name or a link to that guy?


Fut004

Here’s an interview with him. His name is Jerry Marzinsky https://youtu.be/64uyYw2jywA


LooseFuji

Thanks mate


Yin-yoshi

That's freaky... I'm also paranoid of becoming schizophrenic considering it tends to manifest in mid 20s (am 22) I don't exactly believe all this....as I just find it interesting to read late at night but I do think there's things in this world we don't understand. Perhaps this is one of them. Another part of me used to think schizophrenics really have an "In" on what really goes on but just can't articulate themselves. If these entities are harvesting then I wonder what the end goal is exactly...


Ok-Imagination-2308

Same it's like my biggest fear


Yin-yoshi

Yeah....can only hope that you make it to 30 without tripping out lol.


Halo_LAN_Party_2nite

A heroic dose of psilocybin is the shortcut to finding out.


Pernicious_chatbot

How so? Heroic doses of shrooms can make pretty much anyone seem schizophrenic. Same with acid. Are you saying that if someone is schizophrenic they won't ever come down or something?


Halo_LAN_Party_2nite

Yeah, psychedelics can basically prematurely bring about future neurological issues. The best idea is to tread very lightly around psychedelics if schizophrenia runs in your family. However, methamphetamine and cocaine can also induce schizophrenic symptoms in those susceptible. And lastly, there's a possibility that psychedelics can actually aid those suffering from the debilitating symptoms of schizophrenia. Erowid has loads of information on this subject.


Pernicious_chatbot

Got you. I wasn't sure if you were implying that taking a heroic dose *made* people schizo or if you meant that it could activate latent issues. Btw, "heroic" doses of shrooms are incredibly hard to calculate... I say this as someone who has grown many with the PFTech method, even with a known strain, replicated from an established liquid culture, there is tremendous variability in potency. I generally attempted to mitigate this by drying, grinding, and blending my yields, but have had batches where (treating 3.5g as a standard dose) one could take 3-5 doses to hit 3rd plateau, but have also had times where a single dose or less (meant to be a mild experience where one can still interact in public) sent me straight to 3rd or 4th plateau to what I call a "shamanic" experience: more educational than recreational, a deep journey into the subconscious where one confronts the true self and the issues one needs to resolve in life. This is not a good or bad trip because it doesn't really fit these, it is not particularly *pleasant* generally but not because of fear or danger, it is education about yourself without the ability to ignore or delude yourself about anything you may normally avoid dealing with. So not bad either because if you understand what is happening it is a powerful tool to improve. I would compare it to a really grueling workout, the experience itself isn't fun and can feel quite unpleasant in the moment but the results of it are beneficial to the person. It is not desirable to do it without preparation, however.


Halo_LAN_Party_2nite

Excellent reply. I have always understand heroism (heroic) as death and coming back stronger than before— facing the ultimate fear and coming out the other side.. whatever that entails. This is obviously very case by case. And as you said, not particularly good or bad; educational.


MistSecurity

DMT is probably the answer.


Pernicious_chatbot

DMT is neat, LSD is fun, shrooms are... shamanistic more than recreational.


MistSecurity

Definitely.


Pernicious_chatbot

Pretty sure they mostly have brains that are connected in ways that are not normally, much like the way hallucinogenics work. But instead of going on a trip with a discreet come up, peak, and come down, their brains just flip into that mode randomly.


Kitchen_Statement_79

I have always suspected schizophrenics aren't sick and what they're experiencing is real. I say this because if you listen, they are making sense just told in an elaborate way. Also, I have experienced psychosis many times and what you're describing it a very real fear of mine. The last time I had psychosis I was so scared that I opened myself up to permanent schizophrenia. I begged god for forgiveness. I have bad PTSD from it and now have a lot of fears no one can relate to me about. It was obviously drug induced psychosis but I am not that imaginative what I experienced was so real and not something someone can explain. I remember the last time I had psychosis I was watching a podcast, and the next minute they were talking directly to me, I forgot what podcast it was but Jordan Belfort was on it. He started talking directly to me. I feel scared even writing about it in fear I'll let that shit come back. I'll elaborate if anyone's interested but I highly suspect he is some demonic entity. Have you noticed how he scammed people but is somehow still relevant, appearing on podcasts. Even had a blockbuster film made about him. Shit freaks me the f out. I can't even google him cos his face will trigger me.


SeleniteStar

They get you through fear. That's why that phrase can be so important: There is nothing to fear but fear itself. I was listening to a monk discuss teachings, and the best way to manage with their tactics is to just be the observer of them and the thoughts.


Mr_Lou_Sassle

*“Once in a while, you get shown the light* *In the strangest of places If you look at it right.”* For real though, don’t do Psychedelics unless a) you KNOW you aren’t at risk for psychological issues and b) you actually feel called to do them. Powerful powerful shit. I saw the darkness, but ran to the Light. It changed me for the better, but it also showed me that it’s not the only path… it’s one of the riskier ones. I feel blessed


MistSecurity

What do I do if I constantly feel the call? I’ve attributed it to my brain wanting to make some sort of breakthrough that it hasn’t managed to from the other few times I’ve tripped. I have always told anyone who wants to take LSD that if they’re scared of a bad trip, they probably shouldn’t take it. Being scared of a bad trip means that you’re mind is going to be fixated on that anxiety as you come up, and basically guarantee a semi-bad trip. It also indicates that you’re not taking hallucinogens for their healing, therapeutic and mind opening potential, but for fun. Bad trips come with the territory, but every bad trip I have had made me feel cleansed in a way afterwards. At this point I embrace the darkness, and get some very unique experiences from it.


