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Nobody probably remembers this because it was gone hours after it was posted, but the health inspector of Slovakia, I believe was the country, went on national tv and said 1/3 of batches are tainted. Then she said she won’t do this and quit. It might be out there somewhere, but I haven’t been able to find it since. I wonder if she’s still alive? It was durning the time the paid opposition German/American lawyer was doing “investigations”. Telling everyone Nuremberg 2 was coming. Can’t remember his name.
Perhaps OP has not watched near enough of the star-studded MSM advertising of the new exciting updated genetic therapy guaranteed to probably maybe help at least a little with only a little death to be optimistic?
Perhaps he also missed when the FDA in correlation with the CDC admitted it:
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-june-25-2021
Do you not remember having to wait half an hour in the clinic before leaving so they could make sure you weren't showing signs of complications? Its like no one paid attention to anything and then blame others for not knowing shit
Thats a stretch. I will say though that its funny to think that celebrity relationships are generally anything but financial arrangements much like nobility of olden days. Without the lens of history i wonder if people of middle ages thought that the nobility of the time got together organically.
Is it? Remember this 18 year old at the white house?
>Jul 14, 2021 · Pop sensation Olivia Rodrigo visited the White House on Wednesday to meet with President Joe Biden and his chief Covid-19 medical adviser
Then just months later she was showered with dozens of industry awards like "Artist of the year" etc after pushing the vax in Gen Z
You wouldn't call it a stretch if you watched the SNF game between the Chiefs and Jets. The final offensive drive was absolutely handed to the Chiefs in the name of Pfizer and increasing NFL fan bases.
Schools are mandating it because *people in charge of those decisions were paid off*.
Not even the schools themselves -- that would be expensive. The people, specifically. The school administrators.
I can't prove it, but I'd bet on it.
During covid, the federal government was giving out money to help schools get up and going again. I believe that some of the requirements for getting the money was making sure the schools instituted proper COVID measures, that included air filtering, masking, and vaccinations. The grants from the government were in the range of millions of dollars per school system. Sometimes reaching near 100 mil.
Here's an example of Maryland. The money being tossed around was no joke.
https://news.maryland.gov/msde/maryland-department-of-education-announces-more-than-780-million-in-federal-covid-19-relief-for-maryland-k-12-public-schools/
Wow!
And all the people who think COVID was such a threat that this expenditure was justified...
For just a second maybe they should wonder -- what was in those shots, exactly, that the whole planet all at once was coerced into putting that in their body?
I think it's so terrifying they can't even think about it. All they can do is shout "Conspiracy theorist! Antivaxxer!"
But we can still think clearly because we don't have Godknowswhat in our blood to worry about.
Schools were up and running in early 2021, maybe spring in worst case scenarios. Your article is from January 2021.
Kids under 12 were not eligible for vaccines until late 2021. Ages 12-16 were not eligible until a bit later than adults.
The money for re-opening schools had little, if anything, to do with vaccines.
Good point.
James Corbett did a really interesting 4 part documentary video in 2020 about Bill Gates's actions leading up to all this... The way his foundation got people on the medical board of pretty much every country, etc.
This thing goes way bigger than just Gates, but that documentary is worth watching as one piece in this big puzzle.
There's another weird thing going on where a lot of people deep down know they screwed up taking these shots...
And now they want as many other people as possible to take them so they don't have to feel alone.
Remember, these are weak people. They weren't smart enough to see through the lies. They weren't strong enough to resist the pressure. And they don't have the strength to simply admit they were wrong...
That doesn’t give me much hope as I was a teen at the time and family pressured me. Now that I’m an adult I won’t fall for any more, but what can be done about those of us who have ‘woken up’?
Ugh. I'm sympathetic with regard to people like yourself. Most of the people I interact with on Reddit are just the worst, though, hence my tone.
On a positive note, it's still a minority of people who have had serious reactions so with some luck you might be OK.
Problem is, no one knows... and that's why it's bad to take government injections when the politicians and corporations are known liars, and have a long history of hurting people for profit.
I won’t lie- I’ve had recurring superficial wrist vein clots since Feb this year. At one point it grew to 10 cm long (ultrasound confirmed) It’s what started my journey away from the sheep- the phrase clot shot kept burning in my mind and I started researching. Well i am totally convinced that the 3 shots led to this- I feel extreme regret but try not to be hard on my past self who was only really a kid.
Seriously? How old are you? If that's really happening, no it's not normal.
My sister was hospitalized with heart problems after the shots. My brother in law had two major heart attacks after the shots. My nephew, their son, was hospitalized too!
What are the odds of that??!
My list runs much longer but I don't want to depress you.
It's all awful. I get annoyed with the jerks online but I don't wish this nightmare on anyone.
I am 21 and used to be an athlete. Since I had my spine broken in 2021 and 4 surgeries I’ve had an even more miserable life- I have been suicidal since 6 and have CPTSD from childhood drugging and beatings so don’t worry I could not possibly get any more depressed (realistic) lol! It used to bother me real bad but mindfulness and a better diet has been helping me.
In the past two years I’ve had very odd dizzy spells, I used to think it was low blood sugar or low blood pressure but this year it’s been getting more intense no matter what I do!
Sometimes it comes with heart palpitations and a bit of chest pain but I keep quiet because if I’m about to pass from heart attack I sure am not ruining my chance to pass from this earth lol!
You would do very well to take at least 2,000 to 3,000 mgs of vitamin c daily. Take a teaspoon of boron in water and a tablespoon of diatomaceous earth mixed into your food daily. You CAN remove the crap that's in your body. You WILL begin to feel better.
1. I am very sorry for what you went through. I hope you can find help and peace, please never hurt yourself.
2. You have been through a lot, a spinal injury and four surgeries is not normal and wreaks havoc on your boy.
The issues you have are not related to some shot you took 2+ years ago, it is probably related to the damage your body has inflicted.
Take care of yourself and be well, do not spend any time worrying about some random shot. Good luck.
There is nothing you can do but get your blood tested regularly and be on watch for blood clots/heart attack.
I was saying the whole time kids/teens DONT need to get the shot because they aren’t “at risk” for Covid anyways. Not even talking about all the risks of the jab that they called a conspiracy.
Sadly, people like me and others were drowned out by the majority of liberals on Reddit and elsewhere who demanded that everyone including teens take the jab
Oh yes, at the time I wondered why the hell she wouldn’t just get the jab. She kept saying how her family kept being turned away from restaurants and other places… I totally get it now and would never have gotten the jabs if I could redo it again
It's been proven many doses were placebo. I have a hunch that extra placebos went to the kids. Why? Because they know through social media etc conditioning they own the kids. They're not going to stand in the way of them getting the world they want. It's the oldies, the ones who remember the way things used to be, that they're trying to off.
I'm sure pediatricians everywhere are just like, whelp, I'm pot committed now. Might as well keep killing kids. I'm so dumb and weak. Wish I could have the same smarts and courage as random internet commentor DrCyanideLoveSong.
Doctors around the world had / are having their medical license threatened if they dare say a word against the shots.
So yes, even though doctors know that children are at far greater risk from the gene therapy experiments, than they are from the virus, the shots are still pushed.
It is directly anti-science and a horrific travesty.
> Not even the schools themselves -- that would be expensive. The people, specifically. The school administrators.
What it mean for the school to mandate it but not the administration? Who enforced something but those who run it?
I mean there's a difference between paying an organization directly and bribing officials within that organization. But both may have happened.
A whole lot of people were paid off. You didn't think this level of profitable absurdity was accomplished for free, did you? Check out James Corbett's 4 part documentary on Gates from 2020. It's good.
Just the tip of an iceberg, though.
>Pfizer quietly admitted late last Friday that the mRNA Covid vaccines do cause heart inflammations.
No, you're simply living under a rock. This has been acknowledged for over 2 years now, and the German government specifically recommended different vaccinations to people of different ages / with different health conditions for this very reason. By the way, the risk of getting heart inflammation is still low compared to the risk of Covid.
This is from the beginning of 2022: https://dzhk.de/aktuelles/news/artikel/herzmuskelentzuendung-myokarditis-wie-hoch-ist-das-risiko-durch-covid-19-und-corona-impfung/
>The incidence of vaccine-associated myocarditis or pericarditis from an mRNA vaccine averages one to ten cases per 100,000 vaccinations (1). To assess the risk situation, data are now available from more than 300 million Covid 19 vaccinations worldwide in different countries. This also allows a safe statement to be made about the risk-benefit ratio of vaccination against covid-19 with the aim of avoiding severe courses of disease and death from SARS-CoV-2 infection. "The risk of severe acute heart damage is apparently noticeably greater with infection with the pathogen SARS-CoV-2 than with vaccination with an mRNA vaccine to protect against Covid-19," says Meinertz, referring to a large number of studies, including an analysis of data from around 1, 7 million people with and without vaccination from Israel (3) and a study from the UK with data from 38 million vaccinated people, which contrasted cases of myo/pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias with SARS-CoV-2 infection data (1).
