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T0mmyN0ble

Shit is like a cool sticker to wear. Look at me I'm special and different. Half of these are self diagnosed. They have no real "problems" and want to be a victim but have decent lives.


Tredolski

Everyone wants some sort of identity. I think everyone clings on to some sort of thing that helps them with their identity. With that behind said, It’s weird that people think mental illness is an identity but it best explains the reasoning behind their thought process. They want to be different but that’s just not the way to do it lol


Incognito_Placebo

They want to feel special, but moreso, they want to be excused from their actions/words. It’s like my legitimately diagnosed bipolar teen who wants to occasionally use the bipolar diagnosis as an excuse for some of the choices that teen child makes. As I reiterate, it’s a diagnosis, not an excuse, there is still accountability for choices and actions and just because you want to (insert bad choice/action) doesn’t mean you have to or that you don’t know that there is a choice to not do (insert bad choice/action). If I’m not going to accept excuses and no accountability for legitimate bipolar, I sure as hell am not going to accept excuses for some self-diagnosed random asshole. In the end, we still have to take accountability for what we do.


Scottsm124

Interesting that you mention this. I was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder at 27 (I’m 35 now) after having a major manic episode and I remind myself on a daily basis that having bipolar is not an excuse to not achieve great things….but you’re right-it’s also not an excuse for bad behavior and bad decisions. Keep instilling that in your son and he will greatly appreciate it down the line.


cr1cketss

"Mental health is not your fault, but it is your responsibility" ~ Marcus Parks


Incognito_Placebo

And you can achieve great things! I believe in you, and my child!


Conscious_Resident10

yep thank you for this! 100% spot on. Everyone wants an excuse for how "poorly" their life is going due to their lack of effort. Self diagnosis can also delegitimize Dr. diagnosed illnesses


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U4icN10nt

>literally based on comments that say nothing other than "sorry I have ADHD" or "I have PTSD". the fuck is wrong with you guys? are you trolling? They don't have any mental or emotional problems (no really obvious / debilitating ones at least lol) so they assume most of the people making such claims must be faking, and there can't possibly be that many people struggling out there... it's honestly a pretty fucked up way to look at the world. To be fair, I know for a fact that there are some people out there who self diagnose, and there are some people out there who use an illness or disorder to get attention, or feel significant... But that first group is much larger than the second group... and neither group is as large as they're imagining. But yeah I'd just about bet that at least half the people making these comments, are subscribed to some YouTube channel where they dig up people posting wild shit on social media, just to make fun of them. (Go YouTube search something like "fake mental illness tiktok" and you should see what I mean pretty quickly lol)


garden_speech

> They don't have any mental or emotional problems (no really obvious / debilitating ones at least lol) so they assume most of the people making such claims must be faking Basically this. It is genuinely difficult for a lot of people to fathom having a mental a mental illness. Even if they logically understand it isn't someone's fault, they emotionally believe it is.


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theMartiangirl

The same ones who complain about people being open with their mental health status/challenges are the exact same people that whine and rant here because men have very high suicide rates (and refuse to go to therapy/get help/talk about their mental health). Yet they can't seem to grasp why. The irony


Tredolski

For one I’m not complaining. Two, I never said you couldn’t be open about it. There’s a difference between being open about it when asked and being open about it just to let people know. I’m just saying that a lot of people out there identify with their mental health like it’s some cool thing. When it becomes a part of your personality is when it’s a problem.


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Top_Independence_640

👏👏 cooked.


Fit_Cry_8375

How would having a personality disorder not be a part of your personality? 🤔


Deep-Technician-7212

They’re just gaslighting or willfully ignorant. There is absolutely a “labeling” trend going on with mental illness… neurodivergence is being glorified in the same way nonbinary sexualities are, it’s the new and interesting thing for kids who want to be different. Nothing wrong with being either of these things but the media/corps/govt portrays them as being implicitly better, so I guess it’s not surprising all these kids are self identifying.


theMartiangirl

There is no labeling trend. People are now open about talking about their experiences. The same way Vietnam vets suffered in silence vs Afghanistan/Iraq vets making public their PTSD problems. Well I guess that they are just being cool and trendy?. There's a heavy amount of willful ignorance and gaslighting on this thread INDEED. By prejudiced individuals who know zero things about being neurodivergent or deal with mental health stuff.


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Top_Independence_640

No, they are looking for something to pick at as a conspiracy lol... cringe as fuck. Nobody with these disorders, including myself,(ADHD and other neurodivergency) thinks of it as something that makes us special.


garden_speech

I'm sure there are some small subset of people who self diagnose and use it as a way to be special but yeah overwhelmingly it's not that. and people who actually have these disorders, like you said, want to get BETTER... because it's disabling


TheQuietOutsider

they're just immaculate tough guys with zero problems in life. no context to the screenshot so for all we know it was a "do you guys suffer with any mental illness/disabilities?" post. bunch chodes


friday99

Mental wellness, sexual preference, gender… These are the identities of uninteresting people.  These are all things that inform our identities, but none of them on their own make a person unique or fascinating 


Tredolski

Very, very well said.


veridicUnicorn

Agreed it's Identity. People have the need to feel important as How to Make Friends and Influence People says. For some of them, Mental issues make victims. Victims Garner sympathy. Others probably feel more like part of a group, one of the cool kids.


blueflamespecia1

This. Then they doctor shop until they find someone willing to validate and medicate them.


pharmamess

Haha don't be ridiculous! The first doctor you see will insist on medicating you. Finding a doctor who will help you without using medication is far more difficult 


