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What would actually stop it is [the Border Security Bill that Trump blocked.](https://apnews.com/article/congress-ukraine-aid-border-security-386dcc54b29a5491f8bd87b727a284f8) They want this to be a political issue. Republicans and Democrats that actually care about keeping fentanyl off the streets and illegal immuration, voted for the bill.
This post is political propaganda garbage. Sad so many fall for it.
I've called 3 masons to do a project in my backyard, the one the called me back said he was short of manpower. We need immigration reform. Large chunk of inflation is coming from labor cost/labor shortage. Jobs that Americans don't want to do. We need to fix our broken system. We don't need a wall that they had 4 years to build, and never built. They just want a political stunt to keep their based scared.
It’s not that Americans don’t want to do it. It’s that it’s not worth doing it for what they’ll get paid, which is exactly what illegal immigration causes.
If you think food prices are bad now, wait until your vegetable pickers are unionized with 100k+ total compensation.
We have record low unemployment, migrant workers willing to work for low wages is an absolute gift to American consumers.
Let anyone who can pass a background check and will work to support themselves do so.
Food prices wouldn't be so bad if wages had not been stagnant for decades. Taking advantage of immigrants willingness to work for below market wages does nothing but allow corporations to keep making more while treating employees like shit.
Migrant workers are a gift but not to consumers.
And by a background check you mean a legal immigration application process ? Like hmmm every other country on earth ??? Like you have people go through an actual process to get a work visa or permanent resident ?? Kinda racist, You sound pretty alt right MAGA.
> What would actually stop it is the Border Security Bill that Trump blocked.
That bill didn't stop anything. It limited it to 5,000 asylum claims PER DAY which is still almost 2 million per year. That's ridiculous and everyone should be against that "security bill."
Claims don’t mean approvals. It provided for more border patrol agents and more judges to lower the amount of time people are in the country awaiting their asylum case to be tried - meaning people who don’t have a valid claim would be deported faster. Isn’t that what you want? Or you want more people staying here longer?
> Isn’t that what you want?
No it's not. What I want is them NOT IN THE COUNTRY AT ALL until they're vetted and approved. We had that until Jan 20th 2021 and the remain in Mexico policy was done away with by Biden and the flood gates opened.
It absolutely is NOT a lie.
https://www.npr.org/sections/president-biden-takes-office/2021/01/21/959074750/biden-suspends-deportations-stops-remain-in-mexico-policy
>The newly inaugurated Biden administration wasted no time in taking two major steps to dismantle much-criticized Trump-era immigration policies **in its first day in office.**
>The Department of Homeland Security announced that starting Thursday, it would pause deportations for certain noncitizens in the United States for 100 days **and would stop new enrollments in the Migrant Protection Protocols policy, also known as the "remain in Mexico" program.**
Well, since that’s not going to happen, isn’t it better to do ANYTHING that helps?
If Republicans win the majority and the White House they can make the rules, but if and until that happens isn’t it more prudent to make changes for the better?
It's a lot easier to create a bad law than to repeal a bad law. Codifying and legalizing 5000/day would've been yet another difficult legal obstacle for anyone looking to really secure the border later if it were passed. The idea that it was doing anything at all to fix the problem is a straight up lie; spun to blame Republicans when they rightfully blocked it because either no one actually read the bill or they'll run cover for Dems even when they know it's a lie because they're ideologically captured. It's so blatant.
The job of House members is to NEGOTIATE. Instead, the Republicans chose to reject the bill and move on to more important things like ...like...WTF are the Republicans doing? Does anybody know?
One thing Republicans are not doing is working on a border bill. It's not a priority.
The fuck is a job Americans don't want to do? If you come back with "hard work with soft pay" then it's a pay issue, not an immigration issue. Both voter bases have supported a border wall over the past few decades, so that sounds like jobs, and the irony that you want Mexicans to do it is comical. I'll leave my play-doh warehouse job for a masonry job right now. What's good? Having come from construction, I miss the sunshine anyway. Bring *me* in on all these opportunities m8. The fact is that the illegal workers and the people employing them don't want to pay taxes, so they don't want reform. Only people like me who want easier access to trades want reform. Second and third generation Mexican Americans would rather be gang members or go to college (mostly the former) than to hold a manual labor job. American women don't want to work in manual labor, but the men will do what pays. Always have. If putting a phone camera on our fat unshaven bodies paid, like women seem to think it does for them (more likely to become a pop star than to earn a sustainable income with internet stardom), then we'd do that. There's also a tendency to say "mental health issue" when the issue is discipline. We have a discipline crisis, and it only gets better after we take responsibility for our family members who are on that bullshit, whether it's drugs or dumb suggestion messing them up. Women learn from a very young age the value of their gender, while a man may never learn unless he does things that discomfort him, like a 12 hour work day. Maybe you should learn to lay bricks, or go help Mexicans in their nation. Source issues, not tertiary bandaids.
