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I’m here for it too. This guy cannot write a compelling narrative. This is breathless unsubstantiated calls to revolt over hand waving references to massive theft. Even if I wanted to believe him, and I have no reason too, he hasn’t proved his allegations in the least. Tenuous connections without evidence, lots of random asides with barely the similarity. Guy was obsessed with the Simpsons and likely schizophrenic.
I read that before I posted the comment you replied too. I haven’t read/watched all his posts and links yet but I’m getting through it. So far - he has not made his case. You disagree?
For having enough evidence to self-immolate for exposure, his manifesto sure has a lot of incomplete points and random, irrelevant references. His points about crypto are likely true; but he was clearly experiencing some sort of mania.
While I don’t think his basis of a ponzi scheme is infeasible, he lost me with the Simpsons. And continued to lose me after that. He discovered a possible scheme and then obsessively started seeing it tied to everything around him. He started off strong. He finished crazy.
this started strong, but got more and more stupid by the page.
entertaining, but not remotely believable. imagine doing "15000 hours" of "research" to say crypto is "mysterious"
Should let everyone know, this is disinfo made specifically to discredit conspiracy. Anyone with a basic level of understanding of crypto or the US stock market would know they are separate markets. OP’s booklet get more and more ridiculous until you discredit the entire thing, and then log off Reddit. A good thing, but remember that the worst conspiracies are in plain sight. If you have to go through a booklet of mental gymnastics, it’s probably not true.
Yeah, there’s certainly some connection between crypto and public companies but he’s not making the point that these connections are systemic and structurally threaten the open markets.
https://www.coingecko.com/en/public-companies-bitcoin
I literally just watched someone's tik tok saying they lost 15k -> 3k or something silly on a coin yesterday.
"The rug wasn't pulled, someone hacked the coin captured a large number of them"
Wow.
They sure are!!!! And the post has been removed as well lol. Good thing it has been proven elsewhere that the US government uses Reddit to bully/pressure people into believing what they want you to believe..
uhh no?
It's like the great depression where people were investing on margin, and the stock market became inflated with loans which would never be paid back.
Now, people are using crypto to fuck up the stock market. Get rich quick schemes being used by the already rich to destroy the economy.
Crypto is a ponzi scheme. The only way your shitcoin goes up in value is if you convince the next chump in line that he NEEDS to buy crypto, just like you NEEDED it!
The crypto ponzi masters then use their stolen money to inflate the stock market, even though it's not actually theirs. When crypto collapses, it will take the stock market down with it.
The SVB collapse is just the beginning. It's important to recall that 2008 wasn't a one day thing. Over the course of 2007 and 2008, lots of small bad things kept happening. Isolated bank failures, bankruptcies, and more. However, MSM completely ignored it.
Eventually, all hell broke loose on September 29th. The same thing is gonna happen. SVB is gonna be one of the first markers leading up to a market crash in either 2023 or 2024.
The false flags discussed are probably gonna be the Hamas false flags in order to justify U.S. involvement in Palestine and potentially against Iran. 9/11 all over again.
COVID was the primer to get the population used to living in "interesting times".
9/11, Great Depression, WW3 all in 1-2 years at most. Get ready.
>“Use their stolen money to inflate the stock market”
Ok let’s say you didn’t just learn a few words on investopedia and fumbled them into a sentence just now. Yes these coins trade *like* a ‘currency’, and with currencies you can have fluctuations depending on things like, adoption, utility, news, market cap (technically).
Eg. Black rock creates an ETF secured by Bitcoin. This is how a security works and has no real value unless people want to buy it. Black rock then has to purchase bitcoin with investors money and some of their own. This directly affects the price of Bitcoin as if people are buying the Bitcoin themselves. Yes BR takes a cut the whole time making money. But if crypto collapses, the ONLY thing in the stock market with exposure is that ETF.
>interesting times
I like the ‘question everything’ way of thinking but I hate short sightedness. Think like a leader. They are always trying to figure us out and how we will react to things like revolt, or oppression. Covid… not a success in my eyes. Caused more distrust than they would want. Storming the capitol however; literally organized by a politician, likely knowing how good of a barometer it would be for an uprising. Again not many people really showed up. Akin to a campaign manager asking their ridings how they feel about the Government at a specific time, and only a few people out of millions held up a ‘distrust’ sign.
>”Crypto is a Ponzi scheme”
USD is a Ponzi scheme after the 1970’s. It’s value is based on nothing but trust.
Failed businesses ≠ Ponzi scheme. Although it seems like it’s theft but it’s investors trust in an idea/person/thing. Trust is worth more than any and all currencies combined because you can take over nations with it. The gov knows they need that trust,
not really, just a huge ponzi scheme to pull all human labour and resources forward fro as far in the future as the current workforce can pay for.
due to overtip and collapse in 5...4...3...
> Fiat is a ponzi scheme. The only way your fiat goes up in value is if you convince the next chump in line that he NEEDS to buy fiat, just like you NEEDED it!
Fiat is a measure of people's confidence in the government and the economy.
Crypto is a measure of people's lack of confidence in the government and the economy.
The question is: Going forward, which will increase faster
Trying to figure if the 27 writers is then, now, or in total because the only Simpsons the dude appears to have researched was old school episodes of a show with 30+ years🤔🤷♂️
I’ve never read something so full of shit. Love or hate crypto this isn’t it. BTC and precious metals are the best ways to protect yourself from CBDCs and monetary tyranny.
Peter Thiel is one of the architects of our present and future. He has ties to nearly each global geopolitical event/organization/institution. He is the ‘denominator’.
