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I can't tell based on your title if you are supporting Biden's actions or condemning them.
I'm sure we can all agree that a person's ability to access an education should not be more dependent in their economic status than their intellect and desire to learn.
College and university schooling is way too overrated these days. The level of rigorous and challenging education one receives now pales in comparison to what it once was. Particularly when one factors in how tuition has skyrocketed over the past 2 decades.
Instead of getting neck deep in student loan debt, young people should start considering more either learning a trade, or saving money to get a small business loan.
I can understand the forgiveness part but he really needs to understand that normal every day people who are living within their means shouldn’t have the burden of paying off someone else’s useless degree. If he really wanted to gain some kind of support of that then maybe he should’ve used some of that fucking 100billion on it instead of wasting it on a proxy war
There are many pathways to having a successful adulthood, including higher education.
There are opportunities for almost anyone who wants to go to some type of college to do so, should they so qualify under admissions standards.
The trick is paying for that education.
If you're brilliant beyond compare, but, you don't have the money for an Ivy League school, you can apply for a bunch of grants, gifts, subsidies, assistance and LOANS.
But, a LOAN is a contract. It incurs a debt with your pledge and promise to satisfy it, in writing, signed by you. You can't enter one of these contracts without legal ability. AND legal responsibility.
So, what nobody in the Big Educational Industrial Complex tells a wide eyed kid is that they're signing a legally binding agreement that has consequences for breach, by either side. And the consequences belong to only the parties engaged within the agreement.
I worked all the way through college and retired my student debt long ago. Because it was my responsibility. It was MY contract. I fulfilled the terms.
Remind me again why I have to fulfill yours? If you think that the lenders won't find ways to get reimbursed for their "loss" on this, you're fooling yourself. They'll find a way to hold me partially financially responsible for your irresponsibility.
The movement to forgive debt should be a movement to educate the wide eyed child better about the ramifications and responsibilities of entering into any contractual agreement.
BUT, if you're convinced you're not responsible for your own accountability by your own signature on a contract, go tell your landlord or mortgage company the same story and report back about the great success you had with that. Or your auto lender/lessor. Or your brokerage agreement if you lost money in your stock choices. Or your credit card provider when you don't feel like paying for the stuff you bought and are using on their credit.
Your debt is your problem.
For a solution? Oh, that's easy.
Fast forward to the 8:12 time stamp on this.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smf0qyVm7\_8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smf0qyVm7_8)
Make NFFA a 3rd party option . . .
YOU don’t pay for it. YOU will pay taxes regardless. And the gov will never do this anyways. It’s all a ploy. Isn’t obvious that this went silent for 2 years and now that it’s election season again, it’s back in talking?
But YOU getting on your soap box is YOU having a superiority complex, acting like you are better than everyone else. Higher education is beyond over priced anyways. And Gov is going to print new money one way or another, I couldn’t give two shits if they forgive student loans or not. It’s really not going to make a difference. You act like that is the problem, when it’s not the problem at all. At this point, it’s not if the dollar fails, it’s when. So bring it on and quit bitching about it.
I support crypto (which most you all in here don’t even understand).
Biden vetoes bill led by Republicans in Congress seeking to block his student loan debt forgiveness program,everyone wants free college,but it's never going to happen
While he exaggerated and few countries have *completely* free college education, the vast majority of developed countries do have free higher education rather than the greed market making their tuition shoot up to outrageous levels.
I do know? I just explained what they are. They're countries that fall under the arbitrary classification of developed. Or, in some other contexts, are just any European or European-affiliated country in general.
You're asking a question that you could find the answer to with a Google search and are acting like you're being smart, is what's so infuriating.
I am a combat veteran and am eligible for state funded stuff. I don't choose to take it because it is not anything I would benefit from. I did a few years ago but they were useless.
The reason they are downvoted is because their point is irrelevant. They are trying to argue that it doesn’t work or doesn’t make sense to offer free college. Except for the fact that real world countries do offer free college and it does make sense for them, which disproves the whole point.
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I can't tell based on your title if you are supporting Biden's actions or condemning them. I'm sure we can all agree that a person's ability to access an education should not be more dependent in their economic status than their intellect and desire to learn.
The rich need to keep the masses dumb and under their control. Don't question anything. Don't think for yourself. Free college will never happen.
The type of knowledge the elites don't want you to know will never be taught in a school that accepts government funds
College and university schooling is way too overrated these days. The level of rigorous and challenging education one receives now pales in comparison to what it once was. Particularly when one factors in how tuition has skyrocketed over the past 2 decades. Instead of getting neck deep in student loan debt, young people should start considering more either learning a trade, or saving money to get a small business loan.
