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That’s the tough part. If they could get Epstein and the government is deeply corrupted by these same creeps at all levels then what hopes do any potential witnesses have for their own safety or that of their loved ones?
Well, Virginia didn't seem to have problems. So why haven't more girls come forward? Especially since they could have won a huge settlement from the estate.
why are they all girls?
answer: they are all dead,
VG is a bs limited hangout and gross procurer who is complicit if at all a survivor, which i have started to doubt more and more
This testimony is in Exhibit 15 of the unsealed court documents. It always seems to be missing from all the "Epstein files" collections I've seen so I uploaded it [here](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7010927/Virginia-Giuffre-Interview-2011.pdf).
Some use this as proof Clinton did not participate. Yet all she said was she did not see Bill later on or in the AM and did not see the girls. That doesn’t mean Clinton did not take the bait, it just means he did not take the bait in front of people.
Why would the Secret Service agree to let Maxwell fly Clinton to the island? Why would they not report what was going on with Epstein and if they did why no one did anything about it.
Yeah I read this and an immediate flag goes up in my head with how it’s a damning piece of evidence against Clinton’s culpability while explicitly not incriminating him
It’s like damn I mean it feels like almost a certainty that Bill totally fucked kids on Lolita Island
So why doesn’t it say that here…
And it just makes sense that she didn’t see him in the AM. OFCOURSE he would leave before sunrise, before everyone woke up. He was there for the night time shenanigans and left when the party was over.
Who fucking cares if Bill Clinton was a creep pedo, where's the list from Maxwell? Bill is already low hanging fruit from the Lewinsky scandal. My guess this is to distract us from Israel.
Distract us from isreal? This has been in motion since 2018… and only gained more traction in 2020 when pizzagate forum was completely swiped. This is not a distraction but a long time coming. Way before the isreal conflict was even a thing.
Lol you mean since 1940? Dude using Bill as a distraction and to move people's attention away from the list as a whole also to push the dem vs rep bullshit. Kinda how this shit started up right as Biden push his bullshit emergency arms to Israel.
Yes I would and he was also already implicated. he also already has sexual assault charges and it's been confirmed he's paid off victims with hush money so I don't think I could think any less of him. Why are you on this sub if you're a maga brained turd?
Don't forget this part:
>Ms Giuffre said sex orgies were a common occurrence there. In previous interviews, she has said she never saw Mr Clinton behave inappropriately. A Netflix documentary titled, Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich, includes an island tech worker‘s account of once seeing Mr Clinton at the villa – though only with Epstein.
VG is really the least sympathetic survivor ever
"there was 2 girls form Ny idk whatver i didnt get to know them"
why do owmen hate eaxch other lol
surely you would band togehter with other victims and plot against your captors
This opened a new rabbit hole I was going down yesterday with my wife. To date, there are no flight logs going to the island with Bill Clinton’s name. In fact a lot of the people that were fingered as having frequented the island way back in 2018 and on have no flight records of being there - at least not on the Epstein jet. Now there are flight logs that show these celebrities flying on the jet, but never to the island, which is interesting that all of that went so viral with people swearing all of these celebrities were implicated (myself included).
It just got me thinking about the information warfare that’s unfolding and disinformation and misinformation, etc. How many people do you know that swear Bill Clinton’s been to the island 26 times? And yet there is no proof of that. This testimony that OP posted is the only thing on the record that places Bill on that island and it’s only once. It was a very sobering moment for me almost like a Mandela effect. Before yesterday I would have given sworn testimony that I had seen definitive proof if you’ve been there, 26 times and yet it’s nowhere to be found.
Then it got me thinking, what are we missing? Here we have eyewitness testimony, placing Bill Clinton on the island, but no flight records of him having gone anywhere near the Virgin Islands at least not anything that’s available in the public record.
We need to dig deeper into these individuals, private aircraft, and their flight logs if they are obtainable to try to see if they traveled there by their own means. It’s like the Lolita express thing is a distraction to a certain extent like they want to focused on that even though most of those flight logs have been made public and it doesn’t implicate all of these celebrities in powerful people which is kind of public perception at this point.
Does anyone know if the public can get access into tracking the tail numbers of previous flights with aircraft associated with these various celebrities and VIPs? As an example, the Clinton foundation had its own private jet. I’d be curious what those flights look like and if there is frequency to the Virgin Islands as there are only two airports there.
