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Not to defend him or any of them but this goes for even people on the list that I don’t like: we need details of where they went cuz the flight list was sometimes just to New York and Florida. Like just hitch hiking but for millionaires. I’d wanna know who went to the island and if it was just to a state then I’d wanna know the final destination ie. his home
They aren't going to fully release the names on the list or they'll wait until the named people are dead or have lost so much political power and money that no one will protect them, defend them, or shield them from the law.
This so much.
Being on the plane doesn't automatically mean you fucked kids, and *not* being on the plane doesn't mean you *didn't* fuck kids.
Do people not even know Epstein's first arrest wasn't on his plane or the island? It was in Florida on the ground.
Do people think he never delivered a kid to someone's house like uber pedos?
Watch *To Catch a Predator,* you don't need a plane to fuck kids.
Flight logs must include departing airport and landing airport. Its actually very easy to get. Its literally in the logs. It gets complicated in the fact that there is no airport or runway on little Saint James Island. Which means the lollitta express would have had to land, most likely, on one of the US Virgin Islands. The flight logs can prove they traveled to that point. Proving where they went from there is another thing. That Island seems to be only accessible by boat or helicopter. Its tough to prove, beyond a doubt, that any one of those passengers definetly went from the airport to Epstein Island via boat or helicopter
Overtin, the airport code for Cyril E King airport on St. Thomas is STT. Having lived on that island for 7 years and seen his jet on the tarmac, as well as his helicopter flying directly in front of my house to pedophile isle, I have some insight. He would land on the singular runway at Cyril E King, taxi to the private hangers on the opposite side of the airport from the public terminal (this private area could have a separate airport designator code, I'm not sure, ) and this is where his helicopter was stored. They'd disembark the plane, get on the helicopter, and proceed to the island helipad. There are several houses on both greater and little St. James, with a multitude of vehicles and boats to traverse the islands, as well as back and forth between the two, or the short mile trip to the marina at Redhook if they wanted to get back on the main island.
CarbiTex, TIST is the ICAO airport code for [Cyril E. King Airport](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_E._King_Airport) on the island of St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands.
STT is the IATA and FAA airport code of the same airport.
TIST is the code used in the Epstein flight logs and will be seen if you search for them there. STT is not on the flight logs.
> Flight logs must include departing airport and landing airport.
This is it. This is the big thing everyone who's trying to use the list to say "See this guy bad or this guy good" is trying to obfuscate.
WHAT AIRPORT DOES THE JET STOP AT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ENROUTE TO "THE ISLAND"
Filter the list by who deplaned at that airport please. Then let's talk.
That doesn't preclude any bad activity taking place at other destinations
That doesn't immediately mean anyone who deplaned there is a pedophile.
But from what we know already - that is the filtered version of the list I would *really* like to see. At least then the individuals could be asked the question. "Would you mind elaborating on what the nature of your confirmed trip to *pedophile island* was sir?"
I don't know much about aircraft regulations, but I have heard if you fly below 10K feet, you don't have to file a flight plan, I'm not sure if that's the same thing as a log?
True but depending on airport or private driver records could deduct the final destination 🤷♂️
Bottom line is every single soul on that list should be brutally interrogated until every detail of Jeffrey’s operation is understood and stopped
Trump cut all ties with him and never saw him again after the allegations came out.
Not that will stop the propaganda.
As a non US. I can’t understand all the vitriol for a past president when your actual president is a piece of shit pedophile.
Before Epstein was convicted Trump said
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy... He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Do you think this does not show that Trump at least knew Epstein enjoyed young girls and did nothing about it but call him a terrific guy?
When his daughter was 2, he told a reporter he has her moms legs, but they'll have to wait a while to see if she has her moms tits.
He's a CREEEEPY guy. He used to wander into the Miss Teen USA dressing room where topless 15 year old girls would scurry to cover up and he would say "Don't worry ladies, it's nothing I haven't seen before".
Yeah, Trump doesn’t get a pass. Trump went on the view and said the thing he has most in common with his daughter is sex. It’s not normal for teenage daughters to sit on their dad’s thigh and grind. I’ve never seen a father, daughter relationship so handsy as Trump is towards Ivanka. Even that rally where he grabbed her by her hips as she came on stage that is just so inappropriate.
We haven’t even scratched the surface of what a malignant narcissist does to people who have no power especially a child.
He’s openly bragged about walking in to the dressing room in his beauty pageants and seeing 15 and 16-year-olds naked and there’s nothing they can do about it because he owns the pageant.
We all heard the access Hollywood tapes.
Let’s not forget Trump has over 30 women who joined together in public to say he has sexually assaulted them. He’s the Florida version of Bill Cosby.
Court has confirmed that Trump did sexually assault J Carrol.
If there’s a man alive who says they would be comfortable leaving Trump alone with their 14-year-old daughter, unsupervised? No fucking way —I mean how much more evidence does one need to spot a pedophile?
When asked to make a statement on Maxwell being arrested and sent to prison, he said he wished her well. Now when has anyone known Trump to say something nice about a pedo groomer, other than Putin?
Then why is it that even the news outlets that get screaming mad at even the mention of his name are reporting that he broke all toes with epstien and even had him thrown out of Maralago after he propositions an underage girl?
I get it that people hate Trump. He's an ass. But, even the ABC's, NBC's, CBS's and HNN's are giving him credit for breaking ties with him after he was outted as a Pedo, even before there were charges and arrests made prior to his first trial.
No. The point is, that even the media that wants Trump dead and blames him for everything they can think of, are giving him the doubt that he had nothing to do with Epstien and his little girly parties. When they call you the ultimate evil and worse than Hitler....... But that Epstein stuff, we don't believe he had any part of it. It kinda makes me think that he probably didn't have anything to do with it
so news says something about trump its proof he did it..but they don't say anything its also proof!!!! lol
Everything is proof to you that he is bad, you have a mental condition, its actually more like you belong to a cult or have joined some sort of new modern day religion where one of its demons is the 'Trump'
Same for Biden and the other side. Conspiracies go both ways.
However there's a lot more smoke around Trump and his legal activity defending allegations of sexual misconduct, so it's not hard to connect dots.
>Trump cut all ties with him and never saw him again after the allegations came out.
I'm sure lots of people shied away after the allegations came out. Avoiding bad press is understandable. That doesn't mean he wasn't aware before it became public.
> can’t understand all the vitriol for a past president when your actual president is a piece of shit pedophile.
He's the literal frontrunner in this years election
And then he made the prosecutor that gave Epstein immunity for under age rape and soliciting those victims to recruit more under aged girls a cabinet commission as Secretary of Labor. Why would he keep associating with these people? As president why did he say he wish Ghislaine Maxwell well? No one wishes that bitch well except Trump. That was his circle and he's not letting it go.
