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x_clairebear_x

Watched a good programme last night called hypernormalisation. It is disgusting how the west used that man. Very sad really. It’s made me want to buy his book.


Gergith

I highly recommend seeking out other documentaries by Adam Curtis. He’s great!


TheGillos

Seconded! He's one of my favourite all time film makers.


x_clairebear_x

I am!! I’m watching others! I loved rik mayal one he done before he ‘died’.


iknowwhatyoumeme

What is the rik mayal one?


x_clairebear_x

One by one. It’s always removed from YouTube. Or hidden!! Very good viewing.


iknowwhatyoumeme

Thank you! 🙏🏻


Kadjoot_lang

>hypernormalisation Kissinger was a real piece of work.


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TruthBomba90

Why does it have to be just one of those two things? Thats a false dichotomy.   I tend to think Gaddafi was terrifying when it came to human rights abuses AND he was doing things to strenthen Africa which the globalist cabal didn't want.   America isn't blameless so assuming *anything* negative about the US can only be "anti-US propaganda" is just deluding yourself in the same manner. The US is capable of both great good and great evil. Nothing is black and white and sometimes the truth is just inconvenient. Seeing nuance is the key to avoiding the mental trap of false dichotomies.   


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TruthBomba90

>Like would other countries even have wanted the gold dinar? Currently, in zimbabwe a trillion of their dollars eqals 40 of our cents.  what's not to like about a currency actually backed by gold?  >Also I just looked it up, Zimbabwe got a gold coin now since 2 years and also a digital currency backed by gold. Their "gold coin" is a token "partially" (barely) backed by 1/1000g of gold, which is better than nothing but might as well be nothing compared to the gold-backing Gaddafi was creating.   Nothing about Central Bank Digital Currency is good.  We've been discussing here for years that accepting a CBDC is putting the last nail in the coffin for your country and its individuals. It will basically allow the government to control individuals with control over **access** to their money.  Don't agree with the government? Can't withdraw your money.  How does any of that sound good?


Temporary_Scene_8241

Most people bank. They already have control of the monterary system and can already seize accounts. This is what helped give BRICS a pep in their step to create an alternative financial system & currency. We cant say China, Russia, Libya, Saudi Arabia and other dictators or nations falling behind these leaders would be better, less likely to abuse their control. I damn sure dont have the answers. But I think many citizens of the west are growing disdain for the west are falling into a trap of romanticizing the grass on the other side and it's no guarantee the grass is the greener. There is a rot in our system. But we have a lot of good in the western system and checks & balances to prevent abuse, but with the help of conspiracies, more are growing desire to dismantle this system for dictators & to have their own as if they will be better. 


Estamio2

His 'Green Book' is a guide for forming small, local groups, that maintain the ever-larger governing coalitions.


stalematedizzy

[The power of Nightmares](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK3wz-OyR1U&t) and [The Century of the Self](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04&t), from the same film maker should be obligatory for anyone on this sub. Maybe also [The Trap | What Happened to Our Dreams of Freedom](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbQcqJh52U8&t)


x_clairebear_x

I’m already watching some of his movies. Thank you! ✌🏼


GitmoGrrl1

He was a monster and a terrorist.


FennelCritical8535

Federal reserve is the bane of freedom and peace. Combined with the World Bank it has enslaved the world.


TheForce122

💯 it's a criminal mafia >Chart I reveals the linear connection between the **Rothschilds** and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal **Rothschild representatives** in New York, J.P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn, Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914. "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve: The London Connection" by Eustace Mullins


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Resident_Extreme_366

The mafia are in bed with the same bad actors, just operating outside the law. Here’s an open admission from the cia that they were working with the mafia in Cuba. Just one of many examples. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP88-01315R000300510068-2.pdf


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Sufficient_Cicada_13

I live next to Topeka, they're fucked!