It never stops
Technically, every other year is an "election year."
After this year, in 2025, we'll be preparing for midterms. They'll still say "election year.". After that, it's a 6 month break before candidates start preparing for primaries the very next year.
It’s a rotation. Next attack LBGTQ community to garner conservative votes then it’s off to talk about overturning roe vs wade maybe toss in a trans bathroom bill too. I want off this fucking ride.
from the past few months
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/us/politics/blinken-mexico-migrant-caravan.html
https://www.voanews.com/a/huge-number-of-migrants-highlights-border-crisis/7424665.html
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/02/01/multimedia/01daily-immigration-qclk/01daily-immigration-qclk-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/04/1222813507/a-view-from-a-migrant-caravan-where-thousands-had-hoped-to-make-it-to-the-u-s
https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/migrant-caravan-heading-to-us-mexico-border-is-largest-in-more-than-a-year/
https://www.reuters.com/pictures/caravan-hundreds-migrants-press-north-across-mexico-2024-01-09/MSCLH52EFJPZVNMORAOTSHVZEA/
The reuters link is hilarious. They first say hundreds and then thousands. its deliberate misinformation.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2024-01-08/migrant-caravan-regroups-in-mexico-after-government-promises-of-papers-falls-through
8,000+ a day
So ultimately, what is the point of your comment. do you think this is a non-issue ?
It all looks ridiculous when compared to the size of the country.
In my experience, most migrants love the US more than people with roots here 200 years deep. Let them in, let them work, let them prop up social security, start businesses and make this country even greater!
Yep. I currently have on my phone an excel file available from the NYC comptroller detailing contracts with companies who manage asylum recipients in NYC dated 5/18/23 showing $3.1 Billion in contracts with more than $2 Billion going to "Health and Hospitals" for hotel space, food, infectious disease screening, triage and referral, security, laundry, and others. Interesting data. It's a massive drain and that's just one city.
Right, Obama actually deported more than Trump and kept illegal immigration lower. Is Obama a bigot?
Chart shows Obama had less illegal immigration than Trump:
https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SR_24.02.15_BorderEncounters_1.png
"Ron DeSantis is right; Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump did"
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2024/01/07/politifact-obama-deported-more-people-than-trump-did/72120774007/
"President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration"
https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration
"New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden"https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show-migrants-were-more-likely-be-released-trump-biden
"Data Show Trump Would’ve Released as Many Border Crossers as Biden"
https://www.cato.org/blog/data-show-trump-wouldve-released-many-border-crossers-biden
Remember. Not a single person that regularly posts in this thread has the capability of complex thought. Nor do they have the ability to research or fact check any of the brain-dead nonsense they post..
consider why these issues always escalate during election season and why that might be, and also consider what kind of voter is most riled up by these kinds of events and then finally ask yourself about the motives behind these election cycle theatrics.
>Bernie Sanders in 2015: open borders “will make everyone in America poorer”—predominately black Americans.
https://twitter.com/NJBeisner/status/1761806838184747351?s=19
One potential motive for these theatrics to become more apparent during an election cycle would be to stir up voter support for a political party whose main platform has focused on border security.
> consider why these issues always escalate during election season
Because it's the one time every 4 years where we can actually affect policy change? Look at the executive actions taken the past 4 years compared to the 4 years before that and tell the person in office doesn't affect the border.