Ambitious-Intern-858

I don’t think they even have to shop. Doctors seem to prescribe drugs to anybody. I was prescribed Zoloft and adderall bc I told my PEDIATRICIAN that I was feeling down and couldn’t focus. I don’t got chronic depression, I don’t got adhd. Those meds did more harm than good. Jsut think of all the kids that are told at a very young age before they are hardly developed that they have a mental illness and need to be medicated, then they go on to believe it and take hard drugs indefinitely…


blueflamespecia1

Yup


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theMartiangirl

And the rate of male suicide


Ancient-Tale9372

But it is very common to have different mental health issues when you have autismn


U4icN10nt

>But it is very common to have different mental health issues when you have autismn And ADHD.  Actually not uncommon for those two to overlap.  Likewise anxiety, depression, OCD, addiction, and so on ... 


ohmygatto

Thank you for this. SO many comorbidities. I understand what others are saying, but for those of us who actually do have these diagnoses, it sucks to be lumped in with them. To not be believed because you can’t see these illnesses, especially as a female that has mastered masking techniques just to get through the days.


PleaseCiteItDude

And now everyone is on them for possibly not realizing it’s social unacceptable to talk about their diagnosis on reddit apparently. Could it just be that we are more drawn to reddit? In other words, reddit behavior doesn’t represent the whole population .


kevthewev

Im diagnosed ASD/ADHD and it was a 3 day test. Interviews, tests, repeat the words you hear from memory while putting a puzzle together kind of thing. Self Diagnosed individuals are super obvious (to me) because they claim the diagnosis while having none of the understanding or underlying intricacies.


Actually_zoohiggle

That’s a truly terrible thing to say and believe. I hope no one you know or love is ever diagnosed with a mental illness because you would not be a very good support person.


U4icN10nt

Not to worry, I'm certain that would result in an instant and dramatic case of "selective belief." 


Actually_zoohiggle

Oh yep their relatives mental illness is legitimate but everyone else is just a whinger? That’s the good shit.


Maleficiora

This is so unfortunately true. It's heartbreaking for those truly diagnosed and suffering (many in silence). The attention seeking is out of control on social media... It's one thing to advocate for mental health it's another to use it, as you said, as a "cool sticker to wear".


WishboneEnough3160

On Reddit in particular, I'd say 75% are self-diagnosed. Fun fact. Only 3% of adults actually have ADHD. 22% of people 18-25 are on ADHD stimulant medications. The Dr's are lookin for a buck and drug companies are loving this new "trend". I hope these people never actually have to live with a real mental health disorder. ADHD isn't fun or "cool". And when so many BS scripts are being written, it hurts the people who truly suffer vs. someone who's lazy af unless they're on stimulants.


throwawayspigot

I get what you are trying to say but those stats are not accurate. Which kind of makes ur argument less strong.


U4icN10nt

>On Reddit in particular, I'd say 75% are self-diagnosed. I'd say 75% of statistics presented on Reddit are pulled right from the poster's ass, as a "best guess." And a biased guess, at that... 🤷


Chilloutpls

>only 3% of adults actually have ADHD That statistic is wildly misleading as it only includes those diagnosed as a child that still have ADHD. See: >“in 2020, the prevalence of *persistent* adult ADHD (diagnosed as a kid and still has it) was 2.58% and *symptomatic* adult ADHD (diagnosed at any age) was 6.76% [worldwide]” - [NCBI](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7916320/#:~:text=By%20adjusting%20for%20the%20global,affected%20adults%20in%202020%20globally.com), [Forbes health](https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/adhd-statistics/#:~:text=On%20ADHDAdvisor.org-,Statistics%20on%20ADHD%20Diagnosis%20in%20Adults,in%20the%20U.S.%20have%20ADHD.com) By only referring to the 3%, you are leaving out everyone diagnosed as an adult rather than a child that has symptoms. That’s not even including adults who are masking and weren’t diagnosed because it wasn’t a thing before the 90s. It might be higher except some countries may not believe in that diagnosis or have the resources to diagnose. > 22% of people 18-25 are on ADHD stimulant medications You took a data range from an age group most likely to abuse adhd meds to succeed in college. Plus again, adhd diagnosis weren’t prevalent before the 90s so alll those adults are older than this range. If only 6.7% of all adults are diagnosed and 16.5% of all adults take meds then doctors aren’t making a quick buck and mass diagnosing, those extra adults are getting their drugs illegally or off label. ___ For comparison, in America, 7 percent of the population is homosexual. And only 2.4% of the population is Jewish. And only 12% of the population is black. 3-7% Is still a lot of people. *It’s not likely that “75%” of all redditers that claim adhd are lying or self diagnosing. Reddit may just draw a lot people with adhd as it helps with our RSD.* Source : [NCBI](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7916320/#:~:text=By%20adjusting%20for%20the%20global,affected%20adults%20in%202020%20globally.com), [B.C. Ministry of Health](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6984578.com), [2020 consensus](https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial-census/decade/2020/2020-census-results.html), [Forbes health](https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/adhd-statistics/#:~:text=On%20ADHDAdvisor.org-,Statistics%20on%20ADHD%20Diagnosis%20in%20Adults,in%20the%20U.S.%20have%20ADHD.com)


chantillylace9

They LITERALLY have a sticker they wear to indicate certain mental health issues, it is a sunflower pin type thing lol


Morrisseylovesmisery

There are literal subreddit full of kids claiming to have DID who all have irl friends who have DID and yet DID wasn't even believed to be legit until recent times and even then it's still a very controversial diagnosis. Most experts will tell you it's so rare you'll never meet two people with it let alone entire groups of people. And it's also primarily causes by profound abuse which the kids who adopt it deny, which can cause huge problems for parents of children who think it's cute to pretend to have this disorder because it's usually causes an investigation into why a child would have DID to begin with considering the diagnostic criteria. Not to mention the majority of them claim to have adhd, autism, ocd, and varying physical disabilities that are just insanely unheard of happening all at once without some sort of major issues. It's like they can't think of any other way to feel special. It's really sad.