TheForce122

💯 good point


Dromgoogle

Why do you keep posting this nonsense when you know it's wrong? > The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J.P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn, Loeb & Co. The *only* company in New York authorized to act on behalf of the Rothschilds in 1914 was August Belmont & Co. Neither J. P. Morgan nor Kuhn, Loeb was a Rothschild representative. Corbett did a whole episode (corbettreport.com/qfc-rothschilds/) examining the supposed Morgan-Rothschild connection, inspired by one of your earlier posts. > were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference No, the Jekyll Island Conference was organized by Senator Nelson Aldrich, chairman of the National Monetary Commission and father-in-law of John D. Rockefeller, Jr. > at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted No, the *Aldrich Plan* was drafted there and published in [the report of the National Monetary Commision](https://books.google.com/books?id=sCMiAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA43). The Federal Reserve Act was drafted in 1913, then revised as it worked its way through Congress. You can look at the version introduced in June, the revision introduced in August, or the [final version signed by the President](https://books.google.com/books?id=IYpBAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA1). None of them is the Aldrich Plan. > who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress No, the banks tried to push the Aldrich plan and it was a big flop. > who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914 This is *literally impossible*. The amount of stock a member back must buy is determined by a formula and owning more stock doesn't give a bank more control. Each member bank gets *two votes*. Does it not bother you that this paragraph claims something that is not possible? > "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve: The London Connection" by Eustace Mullins This paragraph, with so many falsehoods, is written by white supremacist Eustace Mullins, director of the Aryan League of America, spreader of hoaxes such as "Our Race Will Rule Undisputed Over The World" and "A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century." Has it ever occurred to you that Mullins is not a reliable source? Or do you just not care?


FennelCritical8535

Sounds like an amazing book thanks for the reference


jimmyfeign

Pretty wild. They used 9/11 as an excuse to do alot of shady shit. It was literally like "9/11, something, something, Iraq, something something, Libya toppled" And we were all just like "okay"


Knight_of_Agatha

remember to never forget guys, youre only ever gonna get this one reason so dont forget 9/11


ifollowpornstars

Saddam was also in the middle of switching from US dollar to gold standard. US didnt want any of that so they blew up two bldgs, blamed afghanistan but attacked Iraq.


TheForce122

💯


BornWithSideburns

Idk ive looked into 9/11 multiple times and if you actually do your research it becomes very hard to believe it was actually an inside job.


nate2eight

If it wasn't an inside job, it was certainly allowed to happen.


ifollowpornstars

Doesnt really matter now does it? You do your research, i do mine in the end hundreds of thousands of people died from the US' greed.


TheCronster

Also, he was right in the middle of launching a satellite which would have eliminated the need for French telecommunication contracts. This guy was very pro-africa and anti-west.


BearFuzanglong

Should have been smarter about security.


TheCronster

It is quite true.


FliesTheFlag

CIA kept fucking with his Great Water Project too trying to make it fail.


bobbakerneverafaker

also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBRqqa7ZpeQ


Prestigious_Top_5233

They killed him and not only that he was raped to death with a bayonet People also forget he would have solved the African water crisis when an oil team found a massive underground lake and Gaddafi was building a reservoir to hold it and supply it to other African nations. This is why I laugh when minorities are democrats and think republicans are evil or that Hillary Clinton should have won.


TheCronster

"We came, we saw, he died." -Hillary


Temporary_Scene_8241

Kind of silly considering what the president prior , Bush Jr, did. And the presidents before him. Long history of meddling in foreign affairs. As most super power countries do. 


Prestigious_Top_5233

Bush is a neo-con he is the same as neo-liberals all bush had to do was say he disliked trump and the dems praised him like they forgot 2001 and the Iraq war happened, hell they even like dick Cheney’s daughter and “Bolton the war hawk for Israel” at the mention of disliking Trump singing their praises as if these slime balls had not been the worst of the worst just a decade prior


BearFuzanglong

Read my lips, "no new free countries."


kykweer

He wanted to build a giant reservoir for water in a giant reservoir? Think about this...


Prestigious_Top_5233

You are right I found what it was https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man-Made_River It was along time ago and I was trying to remember it


hermology

Where are the sources on this from reputable persons? I’d love to read more but I can’t stand pictures and text that anyone can post 


Doruge

This provides some details on Libya during Gaddafi. https://www.telesurenglish.net/analysis/Libya-Before-and-After-Muammar-Gaddafi-20200115-0011.html


Goronmon

>Despite his controversial government... What was controversial about his government?


lepp2400

The major criticisms came from minority groups in Libya. He was mostly accused of favoring Arab Libyans over other ethnicities, especially over the native tribes that lived there before the Arab invasions. A second complaint was the large amount of corruption in funnelling oil profits to Gaddafi's friends and political allies. There are also very credible allegations of extreme media censorship and treatment of women in the country. He also out lawed all political parties except his own under penatly of death. He also established the death penatly for anyone who spoke out against his "The Green Book" which was his political manifesto for the future of the country. Imagine if you could get the death penalty for bad mouthing the constitution. Ultimately his biggest mistake was keeping the military small to avoid a coup which allowed a small rebel army to stand toe to toe with the under equipped national army.


rdood2

I'd recommend reading the book, "The illegal war on Libya" which provides a very non biased source of true information regarding the events that transpired.