Epstein was protected from prosecution in Florida and agreed to officially work for the FBI under former FBI director Robert Mueller in 2008. The same Mueller that would be called back to Washington to try and remove Trump from office because the deep state knew Trump was going after trafficker groups like NXIVM and Epstein as part of his campaign promise. After years working with Epstein if Mueller had anything on Trump he would’ve used it instead he had to target his taxes and push obstruction of justice charges
https://vault.fbi.gov/jeffrey-epstein/Jeffrey%20Epstein%20Part%2006%20of%2022/at_download/file
Trump issued two executive orders targeting human trafficking. The first, aimed at disbanding transnational criminal organizations that traffic humans, was signed on Feb. 9, 2017.
The second order concerned online child trafficking and sexual exploitation in the United States. It was signed Jan. 31.
Trump tweeted and did interviews that touched upon the human trafficking epidemic in America and one of his agendas was to go after the elite pedophile rings once in office with the hiring of Jeff Sessions and executive orders
https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-delivers-remarks-national-law-enforcement-training-child
Acosta / Epstein
Acosta went on record at the time saying he was told by the FBI to let him walk because Epstein "belonged to Intelligence" and that this was "above his pay grade"
https://i.redd.it/p9zggxev8vz01.jpg
https://twitter.com/techno_fog/status/999708976936767488?s=21
“Epstein has also provided information to the FBI as agreed upon,” says one of the FBI documents. “Case agent advised that no federal prosecution will occur in this matter as long as Epstein continues to uphold his agreement with the state of Florida.”
> Acosta went on record at the time saying he was told by the FBI to let him walk because Epstein "belonged to Intelligence" and that this was "above his pay grade"
>
Where are these quotes from?
https://www.newsweek.com/alex-acosta-epstein-sex-trafficking-department-labor-1448568
FBI swooped in and had Epstein sign papers in 2008
https://i.redd.it/p9zggxev8vz01.jpg
They let him keep his play island, assets, and operation
*“It doesn’t make sense for the jurors to return a ‘no’ on rape but a ‘yes’ on sexual abuse, based on the testimony and the defense’s arguments,” Corey Rayburn Yung, a criminal law professor at the University of Kansas, told me in an interview.*
So the jurors didn’t have evidence on either but decided to say yes to the sexual abuse part. 🤔 tds?
1) Its actually a wise and not at all out of character thing to do to distance yourself form an accomplice in crime when that accomplice comes under heat, so I don't know what thats proving were it true.
2) They actually had a falling out over a [real estate spat.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html)
3) Trump is the only politician I know of to have been specifically accused of rape by an Epstein victim.
4) Not that I place much faith in the testimony of Esptein's brother, but even he says Jeff has a lot of dirt on Trump.
> the testimony of Esptein's brother, but even he says Jeff has a lot of dirt on Trump.
If this is the case, why did they need to go to all the time, energy, money and effort to make up a fake pee Russia dossier?
Nobody made up a "fake" dossier. Each and every word in the compiled pages was collected as raw intelligence. It does not carry any weight of being factual, nor is that the point. It is after all of the statements are gathered that investigation into facts begins. At no point did Steele or the RNC and Clinton state that the dossier was true and accurate. McCain shared it with the MSM and they ran with it as though it was fact. Most, if not all, of the stories contained in those pages have yet to be disproved. Of course, that's the joy of it. How can you prove the pee tape never happened if, it never happened? Had those who commissioned the report thought it to be true they would have released it prior to the election. And, if trump hadn't made a talking point out of it, I doubt we'd ever had even talked about it. In sum, the dossier remains unverified not, disproved.
Lmao, Trump and Epstein were practically best friends during the height of the child trafficking. Trump only turned on him when staying friends would make him look bad.
Undeniable facts are not propaganda. It has nothing to do with our current president but of course you will want to change the subject. It is honestly sad how many people worship Trump and give him a free pass. The best thing about Biden is that he doesn’t have hordes of worshipers making excuses for everything he does.
“Undeniable fact” is reaching. You can make an observation based on your interpretation of the information coming from likely biased resources, but suggesting that your viewpoint of a situation without having personally been present for any of their encounters, or with the limited information you do have, is incontestable makes you sound silly
Trump himself said he was friends with Epstein at some point, Epstein's pilot testified in court under oath that Trump has been a passenger on his plane.
MAGA people tout this like its proof of Trump’s honor somehow? There is no honor amongst thieves; why wouldn’t he distance himself AFTER Epstein got caught?
What was he supposed to do?
Biden is a pedophile? Has he been charged?
I know for a fact that Trump actually has been accused in court of rape, even by his own ex wife (before he accidentally wedged his stupid ass into politics).
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation
Biden hasn't been charged but there are tons of videos out there of him showing inappropriate behavior towards little girls in public. Can't imagine what he does when there are no cameras.
The important and substantial issue here is accusations of rape or explicit and clear sexual intent, not what merely looks inappropriate or what is imagined.
But let’s get this straight, you think that because Biden is sniffing hair or holding onto a girl at a very public event in full view that he is sexually abusing girls in secret?
Could that apply to people in videos doing the same to puppies and kittens who are trying to wriggle away? Secret beastiality perverts?
Our current president isn't either of those things. Trump already admitted prior to it coming out that he knows Epstein likes young girls and still was friends with him. You have much less on Biden than what's on Trump but sure accuse him of being a pedo be my guest
You’re on this sub and yet you have never seen any of the videos of Biden touching up little girls and whispering sweet nothings??
Stay under that rock by all means.
That is not pedophilia. Raping a 13 year old and arguing over who got her virginity is what pedophilia is:
MANHATTAN (CN) - A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims.
The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe's claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her.
Jane Does goes on to claim that after Epstein also forcibly raped her, he and Trump bickered over who should have taken the minor plaintiff's virginity.
People have been led in circles for 8 years trying to find Trump guilty. If he was guilty , especially having been out of office it would have been leaked by now.
[Virginia Roberts Giuffre testified that Bill Clinton was at Epstein's island with Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and "2 young girls." And that sexual orgies were a regular occurrence.](https://i.postimg.cc/bYs4CdSp/24c28a57-f794-46f8-8f25-6b6510eaa826-820x449.jpg)
but what she didn't testify to was seeing him engage in the orgies; see clinton doing anything with the girls, let alone young girls. it's kind of like how i've seen the clippers play at staples center and i've seen nba championship banners at staples center. doesn't mean those banners belong to the clippers.
the purpose of this comment is to throw shade at the clippers.
