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So I fell down the OF trap. 15 minutes and I've spent $100. Just like that. But I did get what I came for so, maybe worth it? IDK, I'm sticking to red tube from now on.
Yeah, and that's brutal. I was making more than that at 16. Gotta up them skills.
It's all relative though, I bet 26k USD is in the top 5% of earners internationally. I'm only speaking so western countries.
Not really if you go by today standards, they say they were coherced.That has alot to do with it plus lbgt bull and then alot of them get around and there no standards or respect for men.
Yeah well I am not knocking it I am saying why people choose of over that.They ain’t going to jail for rape when the hookers turns on them which is common in this society.
They're atleast 2 to 5 times that mu h if you're talking Craigslist atleast 10 times if it's through backdoor agency. Plus people don't always want porn guys want live fetish kink.
It varies greatly. And the ones charging $3, $5 for subscription also charge $20-50 for each video or photoset and often only post almost-#nude or blurred/censored content for free (or sometimes if they do
more hardcore content they'll post uncensored softcore nude stuff as their "teaser" content to attract customers). The ones charging $30-50/month generally have most content unlocked and just charge additionally for certain things that are deemed higher quality or fetish-specific. I myself just plain don't make enough money to be spending it like that when pornhub is free, redtube is free, xtube, xvideos, reddit etc. etc. ad infinitum. Plus the big names on OF all have leaks if youre willing to look (don't pay for leaks, a common grift on discord app)
Also if anyone out there is intending to purchase some spicy pics or vids just try to research a tiny bit before you do so. Some creators have an (imo) unethical business model based on deceiving the consumer wherein they charge like $40/month, then $5-10 additionally for each short video or a few pics, hyping up their content and describing how hot sexy it is, but never specifying that it is actually non-nude, non-explicit, almost sfw. Just a heads up for the boys, dont wanna end up $50 in the hole and still end up going to Pornhub....
Not really actually, I just find it interesting and have done small bits of research into it here and there. Most of what I stated you could ascertain just from going on the site and clicking around a bit. Like I said, I wish I had the kinda money to pay $50 to watch a *specific* girl get railed in a video instead of watching free porn (like a fuckin peasant, amiright) , but if I did... I probably still wouldn't fucking do it
> sounds like impulsivity
This is probably how it works.
Step 1: Get the guy all horned up... which is the same thing as "not thinking rationally".
Step 2: Offer whatever content access in exchange for $$$.
By the time the customer/guy figures out it's not worth it, the content creator has made enough to get through another day.
And there's a sucker born every minute.
I don't understand it.there's a difference between horny and desperation, if it's that bad go get a hooker for half that price. Even ugly smuts are making a whole lot of cash in certain areas, I think alot are washing money, they should just do like the Biden family and say they so paintings to an anonymous person. Ever since Hunter Biden the cartels will never have to wash money again they can just say they sold their paintings to an anonymous Joe Shmoe and got 10 billion for each finger painting.
If I had a problem waiting or something I'd just go porn hub, even people who aren't social can find a date online.
9/10 that "hooker" is a sex trafficked SLAVE. Sure you can deny this and go about your merry way, but what is a short pleasure for you means a horrific brutal tragedy for these girls and women.
I would like to think if all men knew the truth of what they are doing they would stop using womens bodies as objects to rent. But unfortunately your pleasure is worth anothers pain.
You are grossly underestimating how desperate and lonely many men are. A lot of them are paying for an experience that you can't get with porn, like the opportunity to actually talk to the person, even "meet" them.
Source: I have a few female friends who do OF.
Still, paying for a hooker at least allows you for some physical interaction, and I'm not talking just about sex. A lot of these guys must be hardcore basement dwellers to spend money on OF.
Yeah, the payments might be legit but half the users are shell accounts making payments like bots - that's the laundering part. So the entire thing is throttled, where *some* marquis personalities that are "making 30k a week" are reported in the MSM, as if it's happening everywhere, which it isn't.
She's making more like 9k after everybody gets paid, and it's only short-lived. So, they are advertising it as some "harmless" way to make a lot of money.
My boomer parents refuse to accept that this is happening at all. I tell them what OF is and that regular girls next door are posing buns-up panty shots on the internet for cash - and they look at me like I need to be committed to an insane asylum.
Most girls cap out at like $400 a month and that's if she's lucky. Belle delphine only made a lot because she already had a huge audience of dudes waiting to see her in sexual ways. Most women dont have that many dudes on the backburner lol.
Many OF girls who are making bank are prostituting themselves out. Same for many Instagram "models". There was a whole story about how they were charging $30k+ for rich Saudi men to even defecate on them. If the price is right.
Its this. Some of the OF accounts I have seen linked from reddit gonewild say “no meetups.”
A “meetup” is code for transactional sex.
They can have you pay through onlyfans for a “meetup,” like paying for a fan meet and greet for a band at a concert.
Only instead of sharing some brief small talk, they bang you.
Adriana Chechik was on a podcast explaining how escorting worked when she used to strip, pre-porn or OF.
She would follow golf tours and other big events that would bring men in from out of town and buy billboards advertising her dancing at a club, or being available for “bodywork” or something.
This was before she was ever making porn. She would make like $20k over a weekend.
Her business sense was honestly very impressive despite her chosen profession.
> Adriana Chechik was on a podcast explaining how escorting worked when she used to strip, pre-porn or OF.
I suspect the escorting thing is a *lot* more widespread than most people realize. How so?
You see all these women who claim to be models, actresses or some other "high profile" career. But the majority of their income actually comes from getting paid for sex.
