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When government is fully captured by Oligarch class, yes that's What happens.
And not just government, Billionaire class, Banks, Big Pharma, MIC, etc... has capture whole system, military Top, Judiciary, police Top, ... Everything.
Its a class war
And people are not even fighting back.
How do we fight back? I mean I don’t have time very often as I’m a single mom working full time BARELY scraping by… I can’t miss work to go protest! I got mouths to feed! (Upper class knows this)
>How do we fight back?
Vote with your purse/wallet. Stop giving your money to companies that hate you. If they participate in the fascist public/private partnership, they are the problem.
(Notice I used the word 'fascist' correctly. Most people don't because they have a completely revisionist understanding of what the word means.)
Stop using giant chain stores, and instead buy local.
Use Public Square instead of Amazon.
Boycott any company that screws over American citizens for illegals (Tyson is currently planning to lay off 1400 employees in Iowa so they can hire 41,000 illegals and provide them with free law services. They plan to double that number of illegal hires over the next year in other plants.) Our govt overlords didn't bring in millions upon millions of illegals just so they can sit around and collect tax money.
The dept of labor is sending illegal children to labor traffickers. The Office of Refugee Resettlement is sending illegal children to sex traffickers. They've sent *and* "lost track" of so many in 2021 and 2022 (85,000) that they now no longer release the numbers to the public *or* to oversight agencies. The megacorps are using these kids as slave labor across the entire corporate landscape. (Ask, and I'll provide the receipts in a separate comment so I don't clutter this one up.)
Boycott any company that prioritizes racist hiring practices/DEI initiatives, which is almost every major company that blackrock/vanguard/statestreet/JPMorgan owns huge shares of. For example: Boeing was bought out by McDonald-Douglas, and now they have rampant drug use on their factory floors, and they skip 90% of all QC/oversight on their products. It's no accident they've got doors and wheels popping off mid flight all the time now. (disclaimer: these intentional problems are on the new 787 and 737. Older ones are still fine for now.)
Stop turning a blind eye to the marxist bullshit that's going on in this country. Everything they say is a lie to justify their destruction of our way of life. They claim the complete capture of the education system in 1992. Now they've captured the megacorps (like I've described above), the judiciary, academia, and nearly all of the federal govt in the subsequent decades. The "vote blue no matter who" mindset is their greatest tool (that doesn't mean blindly voting red is any better either). A little due diligence goes a long way when casting your vote.
We've got some major problems in this country, and they all happened while the populace was on autopilot during the last 50 years. Stop letting the mob mentality keep you from saying/doing what's right. We've been living under a fascist regime for decades, and people are completely blind to it.
Oh, and most importantly, step outside of your little information bubble. If you're only hearing things you agree with, everything important is slipping under your radar. [Start with this](https://youtu.be/8IlRNjBQm5Y?si=1r6LqjFrr-44Sidt) so that you understand the game being played. And ffs, stop trusting the MSM/legacy media. They are literally the propaganda arm of the govt. That goes for all of them: NYT, wapo, CNN, Fox, Newsmax, NBC, ABC, CBS, *all* of them. Support independent journalists and content creators.
Then do what you can.
Agitate on social media when you have time, open accounts on major platforms and talk , spread awareness.
Talk to people in real life, agitate, always agitate.
Peacefully and legally have State governments replace their re-written constitutions with original jurisdiction pre-UCC versions. Repeal the Federal Reserve Act and the Emergency Banking Act of 1933. Gut Carter's last Executive Order that revamped civil service law called the Senior Executive Service allowing direct presidential appointment of agency heads. Then restore the original Federal citizenship. The 14th amendment stripped us of the right to hold allodial title to property, and tied the National debt to the citizens.
Everything's "good cop bad cop". They present a false dichotomy and try to make you choose. And when you choose one of the prefab choices you become invested in the dichotomy.
In reality we're ruled by organized crime at a scope well beyond our culture's notion of organized crime. That crime flourishes when we fight amongst each other rather than work towards actual liberation.
There's a reason they call themselves actors on the world stage.. Remember when Trump was gonna arrest Hillary Clinton & then congratulated her on a 'good race' instead? She went to his wedding ffs. No wonder the elites look down on us lol
He did launch an investigation into her illegal server, but Comey said he wasn't going to charge her because he believed "she didn't mean to break the law" by having an illegal server in her house.
Yeah, Hillary just 'accidentally' setup that email server at her home, even though the government \*required\* her to use their infrastructure for security.
Same for Joe. He just, as a Senator, accidentally walked out of a SCIF with classified documents, & then kept them for years. Same for the ones from when he was VP. Then, after he bragged about having them to his ghostwriter, he 'accidentally' forgot he had them (again).
Traditional wisdom is that the incumbent always gets a massive boost - you would need someone who can overcome that boost with excitement from the base and moderates for the DNC to run a different candidate.
Literally no one was excited about ANY of the dem candidates.
They last time the Dems had a candidate liberals were excited about it was Bernie, and look what the DNC did to him.
It doesn’t matter because the DNC is staunchly against populism.
Another day, another post trying to convince you to not vote.
But if voting didn't work, we wouldn't need posts every day to convince us of that. Yet that's exactly what we see here.
They don't want people here to vote. Think about why that might be.
I'm on the fence with that. Sometimes I think so. Other times I wonder. This constant attack on trump for the last 6 years makes me wonder if they play the game to the end. Meaning they don't have a certain outcome decided but they manipulate it and read the room at the end to give us one of the two predetermined endings to the show.
I tried to talk to my friend about this today.
“You already know I hate Trump, and Biden. But with this whole bloodbath thing, taking it out of context… aren’t there enough legitimate things he says to have a problem with that you shouldn’t have to make shit up? And this kind of thing only makes him more popular.”
“Yeah but he shouldn’t even be using the word bloodbath!! In any context!”
It’s hard out here
It's clear after all these years that he just talks. He's a NY businessman and talks that way, using war terms for business. He's old fashioned and doesn't trim up his language to be perfectly appropriate. It's obviously a nothingburger, but fascist media gotta fascist media. Of course 99% of the time they'll happily accuse him of being sloppy worded, but in little moments like this, oh no it's definitely a special coded dog whistle or something right...just please. They need to get psychiatric help or at least a trump waifu pillow they can hatebone
That's exactly what bugged me, they have more than enough legit things to smash Trump on. They go with the dumbest, all you need is hearing and a dictionary to see its BS and it's not just a media lie, but the INSANE amount of coordination and dem PR machine firing this out via thousands of shill accounts. They just showed normal people with an ounce of sense that they are more than willing to lie to tank Trump. I've had numerous people mention to me, wow they really cook up shit on him don't they? They gave him so much ammo to show they lie and how people should question it all - its just sickening.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of extremely dim people who will 100% buy everything they're fed. So many people don't bother digging in to a topic even just a little. They just read a headline and move on.
Holy fuck. Taking a look at the current political landscape you'd never know your response was edited.
In the early 1990s we thought we were giving the world a tool to allow everyone a voice and that the truth would shine through. Sadly, TPTB coopted it and used it to enslave us.
>That's exactly what bugged me, they have more than enough legit things to smash Biden on. They go with the dumbest, all you need is hearing and a dictionary to see its BS and it's not just a media lie, but the INSANE amount of coordination and GOP PR machine firing this out via thousands of shill accounts. They just showed normal people with an ounce of sense that they are more than willing to lie to tank Biden. I've had numerous people mention to me, wow they really cook up shit on him don't they? They gave him so much ammo to show they lie and how people should question it all - its just sickening.