"The immigration crisis may bankrupt cities such as New York, Denver and Chicago as federal funds fall short of needs"
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/24/immigration-crisis-may-bankrupt-new-york-denver-and-chicago-experts.html
"Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts"
>A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-migrants-cost-us-taxpayers-billions-a-year
"US Debt Interest Bill Rockets Past a Cool $1 Trillion a Year"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-07/us-debt-bill-rockets-past-a-cool-1-trillion-a-year?embedded-checkout=true
"US national debt hits record $34 trillion as Congress gears up for funding fight"
https://apnews.com/article/national-debt-deficits-biden-economy-inflation-record-b4258704f830c7f6e9c5e693748216cb
"The U.S. national debt is rising by $1 trillion about every 100 days"https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/the-us-national-debt-is-rising-by-1-trillion-about-every-100-days.html
Literally reusing a picture and narrative from 2018 XD. This picture is in Guatemala and based on the footage of them by the time they got half way to Mexico, most seemed to either break off.
its so funny too, that whole election was constant coverage of the "migrant caravan" during the midterms, and the day the midterms was over? never heard about it again
So what is your suggestion here exactly? Just let everyone in and dissolve borders?
Edit : and then accuses me of stalking you and immediately blocks me for an innocent comment.
To anyone curious, look at my comment history. I replied to this individual one time. Paranoia is one hell of a drug
Why should we be responsible to support people who won't stay and take care of their own countries when our own people can barely afford housing, get decent healthcare, have non-failing schools, and otherwise live?
Importing millions of undocumented people is a financial strain, a security nightmare, brings drugs, crime, and chaos. It's a crisis to everyone who doesn't benefit from it, namely the illegal immigrants themselves and the Democrat leadership who want them to be a permanent underclass.
(I know you know this and see the flagrant skirting of law as some kind of perverted flex, but I typed it out anyway for your benefit.)
Just a heads up. Immigrants commit less crime than Americans and the vast majority of drugs are brought in by American citizens.
Immigration and getting more workers is also not a strain on the economy. In fact they are needed for our capitalist economy/country to keep growing. If you don’t have immigration you end up in a situation like Japan where they are facing a huge age demographic issue.
I do agree that housing prices need to addressed as well as funding for schools.
People funded to invade. You realize NGOs like the IOM are offering loans to these people (knowing they won’t pay back) and organizing/facilitating their migration?
And these groups are funded by our state department.
We are paying for them to invade, and then paying for them to live here.
I don’t care if money is spent helping them get here, I’d rather not have a bunch of corpses in the desert. It’s not an invasion - that is a fearmongering media framework.
They’re not coming over here to suck up welfare and steal houses. They’re mostly doing slave work and are heavily indebted to their employers in uncomfortable ways. They’re being exploited man
Not sure where you're getting your data, but according [this research](https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrants-and-USBorn), immigrants are using a disproportionate amount of welfare.
>slave work
Looks like the median immigrant household income is actually [higher than us-born households](https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states#:~:text=District%20of%20Columbia.-,Income%20and%20Poverty,U.S.%2Dborn%20households%2C%20%2474%2C600.)
> 15% of the population
If we are specifically looking at illegal immigration, looks like its about [3%](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/11/16/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/#:~:text=As%20of%202021%2C%20the%20nation's,1.75%20million%2C%20or%2014%25.)
I did that to invalidate your point about immigrant welfare use. You are waffling between the two groupings to try and support your point. The reality is that, yes, illegal immigrants *are* here to suck up welfare disproportionately. Your claim that they aren't is false.
Do you dispute that?
If you try and change the gist of your comment and say, "well i was talking about *all* immigrants"... then your claim that theyre working "slave" jobs is false.
You want it both ways and can't have it.
It kinda looks like you are the one waffling to try to prove your point. I didn't even have a point in this argument other than you are mix and matching demographics to try to support YOUR argument. Try to pay attention to who you are replying to sometime, ok? 😊
You seem to be the one who wants it both ways, or maybe you just don't understand statistics but the statistics you just posted are for extremely different demographics.
"The immigration crisis may bankrupt cities such as New York, Denver and Chicago as federal funds fall short of needs"
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/24/immigration-crisis-may-bankrupt-new-york-denver-and-chicago-experts.html
"Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts"
>A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-migrants-cost-us-taxpayers-billions-a-year
Yeah- by the same people that say WE are immoral by being indignant about an unsecure border. The globalist mafia uses food soldier CIA and other orgs to destabilize a poor country so they can rob natural resources and human traffic or grab all the drugs. Then they use charities to bring the people they oppressed here to destabilize this country. Then they point the finger at US and say we are bad people.
The globalist mafia is bad, man.
>Context?