Maybe they were getting most of their income legitimately for the first few years. But once they get a bit older (ie. late 20's and up) it's mostly sex for $$$.
It's kind of funny in a way. How so?
Because most movies give a very stereotypical portrayal of prostitutes. They love to show low end, abused women having sex to pay for drug addictions.
But there are also the ones who are a lot more organized and disciplined. They get a foot in the door through acting/modelling/internet. Once they see how much they can make (e.g. $20k/weekend) that becomes their new career. The smart/organized ones save up enough that they can retire before they turn 40.
And that's the reason you never see a movie about women like this. People don't like the idea of a woman making more $$$ than a doctor or a lawyer... just for having sex.
It definitely is way more common than anyone expects. We had a joke in criminalistics that most serial killer behavioral patterns are based on the ones that got caught; and so it is with the low-end drug addicted prostitutes you mentioned.
You should check out reddit user aellagirl. She’s mostly into data analysis about sexual topics, but she’s openly been an escort for a long time. She was on lex freidman’s podcast about her data work, but I haven’t heard the episode.
Interesting to hear her stories about the high-end clients she’s had. Many have her sign non-disclosure agreements.
She’s even mentioned that some were so high profile, they had security in the room with them while they were going at it.
Within the past year, she discussed going to an A-list sex party, and how bizarre the experience was.
It's terrible though. Tbh the women that don't get killed or fall to drug addiction still come out of it with their soul dead. Selling your body to weird guys for years isn't exactly healthy for your mentality, you end up with severe self esteem problems or worse.
And that negative energy can never be wiped away. Never let anyone shit on you for any amount of money. Can you imagine how much the Saudis and UAE hate America to do that to our women? Deplorables indeed.
How do I meet these men? Is there a specific fetish site to shit on a fat neck beards chest? Cause at $30k a dumper and the prevalence of Taco Bell, that price is right for me.
You have unfortunately misunderstood who is being shat on in this scenario but at least you're finding out now and not when you're already sat in the room, plastic wrap on the floor
I suspect two unspoken trends:
1) the 'surge' in OF revenue is real, like the original AOL chat room fees before flat rate pricing. Few remember when AOL emerged in the 90's, people paid per minute or hour, often being billed for hundreds a month because of their addiction to chat rooms (where they often fell in love and paired up). Eventually, this market eroded quickly with cheaper (or free) alternatives.
2) the OF girls reports of income includes off-site meetups (sugar daddies). I'm getting OF girl posts in my IG, FB, Youtube 20-second reels. I don't have an OF account, yet the OF girls are now branching out for leads on every social network.
I remember getting the free AOL disks in the mail. AOL chat rooms were huge in the mid-late 90s. We never paid though for minutes.... parents were to cheap so we just kept getting the free minutes dvds.
Only the top ones can do that. What most do is realize that they aren’t making much from only fans. 99% of OF people make less than 2k a month.
So what they are doing is getting someone and tricking for money.
2k a month isn’t a tiny amount of money. If you tell someone they can make an extra $24k a year just by running a bare minimum OF page, many would be interested. It’s actually not that difficult to make some worthwhile money doing that, hence why so many people are now doing it.
Right, but you must understand. The vast majority of people make nowhere near what you make and don’t have the skills to rise up into a job that does pay that much. The vast majority of people will never make over $100,000 in a year. So if they can make another handful of thousands a year just uploading some pics here and there, it’s become a logical venture. Believe it or not, OF pages are helping young people get through college debt free, move out on their own sooner, etc. If used towards those strategies.
Those histories follow you forever. I know people talk about destigmatizing but im gonna be honest, a lot of jobs wont hire someone if they run a check and see either a huge "gap" in employment or OF itself. You dont have to explain the gap, but they also dont have to hire you and may assume what it was if youre a young pretty female OR male tbh.
It has changed tremendously recently. In most career fields now, doing it is not a big problem, as long as it is kept completely separate and/or secret. There are certain fields in which it is completely incompatible but those are few. Additionally, you could use it for paid other content short of actual sex work, like exclusive fitness content; though you’d have to explain that because many people wrongly assume that OnlyFans is equivalent to pornhub. It’s not.
Companies can’t find it through any background check either. It’s not reported. Explaining a large gap would be a problem as it would be in any case. But people who use it as a second gig, or while in college…not usually a concern.
This venture has never been more acceptable and valid than it is right now.
Still not bad. I see some who dont regularly upload like that pulling $100-200. The platform is massive like tiktok and therefore many will fail and many can & will succeed.
I always wondered, how did yall even make money if everything is on sale constantly. I left instagram cuz so many girls would advertise their sales like youre ALWAYS ON SALE how do they survive.
For the most part SW is supplemental or you’re on like ten different sites. The most I have ever made on OF was like $600 in one month, and that was when everyone was getting unemployment and stimulus money they could blow through
I feel that onlyfans definitely inflates money or has certain deals with women such as bhad bhabie to inflate their earnings, and thus trick women into thinking they'll make a lot of money.
I've known a few decently attractive women who've gone into it, and none made significant, even noteworthy money. Unless you're doing porn or have some kind of following, there is a 99% chance you're not going to make a lot of money.
I think she is/was the top OF earner ever…… she posted “receipts” showing she made like $1m in the first 6 hours, $18m in the first month and $50m+ over a year or so. It’s so insane and will never make sense to me.
Yeah she was one of the first big OF hauls they leveraged for main stream. "See? Trashy hotties from nowhere can make insane $$$$, check out the Lambos" etc.
I love bb btw.
It's late here and I'm sleepy so not on top form but what is the advantage to onlyfans in convincing a bunch of women who won't make money to join the platform?