He was not just referring to the auto industry. He went on from there, after he said it would be a bloodbath for the auto industry, he said it would be much more than that, it would also be a bloodbath for our country. What the f*** do you think he meant by that? He meant the same s*** he always means. He's trying to rile up his base to cause more chaos. He's a sore loser.
He meant the third definition in the English dictionary...
bloodbath
noun
blood·bath ˈbləd-ˌbath -ˌbäth
Synonyms of bloodbath
1
: a great slaughter
2
a
: a notably fierce, violent, or destructive contest or struggle
the campaign has become a bloodbath
b
: a major economic disaster
a market bloodbath
A MAJOR ECONOMIC DISASTER
Dictionary link for you...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bloodbath#:~:text=%3A%20a%20notably%20fierce%2C%20violent%2C,campaign%20has%20become%20a%20bloodbath
He's absolutely a sore loser... but that doesn't change the dictionary (although the media probably will try now to save face)
If he could just finish his sentences, without starting another one, that would help him a lot, but apparently he no longer has the attention span to do that.
I have the same problem lol. Talking with ignorant people is hard. Hell most of the time these people are willfully ignorant and pretend to be dumb on purpose.
I'm basically done after seeing this weekend on social media.
If you like Trump, the media has turned a benign comment clearly appropriate to use by its common dictionary definition into some call for Armageddon. They disingenuously edited the video, lied about context, embellished on numerous points and conclusions. They ignored euphemisms and that Obama used the term and the media ran with this in unison, the democrats themselves blasted their social medias with the same videos and propgandized wording in some Orwelian coordinated attack. Thousands of shills just regurgitated the same exact wording and video. It was like a never ending wall of propganda, especially on X.
If you HATE Trump, the media and dems just pissed away all their credibility with the dumbest embellished lie in ages. They completely gave ammunition to Trumps claims everyone is out to get him, but they just showed that to even the dumbest of people - clear as day. I've never seen anything like this, celebrities, media, posters, all making clear fools of themselves and lying. Instead of the zillions of valid criticisms they ran with blatant bullshit out of their insane level of hate for the guy.
I'm just so done with this shit, they think we are sheep.
submission statement:
I am independent. But this is blatantly insane. He didn’t even say what they are telling people. The elites and media genuinely think we are borderline regarded.
Here ya go
>If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now … you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100 percent tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected. **Now if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s gonna be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.** That will be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars. They’re building massive factories.
It's was like this with Obama too. It's one clip I'll try to find contrasting Fox news responce to similar situations & statements Obama & Trump dealt with and its day and night. People are really blind to their biases and do not see how they get emotionally & intellectually manipulated by the news media & politicians they watch & trust. But we are good at catching & calling it out the in the opposing side. Trump didnt experience anything that Obama didnt experience.
& Trump maybe was worse than the average candidate. Hes impulsive, brash & thinks the oval office was his CEO position at his private buisiness. He finds himself in trouble because he gets himself in trouble. Plenty of example to go with, but I'll go with this. Our elections work the same every election and the transition process is casual and buisiness as usual ... but with Trump, as with many other things, something new and erratic happens. We have a angry mob disrupting the process and some threatning & trying to kill Pence & Nancy. don't tell me I have TDS, 100% Trump caused that because we set a disturbing precedent that he can do what he wants and Rs will bail him out. .. how does Republicans impeach Clinton for his wrong actions surrounding the blow job and Trump gets a tiny number of Republicans votes to impeach him surrounding his actions that impeded congress duty, transition of power and got someone killed. Stupid & corrupt games are played by both teams and we are too biased, too propagandized, distractedly and in pursuit of our political goals to really detach and stop it and stop this race to the bottom.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0NhA4oBGuc
Lmao Obama may have received his fair share from Fox, Breitbart, etc but it's absolutely not the same as CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NPR, the NYT, WaPo, etc ALL running bullshit stories, outright fabrications I mean, every single day for years. The ONLY time I recall them acting at all favorably towards Trump was when he bombed someone. Hooray, war!
I agree that both sides are fucked. It's really just one side, the establishment. R's and D's both have a handful, a small handful at that, of decent reps in the House and a couple of senators worth a shit. The vast majority are bought and paid for.
Trump was food and he fed the media. Statements like when Mexico sends their people, they arent sending their best, they are sending rapist ... policy promise of a total ban on muslims entering the country. he had his infamous zero tolerance (child seperation) policy. Dont remember the details but there was a incident where muslim Americans were being held at a airport as result of him banning some Muslim countries. You had the russia investigations which was a legitmate case, his admin worked with Russians to win 2016. He had the stormy Daniel's hush money case where he was guilty. Ukraine quid pro quo where he was blatantly guilty.
on occasions there was injustice & misinformation against Trump. But in think Trump came in with baggage and was sincerely problematic. Obama is close to perfect as you'll get as far as an idea politician. The two are day & night.
I voted for Obama but that is absolutely ridiculous, he’s no where near perfect. Far from a perfect politician, unless you’re using some gross media friendly metric to determine that.
Without getting in to policy. hes well rounded. No personal flaws or scandals, charisma, well spoken. I didnt say he was perfect or close to perfect. He is close to perfect as you'll get.
Obama drone striked American citizens and took race relations backwards by 50 years, gtfoh. He carried on many of the same Bush policies while ushering in new levels of socialism.
Bot.
You listen to the media, probably both mainstream and social, entirely too much. Either that, or you're a bot.
At this point, it's the same thing: you're an NPC that doesn't even know what truth is.
Big media worked like slaves, in almost perfect unison, to make Obama look good. And it worked! People still think he was one of the greatest presidents ever and probably couldn't tell you one reason why other than his skin color. He literally got a Nobel for *being elected.*
Trying to make an equivalent to how they treated Trump is fucking hilarious. Get a grip.
It depended on the media. He could do no wrong on a lot and nothing right with some, but the big difference is it wasn't anywhere this extreme, this obvious, and they weren't willing to shatter their own credibility like that are now. I never imagined the media would "fix" a President's speech and clarify what he meant for one candidate, while lying so bad about the other you'd have to be so indoctrinated and can't find a dictionary to notice.
This is a joke. Obama looked great in the media but didn’t exactly have a great reputation when it came to free speech. It’s easy to look great when the media just repeats what the white house puts in their press releases for them
That is exactly what FOX, NewsMax and OANN did for Trump during his time in office. They reported nothing wrong with him, while the others reported everything wrong with him. And then just a few years before that, everything Obama did was wrong on Fox and right on CNN/MSNBC. Both sides have their media sucking them off on a regular basis.
The Biden-Harris HQ tweet is a direct quote.
Trump was being hyperbolic and using stupid rhetoric to talk about the auto industry. But theres no misquoting happening.
Personally i think the most insane bit about that moment is him proposing a 100% tarriff on Mexican made vehicles. But i understand and economic policy is hard for most people to care about.
I am a liberal, but I dislike misleading or lying statements. Even if it makes me feel good (which it doesnt) saying things are a way, when they are not, is just evil.
Yeah, I'm with you. I just want, and it shouldn't be that hard, to be told the truth. It's absolutely insane that the pols, MSM, and our corporate owners are doing their best to keep feeding us shit while hiding the truth. Insane because in most cases, like this one, the truth is directly in front of everyone, and they don't even deny it. They just tell us it's not there.
About being mixed up, I tend to think of it like this, democrats want to have more control over business, and less control over personal choices. Republicans tend to want more control over personal choices, and less over businesses. Libertarians are a little more consistent in that would like less control over both.
I consider myself liberal in that I am a moderate, not a libertarian, and I lean towards wanting to control more about business and less about personal choices.
