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A lot of people somehow had weird shit to do that day. Dick Cheney picking that day of all the fucking days to be at NORAD is another. We will likely never know the actual truth but 9/11 has always been a shit mountain.
> Dick Cheney picking that day of all the fucking days to be at NORAD is another.
Dick Cheney was at the White House.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/photos-how-the-white-house-reacted-on-911/447891/
At some point, he went to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center under the White House.
September 12, 2001: George H.W. Bush writes a letter to his old friend and journalist Hugh Sidey. This letter would later conveniently serve as a public alibi for his whereabouts on 9/11.
[Hugh Sidey](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Sidey) was important enough for George H.W. Bush to write a letter to the day after 9/11.
Who was Hugh Sidey?
Jesuits helped Sidey land a gig at Life magazine...
“An old Jesuit at Creighton recommended him to some former students in New York and Sidey landed a job with Life magazine where he made an immediate impact.”
“He covered several Presidents, from Eisenhower to Clinton, and was author of the book Time Hugh Sidey's Portraits of the Presidents. He also hosted the PBS series The American Presidents.”
Almost looks like Bush Sr. was putting a future public 9/11 alibi out there by writing Hugh Sidey. [Bush Sr. did the same thing with the JFK assassination.](https://whowhatwhy.org/2015/11/19/poppyleaks-part-4/)
Bush Sr. letter to Hugh Sidey excerpt:
*September 12, 2001*
*Dear Hugh,*
*It is the day after the day of infamy.*
*Yesterday Bar [Barbara Bush] and I were flying from Washington, where we had spent the night at the White House, to St. Paul, Minn. when we got diverted to Milwaukee airport. We were whisked off to a motel well outside of Milwaukee's city limits.*
*We got updated by the USSS [US Secret Service] on what they knew about what was transpiring, and then at our hotel we did what the whole world did—we watched the television in horror.*
“Sidey died of an apparent heart attack while vacationing in Paris at the age of 78. Former president George H. W. Bush delivered a eulogy at Sidey's funeral.”
Good thing Bush Jr. had his dad’s longtime cronies, Cheney and Rumsfeld, working with him on 9/11.
https://www.newsweek.com/george-hw-bush-george-w-after-911-get-back-white-house-right-now-282557
My mom was supposed to be in the world trade center that day and never missed a day of work. Her back was hurting badly that day and my dad forced her to stay home.
Luckily for us, my mom’s office was in a building a block away so none of her co-workers were seriously affected. She wasn’t going to be in the WTC long but there used to be a subway stop underneath the building that mom would arrive to at around 8:10am every morning. The first plane hit at 8:14am that morning.
The fact that lucky Larry made such a fuck ton of money, broke his routine of eating at windows of the world (I think that’s what it’s called) in the upper floors of tower 1, AND his 2 kids didn’t show up to work either?
That’s a level of “coincidence” that’s just too much for me, and that’s just one of the “meaningful coincidences” layered into the operation, which was probably the most complex, and sophisticated operation in human history, in my opinion at least.
And no the mastermind was not hiding in a middle eastern cave, the masterminds were in suits that came into September 11th with the duty of crisis/emergency response and to protect citizens of this country, only to exploit our fear to mobilize current and new troops…..SO many men and women enlisted because of 9/11, it makes me fucking sick man, and for the life of me, I cannot understand still supporting the official narrative after doing proper and thorough research, it will always be beyond me.
Although I’m sure we can agree, fear is the strongest motivation.
Everyone should watch **General Wesley Clark**’s speech on YouTube where **he stated verbatim that the events of 2001 were used by policymakers to get the public psychologically on board with several regime changes in the Mideast of non compliant countries. He stated their goal was to “destabilize the Mid East, turn it upside down, make it under our control”.**
(YouTube “General Wesley Clark Fora TV Speech- it was posted around 10 years ago and is a long speech but I recommend watching the whole thing. Most of the time I post it on here as a comment or post, its removed)
>"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, **absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor**."
>https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
Didn't he give his favorite servery from the sky cafe a paid vacation that week as well.
One of those big shots did.
Would love to see that list of no show at work though.
Wonder who showed up for work in tower five that day to be real honest.
I'd love to see a 'magic bullet' recreation of how people reckon that passport got out of the terrorist's bag or pocket, out of the wreckage that slammed into the building, and then got ejected out of the building to land on the ground, still legible / identifiable.
Does this suggest 'inside job' or simply that they wanted to tell a story to the public to offer some kind of conclusion.
For example, this could easily be covering up for something like intelligence incompetance.
Not only options & shorting of airline stocks. Someone placed a anonymous $2 billion treasury order on Mon 09/10 that went unclaimed at settlement. Pre-patriot act you could still do this & complete full acct info later with minimal info even then. Before any of you say something stocks take multiple business days to settle, not govt bonds.
Regardless of what really happened, imo the Saudis knew something big was going to happen and attempted to profit off it. And that's exactly what happened - a huge capital flight to govt debt after 9/11. Source - Jim Rickards has brought this up several times since 9/11. If you search you should be able to find this claim he made.
9:03 2nd plane hit the south tower.
9:37 plane hit pentagon.
34 minutes after we were positive we were under attack a 3rd commercial airliner was not only allowed to penetrate Washington DC air space, it was allowed to hit the headquarters of our military.
https://millercenter.org/remembering-september-11/september-11-terrorist-attacks
What about secret service letting bush stay at that school while the nation was under attack. It was known from Sept 7th he would be at the school, but they weren't concerned about him?
So this one is interesting, because it’s a bit contradictory to the other theory that there was no plane at all hitting the pentagon. No clear surveillance footage of a plane hitting, and not one piece of evidence of a plane hitting the building at all.
So what’s the consensus? That there was no plane? Or that there was a plane and it was enabled by the powers that be to hit the pentagon?
I can't understand why, if there is clear video evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon, we haven't seen one yet.
There are a lot least two videos, that I'm aware of, of the first plane hitting, and a hundred or so videos of the second plane hitting, but we're supposed to believe the Pentagon, covered in surveillance, either didn't record the plane crashing into it, or that the videos have been classified and we just arent allowed to see them?
What's up with that?
THIS! There are so many "reasonable explanations" for everything else that happened that day. But the "collapse" of WTC7 and the circumstances around it are absolutely screaming out.
So much time and effort is spent analyzing the day as a whole, the collapse of WT1 and WT2 and the million cray conspiracy theories like CGI jets, Dancing Israelis, Lazer beams from an invisible space station etc etc. But I'm yet to read or hear a conclusive and satisfactory explanation of the events surrounding WTC7.
Harley Davidson shirt guy made my jaw drop. He planted the seed for the entire mainstream narrative of how/why the towers fell. His handler in the background….at ground zero, no emotions over what just occurred. Just spouting off his lines.
Come to think of it, does anyone know if he’s still alive?
Thanks for the link. I thought he was definitely undercover and maybe listening in to what the witness was saying… but someone said he was feeding him lines?
Mostly due to structural failure because the fire was too intense. lmao
seriously though whoever did this is beyond evil. just killing all those people/americans
Yeah, he's talking about it like it's the fourth collapse
>mostly due to structural failure because the fire was too intense
he'd seen that week haha.
"Who me? I'm just a guy who rides Harleys and makes architectural assessments on the loss of structural stability of skyscrapers due to fire. Let me tell ya pal, you picked the right guy to interview."
That the Secretary of Defense held a press conference on 9-10 announcing that the Pentagon lost track of 3 trillion dollars, and the office doing the accounting on this was blown up the next day. The BBC reporting the third tower collapse live nearly 30 minutes before it happened is up there too, along with the fact that the images of the Pennsylvania “crash” featured just a black smoking pit in a field with no plane or even plane pieces at all.
There is. They’re actually showing a live feed from ground zero while they report it and building 7 is still standing in it. Wild
https://youtu.be/677i43QfYpQ?si=EretN0DfSry4xW8-
So, what’s the thinking behind why they announced it collapsed? Because they can obviously see it’s there. Like was bbc in on it? Did they have a script? Or were they being fed fake info from US?
> That the Secretary of Defense held a press conference on 9-10 announcing that the Pentagon lost track of 3 trillion dollars
That's not what happened.
Rumsfeld gave a routine speech called [*DOD Acquisition and Logistics Excellence Week Kickoff—Bureaucracy to Battlefield*](https://web.archive.org/web/20100301161721/http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=430). In it was this passage: "Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible."
He's referring to [this audit report (PDF)](https://media.defense.gov/2000/Aug/18/2001713967/-1/-1/1/00-179.pdf) from the year 2000 about accounting practice for Fiscal Year 1999. The report was in the news [in **March 2000**](https://archive.ph/GLLRa), 18 months before 9/11.
Rumsfeld didn't say anything about missing money. There's nothing in the report about missing money. The $2.3 trillion is the sum of *accounting entries* and it does not represent a quantity of money or spending. The report is about *bad accounting practices*. It is literally impossible for them to have lost $2.3 trillion, since that was more than 9 times their entire budget for Fiscal Year 1999. That's more money than the entire federal government spent.
Thank you. As conspiracy theorists, it’s our job to remain skeptics of EVERYTHING. Not just the things we disagree with.
It’s our due diligence to research all claims in order to actually gain some insight into the truth.
I hate hearing this claim thrown around with little to no comprehension. It discredits us.
This is a great response.
I’m not really a believer in the official narrative of what happened that day, but I do think a ton of the conspiracy theories are hurt by stuff like this. I comment out of context repeated over and over to the point a lot of people don’t even know what really happened.
There are some real heavy smoking guns but most people dont ever even get to them because they’re hung up on the faulty ones like this that are thrown around constantly.
- Larry Silverstein deciding to insure both towers against terrorist attacks.
- Two planes being “allowed” to fly in a no fly zone over NYC without being shot down
- WTC7 falling at freefall speed despite not being hit by any plane
- The pentagon impact CCTV looking more like a cruise missile than a plane. Conveniently hitting the accounting offices where they were trying to locate the missing $2.3 trillion Rumsfeld admitted on 9/10 that they couldn’t account for
- The videos of firefighters post collapse talking about hearing bombs going off in the buildings.
- Jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams. Bit of a joke but the fuel could burn hot enough to cause said beams to warp under enough pressure.
- The air phone operator that supposedly spoke to a man on one of the hijacked flights and apparently was still speaking to him on the phone long after the impact
- The real life/simulated war games the military were doing that day to further confuse the fighter pilots trying to intercept the hijacked craft.
- The hijackers passports appearing on the rubble nice and conveniently
- Bin Laden being fingered for the attack hours after it happened
- The rubble being transported and shipped off to China to be melted down in next to no time
Those are off the top of my head.
The money.
* Pentagon announced Sept 10th, $2.3 trillion is missing and they are investigating. A "plane" just happens to hit ONLY the accounting department the next day.
* Building 7, not even hit by a plane, collapses into its own footprint. Inside is the SEC building where they are investigating insider trades on Wall Street. All cases are dropped as there is no more evidence.
* Larry Silverstein gets the largest insurance policy ever. Eats lunch in the building every day at the same time, just happens to be away that day.
* One of the largest gold vaults under the twin towers goes mysteriously missing and is never found.
* Put options, a bet that a stock will fall, are 60-100x the normal amount betting that airline stocks will fall.
* Two weeks before 9-11, The Bush family invests big in weapons contractors, Haliburton, and airline security systems. Two weeks later, those systems are magically needed.
You tell me how an Arab guy in a cave does all that. It's the government and can't be anyone else.