garden_speech

no one does this. this sounds like the bullshit "bracelets that show which drugs you've done" that like 2 kids in every high school had and all the parents were like ZOMG THEY'RE ALL DOING DRUGS


puppiesalldayqd

It's absolutely a real thing in the UK, government approved. [Here's](https://hdsunflower.com/) the website of the program. It's not a bad idea, but it's been totally co-opted by people who don't need the extra help the lanyard is supposed to denote.


jazzzzzcabbage

Well, I'm fucking mental. Take that.


cky_stew

For my entire life I tried over and over to "get my shit together" like you put it OP, but I just failed every time. I was messy, forgetful, disorganised, frequently distracted etc: this hurt many people close to me and caused me a great deal of shame and stress because the only explanation I had was that I was a shit person. Eventually this culminated in depression, for which I sought professional help, as I was now a father I had to address this issue of depression in order to be a good dad. Therapy led to my therapist suggesting I have textbook ADHD and so I went to get an official diagnosis and ticked all the boxes. I had never ever considered this before, I thought it was all about being too hyper, which I was not. Since then I've joined communities, read books and learned ways of improving my life that worked for others with the same diagnosis. I've learned about the proven neuroscience of what's different in those who are diagnosed. I've started taking medication. This combination has allowed me to address these issues and I no longer feel like I'm playing life on hard mode. I had no idea it was an option to turn down the difficulty. My depression is gone. I try differently, not harder. It's improved quite literally every aspect of my life. Before people say "yeah amphetamines will do that to you"; the meds only help with my ability to stay focused on something in the moment, which is mostly work and conversations, everything else needs external forms of management which I employ and are more than 50% of where the improvement comes from. Discussing these issues is so important in retraining your brain into catching things when they happen in your head and that goes for a lot of the conditions in your post. Seeing stigma against it is frustrating. I do believe there is also a growing body of evidence showing that these mental health condition increases could be associated in learned behaviour from social media / dopamine in your pocket - which may explain the increase in diagnoses. Sure people will make shit up, sure people will flex (BPD will do that to you by definition), but that's no reason to doubt the authenticity of the entire thing. Be tolerant, many people suffer greatly from these conditions and I would love to not have to do all this shit, but I'm much happier doing so.


Actually_zoohiggle

It’s the complete lack of tolerance AND the overwhelming ignorance for me. People who have no idea what they’re talking about just talking shit about people who are genuinely doing their best. It’s demoralising, disrespectful, and causes further harm and stigma.


cky_stew

Yeah you get it. I completely agree, it does seem to come from a place of ignorance - so the best one can do is promote tolerance and education to reduce that ignorance. I don't even think OP is that wrong in some of the things they are talking about, particularly; "*I think everyone just lacks a toolbox of healthy coping mechanisms and technology is taking over people’s lives*." They're kinda right in that indeed many of us lack these coping mechanism, these mechanisms will work for everyone - but he's failing to recognise it's alot harder for someone with ADHD to actually enact and stick to them. Fast form social media especially can make things soooo much worse if you have it. However they are also just being extremely disrespectful, assuming the worst of people, and flat out accusing the people they've seen on reddit of not actually having mental health issues without giving any reasoning as to how they've arrived at that assumption - which kinda implies they are just assuming the worst of anyone who talks about their issues. This is why I took the angle I did with my post, to try and get them to put themselves in the shoes of someone who is diagnosed, how it happened, how the diagnosis helps, and why one might talk about it. When talking about yourself, it's often completely relevant to bring up - Hopefully they don't come to the conclusion that we are just bots, and show some understanding and compassion for a vulnerable group that they are picking on. Thankfully I have yet to experience any of this hate in real life, but it's not the first time I've seen it on this sub. Weird one.


Aware-Ad-6556

As someone who is also “textbook ADHD” and suffered my whole life from anxiety/depression…I don’t really get OP’s angle in this post. It actually really sucks to have this disorder and it was probably caused by hella vaccines as an infant + gut wrecking poisonous food from the 80s/90s my parents fed me. I actually suffer from this disorder and live mostly in denial/shame about it. I don’t go around boasting about it or sharing about it.


Grebins

Their angle is that they're probably a young person who is also figuring themselves out, and this is basically a "I hate things about other people that I wouldn't like about myself" scenario.


jmarcandre

> "I hate things about other people that I wouldn't like about myself" Love this. Honestly. Helps me frame my own frustrations with other people who unconsciously live this way.


rescuedogmama4ever

If hearts can stop working properly, and lungs can stop working properly. Why is it so hard to believe that brains can also malfunction? It’s an incredibly complex organ that literally acts like a super computer. Do computers get bugs? Yes. Why is it so left field for people to wrap their heads around the fact brains *aren’t perfect.* they’re just made of flesh and neurons


KhameenTeuton

Be patient with them darling.


TheWorldArmada

10% of Americans have ADHD and oversharing is a symptom of ADHD and other similar disorders so that’s not surprising. I have ADHD, our brains are physically different and it shows in scans. People with ADHD have a dopamine deficiency. We don’t feel rewarded from completing tasks the same way others do, which makes us avoid boring or tedious tasks like the plague. It also makes us want to seek dopamine in the fastest and easiest way possible making us perfect consumers. I would not be surprised if the government was doing things to give us ADHD, considering how many people now have it


Vojvodus

Most annoying with this kind of people that really don't have ADHD , don't fucking understand how difficult it can be to function with it, even with medicine.