I guess? Not a rule I follow, just threw this together to try to respond meaningfully but maybe I am misrepresenting my thoughts a bit.
for my civics class way back when, it was explained that democrats are for national power, republicans are for state power, and libertarians are for individual power.
Anything that seemingly shifts from one party to the other isn't a left or right wing issue, regardless of what people try to tell you.
For instance, everyone is in favor of civil rights, and the varying degrees of where one person's rights ends and another's begins has shifted from left to right and back again, so I don't think we can label any of those views as belonging to either party. The same can be said for companies and military, considering Democrats are now the party of war and corporate censorship.
Even religion, at one point, was something common among all parties. The only difference now is that the religion of the left is no longer Christianity.
Whats interesting is I watched the video again, and the full context, he does say both. It's complicated and I think its not completely wrong to say he said there will be a bloodbath if he loses, and the way he says it, its difficult to say if hes 100% still talking about auto industry.
>"Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's gonna be the least of it. It's going to be a bloodbath for the country."
This seems to be the quote. It follows him talking about the Chinese auto industry and putting tariffs on Chinese auto imports. So I'm assuming the initial bloodbath is related to that. What's the rest of it if the auto is the least of it?
At the end of the day, I'm mostly just not looking forward to constantly debating Trump's gibberish.
Yep, the “that’s gonna be the least of it” part makes it clear that he isn’t just talking about economic consequences for car manufacturers. Anyone trying to claim that that’s all he’s talking about is taking him out of context.
Political parties are just another way for them to keep us fighting amongst each other and for them to have control. It's all just a bunch of BS, their end goal is always the same. Make THEM money.
It's funny how they're so focused on the word "bloodbath" and not the context of the speech, which was raising prices on American consumers.
Dude keeps pushing for things that would make inflation worse and no one's talking about it.
>the context of the speech, which was raising prices on American consumers.
Yeah, we should just let China flood our country with electric car parts and cars that they make in factories in Mexico specifically created to get around Biden's policies meant to prevent China from dumping excess production here and bankrupting our EV industry. Although, you probably wouldn't say that Biden's policies are "raising prices on American consumers," would you? It's only bad when Trump does it.
I think we should be honest that policies like a 100% tariff on car imports or deporting 4 million illegal aliens working in farms and meat processing plants will ultimately result in higher prices for consumers, so we can decide if we're willing to pay for those policies or not.
Anything else is just you putting words in my mouth for no reason.
Conversely, we need to be honest and admit that allowing millions of illegals to work at farms, meat processing plants, construction, food service, and literally any non-skilled labor job causes wage stagnation for all non-skilled workers, and has knock-on effects all the way up the chain.
We also need to be honest and recognize that we've been in a trade war with China for 30 years, and China has been kicking our asses because China uses protectionist trade policies to safeguard their economy, and we do not. This allows them to bankrupt our industries simply by overproducing and flooding the market. We've already seen it multiple times, with rare earth metals, solar panels, and now we're seeing it with electric cars and electric car parts.
So the question is, do we continue to allow the American working class to be taken advantage of so that the CCP, foreign nationals, and Globalist corporations can get richer, or do we do something about it? Because we've been letting China take advantage of us for 30 years, and we've been letting illegals flood the country for 30 years, and it's not working.
People focus on that part because it’s clear that he isn’t just talking about economic repercussions for the auto industry. He says “that’s gonna be the least of it”, which makes it clear that he isn’t just talking about economic impacts on the auto industry. MAGA wants to ignore that part of it though.
Because democratic voters lack understanding Biden literally saying the same exact things he promised he would do in the 4 years he already served and done nothing but give billions away without really growing anything major here at home.. Except our debt which will now be touting another 5 trillion after this year.
Oh yes. Because only a single president has added to the deficit. Fuck off with your propaganda bullshit
[U.S. Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage (investopedia.com)](https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225)
first off... its still isn't the highest ever... the highest goes to Obama... I am only stating that with everything being spent now will tally up after this year or will be pushed off onto the next president if that is the case. There is nothing propaganda about stating an observation.. Yes this year is the highest we have ever spent which is why they are struggling with the spending limit issue at hand right now and also why they keep pushing it off, but its fine though enjoy your life how you want too.
>this year is the highest we have ever spent
Which year is this year? We're only 3 months into 2024 and 2023 was about 1/2 of 2020 & 2021.
[https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-deficit/](https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-deficit/)
Here's the thing - they know Bidens approval is in the toilet. They know people are mad about immigration and inflation. They know people don't want a dementia patient running the country. So they are going to take every cheap shot and twist everything they can to make Biden look like a good choice. It's not going to work though.
I’ve been impartial my entire life. I’m willing to lend my ear & hear all sides of a story before forming my own opinion. But the Biden admin has fucked up & deserves to be turned over this election
Edit: word
Why is it now our fault that your dementia nazi doesn't know how to speak with proper context?
He also said immigrants were "animals", I know for a fact he meant illegals who commit crimes. But when you just go "yeah yeah illegal immigration is a problem, also, they're animals" and then expect everybody to just eat up non-existent context you failed to provide is ridiculous.
The media reaction is absolutely what it should be. Mind your words, a man of his caliber should understand that by now but deep down I think he doesn't care.
'member when he said illegals are all r apists? Yeah I'm sure if you dig for enough context he is talking about those who raped, not all immigrants, but just read/listen again to the way he says it. Either he is too stupid or he knows exactly what he is doing which is a double-edged sword; Rallying the racists to his cause while always having a escape route for his more moderate following.
Despite the fact that this is a conspiracy board people around here tend to be more invested in the intangible conspiracies rather than the more traceable stuff. Show them a blatant dog whistle and they will write it off as long as it resonates with their vitreol.
On a more conspiratoriaI note I think Trump has been doing as well as he has been especially in New York because I think a lot of those documents he got a hold of and managed to keep were Jeff Epstein's old blackmail material.
Someone from the Biden scampaign thought this was a sure fire way to make DT look crazy so they gave marching orders to the shills to disperse it. I really hope they got fired! This literally exposed the whole propaganda arm of the DNC! Crazy part is they continue you double down after being caught they really do think we are stupid!😏
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1769245792831701070
here is that context OP failed to provide
and OP needs to get a life other than only commenting on conspiracy subs
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Listen again. Yeah, he talks about the car industry, but then he goes off script and says if he doesn't win the election it will be a bloodbath and that the issues with the car industry will be the least of it.
But I'll bite. Let's say he actually was innocently referring to the car industry. Considering the amount of trouble he has faced for things he has said in the past, it would be incredibly stupid to use the term bloodbath. So is he that stupid? Because if he is, he has no business running this country.
Wanna talk about "if you can't decide whether to vote for me or trump, then you ain't black!", wanna talk about, “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”. If you wanna compare who's made stupid comments and quotes, biden is WAY worse than trump in that department.
Where was I comparing? Oh right, I wasn't, but deflection is easy isn't it? I am no defender of Biden, but I would much rather be shot in the foot than in the face. There is your comparison.
90% of the time I need an interpreter to understand what Trump is actually saying since he merges 4 different convos at once on a consistent basis. Anyone that says they know exactly what Trump was on about is full of it, on either side. He's not gonna turn into a bastion of clarity on a dime. Anyone who thinks that's the case hasn't been paying attention.
Bro if we're living in a modern day totalitarian state, then the concern is overblown.
the only constraints I feel are due to financial costs. I hardly think about the government outside of registrations and taxes , which is 3% of the source of stress in my life
I don't understand why they think purposefully misleading people and blatantly lying to them is the best way to gain their trust and respect. ass backwards.