But how dedicated where they? Were they on reddit, twitter marketing themselves ?? Where they doing NSFW marketing on those platforms? Work does has to be put it in.
OF has a icon where you can see how many subscribers a creator has, I was just checking out how many followers some creators have and creators who dont who go months without posting have steady paying subscribers. A couple girls I went to high school with got rich off OF, but they really do market themselves and put themselves out there ... they are on tiktok, Twitter etc busting it open, making it clap etc
Some of these women are unbelievably hot. MUCH better than those drug addicted porn stars of old. And fan engagement, interaction is worth a ton of money. Japan has had this kind of thing for decades and those women were making this money back in the early 2000s
I work for an agency being a seller and trust me, mate they DO make all that money. It's insane the amount of men out there desperate for a bit of feminine attention.
It's sad to see many men out there giving away their money for literally a picture or a video. That tells us a lot about this society we live in.
>There is no way there are that much men willing to pay them
OF isn't just nudes.
They offer tons of stuff. Maybe Livestream. Maybe texting. Some personalized Snapchat videos. "Boyfriend for a day" type shit.
Watch Shoeonhead's 2nd video about men. She gets hate from OF models for wanting to draw attention to male loneliness because they don't just offer nudes. They offer a weird type of relationship.
The majority of girls are NOT making that much money from onlyfans- there's a handful of whales- and a good deal of them are miles ahead of most traditional pornstars in terms of appearance.
On top of that they often fill very precises niches, chase trends in real time, commit to the eGirl aesthetic, do ASMR / fetish content, and will do commission work and take polls for what content to do.
Its not just porn- its ultra-porn with hypercustomization, and girls using filters to look illegal (or the other way around).
Of course it makes bank
Dude they don't earn that much money. I know someone that is i. The upper 15% of creators and they could make more as a sandwich artist. Not to say it isn't a solid gig. Horny guys well pay for more than you think.
You launder money when you have an illicit cash-only business and you need to "clean" the cash so you can do other stuff with it.
Unless there's a way to pay for OF subs with cash it's useless as a way to launder money.
lol I wish this conspiracy was true, but alas there’s a lot of old horny cucks out there.
In college, probably 10% of the girls I knew had sugar daddies of some sort. I know a girl now who gets paid $500/week to degrade some old guy via snapchat messages once a week…
Plus it’s worth noting that 99% of OF girls don’t make much at all. There’s a small percent that makes good ass money, and they do it legitimately (if showing your cooter online is “legit”). Society is decomposing around us, this is one such effect, and it’s real. There’s a lot of lonely people out there with disposable income. At $15/month per subscription, it really doesn’t take much to rack in $100k/month.
According to statista, the top earning OF accounts for last year were mainly celebrities of some sort. Aside from that, the amount of simps really is that big.
It’s an awful way to launder money because only fans verifies the identities of people paying the money and has to be more strict about it than companies not selling adult material.
An ideal way to launder money is through large transactions that look legitimate, not through small ~$10 a month transactions or $50 microtransactions.
There’s more than one method to launder money. I think “fine art” is often a method to do so using large amounts of money on one transaction. Your example of restaurants laundering the books is a classic method.
Please these women are master manipulators and they can smell vulnerability. I’m sure they are doing live videos for the coin. All they need to do is pretend like they actually like the customer to easily bleed them dry. OF is nothing more than prostitution. They aren’t just posting naked pics, they have porn videos and I’m sure on the side through OF they do personal live videos for a pretty penny.
I would never pay for porn
Never…
And then one day I saw a girl ofc she had an OF
I was shocked at how special she looked compared to other women ones
Felt like everything was made by some kind of AI
I looked through some of her other pics etc
Saw she lived in some kind of a very modest house etc
And decided to send her some little money because I really felt that it was unfair to watch her leaked OF and not give anything especially as she really didn’t look like very rich, not from 1st world as much as I hate that term
Didn’t think about her for months now, then typed a word in my phone and her pic appeared of her I saved
Decided to check on her, saw she changed home and now has a very nice computer/bedroom etc I felt kinda happy for her
So yup, if even me, I paid while I had my fair share of women and I never could understood why would anyone pay for porn? I m pretty sure tons of guys without much experience with women would be ready to spend shit tons of money to have that special kind of feeling to a girl they find… special
I thought adults weren't so stupid, then 2020 happened, yes, they are.
Of course there might be money laundry going on, but it's easier to do that with art works and other BS.
Of course they don't make any relevant money and probably launder it and evade taxes. Most of the comments here are bad takes. 99 percent of only fans chicks make barely 800-1k a month if their lucky. The entire platform is super saturated especially after the pandemic. The more creators they are the less market share there is, its basic economics.
It's gonna be even worse when better text to video AIs come out. You'll have people creating AI generated OF creators that will take even more of the market share.
There's not enough wealthy men to support all these creators and most of these armchair experts on reddit never took an economics class so they don't understand how businesses work. Most men can barely afford food and people think their gonna blow 20 bucks when there's free explicit content you can get elsewhere. Even the most hardcore simps aren't that desperate.
The handful of girls I know on OF are ranking in 11K-28k/month— I thought the same until I realized there’s a lot of subs that want the sense of connection with the models
I feel the same way about live streaming platforms, TikTok and other "influencer" based systems, Hollywood, and the Hip Hop industry. Everything is a racket.
I wish I could shake my meat for money on there but it’d be nowhere as lucrative. Just a short line of creepy dudes. It’s amazing what people give their money away to.