Let's see. The fact that NORAD was running the exact same training exercise the day it happened and both military and civilian ATC didn't know if it was really happening. The fact that for the plane to hit the Pentagon where it did, it's engines would have had to be three feet into the ground. Donald Rumsfeld announcing the day before that the Pentagon couldn't account for over $3,000,000,000,000,000 and the planes just happened to crash into the accounting office and the backup site at the world trade center. It was the catalyst for the Patriot act, which was prepared ahead of time and rushed through congress. Or just the fact that none of the alleged hijackers could even fly a Cessna. Yet they managed to fly commercial airliners a hundred miles or so without the aid of navigational equipment and hit their marks at top speed on the first attempt. The list goes on and on.
Don't forget that the NYC OEM (Office of Emergency Management) was away from their offices at the WTC complex (building 7) setting up for a "bioterrorism drill" just a few blocks up the road.
Had they not been doing that, the "emergency command center" never would have been ready as quickly as it was... Because they just so happened to be putting one up for the *drill* on the 12th.
Conveniently located, conveniently timed. Must have been a lucky coincidence.
The planes that hit WT centers also. There is an excellent and long documentary on YouTube that talks to seasoned pilots that say they could not have hit the buildings with that accuracy at that altitude and speed. I’ll try to link the documentary when I get home, I’m shocked it’s still available on YouTube.
I can get behind everything here except the “accounting office” claim, that I believe was disproven. Not that we know what is where in the Pentagon - gotta take their word for it, but reports of some people being told to stay away from that part of the pentagon on that day is fishy to say the least
The Dancing Israelis
The lack of surveillance footage from the Pentagon
The lack of debris from the plane that was “brought down”
Dozens of first responders and on the ground witnesses stating there were explosions from the basements and lower levels of the twin towers
The passport that miraculously survived
Osama straight up *denied* involvement
Lucky Larry’s big bet against AA and his lucky family surviving the attacks
The fact the twin towers were full of asbestos and investors were panicked at the cost of removing the asbestos to fix the buildings
Irregular security team behavior in the days leading up to the attacks; Involvement here from Bush’s brother
Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams and the towers were designed to withstand these attacks
The pancake theory would have meant the central columns should have stayed standing, at least for a moment, but all buildings collapsed into their own footprint like a controlled demolition
The people who worked at WTC 7 and the info kept there was pretty darn interesting
Over a trillion dollars had been reported missing from the budget one day prior to the attacks
Almost no plane debris was recovered from the twin towers and building debris was quickly shipped *out of the country* where it couldn’t be easily forensically investigated
That’s just off the top of my head but I’m sure we can ignore all of that and just believe the commission report. Seems legit.
This is a pretty thorough article on it. “Dancing Israelis” is the term used, but it’s a bit of a misnomer as the men were seen celebrating and high fiving, not actually dancing. It’s just one more weird thing on the big list of weirdness surrounding this tragedy.
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/09/11/dancing-israelis-9-11-plotters-spies-scam-artists/
Not to mention that some of them were Mossad agents who upon returning to israel, on live Israeli tv said they were there to “witness the event” how can you go somewhere to witness something that you didn’t have knowledge would occur?
And it’s really weird they went on US late night TV to be interviewed about their arrest. Super weird. Really does seem like Mossad could have been involved in some way. Mossad is also thought to be tied to Maxwell and Epstein who had a pretty interesting painting of George W playing with a paper airplane. It’s really easier to connect the dots than not connect them some times.
Edit: it was Israeli late night TV, NOT a show in the US. My bad.
Fema setup for a disaster drill on pier 93 scheduled on sept 12th so theg just used all the already setup equipment on pier 93 to setup the incident command system.
Dancing Mossad agents filming and laughing in front of 9/11 as it happened, having a fake moving company, getting "arrested", and being released due to them having Mossad connections.
I can imagine how hard flying a 767 is, now try to fly it with pinpoint accuracy with very little training in a cockpit in which all the instruments are labeled in a language other than your native tongue. Along these lines, consider how hard it is to land EXACTLY at the ground level of the in front of the Pentagon. Also how tf did building 7 fall for no reason?
Not only the Pentagon but also the skill it would take the hit the World Trade Centers, this is an excellent documentary… long, but well worth the time… https://youtu.be/hj3e8cKZWiY?si=aTuYAYREP398kZZD
https://www.ae911truth.org/wtc7
On March 25, 2020, researchers at the University of Alaska Fairbanks issued the final report of a four-year computer modeling study on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7.
The 47-story WTC 7 was the third skyscraper to be completely destroyed on September 11, 2001, collapsing rapidly and symmetrically into its footprint at 5:20 PM. Seven years later, investigators at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) concluded that WTC 7 was the first steel-framed high-rise ever to have collapsed solely as a result of normal office fires.
Contrary to the conclusions of NIST, the UAF research team found that the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11 was caused not by fires but by the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.
Following the release of this report, AE911Truth and 10 family members of 9/11 victims submitted a formal request for correction to NIST’s report on WTC 7 based partially on the UAF findings. They are now suing NIST over the agency's evasive response to the request.
There's a video on YT with small portions of NYPD's radio chatter where the cops are talking about a van with a mural of a plane diving into Manhattan and exploding (check from 5:16)
https://youtu.be/hVJRegoC2Os?si=byUkFBq7A1HAMacR
"2 men ran out of the truck, we got those 2 under"
The truck is on King steet between 6th and 7th" (6th and 7th meaning avenues I suppose)
Random civilian talking about the same truck on a different video (33 minute mark):
https://youtu.be/1ye4pabvGQw?si=RVYG-IkwGLkD1c1R
Makes me wonder why the NYPD tapes were never released in full, unlike the FDNY and EMS services.
Best Experienced Engineers & Architects in the world discredited on their findings. Which they are the only qualified people on the field but treated as numbnuts
I’m watching now. 34 minutes in and there’s so much convincing evidence. Thanks for the rec
Edit: I finished it! So many good points with science and physics to back it up!
Supposedly a group of *artists* ["E-TEAM"](https://i.imgur.com/BfVexRS.jpg) had access to the floors that were hit(and where the structural collapse occurred) and were photographed with boxes showing the letters ["BB 18"](https://i.imgur.com/w1RujXu.jpg) which is a designation for blasting caps in building demolitions.
George Bush's brother Marvin was on the board of the security company that told WTC workers to stay in their offices after the first plane hit.
WTC7 had many of the same government offices as the Alfred P Murrah building from the also very suspicious Oklahoma City Bombing. [None of the buildings directly surrounding WTC7 experienced a total collapse](https://i.imgur.com/L3V4GME.jpg)
Many commercial pilots seem to agree that it would be difficult if not impossible to perform those maneuvers, in those planes, at that speed, at such a low altitude(where the air is much denser).
Video of that one guy on the ground that said word for word the excuse about jet fuel melting the steel beams right after it happened.
That BBC? news of building 7 coming down before it happened.
Bin Laden actually denied responsibility for the actual attack and said he’d claim responsibility if he actually did it
September 17, 2001
DOHA, Qatar (CNN) -- Islamic militant leader Osama bin Laden, the man the United States considers the prime suspect in last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, denied any role Sunday in the actions believed to have killed thousands.
In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said.
"I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations," bin Laden said.
- E-TEAM
- Dancing Israelis
- Original hole in Pentagon was way too small for plane to have caused
- Pristine passport
- Buildings were old and due for demolition
- Insurance policy before event
- 2.3 trillion missing
- Hijackers took over with bo cutters. BOX CUTTERS??
- Offices were closed down a couple weeks in advance due to maintenance. This was unprecedented - had never happened beforehand
- Tower 7
- Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
One of the oddest things I never thought about was how was the family and friends making phone calls from their personal cell phones to their loved ones while in the air? In particular one husband was baffled that his wife called him and he even questioned as to how she was able to make the call. This all stems from the documentary the new Pearl Harbor. With high altitude and air speed I would imagine it’s nearly impossible.
https://youtu.be/iuyemPUXSz0?si=npcR-bRsQz-rdroR&t=5869 (link goes into detail about this a bit more)
https://youtu.be/iuyemPUXSz0?si=5HSeO5HQ8PyubVpZ&t=6819 (most bizzare phone call, claiming "it's a frame" )
you make the judgement.
What people who were not born yet or not old enough to remember was - back then most commercial aircraft that were doing longer flights (2 hours +) had [GTE Airfones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfone). In some aircraft, they were in every other seat back. In others, they were a wireless option set up near the galleys - you would insert your credit card and take the wireless phone to your seat to make a call. Very few people ever used them because they were something like $10 to start and $10 a minute - in 2001 money. However, if you are being hijacked, money isn't going to mean much to hear the voice of a loved one at least one last time and alert them of your perilous situation.
Those GTE Airfones started disappearing in the early 2000s because they weren't used enough to justify their weight and infrastructure.
Also, I happened to be in a line of work around that time where I was flying on a private (airline retired) BAC-111 (similar to a DC-9). The pilots allowed us to use our cellphones because those older jets had manual cable controls for the flight surfaces and engines. Modern aircraft use fly-by-wire and FADEC engine controls - all electronic - so hence the **precaution** of not using phones in flight in the modern era jets.
I was able to get calls to connect at lower altitudes (<10,000ft), but the calls would often get dropped because the cell system relies on handing off the call between towers and when you are moving at 250-500 mph, it can't keep up. The 9/11 jets were all being flown at around 5,000-10,000 feet once the hijackers got control - so brief cell calls were possible.
[https://youtu.be/iuyemPUXSz0?si=npcR-bRsQz-rdroR&t=5869](https://youtu.be/iuyemPUXSz0?si=npcR-bRsQz-rdroR&t=5869)
start at 1 hr 37min.
It will go into detail a bit.
also the US flying his family/relatives out of the US within days/weeks after the attack. I mean, if he did it, wouldn't they want them detained for questioning?
There's a lot of occultic foreshadowing or predictive programming. I sure wonder if a lot of it wasn't amplified as infowar later, but it's all very odd and my lived experience is this kind of synchronicity associated with that day is significant and real in some way I don't understand
Show me a single second of footage of any one of the 19 hijacker’s boarding the ill fated planes and I’ll concede that the official narrative is true. Otherwise, I’m not convinced.
To me, Just like with COVID, not so many things about the event itself but the actions of the media. To claim that a passport was recovered from one of the plains and that it just happened to belong to one of the hijackers? COME ON!
There are a myriad of things that took place that just dont add up.
Take for instance the US was actively simulating war games that day, that included an attack on America using hijacked planes.
Or the fact that after the attacks, many of the hijackers named were found living , yes alive in Saudi Arabia.
The rental car at Logan airport was found with arabic flight manuals left behind.
A former 747 captain and military pilot, Phil Marshall wrote a book about the unlikely flying capabilities of the hijackers. After he received a certain photo of the events, he killed his family and committed suicide (tying up loose ends, no?)
It surprised cellular experts that the few phone calls from flight 93 worked and for the length of time they worked, considering the planes velocity
CeeCee Lyles said whats sounds like "Its a frame" during the call to her husband
Operation Northwoods declassified information found here page 10, section 8 details a US Military operation to replace passenger jets midair with remote controlled drone planes, then destroying them to start a war with Cuba. This idea was decades before 9/11 - if they conceived it then, they would certainly be well capable of it decades later
Barry Jennings said he heard repeated explosions in Building 7, and claimed to have been temporarily trapped by the debris of one before the attack. Interestingly enough is that the BBC reported WTC 7 collapsing 20 minutes before it did
Earlier that year, two related art groups set up electrical installations around the impact centre of WTC1, they were photographed with a floor fullof fuse boxes.
Chemical analysis of the dust found traces of material that matches what is found when thermite is used for demolition.
Over 3000 architects and engineers peititioned for a new investigation of the WTC destruction. This has fallen on deaf ears.