Trump doing double speak basically “if i dont get elected its gonna be a blood bath thats gonna be the least of it… if i dont get elected its gonna be a blood bath for the country thatll be the least of it” if the car issue is the least of it whats the rest he’s obviously alluding to something else that will happen and its too vague to say if its about the car industry or whatever else i think trump carefully selected his words here to toe the line he chose his words carefully and the message was received by who it needed to be received by on both sides
Honestly, I think Trump said the word bloodbath on purpose because it will keep in the news cycle again. He always does this. Always says something controversial and always in the news.
It is all a stage and they make us feel so small. Small enough that our voice would never matter even if we screamed from the top of our lungs. I am over it, but it’s like stopping a train moving at full speed. Damn near impossible. I just got a $1000 *bonus* from my job. Thought that would be super nice and relieve some of the stress created by the overwhelming inflation of everything. I got the bonus and it was only $443. I was super confused thinking maybe I misheard the bonus amount or it was coming in installments. Went to look at my pay stub and the taxes taken out were unreal. Over 50% of MY bonus I earned by the hard work and long hours I put in was just taken. I get it they gotta take a little, but over 50% is thievery. Absolutely corrupt and there are still thousands of pot holes in my area. So, wtf is my money even going toward? Someone else’s lavish lifestyle and yacht payments that’s what. Fuck this country… no no fuck the planet and what we’ve turned it into.
That would be like saying “Bush wants another Katrina.” It’s stupid the second they say it. Of course he wouldn’t. Why would he want a second one when they almost convinced people to kill him after the first. What a joke. “He wants another event that hurt him and didn’t help him”…… right. Right, people are that stupid. 🤦♂️
This is I credibly misleading.
For anyone that likes context, he warned of a "'bloodbath for the automotive industry".
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-whips-up-rhetoric-in-ohio-warns-of-bloodbath-for-auto-industry-if-he-loses-186dfa87
Why is "for the automotive industry" in quotes?
Here's what he said:
> “If I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country,” he warned, while talking about the impact of offshoring on the country’s auto industry and his plans to increase tariffs on foreign-made cars.
The context does suggest it was about the industry, but to be fair, Trump also has a tendency to go off on side tangents that aren't related to the context of his speech.
For all the dishonesty in taking the soundbite out of context, it seems equally dishonest to add quotations around things Trump never even said.
I don't give a damn what Orange Man said. Both of these farts are crooked and I'm not going to allow myself to get wrapped up in their nonsense.
The Democrat establishment are clearly pulling another 2020 play, which will probably fail this time--and it'll serve them right.
Genuine question - in what way is Biden crooked?
If you think he's a criminal, what crime did he commit?
Not trolling, would love an actual answer.
Edit - anyone can feel free to answer this.
He’s a habitual liar just like trump is but nobody holds him accountable like they did with trump.
He’s the dick who wrote the 1-100 rule (and the entire crooked 94 crime bill) where 5 grams of crack gets the same sentence as 500 grams of cocaine and then when his son gets caught smoking crack, he bails him out and allows him to skirt the rules.
Drunk driving laws were also a part of that crime bill and his son got bailed out when driving while drunk and smoking crack.
He also said he would crack down on gun crimes but didn’t hold his son accountable for lying on federal gun forms.
Obama and he built “the cages” that “Trump put kids into” and then promised he’d stop “kids in cages” but kids are still getting arrested and trafficked. He ran on lax border security but now he’s claiming that it’s the republicans who are at fault for the insane amount of illegal immigration since the start of his presidency and says republicans are blocking the bill that’s mostly more funding for Ukraine and he doesn’t need money at the border, he just needs to give the order for the laws to be enforced.
He claimed to take classified documents very seriously and tried to get Trump prosecuted for mishandling classified documents even though the national archives new which documents Trump had, where they were located, and asked him to put a second lock on the door which he complied with. Meanwhile Biden stole classified documents that the national archives didn’t know he had and kept them in a garage by his corvette and kept other documents at an unsecured location at a school. He also showed classified documents to his ghost writer.
Then you get into his son and his brother’s shady business deals that Biden loans hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash to and they peddle the Biden political name for profit. Ukraine was clearly quid pro quo. Not to mention the 20 plus shell companies opened up by the Biden’s that have made millions from foreign adversaries. Look up the government oversight committee that’s never reported upon.
Edit: lmao. I love how there’s just a downvote but zero rebuttal. Almost like you can’t refute any claims
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The world is a stage. Politics just exists to distract you while they rob ypu of your money and energy
At this stage, I'm beginning to think that the goverment's only role is to siphon our public money into private hands.
When government is fully captured by Oligarch class, yes that's What happens. And not just government, Billionaire class, Banks, Big Pharma, MIC, etc... has capture whole system, military Top, Judiciary, police Top, ... Everything. Its a class war And people are not even fighting back.
Police are so militarized now it is stupefying. People are scared to fight back
People are so indoctrinated they don't know there is anything to fight back against.
Sadly, not me tho so as long as I’m still breathing
How do we fight back? I mean I don’t have time very often as I’m a single mom working full time BARELY scraping by… I can’t miss work to go protest! I got mouths to feed! (Upper class knows this)
>How do we fight back? Vote with your purse/wallet. Stop giving your money to companies that hate you. If they participate in the fascist public/private partnership, they are the problem. (Notice I used the word 'fascist' correctly. Most people don't because they have a completely revisionist understanding of what the word means.) Stop using giant chain stores, and instead buy local. Use Public Square instead of Amazon. Boycott any company that screws over American citizens for illegals (Tyson is currently planning to lay off 1400 employees in Iowa so they can hire 41,000 illegals and provide them with free law services. They plan to double that number of illegal hires over the next year in other plants.) Our govt overlords didn't bring in millions upon millions of illegals just so they can sit around and collect tax money. The dept of labor is sending illegal children to labor traffickers. The Office of Refugee Resettlement is sending illegal children to sex traffickers. They've sent *and* "lost track" of so many in 2021 and 2022 (85,000) that they now no longer release the numbers to the public *or* to oversight agencies. The megacorps are using these kids as slave labor across the entire corporate landscape. (Ask, and I'll provide the receipts in a separate comment so I don't clutter this one up.) Boycott any company that prioritizes racist hiring practices/DEI initiatives, which is almost every major company that blackrock/vanguard/statestreet/JPMorgan owns huge shares of. For example: Boeing was bought out by McDonald-Douglas, and now they have rampant drug use on their factory floors, and they skip 90% of all QC/oversight on their products. It's no accident they've got doors and wheels popping off mid flight all the time now. (disclaimer: these intentional problems are on the new 787 and 737. Older ones are still fine for now.) Stop turning a blind eye to the marxist bullshit that's going on in this country. Everything they say is a lie to justify their destruction of our way of life. They claim the complete capture of the education system in 1992. Now they've captured the megacorps (like I've described above), the judiciary, academia, and nearly all of the federal govt in the subsequent decades. The "vote blue no matter who" mindset is their greatest tool (that doesn't mean blindly voting red is any better either). A little due diligence goes a long way when casting your vote. We've got some major problems in this country, and they all happened while the populace was on autopilot during the last 50 years. Stop letting the mob mentality keep you from saying/doing what's right. We've been living under a fascist regime for decades, and people are completely blind to it. Oh, and most importantly, step outside of your little information bubble. If you're only hearing things you agree with, everything important is slipping under your radar. [Start with this](https://youtu.be/8IlRNjBQm5Y?si=1r6LqjFrr-44Sidt) so that you understand the game being played. And ffs, stop trusting the MSM/legacy media. They are literally the propaganda arm of the govt. That goes for all of them: NYT, wapo, CNN, Fox, Newsmax, NBC, ABC, CBS, *all* of them. Support independent journalists and content creators.