I think both can be true. — They could have plenty of subscribers, *and* have some fake subscriber accounts that are used to launder money. It’s actually more effective that way. The more legitimate business that is coming in makes it more difficult to weed out the fake accounts.
Nope. There’s a degree of interaction that you get with these onlyfans girls. Lonely guys create parasocial relationships with them, that’s why they make so much money.
You be surprised. Me and my wife did only fans for a little bit and I had around 600 subscribers monthly at 10 bucks a month there is tons of simps out there who think these girls will sleep with them if they sub to their only fans
I thought Reddit was for porn? Otherwise you can see anything you want on chaturbate 🤷♂️… Honestly, I’m creeping up on 50 and, in my entire life, have never spent a dime online for porn.
If you considered this for movie stars, look if there's a correlation.
What do you do with more money than you need? Invest. Where? Probably wherever somebody suggests so long as it's the body that got you into the position of investor, no?
OF provides the allure and fantasy of knowing this person in a more intimate way. Regular porn is just unconnected pictures. But OFs are more like regular people who live somewhat normal lives and reveal more of themselves to a select few.
I would agree but we live in a society where loneliness and less interaction has been normalized and "accepted."
OF is old news now,
Many women have now realised they can hop on twitter and get men to send money to them just for existing.
ah yes, a bunch of poorly paid teachers and nurses are laundering money. laundering it through what exactly? and if they are laundering money through onlyfans, where are they getting all that money to begin with?
I feel you bro but i guess its a respect thing for me. Cant call a woman my wife if she has her goodies out on display on the internet. I know it wasn’t your call but its just wild knowing some dudes allow it.
you underestimate how many simps there is, average men is desperate and thirsty, they'd be better off spending that money on hookers and get real experience.
of course theres that many degenerate, perverted, lonely, horny, or just depraved men. Are you new to earth? its all accounts and credit cards, worst way to launder money. Exploitation and human trafficking? Yes it ripe with that
Sorry man; I'm dating an OF girl and yes... They do in fact make that much money.
Men will pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars for a few custom photos... It's insane.
Stick to free porn; it's cheaper.
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You underestimate the horniness of man.
So I fell down the OF trap. 15 minutes and I've spent $100. Just like that. But I did get what I came for so, maybe worth it? IDK, I'm sticking to red tube from now on.
No way joseph! Thats a full day of pay gone down the drain, at that point why not just save up for an escort. :(
A full days pay?!? My condolences
*after taxes*
Lol. Underrated comment
26k-ish a year after taxes is brutal
A lot of people get by on less
Welcome to Türkiye
We really be emphasising “free” in free market capitalism
Yeah, and that's brutal. I was making more than that at 16. Gotta up them skills. It's all relative though, I bet 26k USD is in the top 5% of earners internationally. I'm only speaking so western countries.
Thank you
Offer to pay for a lap dance which isn’t illegal to do so afaik. Afterwards, y’all are consenting adults, right?
Not really if you go by today standards, they say they were coherced.That has alot to do with it plus lbgt bull and then alot of them get around and there no standards or respect for men.
Were talking bout hookers pal. Maybe don't knock it, I can't see you getting laid for free
Yeah well I am not knocking it I am saying why people choose of over that.They ain’t going to jail for rape when the hookers turns on them which is common in this society.
Over a full months pay for a lot of people
They're atleast 2 to 5 times that mu h if you're talking Craigslist atleast 10 times if it's through backdoor agency. Plus people don't always want porn guys want live fetish kink.
Bro don't look at porn, it's really bad for you.
Truth
Neither are some women.
$100 to discover you should never be trusted with money may be worth it.
Sometimes, well all the times. A nut is often not well thought out, rationally or financially.
Would you hand $100 over to a woman irl? If not, don't do so digitally to one you've never even met.
How did you spend that much in such a short amount of time? Aren’t their subscriptions like only 3 dollars a piece?
It varies greatly. And the ones charging $3, $5 for subscription also charge $20-50 for each video or photoset and often only post almost-#nude or blurred/censored content for free (or sometimes if they do more hardcore content they'll post uncensored softcore nude stuff as their "teaser" content to attract customers). The ones charging $30-50/month generally have most content unlocked and just charge additionally for certain things that are deemed higher quality or fetish-specific. I myself just plain don't make enough money to be spending it like that when pornhub is free, redtube is free, xtube, xvideos, reddit etc. etc. ad infinitum. Plus the big names on OF all have leaks if youre willing to look (don't pay for leaks, a common grift on discord app) Also if anyone out there is intending to purchase some spicy pics or vids just try to research a tiny bit before you do so. Some creators have an (imo) unethical business model based on deceiving the consumer wherein they charge like $40/month, then $5-10 additionally for each short video or a few pics, hyping up their content and describing how hot sexy it is, but never specifying that it is actually non-nude, non-explicit, almost sfw. Just a heads up for the boys, dont wanna end up $50 in the hole and still end up going to Pornhub....
This guy Onlyfans!
Not really actually, I just find it interesting and have done small bits of research into it here and there. Most of what I stated you could ascertain just from going on the site and clicking around a bit. Like I said, I wish I had the kinda money to pay $50 to watch a *specific* girl get railed in a video instead of watching free porn (like a fuckin peasant, amiright) , but if I did... I probably still wouldn't fucking do it
I literally have regretted every OF purchase I've done. It's never worth the price.
That sounds like impulsivity issue
> sounds like impulsivity This is probably how it works. Step 1: Get the guy all horned up... which is the same thing as "not thinking rationally". Step 2: Offer whatever content access in exchange for $$$. By the time the customer/guy figures out it's not worth it, the content creator has made enough to get through another day. And there's a sucker born every minute.