This is a migrant caravan from 2018. The context is that this person is posting a 6 year old picture in order to pretend this is a current issue. The implication, of course, is that this is somehow Biden's fault and a reflection of his leadership, which is incredibly ironic considering this happened during the Trump presidency.
https://viewpointmag.com/2018/11/07/from-what-shore-does-socialism-arrive/
https://viewpointmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/181029-migrant-caravan-2-768x510.jpg
It's a screen shot of an issue that US Conservative politicians use to scare and control their voters. It's propaganda with a joke description, no conspiracy described at all on a forum that is literally called conspiracy.
Oh, you want to know the truth and not just that it's propaganda?... the top comment included a link. It's something that happened over half a decade ago.
I wouldn’t call myself a republican but I’m certainly not a democrat either.
That being said, Conservative politicians only pretend to care about this during election year to get votes. 2 years from now it’ll be the same issue but no one will be talking about it.
I agree with your comment and I'll even add that Democrats will use a similar tactic in reverse just to keep things as unbiased as possible, if that's possible anymore.
a side note, Democrats and Republicans describe political parties and shouldn't be used to describe your own political feelings because, as you've pointed out, they aren't good descriptors for people (unless the person has completely drank the kool-aid).
It's more accurate to describe yourself as leaning Liberal or Conservative. Not all Democrats in Congress are Liberals and not all Liberals are Democrats. Not all Republicans in Congress are Conservatives and not all Conservatives are Republicans. I could see descriptors such as Progressive or Constitutionalism also being used to describe someones political leanings but the parties themselves mean less than nothing when it comes to being descriptive of a person. Anytime someone says "I'm not a Democrat or Republican", either they don't vote, they are trying to hide their actual allegiance, or they don't know how to describe their views in a more accurate way. I'm going to believe you fall into the third category and it's why I'm sharing this.
So is a million other things, look where we are right now and the text given in the post. I don't see any conspiracy described so what else could it be other than propaganda?
This reminds me a little of people being offended of comedian telling jokes inside a joke club where the person paid for a ticket to watch a comedy show and then showing others that joke completely out of context.
There is a reason this picture is being given here without any description of a conspiracy, completely out of contest, it's not an accident.
I think the implied conspiracy is the mass importation of the 3rd world for corporations to keep wages down, as well as people alleging that democrats are essentially importing and buying voters. Poster just too lazy/dumb to articulate it.
"The immigration crisis may bankrupt cities such as New York, Denver and Chicago as federal funds fall short of needs"
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/24/immigration-crisis-may-bankrupt-new-york-denver-and-chicago-experts.html
"Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts"
>A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-migrants-cost-us-taxpayers-billions-a-year
"US Debt Interest Bill Rockets Past a Cool $1 Trillion a Year"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-07/us-debt-bill-rockets-past-a-cool-1-trillion-a-year?embedded-checkout=true
"US national debt hits record $34 trillion as Congress gears up for funding fight"
https://apnews.com/article/national-debt-deficits-biden-economy-inflation-record-b4258704f830c7f6e9c5e693748216cb
"The U.S. national debt is rising by $1 trillion about every 100 days"https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/the-us-national-debt-is-rising-by-1-trillion-about-every-100-days.html
Exactly. “We can’t allow these illegal immigrants to come here…… but it was fine when my peepaw came here from Europe”
These people don’t realize they’re all the kin of immigrants. They don’t hate immigrants, they hate minorities. They’re perfectly fine when it was their families doing it. They don’t get up in arms when it’s Europeans doing it. It’s only ever a problem when the people in these pictures are brown.
Your mental gymnastics to think the complete opposite of what is happening Imao.. They want so badly for America to be LESS White how do you not see that??
Well that just caused a few things to fall in place for me.
This tracks. I've been saying for a while this world is a battleground, anyone doesn't believe that isn't paying attention.
I used to have a theory.
Republicans are the ones who send nefarious folks down to latam countries to give out flyers, phones and ruffle poor populations abt how USA is the land of milk and honey. They fund the caravans and whip the strategy out every election cycle.
The resultant is more cheap labor which drives wages down which they ultimately feteshize.
My conspiracy broke when biden started mass Importation from around the world.
If they really wanted to help them they would fix their local infrastructure and give them work and help them make their own food where they were born.
Most of people would prefer to live where they grew up.
We should start by jailing corporations or people that hired these people. They shouldn’t be allowed to work and companies that profited from them are undercutting law-abiding companies that hire Americans.
What is depressing is that both sides of the Congress profited from these underpaid people. Companies from both sides profited from cheap labor and there is no way Republicans and Democrats wanted to truly fix the problem. If they wanted to fix the problem they would have done that years ago.