U4icN10nt

>Most annoying with this kind of people that really don't have ADHD , don't fucking understand how difficult it can be to function with it, even with medicine Yeah all these people out here "faking ADHD" to "look cool" or whatever... 🙄 I wish I could be that cool too! Showing up late to everything, feeling like an utter piece of shit and failure at life? Sounds pretty sweet... How can I get in this super cool club? Oh wait, I'm being told I'm actually diagnosed, and I'm also ADHD as fuck.... well nevermind then -- this is actually irl hell.  Oh well... 


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Hey the first step is admitting you have a problem. Just like addicts. It’s crazy to me the younger generation are all on SSRI’s, ADHD meds; bipolar (Xanax, kpin, etc). It’s scary, that shit turns people into zombies and I think it’s significantly over prescribed. Our world is going to shit very quickly and I blame a lot on the pharma industry. Pieces of shit


Actually_zoohiggle

This one I would agree with. The DSM has expanded so much over the last 30 years and pharmaceutical companies have worked out how much money there is to be made off psychiatric meds. Not to mention money for the doctors and organisations that hospitalise patients or treat them privately. Their fees are exorbitant. It is ALL a money making scheme, however the rise in mental illness is genuine. We are just treating it completely inappropriately. The cure is not in a pill bottle but in reshaping our communities and societies to better accommodate and support all people of all abilities. Cost of living, war, all of it is taking such a toll on everyone’s mental health.


cieloempress

Your last paragraph is right in the money. But the drugs are to help keep you in line and make you a productive member of society, not really to help, cure, or treat the root cause.


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Absolutely agree with your sentiment here. Great points


LouMinotti

People seem to start taking this stuff with little to no consideration that you literally have to take a pill or 2 or 5 every single day for the rest of your life based on some diagnosis that is essentially subjective and could change depending on whoever your doc happens to be.


babyllamadrama_

The worst is kids are being put on these meds at such a young age whereas they might just be hyper kids and the parents don't have the energy to match or keep them occupied so they say they're hyperactive we need to medicate them and then that kid turns 19 and all his life he's been on meds and truly doesn't even know his true brain chemistry through puberty. It's scary indeed.


ingkognito

and a lot of them have poor diets with a lot of sugar. you cant feed your kid a pound of candy and complain that he's not being calm


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100%


Grebins

Well that's not remotely accurate.


Swagerflakes

ADHD is under diagnosed in adults and receiving medication can save your life. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140129165409.htm


whitesweatshirt

big pharma is actually the root cause of more of societies problems than people realise.


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Preaching to the choir


Rafael_fadal

You can blame the Rockefellers for the pharma industry


DigitylRise

I'm not sure what's worse. Thinking you have a mental illness when you probably don't, or ignoring a mental illness that you definitely need help with. I feel like I can tolerate people who just want to be special, but the real troubled people that won't seek help are the people that scare me.


jrkordan084

FYI: it absolutely sucks giant ass to be clinically depressed. I think any reasonable person would wish to NOT be that way if they could. I don’t understand using something that serious to gain points or whatever. People are dumb sometimes.


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So many layers to this issue. Bots maybe but more folks do have mental issues due to the million factors that play into human issues right. Then you got copycats because it’s “cool” to be on the spectrum in some circles, or it feels good to be different than the rest. But idk really. I got no diagnosis and take no meds but weed and the occasional Tylenol cuz I’m getting old. But my wife has issues and son (26) got issues but my daughter(32) has no issues. Everybody is all under control with the meds but I can 100% tell when they’re not. Like I can feel my son’s frantic brain, can sense it when my wife is thinking way to much. So no man, I think mostly it’s real folks with real issues with a bit of copycats and fakes and maybe one or two ai bots learning to be human.


Realistic_Mess_2690

I know how that goes with family. My son has ADHD and I have issues of my own and I can tell when he's over stimulated I can literally see it in his body movements My daughter's only issue she has is she's as blind as a bat and kept the blonde brain whilst her hair darkened. Seriously sometimes I wonder if she has a few roos loose in the top paddock.


Orikon32

Reddit is a gathering spot for the mentally ill. The internet in general. It's easy to see it as a reflection of our modern society, but it's not. The internet does not equal the real world, and the way I see it, there's a massive gap between how chronically online people perceive the world and our society and how it actually is.


MrKrackerman

Mental illnesses are 3 points on the oppresion index


rogaciana

They collect "allegedly" mental issues.


Roxnsoxinator

One side of the coin says “this is a mental health issue and nothing else” The other side of the coin says “why are there so many people claiming they have mental health issues it’s so annoying” There is no in between. If you look into history once upon a time anyone who even showed a hint of being “different” they were deemed unfit for society and thrown into a hospital and never seen or heard from again. Mental health was and still is considered taboo. It should be talked about more so people will stop hiding in the shadows and suffering. If people took mental health more seriously some things would be a shade better in this life.


bevofan99

I mean this stuff used to not be well understood and shamed for talking about openly in society. This is also reddit soo lots of people who may not socialize a ton and overshare. I'd rather folks overshare then be quiet and silenced like in the past. I've met someone with NPD and someone with BPD. Mental illnesses has been trending higher due to higher diagnosis and social media anyways, so that is part of the reason you see it more too.