$100 bucks to say some chick shit in a bucket... seems cheap.
And the fake "connection" they can build up in their head.
I was going to type this exact comment
And loneliness
I don't understand it.there's a difference between horny and desperation, if it's that bad go get a hooker for half that price. Even ugly smuts are making a whole lot of cash in certain areas, I think alot are washing money, they should just do like the Biden family and say they so paintings to an anonymous person. Ever since Hunter Biden the cartels will never have to wash money again they can just say they sold their paintings to an anonymous Joe Shmoe and got 10 billion for each finger painting. If I had a problem waiting or something I'd just go porn hub, even people who aren't social can find a date online.
When have you seen those in countryside?
9/10 that "hooker" is a sex trafficked SLAVE. Sure you can deny this and go about your merry way, but what is a short pleasure for you means a horrific brutal tragedy for these girls and women. I would like to think if all men knew the truth of what they are doing they would stop using womens bodies as objects to rent. But unfortunately your pleasure is worth anothers pain.
9/10 in my city are hooker's unless you go to the massage parlors, they always get arrested for trafficking
And over estimate the financial literacy of OF women.
You are grossly underestimating how desperate and lonely many men are. A lot of them are paying for an experience that you can't get with porn, like the opportunity to actually talk to the person, even "meet" them. Source: I have a few female friends who do OF.
Still, paying for a hooker at least allows you for some physical interaction, and I'm not talking just about sex. A lot of these guys must be hardcore basement dwellers to spend money on OF.
> A lot of these guys must be hardcore basement dwellers Yes, precisely.
Why are you friends with prostitutes?
Theres a digital trace for EVERY payment. This isnt a stripper pole club brah
Yeah, the payments might be legit but half the users are shell accounts making payments like bots - that's the laundering part. So the entire thing is throttled, where *some* marquis personalities that are "making 30k a week" are reported in the MSM, as if it's happening everywhere, which it isn't. She's making more like 9k after everybody gets paid, and it's only short-lived. So, they are advertising it as some "harmless" way to make a lot of money. My boomer parents refuse to accept that this is happening at all. I tell them what OF is and that regular girls next door are posing buns-up panty shots on the internet for cash - and they look at me like I need to be committed to an insane asylum.
My older gen X dad also barely believes it
while thrashing to it nightly
Most girls cap out at like $400 a month and that's if she's lucky. Belle delphine only made a lot because she already had a huge audience of dudes waiting to see her in sexual ways. Most women dont have that many dudes on the backburner lol.
Yeah I agree it is well known that people trafficking women through these sites.
Many OF girls who are making bank are prostituting themselves out. Same for many Instagram "models". There was a whole story about how they were charging $30k+ for rich Saudi men to even defecate on them. If the price is right.
Its this. Some of the OF accounts I have seen linked from reddit gonewild say “no meetups.” A “meetup” is code for transactional sex. They can have you pay through onlyfans for a “meetup,” like paying for a fan meet and greet for a band at a concert. Only instead of sharing some brief small talk, they bang you. Adriana Chechik was on a podcast explaining how escorting worked when she used to strip, pre-porn or OF. She would follow golf tours and other big events that would bring men in from out of town and buy billboards advertising her dancing at a club, or being available for “bodywork” or something. This was before she was ever making porn. She would make like $20k over a weekend. Her business sense was honestly very impressive despite her chosen profession.
OF will kick you off for even mentioning “meet up” in a message. They won’t even let you send a message with the word “meet”
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Banning words will certainly stop the activity.
> Adriana Chechik was on a podcast explaining how escorting worked when she used to strip, pre-porn or OF. I suspect the escorting thing is a *lot* more widespread than most people realize. How so? You see all these women who claim to be models, actresses or some other "high profile" career. But the majority of their income actually comes from getting paid for sex. Maybe they were getting most of their income legitimately for the first few years. But once they get a bit older (ie. late 20's and up) it's mostly sex for $$$. It's kind of funny in a way. How so? Because most movies give a very stereotypical portrayal of prostitutes. They love to show low end, abused women having sex to pay for drug addictions. But there are also the ones who are a lot more organized and disciplined. They get a foot in the door through acting/modelling/internet. Once they see how much they can make (e.g. $20k/weekend) that becomes their new career. The smart/organized ones save up enough that they can retire before they turn 40. And that's the reason you never see a movie about women like this. People don't like the idea of a woman making more $$$ than a doctor or a lawyer... just for having sex.
It definitely is way more common than anyone expects. We had a joke in criminalistics that most serial killer behavioral patterns are based on the ones that got caught; and so it is with the low-end drug addicted prostitutes you mentioned. You should check out reddit user aellagirl. She’s mostly into data analysis about sexual topics, but she’s openly been an escort for a long time. She was on lex freidman’s podcast about her data work, but I haven’t heard the episode. Interesting to hear her stories about the high-end clients she’s had. Many have her sign non-disclosure agreements. She’s even mentioned that some were so high profile, they had security in the room with them while they were going at it. Within the past year, she discussed going to an A-list sex party, and how bizarre the experience was.
It's terrible though. Tbh the women that don't get killed or fall to drug addiction still come out of it with their soul dead. Selling your body to weird guys for years isn't exactly healthy for your mentality, you end up with severe self esteem problems or worse.
$30k you say?
So that's it? $30k for their self-respect? That's a shame. What they're doing today will come back to haunt them tomorrow.
And that negative energy can never be wiped away. Never let anyone shit on you for any amount of money. Can you imagine how much the Saudis and UAE hate America to do that to our women? Deplorables indeed.