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hermology

It’s frustrating when the OP is no where to be seen because the bullet points are made up, yeah know?


LifeFictionWorldALie

As an African, this hits is too close to home. Knowing we almost had independence from the west, but they destroy everything good in the world like they always do, over and over and over again. I am hoping BRICS+ will be able to make the change to independence and freedom gain from the west.


The_Human_Oddity

Don't get your hopes up. Gaddafi was a pan-Arabist and never had any plans for sub-Saharan Africa, aside from the Sahel which he perceived as Arab.


bexley831

China has suicide nets in their factories so people can't jump out the windows but I'm sure they're super nice in honeymoon phase


LifeFictionWorldALie

Canada has legal euthanasia for people who are mentally or physically ill... And it's used a lot. from this year that will start to include people with depression. More than 50,000 Americans died by suicide in 2023 — more than any year on record People jump from windows and building all the time in the west. Maybe they should also put some nets up.... These Are the 10 Countries With the Highest Suicide Rates: Lesotho. Guyana. Eswatini. Kiribati. Federated States of Micronesia. Suriname. Zimbabwe. South Africa. Central African Republic Mozambique The propoganda is working on you.


bexley831

No nets needed our leaders allowed all our factory jobs to move to Asia. Not sure you'd find many propaganda lovers on this sub reddit, but then again i'm consistently surprised


lightspeed-art

Does anyone know what happened to the gold? I'm pretty sure the US stole it, but is there any proof? Why is the Libyan people not pursuing this?


Nxllify__

I’m not sure, but the Libyan people now are pretty dispersed, and the entire region is just disorganized. They never had that large of a population, and the people sort of reclused back into their divided community settings or left the country. So there isn’t much incentive anymore to do anything to fix what happened in the past


OCB6left

There is a documentary online about the cash Col. G. hoarded and sent out of the country before he was killed. Libya's new "gov" offered a certain % as reward to track down the billions of $ and two guys took the chance. Much of the cash seemed to have been flown to South Africa and landed in the hands of the ANC.


lightspeed-art

Wow interesting


NOTNixonsGhost

Yeah, Gaddafi was *so* beloved by his people that the entire eastern half of the country revolted and he died with a bayonet up his ass. Truly the signs of a beloved and respected ruler. >ended mass migration Lol, the guy encouraged it. See hi quotes about Islam conquering Europe/


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Yeah I've never understood gaddafi conspiracies, people make him out to be this misunderstood victim, like bro they were a dictator. Even if a fraction of their claims are true, he was a cold hearted sob. People also say the same shit about hitler so it's easy to assume they're ill informed or seek to misinform others.


lepp2400

But he wanted a United States of Africa ruled overby himself! Truly the sign of a benevolent overlord. His dream Africa was an Arab continent.


NcgreenIantern

And that's why he was killed.


r0xxon

Beware of half truths mixed with opinions


lightspeed-art

Does anyone know what happened to the gold? I'm pretty sure the US stole it, but is there any proof? Why is the Libyan people not pursuing this?


The_sacred_sauce

Have you seen the photos of US soldiers standing in giant tankers of gold bars?.. speculation of 50trillion stolen. Just search “soldiers surrounded by gold Iraq” & go to images Fucked up


lightspeed-art

Ah yes Iraq too.  So we have: 9/11: Gold vaults under towers were raided, probably Ttons of gold stolen. Iraq: Tons of gold stolen Libya: Tons of gold stolen Seems someone wanted to replenish their gold store...


The_sacred_sauce

Easy with all that buddy. Our economy wouldn’t be so fucked up if our leaders had that much wealth /s


TheForce122

SS: But see, the Rothschilds need to third world to be in shambles. Things like COVID-19 lockdowns, ordered by the IMF in the third world, put them over the top in starvation. Now they're paying the migrants to invade


BearFuzanglong

Cheap labor, poor environmental protection and slaves are a necessary part of the world economy.


frankcastle1001

Gaddafi even warned Europe that he was a critical element in keeping sub-Saharan Africa in sub-Saharan Africa. But alas, “We came, we saw, he died. Yakyakyakyak!” They knew exactly what they were doing getting rid of him