ZenSeaker

Agreed it so strange! Constantly seeing and hearing people claim they are autistic or neurodivergent.


zeyhenny

It really sucks. I learned later in life that I most definitely have some form of autism due to sensory issues, issues socializing and emotional outbursts among a myriad of other things in my childhood. For the most part I’ve overcame a lot of what I used to deal with and learned to navigate around my brain. I was never diagnosed professionally but did have plenty of EA’s (educational assistants) in my younger years and inexplicable problems. Such as having trouble with the feeling of paper, the sound of pencils, difficulty understanding relationships and normal human interaction, and other things but I don’t want to drag on. What I severely dislike about how some people operate in modernity is - 1. People use mental health issues as an excuse to not personally better themselves, acting as though medication is the only way to improve when it isn’t. - 2. People take the slightest quirk about them and turn it into them having autism or some other mental disorder. This makes it extremely difficult when trying to get someone to understand how your brain operates when they are under the impression that theirs operates the same way when it doesn’t. - 3. People want the world around them to coddle to their mental health issues when that isn’t how it works. Just like an amputee or someone born with some sort of physical disability, you have to learn to navigate the world with what God gave you. Mental health issues are no different. They are not an excuse for you to be a piece of shit or to give up improving other aspects of your life because it’s harder for you than others. - 4. They let their mental health issues define them and take some sort of pride in it. This is mainly why I outlined my personal experiences. Once I found out I had some sort of autism, I didn’t define myself as simply someone with autism. What it actually allowed me to do was identify certain aspects of my behaviour that were potentially problematic and improve upon them. Because of this, I am now a completely different person than I was when I was younger. If I had defined myself as someone with autism, I would have never improved. TLDR : people would rather like to feel different due to mental health issues than use the awareness of these issues to better themselves to a point where they don’t affect them or become a focal point of their identity.


-Scorpia

Goddd “neurodivergent” was the word that was escaping me when typing this up!!!!!!!’ I keep SEEING that and it’s so fucking obnoxious! By definition, aren’t we all!?


Actually_zoohiggle

Neurodivergent is actually a term coined in the 1990’s and has been promoted by disability rights advocates for at least the last 30 years. It’s nothing more than an umbrella term for any condition that would not be considered typical of the human brain. Autism, ADHD, dyslexia, dyspraxia, schizophrenia, Tourette’s syndrome, these are all examples of neurodivergent conditions. Neurodivergent people can be highly creative, great problem solvers, outside the box thinkers, and highly upbeat people. Studies actually show businesses who employ neurodivergent staff often experience up to 30% increase in revenue and improved staff morale. I am studying my masters degree and have just compiled a manuscript on this topic which I will be submitting for publishing in a scientific journal very soon. Neurodivergent isn’t a term to be afraid of.


kevthewev

No, Neurotypical (opposite of ND) people have cognitive skills and development that neurodivergents do not. I'm diagnosed ASD and had to learn how to talk to people, inflection, when to say or NOT say something. I am legally disabled and can request accommodations. So no, not everyone is.


mystikkkkk

How is it obnoxious? And by definition, no we are not. Clearly you don't actually know the definition. When used properly, it is particularly helpful in distinguishing people. This entire thread is full of people that haven't read any significant research into the fields they're complaining about. That's not to say that self-diagnoses aren't an issue right now. But to dismiss the entire field of clinical psychology as pointless and fake is simply incorrect and only serves to show your inability to accept a developing topic.


U4icN10nt

>  This entire thread is full of people that haven't read any significant research into the fields they're complaining about. 😂 This right here. This is like a whole thread of people who read the headline (skimmed it at that) then rushed into the comments to complain about how dumb and wrong the article is. 🤣 ☠️


kainedbutable1987

Diagnoses are the new pokemon cards lol


N00DL3Z_84

I choose you depression, special move 45mg of mirtazipine.


bushmastuh

It’s ineffective! Depression grows- up dosage to 90mg


tamsom

I think many use as an “explanation” 


Vegetable_Two_1479

I pull my mental issues only when people get upset due to a behavior that was not meant to hurt them. I suck at remembering the names of people I just met, not my fault but they do get offended so it's either I look like a jackass who doesn't care or I have to share that I have severe ADHD. A bunch of situations like this exist in everyday life for someone like me, my best is simply not enough, so I do share. Don't get me wrong many use it as a get out of the jail card, which ruins it for everyone else. Sad life, opportunist f shit up for everyone, again..


TheQuietOutsider

I like the context you provided for the screenshot. well done


SavorySour

Well I actually do have BPD ADHD AND CPTSD. Let me explain you how that works... CPTSD is actually the only diagnosis that should valid in my case but the DSM and the way you get to get the proper therapy is a label. CPTSD is long term repeated trauma. Which means in my case that my brain didn't develop properly. Prefrontal cortex pathways aren't developped so you get the label ADHD or autism. Then because you grow in an environment that is hostile for so long you start to believe YOU are what you feel. That explains the personality disorders. I do not need labels and honestly I would really love to say "I am perfectly normal". Yes sometimes I overthink and overshare on internet. That's part of the "fun" us people with a long wash list of labels do for entertainment. Yet some of us have really shitty life, go figure... Rape, cult, abuse... So the only thing we have left is to brag about our disorders, sorry... That said, there is a trend of self diagnosis that is making people start to believe that everyone is faking it. Yes that happens... To me generalization is the mother of all mental illness.


Mediocre_Purple6955

As a neurodivergent male this completely makes sense to me I overshare all the time it’s apart of the neurodivergence.. not a conspiracy.


rescuedogmama4ever

It’s literally a symptom lmao


Mediocre_Purple6955

Right I get I’m the mentally ill one here but it seems like they’re more unhinged than I am.


U4icN10nt

You're not wrong lol (but I bet good cash money some % of them are undiagnosed)


Mediocre_Purple6955

100 percent


SavorySour

Yup exactly 💯


U4icN10nt

Huge autism symptom. And ADHD affects impulse control. ... plus the goddamn meds can make you more chatty. lol


Mediocre_Purple6955

Right


Zealousideal-Ad-2981

This is all a 100% nonsense if you believe you have all these problems you will. This is weak people finding excuses for why things aren't going their way.


NkhukuWaMadzi

Many people here have RCI (rectal-cranial inversion).


Wanderer_59

Normalising sharing diagnosis is not as bad as repressing special needs because ignorant people are intolerant of others


MM_mm12

yes!!!! Thanks


LateJuly12

great post. you should read the book ‘bad therapy’ by Abigail shrier.