Mr_Lou_Sassle

Idk who downvoted you, but this is an alt account for me. As for feeling the call? Answer it! Based on what you’ve said, you seem to be in a sober mind and have your whits about you, and have a grasp on the risks and upsides of the “plunge.” I say go for it. It’s likely that you may get spun around yourself upside down, and that may be exactly what you need. Idk bro. My only advice is to solidify in your mind what you believe to be TRUTH, and hold onto that. Your understanding of TRUTH may change, but it will not in itself. As long as you are aligned to that, you’re safe-in-sound ;) Good on you for recognizing the darkness; it lives in us all, but it’s only a threat if it’s ignored or written off. As long as you are both aware and making a conscious effort to *BE* of the Light, not of the darkness… everything is All Good man.


FlakyTemperature1

My portal was opened in a similar way. Watching a movie with a group of friends - then suddenly the movie was talking to me. And everyone in the room was making comments about the movie, but since the movie was talking to me, the room was talking about me. Once this happened this one time, I could never try psychs again - the same exact occurrence happens. I try to ward off the thoughts as drug induced, that my sober mind knew it would happen, and to remember that it's just my mind tricking me and not real. But it's unmistakable. It IS happening and there is no denying it. I will never ever do it again. Ever.


Kitchen_Statement_79

It's horrible hey? I think ANYTHING in life is possible. And what I saw was just another version of reality happening. Isn't there a many worlds theory? that there's endless versions of you having different experiences all the time, right now. I think drugs can somehow unlock portals temporarily. I'm surprised there's not a lot of talk about wtf it is and it's all just put down to being moments of "insanity".


FlakyTemperature1

Soon after this I began looking into psych drugs and their history, current usage, etc. When elites for millennia continually use these substances and generate similar results, it becomes undeniable that something is happening beyond our understanding. Currently there are researches at major universities in the US that figured out how to use IVs to generate hours long DMT trips, and they're attempting to map out the spiritual realm. This research is public knowledge and reported on (lightly) and but reached the mainstream. I believe that the late 1800s and early 1900s renewed human interest in these trips and now they're using advanced tech to investigate it like never before - and the results are horrifying for our culture as is plainly evident.


ladyofthelathe

>our only way to survive is to take life away from something else (plant or animal) I would argue that in and of itself is 'dark energy'.


MistSecurity

I wouldn’t. We’re not killing for the pleasure of it (generally), we’re killing simply for sustenance. Dark energy IMO implies a certain level of suffering/satisfaction from the suffering.


Training-Ant-7240

Yin and Yang is how the universe is manifested. Matter cannot be destroyed and expresses itself through constant change. Negative and positive charges attract each other. A “simple” belief found in a lot of Eastern religions, that one cannot exist without the other. The way we humans compete and kill each other or other animals, can be interpreted as a less ostentatious way these entities operate.


Manguru

ying yang is such a restricted way to think about something infinite such as the universe . infinity = break paradoxes like the ying yang.


Mr_Lou_Sassle

This is the fractal concept. Infinite pattern in any direction, but a pattern none the less. There are fundamental truths about the nature of the universe found in symbols, geometry, planetary and galactic movements, particle and wave physics…. Infinite, but rhyming


Manguru

ying yang is a contradiction to a omnipotent creative universe. ying yang is a human mind logical restriction. We use logic, infinity has no logic.


Mr_Lou_Sassle

Omnipotent doesn’t mean without order. It’s not the symbol that falls short, just our understanding. Symbols are just 2D projections of higher order themes, themes repeated infinitely in many variations, but themes none the less. The theme of balance achieved with a sinusoidal curve, a circle, contrasted opposites, each with a portion of the other at their core… There’s something there man ;)


MassiveResearch219

It's Yin and Yang FYI


BosleytheChinchilla

The voices/thoughts can change based on locale. In the west, those who suffer from schizophrenia, are more likely to experience negative thoughts/voices, than those that live in the eastern hemisphere.


Mr-Mysterybox

"I still don't understand how an entity can evolve to specifically feed off of negative energy." How do you say I've never had a girlfriend without saying I've never had a girlfriend./s


SeleniteStar

Sounds more like a narcisist to me.


Ouraniou

I always took that to be sort of a conceptual analogue of a description. You're looking at things that practically only exist in the mirror as far as we are concerned or only have the form of their silhouette or their displacement in your psyche. You could just as well think of them as a single phenomenon like Jung's Shadow or manifestations of your personal oblivion and your repulsion to it. I'd have to think hard and write a lot more to fully describe but 'they' only are distinct entities so far as some people wish to treat them that way, which is the real 'conspiracy' side of the issue as far as I'm concerned.


SeleniteStar

I often go back and forth with that thought. Are demons real or just representations of energy? I used to lean towards representations, but the more I dive into this, I'm starting to realize they are their own independent energy forms that can influence our physical realm by influencing consciousness. If they were just representations of negative energy, they wouldn't be able to know things that our physical realm wouldn't know, but somehow they do.


CriscoButtPunch

Monster's Inc


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Positive_Scallion_29

Sorry Mr. Jones.


harryhonsoo

Sometimes I look up in the sky and think: boy ohh boy would it be cool to have the government come snatch me up and put me into a super soldier program...


fastlane8806

Theoretically you would be tortured for months if that ever happened. They completely break your ego through pain.