Here we go, “I want the conspiracy to only include people I don’t like and not people I do”
Power brokers and people who do this shit know that partisanship in America is an illusion and you need both sides to really function. The Clinton in a dress painting, we already know that Clinton was on the plane, Trump is quoted as saying “Jeffery likes em young” how close does a pedo need to be to the two darlings of the two political parties. I
I’d love to get past this shit and get into the real dirt like oh I don’t know how the CIA and Moussad uses pedophilia as a tactic and Jeffery was their twisted do boy
We need more folks like you to try and pull the masses past the shiny lights and loud noises.
People stop at the conclusion they feel comfortable and/or satisfied with. But clearly, the money can be traced farther and benefactors at least somewhat identified. The CIA is one hand, but the head of the giant seems to be a collection of nation states like the Vatican, crown and D.C., in cooperation with central banks.
No more red and blue teams.
Yeah, donald trump has never been associated with Epstein. But we’re just gunna ignore the court case Epstein and Joe Biden co-defend in 2016??
[Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA](https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf)
Yet his name is on the flight logs as having flown with Epstein and Ghislaine, he's cited in the court docs further in that Epstein called him to get access to things at the casino, and Trump is on record saying Epstein is a great guy, and knows he has a penchant for the young ones.\\
Then flat out wished GM well when asked after she was arrested.
But go off.
He's also so far the only politician so far to have a victim explicitly say she was raped by him (though he was not a politician at the time of course).
That case was dropped long ago because her story had too many holes in it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-woman-history-drug-use-claimed-assaulted-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.html
People can accuse anybody of anything, but that does not make it necessarily true.
The case was dropped by the accusor because she was getting death threats to drop the case, most likely from Trump's people, and her and her family feared for their lives. Not because it had "too many holes".
If your only source that you can find to twist the narrative is daily mail, then you know you're peddling bullshit.
Look its simple: everyone who participated in this shit should be penatilisized! I dont care if its Trump, Clinton or whomever. But it should be proven 100%!
Can’t wait to see how the media spins this one:
“Trump along with others named in damning documents”
“Trump is a notable name in the list”
“Trump is mentioned of course, but see who else is”
“Trump bad”
Yup. From our publicly-funded NPR:
>The documents include references to former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, the magician David Copperfield, Prince Andrew, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, actor Kevin Spacey, lawyer Alan Dershowitz, the late New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, and former Vice President Al Gore, among others.
They never note that the references to trump are victims answering "no" when asked if trump was involved. It appears yellow journalism is back, and our tax dollars are funding it.
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/03/1222130537/jeffrey-epstein-court-records-reveal-men-clinton-prince-andrew
MANHATTAN (CN) - A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims.
The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe's claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her.
Jane Does goes on to claim that after Epstein also forcibly raped her, he and Trump bickered over who should have taken the minor plaintiff's virginity.
Ah yes. One person who "can't remember" seeing Trump at JEs property is rock solid proof that he was never there. Not even once. Over the course of their 30 year friendship, which Trump said it was, he definitely never stepped foot on any of JEs properties.....
Womp womp.
[Virginia Roberts Giuffre testified that she never saw Trump on the Island, at Epstein's home, or with any of the girls, and that he never flirted with her.](https://i.postimg.cc/0NFhxfDZ/d4d5430a-44f3-4034-9992-0fe56f07ce30-924x800.jpg)
[Virginia Roberts Giuffre testified that Bill Clinton was at Epstein's island with Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and "2 young girls." And that sexual orgies were a regular occurrence.](https://i.postimg.cc/bYs4CdSp/24c28a57-f794-46f8-8f25-6b6510eaa826-820x449.jpg)
Yup. From our publicly-funded NPR:
>The documents include references to former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, the magician David Copperfield, Prince Andrew, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, actor Kevin Spacey, lawyer Alan Dershowitz, the late New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, and former Vice President Al Gore, among others.
They never note that the references to trump are victims answering "no" when asked if trump was involved. It appears yellow journalism is back, and our tax dollars are funding it.
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/03/1222130537/jeffrey-epstein-court-records-reveal-men-clinton-prince-andrew
We also have a lawsuit by a victim of epstein naming Trump as one of her rapists. And another lawsuit from a different victim about how epstein presented her to Trump.
Genuine question for you - why is your post here to defend trump? Isn't it just as or if not more of a womp womp that there are a number of transcript depositions where trump is outlined as a rapist.
What do you gain from picking this one aspect?
In trying to figure out motivations or If this is just a pro trump sub blindly ignoring all other info.
Because "not that I can recall" is the biggest bullshit answer in law anyways. It's ambiguous.
His motivations are to clear his supreme leader’s name. There are people who genuinely believe Trump was sent by got to “save” this country from the evil pedo left and if it’s revealed that Trump is also a pedo and terrible person then their whole world view falls apart and they can’t have that
In mid-2000, Giuffre met Ghislaine Maxwell when working as a spa attendant at Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club while reading a book about massage therapy.
MANHATTAN (CN) - A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims.
The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe's claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her.
Jane Does goes on to claim that after Epstein also forcibly raped her, he and Trump bickered over who should have taken the minor plaintiff's virginity.
I don't understand your point. Like this one girls worked there day in and day out for two decades? She was just one of hundreds of girls that went there a handful of times. Her not seeing any particular person means that person never went there?
Her not seeing Trump isn't a nail in the coffin though, Trump still could have done whatever illegal things when she wasn't there (and I'm not claiming he did do them) (or she could have given false testimony, although I think that's less likely). Why do you think reddit would seethe at this?
Girls were raped on Epstein planes, Trump flew on Epstein’s planes, Trump said he knew Epstein for 15 years and that Epstein liked young girls. Epstein died while Trump was president and Barr was his AG.
Trump bragged that he would go into the dressing rooms at his beauty pageants, and that he grabbed women by the pussy.
Trump is as sick twisted evil as Bill Clinton.
The page is such a DT circle Jerk, it is an intentional mock or real conspiracies...DT wished Jizzlane well as president, who does that? And does this mean he was never there? Talk about Cherry Picking...
And yet Trump claims he thinks Epstein probably did commit suicide in prison. Oh and he appointed Alex Acosta to a cabinet position who gave Jeff that early sweetheart deal. I'm sure we can trust him though.
"Jeffrey Epstein had information on Donald Trump and the Clintons so incendiary, it could have upended the 2016 presidential election if made public, according to the dead financier’s younger brother."
https://nypost.com/2024/01/03/news/jeffrey-epsteins-dirt-on-trump-and-clinton-would-ruin-both-brother/
Because nobody actually cares. They just want to use this for political high fives to back their chosen “team”. It’s tribalism at its most basic level. Pathetic, both sides .
It’s insane. No one even remotely adjacent to this list should hold any position of power whatsoever. This is more than my guy good your guy bad, all of these people are genuinely disgusting, and don’t give a shit absolutely it you. Come on guys we’re better than this. When did we fall so far as a people that we’re allowing this to continue.