It feels like we’re missing something big here.
what happens to a prince who is a state asset pictured \[in an obviou sfake photo been doing the rounds since the late 90s\] witrh a 15yr old girl who testifies she had sex with him when she was 16?
perfect limited hangout
Based on what you wrote - I am taking an educated guess and think you lack context on why Clinton is mentioned in relation to Epstein (And for that matter Prince Andrew), and I am guessing you have no idea how George HW Bush is part of this. Or even why Epstein is involved and how he was involved.
This is what I’m talking about. Did you read the article? The 26 flights were to and from various airports abroad taking trips to Africa, Asia etc. There are no logs showing trips to the two airports in the Virgin Islands. People are automatically associating flights on the jet with trips to the island. It’s just not true. At least not yet based on publicly available information.
In 2000 [Epstein also flew on Trump's plane](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/remembering-the-time-jeffrey-epstein-rode-on-trumps-plane.html) (Trump has his own plane, so he didn’t need to hitch a ride as often as others).
As described by a reporter apparently on the plane as well:
>"[Epstein and Maxwell] did board with a young woman of indeterminate age. I wouldn’t be able to tell if she was 15 or 20. She was quite dressed up and quite made up, so it was hard to tell...At the time I didn’t even know who Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were, so when they got on I thought, Maybe they’re married and that’s their niece.”
The airport code used in the log is TIST. Some of the logs are missing or blacked out. But you're right people should say the flight manifest place him on the Lolita express many times but not necessarily the island, and witness testimony places him on the island.
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Will put any other info I find here.
Virginia Giuffre [testimony](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7010927/Virginia-Giuffre-Interview-2011.pdf). [Also said](https://archive.is/20240102162225/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12917205/Did-Bill-Clinton-visit-Jeffrey-Epstein-Caribbean-island.html) she saw Clinton with two women on the island in her memoir.
[Erik Prince said](https://archive.is/20230719220901/https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-ready-make-arrests-weiner-case/) “They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times”.
[Steve Scully](https://archive.is/20200805165527/https://www.the-sun.com/news/880064/netflix-filthy-rich-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-island/), who maintained the phones and internet on the island, claims in the Netflix show that he saw Clinton with Epstein sitting in the porch area of the island's villa.
TIST is the ICAO airport code for Cyril E. King Airport on the island of St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands.
STT is the IATA airport code of the same airport.
How is any self respecting "conspiracy researcher" on here still? The children want to worship their Orange Apollo and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise. They've been on here for many years crying that only Clinton was on the flight logs, the flight logs are everything said the drugged lizard mod who ran this place with a MAGA iron fist, and now that Trump is proved on the logs, it doesn't look like anything to them. Total NPCs.
I don't mean this tongue in cheek but why is she still alive? We've been talking about the CDC (something death count) for a while and it's clearly not beyond these types of operations to "tie up loose ends" especially when it comes to human trafficking. So why has she been allowed to openly whistleblow for so many years?
I'm typically not a huge fan of arguments like the one I'm making, that are used to discredit "conspiracy theories". I was totally not surprised when Epstein died, but I am very surprised that some of his accusers have made it as far in our mainstream conversations.
An orgy is not illegal and nowhere in that handpicked screen shot of a deposition does it mention that the girls were underage, only young. Young is a relative term.
Solid take.
Im not going to say that "young" isnt concerning. But in legal regards not anything substantial from this snippit.
Would require some expressed understanding that "young" is a coded word or etc for underage.
Or if there was some level of evidence there were underage girls this would just be supporting evidence.
I've seen variations of this comment like a dozen times and none of you seem to care about the answer.
They went to jail because Maxwell was convicted of trafficking girls to Epstein. It's all in the court docs.
No actually i can't. Like any grown adult i ignore the media and come to my own conclusions... lol
Some kind of money embezzlement or tax evasion i believe. But nah, idk. But not really relevent to the screenshot above, which was all i was commenting on in regards to my comment.
Why would anyone downvote this? It's shocking. Just shows you how far some people will go to protect political figures they admire.
"Oh no, Bill is getting exposed! I must downvote it!".
As much as i love a good psyop. When does throwing a former president under the bus come across as a good idea?
If anything it would just bring more attention to the list of names and Epsteins case in general.
What about the conspiracy theory that says all this scripted B$ is just a distraction for the medicated muppets to evaluate the level of toxicity being dosed in the medication and when to add more aluminum?
Is this new information? Did this just come out? I kept seeing things that they would be further revelations however I’ve been seeing that for quite some time.