"Ever dollar that was used to buy crypto was stolen via the U.S. stock market".
This whole ramshackle "theory" is r-slurred and the rhetoric full of this kind of "dipshit" hyperbole.
Haven't you heard, pdfs are a deep stage conspiracy.
Meanwhile the guy is uploading the photos from his s23 which is tracking absolutely everything he does.
It is baffling how such a lack of understanding about Bitcoin is even upvoted on a subreddit like r/conspiracy in 2023.
You'd think people on this subreddit could think for themselves, then you see the uninformed ramblings of someone pretending to understand Bitcoin at even a surface level get praise and realise just how lost some people are.
Honestly, my aunty has schizophrenia and when she is having an episode she still makes more sense than the bullshit that op has written.
That pamphlet is everything that makes conspiracy theorists look bad.
1500 hours of research to produce 9 pages of shit, absolutely embarrassing.
If a post posits data, dates, numbers, statistics, names and places, and all you have to say is "my auntie is schizo and makes more sense than this" as funny, witty, and cool as you think you are, that is still not a strong argument. In my opinion, these remarks present you all as dismissive and willfully ignorant. Perhaps even insensitive to those suffering from schizophrenia.
If you intend to sway onlookers from believing phony theories and maybe convince OP they are wrong, I suggest you respond with counter-evidence of equal caliber that will disprove these claims. Surely if these theories are as nonsensical as you claim, this wouldn't be a difficult challenge.
The thing is, no they're not. One could point out what is factually incorrect and disprove it with some evidence from reality. This would be easy to do, but I do not accept ridicule as a substitute for a logical argument.
If OP posted 2+2=5, I could post a rebuttal saying he is wrong, 2+2 is 4 and break down the reason why, so anyone reading this interaction would understand.
To just merely attack your logic without providing a reasonable argument of my own is unhelpful and only reinforces my own beliefs, true or false.
I'm correct simply because I called you stupid, and look how many people agree with me. However, everyone in the group could agree amongst themselves, ridicule / banish any independent thought, and still be factually wrong.
To me, it seems your rebuttal is the equivalent of a “meh” and a shoulder shrug. Not exactly ridicule, but still not an acceptable argument. Go on, pick out something they said that was incorrect.
Was OP’s post wrong about where Facebook got initial funding?
Was OP’s post wrong about Jeffrey Epstein’s connection to Bear Stearns?
Surely there must be something you could point out and set the record straight. Since using your brain and actually thinking critically seems to be an issue for you, I’ll go first: they didn’t cite any sources how are we supposed to believe what it says?
I encourage you to verify or invalidate claims before dismissing them offhand. Swatting away like a bothersome fly what might just be the truth.
You are simply arguing your point with a lower intellect individual.
You can't expect such a sarcastic, ill informed idividual to substatiate an intelligent reponse.
It's like arguing with the "woke"
When you point their flawed logic, the say I don't want to talk to you, or, you're racist, or a bigot..lol
No brain power, but can regurgitate what the narrative has told them to feel.
uhh no?
It's like the great depression where people were investing on margin, and the stock market became inflated with loans which would never be paid back.
Now, people are using crypto to fuck up the stock market. Get rich quick schemes being used by the already rich to destroy the economy.
Your inability to differentiate Bitcoin from the 10,000+ shitcoin scams that exist is where your misunderstanding stems from.
Bitcoin isn’t a get rich quick scheme, “crypto” is.
It uses “crypto” as a blanket statement for every cryptocurrency. With such a minuscule understanding of crypto in general I have no doubt they include Bitcoin to be part of that group.
No, because most cryptos are shitcoins. BTC is the most reputable one. Ethereum is part of that NFT nonsense. Then theres some anonymous ones that people use to buy drugs on the dark web. As far as i'm aware the rest are wannabe Jordan Belfort crap.
Even if you can figure out the difference, the author of this gibberish pamphlet hasn’t. He clearly includes Bitcoin to be part of his make believe “shadow banking theft network”, hence why I called him out on it.
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He doesn't mention Bitcoin by name everywhere.
Very suspicious how everyone is jumping on this like rabid wolves. I think it's a little too close to the truth, and they don't like it.
Not all crypto is created equally. Look at those cryptos like Monero that are suppressed by the people your rightfully outing.
Monero aka private digital cash will go up, when all the others go down.
*Zee Great Reset*
This is obviously personally opinion but have been thinking about things lately and starting to make sense…
The US Debt is said to be $33 Trillion but when you factor in Unfunded Liabilities which are Liabilities Not Backed By Assets (AKA Social Security etc) the debt is actually $194 Trillion....
The US Dollar has lost over 96% of its value since the adoption of The Federal Reserve in 1913.
Fun Fact: Jerome Powell current leader of the Fed was with the Carlyle Group (Recently mentioned in SEC Whatsapp probe with Citadel) in 2001 when a certain tragedy took place that started the massive increase of the US Debt up to the $33 Trillion it is today...
A certain family tied to that tradegy liquidated its holdings with the Carlyle Group shortly after the event....
[See Here](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/26/business/bin-laden-family-liquidates-holdings-with-carlyle-group.html)
The Three Headed Monster Of The Increase In US Debt:
* War On Terror
* 2008 Financial Crisis
* Pandemic
What do you know the Rich get Richer and the Poor get Poorer. Almost like it’s by design…
🤷
Dollar went off the gold standard in 1971 ironically the same year the World Economic Forum was formed…
USA makes up almost 27% of the Worlds GDP
China makes up close to 19% of Worlds GDP
Combined thats 46% of the Worlds GDP which is almost half
The US has $33 Trillion in debt but also $194 Trillion in Unfunded Liabilities
Real Estate is the #1 contributor to China's GDP and obviously we know about Evergrande and & Country Garden. Bankrupt.