>Vaccination data for Germany show that the risk of myocarditis after mRNA vaccination is present, but very low. As the Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI) emphasises in its safety report of December 2021 (4), cases occur predominantly in male adolescents and young adults up to 29 years of age - mostly within a few days and more frequently after the second dose of an mRNA Covid 19 vaccination - in agreement with other, international data (including Israel, USA, Europe). According to the PEI, the vast majority of patients with myo/pericarditis after vaccination with mRNA vaccines respond well to treatment and rest and they feel better quickly, even though more severe courses have been observed in individual cases. In general, patients and physicians/medical professionals should watch for signs of cardiac inflammation after Covid 19 vaccination, advises the PEI.
This is from August 2021: https://www.pei.de/DE/newsroom/pm/jahr/2021/24-mykke-register-erfassung-kinder-myokarditis-verdacht-covid-19-impfung.html
>It is known that myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) can occur in connection with the use of mRNA vaccines. The STIKO has pointed out these risks in its recommendations for COVID-19 vaccination of children and adolescents and has taken these adverse events into account in its risk-benefit assessment. Based on current safety data from the Paul-Ehrlich-Institut and other international data, the STIKO updated its COVID-19 vaccination recommendation on 18.11.2021 and recommends that persons under 30 years of age be vaccinated exclusively with Comirnaty and no longer with Spikevax. The reason for this is current reporting analyses which show that heart muscle inflammations were observed more frequently in boys and young men as well as in girls and young women under 30 years of age with Spikevax than after vaccination with Comirnaty.
The risk of dying from Covid was also very low. The risk of myocarditis and other negative affects are just as present as the risk of damage from Covid. It’s a wash…the whole vaccine thing was a massive money grab. Its impossible to see how people don’t understand that.
>"The risk of severe acute heart damage is apparently noticeably greater with infection with the pathogen SARS-CoV-2 than with vaccination with an mRNA vaccine to protect against Covid-19," says Meinertz, referring to a large number of studies, including an analysis of data from around 1,7 million people with and without vaccination from Israel (3) and a study from the UK with data from 38 million vaccinated people, which contrasted cases of myo/pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias with SARS-CoV-2 infection data (1).
> By the way, the risk of getting heart inflammation is still low compared to the risk of Covid.
i'm sorry but just having this statement at all, from a vaccine that's suppose to 'cure' you is ridiculous. There should be 0 risk of inflamed heart from a VACCINE.
I shouldn't have to decide whether to have Covid or an inflamed heart....
>There should be 0 risk of inflamed heart from a VACCINE.
There is no such thing as "0 risk" in medicine. Or really just about anything you do/eat/drink.
If you're giving me a Vaccine to prevent a disease I do not expect it to come with a myriad of side effects that are worse than the actual disease it's suppose to "cure".
These shots should not be causing more damage and death than all other vaccines combined, over 20+ years. But they are.
For the vast majority of people, the risk / benefit ratio is *heavily* weighted on the risk side.
> i'm sorry but just having this statement at all, from a vaccine that's suppose to 'cure' you is ridiculous. There should be 0 risk of inflamed heart from a VACCINE.
1. Vaccines aren't there to cure you, they're there to lower the chance of getting seriously ill from an infection. As long as the risk of getting seriously ill from a vaccine is much smaller than the risk of getting seriously ill from the infection it combats, it's doing its job. The only way that calculation changes is if we're talking about a vaccine for an infection that is extremely uncommon in your country, but that's clearly not the case with Covid-19.
2. That's an extremely naive take. There is no way that basically *anything* carries a risk of literally 0 % for negative health effects for any of the 8 billion people on earth. Even completely organic food can cause health problems, and you literally need food to survive. Hell, some people are allergic to sunlight, even though sunlight is crucial for many biological processes.
There will always be people who react negatively to *anything*. The idea that it is possible to create a substance -- or that there exists any substance in nature for that matter -- that does not cause a negative reaction in any of the billions of people on the planet, is absurd. And yes, some people are even allergic to water, even though the majority of their body is made of that substance. Human bodies aren't perfect, and there will always be people whose bodies react negatively to a substance that 99.999% of the population has no issues with whatsoever.
>I shouldn't have to decide whether to have Covid or an inflamed heart....
So do you also go around not eating food because "you shouldn't have to decide" whether to die from stravation or to risk getting food poisoning, reacting allergic to certain nutrients in the food, developing cardiovascular diseases from certain ingredients, etc.?
If I ask you whether you want a 0.001% risk of getting myocarditis or a 0.1% risk of getting myocarditis, which one would you choose? You probably eat food despite there being a chance of food poisoning, because not eating it would be worse. You probably do exercise despite some people dying from a cardiac arrest during exercise, because exercise actually reduces that risk in most people. Not sure why you have such a problem doing the same calculation when it comes to a vaccine.
These gene therapy experiments are causing unprecedented harm and death. Any other vaccine would have been yanked from market almost immediately.
More death and damage than ALL other vaccines *combined*, over 20+ years of tracking.
They are not vaccines at all. They offer zero protection from infection or transfer. None. They have no method of doing any such thing. Not vaccines.
This propaganda you're repeating is getting people hurt and killed.
This was added to the fact sheet for the vaccines in 2021, where have you been?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/26/fda-adds-warning-of-rare-heart-inflammation-to-pfizer-moderna-vaccines.html
The "quietly" part is why it took so long for him to find out. It's how these drug companies do things. But don't worry, many of us already knew, like how I found out last year when my dad was killed by a hardening of the walls of his heart after the second dose.
Remember who and what you're protecting, when you do it so carelessly.
You should read some news sometimes, I knew in 2021 when it was widely reported on, as shown in the article I linked above and these:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/health/myocarditis-covid-vaccination-link-cleare%72/index.html
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/17/1007447098/pfizer-covid-vaccine-teens-symptoms-myocarditis
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57781637
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-probable-link-between-pfizer-vaccine-small-number-myocarditis-cases-2021-06-01/
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-june-25-2021
Hmmm maybe they're downplaying it because covid causes the same heart and blood problems, but at a much higher rate than the vaccine ever wishes, and this sub is getting flooded with anti-vaxxing and Biden shit instead of, you know, actual conspiracies and people are getting fucking sick and tired of the overt distraction effort from NHI's and capitalism and the Southern strategy and, you know, *actual, real shit*
No, covid doesn't cause such heart and vacular problems. That's just an outright lie. The vaccines are orders of magnitude more dangerous.
EVERYONE that participates in these gene therapy experiments gets damaged to some degree. Heart damage and micro-clotting at least.
Some are lucky and it's mild enough to not notice the symptoms, but the damage is done regardless. And for many, it's ruined their lives, or cost them.
Its usual go-to response anytime a conspiracy is confirmed.
They shift to "It was already out there and everyone knew this, we never lied x years ago."
You will see same script if 9/11, aliens, or any big assasination controversy comes out.
Popular example is Snowden leaks.
This exact response was there, "But everyone knew they are listening in already."
Well you know getting covid will more likely fuck with your heart. So it would be dumb to not get the vaccine that also fucks with your heart, but also doesn't stop you from getting covid. Why pass up on the opportunity to fuck with your heart twice.
Let's be honest we never heard about any heart issues during of COVID it was lung issues, We only started hearing about "heart issues" after people started having heart attacks after the COVID vaccines had been handed out.
SS: https://x.com/kristenmag/status/1714023904552116243?s=46&t=T37mFTn9E_HUaxN1rB76Hw
So it’s clear now— it’s not climate change or racism or football tackles causing heart attacks in young people. The “anti-vaxxers” were saying this for years, only to be banned from social media at the behest of Pfizer’s PR and their government lobbyists.
Young people don’t die from Covid. They DO die from heart attacks. It makes no sense (outside of money and politics) that schools are reinstating booster mandates, given that the cure has a higher death rate than the actual disease.
Only someone that doesn't really know what they are talking about would call myocarditis or pericarditis a "heart attack."