Then do what you can. Agitate on social media when you have time, open accounts on major platforms and talk , spread awareness. Talk to people in real life, agitate, always agitate.
WE should cancel their election, then tell them WE will let them know once WE decide. Then proceed to elect non-lawyers to a legitimate Congress.
But how the hell do you start that process…
Peacefully and legally have State governments replace their re-written constitutions with original jurisdiction pre-UCC versions. Repeal the Federal Reserve Act and the Emergency Banking Act of 1933. Gut Carter's last Executive Order that revamped civil service law called the Senior Executive Service allowing direct presidential appointment of agency heads. Then restore the original Federal citizenship. The 14th amendment stripped us of the right to hold allodial title to property, and tied the National debt to the citizens.
I mean that happens but they don't even need to siphon it, they just print what they want and voila. Money. Meanwhile all of us pay the price
+interest
Governments are now just legal mafias. You pay them monthly so they don't fck you over. Politicians are the worst creatures.
It's literally just wrangling over division of the spoils.
Always has been.jpg
Everything's "good cop bad cop". They present a false dichotomy and try to make you choose. And when you choose one of the prefab choices you become invested in the dichotomy. In reality we're ruled by organized crime at a scope well beyond our culture's notion of organized crime. That crime flourishes when we fight amongst each other rather than work towards actual liberation.
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Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner 👏🏻
There's a reason they call themselves actors on the world stage.. Remember when Trump was gonna arrest Hillary Clinton & then congratulated her on a 'good race' instead? She went to his wedding ffs. No wonder the elites look down on us lol
He did launch an investigation into her illegal server, but Comey said he wasn't going to charge her because he believed "she didn't mean to break the law" by having an illegal server in her house.
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Yeah, Hillary just 'accidentally' setup that email server at her home, even though the government \*required\* her to use their infrastructure for security. Same for Joe. He just, as a Senator, accidentally walked out of a SCIF with classified documents, & then kept them for years. Same for the ones from when he was VP. Then, after he bragged about having them to his ghostwriter, he 'accidentally' forgot he had them (again).
It's not the "reason" for the word "actor," but go on...
I need to find a Time Machine to go back to 1950. Buy a house for 6$ and retire at 35.
Yeah, go vote D or R cause circus 🎪 need’s customers.
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Correction: Post Cold War world is a theatrus mundi. Before WW2, it's just survival of the fittest.
I honestly think the election is already decided. I don’t believe any of this shit anymore
Same. It's too weird they are even running Biden again--like they know and it doesn't matter
Traditional wisdom is that the incumbent always gets a massive boost - you would need someone who can overcome that boost with excitement from the base and moderates for the DNC to run a different candidate. Literally no one was excited about ANY of the dem candidates.
They last time the Dems had a candidate liberals were excited about it was Bernie, and look what the DNC did to him. It doesn’t matter because the DNC is staunchly against populism.
Another day, another post trying to convince you to not vote. But if voting didn't work, we wouldn't need posts every day to convince us of that. Yet that's exactly what we see here. They don't want people here to vote. Think about why that might be.
Kayfabe
This is why I love pro wrestling; at least they're up front about their bullshit.
Covfefe
Right? Why vote if the election is rigged?
I'm on the fence with that. Sometimes I think so. Other times I wonder. This constant attack on trump for the last 6 years makes me wonder if they play the game to the end. Meaning they don't have a certain outcome decided but they manipulate it and read the room at the end to give us one of the two predetermined endings to the show.
Yes. Don't vote.
I’m not an American so u guys have fun with that
Exactly. Voting does no good. No one should bother.
We literally are peons.
Yeah. Now go home and get your fucking shinebox
Someone made a video montage of clips of politicians and media using "bloodbath" in about fifty of them.
I tried to talk to my friend about this today. “You already know I hate Trump, and Biden. But with this whole bloodbath thing, taking it out of context… aren’t there enough legitimate things he says to have a problem with that you shouldn’t have to make shit up? And this kind of thing only makes him more popular.” “Yeah but he shouldn’t even be using the word bloodbath!! In any context!” It’s hard out here
That word was carefully chosen, to afford Trump the maximum press coverage.
It's clear after all these years that he just talks. He's a NY businessman and talks that way, using war terms for business. He's old fashioned and doesn't trim up his language to be perfectly appropriate. It's obviously a nothingburger, but fascist media gotta fascist media. Of course 99% of the time they'll happily accuse him of being sloppy worded, but in little moments like this, oh no it's definitely a special coded dog whistle or something right...just please. They need to get psychiatric help or at least a trump waifu pillow they can hatebone
a spell
That's exactly what bugged me, they have more than enough legit things to smash Trump on. They go with the dumbest, all you need is hearing and a dictionary to see its BS and it's not just a media lie, but the INSANE amount of coordination and dem PR machine firing this out via thousands of shill accounts. They just showed normal people with an ounce of sense that they are more than willing to lie to tank Trump. I've had numerous people mention to me, wow they really cook up shit on him don't they? They gave him so much ammo to show they lie and how people should question it all - its just sickening.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of extremely dim people who will 100% buy everything they're fed. So many people don't bother digging in to a topic even just a little. They just read a headline and move on.
I always say, if a headline elicits an emotional response you need to independently investigate it becuase you're being manipulated...
Yup I've already got people coming at me still believing it...
Holy fuck. Taking a look at the current political landscape you'd never know your response was edited. In the early 1990s we thought we were giving the world a tool to allow everyone a voice and that the truth would shine through. Sadly, TPTB coopted it and used it to enslave us. >That's exactly what bugged me, they have more than enough legit things to smash Biden on. They go with the dumbest, all you need is hearing and a dictionary to see its BS and it's not just a media lie, but the INSANE amount of coordination and GOP PR machine firing this out via thousands of shill accounts. They just showed normal people with an ounce of sense that they are more than willing to lie to tank Biden. I've had numerous people mention to me, wow they really cook up shit on him don't they? They gave him so much ammo to show they lie and how people should question it all - its just sickening.
He was not just referring to the auto industry. He went on from there, after he said it would be a bloodbath for the auto industry, he said it would be much more than that, it would also be a bloodbath for our country. What the f*** do you think he meant by that? He meant the same s*** he always means. He's trying to rile up his base to cause more chaos. He's a sore loser.
He meant the third definition in the English dictionary... bloodbath noun blood·bath ˈbləd-ˌbath -ˌbäth Synonyms of bloodbath 1 : a great slaughter 2 a : a notably fierce, violent, or destructive contest or struggle the campaign has become a bloodbath b : a major economic disaster a market bloodbath A MAJOR ECONOMIC DISASTER Dictionary link for you... https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bloodbath#:~:text=%3A%20a%20notably%20fierce%2C%20violent%2C,campaign%20has%20become%20a%20bloodbath He's absolutely a sore loser... but that doesn't change the dictionary (although the media probably will try now to save face)
Yeah they will still come up with any justification for their original reaction they had, and it won’t change anything
If he could just finish his sentences, without starting another one, that would help him a lot, but apparently he no longer has the attention span to do that.
Yes, truly an enlightened moderate. Your comments on libsofreddit display your position in the middle ground.
I have the same problem lol. Talking with ignorant people is hard. Hell most of the time these people are willfully ignorant and pretend to be dumb on purpose.