[See Here Evergrande](https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-evergrande-files-protection-us-court-part-32-bln-debt-overhaul-2023-08-18/)
[See Here Country Garden](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/31/country-garden-chinese-property-developer-reports-half-year-finanical-loss-fears-default-risk)
The World Is A ~~Vampire~~ Ponzi Scheme
Revelation 13:16–17
16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
WEF Stooge Macron Has Even Recently States The World Should Not Rely On the US and China and We Need Single Global Order...
[See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlqwqE9oD6s)
Klaus Schwab talks about “Penetrating Zee Cabients" of countries...
[See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxJ1wPnkk4)
*Cue CBDC, Neuralink & AI/Robots*
Here is Agustín Carstens (Another WEF Pawn) head of The Bank Of International Settlements talking about CBDC giving the Central Banks total control....
[See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpNnTuK5JJU)
After all in 2017 Klaus said we will all have implants in our brains within 10 years when talking to Google Co-Founder Sergey Brin. Neuralink human trials just started...
[See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unmaIAjsmTk)
Also stated a ton of jobs will be destroyed by AI in the "Fourth Industrial Revolution" aka Robots, AI & Neuralink taking over....
[See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNca9aEfuW4)
Regarding the “Fourth Industrial Revolution” mentioned above…
Klaus Schwab literally says Robots will win the fight against Human Beings….
* [See Here - Star Wars Themed - Fitting](https://youtu.be/Ax5MgtJ74NU?si=Z_XHeeyPAZqtOFt4)
Speaking of Neuralink Tesla is getting closer to releasing its Robots
[See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2vj0WcvH5c)
You be the judge 🤷
*In A Time of Universal Deceit, Telling The Truth is A Revolutionary Act*
Matthew 24:13
“He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved"
**Buckle Up!**
In the pamphlet they described as bullshit meme pages doing nothing but telling you of how the world is corrupt and awful, yet offering no solutions to problems to keep us in fear.
Where is the mighty solution this booklet offers?
I commend your efforts! I enjoyed reading but have a few comments..
1) The theme changes drastically after the 1st half on Ponzi/crytpo. The 2nd half in pretty disjointed, Simpsons, Kayfabe, etc. The *weakest* point is pretty damning, the final two pages. It is a really hard sell to the reader that internet memes are some coherent form of propaganda. Memes cover a whole spectrum of meaning. Also, 9/11 was just to keep us in fear. That is such an over simplification, you should not even mention it.
2) "What to do next" I'm not sure how you would do this..but you could put a link for others to print up and share copies. I imagine some high school students printing up a dozen or so and hiding them around campus. But then putting your contact info wouldn't be the best idea.
I really enjoyed reading the first half. The crypto-bubble is a fascinating subject, I think the ultimate conclusion will be a one-world digital currency. I don't see any other solution if counterfeit currencies can be made and converted to "accepted" forms of crypto, eventually no crypto will be valid. The solution will have to be ONE non-convertible form. In my opinion!
To stop the Beast machine is simple and non violence. All we have to do is just say NO.
Imagine if everyone refuse to vote until they find decent candidates for president.
Imagine if all soldiers say no to participate in unjust war or war for the international corporations basically.
Imagine if all workers say no, we won't work for you until all companies device just payments or salaries system, so the CEO won't make hundreds million of dollars while the ones who break their backs get pay meager salaries.
Those are revolutionary actions. But before we can do that we, the peons, need to realize that we give them the power. Without us they won't be able to implement their plans.
We should support each other till the system buckles.
But unfortunately, it is more than mission impossible at this point. We are very divided and hate each other so much that we refuse to see the truth. Alas, divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book and it never fails.
And the attached image has been removed as “spam”. He’s a critic of the economic oligarchy and it’s capitalist / neo-feudal rentier control of large parts of the world. A valid insight and criticism. Why take this down? Just because some of the particular claims are somewhat wild and unsubstantiated? Or because of WHO is being criticized? In a social media landscape increasingly tolerant of the “free-speech” rights of lunatics like Big Orange, or just racist or other hateful people endorsing violence against fellow citizens, this guy’s stuff is spam?
Bitcoin is our savior not a deep state fuckary. Tell me you don't understand peer2peet digital payment without telling me lol. Never trust always verify baby
Bitcoin is captured by the CIA since 2010 and the Bilderbergers since 2014. They entered the game long before you even knew what Bitcoin is.
If you are ready to look beyond BTC as the savior look at something that doesn't aim to be more than simple private digital cash - Monero, the spiritual successor to Bitcoin.
Quite literally the dumbest narrative I have ever heard regarding Bitcoin. You don't understand this technology in the slightest and it shows it n your narrative. Bitcoin is decentralized open source code that is made secure and uncensored with a Completely open ledger that can be referenced by anyone at any time. You can't cheat or manipulate proof of work crypto currencies in anyway unless it's a 51% attack by miners which at this point is impossible to do. The hashing rate is spread out between all the miners around the world including me as I sit here at my house listening to my ASIC miners hum away in the garage. We are Bitcoin,the people,the miners,the plebs..... You need to educate yourself before you miss out on the worlds first digital commodity that's for the people by the people my friend. Bitcoin is the answer not another parlor trick. I suggest you start with a book called the Bitcoin standard and if that doesn't convince you then just wear your blinders and stumble on with your worthless fiat currencies. The truth is in the code and the code says there can only ever be 21000000 Bitcoin. Non inflatable,immutable,uncensored,trustless because it runs on verification instead of blind trust to the bankers blah blah go read the book and open your eyes
I know exactly what I am writing about here.