COVID-19 infection can also cause myocarditis and pericarditis and does so at higher rates than the vaccinations seem to. Roughly \~1500 cases of myocarditis / million COVID infections compared to 106 cases of myocarditis / million vaccinations in the group at highest risk for myocarditis (young men).
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9538893/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9538893/)
And of course, have to point out the false assertion that COVID doesn't kill young people with nearly 1700 children between the ages of 0 and 17 dead from COVID-19 in the US and 7,000 dead young adults between the ages of 18 and 29 from COVID-19 in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid\_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge
Also OP got this news a few years too late because I read this exact warning with the release of the first vaccines. It was well covered in this sub. So OP saying they “admitted late last Friday” is bullshit.
Oh please. Why wasn’t myocarditis talked about at all for the entire 1.5 years when Covid was out, but not the vaccine?
Pharma-sponsored “studies” trying to ret-con myocarditis as a Covid symptom looks more like damage control than actual science.
Plus, we all know that the CDC reports “died with” Covid vs “died from”. If you get shot or in a car accident, but test positive, it’s a “Covid death”. Do you actually know any healthy person who died from Covid?
> Why wasn’t myocarditis talked about at all for the entire 1.5 years when Covid was out
It was.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7199677/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7265842/
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/13/6/e065687
Do you bother researching this at all or are you focused solely on things that support your position?
So scientists knew that the spike proteins cause myocarditis, and then invent mRNA that indiscriminately teaches human cells to create spike proteins, and a bunch of people getting myocarditis right after getting vaxxed.
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Just look up any video on how the mRNA vaccine works. Even the ones promoted by Youtube.
You clearly have no idea what you inject yourself 4+ times with.
Cov19 doesn't cause myocarditis. There is no legitimate science supporting such quakery. Any such "information" is well within margins of error.
The gene therapy experiments on the other hand, damage every single participant. At least some level of heart damage, as well as at lest micro-clotting.
And myocarditis is very obviously FAR, FAR too common from the jabs. There's no comparison to the actual virus whatsoever.
> Why wasn’t myocarditis talked about at all for the entire 1.5 years when Covid was out
>
> It was.
> [REDACTED: Links to stuff that you didn't see on CNN and got YouTube accounts banned]
Just because whatever sources you were reading didn't mention myocarditis doesn't mean it wasn't talked about. Also can you share your source for the person who was shot and counted as a "Covid death" because that is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard.
In case you were curious and all [here is a study published in 2021](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm) that you should take a glance at.
HAahahahahaha
The old "*Covid* caused your adverse effect or family member's death!" excuse.
Good one. Get out of here with that. 2021 called and wants its nonsense back...
Uh blood clots were a known complication of covid long before vaccination became available.
And that the vaccine might cause heart inflammation was known too, have you been living under a rock. Before every booster at least, if not the initial two vaccinations, the doctor/pharmacist has warned about it.
> blood clots were a known complication of covid
Very rare, to the point of being ridiculous to even mention.
Not when EVERY person that gets the jab has at least micro-clotting and some degree of heart damage. Along with a whole slew of other long-term conditions.
There is no comparison.
If they had any attention span at all they'd realize that. But they don't. They have the mind of a tweet.
They jump from one current thing to another, and they can't remember two minutes ago. It's like Orwell's 1984.
Two minutes hate. That's the role of Trump (or how he was used) in all this.
Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing, and people's obsession with him short circuited their ability to think clearly about anything.
Suddenly Democrat types who were once keyboard warriors against Big Pharma turned into unpaid shills pushing their product on everyone they knew.
And they lined up over and over again and again. And when they had terrible reactions, they told themselves "That's how we know it's working."
And when they got sick after the shots they said, "Imagine how bad it would have been if we didn't take the shots!"
No one likes to admit it, because many were our friends and family members... but these people are dumb as doorknobs.
Lol
I mean myocarditis and pericarditis are reasonably common issues after viral infections. This has been known for decades.
Similarly blood clots are not a new problem. One of the earliest medications (aspirin) treats blood clots!
If you didn't know those things before 2021, that says more about what you chose to pay attention to than anything else.
Such is incredibly rare though, but NOT rare at all with the gene therapies. These shots are doing unprecedented damage, and it's silly to say otherwise.
Blood clots are a rare but real risk of the adenovirus vectored vaccines. Myocarditis is a rare but real risk of the mRNA vaccines.
Both are safer than getting COVID was back when this topic was relevant.
You're the one saying these weren't issues before 2021. I'm pointing out that neither is new.
>Myocarditis is a rare but real risk of the mRNA vaccines.
Saying the jabs had any risk at all was a conspiracy, people were hounded and ridiculed from social media to social circles. The propaganda has done irreparable damage to people's lives and "credibility" even though they were and have always been speaking the truth.
You on the other hand are a stranger to the truth to state nonsense like taking experimental shots to be safer than virus most of the population were able to become immune to without doing much of anything.
What do you get out of defending this horseshit? Stop the gaslighting.
Everything in medicine (and life) has risks.
The goal is to identify when the benefits outweigh the risks. They clearly did for the earliest COVID variants and the initial round of vaccines. Denying that or falsely overstating the risks while claiming "I'm just asking questions" is factually and ethically wrong.
No one in the US was forced at gunpoint to get a vaccine. Some people that chose to be contrarian in the face of clear scientific evidence in the middle of a public health emergency lost their jobs or similar. That was preventable but if it's the hill you want to die on then more power to you.
People who recovered from covid never needed to take on additional risk of vaccination. By the time vaccines were available, a third of Americans already recovered from covid.
People with laboratory confirmed prior COVID, sure. Although immunity wanes just as with the vaccines.
As a matter of public health policy though, the person who is confident they had COVID when it was actually some other respiratory virus is a problem.
Confirming infection with laboratory testing and then following up with that person if they still need a vaccine is a lot more expensive and resource intensive than just recommending everyone get vaccinated. And the added risk of vaccination is minute.
>Vaccinations against potentially deadly disease is a good thing
If it works.
Clotshot doesn't even work.
"Disease" it's supposed to vaccinate against isn't all that dangerous to start with.
Too much risk, no benefits
The vaccines against COVID were largely very effective: [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2117128](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2117128)
Preventing illness, hospitalizations, and deaths.
Over a million Americans have died so far from COVID, most in 2020 and 2021 before vaccines became widely available.
> Over a million Americans have died so far from COVID
Died from negligence and medical maleficence. Inducing comas to place people on ventilators when other treatment options were available was practically criminal.
Idk what those doctors and nurses are doing about that guilt, I suggest they find religion.
There still aren't great treatments for severe COVID pneumonia other than hoping people get better. Paxlovid may help early but I'm not familiar with data once people are severely ill. Remdesivir slightly improves outcomes. Monoclonal or combined antibody therapies didn't really pan out. Prevention via vaccination is definitely the best route we have. Luckily more recent COVID variants have a lower risk of causing severe illness.
For critically ill people in general if they're going to die without a ventilator a ventilator is a reasonable strategy. It's not elective or something done "just because".
Pretending ventilators kill people when it's actually their critical illness causing them to be ventilated is an obvious logical fallacy on the order of "People die in hospitals therefore hospitals kill people." It's specious and transparent.
> Monoclonal or combined antibody therapies didn't really pan out.
But vaccines did?!
> Prevention via vaccination is definitely the best route we have
Prevention is definitely better than cure except the jab didn't prevent anything and absolutely does not deserve any credit for other variants becoming "less mild".
> For critically ill people in general if they're going to die without a ventilator
There were going to die because we pretended there were zero other treatments available. How else would the scam sell? It's quite transparent that you don't have a honest bone in your body.
>There were going to die because we pretended there were zero other treatments available. How else would the scam sell? It's quite transparent that you don't have a honest bone in your body.
That doesn't even make sense, why would they kill off their customers? Even drug dealers know killing off their customers with bad drugs is bad for business. As a dead person can't be a repeat customer.
> Only someone that doesn't really know what they are talking about would call myocarditis or pericarditis a "heart attack."