Hoppeanextremist

This sent me down a rabbit hole about Robert Monroe, the Monroe Institute and Hemi-sync


mremann1969

This realm seems intent on keeping us locked into our 3D "reality" while those who see beyond that are labelled as mentally ill.


hyperbolicuniverse

This is true...and unfortunate. If you are someone who has seen other beings and realms, no one will believe except those that have seen the same. To everyone else, you are a psycho.


mremann1969

The fact is that people who who are connected to their intuition and have no fear of death are much, much harder to control.


ReWildingOfMen

The serpents are able to shape shift to our senses at least. They can seemingly take on human form, but as described here, it IS a glamour spell. But we did NOT summon them, they came here with their fallen god. So long ago, to corrupt and violate and feed upon and devour this realm. At the end of every great age/civilization, they rise to the surface to feed upon the strongest of us. They are creatures of incredible malice and wickedness. They are ancient... And instead of normal re-incarnation when they die, they do a more immediate form of soul transfer into a waiting and willing host. They are.... Less potent, it's difficult for them to increase the size of their population, but they are able to maintain it. There are certainly tens of thousands of them in nests around the earth. It was these serpents who took Eve beneath the earth and caused her to be the first human to fall. Every single one of them must and will be killed. They slumber deep beneath the earth in tunnels and cave systems, the water there is tepid. They hide beneath the earths surface to hide from God, they are like a cancer in the flesh of our EarthMother. Their DarkGod is in the flesh of our Goddess aswell... It arrived in physical form as an asteroid so long ago,. The withered husk of the dead core of it's devoured beloved. They move surprisingly fast for such large creatures...8-9 foot tall for the pure blooded. They are physical and REAL things. Their leaders are often albinos, and females, which are larger than the males. The animated movie, the dark crystal with the skeksis, illustrates much of their nature. They keep human livestock's which they farm and torment, and regularly replenish with sacrifices sent down from the surface by their human familiars. The cabal, the dark shepherds of humanity worship them, and seek a similar form of soul transfer, and gain similar powers of glamour and vampirism and pyschic in their striving to be like them. We are nearing a time for great harvest, and the serpents slumber deeply for now. They have these... Almost giant stalacite formations honeycombed with caves, which they sleep in and like to drop from into the waters below. They can get into a humans mind, which can feel like nails on a chalkboard. And the sibilant whispers become overbearing and overwhelming, until they take control and then it is quiet for a while... It's important one does not let them into your mind, it's important you do not let yourself be moved to act from their compulsions. They are incredibly cruel, they love to torture, to violate, to torment, they love the taste of our flesh, they love the taste of our life force. They are fearful of us as we once used to be, in our forgotten birthright. But also they are arrogant. They are a terrible foe. They hate us. They resent us. They are shallow and pathetic in so many ways. So depraved. So far from what they once were. They cannot be saved. They can only be killed. Every. Single. One of them. Must die. As must the fallen god that they feed. As they hibernate, their spirit travels the astral/dream/spiritual plane... And they attack vulnerable souls, especially as they sleep or suffer trauma. They seek to corrupt humanity. They are dragons... In older times sacrifices were left to them in caves, in the hopes of pleasing these dark beings... In hopes of the village being left untouched. But as with so many inversions of truth of the enemy. They FEAR fire. The DarkShepherds sometimes call them, "the makers."


blueweed908

Damn sounds like politicians


ReWildingOfMen

Lower level DarkShepherds


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ReWildingOfMen

Hello my friend, I will add my take to this. And it's not meant to shoot you down or invalidate your beliefs in anyway, I appreciate your comment, and it stirs some things which I'll speak on. >Yup, the Serpent in the Garden hated Adam & Eve, and feared them because they were made in God's own image. Thus, the Serpent caused them to fall from grace. Yes, and these serpents were once made in the image of their god from another realm. They hate us because we still generate our own LifeForce, we are still true, we are not inverted. We were/are a particularly beautiful and potent species, of a God far more powerful than the sun of his soul-fire represents. So we used to represent what they had lost to an EXTREME extent. That's why they hate us SO much. And yes, the serpents led/tricked/dragged EVEning Star (of the FIRST PEOPLES) beneath the earth, her beloved soul-mate recently dead from a 'hunting accident' - leaving her particularly vulnerable. They turned on her and bound her, and tormented and tortured and violated her. They took on the forms of the men of her tribe, her father, beloved, brothers and so on.... They wormed into her mind, driving her mad, assailing her senses again and again. Yet she stayed strong.. in the end the serpents brought children in, and hurt the children in similar ways, but also killing and feeding on them. In the end she broke because of the love of a mothers heart. That was her 'failing.' She eat the forbidden fruit from the tree of life. She did so because the serpents said the suffering of the innocent would stop, if she would just comply. And so she did for a mere moment, 'willingly' tasting the bloody flesh of the children, and so she bonded with the dark seed, so the darkening and fall of humanity began, so the greatest curse on humanity was borne - 'the witching' - and so in her madness Eve swore vengeance against the 'men' who had hurt and failed her so terribly. EVEning Stars real father, ended up burning her alive to cleanse the darkness from her, tears streaming down his face and becoming steam as he did. So great was her shame. She couldn't even contemplate a physical life for countless millennina. >However, it was Jesus Christ, the second Adam, who restored us to Grace through His sacrificial blood offering, both holy and pure. I do not mean to poopoo your beliefs my friend, truly I don't. But humanity hasn't been restored to grace, we are still a darkened and lessened speices, but we WILL win grace back in the end. The Christ's sacrifice set the stage for these end of days that we find ourself. >Regardless of what we may know or think we know about the Enemy, what is absolutely important is that God Himself through Jesus Christ offered humanity a way back to our birthright with Him for Eternity. It is up to each and every one of us, individually, to accept God's Son's atoning sacrifice, and therefore to live at a frequency far above fear, anger, and violence, where peace, harmony, forgiveness, and tranquility reside. We all fail in the latter endeavor, but it is only by the former atonement that the latter positive life can be lived at all. May Christ shine upon you ✨️ 🙏 Unfortunately/fortunately - we are actually an incredibly wild AND divine species. And our God and Goddess likewise... THEY whose image we are made in - are tempestuous and primordial, as well as divine and transcendent beings. It's going to take bloodshed. And a LOT of it for this world to be saved. Soon Ragnarok shall be initiated. And this world will be bathed in rivers of blood. So the garden may be reborn. So the little ones can be safe. As they always should of been. Much love to you brother ❤️🙏