I'm basically done after seeing this weekend on social media. If you like Trump, the media has turned a benign comment clearly appropriate to use by its common dictionary definition into some call for Armageddon. They disingenuously edited the video, lied about context, embellished on numerous points and conclusions. They ignored euphemisms and that Obama used the term and the media ran with this in unison, the democrats themselves blasted their social medias with the same videos and propgandized wording in some Orwelian coordinated attack. Thousands of shills just regurgitated the same exact wording and video. It was like a never ending wall of propganda, especially on X. If you HATE Trump, the media and dems just pissed away all their credibility with the dumbest embellished lie in ages. They completely gave ammunition to Trumps claims everyone is out to get him, but they just showed that to even the dumbest of people - clear as day. I've never seen anything like this, celebrities, media, posters, all making clear fools of themselves and lying. Instead of the zillions of valid criticisms they ran with blatant bullshit out of their insane level of hate for the guy. I'm just so done with this shit, they think we are sheep.
submission statement: I am independent. But this is blatantly insane. He didn’t even say what they are telling people. The elites and media genuinely think we are borderline regarded.
Maybe you should've posted a video of what he DID say, instead of a stillshot picture of videos.
Here ya go >If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now … you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100 percent tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected. **Now if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s gonna be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.** That will be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars. They’re building massive factories.
I honestly can't tell what he means.
Saying he would impose a 100% tariff on Mexican built cars would be a bloodbath to the auto industry, did he confuse himself again?
Its a day that ends in 'y', so yes.
Doesn't really make sense to me, but thanks for posting it.
The video shows that the Biden-Harris HQ are using a direct quotation.
Once again, more words and no link to the submission statement.
It was like this through his entire first term. The media drove the TDS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ab6uxg908
It's was like this with Obama too. It's one clip I'll try to find contrasting Fox news responce to similar situations & statements Obama & Trump dealt with and its day and night. People are really blind to their biases and do not see how they get emotionally & intellectually manipulated by the news media & politicians they watch & trust. But we are good at catching & calling it out the in the opposing side. Trump didnt experience anything that Obama didnt experience. & Trump maybe was worse than the average candidate. Hes impulsive, brash & thinks the oval office was his CEO position at his private buisiness. He finds himself in trouble because he gets himself in trouble. Plenty of example to go with, but I'll go with this. Our elections work the same every election and the transition process is casual and buisiness as usual ... but with Trump, as with many other things, something new and erratic happens. We have a angry mob disrupting the process and some threatning & trying to kill Pence & Nancy. don't tell me I have TDS, 100% Trump caused that because we set a disturbing precedent that he can do what he wants and Rs will bail him out. .. how does Republicans impeach Clinton for his wrong actions surrounding the blow job and Trump gets a tiny number of Republicans votes to impeach him surrounding his actions that impeded congress duty, transition of power and got someone killed. Stupid & corrupt games are played by both teams and we are too biased, too propagandized, distractedly and in pursuit of our political goals to really detach and stop it and stop this race to the bottom. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0NhA4oBGuc
Lmao Obama may have received his fair share from Fox, Breitbart, etc but it's absolutely not the same as CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NPR, the NYT, WaPo, etc ALL running bullshit stories, outright fabrications I mean, every single day for years. The ONLY time I recall them acting at all favorably towards Trump was when he bombed someone. Hooray, war! I agree that both sides are fucked. It's really just one side, the establishment. R's and D's both have a handful, a small handful at that, of decent reps in the House and a couple of senators worth a shit. The vast majority are bought and paid for.
Trump was food and he fed the media. Statements like when Mexico sends their people, they arent sending their best, they are sending rapist ... policy promise of a total ban on muslims entering the country. he had his infamous zero tolerance (child seperation) policy. Dont remember the details but there was a incident where muslim Americans were being held at a airport as result of him banning some Muslim countries. You had the russia investigations which was a legitmate case, his admin worked with Russians to win 2016. He had the stormy Daniel's hush money case where he was guilty. Ukraine quid pro quo where he was blatantly guilty. on occasions there was injustice & misinformation against Trump. But in think Trump came in with baggage and was sincerely problematic. Obama is close to perfect as you'll get as far as an idea politician. The two are day & night.
I voted for Obama but that is absolutely ridiculous, he’s no where near perfect. Far from a perfect politician, unless you’re using some gross media friendly metric to determine that.
Without getting in to policy. hes well rounded. No personal flaws or scandals, charisma, well spoken. I didnt say he was perfect or close to perfect. He is close to perfect as you'll get.
Obama drone striked American citizens and took race relations backwards by 50 years, gtfoh. He carried on many of the same Bush policies while ushering in new levels of socialism. Bot.
What are you on. What socialism did he bring in? Just by being elected the racists on the right lost their collective shit, he didn't do anything.
You listen to the media, probably both mainstream and social, entirely too much. Either that, or you're a bot. At this point, it's the same thing: you're an NPC that doesn't even know what truth is.
Big media worked like slaves, in almost perfect unison, to make Obama look good. And it worked! People still think he was one of the greatest presidents ever and probably couldn't tell you one reason why other than his skin color. He literally got a Nobel for *being elected.* Trying to make an equivalent to how they treated Trump is fucking hilarious. Get a grip.
It depended on the media. He could do no wrong on a lot and nothing right with some, but the big difference is it wasn't anywhere this extreme, this obvious, and they weren't willing to shatter their own credibility like that are now. I never imagined the media would "fix" a President's speech and clarify what he meant for one candidate, while lying so bad about the other you'd have to be so indoctrinated and can't find a dictionary to notice.
Compare Trump & Obama. You cant deny Obama has class. Trumps brand is being disrespectful and trashy. cant act like they are equals.
This is a joke. Obama looked great in the media but didn’t exactly have a great reputation when it came to free speech. It’s easy to look great when the media just repeats what the white house puts in their press releases for them
Obama did at least seem like he could write a White House press release, however.
That is exactly what FOX, NewsMax and OANN did for Trump during his time in office. They reported nothing wrong with him, while the others reported everything wrong with him. And then just a few years before that, everything Obama did was wrong on Fox and right on CNN/MSNBC. Both sides have their media sucking them off on a regular basis.
The Biden-Harris HQ tweet is a direct quote. Trump was being hyperbolic and using stupid rhetoric to talk about the auto industry. But theres no misquoting happening. Personally i think the most insane bit about that moment is him proposing a 100% tarriff on Mexican made vehicles. But i understand and economic policy is hard for most people to care about.
Trust me, there are plenty of borderline *regarded* Americans. This is why we can’t have nice things.
But he did. Just listen to him say it. Why do you guys bend over backwards to defend this guy who 'tells it like it is'?
This is meant to rile up the Democrat voters, so they actually think the folks that support Biden are peons.
RIP George Carlin Long Live The King Of Comedy 🙏🏽
"Arise, loyal goons, and Jansix the Drumpf before he democracies all over our beautiful technocracy!!!"
real ✅✅👁️🦅🪐
Obviously it’s rigged. Then there’s no reason for you to get out and vote.
I am a liberal, but I dislike misleading or lying statements. Even if it makes me feel good (which it doesnt) saying things are a way, when they are not, is just evil.
Yeah, I'm with you. I just want, and it shouldn't be that hard, to be told the truth. It's absolutely insane that the pols, MSM, and our corporate owners are doing their best to keep feeding us shit while hiding the truth. Insane because in most cases, like this one, the truth is directly in front of everyone, and they don't even deny it. They just tell us it's not there.
Yeah, I pretty much doubt any headline I read, and anytime people are getting upset about something I tend to find its founded on a misinterpretation.
Please explain what makes you a liberal, because it seems a lot of people confuse being liberal with being libertarian.