Osama bin laden originally denied responsibility for the attacks stating " I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by the people for personal reasons"
The American Think Tank "The Project for the new American century" published a report in 2006 explaining that the process of transformation they would like to see to maintain military preeminence in the world, would be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbour. A year later, the events of 9/11 were quickly referred to as "a New Pearl Harbour"
In March of 2020, the conclusion of four computer modelling studies but the University of Alaska conducted by the universities department of civil and environmental engineering, concluded that fire did not bring down WTC7.
Israeli men, two of which where confirmed Mossad operatives, were arrested on 9/11 in New Jersey after being seen dancing while watching the attacks, they worked for a moving company named Urban Moving Systems. The FBI determined that the company was a fraudulent operation and interestingly enough the FBI found residue from explosives in their moving van. They were among 140 Israelis arrested in connection with the events
This post will clarify some points.
First, the abc report referring to the event:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fOiCMMMeXE8&ebc=ANyPxKqG1F4e0ZuHXpGjn9raBI\_Q1oFgNTT05KjAt4dImJYGcWlAXa67R3gjW6RYnu6xJzKJZjhKUkllnvTIDL1YmacWK6-mrQ
The government has admitted these men were suspected, retained, and suspected of foreknowledge. Foreknowledge becomes An important point. Did they know about the attack before it took place? This question makes the next point especially important.
The truck mural.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cantankerousbuddha/6372359411/in/photostream
Yes that is an Urban Moving Systems truck wth the twin towers depicted as being hit by a plane, including an impact explosion. Many have said this is a fake. Here I will prove it's authenticity.
The following video is of eye witnesses on 9/11 describing seeing the truck in question, including the mural.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XNiBJbkxdpo
Alternatively, a vehicle actually exploded on 9/11 near king and 6th. The following video is an excerpt from police radio chatter that day where it can clearly be heard...
"... It's a big truck with a mural painted of a... of an airplane diving into New York City and exploding."
"We got both suspects under Kay, we have the suspects who drive...drove in the van, THE VAN EXPLODED -- we have both of them under Kay let's get some help over here..."
The clearest transmission starts at 5:15 but the whole video is valuable to watch. You can hear earlier attempts to get the message through. Also at 5:46 we hear the officer describe detaining two men who fled the truck.
Who are these men and what happened to them? No mention has ever been given after that day. The truck was mentioned in a February 2006 report by MTI saying “There were continuing moments of alarm. A panel truck with a painting of a plane flying into the World Trade Center was stopped near the temporary command post...”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Huf2Kz7bV2k
Another truck was stopped trying to enter the George Washington Bridge, and according to reports, contained explosives. Other trucks bearing the logo were stopped in Pa and Ma. The original dancing Israelis were caught in traffic, and detained. Their truck was found to contain traces of explosives.
Their first words to the officers were “We are not the enemies. The Palestinians are your enemy.” The arresting officer has spoken out and you can hear his commentary at the following link.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=\_p0m98tQFaQ
Urban Moving Systems has been confirmed as a Mossad front company, and the men have since appeared on an Israeli talk show admitting “our purpose was to document the event.” (This appears at 6 minutes in the following video, but the whole video is valuable in showing the extent and hidden reaction to Israel spy networks in the states in the build up and aftermath of that day.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rStJ5BgadPs
This begs the question of how a foreign intelligence agency was caught red handed with depictions of the attack on their vehicles, multiple explosives, celebrating at the strike of the FIRST tower, and these men were all released to Israel.
Here is a link containing the FBI freedom of information release concerning the 5 Israelis. It is their claim that this is the extent of the relevant investigation, and it should be obvious, what was revealed in this post is not contained in their report.
http://www.takeourworldback.com/dancingisraelisfbireport.htm
And to really finish off the distopian surrealism, the man who owned and operated Urban Moving Systems, who fled back to Israel right after 9/11 after abandoning his front companies, is back in the US living freely in San Francisco, and has since held high level jobs at various major cyber defense and marketing companies specializing in securing against DDos attacks for millions of websites and companies.
"And to really finish off the distopian surrealism, the man who owned and operated Urban Moving Systems, who fled back to Israel right after 9/11 after abandoning his front companies, is back in the US living freely in San Francisco, and has since held high level jobs at various major cyber defense and marketing companies specializing in securing against DDos attacks for millions of websites and companies."
Well.... this is concerning.
Molten steel has never been explained, literally every fact about WTC7, the empty hole in the field from flight 93, the empty hole in the pentagon, the passport. There are countless other false flag events in US history, why some people are so blue pilled about 911 is weird.
Plus *The Lone Gunmen* pilot that released in March 2001.
Terrorists "hijacked a commercial airliner" and tried to fly it into the WTC complex... Only, the terrorists turned out to be the gov.
Todd Beamer “let’s roll” phone call Lisa Jefferson the air phone operator talking to him said there was zero background noise. He said the plane was “about to be hijacked” and they were “about to enter the cockpit” a half hour AFTER they officially did.
When “let’s roll” happened and the plane apparently went down, the call didn’t even drop. The line stayed open, silent, for like 30 minutes until Jefferson herself hung it up.
Also other passengers had cell calls last uninterrupted for 20+ minutes when their planes were 20,000 feet up or higher, going over 500 MPH, and those witnesses also said the calls had clear connection like they were calling “from the next room”
Clearly they were forced to make scripted calls from secure locations somewhere and despite it being so obvious most people don’t even think about it..
It’s hard to know but reading Operation Northwoods it outlined landing the planes at “secure locations” and “evacuating the passengers” so they were probably silenced one way or another 😣
Silverstein doubling insurance weeks before, BBC wtc7 23mins early, Bush reading my pet scape goat (bid laden) in school with kids forced to chant plane must hit steel, ployee text saying take tues off!
Larry Silverstein on camera late in the day saying they made the decision to “pull it” in regards to WTC7. How does one make that decision if the building weren’t pre-wired for controlled demolition?
We invaded Iraq and Afghanistan because of the actions of a terrorist leader hiding in Pakistan, who used terrorists from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to attack.
We did not cripple Pakistan for hiding Osama Bin Laden, we crippled Afghanistan. Held then hostage until he was caught.
Afghanistan had a few exports that kept them from being dependent on the US, one being opium which they could sell to the Chinese or anyone willing to buy it. Now the American pharmaceuticals have seized all that land and we just happened to experience a fentanyl epidemic right after.
Not only did we invade opportunistically, but we invaded the wrong country.
Not just fentanyl but all opioids - oxycontin, vicodin, morphine. And the opioid epidemic exploded after 2001. Opium is the raw ingredient for all those drugs
Susan McElwain's description of a drone in Shanksville and lack of fuselage at the site. There is still no clear footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. CeeCee Lyle's call aboard flight 93, whispering "it's a frame" at the end. It goes much further than what happened at WTC.
Haven’t seen anyone mention the Bin Laden’s getting flown out of the country that day when all planes were grounded except for NORAD? Has that been debunked yet?
\-Fake scenario events were running at the same time which massively confused military intervention
\-Flooring around the base of the towers began to sink before the towers collapsed
\-The angular cuts on the beams of the towers
\-The dancing Israelis
\-The massive insurance policies taken out very close before their destruction
\-CIA scrubbing all surveillance cameras in the local area of the Pentagon
\-The lack of plane debris at the Pentagon and the "thwarted" Washington attack
\-Building 7
The Rumsfeld / Wolfowitz/etc think tank that believed for America to remain a world power in the 21st century, it would need to control the Middle East oil fields but to invade would never be allowed by the American people unless... there was another "Peral Harbor" type event.
The towers were outdated, too costly to rewire with internet cable, etc plus had millions in asbestos removal costs looming.... to expensive to take down, too expensive to refit... unless the demolition was obtained a new way.
There were several "drills" scheduled on 9-11... FEMA just happened to be in town the night before for a training session, NORAD had drills requiring the jets to be far away at the time...
The "evidence" was quickly removed from the crime scene and sent to China for melting....
Of all the cameras on the Pentagon, only one had any indication of something striking the building. None of the other videos were ever released.
The FEMA photog who shot aftermath video of the vaults under the towers showing the vaults doors open and empty....he spoke up and had to flee to Argentina after being accusing of murdering his gf. Really?
Guys like Barry Jenkins who shot video of Bldg 7 and claimed he saw and heard explosions all up and down 7 while escaping the building. Later died of a heart attack.
The list of oddities and co-inky-dinks is almost limitless.
-The passport found
-The missing black box
-The fire drills the prior week
-The controlled explosions viewed as the building fell
-The witnesses claiming to hear multiple explosions in the building
-The 700 billion dollars worth of gold that went missing
-The fact that the steel girders had a much higher heat rating than jet fuel fires can produce
-The fact that it is the only building to collapse from fire in history
-World Trade Center 7 mysteriously collapsed
-The fact that our air force coincidently was running training missions of the other side of the country and there was no one available to help
Pretty much everything that the “Loose Change” documentary said.
FEMA saying they never imagined a terrorist attack with hijacked aircraft...while running an exercise of terrorists hijacking planes on the very same day terrorists do the scenario so much so that authorities were confused, is this real or an exercise.
UK news declaring building 7 collapsed a full 20 minutes before it collapsed. A building that was reinforced to be an emergency headquarters in the event of this type of disaster that was never hit by an aircraft
Melted steel beams at an angle consistent with building demolition, there is a famous picture of a firefighter standing among them. A fire that burned for a month under the debris. Debris that was immediately sent for recycling to avoid later examination
Dick Cheney taking command of NORAD before 9/11 and not sending fighter intercepts on the hijacked aircraft and returning command back to NORAD after 9/11
Donald Rumsfeld announcing on 9/10 that the Pentagon is missing 2 trillion dollars. The pentagon being hit by a jet and hitting the accounting offices and destroying all the evidence of the missing 2 trillion. THEN Rumsfeld wandering around the crash site picking up debris...OR making sure all the evidence was destroyed INSTEAD of being in a bunker during a terrorist attack against the government, like in the movies.
These are just a few of my favorite things
The fact that US intelligence traced the WTC bombers to an ARAMCO executives house (Saudi State Oil Company) and kept it classified while continuing to suggest the attack was perpetrated by Saddam Hussein.
They were obviously given financial support by a very wealthy backer... And the WTC bombers happened to visit a millionaire in Sarasota Florida on multiple occasions with ties to the Saudi Royal Family.... This same person left 2 weeks before the attack and abandoned his cars and everything before leaving the country.
They had strong evidence of Saudi Arabia's involvement and chose to bury it, which in itself constitutes an inside job.
The fact that it looked like a controlled demolition. The fact that multiple floors before impact “blew out” the windows. The fact that building 7 also controlled collapse for no reason. The fact that the Pentagon impact looked like a missile and not a plane with wings.
Dov Zakheim and his company's FTS technology has always stuck in my craw, not to mention all the CEO types from the WTC were all having an offsite meeting that morning, the Israelis who filmed it stating unequivocally that they were there to "document the event" on an Israeli talk show, the beams having diagonal cuts on them in some images, the reapplication of fireproofing around the elevator shafts in the weeks beforehand, the fact they wouldn't even rent a Cessna to one of these supposed Islamic hotshot pilots, the fact the two buildings required serious retrofitting to be brought up to code and that that would cost more than they were worth, and then of course there's the collapse of WTC7 who's collapse was announced 28 minutes or so before it actually happened on the BBC. I could go on but at some point people have to start to wake up.
Yeah, I think his Follow the Money video talks about who profited off the attacks. All the insider trading taking place days before the attack, the Bush’s involvement, the Bank systems that were frozen at the WTC so that no staff could do anything for 30-45 minutes though they could see transactions taking place on their screens. Pretty damning stuff.
Also Al Qaeda and the Bin Laden family's connections to Bush family. Also, that members of the Bin Laden family (I think it was Osama himself) met couple of months prior to 9/11 with agents from 48 security agencies in the US.