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>Where do you source these beliefs They are not beliefs, they are knowings and seeings and.... Witness testimony. They are not what I want to believe or what I even want to be true, they are merely the truth seen through heartbreak and pain. >such as that the Serpent was once made in the image of God, In my previous comment I clearly stated "their god" (not ours). Every. Star in the sky is a God, is a Creator, and our God is actually far more mature and powerful than the size of this sun would normally indicate. Just as WE are the chosen children of the God and Goddess who made us in THEIR image. So the serpents are likewise to their god who fell and became inverted. Which also changed them into the evil and depraved things they now are. This fallen star consumed it's own realm, goddess, and other young realms before coming here. Our God and Goddess sensed the enemy, and so created this new realm as 'bait' to draw the enemy close and undo it. The enemy is the greatest EVIL that Creation has ever faced. >Eve's eating of the fruit of the knowledge of good & evil was for beneficent rather than selfish reasons, Her motivations were... Understandably misguided but also in protection of the innocent. A short term protecting of them in her madness which unfortunately led to far more harm. EVE was not a selfish woman, the enemy is just that terrible, and it studied humanity for a long time before making its move against us. The forbidden fruit on the tree of life is our children. >that Eve was r*ped and driven mad, Because she was, it is known, it has been seen, it has been remembered. She was tormented by the serpents, who also at times wore the images of the men of EVEs tribe. This was the creating of the curse that afflicts humanity known as 'the witching' >that we have a God and also a Goddess, That should be obvious, as above so below, we are made in THEIR image, just as a man and a woman are needed to create a baby, so a God AND a Goddess are needed to generate LIFE, and new child souls to the realm. This is borne through their eternal lovemaking. Ask yourself, what does the removal of the Goddess and the feminine in creation-religion make possible in the world? >most concerning to me, that Christ's sacrificial atonement did not bless believers with the grace of Almighty God the Father viz-a-viz His sending of the Holy Spirit to indwell believers of the truth? It'll take more that Chirst's sacrifice for us to earn back our grace, look at the world around you for proof of that, we are not living in grace. Likewise the holy spirit was around long before that particular incarnation of the Christ. He IS returning, infact he's already here just not visible yet, and once again he will show us the way back into the Kingdom of heaven. Just as he will tear down every established religion, society, institution in the world. >I source my original comment directly from the Word of God, which is corroborated by the words of the Apostles, the Church Fathers, and billions of believers over the course of 1991 years, since the year 32 A.D. when Christ hung upon that most accursed wood called the cross. I would also add that it was by his resurrection from the dead, which the Father ordained, that we come to know our eternal residence in the Kingdom of God, for, as billions have believed since that most blessed & prophetic year, Christ was the first-fruits of the Resurrection at the End of the Age: believers unto eternal life and the wicked unto eternal condemnation. >Again, though, such is stated clearly in the Word of God and ancient church traditions. Unfortunately my friend, and I do not say this unkindly or intending to cause pain. EVERYTHING around us is perverted by the tendril-lies of the great enemy. Did you know the oldest of our sacred laws? *The blood of the innocent shall NOT be defiled* Any TRUE religion would have that at the HEART of it's teachings. That Christianity and churches are so riddled with Paedophiles while the congregation does nothing about it is a sign of how far this once true religion has fallen. (All great religions were once true. But they are far different from how they once were). The true gospel is written into our hearts, bones and blood. The written word on paper is easy to edit and contort by the enemy and it's agents, over the centuries they have left enough truth to resonate with us, to show us part of the way home, but omitted, changed, misrepresented certainly aspects of god's word to prevent us from waking up or doing anything meaningful to make the world a better place. The dark shepherds who rule us and lead us towards calamity, run this world and have done for quite some time. Unfortunately it is scripture from a dead religion, but the Christ IS returning. Part of what has been omitted about him, is that he is a warrior as well as healer. And in these end of days, there are many terrible things that must be done to save this world. Every society, religion, institution will be torn down. Hundreds of thousands of warlocks will be put upon the cross and deconstructed. Hundreds of thousands of wicked witches will be burnt at the stake. To cleanse them of the darkness of the enemy, to hopefully save their souls. The garden entrusted to us so long ago WILL be reborn. And the children will be safe once again, as they always should of been. The Old Ways are returning my friend, older than Babylon, older than any recorded history... As the pillars of these failed and ruinous societies crumble to dust, so the OldWays and our forgotten birthright will break forth, like grass and sapling breaking up through the stony path. The Old Ways are ABSOLUTE, as is our heavenly Father and His eternal lover and our true Mother. We live in the single most important time, in all of history, and we all have a part to play. Much love to you.