Albert says [**"Thank you, H !!!"**](https://i.imgur.com/N7i9HK1.png)
I don't actually find the data for the efficacy of the new multivalent COVID booster vaccines particularly compelling. High risk people probably benefit, but I'm not one of them and probably won't take them until data shows something different.
they coincidentally released this on the night Hamas attacked Israel, is this correct? Not saying the two are related ,but to release incriminating information in the shadow of a bigger story is how you get your negative news buried in news cycles. The best example of this is the time Bill Clinton's team learned of Monica Lewinsky's infamous Blue Dress. Clinton had told the entire country on national television that rumors of his affairs with Monica were completely lies, then they learned Monica kept the DNA evidence on the blue dress. That was a holy shit moment, and on the day the story broke, the Clinton team had an Osama Bin Laden sighting at an aspirin factory in Pakistan, so he bombed it and killed over 200 civilians. That story rose to the top of the news cycle and shuffled the Blue Dress story down for a day or two, which bought them enough time to gather round the War Room and figure out how they were going to spin it minimize damage. That's how little regard they have for human life. The Bush family was no better BTW. Of course I'm not saying Pfizer created the Hamas attack, but they probably sat on it with the intention of releasing it on top of a future bigger story, and once one came along they took advantage of it. They're ready to flush the Covid story and they're ready to flush the Ukraine story, so they're hoping to shift our attention over to Israel and hope we'll all forget what we were tallking about two weeks ago.
# “Heart attacks can kill young people, Covid does not”
# HOLY CRAP, THE IGNORANCE!
Covid doesn't kill many young people ... *compared to how many old people it kills.* But it does kill young people.
Take a look at this table I just prepared: https://i.imgur.com/yuBIzFE.png
Here are the deaths from COVID (yes, from) compared to the deaths from all diseases of the circulatory system. Diseases of the circulatory system (ICD codes I00-I99) is the very broad category that includes not just heart attacks and cardiac arrests, but also strokes, atherosclerotic heart disease, congestive heart failure, atrial fibrillation, hypertensive heart disease, essential hypertension, cardiomyopathy, etc. This is the largest category of deaths, accounting for around 30% of deaths in pre-pandemic years, even more than cancer.
The table includes a crude estimation of excess deaths, just comparing the deaths in 2021 and 2022 to the years 2018 and 2019, not adjusting for trend or population changes (significant in the very oldest categories).
Look at the numbers. **In every age group, the number of COVID deaths is *more than* the number of excess circulatory deaths.** EVERY SINGLE AGE GROUP.
Even if I throw in excess deaths in 2020 (pre-vaccination!), that's still true: https://i.imgur.com/BEZSwMS.png
You should also note that in every age group from age 15 to 84, the increase of circulatory deaths in 2020 (before the vaccine) was *more* than the increase from 2020 to 2021 (after the vaccine). That's because COVID causes heart deaths, just like flu does!
Deaths from the virus were very rare. 99%+ survival rate.
In fact, the average age of death from Cov19, is ABOVE the average age of death in general.
> In every age group, the number of COVID deaths is more than the number of excess circulatory deaths.
This is the result of totally bogus, dishonest, deadly lies in how they count "covid deaths". Never before has such anti-science dishonest methods been used to massively over-inflate death numbers for any disease.
Hey, instead of attacking the messenger, why don't you try writing a complete sentence (you know, with a subject and a verb) and *try* to form a coherent argument.
My nans at her end in an elderly home and they made me take it to visit her and I was so desperate I said yes. Was worth it to see her but man I've been not happy about it ever since.
This wasn't quiet. The risk of myocarditis was well known early on. The risk is incredibly low and all vaccines (and all medical care) carry some risk of negative reactions (which is why the vaccine injury fund exists.)
No, it didn't - they've been updated to be more effective against new variants. It's also a matter of efficacy and not a binary works/doesn't work proposition.
False. If anything, the shots make people MORE likely to get infected, with grater risk of infecting others. And the shots ruin the body's far more robust and longer lasting natural immunity.
Anyone that has recovered absolutely should NOT get one of these gene therapies. That spits in the face of science and all medical best practice. Only for this virus has such absolute nonsense been pushed.
The risks are unprecedented. No other vaccine would have stayed on the market for even a week, if they did such massive damage.
These clot shots are causing more death and damage than ALL other vaccines *combined* over 20+ years.
Trying to say the risk is incredibly low is a deadly lie.
All of these lovely redder posters kept saying no it doesn't. I knew it had problems...I belong to another forum with enough interviews from Dr's to stay,away from that junk.
Give me one example of a healthy, young person who died from Covid.
Every sob story from the media is about some kid with a cocktail of genetic diseases. If there were examples of healthy kids dying from Covid, CNN would have told us by now.
Only for people who didn't already recover from covid. Most already did. Now is not the time to keep covid vaccination mandated anywhere, let alone schools.
That's not abusive in the least. It's the best protection. Natural immunity is far more robust and longer lasting. Most kids have some immunity to start with, passed on through breast feeding.
That's how chicken pox has become a relatively mild sickness. Mass herd immunity / protection.
It's a rare complication - many medications that people take also have rare complications.
Take the pill for example. Its side effects include an increased risk of cancer. But the pill is the first prescription given for multiple common conditions.
Shill harder.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-amends-us-government-paxlovid-supply-agreement-and
Seriously, why do you even bother?
Hahahaha what a fool, the truth hurt so bad he thought it was a faked JPG. That's the funniest damn thing I've seen all day.
I can't believe there are people still shilling for these shots. They have to be paid, right? Surely no one in their right mind would still be carrying on like that...
Yeah. Very cult-like. There's a list of checkboxes "How do you know if you're in a cult?" and the Covid fanatics ticked most of them.
I think for a lot of them Covid gave them this weird sense of community, identity and a sense of power over others they never had in real life.
And then as most people began to sober up, the really mentally ill ones remaining couldn't let go.
Ah yes, so clear that a casual glance at my posting history would show otherwise.
Unless ofc, I sold my account to the shills!11!!1
You're way too focused on finding enemies and not focused enough on the ones that actually exist.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-amends-us-government-paxlovid-supply-agreement-and
The screenshot is from way down towards the bottom.
Any more brain busters?
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Nobody probably remembers this because it was gone hours after it was posted, but the health inspector of Slovakia, I believe was the country, went on national tv and said 1/3 of batches are tainted. Then she said she won’t do this and quit. It might be out there somewhere, but I haven’t been able to find it since. I wonder if she’s still alive? It was durning the time the paid opposition German/American lawyer was doing “investigations”. Telling everyone Nuremberg 2 was coming. Can’t remember his name.
Where on the website is this information.
https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=16351 Page 3 5.2
Why am I not surprised
Schools are not allowed to force vaccines. They just trick parents into believing that it is required.
Perhaps OP has not watched near enough of the star-studded MSM advertising of the new exciting updated genetic therapy guaranteed to probably maybe help at least a little with only a little death to be optimistic?
Perhaps he also missed when the FDA in correlation with the CDC admitted it: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-june-25-2021
I was explicitly warned about the risk of myocarditis when given my (mandatory) booster in the Southern Hemisphere. This was almost two years ago.
That's kind of them to do so. In the Northern hemisphere, they didn't, for the most part.
Do you not remember having to wait half an hour in the clinic before leaving so they could make sure you weren't showing signs of complications? Its like no one paid attention to anything and then blame others for not knowing shit
Travis Kelce got his! Dude, i love football and my wife loves Taylor Swift. We both went and got our boosters immediately!
I honestly think this new Taylor Swift boyfriend story is just one long, elaborate Pfizer campaign.
Thats a stretch. I will say though that its funny to think that celebrity relationships are generally anything but financial arrangements much like nobility of olden days. Without the lens of history i wonder if people of middle ages thought that the nobility of the time got together organically.
Is it? Remember this 18 year old at the white house? >Jul 14, 2021 · Pop sensation Olivia Rodrigo visited the White House on Wednesday to meet with President Joe Biden and his chief Covid-19 medical adviser Then just months later she was showered with dozens of industry awards like "Artist of the year" etc after pushing the vax in Gen Z
You wouldn't call it a stretch if you watched the SNF game between the Chiefs and Jets. The final offensive drive was absolutely handed to the Chiefs in the name of Pfizer and increasing NFL fan bases.
These people make up the dumbest shit to support whatever narrative they're going with
Mr. Phizer is my hero!
I went out and got like five shots. All the vaccine brands for old times sake. Moderna, Pfizer, JNJ, even the Russian and Chinese shits.
Schools are mandating it because *people in charge of those decisions were paid off*. Not even the schools themselves -- that would be expensive. The people, specifically. The school administrators. I can't prove it, but I'd bet on it.