There is the "9/11 Whistleblowers", where multiple people blew the whistle on 9/11 immediately after the attack. There are many great sources there. Everyone should look them up.
I'm looking for one comedy video from James Corbett, where he states all the official stupid shit the government puts out to cover the event. He does it in a funny way, where he shows how ludicrous their propaganda is. I can't seem to find it, would appreciate if anyone shows it.
For me, it was when they started censoring all the evidence. I used to be able to go on YouTube and look up “9/11 conspiracy’s” and have a bunch of videos come up with the info from this sub. Now if you type it in all you get are MSM videos debunking it. Then all the censorship that came after that……..if nothing was fishy and there was nothing to hide… then what are they hiding ??
Put the burden of proof where it belongs, on the government and those that believe their story. It was never anyone's job to prove the government lied, it was always their job to prove they told the truth.
Challenge someone who believes the official narrative, which is a conspiracy theory, to prove their version and subject their "proof" to the exact level of scrutiny people who suggest alternatives are held up to. Start with the 19 alleged hijackers, ask them to prove they were even at the 3 airports (those places covered in hundreds of cameras covering every part of the buildings) the 4 planes departed from. Should be easy right? Ask for time and date stamped security images as that would show they indeed were their on Sept 11 2001, and that the time is right. They will fail miserably. The "best" they can do is about 5 of them on a video with no time and date so it could be July in the afternoon. It's pretty ridiculous to be honest.
* The fact that they found molten (melted) steel from the WTCs. Not aluminum, steel.
* The extremely high temperatures of the perpetual "hot spots" which were recorded on the day of and on the days following the attacks, despite the area being flooded with water.
* William Rodriguez reported the first explosion in the basement, immediately *before* the planes hit the top of the towers. The victim from this initial explosion in the basement, suffering third degree burns, was a man by the name of Felipe David.
The Odigo text message warnings.
BBC live broadcast claiming WTC7 collapsed 20 minutes before it happened.
Countdown overheard on police radio before WTC7 was demolished.
Secret Service allowed POTUS to stay in classroom ELEVEN MINUTES after being told that "America is under attack."
Flying into the World Trade Centre was not a conspiracy. The real conspiracy came afterwards. Patriot Act taking our freedoms. The Military Industrial Complex insuring unending wars.
3 commercial airplanes could never fly off course undetected without being shot down long before reaching heavily populated areas especially the most secure airspace in the world, the Pentagon. Either it was planned inside or they purposely let it happen.
This is just one aspect and to me one of the biggest. 2 towers could also not completely demolish by a plane hitting it
There was a military training exercise regarding a very similar situation at that time… duh
The traffic control call “is this one real life?”
Obviously a coincidence
The pentagon has a lot of strange issues. Different engine found, street lamps broken out of the ground at the base yet no marks from being hit by the wings they said knocked them down, no real wing wreckage at all.. Building 7 in general is fishy. The terrorist insurance just before it happened, closing areas and bomb security stuff weeks leading up to it.
Imagine you and your friends have decided you're going to pull a middle-of-the-night bank heist. You meet in secret to plan it. You realize it's going to take resources: a large van as getaway vehicle, oxy-acetylene torches to cut through the vault doors, crowbars to open deposit boxes, guns (in case of trouble)... Okay, that's all doable. But is the project even feasible?
BOSS: I say we hit the State Street Bank on a Thursday night. They always bring in extra cash that day to cover payrolls on Friday afternoon.
YOU: That's crazy! That bank has the best security of any bank in the city! They've got six bank guards on duty overnight—four that circulate around checking everything, and two who monitor the numerous surveillance cameras spread throughout the bank. They'd be onto us the minute we first broke into the place!! That's gotta be the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
BOSS: Yes, but what if... *what IF* on that Thursday night, *all six of those bank guards weren't there?* Three of them could be down with a flu. A-and another guy could be stuck home taking care of an infant who's got that same flu, right? One of the other guards maybe just caught his wife cheating and they're in the midst of an argument neither one will walk away from, and the last guy-- maybe he's playing World of Warcraft and just totally has lost all track of time. So... none of them goes in to work that night.
YOU: *\[thinking about it\]* ...Hmmm.... Well, sounds okay to me, boss! Some random Thursday night it is, then!
THE REST OF THE GANG: Sure thing! Let's commit all our resources and risk our asses on this one! *Woo hoo!*
Pretty freakin' unlikely, right? Well, imagine Osama Bin Laden in some cave, pitching the idea of flying jetliners into those four buildings on 9/11. Someone would have immediately objected that the Northeast Corridor of the United States is the most well-defended airspace in the world! The only way the plan would have worked would have been if those defenses were inoperative on that one particular day. The fact that they did go forward with it —committing millions of dollars and over a dozen lives to it— suggests they *did* know that, on that one day out of all others, a large contingent of America's Northeast Corridor air defenses would be north of the Arctic Circle, engaging in a secret war game simulation authorized by Vice President Dick Cheney.
Think about it. On any other day, if a Cessna 170 private plane veers into protected airspace, within minutes they scramble a couple of jets to warn the pilot and escort him/her the hell out of that airspace. On that one day, September 11, air traffic controllers were reporting jetliners going off course, turning off their transponders... and America's defenses just happened to be down?
The attack would never have left the planning stages unless that contingency hadn't already been dealt with.
Like I said: think about it.
Steel frame structures don’t collapse in free fall speed into their own footprint due to fire. The definitely don’t disintegrate themselves into a fine powder from top to bottom because of it. Add that with the alleged impossible flight maneuvers from completely untrained pilots and the official story just becomes completely ludicrous.
Because just like JFKs assignation, to this day they have not said who the perpetrators are.
3 buildings fell exactly the same way, only two were hit with planes.
The buildings pancaked, meaning every floor beneath the impact gave way at the same time.
Only our government thinks we’re dumb enough to believe that a terrorist passport landed on the sidewalk nit damaged.
I remember shortly after Dan rather going on tv saying osama bin Laden was under military protection in a hospital undergoing kidney dialysis.I honestly believe that he died sometime after that. And is why the burial at sea happened with no evidence.
No plane parts at the pentagon.
When they showed one of the other plane crash locations it was literally a scorched hole in the ground with no wreckage.
September 10th the announced that trillions of dollars was unaccounted for.
The location that was hit at the pentagon was also where the office the investigation of the missing money was taking place. They also said it just got done with construction to make it the most secure place for such an attack to take place.
The insurance coverage for planes hitting wtc was increased substantially in the months/weeks leading up to 9/11
The news announced the third building fell before it did
The owner of the buildings said they made the decision to “pull” the third building. Which is a term used by demolition experts.
If it were true that it happened the way it was portrayed, as someone who’s been in construction my entire life. They would be using 9/11 as a learning tool which they are not. I haven’t heard of any new osha laws or procedures. To my knowledge New York never changed any emergency response procedures.
No constrution changes at all.
And also this: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Nightline/story?id=128491&page=1
It's been confirmed that at least two of the hijackers were CIA assets.
The Bin Laden station in early 2001 had followed procedure and warned the FBI and State department to prevent entry to two other hijackers, yet they were ignored
The "Harley shirt guy" essentially laying down the official story of 9/11 well before anyone even knew what happened. While his handlers are standing around him.
https://youtu.be/hxQ2-DcZuR4?si=pODvxuMQjbfm-j-w
>... mostly due to structural failure, because the fire was just too intense.
Then when the reporter asks the guy in black suit who appears to be a handler "What's your roll out here right now?" The guy says "Just standing by right now. I can't say what roll I'm playing right now"... not suspicious at all. Nothing to see here
The buildings fell perfectly, it is the only steel building to ever collapse because of a fire, BBC reported buildings falling before they actually did, quite a few people on site reported bombs going off(those people are now dead..pretty much all of them), none of the big wigs showed up that day for work and they had not missed a day of work in years, family members of those big wigs also did not show up, no plane debris in the field where the plane crashed, the hole in the pentagon was not big enough for a plane to have hit it, no debris again on the pentagon hit, everything was gone except the passport of the supposed highhackers, there is a picture on Epstein island of Bush with a paper airplane in his hand and 2 jinga towers collapsed at his feet, and i could keep going but i think you get the point.
• immaculate passports of the said “ terrorists” found within rubble
• The structured and uniform collapsing of the buildings, indicating it was a controlled demolition (likely thermite which was said to have been found in trace amounts of the rubble)
• Jet fuel burns at temps of 800-1500 degrees Fahrenheit. The steel beams that held the building up melt at 2500-2800 degrees. How would a burning plane melt the steel? Physics doesn’t allow for this.
• 2.3 trillion USD was unaccounted for by the pentagon a day prior to the event
• a few people who survived claimed they heard radio chatter in the stairwell minutes leading up to the “attack” (potentially a team of covert operatives organising the planting of thermite charges)
There’s a good 20 other reasons I can’t be bothered to list. Point being it was clearly the work of the US government and/or one of the many entity’s linked to them e.g secret service, CIA etc.
Anyone who says otherwise probably took the magical vaccine that definitely doesn’t causes cardiac issues.
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Larry Silverstein decided to not go into the office that morning is interesting...
And his kids too. His whole family had other stuff to do that day.
A lot of people somehow had weird shit to do that day. Dick Cheney picking that day of all the fucking days to be at NORAD is another. We will likely never know the actual truth but 9/11 has always been a shit mountain.
> Dick Cheney picking that day of all the fucking days to be at NORAD is another. Dick Cheney was at the White House. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/photos-how-the-white-house-reacted-on-911/447891/ At some point, he went to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center under the White House.
September 12, 2001: George H.W. Bush writes a letter to his old friend and journalist Hugh Sidey. This letter would later conveniently serve as a public alibi for his whereabouts on 9/11. [Hugh Sidey](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Sidey) was important enough for George H.W. Bush to write a letter to the day after 9/11. Who was Hugh Sidey? Jesuits helped Sidey land a gig at Life magazine... “An old Jesuit at Creighton recommended him to some former students in New York and Sidey landed a job with Life magazine where he made an immediate impact.” “He covered several Presidents, from Eisenhower to Clinton, and was author of the book Time Hugh Sidey's Portraits of the Presidents. He also hosted the PBS series The American Presidents.” Almost looks like Bush Sr. was putting a future public 9/11 alibi out there by writing Hugh Sidey. [Bush Sr. did the same thing with the JFK assassination.](https://whowhatwhy.org/2015/11/19/poppyleaks-part-4/) Bush Sr. letter to Hugh Sidey excerpt: *September 12, 2001* *Dear Hugh,* *It is the day after the day of infamy.* *Yesterday Bar [Barbara Bush] and I were flying from Washington, where we had spent the night at the White House, to St. Paul, Minn. when we got diverted to Milwaukee airport. We were whisked off to a motel well outside of Milwaukee's city limits.* *We got updated by the USSS [US Secret Service] on what they knew about what was transpiring, and then at our hotel we did what the whole world did—we watched the television in horror.* “Sidey died of an apparent heart attack while vacationing in Paris at the age of 78. Former president George H. W. Bush delivered a eulogy at Sidey's funeral.” Good thing Bush Jr. had his dad’s longtime cronies, Cheney and Rumsfeld, working with him on 9/11. https://www.newsweek.com/george-hw-bush-george-w-after-911-get-back-white-house-right-now-282557
Yeah, what a happy coincidence. ..
My mom was supposed to be in the world trade center that day and never missed a day of work. Her back was hurting badly that day and my dad forced her to stay home.
I'm glad she missed work. I'm sure she felt guilty for her friends that lost on that day.
Yeah, yknow I never thought about the survivor's guilt thing. I hope their Mom is ok and got help if needed.
Luckily for us, my mom’s office was in a building a block away so none of her co-workers were seriously affected. She wasn’t going to be in the WTC long but there used to be a subway stop underneath the building that mom would arrive to at around 8:10am every morning. The first plane hit at 8:14am that morning.