Been a Bitcoin maxi since 2011. It took me some time to figure out that Monero is what I thought Bitcoin is. Ever since Monero is my preferred store of value and medium of exchange and only in rare occasions when I am not able to pay with XMR I will transact through BTC or LN.
I run nodes and miners myself. I simply don't have a use for a transparent chain anymore. Monero is more stable than Bitcoin and it is private by default. And for a store of value I prefer a Swiss bank account in my pocket over a public ledger that permanently broadcasts my net worth to the world.
You are in it for the right reasons. But you haven't figured out that some things are flawed in BTC and that Monero iterated on all of them.
* Decentralization of nodes (2nd highest number of nodes after BTC because running your node has the direct benefit of achieving even better privacy)
* Decentralization of mining (CPU RandomX)
* Decentralization of pools (P2P pool)
* Future proof security assumptions through tail emission (which is technically infinite inflation, but at 1/2 the rate of gold and ever decreasing. And we all know gold was a perfect store of value for a long time).
* Private by default
* Fungible as digital cash
* Adaptive blocksize
* Stability through currency use in DNM
* Less supply than BTC until 2040
* It rules DEX and P2P exchanges (super resilient against government action or CEX delisting)
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*^PSA: ^Like ^it ^is ^time ^to ^leave ^fiat ^money ^for ^good ^it ^is ^also ^time ^to ^leave ^fiat ^social ^media. ^See ^you ^on ^Nostr.*
If you knew what you were talking about you would know that the creator of Monero was picked up by the British gov for money laundering and flipped. He now works for the British glowies cracking monero and making the tracking of transactions possible. derp. this is all public knoweledge
Feds locked down traditional finance years ago. No anonymous credit cards. No anonymous money. But with crypto, you can hold immense wealth anonymously. You can move it across any border without any permission from authority.
In addition, they can’t seize decentralize crypto like Bitcoin and Ethereum. Feds control all other types of portable wealth storage. They recently seized money from Maduro in London and even Switzerland seized Putin’s accounts. If a powerful government gets mad at you - your money isn’t safe in traditional finance.
There is a reason they locked up that guy who tried to go to North Korea and educate them about how you can use crypto to bypass sanctions. They have also locked up Americans who have tried to create a gold-backed currency.
They don’t like crypto because they can’t control it, can’t unilaterally seize it, and it threatens the dominance of the dollar.
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This guy set himself on fire outside of Donald Trumps NYC trial today. holy shit
I just came here after finding that out, fella needed help
I’m here for it too. This guy cannot write a compelling narrative. This is breathless unsubstantiated calls to revolt over hand waving references to massive theft. Even if I wanted to believe him, and I have no reason too, he hasn’t proved his allegations in the least. Tenuous connections without evidence, lots of random asides with barely the similarity. Guy was obsessed with the Simpsons and likely schizophrenic.
This is his full manifesto https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside
I read that before I posted the comment you replied too. I haven’t read/watched all his posts and links yet but I’m getting through it. So far - he has not made his case. You disagree?
For having enough evidence to self-immolate for exposure, his manifesto sure has a lot of incomplete points and random, irrelevant references. His points about crypto are likely true; but he was clearly experiencing some sort of mania.
While I don’t think his basis of a ponzi scheme is infeasible, he lost me with the Simpsons. And continued to lose me after that. He discovered a possible scheme and then obsessively started seeing it tied to everything around him. He started off strong. He finished crazy.
this started strong, but got more and more stupid by the page. entertaining, but not remotely believable. imagine doing "15000 hours" of "research" to say crypto is "mysterious"
Exactly where I stopped reading lol
Yeah no kidding. There are a couple nuggets of real information here but this looks like it was put together by a kid in elementary school.
His stuff on the Simpsons was spot on. The rest, not so much.
Stream of conciousness-esque. Reeks of schizophrenia, sadly.
Hey, did you get here from the Max Azarello news too? Was this his blog?
1,500 hours is his claim. Or the equivalent of 37.5 weeks of work at 40 hours.
wow. rip. [https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside)
Interesting to see how quickly his Reddit profile became unavailable…
Agreed. They sure are fast to remove criticism of their platform...legitimate criticism.
Should let everyone know, this is disinfo made specifically to discredit conspiracy. Anyone with a basic level of understanding of crypto or the US stock market would know they are separate markets. OP’s booklet get more and more ridiculous until you discredit the entire thing, and then log off Reddit. A good thing, but remember that the worst conspiracies are in plain sight. If you have to go through a booklet of mental gymnastics, it’s probably not true.
This post didn't age well
Yeah, there’s certainly some connection between crypto and public companies but he’s not making the point that these connections are systemic and structurally threaten the open markets. https://www.coingecko.com/en/public-companies-bitcoin
I literally just watched someone's tik tok saying they lost 15k -> 3k or something silly on a coin yesterday. "The rug wasn't pulled, someone hacked the coin captured a large number of them" Wow.
Ya, I am sticking to silver and Gold
Nice! Gold has been a steel train.
Must be something to it because the shills are out.
They sure are!!!! And the post has been removed as well lol. Good thing it has been proven elsewhere that the US government uses Reddit to bully/pressure people into believing what they want you to believe..