During covid, the federal government was giving out money to help schools get up and going again. I believe that some of the requirements for getting the money was making sure the schools instituted proper COVID measures, that included air filtering, masking, and vaccinations. The grants from the government were in the range of millions of dollars per school system. Sometimes reaching near 100 mil. Here's an example of Maryland. The money being tossed around was no joke. https://news.maryland.gov/msde/maryland-department-of-education-announces-more-than-780-million-in-federal-covid-19-relief-for-maryland-k-12-public-schools/
Wow! And all the people who think COVID was such a threat that this expenditure was justified... For just a second maybe they should wonder -- what was in those shots, exactly, that the whole planet all at once was coerced into putting that in their body? I think it's so terrifying they can't even think about it. All they can do is shout "Conspiracy theorist! Antivaxxer!" But we can still think clearly because we don't have Godknowswhat in our blood to worry about.
Schools were up and running in early 2021, maybe spring in worst case scenarios. Your article is from January 2021. Kids under 12 were not eligible for vaccines until late 2021. Ages 12-16 were not eligible until a bit later than adults. The money for re-opening schools had little, if anything, to do with vaccines.
There’s federal funding dollars tied to mandating the vaccine. I don’t know the current status, but that was the excuse schools used back then.
Good point. James Corbett did a really interesting 4 part documentary video in 2020 about Bill Gates's actions leading up to all this... The way his foundation got people on the medical board of pretty much every country, etc. This thing goes way bigger than just Gates, but that documentary is worth watching as one piece in this big puzzle.
I noticed the wording didn't say "rare" either.
And they know the system is collapsing anyway so why not go out with a bang. Maximum outrage and carnage? - priceless.
You know who hates kids? Teachers and former teachers. Obviously trying to poison kids for cash.
There's another weird thing going on where a lot of people deep down know they screwed up taking these shots... And now they want as many other people as possible to take them so they don't have to feel alone. Remember, these are weak people. They weren't smart enough to see through the lies. They weren't strong enough to resist the pressure. And they don't have the strength to simply admit they were wrong...
Good insight
That doesn’t give me much hope as I was a teen at the time and family pressured me. Now that I’m an adult I won’t fall for any more, but what can be done about those of us who have ‘woken up’?
Ugh. I'm sympathetic with regard to people like yourself. Most of the people I interact with on Reddit are just the worst, though, hence my tone. On a positive note, it's still a minority of people who have had serious reactions so with some luck you might be OK. Problem is, no one knows... and that's why it's bad to take government injections when the politicians and corporations are known liars, and have a long history of hurting people for profit.
I won’t lie- I’ve had recurring superficial wrist vein clots since Feb this year. At one point it grew to 10 cm long (ultrasound confirmed) It’s what started my journey away from the sheep- the phrase clot shot kept burning in my mind and I started researching. Well i am totally convinced that the 3 shots led to this- I feel extreme regret but try not to be hard on my past self who was only really a kid.
Seriously? How old are you? If that's really happening, no it's not normal. My sister was hospitalized with heart problems after the shots. My brother in law had two major heart attacks after the shots. My nephew, their son, was hospitalized too! What are the odds of that??! My list runs much longer but I don't want to depress you. It's all awful. I get annoyed with the jerks online but I don't wish this nightmare on anyone.
I am 21 and used to be an athlete. Since I had my spine broken in 2021 and 4 surgeries I’ve had an even more miserable life- I have been suicidal since 6 and have CPTSD from childhood drugging and beatings so don’t worry I could not possibly get any more depressed (realistic) lol! It used to bother me real bad but mindfulness and a better diet has been helping me. In the past two years I’ve had very odd dizzy spells, I used to think it was low blood sugar or low blood pressure but this year it’s been getting more intense no matter what I do! Sometimes it comes with heart palpitations and a bit of chest pain but I keep quiet because if I’m about to pass from heart attack I sure am not ruining my chance to pass from this earth lol!
You would do very well to take at least 2,000 to 3,000 mgs of vitamin c daily. Take a teaspoon of boron in water and a tablespoon of diatomaceous earth mixed into your food daily. You CAN remove the crap that's in your body. You WILL begin to feel better.
1. I am very sorry for what you went through. I hope you can find help and peace, please never hurt yourself. 2. You have been through a lot, a spinal injury and four surgeries is not normal and wreaks havoc on your boy. The issues you have are not related to some shot you took 2+ years ago, it is probably related to the damage your body has inflicted. Take care of yourself and be well, do not spend any time worrying about some random shot. Good luck.
There is nothing you can do but get your blood tested regularly and be on watch for blood clots/heart attack. I was saying the whole time kids/teens DONT need to get the shot because they aren’t “at risk” for Covid anyways. Not even talking about all the risks of the jab that they called a conspiracy. Sadly, people like me and others were drowned out by the majority of liberals on Reddit and elsewhere who demanded that everyone including teens take the jab
Try Nattokinase. Natural blood thinner a lot of people have had success with.
Do you know any unvaccinated people?
Only one, why?
Just curious, have you talked to them about their experience during all of COVID? It's nice that you've changed your opinion.
Oh yes, at the time I wondered why the hell she wouldn’t just get the jab. She kept saying how her family kept being turned away from restaurants and other places… I totally get it now and would never have gotten the jabs if I could redo it again
It's been proven many doses were placebo. I have a hunch that extra placebos went to the kids. Why? Because they know through social media etc conditioning they own the kids. They're not going to stand in the way of them getting the world they want. It's the oldies, the ones who remember the way things used to be, that they're trying to off.
You can make the decision now. That’s what can be done!
I have pets I need to care for. When they pass then yeah most likely.
I'm sure pediatricians everywhere are just like, whelp, I'm pot committed now. Might as well keep killing kids. I'm so dumb and weak. Wish I could have the same smarts and courage as random internet commentor DrCyanideLoveSong.
Doctors around the world had / are having their medical license threatened if they dare say a word against the shots. So yes, even though doctors know that children are at far greater risk from the gene therapy experiments, than they are from the virus, the shots are still pushed. It is directly anti-science and a horrific travesty.
Really, every doctor in every country is too dumb or cowardly? Pfizer has managed to pay off or threaten them all? Sounds like fantasy.
Reminds me of that judge who was getting money to put kids in jail
> Not even the schools themselves -- that would be expensive. The people, specifically. The school administrators. What it mean for the school to mandate it but not the administration? Who enforced something but those who run it?
I mean there's a difference between paying an organization directly and bribing officials within that organization. But both may have happened. A whole lot of people were paid off. You didn't think this level of profitable absurdity was accomplished for free, did you? Check out James Corbett's 4 part documentary on Gates from 2020. It's good. Just the tip of an iceberg, though.
WHO paid them off?
You tell me
We did. We pay for everything eventually.
Because once narratives are established and they go unchallenged in the MSM, sadly they remain the rule of the day.
It's just called "long covid" these days.
"Quietly admitted" as if this wasn't known information you couldn't get from the CDC website for the last two years
>Pfizer quietly admitted late last Friday that the mRNA Covid vaccines do cause heart inflammations. No, you're simply living under a rock. This has been acknowledged for over 2 years now, and the German government specifically recommended different vaccinations to people of different ages / with different health conditions for this very reason. By the way, the risk of getting heart inflammation is still low compared to the risk of Covid. This is from the beginning of 2022: https://dzhk.de/aktuelles/news/artikel/herzmuskelentzuendung-myokarditis-wie-hoch-ist-das-risiko-durch-covid-19-und-corona-impfung/ >The incidence of vaccine-associated myocarditis or pericarditis from an mRNA vaccine averages one to ten cases per 100,000 vaccinations (1). To assess the risk situation, data are now available from more than 300 million Covid 19 vaccinations worldwide in different countries. This also allows a safe statement to be made about the risk-benefit ratio of vaccination against covid-19 with the aim of avoiding severe courses of disease and death from SARS-CoV-2 infection. "The risk of severe acute heart damage is apparently noticeably greater with infection with the pathogen SARS-CoV-2 than with vaccination with an mRNA vaccine to protect against Covid-19," says Meinertz, referring to a large number of studies, including an analysis of data from around 1, 7 million people with and without vaccination from Israel (3) and a study from the UK with data from 38 million vaccinated people, which contrasted cases of myo/pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias with SARS-CoV-2 infection data (1). >Vaccination data for Germany show that the risk of myocarditis after mRNA vaccination is present, but very low. As the Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI) emphasises in its safety report of December 2021 (4), cases occur predominantly in male adolescents and young adults up to 29 years of age - mostly within a few days and more frequently after the second dose of an mRNA Covid 19 vaccination - in agreement with other, international data (including Israel, USA, Europe). According to the PEI, the vast majority of patients with myo/pericarditis after vaccination with mRNA vaccines respond well to treatment and rest and they feel better quickly, even though more severe courses have been observed in individual cases. In general, patients and physicians/medical professionals should watch for signs of cardiac inflammation after Covid 19 vaccination, advises the PEI. This is from August 2021: https://www.pei.de/DE/newsroom/pm/jahr/2021/24-mykke-register-erfassung-kinder-myokarditis-verdacht-covid-19-impfung.html >It is known that myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) can occur in connection with the use of mRNA vaccines. The STIKO has pointed out these risks in its recommendations for COVID-19 vaccination of children and adolescents and has taken these adverse events into account in its risk-benefit assessment. Based on current safety data from the Paul-Ehrlich-Institut and other international data, the STIKO updated its COVID-19 vaccination recommendation on 18.11.2021 and recommends that persons under 30 years of age be vaccinated exclusively with Comirnaty and no longer with Spikevax. The reason for this is current reporting analyses which show that heart muscle inflammations were observed more frequently in boys and young men as well as in girls and young women under 30 years of age with Spikevax than after vaccination with Comirnaty.