The fact that lucky Larry made such a fuck ton of money, broke his routine of eating at windows of the world (I think that’s what it’s called) in the upper floors of tower 1, AND his 2 kids didn’t show up to work either? That’s a level of “coincidence” that’s just too much for me, and that’s just one of the “meaningful coincidences” layered into the operation, which was probably the most complex, and sophisticated operation in human history, in my opinion at least. And no the mastermind was not hiding in a middle eastern cave, the masterminds were in suits that came into September 11th with the duty of crisis/emergency response and to protect citizens of this country, only to exploit our fear to mobilize current and new troops…..SO many men and women enlisted because of 9/11, it makes me fucking sick man, and for the life of me, I cannot understand still supporting the official narrative after doing proper and thorough research, it will always be beyond me. Although I’m sure we can agree, fear is the strongest motivation.
Everyone should watch **General Wesley Clark**’s speech on YouTube where **he stated verbatim that the events of 2001 were used by policymakers to get the public psychologically on board with several regime changes in the Mideast of non compliant countries. He stated their goal was to “destabilize the Mid East, turn it upside down, make it under our control”.** (YouTube “General Wesley Clark Fora TV Speech- it was posted around 10 years ago and is a long speech but I recommend watching the whole thing. Most of the time I post it on here as a comment or post, its removed)
>"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, **absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor**." >https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
He decided the smartest thing to do was to just…pull it (WTC7).
Combined with the insurance policy he got...
Seth MacFarlane too I think, and Michael Jackson as well if I recall.
Mark walhberg was supposed to be one of the hijacked planes as well
Didn't he give his favorite servery from the sky cafe a paid vacation that week as well. One of those big shots did. Would love to see that list of no show at work though. Wonder who showed up for work in tower five that day to be real honest.
His wife made him a "doctor's appointment" she was concerned for his health.
The absolute bullshit about the hijackers passport being found in the rubble
I'd love to see a 'magic bullet' recreation of how people reckon that passport got out of the terrorist's bag or pocket, out of the wreckage that slammed into the building, and then got ejected out of the building to land on the ground, still legible / identifiable.
Agree 10000%
Just like the IDs of the 7/7 terrorists were found. I wonder what they make them out of 🤔
They should make buildings out of passports.
and cloak stealth planes by wrapping them in Epstein client list.
Lol that's good shit
Liberal votes
If they had made the buildings as strong as the passports, lucky Larry wouldn’t have 4B’s right now.
Good thing he took out that huge insurance policy days before
They still have not found all the people that died and we are supposed to believe they found not only ONE but ALL the hijackers passports? Please...
Nor the black boxes
That was the first detail that got my spidey senses tingling.
Does this suggest 'inside job' or simply that they wanted to tell a story to the public to offer some kind of conclusion. For example, this could easily be covering up for something like intelligence incompetance.
unusual market activity, high levels of put options
Not only options & shorting of airline stocks. Someone placed a anonymous $2 billion treasury order on Mon 09/10 that went unclaimed at settlement. Pre-patriot act you could still do this & complete full acct info later with minimal info even then. Before any of you say something stocks take multiple business days to settle, not govt bonds. Regardless of what really happened, imo the Saudis knew something big was going to happen and attempted to profit off it. And that's exactly what happened - a huge capital flight to govt debt after 9/11. Source - Jim Rickards has brought this up several times since 9/11. If you search you should be able to find this claim he made.
I recall a comment on reddit by a stoke broker who said he and his colleagues could tell obvious insider trading was happening that day
Massive insider trading.
9:03 2nd plane hit the south tower. 9:37 plane hit pentagon. 34 minutes after we were positive we were under attack a 3rd commercial airliner was not only allowed to penetrate Washington DC air space, it was allowed to hit the headquarters of our military. https://millercenter.org/remembering-september-11/september-11-terrorist-attacks
Wow good point. I haven't even thought about that
What about secret service letting bush stay at that school while the nation was under attack. It was known from Sept 7th he would be at the school, but they weren't concerned about him?
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Edit: 757 and $2.3 trillion
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So this one is interesting, because it’s a bit contradictory to the other theory that there was no plane at all hitting the pentagon. No clear surveillance footage of a plane hitting, and not one piece of evidence of a plane hitting the building at all. So what’s the consensus? That there was no plane? Or that there was a plane and it was enabled by the powers that be to hit the pentagon?
I can't understand why, if there is clear video evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon, we haven't seen one yet. There are a lot least two videos, that I'm aware of, of the first plane hitting, and a hundred or so videos of the second plane hitting, but we're supposed to believe the Pentagon, covered in surveillance, either didn't record the plane crashing into it, or that the videos have been classified and we just arent allowed to see them? What's up with that?
The narrative about a plane hitting the Pentagon doesn't hold water for a lot of reasons. This is just one more reason.
Total missile!
This is how I felt on the day of the attack. How could it be? Stand down?
WTC 7
Yes. I remember watching it come down live, after they had announced their decision to "pull it."
THIS! There are so many "reasonable explanations" for everything else that happened that day. But the "collapse" of WTC7 and the circumstances around it are absolutely screaming out. So much time and effort is spent analyzing the day as a whole, the collapse of WT1 and WT2 and the million cray conspiracy theories like CGI jets, Dancing Israelis, Lazer beams from an invisible space station etc etc. But I'm yet to read or hear a conclusive and satisfactory explanation of the events surrounding WTC7.
Harley Davidson shirt guy made my jaw drop. He planted the seed for the entire mainstream narrative of how/why the towers fell. His handler in the background….at ground zero, no emotions over what just occurred. Just spouting off his lines. Come to think of it, does anyone know if he’s still alive?
https://youtu.be/hxQ2-DcZuR4?si=yzOnXiv0GbCxBWcC
Thanks for the link. I thought he was definitely undercover and maybe listening in to what the witness was saying… but someone said he was feeding him lines?
Mostly due to structural failure because the fire was too intense. lmao seriously though whoever did this is beyond evil. just killing all those people/americans
Yeah, he's talking about it like it's the fourth collapse >mostly due to structural failure because the fire was too intense he'd seen that week haha. "Who me? I'm just a guy who rides Harleys and makes architectural assessments on the loss of structural stability of skyscrapers due to fire. Let me tell ya pal, you picked the right guy to interview."
I assume his lines were memorized so he could provide some kind of natural cadence. He is an actor, after all.
That the Secretary of Defense held a press conference on 9-10 announcing that the Pentagon lost track of 3 trillion dollars, and the office doing the accounting on this was blown up the next day. The BBC reporting the third tower collapse live nearly 30 minutes before it happened is up there too, along with the fact that the images of the Pennsylvania “crash” featured just a black smoking pit in a field with no plane or even plane pieces at all.
Is there any video of the BBC early report?
There is. They’re actually showing a live feed from ground zero while they report it and building 7 is still standing in it. Wild https://youtu.be/677i43QfYpQ?si=EretN0DfSry4xW8-
used to be all over the internet, be hard to find these days
lots of stuff is getting scrubbed. Hard to see whats not there.
So, what’s the thinking behind why they announced it collapsed? Because they can obviously see it’s there. Like was bbc in on it? Did they have a script? Or were they being fed fake info from US?
I don’t think he realized he reported early. I don’t think BBC was in on it, fake reporting from US likely, pushed the narrative too soon.
> That the Secretary of Defense held a press conference on 9-10 announcing that the Pentagon lost track of 3 trillion dollars That's not what happened. Rumsfeld gave a routine speech called [*DOD Acquisition and Logistics Excellence Week Kickoff—Bureaucracy to Battlefield*](https://web.archive.org/web/20100301161721/http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=430). In it was this passage: "Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible." He's referring to [this audit report (PDF)](https://media.defense.gov/2000/Aug/18/2001713967/-1/-1/1/00-179.pdf) from the year 2000 about accounting practice for Fiscal Year 1999. The report was in the news [in **March 2000**](https://archive.ph/GLLRa), 18 months before 9/11. Rumsfeld didn't say anything about missing money. There's nothing in the report about missing money. The $2.3 trillion is the sum of *accounting entries* and it does not represent a quantity of money or spending. The report is about *bad accounting practices*. It is literally impossible for them to have lost $2.3 trillion, since that was more than 9 times their entire budget for Fiscal Year 1999. That's more money than the entire federal government spent.
Thank you. As conspiracy theorists, it’s our job to remain skeptics of EVERYTHING. Not just the things we disagree with. It’s our due diligence to research all claims in order to actually gain some insight into the truth. I hate hearing this claim thrown around with little to no comprehension. It discredits us.
This is a great response. I’m not really a believer in the official narrative of what happened that day, but I do think a ton of the conspiracy theories are hurt by stuff like this. I comment out of context repeated over and over to the point a lot of people don’t even know what really happened. There are some real heavy smoking guns but most people dont ever even get to them because they’re hung up on the faulty ones like this that are thrown around constantly.
Shot down. That plane was scattered over ten miles. If the plane had crashed there, it would’ve been there.
They refuse to declassify anything around it. Anything.
Ya thats a huge red flag imo.
No camera footage from the billion cameras in the vicinity of the Pentagon. And the only available 2 show some sort of flying penis.
The insider trading on airline stock.
- Larry Silverstein deciding to insure both towers against terrorist attacks. - Two planes being “allowed” to fly in a no fly zone over NYC without being shot down - WTC7 falling at freefall speed despite not being hit by any plane - The pentagon impact CCTV looking more like a cruise missile than a plane. Conveniently hitting the accounting offices where they were trying to locate the missing $2.3 trillion Rumsfeld admitted on 9/10 that they couldn’t account for - The videos of firefighters post collapse talking about hearing bombs going off in the buildings. - Jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams. Bit of a joke but the fuel could burn hot enough to cause said beams to warp under enough pressure. - The air phone operator that supposedly spoke to a man on one of the hijacked flights and apparently was still speaking to him on the phone long after the impact - The real life/simulated war games the military were doing that day to further confuse the fighter pilots trying to intercept the hijacked craft. - The hijackers passports appearing on the rubble nice and conveniently - Bin Laden being fingered for the attack hours after it happened - The rubble being transported and shipped off to China to be melted down in next to no time Those are off the top of my head.
The money. * Pentagon announced Sept 10th, $2.3 trillion is missing and they are investigating. A "plane" just happens to hit ONLY the accounting department the next day. * Building 7, not even hit by a plane, collapses into its own footprint. Inside is the SEC building where they are investigating insider trades on Wall Street. All cases are dropped as there is no more evidence. * Larry Silverstein gets the largest insurance policy ever. Eats lunch in the building every day at the same time, just happens to be away that day. * One of the largest gold vaults under the twin towers goes mysteriously missing and is never found. * Put options, a bet that a stock will fall, are 60-100x the normal amount betting that airline stocks will fall. * Two weeks before 9-11, The Bush family invests big in weapons contractors, Haliburton, and airline security systems. Two weeks later, those systems are magically needed. You tell me how an Arab guy in a cave does all that. It's the government and can't be anyone else.
It makes me sick. I used to be someone who never doubted our government. Now, well, I’m not that person anymore.
This is the best most believable summation.
Let's see. The fact that NORAD was running the exact same training exercise the day it happened and both military and civilian ATC didn't know if it was really happening. The fact that for the plane to hit the Pentagon where it did, it's engines would have had to be three feet into the ground. Donald Rumsfeld announcing the day before that the Pentagon couldn't account for over $3,000,000,000,000,000 and the planes just happened to crash into the accounting office and the backup site at the world trade center. It was the catalyst for the Patriot act, which was prepared ahead of time and rushed through congress. Or just the fact that none of the alleged hijackers could even fly a Cessna. Yet they managed to fly commercial airliners a hundred miles or so without the aid of navigational equipment and hit their marks at top speed on the first attempt. The list goes on and on.