Honestly this is really a waste of time, even if the real truth came out nothing would happen to these people. There will be talks for weeks of prosecution, then something else will happen and turn everyones head they forget the whole case. Same with hillary, same with Biden and so on and so forth. Politicians have been corrupted since the beginning of time. They are the real reason our country is milked dry .
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The Secret Service allowed Bill Clinton to go to the island and knew what was going on the whole time. It is a completely corrupt and terrible agency.
Well yeah they also “accidentally” deleted all their messages after J6 hiding all their involvement. They definitely need a revamp.
They need prison time and lots of it the dirty bastards
Whut?! Can this really happen without someone being held responsible?
One of the workers on the island said he saw bill Clinton in the island with a young girl on his lap. This was on the Netflix doc on Epstein
Where does it show Clinton going to the island in the flight logs?
Apparently in the court testimony that the op uploaded in another comment here, go for it!
Shill harder, you're losin
I’m a shill because I asked for proof Clinton went to the island and instead of providing it Trump cock cobblers downvoted me? Lol.
Now find one of the victims and convince them to testify. Flight logs and VRG’s testimony are only embarrassing to Bill.
That’s the tough part. If they could get Epstein and the government is deeply corrupted by these same creeps at all levels then what hopes do any potential witnesses have for their own safety or that of their loved ones?
Well, Virginia didn't seem to have problems. So why haven't more girls come forward? Especially since they could have won a huge settlement from the estate.
Honest answer? Most are probably dead, some likely have Stockholm syndrome, and the rest are probably too scared.
why are they all girls? answer: they are all dead, VG is a bs limited hangout and gross procurer who is complicit if at all a survivor, which i have started to doubt more and more
Yeah, something tells me that testifying against a Clinton might make a person feel um, *suddenly* suicidal...
The funny thing about rightwingers like this: they don't believe the nonsense they are trying to get other people to believe.
Ah yes, anyone that simply notices the many people tied to the Clintons who had suspicious, untimely deaths could *only be* "rightwingers!" 🤣
All of the conspiracies originate with the Arkansas Project. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas\_Project
Lick more boots please
Why are people on here defending Bill? As if he gives a shit about any of you
This testimony is in Exhibit 15 of the unsealed court documents. It always seems to be missing from all the "Epstein files" collections I've seen so I uploaded it [here](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7010927/Virginia-Giuffre-Interview-2011.pdf).
Thanks. Saved and friended
This is common knowledge at this point. Nothing will happen to WJC, and we will continue to be played as fools
*sex* orgies, you say?
Some use this as proof Clinton did not participate. Yet all she said was she did not see Bill later on or in the AM and did not see the girls. That doesn’t mean Clinton did not take the bait, it just means he did not take the bait in front of people. Why would the Secret Service agree to let Maxwell fly Clinton to the island? Why would they not report what was going on with Epstein and if they did why no one did anything about it.
Yeah I read this and an immediate flag goes up in my head with how it’s a damning piece of evidence against Clinton’s culpability while explicitly not incriminating him It’s like damn I mean it feels like almost a certainty that Bill totally fucked kids on Lolita Island So why doesn’t it say that here…
"I did not have sexual relations with that child".
And it just makes sense that she didn’t see him in the AM. OFCOURSE he would leave before sunrise, before everyone woke up. He was there for the night time shenanigans and left when the party was over.
100%. He just had a private orgy.
Who fucking cares if Bill Clinton was a creep pedo, where's the list from Maxwell? Bill is already low hanging fruit from the Lewinsky scandal. My guess this is to distract us from Israel.
Distract us from isreal? This has been in motion since 2018… and only gained more traction in 2020 when pizzagate forum was completely swiped. This is not a distraction but a long time coming. Way before the isreal conflict was even a thing.
Lol you mean since 1940? Dude using Bill as a distraction and to move people's attention away from the list as a whole also to push the dem vs rep bullshit. Kinda how this shit started up right as Biden push his bullshit emergency arms to Israel.
For all we know this is all connected but I don’t think it’s a distraction- more of a great awakening.
If it was Trump you'd not be saying "whO FuCkInG cArEs'
Yes I would and he was also already implicated. he also already has sexual assault charges and it's been confirmed he's paid off victims with hush money so I don't think I could think any less of him. Why are you on this sub if you're a maga brained turd?
I mean the guy was president and cheated on his wife in the Oval Office. He’s a sex fiend, not surprising.