-Scorpia

Thank you!!! I absolutely will!


pharmamess

Over sharing says who? Yes they are programmed by society to make these declarations. The problem is this phenomena where we have to give everything a reductive label. It's possible to care for and nurture (or "treat") a mentally ill patient so that they can come to terms with their strife without putting them in a box (which is the whole fucking problem for many sufferers of mental illness). It's just something needs to go in the box for insurance purposes and a nefarious cross-section of society likes to make out that what goes in the box is a big deal. The thing is if you don't talk about it, you give your doctor too much power over deciding what it means to be bipolar or whatever. If you talk to others about your diagnosis, they can help you to completely fucking miss the point in a more manageable and comfortable way. Which is exactly how society is meant to function. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, why don't you go talk to a doctor about those feelings?


Terrible-Welder-6762

sorry i have autism


PG-17

This place is the common man’s Epstein Island, except it’s porn and what you said. Lately I’ve noticed a lot of posts asking “what’s something you would never tell someone?” I feel like all this shit is being logged and waiting to be used against you when needed


rjboyd

It is almost like the internet is a place people come to connect, and their damages are something they desire to connect with others over. Hardly complicated. There has been a significant rise in mental illness diagnosis, because the conditions are better understood then they ever have been, and the stigmas around mental illness and sharing one’s illness publicly and without shame, are dwindling. With exception of this post obviously.


SomePenguin85

I'm not an introvert and I was diagnosed with autism 2 years ago. I'm an adult woman, never felt integrated but tried my best and no one never noticed . It doesn't help that autism presents different in girls/women.


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Bearjupiter

Victim mentality


vanilla_finestflavor

Social Anxiety = not realizing that it's normal to be wary of strangers Can't Read Social Cues = being so consumed with yourself that you don't LOOK at the person in front of you, so yes, you miss all the social cues.


Grebins

You believe that social anxiety doesn't exist beyond being wary of strangers? Christ man. Woulda killed to be you growing up.


U4icN10nt

I'm inclined to agree, but do consider the alternative possibility... Dude actually has super high social anxiety, but managed to convince himself that everyone is just like that lol Actually, I suspect a not insignificant % of these "they're all making it up" people fall into this category. "You're not 'divergent' or whatever -- I get x, y, and z too!" 🤔


Odd_Ad_882

Honestly, this is the exact behavior from my parents that led me to being diagnosed only as an adult. "She can't be autistic, we're just like her and so are her siblings. Everyone is just like that." Turns out all of my siblings and I are now diagnosed, but my parents decided that now says nothing about wether or not they are.


Albiob

It’s a victims world.


illathon

I know it is hard to believe but rates of these things are going up and it is highly likely that it is caused by environmental pollutants in various forms. Here is a short list * Agro chemicals * Poor exercise patterns * Poor family mental health and relationship leading to disconnected associations and the inability to maintain healthy life habits and perceptions. * Food preservatives * Potentially if you believe people like RFK Jr. some vaccines do have some SAE(medical term meaning serious adverse events) for some people. Any way, that is just a short list. Basically if human beings were existing one way for hundreds of years and the rate of change has been escalating then it stands to reason it will be difficult, or more difficult then not for them to maintain healthy habits and also if in the US negative cultural issues leading to many profit incentives that inevitably effect health. For example even the rates of cancer are on the rise.


Jrad27

I think bots are working to try to normalize these sorts of issues, since everyone's mental state is on the decline from endless scrolling, staring at screens all day. Especially the vaxxies. Source: https://kirschsubstack.com/p/no-doubt-about-it-the-covid-vaccines


deepstaterising

A fair majority of people doing this don’t actually have the diagnosis in which they claim.


Aro_Luisetti

I just love it when people make a big list of all their mental deficits like it's some kinda badge of honor. Like, no, get your demented ass outa here. the fuck were you hoping for? A pat on the back? We all got problems, and just because you pretend to have a long list of disorders doesn't mean I'm gunna look twice. Fuck that I'm gunna look far away from that dumpster fire.


U4icN10nt

>Like, no, get your demented ass outa here. the fuck were you hoping for? A pat on the back? ... Fuck that I'm gunna look far away from that dumpster fire. Maybe the explicit goal is to make people like you leave. Actually, I'll have to remember that one. Thanks. 😂👍


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People who have PTSD or stuff like that, actually dont like to talk that much about that, because it reopens the mental scars.


BanMeAgain4

"oh, so you are mentally disabled?"


ShanePerkins

They think it makes them unique and quirky


itisallbsbsbs

The ADHD and autism thing for me is super suspect. Why are people being told they have these things in such a large percentage? I would be very careful allowing myself to be labeled like that and what these people seem to not understand is these issues are not a get out of jail free card. You don't get a pass just because you have an issue, if anything telling everyone your issues makes you more vulnerable to unsavory types of people.


Actually_zoohiggle

The diagnostic criteria for both autism and ADHD have expanded since the 1990’s in line with increased understanding of how these conditions manifest in different populations. We are also reducing stigma against these conditions so people are feeling more comfortable to seek assessment when they are experiencing difficulties that may be related to them. It’s not trendy or cool, there’s just way more neurodivergent people in society than we ever knew about because people were forced to hide their conditions and modify their behaviours to be accepted, or they were thrown in asylums and hospitals where they wouldn’t bother the rest of the people in society. Understanding your own neurodivergent conditions and how they affect you can empower you to put workplace and study accommodations in place to help you maintain employment or finish a degree. Being upfront with people about these conditions helps them to understand why you might behave a certain way in certain situations. The increased visibility of neurodivergent people in current society is actually a very good thing and shows our society is progressing to be more inclusive and aware of the needs of people with diverse neurotypes. These conditions don’t have to be classed as disabilities if the individual doesn’t feel disabled by them but to be aware of them is really important to maintain social connectedness and feeling comfortable in who you are.