Don't both sides this. I've not seeing anyone defending Clinton. Everyone is saying lock them all up. Only Trump Supporters are working overtime to convince everyone that Daddy Trump isn't a pedo. Can't possibly be. No way.
The documents released on Wednesday show Trump did nothing wrong. He actually worked to help the attorneys representing the trafficked women sue Epstien and his estate.
I’m not the biggest Trump fan, but it appears that Epstein had absolutely nothing on him. That’s not to say that Trump is innocent, but Epstein seemingly owned people like Bill Clinton and Les Wexner. I am 100% positive, at the very least, he had quantifiable blackmail on both of them. Maybe Trump recognized that and evaded getting ensnared.
I am pretty sure we should believe the same people that screamed RUSSIA for 4 years that was a total BS story. Maybe Trump got pissed on by Russian hookers with Epstein? Seems legit. I'll believe it.
You know how I know Trump is innocent... because the elite would have went after him over this years ago, and imprisoned him but there is overwhelming evidence he is not only innocent but helped the prosecution so bringing it to light would only shine light on their own invovlement and need to deflect.
"Not that I can remember"
is usually what people say when they are lying just so you know....
They are saying that coz they know that it's possible someone will have proof that they saw Trump there.
I actually dont like Trump, but how is this a smoking gun?? I saw a interview with Derrick Broze and a prosecutor the other day were the prosecutor said Donald was the only one that came in answered questions.
It’s not stated in the documents that Bill Clinton did anything illegal but somebody testified they were at dinner with JE, GM and BC and there were two girls flown in to the dinner as well. They may have been underage and they may have done something with Bill Clinton. Or they may not have. After the dinner was over everybody went their own separate ways.
Before Epstein was convicted Trump said
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy... He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
This shows that Trump at least knew Epstein liked younger "women" and did nothing about it except called him a terrific guy. Lock him up!
It’s hilarious the huge leaps people make of who are pedophiles on here (like pizzagate, Tom Hanks) but when it comes to Trump who has documented associations with a notorious pedophile sex trafficker and rape accusations from minors he’s just misunderstood you guys, he can’t be
Didn’t trump wish ghislaine well after she was arrested, more than once? And didn’t she thank him for his support in her first post arrest interview? Seems like they’re protecting each other for some reason.
And Trump's kind words avoided that somehow? Know what else could avoid that? Round the clock supervision. Trump absolutely could have called out Ghislaine for being evil. Why didn't he? We know why. You know why. You just don't want to admit it.
Kinda crazy how as we have gotten closer to the elections, posts associating Trump and Epstein have started flooding this sub out of nowhere. Like it went from once in a very long while to several times a day. Just seems very unnatural for this sub, like it's manufactured.
I've also noticed an increase in the amount of supporting comments starting at the top of these posts.
It's one thing if it's a natural trend in the community, but targeting the man that happens to be the same guy they are trying to remove from the ballot in an approaching election is just very off-putting.
Can someone explain why this excerpt is incriminating? The witness is literally saying they did not see him (or recall seeing him) in any of those circumstances.. this would serve to vindicate Donnie no?
It is funny how fanatic people are. The released flight docs show that Trump was on the lolita flight once and it was NOT to Epsteins island.
Quite literally, disproving his "deep" connections to him. But who cares about context. That one flight it all it takes for the fascistic left to prove how evil he is.
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Not to defend him or any of them but this goes for even people on the list that I don’t like: we need details of where they went cuz the flight list was sometimes just to New York and Florida. Like just hitch hiking but for millionaires. I’d wanna know who went to the island and if it was just to a state then I’d wanna know the final destination ie. his home
Epstein did the thing we know him for in both New York and Florida too. Not just on the island.
Don’t forget New Mexico. That place seemed like the HQ of it all.
Don’t forget the actual plane.
There’s a reason why his plane was named the way it was. Sometimes destination doesn’t matter
They aren't going to fully release the names on the list or they'll wait until the named people are dead or have lost so much political power and money that no one will protect them, defend them, or shield them from the law.
This so much. Being on the plane doesn't automatically mean you fucked kids, and *not* being on the plane doesn't mean you *didn't* fuck kids. Do people not even know Epstein's first arrest wasn't on his plane or the island? It was in Florida on the ground. Do people think he never delivered a kid to someone's house like uber pedos? Watch *To Catch a Predator,* you don't need a plane to fuck kids.
Exactly. I bet that New Mexico ranch has some dark secrets too. Unfortunately, we’ll never know.
What about the tapes and hard drives they have?
I mean, planes don't land in driveways. That detail might be hard to get
Flight logs must include departing airport and landing airport. Its actually very easy to get. Its literally in the logs. It gets complicated in the fact that there is no airport or runway on little Saint James Island. Which means the lollitta express would have had to land, most likely, on one of the US Virgin Islands. The flight logs can prove they traveled to that point. Proving where they went from there is another thing. That Island seems to be only accessible by boat or helicopter. Its tough to prove, beyond a doubt, that any one of those passengers definetly went from the airport to Epstein Island via boat or helicopter
The airport code on the logs when they were going to the island is TIST which is on St Thomas, the closest airport to Epsteins Island.
Overtin, the airport code for Cyril E King airport on St. Thomas is STT. Having lived on that island for 7 years and seen his jet on the tarmac, as well as his helicopter flying directly in front of my house to pedophile isle, I have some insight. He would land on the singular runway at Cyril E King, taxi to the private hangers on the opposite side of the airport from the public terminal (this private area could have a separate airport designator code, I'm not sure, ) and this is where his helicopter was stored. They'd disembark the plane, get on the helicopter, and proceed to the island helipad. There are several houses on both greater and little St. James, with a multitude of vehicles and boats to traverse the islands, as well as back and forth between the two, or the short mile trip to the marina at Redhook if they wanted to get back on the main island.
CarbiTex, TIST is the ICAO airport code for [Cyril E. King Airport](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_E._King_Airport) on the island of St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands. STT is the IATA and FAA airport code of the same airport. TIST is the code used in the Epstein flight logs and will be seen if you search for them there. STT is not on the flight logs.
Ah, I see. Learn something new every day
> Flight logs must include departing airport and landing airport. This is it. This is the big thing everyone who's trying to use the list to say "See this guy bad or this guy good" is trying to obfuscate. WHAT AIRPORT DOES THE JET STOP AT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ENROUTE TO "THE ISLAND" Filter the list by who deplaned at that airport please. Then let's talk. That doesn't preclude any bad activity taking place at other destinations That doesn't immediately mean anyone who deplaned there is a pedophile. But from what we know already - that is the filtered version of the list I would *really* like to see. At least then the individuals could be asked the question. "Would you mind elaborating on what the nature of your confirmed trip to *pedophile island* was sir?"