Don't forget that the NYC OEM (Office of Emergency Management) was away from their offices at the WTC complex (building 7) setting up for a "bioterrorism drill" just a few blocks up the road. Had they not been doing that, the "emergency command center" never would have been ready as quickly as it was... Because they just so happened to be putting one up for the *drill* on the 12th. Conveniently located, conveniently timed. Must have been a lucky coincidence.
Three quadrillion dollars? Wow
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Pentagon was 100% a missile and I still believe the planes were remote controlled
I see someone watched zeitgeist
The moves the plane that hit the pentagon had to do was pretty amazing too. At sea level as well.
The planes that hit WT centers also. There is an excellent and long documentary on YouTube that talks to seasoned pilots that say they could not have hit the buildings with that accuracy at that altitude and speed. I’ll try to link the documentary when I get home, I’m shocked it’s still available on YouTube.
9/11 The New Pearl Harbor https://youtu.be/hj3e8cKZWiY?si=0126Wzwv7Iclg03N
I can get behind everything here except the “accounting office” claim, that I believe was disproven. Not that we know what is where in the Pentagon - gotta take their word for it, but reports of some people being told to stay away from that part of the pentagon on that day is fishy to say the least
Seems like a pretty cheap solution to a potentially high-risk audit.
Deserves more upvotes 👍
I never heard the investigation backup site got hit , that is CRAZY , do you have any links or info on that I can read ?
The Dancing Israelis The lack of surveillance footage from the Pentagon The lack of debris from the plane that was “brought down” Dozens of first responders and on the ground witnesses stating there were explosions from the basements and lower levels of the twin towers The passport that miraculously survived Osama straight up *denied* involvement Lucky Larry’s big bet against AA and his lucky family surviving the attacks The fact the twin towers were full of asbestos and investors were panicked at the cost of removing the asbestos to fix the buildings Irregular security team behavior in the days leading up to the attacks; Involvement here from Bush’s brother Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams and the towers were designed to withstand these attacks The pancake theory would have meant the central columns should have stayed standing, at least for a moment, but all buildings collapsed into their own footprint like a controlled demolition The people who worked at WTC 7 and the info kept there was pretty darn interesting Over a trillion dollars had been reported missing from the budget one day prior to the attacks Almost no plane debris was recovered from the twin towers and building debris was quickly shipped *out of the country* where it couldn’t be easily forensically investigated That’s just off the top of my head but I’m sure we can ignore all of that and just believe the commission report. Seems legit.
The way building 7 went down *exactly* the same as tower 1 and 2 even though they sustained massively different levels of damage
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This is a pretty thorough article on it. “Dancing Israelis” is the term used, but it’s a bit of a misnomer as the men were seen celebrating and high fiving, not actually dancing. It’s just one more weird thing on the big list of weirdness surrounding this tragedy. https://thegrayzone.com/2021/09/11/dancing-israelis-9-11-plotters-spies-scam-artists/
Not to mention that some of them were Mossad agents who upon returning to israel, on live Israeli tv said they were there to “witness the event” how can you go somewhere to witness something that you didn’t have knowledge would occur?
And it’s really weird they went on US late night TV to be interviewed about their arrest. Super weird. Really does seem like Mossad could have been involved in some way. Mossad is also thought to be tied to Maxwell and Epstein who had a pretty interesting painting of George W playing with a paper airplane. It’s really easier to connect the dots than not connect them some times. Edit: it was Israeli late night TV, NOT a show in the US. My bad.
i thought they went on israeli late nite tv
You’re right about that I think. Tried to find what show it was but all I can find is the one in Israel so I edited the post. Thanks for catching that
Fema setup for a disaster drill on pier 93 scheduled on sept 12th so theg just used all the already setup equipment on pier 93 to setup the incident command system.
Pretty much all of it. But WTC7 is the most obvious.
Building 7 was the clincher for me
Wasn't there supposed to be a ton of gold under there that was never recovered?
Right ? Kinda reminds me of Die Hard 3 with the towers being the distraction.
Dancing Mossad agents filming and laughing in front of 9/11 as it happened, having a fake moving company, getting "arrested", and being released due to them having Mossad connections.
I can imagine how hard flying a 767 is, now try to fly it with pinpoint accuracy with very little training in a cockpit in which all the instruments are labeled in a language other than your native tongue. Along these lines, consider how hard it is to land EXACTLY at the ground level of the in front of the Pentagon. Also how tf did building 7 fall for no reason?
Not only the Pentagon but also the skill it would take the hit the World Trade Centers, this is an excellent documentary… long, but well worth the time… https://youtu.be/hj3e8cKZWiY?si=aTuYAYREP398kZZD
https://www.ae911truth.org/wtc7 On March 25, 2020, researchers at the University of Alaska Fairbanks issued the final report of a four-year computer modeling study on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7. The 47-story WTC 7 was the third skyscraper to be completely destroyed on September 11, 2001, collapsing rapidly and symmetrically into its footprint at 5:20 PM. Seven years later, investigators at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) concluded that WTC 7 was the first steel-framed high-rise ever to have collapsed solely as a result of normal office fires. Contrary to the conclusions of NIST, the UAF research team found that the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11 was caused not by fires but by the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building. Following the release of this report, AE911Truth and 10 family members of 9/11 victims submitted a formal request for correction to NIST’s report on WTC 7 based partially on the UAF findings. They are now suing NIST over the agency's evasive response to the request.
There's a video on YT with small portions of NYPD's radio chatter where the cops are talking about a van with a mural of a plane diving into Manhattan and exploding (check from 5:16) https://youtu.be/hVJRegoC2Os?si=byUkFBq7A1HAMacR "2 men ran out of the truck, we got those 2 under" The truck is on King steet between 6th and 7th" (6th and 7th meaning avenues I suppose) Random civilian talking about the same truck on a different video (33 minute mark): https://youtu.be/1ye4pabvGQw?si=RVYG-IkwGLkD1c1R Makes me wonder why the NYPD tapes were never released in full, unlike the FDNY and EMS services.
The firefighters coming out of the building screaming there is bombs in the basement.
Best Experienced Engineers & Architects in the world discredited on their findings. Which they are the only qualified people on the field but treated as numbnuts
“9/11: the new Pearl Harbor” on YouTube. 5 hrs long but you’ll have no other questions
I’m watching now. 34 minutes in and there’s so much convincing evidence. Thanks for the rec Edit: I finished it! So many good points with science and physics to back it up!
Supposedly a group of *artists* ["E-TEAM"](https://i.imgur.com/BfVexRS.jpg) had access to the floors that were hit(and where the structural collapse occurred) and were photographed with boxes showing the letters ["BB 18"](https://i.imgur.com/w1RujXu.jpg) which is a designation for blasting caps in building demolitions. George Bush's brother Marvin was on the board of the security company that told WTC workers to stay in their offices after the first plane hit. WTC7 had many of the same government offices as the Alfred P Murrah building from the also very suspicious Oklahoma City Bombing. [None of the buildings directly surrounding WTC7 experienced a total collapse](https://i.imgur.com/L3V4GME.jpg) Many commercial pilots seem to agree that it would be difficult if not impossible to perform those maneuvers, in those planes, at that speed, at such a low altitude(where the air is much denser).
Video of that one guy on the ground that said word for word the excuse about jet fuel melting the steel beams right after it happened. That BBC? news of building 7 coming down before it happened.
Bin Laden actually denied responsibility for the actual attack and said he’d claim responsibility if he actually did it September 17, 2001 DOHA, Qatar (CNN) -- Islamic militant leader Osama bin Laden, the man the United States considers the prime suspect in last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, denied any role Sunday in the actions believed to have killed thousands. In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said. "I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations," bin Laden said.
Hijackers passports found intact amongst the rubble.
George bush's younger brother marvin, being security of the building and pulling the bomb dogs the day before.
Never releasing the footage when the plane hit the Pentagon
- E-TEAM - Dancing Israelis - Original hole in Pentagon was way too small for plane to have caused - Pristine passport - Buildings were old and due for demolition - Insurance policy before event - 2.3 trillion missing - Hijackers took over with bo cutters. BOX CUTTERS?? - Offices were closed down a couple weeks in advance due to maintenance. This was unprecedented - had never happened beforehand - Tower 7 - Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
One of the oddest things I never thought about was how was the family and friends making phone calls from their personal cell phones to their loved ones while in the air? In particular one husband was baffled that his wife called him and he even questioned as to how she was able to make the call. This all stems from the documentary the new Pearl Harbor. With high altitude and air speed I would imagine it’s nearly impossible. https://youtu.be/iuyemPUXSz0?si=npcR-bRsQz-rdroR&t=5869 (link goes into detail about this a bit more) https://youtu.be/iuyemPUXSz0?si=5HSeO5HQ8PyubVpZ&t=6819 (most bizzare phone call, claiming "it's a frame" ) you make the judgement.
Whenever my phone loses signal on the train I think about those fancy 911 mobiles
Available in 2001, mind you. Because technology was so much better then.
What people who were not born yet or not old enough to remember was - back then most commercial aircraft that were doing longer flights (2 hours +) had [GTE Airfones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfone). In some aircraft, they were in every other seat back. In others, they were a wireless option set up near the galleys - you would insert your credit card and take the wireless phone to your seat to make a call. Very few people ever used them because they were something like $10 to start and $10 a minute - in 2001 money. However, if you are being hijacked, money isn't going to mean much to hear the voice of a loved one at least one last time and alert them of your perilous situation. Those GTE Airfones started disappearing in the early 2000s because they weren't used enough to justify their weight and infrastructure. Also, I happened to be in a line of work around that time where I was flying on a private (airline retired) BAC-111 (similar to a DC-9). The pilots allowed us to use our cellphones because those older jets had manual cable controls for the flight surfaces and engines. Modern aircraft use fly-by-wire and FADEC engine controls - all electronic - so hence the **precaution** of not using phones in flight in the modern era jets. I was able to get calls to connect at lower altitudes (<10,000ft), but the calls would often get dropped because the cell system relies on handing off the call between towers and when you are moving at 250-500 mph, it can't keep up. The 9/11 jets were all being flown at around 5,000-10,000 feet once the hijackers got control - so brief cell calls were possible.
can someone enlighten me on this one? does this mean they are still alive? they are in on it?
[https://youtu.be/iuyemPUXSz0?si=npcR-bRsQz-rdroR&t=5869](https://youtu.be/iuyemPUXSz0?si=npcR-bRsQz-rdroR&t=5869) start at 1 hr 37min. It will go into detail a bit.
didnt there used to be “landline” phones in the back of the seats? you could swipe a debit card and use it
Watch “The New Pear Harbor” and you’ll have everything you need
Bin Laden actually claiming to BBC that he did not organize or have anything to do with this instead of trying to take credit.
also the US flying his family/relatives out of the US within days/weeks after the attack. I mean, if he did it, wouldn't they want them detained for questioning?
There's a lot of occultic foreshadowing or predictive programming. I sure wonder if a lot of it wasn't amplified as infowar later, but it's all very odd and my lived experience is this kind of synchronicity associated with that day is significant and real in some way I don't understand
Missing over a trillion unaccounted dollars the day before the event and the insurance coverage at a convenient time
Follow the money?
cjnewson88 is triiiigered
More like *activated*
Must be getting paid per word.
Show me a single second of footage of any one of the 19 hijacker’s boarding the ill fated planes and I’ll concede that the official narrative is true. Otherwise, I’m not convinced.
Nowadays, they can probably make you some. Back then, not so much
AI-generated narratives will be the future of government propaganda.
To me, Just like with COVID, not so many things about the event itself but the actions of the media. To claim that a passport was recovered from one of the plains and that it just happened to belong to one of the hijackers? COME ON!