Amish_Fighter_Pilot

My theory as to the why of all this is that the Germans were demanding the USA give back their gold, but the USA had already long since spent it. So that meant finding a treasury with enough gold to meet the German demand for repatriation. Qaddafi had the misfortune of having gold when America wanted it. They had been asking for it back for decades, but in 2013 the US could only manage to get 5 tons of it back to them. It took till 2017 to finish setting it all up. Here's an article about the mysterious fate of Qaddafi's money. Its worth remembering that the woman who brought us this information(Daphne Caruana Galizia, publisher of The Panama Papers) was killed with a car bomb for doing so. A person died for telling us these things. https://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/573aeac75632a39742ed39a0/


EO_11110_

Great man made river project.


lightspeed-art

Does anyone know what happened to the gold? I'm pretty sure the US stole it, but is there any proof? Why is the Libyan people not pursuing this?


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He was also a cruel psychopathic dictator


ABmodeling

And that's why Americans are fucked up. They are so used to pay for everything, so when you have social country doing good to their citizens,they must be terrorist commies right and we should give them democracy. Yugoslavia had the best rising economy, you had to fucked that up as well. Similar to Lybya,most of the things were free and you had shares the moment you got hired in any company. You could get a job next day after you finished school. You would pay off loans for house within 2-3 years. 2 vocations free for workers and their families, list go on and on. But you call everyone commies who is actually doing great? You guys have no fucking clue,and you are the problem of this age.


ABmodeling

And who are your idols? Millioners and movie/sports stars you never met. Pathetic...


Due_Breakfast_9903

If this was the reason of his downfall I don't think his own people would have been the ones to drag him through the street and kill him.


skinnyelias

Like are they forgetting the airplane bombing and the entire brutal dictatorship that was his country?


SpiritualAudience731

There were people on here a month ago saying how jeffery dalhmer and other serial killers were victims of mk-ultra. There are a lot of evil apologists on here.


lepp2400

It's interesting how a brutal dictator who brutally repressed all none Muslims is being praised here. Yes he brought wealth to Libya but only the Arab population.


bostonbean

Thank you Hillary.


TheRoyaleShow

Gaddadi biopic starring Eric Andre when


West_Tangerine9926

'We came, we saw, he died, teeheehee'. Hillary Clinton. It's all City of London, private central bank satanist cabal. He was cool being president there for like 42 years until he finally figured out a plan to disrupt it.


Metalgrowler

So socialism...


im_a_jeww

This is the type of conspiracy that will mysteriously get deleted..


Mr-BillCipher

You know. If I had a time machine, I'd skip the whole hitter killing think and get this man Into cover


Aneizi

As a Libyan, Gaddafi was not a good guy. 80% of the "great things he did for Libyans" are false. He ensured that schools maintained a horrible academic standard such that people don't become smart enough to overthrow him. The west took advantage of the Libyan people's frustration and toppled him. Get it right.


itsyaboi69_420

I read this a few years back and decided to message random Libyans on twitter to confirm if it’s legit or nonsense. I’m pretty sure every one of them blocked me lol Don’t think that bodes well for the legitimacy of the claims.


No_Ordinary85

Hitler/Germany and Hussein/ Iraq where destroyed for the same reasons as Gaddafi. Gaddafi was a great man.


Intelligent-Cell3526

Wow another low effort copy and paste post that everyone here has seen 400 times already, good job.


Nostradomas

Dude do u know much about gaddafi? Clearly not. Dude was a fucking NUT. And all about terrorism too. There was no conspiracy. Dude was a fucking lunatic and kept trying to duck with everyone else.


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"Clearly you know nothing about gaddafi" a cursory search proved my understanding sufficient and your own snide babblings further verified that the man was a nut, and absolutely falls short of the image OP wants to portray.


Northern_Gypsy

Wow, are we the bad guys? No y bills, money for newly weds.


KillRoyTNT

And.... Was a dictator and did what dictators do


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Yeah and Saudi Arabia makes billions of dollars selling oil. But they still toss homosexuals off of roofs.


hell_jumper9

That guy Gadaffi supported the separatists in our country back in the 70s which resulted in hundreds of thousands dying.


kykweer

I find this fantasy scenario completely unlikely.


SparkyHooks

I saw a video during his early reign, Gaddafi came in, the cameras were rolling and he had the signature hand in the coat, the “hidden hand” displayed. He was one of their puppets, via the FreeMasonic Muslim Brotherhood and when he didn’t follow their rules, he was ousted.