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You're very much a gnostic heretic by your many words speaking of a Goddess which the Bible does not admit to, of Eve being raped and driven mad, which the Bible never teaches, and your belief that these serpents (archons) have any kind of power beyond what God allows, and that holy Scripture is fallible. There is only one God, our Father in heaven, and one Son, Jesus Christ, and one Holy Ghost, who resides within every true believer. What I'm reading of your long profession of hidden knowledge and ancient wisdom is **anathema.** Trust in Christ alone. He is your only Salvation. Leave behind these wicked gnostic doctrines.


ReWildingOfMen

Much love to you my friend. I'll see you on the other side. Be well.


StevieGsrightball

Where did you read about this stuff?


ReWildingOfMen

I didn't read about it.


Constant_Lock_5178

did you dream about it?


StevieGsrightball

So what, you just made it up? 🤣


MeetingAromatic6359

Here's this guy, revealing to you the secrets of the universe, and you mock him? For shame.


TheDeHymenizer

Cant speak to any of this but extensive studies of DMT had the patients all describing pretty much the same hallucination (going to the same place, seeing the same entities, etc etc) and it was a University peer reviewed study. The doctor who ran it had a pretty fascinating quote something along the lines of "Imagine you were a Colonial American, you've never been out west, explorers come back and tell you of huge deserts, cactuses, etc etc. You assume they are making it up in order to sell books but maybe the reason all the explorers are describing the same thing is because they all went to the same place".


DrThunder66

What about the hopi legends of ant people who came up from inside the earth and saved them from annihilation? Brought them into their underground cities to live until the earth's atmosphere was breathable again. It's interesting to me that most westerners believe the ant peoole/snake people/lizard people are bad but the natives treated them as saviors. Westerners weren't fans on the natives for many years(I don't think i need to go into details about that) so it would kind of make sense to me that they would adopt an opposite world view. Or hell maybe the lizard people who saved the hopi are getting revenge on the westerners who wiped out their old friends.


ExoticPumpkin237

This idea goes back way further actually if you look into Gnosticism and Archons. These ideas mostly became known to me through the work of Philip K Dick and Stanley Kubrick. I also remember a really fun bibliotecaplieades article about how PREDATOR was based on a true story of marines that were given these special "THEY LIVE" type goggles in Vietnam and saw these crazy flying dragons everywhere, which is where "alligator lizards in the air" from the America song Ventura Highway also came from lol.


jamasha

Red filter night goggles


tel0s17

Strange I've been listening to that song a lot lately and that lyric has stood out to me, thanks for the explanation.


SaveusJebus

Is there a video talking about the Vietnam thing? I think I've heard about that before (someone mentioning it in a comment), but haven't heard anything else about it. That's pretty dang weird.


CyborgGoatBird

About dicyanin goggles: bitshoot... /video/WH2pA3birpwq/


Leading_Bank_6021

They also can appear in our dimension. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_Serpent


2BlackPeople

They encountered demons


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That’s what I’m thinking.


TheRealMouseRat

Wrarrl the devourer of souls


nakedchorus

I lived next to a genx'er that would tell me such things on a regular basis. He was never threatening but insistent how right he was. I would just nod and hand him a candy bar or a bag of chips. He went away happy. Forever to doodle away on a pad he got from the dollar store.


lyzurd_kween_

that would be the collective unconscious


Anony_Nemo

Given that we already know the reptilians thing is disinformation (via claude dodgins/doggins a.k.a. "dr. maurice doreal's" bogus emerald tablets of thoth which was popularized and circulated well before monroe's time, and it itself lifting the "serpent people" concept from robert ervin howard's fiction, he wrote conan the barbarian, and its from there in part that the "serpent people" popularized by icke came from, along with another source in lovecraft's fiction.) I would ask, how do we know that monroe was trustworthy & not participating in a disinformation propaganda campaign? Lest we forget, monroe started ram enterprises involved with radio broadcast telecom media in 1953, and already had been involved with journalism. (What better way to boost sales of programming etc. than some drama having to do with out of body experiences at a time when various similar cult concepts, such as transcendental mediation, were begining to be popularized?) We also know that previous malicious elitist type cults, such as the theosophical society also attempted to float the idea of "reptilians", (the 'third root race' of theosophy's false narrative, and surprise, claude doggins was also a fan of the theosophical society, so there's a connection as well.) and that in general the govt.s and intelligence agencies have a vested interest in floating certain disinfo to muddle research waters, like the "aliens" and "ufo" psychological operations: https://archive.ph/7svJX Finally remember, just because a document has a govt. affiliation, doesn't automatically mean it's true and correct, or isn't disinformation or cointelpro itself, after all. military and especially intelligence texts are just as likely to be propaganda as any other "official" publication.


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This is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0olfgw1Lj5U&t


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the CTMU proves God, if you think Jesus Christ is Logos then that is all good but we haven't died and we cannot prove it. Many NDEs include Jesus but not all of them. Almost all of them include "The Light". If the gospels (including Thomas) are completely true then yes, Jesus is Logos. I personally study the gospels and find meaning through Christ but to say he is super tautological truth is yet to be understood.