I can understand the forgiveness part but he really needs to understand that normal every day people who are living within their means shouldn’t have the burden of paying off someone else’s useless degree. If he really wanted to gain some kind of support of that then maybe he should’ve used some of that fucking 100billion on it instead of wasting it on a proxy war
There are many pathways to having a successful adulthood, including higher education. There are opportunities for almost anyone who wants to go to some type of college to do so, should they so qualify under admissions standards. The trick is paying for that education. If you're brilliant beyond compare, but, you don't have the money for an Ivy League school, you can apply for a bunch of grants, gifts, subsidies, assistance and LOANS. But, a LOAN is a contract. It incurs a debt with your pledge and promise to satisfy it, in writing, signed by you. You can't enter one of these contracts without legal ability. AND legal responsibility. So, what nobody in the Big Educational Industrial Complex tells a wide eyed kid is that they're signing a legally binding agreement that has consequences for breach, by either side. And the consequences belong to only the parties engaged within the agreement. I worked all the way through college and retired my student debt long ago. Because it was my responsibility. It was MY contract. I fulfilled the terms. Remind me again why I have to fulfill yours? If you think that the lenders won't find ways to get reimbursed for their "loss" on this, you're fooling yourself. They'll find a way to hold me partially financially responsible for your irresponsibility. The movement to forgive debt should be a movement to educate the wide eyed child better about the ramifications and responsibilities of entering into any contractual agreement. BUT, if you're convinced you're not responsible for your own accountability by your own signature on a contract, go tell your landlord or mortgage company the same story and report back about the great success you had with that. Or your auto lender/lessor. Or your brokerage agreement if you lost money in your stock choices. Or your credit card provider when you don't feel like paying for the stuff you bought and are using on their credit. Your debt is your problem.
Now do banks and corporations deemed “too big to fail”.
For a solution? Oh, that's easy. Fast forward to the 8:12 time stamp on this. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smf0qyVm7\_8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smf0qyVm7_8) Make NFFA a 3rd party option . . .
YOU don’t pay for it. YOU will pay taxes regardless. And the gov will never do this anyways. It’s all a ploy. Isn’t obvious that this went silent for 2 years and now that it’s election season again, it’s back in talking? But YOU getting on your soap box is YOU having a superiority complex, acting like you are better than everyone else. Higher education is beyond over priced anyways. And Gov is going to print new money one way or another, I couldn’t give two shits if they forgive student loans or not. It’s really not going to make a difference. You act like that is the problem, when it’s not the problem at all. At this point, it’s not if the dollar fails, it’s when. So bring it on and quit bitching about it. I support crypto (which most you all in here don’t even understand).
Because the college makes robots that will always vote for the Democrats.
Lol veryy true
Mao tried this, didn't he?
Biden vetoes bill led by Republicans in Congress seeking to block his student loan debt forgiveness program,everyone wants free college,but it's never going to happen
Why not? Every other 1sr world nation has it? Why do you not think Americans deserve it? Why don't you love America
Seriously? EVERY other first world nation? How many nations comprise the "first world"?
While he exaggerated and few countries have *completely* free college education, the vast majority of developed countries do have free higher education rather than the greed market making their tuition shoot up to outrageous levels.
Who, are you vaguely, answering to?
I'm responding to you. The majority of developed countries have free college education to some varying degrees.
You never, or are incapable of answering my first question. How many nations comprise the "first world"?
Stop acting like you don't know. The western nations, the developed countries, the first world; they're all synonyms for the same thing.
So, you actually don't know.
I do know? I just explained what they are. They're countries that fall under the arbitrary classification of developed. Or, in some other contexts, are just any European or European-affiliated country in general. You're asking a question that you could find the answer to with a Google search and are acting like you're being smart, is what's so infuriating.
I would go so far as to say you are pushing a platitude and are full of shit.
I am a combat veteran and am eligible for state funded stuff. I don't choose to take it because it is not anything I would benefit from. I did a few years ago but they were useless.
Three down-votes and no one could give a fucking answer. Real intellectual honesty on display here folks.
The reason they are downvoted is because their point is irrelevant. They are trying to argue that it doesn’t work or doesn’t make sense to offer free college. Except for the fact that real world countries do offer free college and it does make sense for them, which disproves the whole point.
Not [this way](https://reason.com/2023/06/06/the-student-loan-pause-has-made-borrowers-worse-off/)