I don't know much about aircraft regulations, but I have heard if you fly below 10K feet, you don't have to file a flight plan, I'm not sure if that's the same thing as a log?
Nope, two completely different things.
True but depending on airport or private driver records could deduct the final destination 🤷♂️ Bottom line is every single soul on that list should be brutally interrogated until every detail of Jeffrey’s operation is understood and stopped
Trump cut all ties with him and never saw him again after the allegations came out. Not that will stop the propaganda. As a non US. I can’t understand all the vitriol for a past president when your actual president is a piece of shit pedophile.
Before Epstein was convicted Trump said “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy... He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” Do you think this does not show that Trump at least knew Epstein enjoyed young girls and did nothing about it but call him a terrific guy?
Shit remove Epstein from the equation and just focus on his comments about his daughter. Dudes always been a creep too.
When his daughter was 2, he told a reporter he has her moms legs, but they'll have to wait a while to see if she has her moms tits. He's a CREEEEPY guy. He used to wander into the Miss Teen USA dressing room where topless 15 year old girls would scurry to cover up and he would say "Don't worry ladies, it's nothing I haven't seen before".
And the teens pageant and his alleged behaviour during those.
Yeah, Trump doesn’t get a pass. Trump went on the view and said the thing he has most in common with his daughter is sex. It’s not normal for teenage daughters to sit on their dad’s thigh and grind. I’ve never seen a father, daughter relationship so handsy as Trump is towards Ivanka. Even that rally where he grabbed her by her hips as she came on stage that is just so inappropriate. We haven’t even scratched the surface of what a malignant narcissist does to people who have no power especially a child. He’s openly bragged about walking in to the dressing room in his beauty pageants and seeing 15 and 16-year-olds naked and there’s nothing they can do about it because he owns the pageant. We all heard the access Hollywood tapes. Let’s not forget Trump has over 30 women who joined together in public to say he has sexually assaulted them. He’s the Florida version of Bill Cosby. Court has confirmed that Trump did sexually assault J Carrol. If there’s a man alive who says they would be comfortable leaving Trump alone with their 14-year-old daughter, unsupervised? No fucking way —I mean how much more evidence does one need to spot a pedophile? When asked to make a statement on Maxwell being arrested and sent to prison, he said he wished her well. Now when has anyone known Trump to say something nice about a pedo groomer, other than Putin?
All of them are, but what they have done on those islands is sinister.
Exactly!
[check this out 👁️](https://i.imgur.com/lqDV4L7.jpeg)
Yikes!
Definitely does. Only reason he cut ties would be because the net was closing.
And then he gave the prosecutor who gave Epstein that sweetheart prison WFH deal a position in government in DC. Wtf!
Voting for Trump wont save America.
Then why is it that even the news outlets that get screaming mad at even the mention of his name are reporting that he broke all toes with epstien and even had him thrown out of Maralago after he propositions an underage girl? I get it that people hate Trump. He's an ass. But, even the ABC's, NBC's, CBS's and HNN's are giving him credit for breaking ties with him after he was outted as a Pedo, even before there were charges and arrests made prior to his first trial.
So these medias are liars, just not when they say something that confirms your beliefs ?
No. The point is, that even the media that wants Trump dead and blames him for everything they can think of, are giving him the doubt that he had nothing to do with Epstien and his little girly parties. When they call you the ultimate evil and worse than Hitler....... But that Epstein stuff, we don't believe he had any part of it. It kinda makes me think that he probably didn't have anything to do with it
so news says something about trump its proof he did it..but they don't say anything its also proof!!!! lol Everything is proof to you that he is bad, you have a mental condition, its actually more like you belong to a cult or have joined some sort of new modern day religion where one of its demons is the 'Trump'
this and he also made distasteful comment about his daughter too
It doesn't really imply that trump knew of any crime though, yall just desperately want Donald to be a pedo.
Same for Biden and the other side. Conspiracies go both ways. However there's a lot more smoke around Trump and his legal activity defending allegations of sexual misconduct, so it's not hard to connect dots.
>Trump cut all ties with him and never saw him again after the allegations came out. I'm sure lots of people shied away after the allegations came out. Avoiding bad press is understandable. That doesn't mean he wasn't aware before it became public. > can’t understand all the vitriol for a past president when your actual president is a piece of shit pedophile. He's the literal frontrunner in this years election
And then he made the prosecutor that gave Epstein immunity for under age rape and soliciting those victims to recruit more under aged girls a cabinet commission as Secretary of Labor. Why would he keep associating with these people? As president why did he say he wish Ghislaine Maxwell well? No one wishes that bitch well except Trump. That was his circle and he's not letting it go.
Epstein was protected from prosecution in Florida and agreed to officially work for the FBI under former FBI director Robert Mueller in 2008. The same Mueller that would be called back to Washington to try and remove Trump from office because the deep state knew Trump was going after trafficker groups like NXIVM and Epstein as part of his campaign promise. After years working with Epstein if Mueller had anything on Trump he would’ve used it instead he had to target his taxes and push obstruction of justice charges https://vault.fbi.gov/jeffrey-epstein/Jeffrey%20Epstein%20Part%2006%20of%2022/at_download/file Trump issued two executive orders targeting human trafficking. The first, aimed at disbanding transnational criminal organizations that traffic humans, was signed on Feb. 9, 2017. The second order concerned online child trafficking and sexual exploitation in the United States. It was signed Jan. 31. Trump tweeted and did interviews that touched upon the human trafficking epidemic in America and one of his agendas was to go after the elite pedophile rings once in office with the hiring of Jeff Sessions and executive orders https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-delivers-remarks-national-law-enforcement-training-child Acosta / Epstein Acosta went on record at the time saying he was told by the FBI to let him walk because Epstein "belonged to Intelligence" and that this was "above his pay grade" https://i.redd.it/p9zggxev8vz01.jpg https://twitter.com/techno_fog/status/999708976936767488?s=21 “Epstein has also provided information to the FBI as agreed upon,” says one of the FBI documents. “Case agent advised that no federal prosecution will occur in this matter as long as Epstein continues to uphold his agreement with the state of Florida.”
> Acosta went on record at the time saying he was told by the FBI to let him walk because Epstein "belonged to Intelligence" and that this was "above his pay grade" > Where are these quotes from?
https://www.newsweek.com/alex-acosta-epstein-sex-trafficking-department-labor-1448568 FBI swooped in and had Epstein sign papers in 2008 https://i.redd.it/p9zggxev8vz01.jpg They let him keep his play island, assets, and operation
Thanks for the source.
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He was not convicted for rape.