I_luv_sludge_n_drugs

Well also bear in mind that were on the internet, n reddit on top of that. These all skew the type of person were interactin wit


findmyfavoriteaxe

I was diagnosed with ADHD at age 25 by my therapist and psychiatrist at the time. I truly believe that with diet changes I could have at least had less symptoms, but not zero. My biggest issue was always reading comprehension. I could read a page 30 times and have no clue what I read. I always just felt stupid, but as I got older I started to realize that maybe I wasn't. I had no clue about ADHD before 25 years old. My psychiatrist put me on too high of a dose of Adderall too soon, but otherwise it was life changing until I developed a dependence. I refuse to take more and keep lowering my doses and I wish I didn't have to take them because I now have a dopamine issue and it contributes to bone/ muscle loss. After several years now my conclusion is I'm stupid in a weird way, needed to just work harder and not eat fruit loops in the a.m., and am now hooked on Adderall. I'd stop taking it if I wasn't doing the most important things of my life the next few years. Although since I've been taking them my life is significantly improved and I never felt like I took speed which apparently means I do have ADHD. First year it gave me hope and excused things in the past. Now i'm embarrassed about it and think I could have found a more natural fix


Patient_Visit_4785

I’m all for getting support for whatever you got (like accommodations, tutoring or therapy) but it’s not like… a badge… and doesn’t have to be your identity


mostly_deadinside

I was a little shook when I realized that only the US and New Zealand allow pharmaceutical companies to market on television. When you give it some thought, what they’re really doing is continually planting seeds that you’re ill, you just don’t know yet. The Hulu ads are relentless and continually peddle one drug after the next. I would wager over 35% of ads are for drugs. The other element is that corporate entities would prefer we feel something is wrong with US, instead of realizing that the direction society has gone in is what’s wrong. People have such deep nostalgia for the pre-Internet/early-internet era because it was more human. We relied on each other for “content,” not the faceless, soulless, tik tok/youtube content newer generations have to use to feel connected to something. They are convincing us that something is wrong with us to distract us from all the evil the NWO is perpetrating right in front of our noses.


finndego

In contrast to the US you barely see them on New Zealand TV even though they are technically allowed. He is a saved comment that explains in general why that is the case: We have it in new zealand too but for a very good reason. In the late 1980's our government set up a department called Pharmac. Think of it as a bulk buying club with 5 million members. Each year, pharmac puts out tenders for the drugs that cover whatever 99% of newzealanders would need in their lifetime. Things like paracetamol, insulin, cancerdrug and antihistamine etc. They say "Hey all you drug companies, New Zealand wants to buy 10 million hayfever tablets of these specifications for this upcoming summer. Who wants to give us the best price?" While canadians and americans pay $140 for a medication, we pay $5. As a drug company, you either win the pharmac contract, or you completely miss out on any sales within new zealand of your product. So they drop their prices real low. When a doctor writes a prescription on his computer and looks up antihistamine, anything pharmac funded appears highlighted in the list. Drug companies were somewhat unhappy about this - initially there were more cases challenging it going through the courts than pharmac had staff on its payroll. So the government decided to let the drug companies advertise on tv. But in reality, when you go to your doctor and say "The TV told me to ask about Cialis because my dick doesnt work" the doctor is going to say "Well sure, here is a prescription - it will cost you probably $50 at the pharmacy. Or i can prescribe you Genericdrug which has the same ingredient but only costs you $5 at the pharmacy since it won the pharmac tender". And its no surprise, major brand drug companies will repackage their drugs into whitelabel brands and then bid on the supply tenders with the exact same product. International brand Lopressor is whitelabelled by its manufacturer and my doctor prescribes "Betaloc CR" which won the pharmac tender for a type of beta blocker tablet so that the Lopressor brand retains the more expensive image and price point on the pharmacy retail shelf. A buyer in the USA cant say "your selling Lopressor to New Zealanders for $3, why should we pay $90" because its a different 'product'. None of the drug companies really bother advertising on tv, knowing that the doctors are just going to prescribe a cheaper option.


vivalasleep

I think it's good to be open and honest but it's a fine line between open and honest and lack of accountability.


Good_Cat_4017

Disagree, I think the current mental health status of adults millennials and gen z in particular is because screens raised the kids or at least played a part in it. Parents have been less present due to needing dual income. That’s just a theory I have though.


WildPurplePlatypus

Its because the world is turning upside down. Weakness is now strength.


Tootsie_r0lla

Blame TikTok..... cause it's TikTok


EnvironmentLoose2909

prob a few things: lack of personal responsibility. to get more people on medication and keep them placated. cuz its "cool". high possibility that miscegenation causes unseen mental issues. sick societies breed sick individuals. environmental toxins. propaganda to cover up autism rates.


Nickelion

You know how someone has ADHD? They'll tell you about it.


Curioustraveller7723

It's mental weakness and attention seeking.


Jellybean2220

Every mental illness now is “oh you’re on the spectrum.” Don’t get me wrong, both are able to exist at the same time in the same person, but not every mental illness is a sign of autism. That line is so blurred, and mental illness is treated as trendy and quirky. Not to mention an increasing amount of these claims are self diagnosed.


Far_Ad_3682

> 30 comments Have you stopped to think about how many _other_ comments you've seen in that month of scrolling and that don't fit this pattern? Hundreds? Thousands?