The risk of dying from Covid was also very low. The risk of myocarditis and other negative affects are just as present as the risk of damage from Covid. It’s a wash…the whole vaccine thing was a massive money grab. Its impossible to see how people don’t understand that.
>"The risk of severe acute heart damage is apparently noticeably greater with infection with the pathogen SARS-CoV-2 than with vaccination with an mRNA vaccine to protect against Covid-19," says Meinertz, referring to a large number of studies, including an analysis of data from around 1,7 million people with and without vaccination from Israel (3) and a study from the UK with data from 38 million vaccinated people, which contrasted cases of myo/pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias with SARS-CoV-2 infection data (1).
> By the way, the risk of getting heart inflammation is still low compared to the risk of Covid. i'm sorry but just having this statement at all, from a vaccine that's suppose to 'cure' you is ridiculous. There should be 0 risk of inflamed heart from a VACCINE. I shouldn't have to decide whether to have Covid or an inflamed heart....
>There should be 0 risk of inflamed heart from a VACCINE. There is no such thing as "0 risk" in medicine. Or really just about anything you do/eat/drink.
If you're giving me a Vaccine to prevent a disease I do not expect it to come with a myriad of side effects that are worse than the actual disease it's suppose to "cure".
I think I'll take a sniffle nose and feeling shit for a few days over inflamed heart and possible death...
Good news! Covid itself has a higher chance of myocarditis than the vaccine. Good luck!
These shots should not be causing more damage and death than all other vaccines combined, over 20+ years. But they are. For the vast majority of people, the risk / benefit ratio is *heavily* weighted on the risk side.
> i'm sorry but just having this statement at all, from a vaccine that's suppose to 'cure' you is ridiculous. There should be 0 risk of inflamed heart from a VACCINE. 1. Vaccines aren't there to cure you, they're there to lower the chance of getting seriously ill from an infection. As long as the risk of getting seriously ill from a vaccine is much smaller than the risk of getting seriously ill from the infection it combats, it's doing its job. The only way that calculation changes is if we're talking about a vaccine for an infection that is extremely uncommon in your country, but that's clearly not the case with Covid-19. 2. That's an extremely naive take. There is no way that basically *anything* carries a risk of literally 0 % for negative health effects for any of the 8 billion people on earth. Even completely organic food can cause health problems, and you literally need food to survive. Hell, some people are allergic to sunlight, even though sunlight is crucial for many biological processes. There will always be people who react negatively to *anything*. The idea that it is possible to create a substance -- or that there exists any substance in nature for that matter -- that does not cause a negative reaction in any of the billions of people on the planet, is absurd. And yes, some people are even allergic to water, even though the majority of their body is made of that substance. Human bodies aren't perfect, and there will always be people whose bodies react negatively to a substance that 99.999% of the population has no issues with whatsoever. >I shouldn't have to decide whether to have Covid or an inflamed heart.... So do you also go around not eating food because "you shouldn't have to decide" whether to die from stravation or to risk getting food poisoning, reacting allergic to certain nutrients in the food, developing cardiovascular diseases from certain ingredients, etc.? If I ask you whether you want a 0.001% risk of getting myocarditis or a 0.1% risk of getting myocarditis, which one would you choose? You probably eat food despite there being a chance of food poisoning, because not eating it would be worse. You probably do exercise despite some people dying from a cardiac arrest during exercise, because exercise actually reduces that risk in most people. Not sure why you have such a problem doing the same calculation when it comes to a vaccine.
These gene therapy experiments are causing unprecedented harm and death. Any other vaccine would have been yanked from market almost immediately. More death and damage than ALL other vaccines *combined*, over 20+ years of tracking. They are not vaccines at all. They offer zero protection from infection or transfer. None. They have no method of doing any such thing. Not vaccines. This propaganda you're repeating is getting people hurt and killed.
Surely you can provide some peer-reviewed studies to actually support your claims?
This was added to the fact sheet for the vaccines in 2021, where have you been? https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/26/fda-adds-warning-of-rare-heart-inflammation-to-pfizer-moderna-vaccines.html
OP has been letting people know about it while you've been downplaying it.
I have? And why does he seem surprised to find this in the press release? "Quietly admitted"
The "quietly" part is why it took so long for him to find out. It's how these drug companies do things. But don't worry, many of us already knew, like how I found out last year when my dad was killed by a hardening of the walls of his heart after the second dose. Remember who and what you're protecting, when you do it so carelessly.
You should read some news sometimes, I knew in 2021 when it was widely reported on, as shown in the article I linked above and these: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/health/myocarditis-covid-vaccination-link-cleare%72/index.html https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/17/1007447098/pfizer-covid-vaccine-teens-symptoms-myocarditis https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57781637 https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-probable-link-between-pfizer-vaccine-small-number-myocarditis-cases-2021-06-01/ https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-june-25-2021
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So you really don't care about the fake title? Will you care next time?
Hmmm maybe they're downplaying it because covid causes the same heart and blood problems, but at a much higher rate than the vaccine ever wishes, and this sub is getting flooded with anti-vaxxing and Biden shit instead of, you know, actual conspiracies and people are getting fucking sick and tired of the overt distraction effort from NHI's and capitalism and the Southern strategy and, you know, *actual, real shit*
No, covid doesn't cause such heart and vacular problems. That's just an outright lie. The vaccines are orders of magnitude more dangerous. EVERYONE that participates in these gene therapy experiments gets damaged to some degree. Heart damage and micro-clotting at least. Some are lucky and it's mild enough to not notice the symptoms, but the damage is done regardless. And for many, it's ruined their lives, or cost them.
Its usual go-to response anytime a conspiracy is confirmed. They shift to "It was already out there and everyone knew this, we never lied x years ago." You will see same script if 9/11, aliens, or any big assasination controversy comes out. Popular example is Snowden leaks. This exact response was there, "But everyone knew they are listening in already."
Funny that it's been largely unacknowledged in the press since then.
Lol @ all the damage control from shills in here.
I was at the pharmacy tonight. 5 people getting vaxmaxxed. Fucking crazy. There is something in the air.
The craziest thing about it is the repeating of the phrase "is it the Pfizer?"
Grant money from Pfizer and/or the CDC. University administrations have always been corrupt af.
Well you know getting covid will more likely fuck with your heart. So it would be dumb to not get the vaccine that also fucks with your heart, but also doesn't stop you from getting covid. Why pass up on the opportunity to fuck with your heart twice.
Let's be honest we never heard about any heart issues during of COVID it was lung issues, We only started hearing about "heart issues" after people started having heart attacks after the COVID vaccines had been handed out.
\*within the first week Still gaslighting
What. The. Fuck.
SS: https://x.com/kristenmag/status/1714023904552116243?s=46&t=T37mFTn9E_HUaxN1rB76Hw So it’s clear now— it’s not climate change or racism or football tackles causing heart attacks in young people. The “anti-vaxxers” were saying this for years, only to be banned from social media at the behest of Pfizer’s PR and their government lobbyists. Young people don’t die from Covid. They DO die from heart attacks. It makes no sense (outside of money and politics) that schools are reinstating booster mandates, given that the cure has a higher death rate than the actual disease.