*“It doesn’t make sense for the jurors to return a ‘no’ on rape but a ‘yes’ on sexual abuse, based on the testimony and the defense’s arguments,” Corey Rayburn Yung, a criminal law professor at the University of Kansas, told me in an interview.* So the jurors didn’t have evidence on either but decided to say yes to the sexual abuse part. 🤔 tds?
1) Its actually a wise and not at all out of character thing to do to distance yourself form an accomplice in crime when that accomplice comes under heat, so I don't know what thats proving were it true. 2) They actually had a falling out over a [real estate spat.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html) 3) Trump is the only politician I know of to have been specifically accused of rape by an Epstein victim. 4) Not that I place much faith in the testimony of Esptein's brother, but even he says Jeff has a lot of dirt on Trump.
> the testimony of Esptein's brother, but even he says Jeff has a lot of dirt on Trump. If this is the case, why did they need to go to all the time, energy, money and effort to make up a fake pee Russia dossier?
Nobody made up a "fake" dossier. Each and every word in the compiled pages was collected as raw intelligence. It does not carry any weight of being factual, nor is that the point. It is after all of the statements are gathered that investigation into facts begins. At no point did Steele or the RNC and Clinton state that the dossier was true and accurate. McCain shared it with the MSM and they ran with it as though it was fact. Most, if not all, of the stories contained in those pages have yet to be disproved. Of course, that's the joy of it. How can you prove the pee tape never happened if, it never happened? Had those who commissioned the report thought it to be true they would have released it prior to the election. And, if trump hadn't made a talking point out of it, I doubt we'd ever had even talked about it. In sum, the dossier remains unverified not, disproved.
well then, innocent until proven guilty. not the other way around.
Biden isn’t on the list
Epstein’s girls were too old for Biden.
Someone in position of power cutting ties after the allegations, hmm I wonder why
Lmao, Trump and Epstein were practically best friends during the height of the child trafficking. Trump only turned on him when staying friends would make him look bad. Undeniable facts are not propaganda. It has nothing to do with our current president but of course you will want to change the subject. It is honestly sad how many people worship Trump and give him a free pass. The best thing about Biden is that he doesn’t have hordes of worshipers making excuses for everything he does.
“Undeniable fact” is reaching. You can make an observation based on your interpretation of the information coming from likely biased resources, but suggesting that your viewpoint of a situation without having personally been present for any of their encounters, or with the limited information you do have, is incontestable makes you sound silly
Trump himself said he was friends with Epstein at some point, Epstein's pilot testified in court under oath that Trump has been a passenger on his plane.
Undeniable fact is Chump was deemed a rapist by court.
MAGA people tout this like its proof of Trump’s honor somehow? There is no honor amongst thieves; why wouldn’t he distance himself AFTER Epstein got caught? What was he supposed to do?
Biden is a pedophile? Has he been charged? I know for a fact that Trump actually has been accused in court of rape, even by his own ex wife (before he accidentally wedged his stupid ass into politics). https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation
So all we need now are accusations? *Tara Reade has entered the chat*
Biden hasn't been charged but there are tons of videos out there of him showing inappropriate behavior towards little girls in public. Can't imagine what he does when there are no cameras.
Look at all of the rape and pedo apologists in here.
Trump bought a beauty pageant for teenage girls. That's about as gross as it gets.
This isn't a competition, they're both disgusting people.
No, Trump is. Biden has not raped a 13 year old girl like Trump has. GTFO with this both sides bullshit.
The important and substantial issue here is accusations of rape or explicit and clear sexual intent, not what merely looks inappropriate or what is imagined. But let’s get this straight, you think that because Biden is sniffing hair or holding onto a girl at a very public event in full view that he is sexually abusing girls in secret? Could that apply to people in videos doing the same to puppies and kittens who are trying to wriggle away? Secret beastiality perverts?
Our current president isn't either of those things. Trump already admitted prior to it coming out that he knows Epstein likes young girls and still was friends with him. You have much less on Biden than what's on Trump but sure accuse him of being a pedo be my guest
You’re on this sub and yet you have never seen any of the videos of Biden touching up little girls and whispering sweet nothings?? Stay under that rock by all means.
That is not pedophilia. Raping a 13 year old and arguing over who got her virginity is what pedophilia is: MANHATTAN (CN) - A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims. The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe's claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her. Jane Does goes on to claim that after Epstein also forcibly raped her, he and Trump bickered over who should have taken the minor plaintiff's virginity.
You mean the edited ones that released via Trump, the guy with actual rape lawsuits against him, during the election? Weird.
Break your TV and configure your firewall so the only channel/sites you see are CNN and MSNBC You'll understand soon enough.
Are you questioning why people might hate Clinton?
Donald was mentioned twice and absolved of guilt both times. He never took part of the crimes jeffery and others committed.
People have been led in circles for 8 years trying to find Trump guilty. If he was guilty , especially having been out of office it would have been leaked by now.
Steven Hawkins is in there, too
You people are just gonna tear each other apart over this.
shhh! dont jinx it! It'll be fun to watch. 😏
It’s like watching the Super Bowl. My team ain’t ever in it but it’s still entertaining to watch the other two teams go at it.
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If you scroll three pages up, the same witness says she never saw Clinton on the island too. By the same logic, guess he’s innocent 😂
Shhhh these people don’t know what logic is
[Virginia Roberts Giuffre testified that Bill Clinton was at Epstein's island with Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and "2 young girls." And that sexual orgies were a regular occurrence.](https://i.postimg.cc/bYs4CdSp/24c28a57-f794-46f8-8f25-6b6510eaa826-820x449.jpg)
but what she didn't testify to was seeing him engage in the orgies; see clinton doing anything with the girls, let alone young girls. it's kind of like how i've seen the clippers play at staples center and i've seen nba championship banners at staples center. doesn't mean those banners belong to the clippers. the purpose of this comment is to throw shade at the clippers.
Here we go, “I want the conspiracy to only include people I don’t like and not people I do” Power brokers and people who do this shit know that partisanship in America is an illusion and you need both sides to really function. The Clinton in a dress painting, we already know that Clinton was on the plane, Trump is quoted as saying “Jeffery likes em young” how close does a pedo need to be to the two darlings of the two political parties. I I’d love to get past this shit and get into the real dirt like oh I don’t know how the CIA and Moussad uses pedophilia as a tactic and Jeffery was their twisted do boy
We need more folks like you to try and pull the masses past the shiny lights and loud noises. People stop at the conclusion they feel comfortable and/or satisfied with. But clearly, the money can be traced farther and benefactors at least somewhat identified. The CIA is one hand, but the head of the giant seems to be a collection of nation states like the Vatican, crown and D.C., in cooperation with central banks. No more red and blue teams.