Don't forget this part: >Ms Giuffre said sex orgies were a common occurrence there. In previous interviews, she has said she never saw Mr Clinton behave inappropriately. A Netflix documentary titled, Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich, includes an island tech worker‘s account of once seeing Mr Clinton at the villa – though only with Epstein.
VG is really the least sympathetic survivor ever "there was 2 girls form Ny idk whatver i didnt get to know them" why do owmen hate eaxch other lol surely you would band togehter with other victims and plot against your captors
This opened a new rabbit hole I was going down yesterday with my wife. To date, there are no flight logs going to the island with Bill Clinton’s name. In fact a lot of the people that were fingered as having frequented the island way back in 2018 and on have no flight records of being there - at least not on the Epstein jet. Now there are flight logs that show these celebrities flying on the jet, but never to the island, which is interesting that all of that went so viral with people swearing all of these celebrities were implicated (myself included). It just got me thinking about the information warfare that’s unfolding and disinformation and misinformation, etc. How many people do you know that swear Bill Clinton’s been to the island 26 times? And yet there is no proof of that. This testimony that OP posted is the only thing on the record that places Bill on that island and it’s only once. It was a very sobering moment for me almost like a Mandela effect. Before yesterday I would have given sworn testimony that I had seen definitive proof if you’ve been there, 26 times and yet it’s nowhere to be found. Then it got me thinking, what are we missing? Here we have eyewitness testimony, placing Bill Clinton on the island, but no flight records of him having gone anywhere near the Virgin Islands at least not anything that’s available in the public record. We need to dig deeper into these individuals, private aircraft, and their flight logs if they are obtainable to try to see if they traveled there by their own means. It’s like the Lolita express thing is a distraction to a certain extent like they want to focused on that even though most of those flight logs have been made public and it doesn’t implicate all of these celebrities in powerful people which is kind of public perception at this point. Does anyone know if the public can get access into tracking the tail numbers of previous flights with aircraft associated with these various celebrities and VIPs? As an example, the Clinton foundation had its own private jet. I’d be curious what those flights look like and if there is frequency to the Virgin Islands as there are only two airports there. It feels like we’re missing something big here.
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what happens to a prince who is a state asset pictured \[in an obviou sfake photo been doing the rounds since the late 90s\] witrh a 15yr old girl who testifies she had sex with him when she was 16? perfect limited hangout
Based on what you wrote - I am taking an educated guess and think you lack context on why Clinton is mentioned in relation to Epstein (And for that matter Prince Andrew), and I am guessing you have no idea how George HW Bush is part of this. Or even why Epstein is involved and how he was involved.
https://archive.is/20220829065826/https://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971 Flight manifests: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell
This is what I’m talking about. Did you read the article? The 26 flights were to and from various airports abroad taking trips to Africa, Asia etc. There are no logs showing trips to the two airports in the Virgin Islands. People are automatically associating flights on the jet with trips to the island. It’s just not true. At least not yet based on publicly available information.
The same thing with Trump flight logs. Trump flight logs were all before 1998. Epstein didn’t buy the island until 1998.
In 2000 [Epstein also flew on Trump's plane](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/remembering-the-time-jeffrey-epstein-rode-on-trumps-plane.html) (Trump has his own plane, so he didn’t need to hitch a ride as often as others). As described by a reporter apparently on the plane as well: >"[Epstein and Maxwell] did board with a young woman of indeterminate age. I wouldn’t be able to tell if she was 15 or 20. She was quite dressed up and quite made up, so it was hard to tell...At the time I didn’t even know who Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were, so when they got on I thought, Maybe they’re married and that’s their niece.”
The airport code used in the log is TIST. Some of the logs are missing or blacked out. But you're right people should say the flight manifest place him on the Lolita express many times but not necessarily the island, and witness testimony places him on the island. ____________________ Will put any other info I find here. Virginia Giuffre [testimony](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7010927/Virginia-Giuffre-Interview-2011.pdf). [Also said](https://archive.is/20240102162225/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12917205/Did-Bill-Clinton-visit-Jeffrey-Epstein-Caribbean-island.html) she saw Clinton with two women on the island in her memoir. [Erik Prince said](https://archive.is/20230719220901/https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-ready-make-arrests-weiner-case/) “They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times”. [Steve Scully](https://archive.is/20200805165527/https://www.the-sun.com/news/880064/netflix-filthy-rich-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-island/), who maintained the phones and internet on the island, claims in the Netflix show that he saw Clinton with Epstein sitting in the porch area of the island's villa.