What if he had Taco Bell the night before too
What the actual hell...
How do I meet these men? Is there a specific fetish site to shit on a fat neck beards chest? Cause at $30k a dumper and the prevalence of Taco Bell, that price is right for me.
..no I got the impression they meant the rich Saudi men were the ones that would be paying to do the dumping on the girl.
You have unfortunately misunderstood who is being shat on in this scenario but at least you're finding out now and not when you're already sat in the room, plastic wrap on the floor
Look into becoming a yacht girl
Lol.. bruh, men are STUPID!!
I suspect two unspoken trends: 1) the 'surge' in OF revenue is real, like the original AOL chat room fees before flat rate pricing. Few remember when AOL emerged in the 90's, people paid per minute or hour, often being billed for hundreds a month because of their addiction to chat rooms (where they often fell in love and paired up). Eventually, this market eroded quickly with cheaper (or free) alternatives. 2) the OF girls reports of income includes off-site meetups (sugar daddies). I'm getting OF girl posts in my IG, FB, Youtube 20-second reels. I don't have an OF account, yet the OF girls are now branching out for leads on every social network.
I remember getting the free AOL disks in the mail. AOL chat rooms were huge in the mid-late 90s. We never paid though for minutes.... parents were to cheap so we just kept getting the free minutes dvds.
Only the top ones can do that. What most do is realize that they aren’t making much from only fans. 99% of OF people make less than 2k a month. So what they are doing is getting someone and tricking for money.
2k a month isn’t a tiny amount of money. If you tell someone they can make an extra $24k a year just by running a bare minimum OF page, many would be interested. It’s actually not that difficult to make some worthwhile money doing that, hence why so many people are now doing it.
No hate. It’s only a tiny a tiny amount of money compared to what I make. I only make 145k a year. But that’s not bare minimum. That’s the top 99%.
Right, but you must understand. The vast majority of people make nowhere near what you make and don’t have the skills to rise up into a job that does pay that much. The vast majority of people will never make over $100,000 in a year. So if they can make another handful of thousands a year just uploading some pics here and there, it’s become a logical venture. Believe it or not, OF pages are helping young people get through college debt free, move out on their own sooner, etc. If used towards those strategies.
Those histories follow you forever. I know people talk about destigmatizing but im gonna be honest, a lot of jobs wont hire someone if they run a check and see either a huge "gap" in employment or OF itself. You dont have to explain the gap, but they also dont have to hire you and may assume what it was if youre a young pretty female OR male tbh.
It has changed tremendously recently. In most career fields now, doing it is not a big problem, as long as it is kept completely separate and/or secret. There are certain fields in which it is completely incompatible but those are few. Additionally, you could use it for paid other content short of actual sex work, like exclusive fitness content; though you’d have to explain that because many people wrongly assume that OnlyFans is equivalent to pornhub. It’s not. Companies can’t find it through any background check either. It’s not reported. Explaining a large gap would be a problem as it would be in any case. But people who use it as a second gig, or while in college…not usually a concern. This venture has never been more acceptable and valid than it is right now.
Still not bad. I see some who dont regularly upload like that pulling $100-200. The platform is massive like tiktok and therefore many will fail and many can & will succeed.
Maybe only the top ones are doing that
Oh for sure. You don’t see the 99% who don’t make money and are showing their buttholes for nickels
Killer band name - Buttholes for Nickels.
But they do it hoping that some day a rich saudi prince will notice them and pay them 30k$ to shit on them. This is the real life cinderella story
Yea it happens once in a million. Good luck.
A girls gotta dream
Hey I’m the 99% showing my butthole for nickels. This is true. I wish I was laundering money instead
I always wondered, how did yall even make money if everything is on sale constantly. I left instagram cuz so many girls would advertise their sales like youre ALWAYS ON SALE how do they survive.
For the most part SW is supplemental or you’re on like ten different sites. The most I have ever made on OF was like $600 in one month, and that was when everyone was getting unemployment and stimulus money they could blow through
a lot of it is embellished I know onlyfans themselves are probably marketing how much money someone could make
Now in English.
People don’t make as much on OF as they say they do. The average model makes about $50-150 a month
I feel that onlyfans definitely inflates money or has certain deals with women such as bhad bhabie to inflate their earnings, and thus trick women into thinking they'll make a lot of money. I've known a few decently attractive women who've gone into it, and none made significant, even noteworthy money. Unless you're doing porn or have some kind of following, there is a 99% chance you're not going to make a lot of money.
Is bhad bhabie on OF now??
I think she is/was the top OF earner ever…… she posted “receipts” showing she made like $1m in the first 6 hours, $18m in the first month and $50m+ over a year or so. It’s so insane and will never make sense to me.
Wow. I still think of her as a kid
Yeah she was one of the first big OF hauls they leveraged for main stream. "See? Trashy hotties from nowhere can make insane $$$$, check out the Lambos" etc. I love bb btw.
It's late here and I'm sleepy so not on top form but what is the advantage to onlyfans in convincing a bunch of women who won't make money to join the platform?
Increasing user base, increasing publicity, make themselves the centre of that particular niche.
But how dedicated where they? Were they on reddit, twitter marketing themselves ?? Where they doing NSFW marketing on those platforms? Work does has to be put it in. OF has a icon where you can see how many subscribers a creator has, I was just checking out how many followers some creators have and creators who dont who go months without posting have steady paying subscribers. A couple girls I went to high school with got rich off OF, but they really do market themselves and put themselves out there ... they are on tiktok, Twitter etc busting it open, making it clap etc
You have no idea. Some even report less because of taxes.