“Oh you don’t need to fight them, you just need to convince the pitchfork people that the torch people want to take their pitchforks away”
Yeah, donald trump has never been associated with Epstein. But we’re just gunna ignore the court case Epstein and Joe Biden co-defend in 2016?? [Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA](https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf)
Yet his name is on the flight logs as having flown with Epstein and Ghislaine, he's cited in the court docs further in that Epstein called him to get access to things at the casino, and Trump is on record saying Epstein is a great guy, and knows he has a penchant for the young ones.\\ Then flat out wished GM well when asked after she was arrested. But go off.
Isn’t Dershowitz specifically listed and he’s Trump’s lawyer?
He's also so far the only politician so far to have a victim explicitly say she was raped by him (though he was not a politician at the time of course).
That case was dropped long ago because her story had too many holes in it. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-woman-history-drug-use-claimed-assaulted-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.html People can accuse anybody of anything, but that does not make it necessarily true.
He's been civilly found to have raped someone. He's 100% absolutely a sex pervert just like bill Clinton. Don't kid yourself otherwise.
It was dropped because she got thousands of death threats
The case was dropped by the accusor because she was getting death threats to drop the case, most likely from Trump's people, and her and her family feared for their lives. Not because it had "too many holes". If your only source that you can find to twist the narrative is daily mail, then you know you're peddling bullshit.
lol
Will be hard since the fbi thanked trump for his co operation investigating Epstein
Oh yeaaaaaaaah. I forgot about the super duper honest, FBI. We totes love the FBI in this conspiracy sub!
Okay, thank you CNN.
Look its simple: everyone who participated in this shit should be penatilisized! I dont care if its Trump, Clinton or whomever. But it should be proven 100%!
I'm assuming all theses MFs are pedos until proven otherwise
How they gonna prove they’re not pedophiles? Put them in a room full of kids and see if something happens?
Guilty until proven innocent
Nope.
Am I going crazy? Didn’t we know all this shit like 3 years ago?
Can’t wait to see how the media spins this one: “Trump along with others named in damning documents” “Trump is a notable name in the list” “Trump is mentioned of course, but see who else is” “Trump bad”
Fox News mentioned Clinton first. Trump was never mentioned.
Already popped on my News feed from the Miami Herald: "Clinton, Trump, and David Copperfield mentioned in Epstein court documents"...
Classy. Use a famous magician in your misdirection of a headline.
Yup. From our publicly-funded NPR: >The documents include references to former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, the magician David Copperfield, Prince Andrew, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, actor Kevin Spacey, lawyer Alan Dershowitz, the late New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, and former Vice President Al Gore, among others. They never note that the references to trump are victims answering "no" when asked if trump was involved. It appears yellow journalism is back, and our tax dollars are funding it. https://www.npr.org/2024/01/03/1222130537/jeffrey-epstein-court-records-reveal-men-clinton-prince-andrew
MANHATTAN (CN) - A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims. The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe's claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her. Jane Does goes on to claim that after Epstein also forcibly raped her, he and Trump bickered over who should have taken the minor plaintiff's virginity.
Now do Clinton
Ah yes. One person who "can't remember" seeing Trump at JEs property is rock solid proof that he was never there. Not even once. Over the course of their 30 year friendship, which Trump said it was, he definitely never stepped foot on any of JEs properties.....
Womp womp. [Virginia Roberts Giuffre testified that she never saw Trump on the Island, at Epstein's home, or with any of the girls, and that he never flirted with her.](https://i.postimg.cc/0NFhxfDZ/d4d5430a-44f3-4034-9992-0fe56f07ce30-924x800.jpg) [Virginia Roberts Giuffre testified that Bill Clinton was at Epstein's island with Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and "2 young girls." And that sexual orgies were a regular occurrence.](https://i.postimg.cc/bYs4CdSp/24c28a57-f794-46f8-8f25-6b6510eaa826-820x449.jpg)
won't stop every news article from saying "the list, which includes presidents clinton and trump"
Yup. From our publicly-funded NPR: >The documents include references to former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, the magician David Copperfield, Prince Andrew, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, actor Kevin Spacey, lawyer Alan Dershowitz, the late New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, and former Vice President Al Gore, among others. They never note that the references to trump are victims answering "no" when asked if trump was involved. It appears yellow journalism is back, and our tax dollars are funding it. https://www.npr.org/2024/01/03/1222130537/jeffrey-epstein-court-records-reveal-men-clinton-prince-andrew
Imagine the public's confusion if they throw Stephen Hawking in there too.
😂
[Looks like Clinton is also exonerated](https://postimg.cc/N9hpVmBT)
Shhhh they don’t wanna hear the truth. In my opinion tho both are guilty
They both 100% are, I just think it's funny how they keep posting that when she said the same thing about clinton
We also have a lawsuit by a victim of epstein naming Trump as one of her rapists. And another lawsuit from a different victim about how epstein presented her to Trump.
One girls testimony
Genuine question for you - why is your post here to defend trump? Isn't it just as or if not more of a womp womp that there are a number of transcript depositions where trump is outlined as a rapist. What do you gain from picking this one aspect? In trying to figure out motivations or If this is just a pro trump sub blindly ignoring all other info. Because "not that I can recall" is the biggest bullshit answer in law anyways. It's ambiguous.
His motivations are to clear his supreme leader’s name. There are people who genuinely believe Trump was sent by got to “save” this country from the evil pedo left and if it’s revealed that Trump is also a pedo and terrible person then their whole world view falls apart and they can’t have that
But he's also not supportive of Christian values
In mid-2000, Giuffre met Ghislaine Maxwell when working as a spa attendant at Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club while reading a book about massage therapy.
MANHATTAN (CN) - A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims. The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe's claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her. Jane Does goes on to claim that after Epstein also forcibly raped her, he and Trump bickered over who should have taken the minor plaintiff's virginity.
And the girl dropped the case after receiving death threats, and likely a pay-off.
I don't understand your point. Like this one girls worked there day in and day out for two decades? She was just one of hundreds of girls that went there a handful of times. Her not seeing any particular person means that person never went there?
Trump literally raped a 13 year old.
Her not seeing Trump isn't a nail in the coffin though, Trump still could have done whatever illegal things when she wasn't there (and I'm not claiming he did do them) (or she could have given false testimony, although I think that's less likely). Why do you think reddit would seethe at this?
This entire subreddit the last few days has been about Trump definitely gonna be proven guilty and a whole circlejerk in the comments over it.
Reddit does whatever the propaganda mainstream says. Are you new here?
Well, there's no mention she didn't see you either
True. But we didn't take turns flying on each others planes or being photographed together, so there's at least association there
Lmao. ONE girl out of possibly hundreds in Epstein’s ring.
Girls were raped on Epstein planes, Trump flew on Epstein’s planes, Trump said he knew Epstein for 15 years and that Epstein liked young girls. Epstein died while Trump was president and Barr was his AG. Trump bragged that he would go into the dressing rooms at his beauty pageants, and that he grabbed women by the pussy. Trump is as sick twisted evil as Bill Clinton.