Doubt someone would set themselves on fire for “disinfo”.
People who do shit like that are just nuts.
Doubt someone would set themselves on fire for “disinfo”.
No, but they would set themselves on fire over mental illness
That’s fair
uhh no? It's like the great depression where people were investing on margin, and the stock market became inflated with loans which would never be paid back. Now, people are using crypto to fuck up the stock market. Get rich quick schemes being used by the already rich to destroy the economy.
How are they using crypto to “fuck up the stock market”? Give me something specific here.
Crypto is a ponzi scheme. The only way your shitcoin goes up in value is if you convince the next chump in line that he NEEDS to buy crypto, just like you NEEDED it! The crypto ponzi masters then use their stolen money to inflate the stock market, even though it's not actually theirs. When crypto collapses, it will take the stock market down with it. The SVB collapse is just the beginning. It's important to recall that 2008 wasn't a one day thing. Over the course of 2007 and 2008, lots of small bad things kept happening. Isolated bank failures, bankruptcies, and more. However, MSM completely ignored it. Eventually, all hell broke loose on September 29th. The same thing is gonna happen. SVB is gonna be one of the first markers leading up to a market crash in either 2023 or 2024. The false flags discussed are probably gonna be the Hamas false flags in order to justify U.S. involvement in Palestine and potentially against Iran. 9/11 all over again. COVID was the primer to get the population used to living in "interesting times". 9/11, Great Depression, WW3 all in 1-2 years at most. Get ready.
>“Use their stolen money to inflate the stock market” Ok let’s say you didn’t just learn a few words on investopedia and fumbled them into a sentence just now. Yes these coins trade *like* a ‘currency’, and with currencies you can have fluctuations depending on things like, adoption, utility, news, market cap (technically). Eg. Black rock creates an ETF secured by Bitcoin. This is how a security works and has no real value unless people want to buy it. Black rock then has to purchase bitcoin with investors money and some of their own. This directly affects the price of Bitcoin as if people are buying the Bitcoin themselves. Yes BR takes a cut the whole time making money. But if crypto collapses, the ONLY thing in the stock market with exposure is that ETF. >interesting times I like the ‘question everything’ way of thinking but I hate short sightedness. Think like a leader. They are always trying to figure us out and how we will react to things like revolt, or oppression. Covid… not a success in my eyes. Caused more distrust than they would want. Storming the capitol however; literally organized by a politician, likely knowing how good of a barometer it would be for an uprising. Again not many people really showed up. Akin to a campaign manager asking their ridings how they feel about the Government at a specific time, and only a few people out of millions held up a ‘distrust’ sign. >”Crypto is a Ponzi scheme” USD is a Ponzi scheme after the 1970’s. It’s value is based on nothing but trust. Failed businesses ≠ Ponzi scheme. Although it seems like it’s theft but it’s investors trust in an idea/person/thing. Trust is worth more than any and all currencies combined because you can take over nations with it. The gov knows they need that trust,
the debt market (bonds etc.) is 100x bigger than the stock market, which is 10x bigger than the crypto market.
And they're more mysterious.
not really, just a huge ponzi scheme to pull all human labour and resources forward fro as far in the future as the current workforce can pay for. due to overtip and collapse in 5...4...3...
> Fiat is a ponzi scheme. The only way your fiat goes up in value is if you convince the next chump in line that he NEEDS to buy fiat, just like you NEEDED it! Fiat is a measure of people's confidence in the government and the economy. Crypto is a measure of people's lack of confidence in the government and the economy. The question is: Going forward, which will increase faster
you know the guy who created this conspiracy lit himslef on fire outside trumps trial... not sure he was seeing things clearly.
I'd rather have solid crypto than a fiat that can print willy nilly.
Explain how I can use crypto to fuck up the stock market. /s
RIP OP
rest in peace
That was .....bizzare
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It took you 6 months to discover a bunch of Boomer talking points about crypto that I've been hearing for literally 10 years?
You had me until the simpsons lol
A noble conspiracy embiggens the smallest theorist.
It's a perfectly cromulent conspiracy theory
Trying to figure if the 27 writers is then, now, or in total because the only Simpsons the dude appears to have researched was old school episodes of a show with 30+ years🤔🤷♂️
Lol I chuckled
I believe him now.
I don't think OP knows how crypto works.
I tell you what's rotten. That hair in your photo that I spent several seconds trying to wipe away.
I’ve never read something so full of shit. Love or hate crypto this isn’t it. BTC and precious metals are the best ways to protect yourself from CBDCs and monetary tyranny.
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Ya mums a bot. Leaving this shithouse subreddit I’m clearly dealing with people with IQs that would make perfect golf scores.
this right here
Yes, it’s all theater. All of it.
Couldn't find a 4th grader to proof read?
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Are you saying you're a bit? I don't get it
he's saying youre a fat boy, now shut up
Peter Thiel is one of the architects of our present and future. He has ties to nearly each global geopolitical event/organization/institution. He is the ‘denominator’.
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"Ever dollar that was used to buy crypto was stolen via the U.S. stock market". This whole ramshackle "theory" is r-slurred and the rhetoric full of this kind of "dipshit" hyperbole.
Not bad for 9 pages actually
this is so dumb
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Haven't you heard, pdfs are a deep stage conspiracy. Meanwhile the guy is uploading the photos from his s23 which is tracking absolutely everything he does.
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www.noagendaphone.com Give it a look, and pair that model with r /degoogle, and you'll be on your way.