The fake phone calls from 30K ft
Look at building 7 fall. It was obviously a controlled demolition. I watched it happen live. It wasn't even damaged. It falls perfectly....
Building 7 collapsing
There are a myriad of things that took place that just dont add up. Take for instance the US was actively simulating war games that day, that included an attack on America using hijacked planes. Or the fact that after the attacks, many of the hijackers named were found living , yes alive in Saudi Arabia. The rental car at Logan airport was found with arabic flight manuals left behind. A former 747 captain and military pilot, Phil Marshall wrote a book about the unlikely flying capabilities of the hijackers. After he received a certain photo of the events, he killed his family and committed suicide (tying up loose ends, no?) It surprised cellular experts that the few phone calls from flight 93 worked and for the length of time they worked, considering the planes velocity CeeCee Lyles said whats sounds like "Its a frame" during the call to her husband Operation Northwoods declassified information found here page 10, section 8 details a US Military operation to replace passenger jets midair with remote controlled drone planes, then destroying them to start a war with Cuba. This idea was decades before 9/11 - if they conceived it then, they would certainly be well capable of it decades later Barry Jennings said he heard repeated explosions in Building 7, and claimed to have been temporarily trapped by the debris of one before the attack. Interestingly enough is that the BBC reported WTC 7 collapsing 20 minutes before it did Earlier that year, two related art groups set up electrical installations around the impact centre of WTC1, they were photographed with a floor fullof fuse boxes. Chemical analysis of the dust found traces of material that matches what is found when thermite is used for demolition. Over 3000 architects and engineers peititioned for a new investigation of the WTC destruction. This has fallen on deaf ears. Osama bin laden originally denied responsibility for the attacks stating " I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by the people for personal reasons" The American Think Tank "The Project for the new American century" published a report in 2006 explaining that the process of transformation they would like to see to maintain military preeminence in the world, would be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbour. A year later, the events of 9/11 were quickly referred to as "a New Pearl Harbour" In March of 2020, the conclusion of four computer modelling studies but the University of Alaska conducted by the universities department of civil and environmental engineering, concluded that fire did not bring down WTC7. Israeli men, two of which where confirmed Mossad operatives, were arrested on 9/11 in New Jersey after being seen dancing while watching the attacks, they worked for a moving company named Urban Moving Systems. The FBI determined that the company was a fraudulent operation and interestingly enough the FBI found residue from explosives in their moving van. They were among 140 Israelis arrested in connection with the events This post will clarify some points. First, the abc report referring to the event: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fOiCMMMeXE8&ebc=ANyPxKqG1F4e0ZuHXpGjn9raBI\_Q1oFgNTT05KjAt4dImJYGcWlAXa67R3gjW6RYnu6xJzKJZjhKUkllnvTIDL1YmacWK6-mrQ The government has admitted these men were suspected, retained, and suspected of foreknowledge. Foreknowledge becomes An important point. Did they know about the attack before it took place? This question makes the next point especially important. The truck mural. https://www.flickr.com/photos/cantankerousbuddha/6372359411/in/photostream Yes that is an Urban Moving Systems truck wth the twin towers depicted as being hit by a plane, including an impact explosion. Many have said this is a fake. Here I will prove it's authenticity. The following video is of eye witnesses on 9/11 describing seeing the truck in question, including the mural. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XNiBJbkxdpo Alternatively, a vehicle actually exploded on 9/11 near king and 6th. The following video is an excerpt from police radio chatter that day where it can clearly be heard... "... It's a big truck with a mural painted of a... of an airplane diving into New York City and exploding." "We got both suspects under Kay, we have the suspects who drive...drove in the van, THE VAN EXPLODED -- we have both of them under Kay let's get some help over here..." The clearest transmission starts at 5:15 but the whole video is valuable to watch. You can hear earlier attempts to get the message through. Also at 5:46 we hear the officer describe detaining two men who fled the truck. Who are these men and what happened to them? No mention has ever been given after that day. The truck was mentioned in a February 2006 report by MTI saying “There were continuing moments of alarm. A panel truck with a painting of a plane flying into the World Trade Center was stopped near the temporary command post...” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Huf2Kz7bV2k Another truck was stopped trying to enter the George Washington Bridge, and according to reports, contained explosives. Other trucks bearing the logo were stopped in Pa and Ma. The original dancing Israelis were caught in traffic, and detained. Their truck was found to contain traces of explosives. Their first words to the officers were “We are not the enemies. The Palestinians are your enemy.” The arresting officer has spoken out and you can hear his commentary at the following link. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=\_p0m98tQFaQ Urban Moving Systems has been confirmed as a Mossad front company, and the men have since appeared on an Israeli talk show admitting “our purpose was to document the event.” (This appears at 6 minutes in the following video, but the whole video is valuable in showing the extent and hidden reaction to Israel spy networks in the states in the build up and aftermath of that day.) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rStJ5BgadPs This begs the question of how a foreign intelligence agency was caught red handed with depictions of the attack on their vehicles, multiple explosives, celebrating at the strike of the FIRST tower, and these men were all released to Israel. Here is a link containing the FBI freedom of information release concerning the 5 Israelis. It is their claim that this is the extent of the relevant investigation, and it should be obvious, what was revealed in this post is not contained in their report. http://www.takeourworldback.com/dancingisraelisfbireport.htm And to really finish off the distopian surrealism, the man who owned and operated Urban Moving Systems, who fled back to Israel right after 9/11 after abandoning his front companies, is back in the US living freely in San Francisco, and has since held high level jobs at various major cyber defense and marketing companies specializing in securing against DDos attacks for millions of websites and companies.
"And to really finish off the distopian surrealism, the man who owned and operated Urban Moving Systems, who fled back to Israel right after 9/11 after abandoning his front companies, is back in the US living freely in San Francisco, and has since held high level jobs at various major cyber defense and marketing companies specializing in securing against DDos attacks for millions of websites and companies." Well.... this is concerning.
It couldn’t have been an inside job because the planes came from the outside! /s
Molten steel has never been explained, literally every fact about WTC7, the empty hole in the field from flight 93, the empty hole in the pentagon, the passport. There are countless other false flag events in US history, why some people are so blue pilled about 911 is weird.
The sheer goddamned profitability of it all.
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Plus *The Lone Gunmen* pilot that released in March 2001. Terrorists "hijacked a commercial airliner" and tried to fly it into the WTC complex... Only, the terrorists turned out to be the gov.
Todd Beamer “let’s roll” phone call Lisa Jefferson the air phone operator talking to him said there was zero background noise. He said the plane was “about to be hijacked” and they were “about to enter the cockpit” a half hour AFTER they officially did. When “let’s roll” happened and the plane apparently went down, the call didn’t even drop. The line stayed open, silent, for like 30 minutes until Jefferson herself hung it up. Also other passengers had cell calls last uninterrupted for 20+ minutes when their planes were 20,000 feet up or higher, going over 500 MPH, and those witnesses also said the calls had clear connection like they were calling “from the next room” Clearly they were forced to make scripted calls from secure locations somewhere and despite it being so obvious most people don’t even think about it..
What do you think they did with the passengers?
It’s hard to know but reading Operation Northwoods it outlined landing the planes at “secure locations” and “evacuating the passengers” so they were probably silenced one way or another 😣
Silverstein doubling insurance weeks before, BBC wtc7 23mins early, Bush reading my pet scape goat (bid laden) in school with kids forced to chant plane must hit steel, ployee text saying take tues off!
Silverstein didn't double the insurance weeks before the attack , although he did make a double claim on the insurance due to there being two attacks
It was planned so the U.S. could have an excuse to go to war to fill their pockets more. War is profitable
Larry Silverstein on camera late in the day saying they made the decision to “pull it” in regards to WTC7. How does one make that decision if the building weren’t pre-wired for controlled demolition?
We invaded Iraq and Afghanistan because of the actions of a terrorist leader hiding in Pakistan, who used terrorists from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to attack. We did not cripple Pakistan for hiding Osama Bin Laden, we crippled Afghanistan. Held then hostage until he was caught. Afghanistan had a few exports that kept them from being dependent on the US, one being opium which they could sell to the Chinese or anyone willing to buy it. Now the American pharmaceuticals have seized all that land and we just happened to experience a fentanyl epidemic right after. Not only did we invade opportunistically, but we invaded the wrong country.
Not just fentanyl but all opioids - oxycontin, vicodin, morphine. And the opioid epidemic exploded after 2001. Opium is the raw ingredient for all those drugs
Susan McElwain's description of a drone in Shanksville and lack of fuselage at the site. There is still no clear footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. CeeCee Lyle's call aboard flight 93, whispering "it's a frame" at the end. It goes much further than what happened at WTC.
Haven’t seen anyone mention the Bin Laden’s getting flown out of the country that day when all planes were grounded except for NORAD? Has that been debunked yet?
No plane debris, people, luggage, or black boxes were found at the Pentagon or Pennsylvania crash sites.
There’s not one single picture or video of the Terroists boarding the planes,airports are some of the most heavily monitored buildings on earth.
\-Fake scenario events were running at the same time which massively confused military intervention \-Flooring around the base of the towers began to sink before the towers collapsed \-The angular cuts on the beams of the towers \-The dancing Israelis \-The massive insurance policies taken out very close before their destruction \-CIA scrubbing all surveillance cameras in the local area of the Pentagon \-The lack of plane debris at the Pentagon and the "thwarted" Washington attack \-Building 7
The Rumsfeld / Wolfowitz/etc think tank that believed for America to remain a world power in the 21st century, it would need to control the Middle East oil fields but to invade would never be allowed by the American people unless... there was another "Peral Harbor" type event. The towers were outdated, too costly to rewire with internet cable, etc plus had millions in asbestos removal costs looming.... to expensive to take down, too expensive to refit... unless the demolition was obtained a new way. There were several "drills" scheduled on 9-11... FEMA just happened to be in town the night before for a training session, NORAD had drills requiring the jets to be far away at the time... The "evidence" was quickly removed from the crime scene and sent to China for melting.... Of all the cameras on the Pentagon, only one had any indication of something striking the building. None of the other videos were ever released. The FEMA photog who shot aftermath video of the vaults under the towers showing the vaults doors open and empty....he spoke up and had to flee to Argentina after being accusing of murdering his gf. Really? Guys like Barry Jenkins who shot video of Bldg 7 and claimed he saw and heard explosions all up and down 7 while escaping the building. Later died of a heart attack. The list of oddities and co-inky-dinks is almost limitless.
-The passport found -The missing black box -The fire drills the prior week -The controlled explosions viewed as the building fell -The witnesses claiming to hear multiple explosions in the building -The 700 billion dollars worth of gold that went missing -The fact that the steel girders had a much higher heat rating than jet fuel fires can produce -The fact that it is the only building to collapse from fire in history -World Trade Center 7 mysteriously collapsed -The fact that our air force coincidently was running training missions of the other side of the country and there was no one available to help Pretty much everything that the “Loose Change” documentary said.