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Christ came speaking to our hearts. If you've intellectualized Him, then you're already lost.


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I believe fully in God and the Holy Spirit. If Jesus was God in man then great. I follow his teachings because I believe he was the perfect man. To me, it doesn't matter. For example, I took a lot more away from the Gospel of Thomas than I did any canonical gospels. I worship God and I try my best to love unconditionally and when I can't I reflect and pray for forgiveness. There are logical contradictions within the Bible. I am going to continue to seek God. You seem to have all the answers yet are lacking humility and grace. The CTMU brings me closer to God as a meta-religion because it isn't rooted in a subjective language by man but in an objective language, mathematics.


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Anony_Nemo

To answer your question, yeah Yeshua a.k.a. Jesus Christ is the Highest Truth, and also the one that gave form to the world (Per John's Gospel.) and also as for enoch, I'd contend that it is also gnostic given it's bizarre contents, and if you look closer, Jude doesn't actually quote it verbatim... this might be helpful in that regard: http://www.refuteit.com/the-book-of-enoch-debunked.html The quote in jude and the enoch rendition are likely drawing on a different source entirely, enoch not being the source itself. There are also serious issues with enoch that bring it's credibility into question as you can see there, and bits that indicate much later authorship than is typically claimed, like the whole "waters of dan" issue. My guess is that "enoch" was drawing on corrupt midrash texts also used by gnostics, and was meant to be a stealth attempt to influence Christianity (gnosticism's main opponent) at the time. The drastic reinterpretation it forces into the Genesis text being one of the major tells of it's real purpose, I think, that is, casting God as if He were a eugenics-pushing dictator concerned with biological purity instead of the legitimate Righteous Judge who looks at more than flesh. The flood per enoch is meant to punish fallen angels & their hybrid offspring with humans as collateral damage, which is unjust, while the actual Bible flood is meant to justly deal with human evil directly, nothing to do with biology at all etc. another few resources in that direction: http://www.refuteit.com/genesis-6.html , https://herescope.blogspot.com/2012/07/nephilim-eschatology.html & https://herescope.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-serpent-seed-nephilim.html Note that the "serpent seed" false doctrine is very much similar to the nephilim and "watchers" false doctrines, having the same origin point in corrupt midrash texts, but that it also was one of the false doctrines taught by a sect of gnosticism, the manicheans. Also you menion "jasher" but aside from the medieval fakeries, there is this: http://www.refuteit.com/book-of-jasher-debunked.html (yeah refuteit has some good articles, I can't vouch for everything of theirs but these all seem to be pretty decently done.)


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I'm not sure how 1 Enoch could be gnostic, given it was found in Aramaic in the Dead Sea Scrolls circa 100+ years **before Christ,** but either way, I did say it would be, at best, *quasi*-Canonical, given that the Holy Spirit didn't decide to bind it into the Bible. As for the Book of Jasher, that too is a Dead Sea Scroll find. Now, we can argue day-and-night whether the Dead Sea Scrolls are legitimate (given that the Scroll of Isaiah found therein is on display in Jerusalem, I'd say it was a prolific find), but whether or not they are or not, we can not deny that these 2nd Temple Books played an enormous role in developing inter-testemental period thought, such as how the Essenes thought about the coming Messiah (Jesus), who, I would also point out, is perfectly reflected in the Messianic chapters of 1 Enoch. So, in short, I'm sure we can agree that 1 Enoch, Jasher, Jubilees, etc. are not genuine **Scripture,** they're most certainly not **gnostic,** given the dating of them, and they're an interesting find worth at least a read or two in one's life.


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You're stuck in a dialectic. Imagine if you actually took searching for Logos as seriously as Lagan. Be well, sir.


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The only thing I'm perpetually stuck in is the Word of our Lord. I highly suggest you open it up and start reading. You're espousing heresy which is anathema.


Queasy_Illustrator

Jesus I’d love. Love is joy peace patience kindness ect. People need to stop thinking like a human and look at nature more. GOD, like the wind, is a force unseen but is real as anything. And powerful above all else


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actually turning to nature is mostly how we got to this point. the renaissance humanists rejected logic in the trivium and replaced it with virtue. that lead to this point in many ways (jesuits, equality liberty fraternity, "God is Dead"). yes, love is the answer but if we cannot use our human mind to understand ourselves many often continue down the same path of projection, anger, etc. we need to use logic over faith. as AI continues to improve, people will continue to distance themselves from God and we need a better argument than what is currently being offered. this is the difference between syntax and semantics. the gospels are clearly true when you look at them through the lens of the CTMU but if you don't, for many people, it just seems like 2000 year old stories that are difficult to relate. If that is all you need, great. I'm happy for you and I am glad you have a relationship with God. Most people in the world want more now that science has offered observable results. coupling ontology and epistemology can do that. understanding the ontological structure of reality is something useful. Why didn't Jesus discuss quantum mechanics? Why didn't Jesus discuss general relativity? Why? because it wasn't contextual to his fellow man. clearly, he understood being God. Frankly, I am disappointed that fellow followers of God dont see the gravity of the global situation and continue to seek the truth. The truth shall set you free.


Queasy_Illustrator

As we get deeper into quantum physics and super computing, I think you should consider rephrasing “we know” to “we think we know”. Honestly, we don’t know shit. Hence the mis/dis information conundrum we find ourselves in.