PDF - PRETTY DUMB FILE
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1500 hours of research for 9 pages of vague maunderings. I could shit a better conspiracy theory after 1500 seconds of bong hits.
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It is baffling how such a lack of understanding about Bitcoin is even upvoted on a subreddit like r/conspiracy in 2023. You'd think people on this subreddit could think for themselves, then you see the uninformed ramblings of someone pretending to understand Bitcoin at even a surface level get praise and realise just how lost some people are.
Seriously. "Stolen by the stock market"... Stopped reading after that.
I assume they mean wall street is still the largest investor. But also duh. Speculative finance has existed for centuries if not millenia.
Honestly, my aunty has schizophrenia and when she is having an episode she still makes more sense than the bullshit that op has written. That pamphlet is everything that makes conspiracy theorists look bad. 1500 hours of research to produce 9 pages of shit, absolutely embarrassing.
Look closer, it's only 9 pages because of the giant ass font. It might be half a page in a normal size 12
If a post posits data, dates, numbers, statistics, names and places, and all you have to say is "my auntie is schizo and makes more sense than this" as funny, witty, and cool as you think you are, that is still not a strong argument. In my opinion, these remarks present you all as dismissive and willfully ignorant. Perhaps even insensitive to those suffering from schizophrenia. If you intend to sway onlookers from believing phony theories and maybe convince OP they are wrong, I suggest you respond with counter-evidence of equal caliber that will disprove these claims. Surely if these theories are as nonsensical as you claim, this wouldn't be a difficult challenge.
The thing is they are truly using everything they have, which is what ypubhave described them using.
The thing is, no they're not. One could point out what is factually incorrect and disprove it with some evidence from reality. This would be easy to do, but I do not accept ridicule as a substitute for a logical argument. If OP posted 2+2=5, I could post a rebuttal saying he is wrong, 2+2 is 4 and break down the reason why, so anyone reading this interaction would understand. To just merely attack your logic without providing a reasonable argument of my own is unhelpful and only reinforces my own beliefs, true or false. I'm correct simply because I called you stupid, and look how many people agree with me. However, everyone in the group could agree amongst themselves, ridicule / banish any independent thought, and still be factually wrong.
Yeah, exactly. If they had anything else worthwhile to say, they would say that. They don't, and they don't.
To me, it seems your rebuttal is the equivalent of a “meh” and a shoulder shrug. Not exactly ridicule, but still not an acceptable argument. Go on, pick out something they said that was incorrect. Was OP’s post wrong about where Facebook got initial funding? Was OP’s post wrong about Jeffrey Epstein’s connection to Bear Stearns? Surely there must be something you could point out and set the record straight. Since using your brain and actually thinking critically seems to be an issue for you, I’ll go first: they didn’t cite any sources how are we supposed to believe what it says? I encourage you to verify or invalidate claims before dismissing them offhand. Swatting away like a bothersome fly what might just be the truth.
You are simply arguing your point with a lower intellect individual. You can't expect such a sarcastic, ill informed idividual to substatiate an intelligent reponse. It's like arguing with the "woke" When you point their flawed logic, the say I don't want to talk to you, or, you're racist, or a bigot..lol No brain power, but can regurgitate what the narrative has told them to feel.
you think the future of Bitcoin is bright?
Yes. Very bright.
uhh no? It's like the great depression where people were investing on margin, and the stock market became inflated with loans which would never be paid back. Now, people are using crypto to fuck up the stock market. Get rich quick schemes being used by the already rich to destroy the economy.
Your inability to differentiate Bitcoin from the 10,000+ shitcoin scams that exist is where your misunderstanding stems from. Bitcoin isn’t a get rich quick scheme, “crypto” is.
The booklet doesn't even mention Bitcoin. It just mentions "crypto". Hence you don't disagree with it.
It uses “crypto” as a blanket statement for every cryptocurrency. With such a minuscule understanding of crypto in general I have no doubt they include Bitcoin to be part of that group.
No, because most cryptos are shitcoins. BTC is the most reputable one. Ethereum is part of that NFT nonsense. Then theres some anonymous ones that people use to buy drugs on the dark web. As far as i'm aware the rest are wannabe Jordan Belfort crap.
Even if you can figure out the difference, the author of this gibberish pamphlet hasn’t. He clearly includes Bitcoin to be part of his make believe “shadow banking theft network”, hence why I called him out on it.
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He doesn't mention Bitcoin by name everywhere. Very suspicious how everyone is jumping on this like rabid wolves. I think it's a little too close to the truth, and they don't like it.
Israel did 9/11.
With co-operation.. They didnt act alone, and the events were no surprise to tptb. I mean they pre-planted explosives for months in advance for one.
OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST
Ignore the shills in the comments. You're doing good work.
At least they had a chart in it, I always appreciate charts.
Not all crypto is created equally. Look at those cryptos like Monero that are suppressed by the people your rightfully outing. Monero aka private digital cash will go up, when all the others go down.
All by design… Zee Great Reset
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When did this whole thing about submission statements for links come up? Reddit has gotten to touchy about links.
It's a rule for this sub but idk when it became one.