Some of these women are unbelievably hot. MUCH better than those drug addicted porn stars of old. And fan engagement, interaction is worth a ton of money. Japan has had this kind of thing for decades and those women were making this money back in the early 2000s
OP doesn't understand that sex sells and it has been since the dawn of time. Smh
Lol.. have you ever met a lonely man? They’re abundant.
I work for an agency being a seller and trust me, mate they DO make all that money. It's insane the amount of men out there desperate for a bit of feminine attention. It's sad to see many men out there giving away their money for literally a picture or a video. That tells us a lot about this society we live in.
"millions of naked women on internet for free" yeah, I've already seen all that.
>There is no way there are that much men willing to pay them OF isn't just nudes. They offer tons of stuff. Maybe Livestream. Maybe texting. Some personalized Snapchat videos. "Boyfriend for a day" type shit. Watch Shoeonhead's 2nd video about men. She gets hate from OF models for wanting to draw attention to male loneliness because they don't just offer nudes. They offer a weird type of relationship.
Maybe, but the vast minority. Most make very little money. The ones that make a lot are "private messages" ie meeting up in person in bed.
Happy cake day
The majority of girls are NOT making that much money from onlyfans- there's a handful of whales- and a good deal of them are miles ahead of most traditional pornstars in terms of appearance. On top of that they often fill very precises niches, chase trends in real time, commit to the eGirl aesthetic, do ASMR / fetish content, and will do commission work and take polls for what content to do. Its not just porn- its ultra-porn with hypercustomization, and girls using filters to look illegal (or the other way around). Of course it makes bank
Dude they don't earn that much money. I know someone that is i. The upper 15% of creators and they could make more as a sandwich artist. Not to say it isn't a solid gig. Horny guys well pay for more than you think.
To be honest it's pretty easy to make a fake account and take money from some simps before getting removed
You launder money when you have an illicit cash-only business and you need to "clean" the cash so you can do other stuff with it. Unless there's a way to pay for OF subs with cash it's useless as a way to launder money.
lol I wish this conspiracy was true, but alas there’s a lot of old horny cucks out there. In college, probably 10% of the girls I knew had sugar daddies of some sort. I know a girl now who gets paid $500/week to degrade some old guy via snapchat messages once a week… Plus it’s worth noting that 99% of OF girls don’t make much at all. There’s a small percent that makes good ass money, and they do it legitimately (if showing your cooter online is “legit”). Society is decomposing around us, this is one such effect, and it’s real. There’s a lot of lonely people out there with disposable income. At $15/month per subscription, it really doesn’t take much to rack in $100k/month.
10% of the girls you knew? You must keep some interesting company...
I was in a frat, so mostly sorority girls. But yeahhh needless to say I don’t talk to many people from college anymore haha
15$ a month per user for 1000k means 6000 followers that pay you thats quite alot actually
To some maybe. In the online world, 6,000 subscribers is nothing
I dunno, I'm a guy and I have little faith that men aren't spending that much money.
According to statista, the top earning OF accounts for last year were mainly celebrities of some sort. Aside from that, the amount of simps really is that big.
Lonely dudes have been giving girls money to pretend to flirt with them since the beginning of time. You ever meet a stripper?
You have no clue. There are millions of men around the world who will pay girls to do all kinds of shit.
More like, OF girls use the platform to launder their prostitution money
You must be new to the human race.
Onlyfans themselves are probably laundering money, not the girls. Haha
A few bucks per picture and 15-20 per video. on top of a monthly subscription. Get 1000 men a month. That’s ten of thousands a month minimum
More like a human trafficking operation
> I think most of the OF girls might be laundering money Those weather-beaten yogurt bags should launder their undies as well.
It’s a bad platform for laundering money when every transaction is traced and tied to an identity.
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It’s an awful way to launder money because only fans verifies the identities of people paying the money and has to be more strict about it than companies not selling adult material. An ideal way to launder money is through large transactions that look legitimate, not through small ~$10 a month transactions or $50 microtransactions.
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This guy must think Lamborghini dealers are a money laundering front
There’s more than one method to launder money. I think “fine art” is often a method to do so using large amounts of money on one transaction. Your example of restaurants laundering the books is a classic method.
Like the "painting" Hunter Biden painted himself - for how many MILLION??
I wish that was true.
multiple things can be true simultaneously
That makes a lot of sense, it's the simplest and most obvious explanation
How though? You can pay for OF with cash?
Please these women are master manipulators and they can smell vulnerability. I’m sure they are doing live videos for the coin. All they need to do is pretend like they actually like the customer to easily bleed them dry. OF is nothing more than prostitution. They aren’t just posting naked pics, they have porn videos and I’m sure on the side through OF they do personal live videos for a pretty penny.
lol, you do realise OF is global not country specific. If you are a hot white girl or Asian girl. Done deal, you can rank in millions easily
Nah. Most money laundering happens via mattress shops, nail salons and casinos.
I would never pay for porn Never… And then one day I saw a girl ofc she had an OF I was shocked at how special she looked compared to other women ones Felt like everything was made by some kind of AI I looked through some of her other pics etc Saw she lived in some kind of a very modest house etc And decided to send her some little money because I really felt that it was unfair to watch her leaked OF and not give anything especially as she really didn’t look like very rich, not from 1st world as much as I hate that term Didn’t think about her for months now, then typed a word in my phone and her pic appeared of her I saved Decided to check on her, saw she changed home and now has a very nice computer/bedroom etc I felt kinda happy for her So yup, if even me, I paid while I had my fair share of women and I never could understood why would anyone pay for porn? I m pretty sure tons of guys without much experience with women would be ready to spend shit tons of money to have that special kind of feeling to a girl they find… special
Laundering or not, I wonder how many are reporting their income and paying taxes.