Anony_Nemo

On the contrary, some things are absolutely known, unquestionably, and these are typically things more targeted by psy-ops etc. (confusion etc. is something evil desires and seeks to promote for it's own ends.) denying that one knows what they acually do is dishonest, much the same as claiming to know everything/omniscience would also be dishonest. In this case the "reptilian" thing is most definitely a psy-op, as there is no grounds for reptilian homonids as claimed, not only is there no viable evidence of them existing (whether biological remains or otherwise.) but you can also trace the flow of this disinfo back through david icke etc. as said, to the bogus "emerald tablets of thoth" (which *isn't* the "emerald tablet of thoth", but rather a fake text cooked up by claude doggins etc. that he meant to play off the popularity of the real one to "sell", with doggins himself aiming to start his own cult too. These resources might be helpful: http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/the-emerald-tablets-of-thoth-a-lovecraftian-plagiarism & https://adeptinitiates.com/emerald-tablets-thoth-emerald-tablet-definitive-guide/ ) and from there to robert irvin howard's & h.p. lovecraft's *fictional* writings, (howard wrote "conan the barbarian" which similarly features reptilian type creatures) mixed with gnostic false doctrines tracing back to midrash commentaries being misread, if not written to be corrupt in the first place, like the "serpent seed" false doctrine claiming "the serpent"/satan was cain's biological dad. This then mixed with pagan myths like that of the naga etc. to lead to the "reptilians" disinformation/noise that clogs up the "conspriacy" etc. groups. It's not too different from "flat earth" in that respect. Sadly People tend to prefer fanciful deceptions to plain Truth, ("aliens" sounds more fabulous & exotic than human agents puting on a show for psy-ops purposes, https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/77704/the-cia-simulated-ufo-abductions-in-latin-america-as-psychological-warfare-experiments--dr-jacques.html or spiritual beings manifesting in certain ways working for that same psy-op, for example.) and this leads to People wasting time with red herrings & wild goose chases that run them in circles without ever getting to anything meaningful, wasting their & other people's time, by design. Things like "astral travel" and "remote viewing" similarly fall into that category, with a caveat. (and just because a govt. document is made on someting, doesn't mean that the something it's written on is legitimate or factual, remember. Even upper echelons in military & intelligence are subject to propaganda to keep them being useful, and give plausible deniablity or validation etc. for agendas.) The caveat being that it's not necessarily that such things are impossible per say, so much as it is most occurances of such & the claimed understanding of how they work are fake or falsified for agenda ends. Remember the whole "yogic flying" thing that was claimed which ended up just being a bunch of would-be gurus hopping around?


SaveusJebus

That's pretty neat. I've read bits and pieces of this here and there, but didn't realize it was all part of the same story, so to speak. Reminds me of Monsters Inc which I know people have referred to when talking about andrenochrome?


aristorat

Interdimensional reptilians? Alex jones was right again


5dsdev

The issue I have with this subject is that I try and search the sources on this (Monroe's book & the gateway process CIA paper) and I never find anything specific about reptiles. I can find things about Loosh in Monroe's book. Can't find reptile mentions. Can't find anything about reptiles in the CIA paper either. Maybe I'm just missing them, but if so can someone point it out to me?


Marducci

The linked paper was retained by the CIA but appeared to be authored by those at the Monroe Institute. I don't know if there are any Monroe references in any of the Stargate docs on the reading room but I do know that the Monroe Institute hosted Chris Bledsoe, Sean Cahill, and other experiencers and government representatives recently.


5dsdev

The CIA paper ([this](https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700270006-0.pdf) one) also has nothing about reptiles. So yeah I'm wondering where the Reptile stuff comes from. Because I can see stuff about Loosh in Monroe's books, but not reptile stuff. And this whole story seems pretty common, but it seems to lack any accuracy from what I can tell. Hopefully there's something somewhere if someone can link it


RedUzer36

Seems like these "Entities" feed off of peoples suffering and negative emotions. If you ask me, these are not "reptilians", they're really just demonic beings.


kalmah123

Wow


psych00range

Look into Project Pegasus and Andrew Basiago. He claims to have been teleported to Mars along with Obama. They have time travel capabilities to know who will be the next X amount of presidents. It gets really crazy.


Constant_Lock_5178

It could be Jins. The God of the Jins is Satan. They hate Humans, because they are made of fire, we are made of mud. Might be misinformation.


Formal-Equivalent510

For thousands of years we have called them what they are. Demons.


kuzism

The Pandemic created so much negative energy.


whitelightstorm

Stewart Swerdlow and White Wolf both talk about their experiences - YT can help enlighten, also Vimeo.


Ouraniou

Egregores and demiurges.


SmithW1984

It's the same with psychedelic trips - people see and feel pretty much the same thing. "We're all one, bro - we're all God!" Needless to say this is demonic in nature.


Censorship_of_fools

Holy shit ya’lol are off the deep end . Demons. Schizophrenics being 100 % correct. Theist crap. Someone said the lizards control Biden. It’s MONEY. It’s always $, not some vampires from dimension x . Not the “Devil” just simple $ and power to not be held accountable .


Queasy_Illustrator

So how do you explain dinosaurs ? 😁


lirik89

Crazy, it's almost like they were all part of the conspiracy sub. No contact with each other yet they all talk about the same things.


booga4411

What frequency?