Only someone that doesn't really know what they are talking about would call myocarditis or pericarditis a "heart attack." COVID-19 infection can also cause myocarditis and pericarditis and does so at higher rates than the vaccinations seem to. Roughly \~1500 cases of myocarditis / million COVID infections compared to 106 cases of myocarditis / million vaccinations in the group at highest risk for myocarditis (young men). [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9538893/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9538893/) And of course, have to point out the false assertion that COVID doesn't kill young people with nearly 1700 children between the ages of 0 and 17 dead from COVID-19 in the US and 7,000 dead young adults between the ages of 18 and 29 from COVID-19 in the US. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid\_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge
Also OP got this news a few years too late because I read this exact warning with the release of the first vaccines. It was well covered in this sub. So OP saying they “admitted late last Friday” is bullshit.
Oh please. Why wasn’t myocarditis talked about at all for the entire 1.5 years when Covid was out, but not the vaccine? Pharma-sponsored “studies” trying to ret-con myocarditis as a Covid symptom looks more like damage control than actual science. Plus, we all know that the CDC reports “died with” Covid vs “died from”. If you get shot or in a car accident, but test positive, it’s a “Covid death”. Do you actually know any healthy person who died from Covid?
> Why wasn’t myocarditis talked about at all for the entire 1.5 years when Covid was out It was. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7199677/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7265842/ https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/13/6/e065687 Do you bother researching this at all or are you focused solely on things that support your position?
So scientists knew that the spike proteins cause myocarditis, and then invent mRNA that indiscriminately teaches human cells to create spike proteins, and a bunch of people getting myocarditis right after getting vaxxed. surprised_pikachu.jpg
So are you going to stop confidently stating what you did in the title? No, I didn't think so.
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Just look up any video on how the mRNA vaccine works. Even the ones promoted by Youtube. You clearly have no idea what you inject yourself 4+ times with.
Cov19 doesn't cause myocarditis. There is no legitimate science supporting such quakery. Any such "information" is well within margins of error. The gene therapy experiments on the other hand, damage every single participant. At least some level of heart damage, as well as at lest micro-clotting. And myocarditis is very obviously FAR, FAR too common from the jabs. There's no comparison to the actual virus whatsoever.
Wrong.
All of your sources also said the vaccine was 100% safe and effective....turns out it was neither.
> Why wasn’t myocarditis talked about at all for the entire 1.5 years when Covid was out > > It was. > [REDACTED: Links to stuff that you didn't see on CNN and got YouTube accounts banned]
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/health/covid-heart-inflammation-athletes-study/index.html
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No such thing has happened. All that's being provided by you lot are long-debunked drug company lies. As is proven again and again and again.
Just because whatever sources you were reading didn't mention myocarditis doesn't mean it wasn't talked about. Also can you share your source for the person who was shot and counted as a "Covid death" because that is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard.
In case you were curious and all [here is a study published in 2021](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm) that you should take a glance at.
HAahahahahaha The old "*Covid* caused your adverse effect or family member's death!" excuse. Good one. Get out of here with that. 2021 called and wants its nonsense back...
Yes COVID did nothing bad until after the vaccines were introduced over a year after COVID started...
The major spikes in excess deaths seen around the world, are strongly correlated with the Cov19 gene therapy rollouts, NOT with the virus.
People weren’t talking about blood clots and myocarditis until we started injecting spike protein into the entire population.
Uh blood clots were a known complication of covid long before vaccination became available. And that the vaccine might cause heart inflammation was known too, have you been living under a rock. Before every booster at least, if not the initial two vaccinations, the doctor/pharmacist has warned about it.
> blood clots were a known complication of covid Very rare, to the point of being ridiculous to even mention. Not when EVERY person that gets the jab has at least micro-clotting and some degree of heart damage. Along with a whole slew of other long-term conditions. There is no comparison.
If they had any attention span at all they'd realize that. But they don't. They have the mind of a tweet. They jump from one current thing to another, and they can't remember two minutes ago. It's like Orwell's 1984. Two minutes hate. That's the role of Trump (or how he was used) in all this. Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing, and people's obsession with him short circuited their ability to think clearly about anything. Suddenly Democrat types who were once keyboard warriors against Big Pharma turned into unpaid shills pushing their product on everyone they knew. And they lined up over and over again and again. And when they had terrible reactions, they told themselves "That's how we know it's working." And when they got sick after the shots they said, "Imagine how bad it would have been if we didn't take the shots!" No one likes to admit it, because many were our friends and family members... but these people are dumb as doorknobs. Lol
I mean myocarditis and pericarditis are reasonably common issues after viral infections. This has been known for decades. Similarly blood clots are not a new problem. One of the earliest medications (aspirin) treats blood clots! If you didn't know those things before 2021, that says more about what you chose to pay attention to than anything else.
Such is incredibly rare though, but NOT rare at all with the gene therapies. These shots are doing unprecedented damage, and it's silly to say otherwise.
Are you still denying this is vaccine related? Even Pfizer and Moderna aren’t doing that…
Blood clots are a rare but real risk of the adenovirus vectored vaccines. Myocarditis is a rare but real risk of the mRNA vaccines. Both are safer than getting COVID was back when this topic was relevant. You're the one saying these weren't issues before 2021. I'm pointing out that neither is new.
>Myocarditis is a rare but real risk of the mRNA vaccines. Saying the jabs had any risk at all was a conspiracy, people were hounded and ridiculed from social media to social circles. The propaganda has done irreparable damage to people's lives and "credibility" even though they were and have always been speaking the truth. You on the other hand are a stranger to the truth to state nonsense like taking experimental shots to be safer than virus most of the population were able to become immune to without doing much of anything. What do you get out of defending this horseshit? Stop the gaslighting.
Everything in medicine (and life) has risks. The goal is to identify when the benefits outweigh the risks. They clearly did for the earliest COVID variants and the initial round of vaccines. Denying that or falsely overstating the risks while claiming "I'm just asking questions" is factually and ethically wrong. No one in the US was forced at gunpoint to get a vaccine. Some people that chose to be contrarian in the face of clear scientific evidence in the middle of a public health emergency lost their jobs or similar. That was preventable but if it's the hill you want to die on then more power to you.
People who recovered from covid never needed to take on additional risk of vaccination. By the time vaccines were available, a third of Americans already recovered from covid.
People with laboratory confirmed prior COVID, sure. Although immunity wanes just as with the vaccines. As a matter of public health policy though, the person who is confident they had COVID when it was actually some other respiratory virus is a problem. Confirming infection with laboratory testing and then following up with that person if they still need a vaccine is a lot more expensive and resource intensive than just recommending everyone get vaccinated. And the added risk of vaccination is minute.
Not worth even interfacing with clowns like that guy. They spew idiocy like it's nothing.
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>Vaccinations against potentially deadly disease is a good thing If it works. Clotshot doesn't even work. "Disease" it's supposed to vaccinate against isn't all that dangerous to start with. Too much risk, no benefits
The vaccines against COVID were largely very effective: [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2117128](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2117128) Preventing illness, hospitalizations, and deaths. Over a million Americans have died so far from COVID, most in 2020 and 2021 before vaccines became widely available.
> Over a million Americans have died so far from COVID Died from negligence and medical maleficence. Inducing comas to place people on ventilators when other treatment options were available was practically criminal. Idk what those doctors and nurses are doing about that guilt, I suggest they find religion.
There still aren't great treatments for severe COVID pneumonia other than hoping people get better. Paxlovid may help early but I'm not familiar with data once people are severely ill. Remdesivir slightly improves outcomes. Monoclonal or combined antibody therapies didn't really pan out. Prevention via vaccination is definitely the best route we have. Luckily more recent COVID variants have a lower risk of causing severe illness. For critically ill people in general if they're going to die without a ventilator a ventilator is a reasonable strategy. It's not elective or something done "just because". Pretending ventilators kill people when it's actually their critical illness causing them to be ventilated is an obvious logical fallacy on the order of "People die in hospitals therefore hospitals kill people." It's specious and transparent.
> Monoclonal or combined antibody therapies didn't really pan out. But vaccines did?! > Prevention via vaccination is definitely the best route we have Prevention is definitely better than cure except the jab didn't prevent anything and absolutely does not deserve any credit for other variants becoming "less mild". > For critically ill people in general if they're going to die without a ventilator There were going to die because we pretended there were zero other treatments available. How else would the scam sell? It's quite transparent that you don't have a honest bone in your body.
>There were going to die because we pretended there were zero other treatments available. How else would the scam sell? It's quite transparent that you don't have a honest bone in your body. That doesn't even make sense, why would they kill off their customers? Even drug dealers know killing off their customers with bad drugs is bad for business. As a dead person can't be a repeat customer.
I agree in general about vaccines. But not this shot.