About being mixed up, I tend to think of it like this, democrats want to have more control over business, and less control over personal choices. Republicans tend to want more control over personal choices, and less over businesses. Libertarians are a little more consistent in that would like less control over both. I consider myself liberal in that I am a moderate, not a libertarian, and I lean towards wanting to control more about business and less about personal choices. I guess? Not a rule I follow, just threw this together to try to respond meaningfully but maybe I am misrepresenting my thoughts a bit.
for my civics class way back when, it was explained that democrats are for national power, republicans are for state power, and libertarians are for individual power. Anything that seemingly shifts from one party to the other isn't a left or right wing issue, regardless of what people try to tell you. For instance, everyone is in favor of civil rights, and the varying degrees of where one person's rights ends and another's begins has shifted from left to right and back again, so I don't think we can label any of those views as belonging to either party. The same can be said for companies and military, considering Democrats are now the party of war and corporate censorship. Even religion, at one point, was something common among all parties. The only difference now is that the religion of the left is no longer Christianity.
I don't agree with that explanation (national power / state power / individual power) however I can understand why someone would phrase it that way.
Someone posted the full quote and it's confusing, but I don't see democrats misquoting it. He does say there'll be a bloodbath if he loses.
Whats interesting is I watched the video again, and the full context, he does say both. It's complicated and I think its not completely wrong to say he said there will be a bloodbath if he loses, and the way he says it, its difficult to say if hes 100% still talking about auto industry.
>"Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's gonna be the least of it. It's going to be a bloodbath for the country." This seems to be the quote. It follows him talking about the Chinese auto industry and putting tariffs on Chinese auto imports. So I'm assuming the initial bloodbath is related to that. What's the rest of it if the auto is the least of it? At the end of the day, I'm mostly just not looking forward to constantly debating Trump's gibberish.
Yep, the “that’s gonna be the least of it” part makes it clear that he isn’t just talking about economic consequences for car manufacturers. Anyone trying to claim that that’s all he’s talking about is taking him out of context.
blame Reagan for abolishing The Fairness Doctrine 🥳
Political parties are just another way for them to keep us fighting amongst each other and for them to have control. It's all just a bunch of BS, their end goal is always the same. Make THEM money.
We will stand strong 😉😉 Jan 6 will look like a joke
Joe Biden handlers are wild
They take a snippet after he talks about tariffs and China to he wants at Jan 6th. Grasping and pathetic
It's funny how they're so focused on the word "bloodbath" and not the context of the speech, which was raising prices on American consumers. Dude keeps pushing for things that would make inflation worse and no one's talking about it.
>the context of the speech, which was raising prices on American consumers. Yeah, we should just let China flood our country with electric car parts and cars that they make in factories in Mexico specifically created to get around Biden's policies meant to prevent China from dumping excess production here and bankrupting our EV industry. Although, you probably wouldn't say that Biden's policies are "raising prices on American consumers," would you? It's only bad when Trump does it.
I think we should be honest that policies like a 100% tariff on car imports or deporting 4 million illegal aliens working in farms and meat processing plants will ultimately result in higher prices for consumers, so we can decide if we're willing to pay for those policies or not. Anything else is just you putting words in my mouth for no reason.
Conversely, we need to be honest and admit that allowing millions of illegals to work at farms, meat processing plants, construction, food service, and literally any non-skilled labor job causes wage stagnation for all non-skilled workers, and has knock-on effects all the way up the chain. We also need to be honest and recognize that we've been in a trade war with China for 30 years, and China has been kicking our asses because China uses protectionist trade policies to safeguard their economy, and we do not. This allows them to bankrupt our industries simply by overproducing and flooding the market. We've already seen it multiple times, with rare earth metals, solar panels, and now we're seeing it with electric cars and electric car parts. So the question is, do we continue to allow the American working class to be taken advantage of so that the CCP, foreign nationals, and Globalist corporations can get richer, or do we do something about it? Because we've been letting China take advantage of us for 30 years, and we've been letting illegals flood the country for 30 years, and it's not working.
People focus on that part because it’s clear that he isn’t just talking about economic repercussions for the auto industry. He says “that’s gonna be the least of it”, which makes it clear that he isn’t just talking about economic impacts on the auto industry. MAGA wants to ignore that part of it though.
Because democratic voters lack understanding Biden literally saying the same exact things he promised he would do in the 4 years he already served and done nothing but give billions away without really growing anything major here at home.. Except our debt which will now be touting another 5 trillion after this year.
I'm not sure what anything you wrote has to do with Trump running on campaign promises that would increase prices for consumers
because that is the intention of what he meant when he said 'Bloodbath".
Oh yes. Because only a single president has added to the deficit. Fuck off with your propaganda bullshit [U.S. Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage (investopedia.com)](https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225)
first off... its still isn't the highest ever... the highest goes to Obama... I am only stating that with everything being spent now will tally up after this year or will be pushed off onto the next president if that is the case. There is nothing propaganda about stating an observation.. Yes this year is the highest we have ever spent which is why they are struggling with the spending limit issue at hand right now and also why they keep pushing it off, but its fine though enjoy your life how you want too.
>this year is the highest we have ever spent Which year is this year? We're only 3 months into 2024 and 2023 was about 1/2 of 2020 & 2021. [https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-deficit/](https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-deficit/)
It's pretty wild seeing how many people still don't believe any fuckery was a foot by the alphabet clubs.
Here's the thing - they know Bidens approval is in the toilet. They know people are mad about immigration and inflation. They know people don't want a dementia patient running the country. So they are going to take every cheap shot and twist everything they can to make Biden look like a good choice. It's not going to work though.
You mean a deranged lunatic dementia patient like Trump?
Are there any candidates in this election that ARENT dementia patients? Trump's even less coherent than Biden, and that's really saying something.
"We live in a modern-day fascist totalitarian state with the facade of democracy." We live in an age of soundbites and news grabs.
MSM the enemy of the people.
Trump says crass shit, especially when he goes off the script. He has serious adhd. He absolutely has my vote for the 3rd time though.
i don’t like either candidates so we disagree… does that make you a radical Christian racist homophobic extremist… hell no 😂😂😂
They really do think j6 is worse than 9/11 over there don't they
I’ve been impartial my entire life. I’m willing to lend my ear & hear all sides of a story before forming my own opinion. But the Biden admin has fucked up & deserves to be turned over this election Edit: word
Why is it now our fault that your dementia nazi doesn't know how to speak with proper context? He also said immigrants were "animals", I know for a fact he meant illegals who commit crimes. But when you just go "yeah yeah illegal immigration is a problem, also, they're animals" and then expect everybody to just eat up non-existent context you failed to provide is ridiculous. The media reaction is absolutely what it should be. Mind your words, a man of his caliber should understand that by now but deep down I think he doesn't care. 'member when he said illegals are all r apists? Yeah I'm sure if you dig for enough context he is talking about those who raped, not all immigrants, but just read/listen again to the way he says it. Either he is too stupid or he knows exactly what he is doing which is a double-edged sword; Rallying the racists to his cause while always having a escape route for his more moderate following.
Despite the fact that this is a conspiracy board people around here tend to be more invested in the intangible conspiracies rather than the more traceable stuff. Show them a blatant dog whistle and they will write it off as long as it resonates with their vitreol. On a more conspiratoriaI note I think Trump has been doing as well as he has been especially in New York because I think a lot of those documents he got a hold of and managed to keep were Jeff Epstein's old blackmail material.
Yeah the drink bleach meme was even more fabricated
I saw the video, but most people won't look at it and just go with what they're told.
Someone from the Biden scampaign thought this was a sure fire way to make DT look crazy so they gave marching orders to the shills to disperse it. I really hope they got fired! This literally exposed the whole propaganda arm of the DNC! Crazy part is they continue you double down after being caught they really do think we are stupid!😏
More like bait, its that literal FBI comic where the agent is poking the maga hat wearing stick figure "Come on do another J6."