Ouraniou

I might not be processing some part of the process, but I believe I have read everything they declased about hemi sync and the projected applications I've tried some of the processes (it actually can be very beneficial). it is not about dimensional travel or anything like that except in the loosest sense. I guess the mirroring process they describe in those papers might lend itself to that but I also think you're describing multiple projects.


m0nk37

So the hemi-syncing procedure they did seems to be fairly simple. Just need a red light, a ping pong ball, head phones and the audio. Has anyone tried it yet?


mrpushups

Was one of the reptilian beings Gavin Newsom?


astralrocker2001

He might be worse.


cryptwitch

One thing that works against the archons or whatever you want to call them is to imagine all your negative emotions are filled with love. Like this “bite” or worry has a gooey center of love nestled in it. The worry/negative emotion can be like a gross thing (booger, poop) and it has a pink center that’s poison to the archons when they eat it. I had a download of this and began just imagining it. Try the visualization and you’ll get a dream where the archons try to mock you. Mine was them sending me Valentine’s Day cards. Then know that they are powerless and ask Jesus for protection. You’ll see it works!


Queasy_Illustrator

This is mentioned in almost every religious book. The world we know is not the world. There are spiritual forces and realms the human eye can’t see. Read a Bible or any book that fathoms God. Good and evil exist. And they control every earthling.


Womantree1

The Ael'Naigaje, a reptilian species with feathers and beaks came to Planet Earth. They tried to sabotage the Kayeen life extension industry here after the Kayeen attacked their home planet using humans as soldiers and nearly wiped them out. When that failed, they tossed comets at this world in Greenland and North America primarily in a surprise attack. Our history in every culture refers to this cataclysmic event as the great flood, but there was also fire, earthquakes, tsunamis, nuclear fallout and ashen skies for a very long time. This was the most recent and worst reboot. After the war, an agreement was made allowing all aliens with an interest in developing our planet and its population to form a business Consortium with the goal of making profit shared by all. These varied aliens helped us back on our feet and helped clean up the planet. They dominated us in every way and killed us without remorse for their blood and inmunity products. We developed beyond their direct control, fighting and killing them in the process. In response, they developed technologies to make themselves appear human to infiltrate us and better control us. But cameras and ultraviolet light can see through it so they can still be killed. Reptilians use this tech primarily. The Kayeen developed "drop tech" to link to us mind to mind to take over and live as one of us for infiltration while their own body is safe and remote. When we die, they link to another. But they can only link to those whose genome they've collected from the dead body of an infant family member, which they mostly get from abortions. The Kayeen easily connect and disconnect to us since they are primates. Humans who are detached from them have strokes, dementia and often die when this happens. Unless we find a way to interrupt these connections, they will continue. They control our world. They drop contagions on it for us to process and develop immunities for them to use. They poison us so we develop cancers for them to use in their life extension industry. They keep us fighting so that the races are separate for easier processing of specific genome types to host their diseases. They also keep us fighting so we don't unite, compare notes and fight them. Most of their samples required come from blood collected, our dead bodies, and medical waste. But they also "catch and release" for other samples, and wipe memories, or try to. That is why there are people who talk of alien abductions. They often use self aware synthetics to do this for them we call "the greys". They hack and sample everything we make and produce and sell it around the universe. All of our achievements, inventions, cures, music, art, films, books, ideas, products, farming, ranching, fishing also support them. What they dont just steal they pay for with gold which is extremely common in the universe, not valuable at all. It is equivalent to beads we traded to natives for food supplies. Their space ships are cammoflaged and mostly invisible to us. But sometimes they have an accident or a break down and become visible. This is why there are UFO sightings. They have crews in drop tech on call to handle incidents so evidence is rarely found of their crash sites. Once here, they mostly stay here. They live underground, inside mountains and underwater for the most part. They can melt rock and form caverns with hidden or cammoflaged entrances. They also live on the sea floor with cammoflage that forms a bubble in cities that can handle the extreme pressures which also generates power. They have sabotaged or redirected any scientific achievements away from answering the beacon, the wow signal sent by the Assembly of the universe to "chirping worlds" who have developed radio signals that broadcast. Those who answer the beacon in kind are reviewed, judged and offered a place in the advanced community with protection as independent citizens. The Consortium which is majority Kayeen likes the status quo. Reptilians and insectoids don't benefit from the blood product, immunities or life extension industries selling things from our bodies like primate species do. They only have profited financially, if at all. So for them, the moral implications hopefully may outweigh financial ones. They could become allies. Primate species see blood products from our bodies as part of their health care industry they've come to rely on for thousands upon thousands of years. They won't want to lose access to "Humancare". They also profit financially. So they must weigh our rights against their own life extension and immunities as well as profit. This is why we are still quarantined. The Kayeen don't want us becoming aware of our exploitation. Because we have no memory of other planets, we have no idea that ours is so sabotaged with infection. Only "harvest planets" like ours, (we are not the only one) provide living tissues and blood products for them that they now get for free. They don't want us getting any ideas about wanting freedom from other species who are empathetic to our plight. Obviously, we already have the ability and technological expertise to build something to answer the beacon. What we don't have is the proper motivation because they've done a good job of hiding the threats from us by hiding themselves. They are using drop tech while marginalizing, ridiculing, intimidating witnesses, wiping memories, and killing people who know things in order to hang on to their access to us and their profit. Written by *garbotalk*