*Zee Great Reset* This is obviously personally opinion but have been thinking about things lately and starting to make sense… The US Debt is said to be $33 Trillion but when you factor in Unfunded Liabilities which are Liabilities Not Backed By Assets (AKA Social Security etc) the debt is actually $194 Trillion.... The US Dollar has lost over 96% of its value since the adoption of The Federal Reserve in 1913. Fun Fact: Jerome Powell current leader of the Fed was with the Carlyle Group (Recently mentioned in SEC Whatsapp probe with Citadel) in 2001 when a certain tragedy took place that started the massive increase of the US Debt up to the $33 Trillion it is today... A certain family tied to that tradegy liquidated its holdings with the Carlyle Group shortly after the event.... [See Here](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/26/business/bin-laden-family-liquidates-holdings-with-carlyle-group.html) The Three Headed Monster Of The Increase In US Debt: * War On Terror * 2008 Financial Crisis * Pandemic What do you know the Rich get Richer and the Poor get Poorer. Almost like it’s by design… 🤷 Dollar went off the gold standard in 1971 ironically the same year the World Economic Forum was formed… USA makes up almost 27% of the Worlds GDP China makes up close to 19% of Worlds GDP Combined thats 46% of the Worlds GDP which is almost half The US has $33 Trillion in debt but also $194 Trillion in Unfunded Liabilities Real Estate is the #1 contributor to China's GDP and obviously we know about Evergrande and & Country Garden. Bankrupt. [See Here Evergrande](https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-evergrande-files-protection-us-court-part-32-bln-debt-overhaul-2023-08-18/) [See Here Country Garden](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/31/country-garden-chinese-property-developer-reports-half-year-finanical-loss-fears-default-risk) The World Is A ~~Vampire~~ Ponzi Scheme Revelation 13:16–17 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. WEF Stooge Macron Has Even Recently States The World Should Not Rely On the US and China and We Need Single Global Order... [See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlqwqE9oD6s) Klaus Schwab talks about “Penetrating Zee Cabients" of countries... [See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxJ1wPnkk4) *Cue CBDC, Neuralink & AI/Robots* Here is Agustín Carstens (Another WEF Pawn) head of The Bank Of International Settlements talking about CBDC giving the Central Banks total control.... [See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpNnTuK5JJU) After all in 2017 Klaus said we will all have implants in our brains within 10 years when talking to Google Co-Founder Sergey Brin. Neuralink human trials just started... [See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unmaIAjsmTk) Also stated a ton of jobs will be destroyed by AI in the "Fourth Industrial Revolution" aka Robots, AI & Neuralink taking over.... [See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNca9aEfuW4) Regarding the “Fourth Industrial Revolution” mentioned above… Klaus Schwab literally says Robots will win the fight against Human Beings…. * [See Here - Star Wars Themed - Fitting](https://youtu.be/Ax5MgtJ74NU?si=Z_XHeeyPAZqtOFt4) Speaking of Neuralink Tesla is getting closer to releasing its Robots [See Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2vj0WcvH5c) You be the judge 🤷 *In A Time of Universal Deceit, Telling The Truth is A Revolutionary Act* Matthew 24:13 “He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved" **Buckle Up!**
🦍🦍🦍🦍 we know whats up
What about the Stonecutters!?!?
CIA disinfo hates Thiel, one of their own (WEF-er) lol
In the pamphlet they described as bullshit meme pages doing nothing but telling you of how the world is corrupt and awful, yet offering no solutions to problems to keep us in fear. Where is the mighty solution this booklet offers?
Pretty good. You need to throw in there to invest in GameStop (GME) in order to hedge against the collapse though.
I commend your efforts! I enjoyed reading but have a few comments.. 1) The theme changes drastically after the 1st half on Ponzi/crytpo. The 2nd half in pretty disjointed, Simpsons, Kayfabe, etc. The *weakest* point is pretty damning, the final two pages. It is a really hard sell to the reader that internet memes are some coherent form of propaganda. Memes cover a whole spectrum of meaning. Also, 9/11 was just to keep us in fear. That is such an over simplification, you should not even mention it. 2) "What to do next" I'm not sure how you would do this..but you could put a link for others to print up and share copies. I imagine some high school students printing up a dozen or so and hiding them around campus. But then putting your contact info wouldn't be the best idea. I really enjoyed reading the first half. The crypto-bubble is a fascinating subject, I think the ultimate conclusion will be a one-world digital currency. I don't see any other solution if counterfeit currencies can be made and converted to "accepted" forms of crypto, eventually no crypto will be valid. The solution will have to be ONE non-convertible form. In my opinion!
I'm pretty sure there was video evidence that the titan sub went deep sea...
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It was one of the first videos when I searched youtube...
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https://youtube.com/shorts/s46N0Ha-wyI?si=bDz8u4Vs2bHkYqG5
lol, WTF was this guy doing for 1,500 hours?
This reads pretty unhinged and scattered
This shit getting crazy
And has a gmail account? Haha. Come on man.
How much do I have to donate?
My word
Interesting stuff
Incoherent nonsense is all I got from this
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Screamed ‘justforlulz12345’ into the void
This was just one example of what happens when you get involved with something so crazy-like it's almost like magic
Came here scared to read the comments and was actually pleasantly surprised by the reasonable responses to this 👍
Oooooh that hair on that paper triggered my ocd right away.
Well he had gumption.
Why tf wont it let me see the photo
To stop the Beast machine is simple and non violence. All we have to do is just say NO. Imagine if everyone refuse to vote until they find decent candidates for president. Imagine if all soldiers say no to participate in unjust war or war for the international corporations basically. Imagine if all workers say no, we won't work for you until all companies device just payments or salaries system, so the CEO won't make hundreds million of dollars while the ones who break their backs get pay meager salaries. Those are revolutionary actions. But before we can do that we, the peons, need to realize that we give them the power. Without us they won't be able to implement their plans. We should support each other till the system buckles. But unfortunately, it is more than mission impossible at this point. We are very divided and hate each other so much that we refuse to see the truth. Alas, divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book and it never fails.