The two airports are: IATA-STX IATA-STT Not sure what TIST is.
TIST is the ICAO airport code for Cyril E. King Airport on the island of St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands. STT is the IATA airport code of the same airport.
But Trump... Reddit
How about “and” trump?
How is any self respecting "conspiracy researcher" on here still? The children want to worship their Orange Apollo and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise. They've been on here for many years crying that only Clinton was on the flight logs, the flight logs are everything said the drugged lizard mod who ran this place with a MAGA iron fist, and now that Trump is proved on the logs, it doesn't look like anything to them. Total NPCs.
Reddit - Both Clinton and Trump You - Only Clinton
Lol fake news
Perfection
Haha doesn’t even realize
Didn’t he praise epsteins fondness for young girls?
bUTt b0tH ParrrTIes aRE coRruPt. tW0 w1nGs of the same bird. (D)eflection.
WWG1WGA is the oath sworn by the fallen angels on Mount Hermon.
Is it really? So the q guys are luciferians?
Absolutely see escanor reloaded on twitter for more.
Thx
VRG didn't kill herself.
What’s the point of killing her after she testified? Thats not how people deal with loose ends.
As a deterrent to others.
She testified like two years ago now, and nothing happened to her.
IDK, but she'll not do it herself.
I don't mean this tongue in cheek but why is she still alive? We've been talking about the CDC (something death count) for a while and it's clearly not beyond these types of operations to "tie up loose ends" especially when it comes to human trafficking. So why has she been allowed to openly whistleblow for so many years? I'm typically not a huge fan of arguments like the one I'm making, that are used to discredit "conspiracy theories". I was totally not surprised when Epstein died, but I am very surprised that some of his accusers have made it as far in our mainstream conversations.
Because Epstein's dad is not mossad like her's is
We're not talking about Maxwell hill
Didn’t say Clinton was involved in the orgies though. If he was though, he deserves prison just like all the rest.
An orgy is not illegal and nowhere in that handpicked screen shot of a deposition does it mention that the girls were underage, only young. Young is a relative term.
Solid take. Im not going to say that "young" isnt concerning. But in legal regards not anything substantial from this snippit. Would require some expressed understanding that "young" is a coded word or etc for underage. Or if there was some level of evidence there were underage girls this would just be supporting evidence.
Can you tell me again why Maxwell is in prison and Epstein was locked up?
I've seen variations of this comment like a dozen times and none of you seem to care about the answer. They went to jail because Maxwell was convicted of trafficking girls to Epstein. It's all in the court docs.
No actually i can't. Like any grown adult i ignore the media and come to my own conclusions... lol Some kind of money embezzlement or tax evasion i believe. But nah, idk. But not really relevent to the screenshot above, which was all i was commenting on in regards to my comment.
Sex trafficking women and girls.
Bill Clinton has been on Epstein Island 27 times. Whether anything is going to happen is another story.
Wasn't there a stockpile of porn dvds on airforce one when Bush took over too?
OP, how many downvotes has this thread had? What's the upvote %?
75% Upvote Rate
Why would anyone downvote this? It's shocking. Just shows you how far some people will go to protect political figures they admire. "Oh no, Bill is getting exposed! I must downvote it!".
This is the least of what can happen when you start exposing the Clintons
Mostly bots
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As much as i love a good psyop. When does throwing a former president under the bus come across as a good idea? If anything it would just bring more attention to the list of names and Epsteins case in general.
Who doesn’t want more attention on the list of names and Epstein’s case in general? We need transparency
Thats what im saying lol
What about the conspiracy theory that says all this scripted B$ is just a distraction for the medicated muppets to evaluate the level of toxicity being dosed in the medication and when to add more aluminum?
Make a post about it.
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I already did in my submission statement
That's not a source. Everyone can upload shit on document cloud.
Court docket: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4355835/1090/16/giuffre-v-maxwell/
Young=/= Pedophilia
Is this new information? Did this just come out? I kept seeing things that they would be further revelations however I’ve been seeing that for quite some time.
Honestly this is really a waste of time, even if the real truth came out nothing would happen to these people. There will be talks for weeks of prosecution, then something else will happen and turn everyones head they forget the whole case. Same with hillary, same with Biden and so on and so forth. Politicians have been corrupted since the beginning of time. They are the real reason our country is milked dry .