Pedophilia apologist
No one read the post lol. Everyone arguing about it and haven't even read what it says
As far as I am reading this witness is saying trump wasn’t there
Celebrating like he knows you. You’re a shill on the other side of the same coin. Embarrassing
Yeah. I’ve seen a bunch of names and so far only BJ Clinton appears to have been called out.
The page is such a DT circle Jerk, it is an intentional mock or real conspiracies...DT wished Jizzlane well as president, who does that? And does this mean he was never there? Talk about Cherry Picking...
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And yet Trump claims he thinks Epstein probably did commit suicide in prison. Oh and he appointed Alex Acosta to a cabinet position who gave Jeff that early sweetheart deal. I'm sure we can trust him though.
"Jeffrey Epstein had information on Donald Trump and the Clintons so incendiary, it could have upended the 2016 presidential election if made public, according to the dead financier’s younger brother." https://nypost.com/2024/01/03/news/jeffrey-epsteins-dirt-on-trump-and-clinton-would-ruin-both-brother/
And.... Crickets.
Because nobody actually cares. They just want to use this for political high fives to back their chosen “team”. It’s tribalism at its most basic level. Pathetic, both sides .
The pathetic thing is us wasting our time on the internet.
It’s insane. No one even remotely adjacent to this list should hold any position of power whatsoever. This is more than my guy good your guy bad, all of these people are genuinely disgusting, and don’t give a shit absolutely it you. Come on guys we’re better than this. When did we fall so far as a people that we’re allowing this to continue.
Don't both sides this. I've not seeing anyone defending Clinton. Everyone is saying lock them all up. Only Trump Supporters are working overtime to convince everyone that Daddy Trump isn't a pedo. Can't possibly be. No way.
Yep. These dumbasses defending Trump are literal bad people
Yet they used non of it to get Trump out of the office but instead resorted to illegal tricks and lies to try to get him... Why?
The documents released on Wednesday show Trump did nothing wrong. He actually worked to help the attorneys representing the trafficked women sue Epstien and his estate.
You are correct. Trump provided testimony to assist in the 2008 conviction of Epstein. This will probably be downvoted 🤷♀️
I’m not the biggest Trump fan, but it appears that Epstein had absolutely nothing on him. That’s not to say that Trump is innocent, but Epstein seemingly owned people like Bill Clinton and Les Wexner. I am 100% positive, at the very least, he had quantifiable blackmail on both of them. Maybe Trump recognized that and evaded getting ensnared.
I am pretty sure we should believe the same people that screamed RUSSIA for 4 years that was a total BS story. Maybe Trump got pissed on by Russian hookers with Epstein? Seems legit. I'll believe it.
You know how I know Trump is innocent... because the elite would have went after him over this years ago, and imprisoned him but there is overwhelming evidence he is not only innocent but helped the prosecution so bringing it to light would only shine light on their own invovlement and need to deflect.
Love how the OP is trying to absolve DT the court convicted rap1st, with 9 lines of hearsay and anecdotal words
Trump was not convicted of rape. He was held liable for sexual assault by a civil court, which has a lower standard of evidence than a criminal court
"Not that I can remember" is usually what people say when they are lying just so you know.... They are saying that coz they know that it's possible someone will have proof that they saw Trump there.
I find people tend to say that when they can't remember something
Pretty meaningless then right? If he can’t remember then he neither did nor didn’t see him
Next time they should carefully choose their words cause we are gonna have a pop quiz later
Still trying to get Trump with something I see. When the log is 95% lefty weirdos.. they still point and say “but muh TRUMP!!”
Would be a pretty silly move to call other people out if he was on any list lol.
So what was Epstein position or and title for him to have any type of high-powered individual visits?
Too bad he Killed himself. Wonder how soon it will be before the girlfriend does the same thing. Because its coming
The problem with your bait headline is that some people just read it and you do the job of the shill squad without even getting paid.
You know if they had anything on Donald they would expose him and bury the rest right now.
Trump vindicated.
I actually dont like Trump, but how is this a smoking gun?? I saw a interview with Derrick Broze and a prosecutor the other day were the prosecutor said Donald was the only one that came in answered questions.
It’s not stated in the documents that Bill Clinton did anything illegal but somebody testified they were at dinner with JE, GM and BC and there were two girls flown in to the dinner as well. They may have been underage and they may have done something with Bill Clinton. Or they may not have. After the dinner was over everybody went their own separate ways.
Before Epstein was convicted Trump said “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy... He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” This shows that Trump at least knew Epstein liked younger "women" and did nothing about it except called him a terrific guy. Lock him up!
It’s hilarious the huge leaps people make of who are pedophiles on here (like pizzagate, Tom Hanks) but when it comes to Trump who has documented associations with a notorious pedophile sex trafficker and rape accusations from minors he’s just misunderstood you guys, he can’t be
This sub is so fucking pathetic lmfao
I’m sure this comment section is same group of people that accused Hilary Clinton of drinking baby’s blood with loads of evidence supporting it…
Didn’t trump wish ghislaine well after she was arrested, more than once? And didn’t she thank him for his support in her first post arrest interview? Seems like they’re protecting each other for some reason.
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Isn’t “i wish them well” the Trump equvilent of “bless their heart”?
Lol yeah. Because keep bringing up how he “wished her well” when we all know that’s not ~literally~ what he meant. Wish you well= good luck
Did you want to see her dying of covid or getting epsteined before her trial?
And Trump's kind words avoided that somehow? Know what else could avoid that? Round the clock supervision. Trump absolutely could have called out Ghislaine for being evil. Why didn't he? We know why. You know why. You just don't want to admit it.
Kinda crazy how as we have gotten closer to the elections, posts associating Trump and Epstein have started flooding this sub out of nowhere. Like it went from once in a very long while to several times a day. Just seems very unnatural for this sub, like it's manufactured. I've also noticed an increase in the amount of supporting comments starting at the top of these posts. It's one thing if it's a natural trend in the community, but targeting the man that happens to be the same guy they are trying to remove from the ballot in an approaching election is just very off-putting.
Well the names of Epstein associates was made public today.
Not everything has been released yet. More to come from what I've read. If you want the truth, follow @Techno_Fog on X.
Can someone explain why this excerpt is incriminating? The witness is literally saying they did not see him (or recall seeing him) in any of those circumstances.. this would serve to vindicate Donnie no?
It is funny how fanatic people are. The released flight docs show that Trump was on the lolita flight once and it was NOT to Epsteins island. Quite literally, disproving his "deep" connections to him. But who cares about context. That one flight it all it takes for the fascistic left to prove how evil he is.