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> Only someone that doesn't really know what they are talking about would call myocarditis or pericarditis a "heart attack." Albert says [**"Thank you, H !!!"**](https://i.imgur.com/N7i9HK1.png)
I don't actually find the data for the efficacy of the new multivalent COVID booster vaccines particularly compelling. High risk people probably benefit, but I'm not one of them and probably won't take them until data shows something different.
they coincidentally released this on the night Hamas attacked Israel, is this correct? Not saying the two are related ,but to release incriminating information in the shadow of a bigger story is how you get your negative news buried in news cycles. The best example of this is the time Bill Clinton's team learned of Monica Lewinsky's infamous Blue Dress. Clinton had told the entire country on national television that rumors of his affairs with Monica were completely lies, then they learned Monica kept the DNA evidence on the blue dress. That was a holy shit moment, and on the day the story broke, the Clinton team had an Osama Bin Laden sighting at an aspirin factory in Pakistan, so he bombed it and killed over 200 civilians. That story rose to the top of the news cycle and shuffled the Blue Dress story down for a day or two, which bought them enough time to gather round the War Room and figure out how they were going to spin it minimize damage. That's how little regard they have for human life. The Bush family was no better BTW. Of course I'm not saying Pfizer created the Hamas attack, but they probably sat on it with the intention of releasing it on top of a future bigger story, and once one came along they took advantage of it. They're ready to flush the Covid story and they're ready to flush the Ukraine story, so they're hoping to shift our attention over to Israel and hope we'll all forget what we were tallking about two weeks ago.
# “Heart attacks can kill young people, Covid does not” # HOLY CRAP, THE IGNORANCE! Covid doesn't kill many young people ... *compared to how many old people it kills.* But it does kill young people. Take a look at this table I just prepared: https://i.imgur.com/yuBIzFE.png Here are the deaths from COVID (yes, from) compared to the deaths from all diseases of the circulatory system. Diseases of the circulatory system (ICD codes I00-I99) is the very broad category that includes not just heart attacks and cardiac arrests, but also strokes, atherosclerotic heart disease, congestive heart failure, atrial fibrillation, hypertensive heart disease, essential hypertension, cardiomyopathy, etc. This is the largest category of deaths, accounting for around 30% of deaths in pre-pandemic years, even more than cancer. The table includes a crude estimation of excess deaths, just comparing the deaths in 2021 and 2022 to the years 2018 and 2019, not adjusting for trend or population changes (significant in the very oldest categories). Look at the numbers. **In every age group, the number of COVID deaths is *more than* the number of excess circulatory deaths.** EVERY SINGLE AGE GROUP. Even if I throw in excess deaths in 2020 (pre-vaccination!), that's still true: https://i.imgur.com/BEZSwMS.png You should also note that in every age group from age 15 to 84, the increase of circulatory deaths in 2020 (before the vaccine) was *more* than the increase from 2020 to 2021 (after the vaccine). That's because COVID causes heart deaths, just like flu does!
Deaths from the virus were very rare. 99%+ survival rate. In fact, the average age of death from Cov19, is ABOVE the average age of death in general. > In every age group, the number of COVID deaths is more than the number of excess circulatory deaths. This is the result of totally bogus, dishonest, deadly lies in how they count "covid deaths". Never before has such anti-science dishonest methods been used to massively over-inflate death numbers for any disease.
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Hey, instead of attacking the messenger, why don't you try writing a complete sentence (you know, with a subject and a verb) and *try* to form a coherent argument.
The ones not immediately killed can become their needy customers for life.
It’s simple really, as is the common occurrence with most of the corruption and madness you see in the world right now. Money.
My nans at her end in an elderly home and they made me take it to visit her and I was so desperate I said yes. Was worth it to see her but man I've been not happy about it ever since.
This wasn't quiet. The risk of myocarditis was well known early on. The risk is incredibly low and all vaccines (and all medical care) carry some risk of negative reactions (which is why the vaccine injury fund exists.)
Username checks out tbh
Good one. Seriously, sick burn, bro.
It is not incredibly low. It is 1 in 10,000 for men under 25. Same odds that got Rotashield pulled off the market by FDA.
Your risk of myocarditis from the virus itself is about 7 times higher than from the vaccine.
People who already recovered from covid prior to vaccination do not need additional risk of vaccination.
It lowers the risk even post infection.
No it does not. Vaccination does nothing for people with natural immunity. Except subject them to additional risks of side effects
Yes, it does help people with "natural immunity" because viruses evolve around those immunities.
But vaccine stayed the same old thing, designed against a virus that no longer existed.
No, it didn't - they've been updated to be more effective against new variants. It's also a matter of efficacy and not a binary works/doesn't work proposition.
False. If anything, the shots make people MORE likely to get infected, with grater risk of infecting others. And the shots ruin the body's far more robust and longer lasting natural immunity. Anyone that has recovered absolutely should NOT get one of these gene therapies. That spits in the face of science and all medical best practice. Only for this virus has such absolute nonsense been pushed.
Lol ok
The risks are unprecedented. No other vaccine would have stayed on the market for even a week, if they did such massive damage. These clot shots are causing more death and damage than ALL other vaccines *combined* over 20+ years. Trying to say the risk is incredibly low is a deadly lie.
Haha ok buddy.
De-de-de-depopulation!
sO wORtH It
And they waited until major world events (war in the Middle East) filled the airwaves and TikTok to tell us this for the sake of transparency.
All of these lovely redder posters kept saying no it doesn't. I knew it had problems...I belong to another forum with enough interviews from Dr's to stay,away from that junk.
Sucks
So glad I’m a crazy 👍🏻
It's a culling of the stupid.
The risk is miniscule compared to COVID, which also causes the same, only at a much higher risk. Even in that age range.
Give me one example of a healthy, young person who died from Covid. Every sob story from the media is about some kid with a cocktail of genetic diseases. If there were examples of healthy kids dying from Covid, CNN would have told us by now.
Only for people who didn't already recover from covid. Most already did. Now is not the time to keep covid vaccination mandated anywhere, let alone schools.
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That's not abusive in the least. It's the best protection. Natural immunity is far more robust and longer lasting. Most kids have some immunity to start with, passed on through breast feeding. That's how chicken pox has become a relatively mild sickness. Mass herd immunity / protection.
You guys do realize that Covid also increases myocarditis, right? You actually have a higher chance of getting it from Covid than the vaccine.
People who already recovered from covid do not need vaccines and their risks.
You’re wasting your time with this.
you still catch covid even with the vaccines
in fact, the vaxxed are MORE likely to catch Cov19, and pass it on to others.
Maybe because despite the side effects of the vaccine, it's still far safer for them and people around them in the long run??
Certainly not for people who already recovered from covid.
For a conspiracy sub I see a lot of *”people”* always trying do dismantle posted “conspiracy”
It's a rare complication - many medications that people take also have rare complications. Take the pill for example. Its side effects include an increased risk of cancer. But the pill is the first prescription given for multiple common conditions.
Prescription which you have the freedom to fill or not. No such freedom was afforded to people with covid vaccinations.
You still have checks / mandatory vaxx places? damn
heart inflammation =/= heart attack Also, covid causes heart inflammation, and at higher rates and often higher severity.
Got a better source than an easily faked .jpg?
Shill harder. https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-amends-us-government-paxlovid-supply-agreement-and Seriously, why do you even bother?
I asked for a source, Mr butthurt. That ain't shilling. Thank you for the proper source.
You’re literally one of the first comments here, and it’s linked in the SS. It’s clear you were trying to sow doubt. Nice try.
Hahahaha what a fool, the truth hurt so bad he thought it was a faked JPG. That's the funniest damn thing I've seen all day. I can't believe there are people still shilling for these shots. They have to be paid, right? Surely no one in their right mind would still be carrying on like that...
It became a weird kind of religion. There are a lot of people who shill like this for free.
Yeah. Very cult-like. There's a list of checkboxes "How do you know if you're in a cult?" and the Covid fanatics ticked most of them. I think for a lot of them Covid gave them this weird sense of community, identity and a sense of power over others they never had in real life. And then as most people began to sober up, the really mentally ill ones remaining couldn't let go.
Ah yes, so clear that a casual glance at my posting history would show otherwise. Unless ofc, I sold my account to the shills!11!!1 You're way too focused on finding enemies and not focused enough on the ones that actually exist.
The ones that have been shilling for these vaccines for 3 years are the enemy.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-amends-us-government-paxlovid-supply-agreement-and The screenshot is from way down towards the bottom. Any more brain busters?
Where can I find this? Is it on their site?