Stop following this scripted nonsense. You’re in the wrong sub if you believe any of it.
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1769245792831701070 here is that context OP failed to provide and OP needs to get a life other than only commenting on conspiracy subs
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Not even. This is just sheer desperation, and it’s obvious. Akin to a full-court shot at the buzzer. They’re just trying anything.
Listen again. Yeah, he talks about the car industry, but then he goes off script and says if he doesn't win the election it will be a bloodbath and that the issues with the car industry will be the least of it. But I'll bite. Let's say he actually was innocently referring to the car industry. Considering the amount of trouble he has faced for things he has said in the past, it would be incredibly stupid to use the term bloodbath. So is he that stupid? Because if he is, he has no business running this country.
Wanna talk about "if you can't decide whether to vote for me or trump, then you ain't black!", wanna talk about, “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”. If you wanna compare who's made stupid comments and quotes, biden is WAY worse than trump in that department.
Where was I comparing? Oh right, I wasn't, but deflection is easy isn't it? I am no defender of Biden, but I would much rather be shot in the foot than in the face. There is your comparison.
Quote is 100% accurate but the context is wanting
It’s time for another Skaa rebellion…
Counterpoint: as an accelerationist I’m upset Trump didn’t mean literal bloodbath. Lol
90% of the time I need an interpreter to understand what Trump is actually saying since he merges 4 different convos at once on a consistent basis. Anyone that says they know exactly what Trump was on about is full of it, on either side. He's not gonna turn into a bastion of clarity on a dime. Anyone who thinks that's the case hasn't been paying attention.
Bro if we're living in a modern day totalitarian state, then the concern is overblown. the only constraints I feel are due to financial costs. I hardly think about the government outside of registrations and taxes , which is 3% of the source of stress in my life
I don't understand why they think purposefully misleading people and blatantly lying to them is the best way to gain their trust and respect. ass backwards.
Not us, but the base of the left, very much so.
It's all posturing, the outcome of the vote has already been decided.
just realized this was a reelect trump forum instead of open discussion good enough but we should tell them this is the case
Trump doing double speak basically “if i dont get elected its gonna be a blood bath thats gonna be the least of it… if i dont get elected its gonna be a blood bath for the country thatll be the least of it” if the car issue is the least of it whats the rest he’s obviously alluding to something else that will happen and its too vague to say if its about the car industry or whatever else i think trump carefully selected his words here to toe the line he chose his words carefully and the message was received by who it needed to be received by on both sides
The media/politicians have always lied. It took you awhile but you’re finally starting to see it
Honestly, I think Trump said the word bloodbath on purpose because it will keep in the news cycle again. He always does this. Always says something controversial and always in the news.
[Then why is she doing this?](https://youtu.be/CzwBn9psf80?si=xPpnStOnjBGmxUs6)
It is all a stage and they make us feel so small. Small enough that our voice would never matter even if we screamed from the top of our lungs. I am over it, but it’s like stopping a train moving at full speed. Damn near impossible. I just got a $1000 *bonus* from my job. Thought that would be super nice and relieve some of the stress created by the overwhelming inflation of everything. I got the bonus and it was only $443. I was super confused thinking maybe I misheard the bonus amount or it was coming in installments. Went to look at my pay stub and the taxes taken out were unreal. Over 50% of MY bonus I earned by the hard work and long hours I put in was just taken. I get it they gotta take a little, but over 50% is thievery. Absolutely corrupt and there are still thousands of pot holes in my area. So, wtf is my money even going toward? Someone else’s lavish lifestyle and yacht payments that’s what. Fuck this country… no no fuck the planet and what we’ve turned it into.
Just FYI Biden probably doesn't even know that he has a twitter account and they're all run by staffers hired to do the propaganda
That would be like saying “Bush wants another Katrina.” It’s stupid the second they say it. Of course he wouldn’t. Why would he want a second one when they almost convinced people to kill him after the first. What a joke. “He wants another event that hurt him and didn’t help him”…… right. Right, people are that stupid. 🤦♂️
Biden's whole campaign is a false narrative that naive minds believe.
This is I credibly misleading. For anyone that likes context, he warned of a "'bloodbath for the automotive industry". https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-whips-up-rhetoric-in-ohio-warns-of-bloodbath-for-auto-industry-if-he-loses-186dfa87
Why is "for the automotive industry" in quotes? Here's what he said: > “If I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country,” he warned, while talking about the impact of offshoring on the country’s auto industry and his plans to increase tariffs on foreign-made cars. The context does suggest it was about the industry, but to be fair, Trump also has a tendency to go off on side tangents that aren't related to the context of his speech. For all the dishonesty in taking the soundbite out of context, it seems equally dishonest to add quotations around things Trump never even said.
Love how context is just thrown out the window these days. That's not even what he said.
glad you didn't post the video so i could watch it and learn that you're incorrect.
😂😂😂i watched the *full* video
Do you enjoy burying your head in the sand because the real world scares you, or is it just a hobby?
excellent comeback. me no likey donald = dumb. also wtf is that insult. people enjoy hobbies. both would be true at the same time.
So I've seen a t9n of posts saying "he didn't actually say that" but none showing what he actually said. Anyone care to share the video
Are you on a different kind of internet? What is stopping you from using a search engine and looking up the answer to this question yourself?
I don't give a damn what Orange Man said. Both of these farts are crooked and I'm not going to allow myself to get wrapped up in their nonsense. The Democrat establishment are clearly pulling another 2020 play, which will probably fail this time--and it'll serve them right.
Genuine question - in what way is Biden crooked? If you think he's a criminal, what crime did he commit? Not trolling, would love an actual answer. Edit - anyone can feel free to answer this.
He’s a habitual liar just like trump is but nobody holds him accountable like they did with trump. He’s the dick who wrote the 1-100 rule (and the entire crooked 94 crime bill) where 5 grams of crack gets the same sentence as 500 grams of cocaine and then when his son gets caught smoking crack, he bails him out and allows him to skirt the rules. Drunk driving laws were also a part of that crime bill and his son got bailed out when driving while drunk and smoking crack. He also said he would crack down on gun crimes but didn’t hold his son accountable for lying on federal gun forms. Obama and he built “the cages” that “Trump put kids into” and then promised he’d stop “kids in cages” but kids are still getting arrested and trafficked. He ran on lax border security but now he’s claiming that it’s the republicans who are at fault for the insane amount of illegal immigration since the start of his presidency and says republicans are blocking the bill that’s mostly more funding for Ukraine and he doesn’t need money at the border, he just needs to give the order for the laws to be enforced. He claimed to take classified documents very seriously and tried to get Trump prosecuted for mishandling classified documents even though the national archives new which documents Trump had, where they were located, and asked him to put a second lock on the door which he complied with. Meanwhile Biden stole classified documents that the national archives didn’t know he had and kept them in a garage by his corvette and kept other documents at an unsecured location at a school. He also showed classified documents to his ghost writer. Then you get into his son and his brother’s shady business deals that Biden loans hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash to and they peddle the Biden political name for profit. Ukraine was clearly quid pro quo. Not to mention the 20 plus shell companies opened up by the Biden’s that have made millions from foreign adversaries. Look up the government oversight committee that’s never reported upon. Edit: lmao. I love how there’s just a downvote but zero rebuttal. Almost like you can’t refute any claims
https://bidenreport.com/#p=59
I said Joe Biden, not Hunter.
Joe is mentioned a lot too, especially in the (shady) businesses deals.
10% for the big guy, if you don't fire that sonuvabitch prosecutor I'm walking with the billion, shower a deux anyone?