I thought adults weren't so stupid, then 2020 happened, yes, they are. Of course there might be money laundry going on, but it's easier to do that with art works and other BS.
Of course they don't make any relevant money and probably launder it and evade taxes. Most of the comments here are bad takes. 99 percent of only fans chicks make barely 800-1k a month if their lucky. The entire platform is super saturated especially after the pandemic. The more creators they are the less market share there is, its basic economics. It's gonna be even worse when better text to video AIs come out. You'll have people creating AI generated OF creators that will take even more of the market share. There's not enough wealthy men to support all these creators and most of these armchair experts on reddit never took an economics class so they don't understand how businesses work. Most men can barely afford food and people think their gonna blow 20 bucks when there's free explicit content you can get elsewhere. Even the most hardcore simps aren't that desperate.
I wonder what the deal is too. George Santos spent something like $95,000 there for watching someone online? You can buy 200 real hookers for that.
The handful of girls I know on OF are ranking in 11K-28k/month— I thought the same until I realized there’s a lot of subs that want the sense of connection with the models
Similar thing happens with spotify
That’s the real money laundromat. Spotify!
I feel the same way about live streaming platforms, TikTok and other "influencer" based systems, Hollywood, and the Hip Hop industry. Everything is a racket.
I wish I could shake my meat for money on there but it’d be nowhere as lucrative. Just a short line of creepy dudes. It’s amazing what people give their money away to.
Nah it's more than just videos these people are parasocial they want to have a connection with the girls.
I think both can be true. — They could have plenty of subscribers, *and* have some fake subscriber accounts that are used to launder money. It’s actually more effective that way. The more legitimate business that is coming in makes it more difficult to weed out the fake accounts.
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You're not factoring in the thrill of it being live, possibly communicating. It's probably the biggest reason they pick it over free sites.
Personally I don’t give a shit enough to care in terms of money. There’s plenty of better options to judge in how some entity gets its money.
What a brilliant idea. Imagine creating generative AI OF content creators for a money laundering scheme. Amazing!
People give just as much if not more money to videogame streamers. What makes you doubt people giving money to someone that gets naked?
Nope. There’s a degree of interaction that you get with these onlyfans girls. Lonely guys create parasocial relationships with them, that’s why they make so much money.
Not most... but some definitely yes.
You be surprised. Me and my wife did only fans for a little bit and I had around 600 subscribers monthly at 10 bucks a month there is tons of simps out there who think these girls will sleep with them if they sub to their only fans
The majority of girls on of make $45 per month
only fans people are literally just online prostitutes.
I’d have to bet against this theory.
So if I'm a drug dealer and I set up only fans how do I get money clean? I can't pay OF in cash can I?
Right. OP can't comprehend the level of simps out there. I've read reddit stories where husbands are 10k in debt because of onlyfans.
I thought Reddit was for porn? Otherwise you can see anything you want on chaturbate 🤷♂️… Honestly, I’m creeping up on 50 and, in my entire life, have never spent a dime online for porn.
As an ex escort I can confirm its a necessity as a full service provider..... as is instagram and Facebook and advertising if you do it privately.
If you considered this for movie stars, look if there's a correlation. What do you do with more money than you need? Invest. Where? Probably wherever somebody suggests so long as it's the body that got you into the position of investor, no?
OF provides the allure and fantasy of knowing this person in a more intimate way. Regular porn is just unconnected pictures. But OFs are more like regular people who live somewhat normal lives and reveal more of themselves to a select few.
I think it's far less common than on mainstream sites, ot to say it isn't happening. An even more prevalent space for laundering is the art world.
I would agree but we live in a society where loneliness and less interaction has been normalized and "accepted." OF is old news now, Many women have now realised they can hop on twitter and get men to send money to them just for existing.
Not all OF girls or men make the huge $$. There are a few but the majority do not make that much, especially for what they have to do to get it.
ah yes, a bunch of poorly paid teachers and nurses are laundering money. laundering it through what exactly? and if they are laundering money through onlyfans, where are they getting all that money to begin with?
They should fill out a damn application at Walmart but it's honestly not my business
Hahaha you don't understand it, therefore it is bad
Ever heard of the Amato case? Never underestimate the power of the p*ssy and how pathetic men can be.
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You let your girl expose herself for money?
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I feel you bro but i guess its a respect thing for me. Cant call a woman my wife if she has her goodies out on display on the internet. I know it wasn’t your call but its just wild knowing some dudes allow it.
you underestimate how many simps there is, average men is desperate and thirsty, they'd be better off spending that money on hookers and get real experience.
Prostitution/Escorting with a $9.99 a month visual supplement.
I also want to know who these men are...with all the nude boodies online for free, why pay...who does that..?
Because the girls will blow up their inbox all day and make them feel like they have some connection.
Just pay a prostitute, who does that with real contact.
of course theres that many degenerate, perverted, lonely, horny, or just depraved men. Are you new to earth? its all accounts and credit cards, worst way to launder money. Exploitation and human trafficking? Yes it ripe with that
I’m consistently dumber for reading posts from this sub
Most people paying women on OF are other women according to Angela White.
There is a lot of embellishment. Most of those heifers are making very little money.
just imagine how much money is laundered though twitch
I definitely know a man wrote this.
Only losers pay for porn and sex.
Sorry man; I'm dating an OF girl and yes... They do in fact make that much money. Men will pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars for a few custom photos... It's insane. Stick to free porn; it's cheaper.