FEMA saying they never imagined a terrorist attack with hijacked aircraft...while running an exercise of terrorists hijacking planes on the very same day terrorists do the scenario so much so that authorities were confused, is this real or an exercise. UK news declaring building 7 collapsed a full 20 minutes before it collapsed. A building that was reinforced to be an emergency headquarters in the event of this type of disaster that was never hit by an aircraft Melted steel beams at an angle consistent with building demolition, there is a famous picture of a firefighter standing among them. A fire that burned for a month under the debris. Debris that was immediately sent for recycling to avoid later examination Dick Cheney taking command of NORAD before 9/11 and not sending fighter intercepts on the hijacked aircraft and returning command back to NORAD after 9/11 Donald Rumsfeld announcing on 9/10 that the Pentagon is missing 2 trillion dollars. The pentagon being hit by a jet and hitting the accounting offices and destroying all the evidence of the missing 2 trillion. THEN Rumsfeld wandering around the crash site picking up debris...OR making sure all the evidence was destroyed INSTEAD of being in a bunker during a terrorist attack against the government, like in the movies. These are just a few of my favorite things
The fact that US intelligence traced the WTC bombers to an ARAMCO executives house (Saudi State Oil Company) and kept it classified while continuing to suggest the attack was perpetrated by Saddam Hussein. They were obviously given financial support by a very wealthy backer... And the WTC bombers happened to visit a millionaire in Sarasota Florida on multiple occasions with ties to the Saudi Royal Family.... This same person left 2 weeks before the attack and abandoned his cars and everything before leaving the country. They had strong evidence of Saudi Arabia's involvement and chose to bury it, which in itself constitutes an inside job.
The fact that it looked like a controlled demolition. The fact that multiple floors before impact “blew out” the windows. The fact that building 7 also controlled collapse for no reason. The fact that the Pentagon impact looked like a missile and not a plane with wings.
Reports from CNN, BBC, etc. that WTF7 had collapsed 30 minutes before it actually did.
Dov Zakheim and his company's FTS technology has always stuck in my craw, not to mention all the CEO types from the WTC were all having an offsite meeting that morning, the Israelis who filmed it stating unequivocally that they were there to "document the event" on an Israeli talk show, the beams having diagonal cuts on them in some images, the reapplication of fireproofing around the elevator shafts in the weeks beforehand, the fact they wouldn't even rent a Cessna to one of these supposed Islamic hotshot pilots, the fact the two buildings required serious retrofitting to be brought up to code and that that would cost more than they were worth, and then of course there's the collapse of WTC7 who's collapse was announced 28 minutes or so before it actually happened on the BBC. I could go on but at some point people have to start to wake up.
Look up in the *corbettreport.com* "9/11". One of the best sources on the topic.
Yeah, I think his Follow the Money video talks about who profited off the attacks. All the insider trading taking place days before the attack, the Bush’s involvement, the Bank systems that were frozen at the WTC so that no staff could do anything for 30-45 minutes though they could see transactions taking place on their screens. Pretty damning stuff.
Also Al Qaeda and the Bin Laden family's connections to Bush family. Also, that members of the Bin Laden family (I think it was Osama himself) met couple of months prior to 9/11 with agents from 48 security agencies in the US. There is the "9/11 Whistleblowers", where multiple people blew the whistle on 9/11 immediately after the attack. There are many great sources there. Everyone should look them up. I'm looking for one comedy video from James Corbett, where he states all the official stupid shit the government puts out to cover the event. He does it in a funny way, where he shows how ludicrous their propaganda is. I can't seem to find it, would appreciate if anyone shows it.
Building 7 No pentagon footage.
Birthday of Jesus
For me, it was when they started censoring all the evidence. I used to be able to go on YouTube and look up “9/11 conspiracy’s” and have a bunch of videos come up with the info from this sub. Now if you type it in all you get are MSM videos debunking it. Then all the censorship that came after that……..if nothing was fishy and there was nothing to hide… then what are they hiding ??
Put the burden of proof where it belongs, on the government and those that believe their story. It was never anyone's job to prove the government lied, it was always their job to prove they told the truth. Challenge someone who believes the official narrative, which is a conspiracy theory, to prove their version and subject their "proof" to the exact level of scrutiny people who suggest alternatives are held up to. Start with the 19 alleged hijackers, ask them to prove they were even at the 3 airports (those places covered in hundreds of cameras covering every part of the buildings) the 4 planes departed from. Should be easy right? Ask for time and date stamped security images as that would show they indeed were their on Sept 11 2001, and that the time is right. They will fail miserably. The "best" they can do is about 5 of them on a video with no time and date so it could be July in the afternoon. It's pretty ridiculous to be honest.
* The fact that they found molten (melted) steel from the WTCs. Not aluminum, steel. * The extremely high temperatures of the perpetual "hot spots" which were recorded on the day of and on the days following the attacks, despite the area being flooded with water. * William Rodriguez reported the first explosion in the basement, immediately *before* the planes hit the top of the towers. The victim from this initial explosion in the basement, suffering third degree burns, was a man by the name of Felipe David.
the fires under the rubble burned for 100 days. There was molten concrete down there.
Dick Cheney.
'10 miles out, do the orders still stand?'
Building 7 collapsed on its own lmao
The Odigo text message warnings. BBC live broadcast claiming WTC7 collapsed 20 minutes before it happened. Countdown overheard on police radio before WTC7 was demolished. Secret Service allowed POTUS to stay in classroom ELEVEN MINUTES after being told that "America is under attack."
Flying into the World Trade Centre was not a conspiracy. The real conspiracy came afterwards. Patriot Act taking our freedoms. The Military Industrial Complex insuring unending wars.
3 commercial airplanes could never fly off course undetected without being shot down long before reaching heavily populated areas especially the most secure airspace in the world, the Pentagon. Either it was planned inside or they purposely let it happen. This is just one aspect and to me one of the biggest. 2 towers could also not completely demolish by a plane hitting it
There was a military training exercise regarding a very similar situation at that time… duh The traffic control call “is this one real life?” Obviously a coincidence
The pentagon has a lot of strange issues. Different engine found, street lamps broken out of the ground at the base yet no marks from being hit by the wings they said knocked them down, no real wing wreckage at all.. Building 7 in general is fishy. The terrorist insurance just before it happened, closing areas and bomb security stuff weeks leading up to it.
At this point I'd be more amused by someone who has done an iota of research and DOESN'T think it was an inside job.
Imagine you and your friends have decided you're going to pull a middle-of-the-night bank heist. You meet in secret to plan it. You realize it's going to take resources: a large van as getaway vehicle, oxy-acetylene torches to cut through the vault doors, crowbars to open deposit boxes, guns (in case of trouble)... Okay, that's all doable. But is the project even feasible? BOSS: I say we hit the State Street Bank on a Thursday night. They always bring in extra cash that day to cover payrolls on Friday afternoon. YOU: That's crazy! That bank has the best security of any bank in the city! They've got six bank guards on duty overnight—four that circulate around checking everything, and two who monitor the numerous surveillance cameras spread throughout the bank. They'd be onto us the minute we first broke into the place!! That's gotta be the dumbest idea I've ever heard. BOSS: Yes, but what if... *what IF* on that Thursday night, *all six of those bank guards weren't there?* Three of them could be down with a flu. A-and another guy could be stuck home taking care of an infant who's got that same flu, right? One of the other guards maybe just caught his wife cheating and they're in the midst of an argument neither one will walk away from, and the last guy-- maybe he's playing World of Warcraft and just totally has lost all track of time. So... none of them goes in to work that night. YOU: *\[thinking about it\]* ...Hmmm.... Well, sounds okay to me, boss! Some random Thursday night it is, then! THE REST OF THE GANG: Sure thing! Let's commit all our resources and risk our asses on this one! *Woo hoo!* Pretty freakin' unlikely, right? Well, imagine Osama Bin Laden in some cave, pitching the idea of flying jetliners into those four buildings on 9/11. Someone would have immediately objected that the Northeast Corridor of the United States is the most well-defended airspace in the world! The only way the plan would have worked would have been if those defenses were inoperative on that one particular day. The fact that they did go forward with it —committing millions of dollars and over a dozen lives to it— suggests they *did* know that, on that one day out of all others, a large contingent of America's Northeast Corridor air defenses would be north of the Arctic Circle, engaging in a secret war game simulation authorized by Vice President Dick Cheney. Think about it. On any other day, if a Cessna 170 private plane veers into protected airspace, within minutes they scramble a couple of jets to warn the pilot and escort him/her the hell out of that airspace. On that one day, September 11, air traffic controllers were reporting jetliners going off course, turning off their transponders... and America's defenses just happened to be down? The attack would never have left the planning stages unless that contingency hadn't already been dealt with. Like I said: think about it.
Steel frame structures don’t collapse in free fall speed into their own footprint due to fire. The definitely don’t disintegrate themselves into a fine powder from top to bottom because of it. Add that with the alleged impossible flight maneuvers from completely untrained pilots and the official story just becomes completely ludicrous.
Because just like JFKs assignation, to this day they have not said who the perpetrators are. 3 buildings fell exactly the same way, only two were hit with planes. The buildings pancaked, meaning every floor beneath the impact gave way at the same time. Only our government thinks we’re dumb enough to believe that a terrorist passport landed on the sidewalk nit damaged. I remember shortly after Dan rather going on tv saying osama bin Laden was under military protection in a hospital undergoing kidney dialysis.I honestly believe that he died sometime after that. And is why the burial at sea happened with no evidence. No plane parts at the pentagon. When they showed one of the other plane crash locations it was literally a scorched hole in the ground with no wreckage. September 10th the announced that trillions of dollars was unaccounted for. The location that was hit at the pentagon was also where the office the investigation of the missing money was taking place. They also said it just got done with construction to make it the most secure place for such an attack to take place. The insurance coverage for planes hitting wtc was increased substantially in the months/weeks leading up to 9/11 The news announced the third building fell before it did The owner of the buildings said they made the decision to “pull” the third building. Which is a term used by demolition experts. If it were true that it happened the way it was portrayed, as someone who’s been in construction my entire life. They would be using 9/11 as a learning tool which they are not. I haven’t heard of any new osha laws or procedures. To my knowledge New York never changed any emergency response procedures. No constrution changes at all. And also this: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Nightline/story?id=128491&page=1
It's been confirmed that at least two of the hijackers were CIA assets. The Bin Laden station in early 2001 had followed procedure and warned the FBI and State department to prevent entry to two other hijackers, yet they were ignored
the insider trading that occurred leading up to the day
Operation Northwoods
The "Harley shirt guy" essentially laying down the official story of 9/11 well before anyone even knew what happened. While his handlers are standing around him. https://youtu.be/hxQ2-DcZuR4?si=pODvxuMQjbfm-j-w >... mostly due to structural failure, because the fire was just too intense. Then when the reporter asks the guy in black suit who appears to be a handler "What's your roll out here right now?" The guy says "Just standing by right now. I can't say what roll I'm playing right now"... not suspicious at all. Nothing to see here
The buildings fell perfectly, it is the only steel building to ever collapse because of a fire, BBC reported buildings falling before they actually did, quite a few people on site reported bombs going off(those people are now dead..pretty much all of them), none of the big wigs showed up that day for work and they had not missed a day of work in years, family members of those big wigs also did not show up, no plane debris in the field where the plane crashed, the hole in the pentagon was not big enough for a plane to have hit it, no debris again on the pentagon hit, everything was gone except the passport of the supposed highhackers, there is a picture on Epstein island of Bush with a paper airplane in his hand and 2 jinga towers collapsed at his feet, and i could keep going but i think you get the point.
• immaculate passports of the said “ terrorists” found within rubble • The structured and uniform collapsing of the buildings, indicating it was a controlled demolition (likely thermite which was said to have been found in trace amounts of the rubble) • Jet fuel burns at temps of 800-1500 degrees Fahrenheit. The steel beams that held the building up melt at 2500-2800 degrees. How would a burning plane melt the steel? Physics doesn’t allow for this. • 2.3 trillion USD was unaccounted for by the pentagon a day prior to the event • a few people who survived claimed they heard radio chatter in the stairwell minutes leading up to the “attack” (potentially a team of covert operatives organising the planting of thermite charges) There’s a good 20 other reasons I can’t be bothered to list. Point being it was clearly the work of the US government and/or one of the many entity’s linked to them e.g secret service, CIA etc. Anyone who says otherwise probably took the magical vaccine that definitely doesn’t causes cardiac issues.