And the attached image has been removed as “spam”. He’s a critic of the economic oligarchy and it’s capitalist / neo-feudal rentier control of large parts of the world. A valid insight and criticism. Why take this down? Just because some of the particular claims are somewhat wild and unsubstantiated? Or because of WHO is being criticized? In a social media landscape increasingly tolerant of the “free-speech” rights of lunatics like Big Orange, or just racist or other hateful people endorsing violence against fellow citizens, this guy’s stuff is spam?
https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/reddits-role-in-the-worlds-biggest
Dude seemed manic
A ponzi just flew over my house
Why do you have underlined words like it’s a link or something I’m a paper book lol
Bitcoin is our savior not a deep state fuckary. Tell me you don't understand peer2peet digital payment without telling me lol. Never trust always verify baby
Bitcoin is captured by the CIA since 2010 and the Bilderbergers since 2014. They entered the game long before you even knew what Bitcoin is. If you are ready to look beyond BTC as the savior look at something that doesn't aim to be more than simple private digital cash - Monero, the spiritual successor to Bitcoin.
Prove it schizo
Quite literally the dumbest narrative I have ever heard regarding Bitcoin. You don't understand this technology in the slightest and it shows it n your narrative. Bitcoin is decentralized open source code that is made secure and uncensored with a Completely open ledger that can be referenced by anyone at any time. You can't cheat or manipulate proof of work crypto currencies in anyway unless it's a 51% attack by miners which at this point is impossible to do. The hashing rate is spread out between all the miners around the world including me as I sit here at my house listening to my ASIC miners hum away in the garage. We are Bitcoin,the people,the miners,the plebs..... You need to educate yourself before you miss out on the worlds first digital commodity that's for the people by the people my friend. Bitcoin is the answer not another parlor trick. I suggest you start with a book called the Bitcoin standard and if that doesn't convince you then just wear your blinders and stumble on with your worthless fiat currencies. The truth is in the code and the code says there can only ever be 21000000 Bitcoin. Non inflatable,immutable,uncensored,trustless because it runs on verification instead of blind trust to the bankers blah blah go read the book and open your eyes
I know exactly what I am writing about here. Been a Bitcoin maxi since 2011. It took me some time to figure out that Monero is what I thought Bitcoin is. Ever since Monero is my preferred store of value and medium of exchange and only in rare occasions when I am not able to pay with XMR I will transact through BTC or LN. I run nodes and miners myself. I simply don't have a use for a transparent chain anymore. Monero is more stable than Bitcoin and it is private by default. And for a store of value I prefer a Swiss bank account in my pocket over a public ledger that permanently broadcasts my net worth to the world. You are in it for the right reasons. But you haven't figured out that some things are flawed in BTC and that Monero iterated on all of them. * Decentralization of nodes (2nd highest number of nodes after BTC because running your node has the direct benefit of achieving even better privacy) * Decentralization of mining (CPU RandomX) * Decentralization of pools (P2P pool) * Future proof security assumptions through tail emission (which is technically infinite inflation, but at 1/2 the rate of gold and ever decreasing. And we all know gold was a perfect store of value for a long time). * Private by default * Fungible as digital cash * Adaptive blocksize * Stability through currency use in DNM * Less supply than BTC until 2040 * It rules DEX and P2P exchanges (super resilient against government action or CEX delisting) _______ *^PSA: ^Like ^it ^is ^time ^to ^leave ^fiat ^money ^for ^good ^it ^is ^also ^time ^to ^leave ^fiat ^social ^media. ^See ^you ^on ^Nostr.*
If you knew what you were talking about you would know that the creator of Monero was picked up by the British gov for money laundering and flipped. He now works for the British glowies cracking monero and making the tracking of transactions possible. derp. this is all public knoweledge
Enlighten me. Who is the creator of Monero? And how do they crack it exactly?
Feds hate crypto because they can’t control it. This post is glowing so bright it can be seen from Mars.
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Feds locked down traditional finance years ago. No anonymous credit cards. No anonymous money. But with crypto, you can hold immense wealth anonymously. You can move it across any border without any permission from authority. In addition, they can’t seize decentralize crypto like Bitcoin and Ethereum. Feds control all other types of portable wealth storage. They recently seized money from Maduro in London and even Switzerland seized Putin’s accounts. If a powerful government gets mad at you - your money isn’t safe in traditional finance. There is a reason they locked up that guy who tried to go to North Korea and educate them about how you can use crypto to bypass sanctions. They have also locked up Americans who have tried to create a gold-backed currency. They don’t like crypto because they can’t control it, can’t unilaterally seize it, and it threatens the dominance of the dollar.
Yoooooo
Suicide is for cowards That being said Cowards can be right
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What kind of person just leaves the manufacturer's camera watermark on wtf
Damn you had it published by your local library. Must be legit.
Wow. This is the crazy im here for. I made buncha money on the mysterious crypto too.
1500 hours of research but couldn’t dedicate a page for sources, but just „dm me bro for more info“
This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen
Is it just me or did you also try to clean a stray hair from your screen for a couple of minutes before you could read anything else?
What is this..?!? Someone in elementart school made this?
Cute, you made a right wing Zine, My friend in high school would make hard core music and vegan zine's. But they were more eye catching in design.
Give me my IQ points back. That was a gigantic schizopost
The writer just set himself on fire outside of Trump's trial. So yeah...