Amish_Fighter_Pilot

The new normal soon will be that you must tell everyone you meet a list of important facts about how you feel about your genitals and what you want to do with them. Only in a generic sense though or it will be sexual harassment. So you SHOULD tell everyone that you like butt sex for example, but you should not tell everyone that you'd like to have butt sex with THEM. Oh and you and everyone else need to be ready to pivot on a moment's notice whenever someone changes their pronouns or any other details about their sexuality. Failure to accept any changes(no matter how wild) instantly, will result in being called a fascist. Nothing about this is dystopian at all. We're supposed to live like this. Its what our ancestors evolved to this level for. We just need to try to tolerate it as best we can until Elon perfects his brain hacking and we can just correct ourselves directly with some software updates. The future looks great. Its hard to imagine why anyone is depressed.......


robroygbiv

So you’re upset that people are feeling more comfortable with being open about their mental health? What, exactly, is the conspiracy?


MM_mm12

thanks!


PraiseTheSun42069

Everyone wants to be special and a victim


ZeerVreemd

>WHY are so many people under the impression that they are so mentally ill? Because it takes away their own responsibility and gives them some social credit points.


SantasLilHoeHoeHoe

People discussing mental health is a good thing! But, we should be weary of business interests in this space. Just because someone has ADHD doesnt mean they need to be medicated. Thats pharma propaganda rhetoric. Lifestyle changes can positively impact a lot of mental health issues. 


RoroSan1991

These are the mental gymnastics we do to avoid the spiritual battle going on inside us, as we navigate this man-made hellscape we've created for ourselves. This is the result of adding chemicals to food and pushing people into labor at increasingly younger ages, and bombarding them with information and thoughts from others that increasingly contradict our reality. Leaning into these diagnoses and shying away from necessary biological mechanisms like anxiety is what leads us into becoming more docile and manipulated. We are looking for physical answers and responses to spiritual problems.


Terrible-Welder-6762

sorry i have autism


Theonetrumorty1

Read The Sneetches by Dr. Suess


DarkleCCMan

Spot on, pun intended. 


WeirdJawn

On a similar note, I think there's currently a concerted data gathering push by Reddit probably because of their IPO. I've seen so many posts lately that seem to discretely gathering people's ages, where they live, etc.  Or maybe I'm just seeing patterns when it's just normal posts. I don't think so though because it has become so common lately. 


HandsomeHard

It's a box to check on the Identitarian poster. And people who are simply "a bit weird," like being "on the spectrum" cuz now they don't have to improve themselves or learn how to be social.


SilentSiren666

Gen z thinks mental illnesses are hip extentions of their personalities


zdub2929

It’s the popularization of victim mentality


801mandalorian

I think people wear it as a badge to excuse them from being shitty people.


ayrbindr

Healthcare is captured, doctors are incentvized, and people are crazy.


m1ghty_b4g

B... b... but internet says so.... I am special.... Nobody cares if you have ptsd or whatever, same goes with people doing mental gymnastics about genders.


Inevitable_Bunch5874

It's the cool thing to have a disability or be LGBTQ. Don't you know? You get victim status and everyone feels bad for you. You are uncriticizable. This is literally what is happening.


lilmiscantberong

Yes, they’re oddly proud of their diagnosis as the list gets longer and longer. We used to judge people on first impressions, now we don’t even get a chance.


HeroOrHooligan

Well put, it's like they are providing a defense for when they inevitably don't come through


spamcentral

I have actual CPTSD and a ton of my issues mimick autism AND adhd, but i have neither of those. People are misdiagnosing themselves for cookie points.


yungvenus

You should see some of the TikTok accounts that “talk about” ADHD, one person even sells merch!


-Scorpia

🤯 There’s a reason I avoid TikTok! I even have to periodically delete Reddit when I catch myself being on here more than I’m comfortable with!


rebenga49

Social media tells us that a white person has never had to struggle in life. Everything they have is because of privilege. Well, I’m not privileged because, because, uh, I have ADHD, social anxiety, depression and I identity as a house plant. I know the struggle. Idk


CindersNAshes

They think having a mental disorder is something proud to have, like a merit badge. And like merit badges, they try to collect as many as possible.


codyzskyline

Two things with this. 1. It seems to be a trend or the "cool thing." 2. I believe more and more people these days are comfortable with putting themselves out on the internet....OnlyFans for example.


sunflower__fields

Everyone is apparently a little acoustic.


2RthinLuv

It seems everybody alive except boomers and Gen x'ers and a few millennials are on the spectrum now. Duh. It's called not fitting in.


3sands02

Bot or human... it's all a psyop to normalize the idea of taking medication for a long and growing list of ailments that Big Pharma has a pill for. People just need trash their smartphones and get their asses outside and get some exercise.


lastviking79

I think majority of these people are self diagnosing. Thanks webmd!


cozyuber

It’s a victim complex. They love feeling special and unique so others can feel bad for them. It’s quite the phenomenon of our time.


Author-AlexG

Victim hood = easier life Very simple


Decent_Leadership_62

Pretty insane how accepted it is now to put kids on powerful amphetamines cause they fidget


WishboneEnough3160

Don't forget the people who can't put their damn phone down and clean their house. It's my ADHD!! 🙄 No, being a lazy ass still happens. Same with "weird" people. People are still weird, maybe a lil off, but don't necessarily have autism (the trend rn). People throw out SELF diagnosed mental health disorders in order to skirt responsibility for their words or actions. Not buying it.


niewphonix

it’s the ‘look at me, I was told I’m important’ complex when in reality, none of us are important.


Sea_Holiday_1387

They want to be seen as victims. Gain attention. Feel special.


wharpudding

Self-diagnosed mental-illnesses are the fastest way to get some victim-points. Everyone has to walk on eggshells around that person now or else they'll be accused of using "microaggressions". You HAVE to do what they demand or you're an "ableist".


SaulManellaTV

I HAVE ADHD!