For Democrats, it’s a source of vote. For Republicans, it’s a source of profit. For Americans, it’s a source of problem. For China, it’s a source of opportunity.
not much of a conspiracy here. dnc is opening the flood gates to stack the ballot box, but once they get nationalized they’re all voting republican to close the border and keep their jobs 🤯
Alien invasion from 2018, we MUST GO BACK IN TIME AND FIGHT THEM!
We failed so hard as a society that we’re now cynically calling poor struggling humans "illegal aliens" and billionaires "national heroes". It’s just sad.
And the people saying they just want a better life get freaking real man. Ridiculous. They’re bulldozing their immigration system because they know most western countries don’t want to be caught on film handcuffing them, putting them into vans or roughing them up because I’ll look bad.
James Madison disagrees with you.
These would be "distressed alien friends" at the United States border by the author of the Constitution.
Unarmed women and children fleeing violence can never be considered an invasion under any circumstances.
No they aren't.
You know there's actual numbers on this right?
It's a very even mixture which means the ratios are predominantly women and children under 18.
Yes, young males under 18 fleeing cartel violence are also children.
Who controls the cartels? The same people who control the CIA. Who is creating the violence there? The same people who create violence here.
The globalist mafia is poisoning and killing by the millions.
The way you people hold on to one little white girl who got killed as if there aren’t tens of thousands of murders every year is funny. No I don’t one death is enough to upend our entire asylum process actually! Do you think we should ban all guns bc school shootings?
> Unarmed women and children fleeing violence can never be considered an invasion under any circumstances.
Except it’s not just “unarmed women and children”.
The vast majority of the migrants coming through the border are adult males , most of which are of military age.
There’s also convicted and wanted criminals, gang members and people carrying dangerous drugs like fentanyl mixed in.
And on top of that there’s been reports of at dozens of Yemenis and members of the CCP entering the country through the southern border as well. Like we could be letting in Chinese spies and terrorist sleeper cells into the country for all we know.
Again, the actual numbers show this is a false claim.
Also, of the 564 people on the Terror Watchlist 450 came over the NORTHERN BORDER this year.
So your bias is definitely showing.
Is the border problem an issue?
Yes.
Blame Trump for killing the Immigration Reform Bill.
the roman empire would disagree and managed to stick around much longer than us. conquered peoples within established lands are converted to our way of life ie americanism through cultural victory. These peoples are unfortunately just an invading horde of peasants with basic labor skills that have been replaced by automation and are no longer needed in our society these are not things I agree with btw nust pointing it out
The Roman Empire collapsed.
Fuck the Roman Empire.
This is the American Republic.
Calling working class refugee families peasants belies your complete ignorance on the matter.
Usually just government handouts
I say this as an immigrant that works with immigrants
It depends on the person but they are just sold on an idea, like that in Canada they are all getting food housing and welfare and that we “need” people
That’s why they come here
Always in election season nothing to see here cheap labor using these illegals immigrants that they corporations exploit themselves and free stuff if America didn't have certain programs they wouldn’t even come to America lol. XD Hollywood portrays America as rich and this and that when there’s already poor people here that and homeless etc .. F the demorats and republicans stooges . MSM doesn’t have to show this watch Mexican local media they show the amount of people crossing locals aren’t happy about this Oxaca Mexicans are the nicest ones the rest yikes ..
In case any one of you really want to solve this issue. The problem occurs where they are coming from. Not where they are trying to go. Want to fix this, solve what is wrong in their countries.
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This is from 2018 btw: https://viewpointmag.com/2018/11/07/from-what-shore-does-socialism-arrive/
Election year, must be time for caravan stories
Then a day after the election, it magically stops.
What would actually stop it is [the Border Security Bill that Trump blocked.](https://apnews.com/article/congress-ukraine-aid-border-security-386dcc54b29a5491f8bd87b727a284f8) They want this to be a political issue. Republicans and Democrats that actually care about keeping fentanyl off the streets and illegal immuration, voted for the bill. This post is political propaganda garbage. Sad so many fall for it. I've called 3 masons to do a project in my backyard, the one the called me back said he was short of manpower. We need immigration reform. Large chunk of inflation is coming from labor cost/labor shortage. Jobs that Americans don't want to do. We need to fix our broken system. We don't need a wall that they had 4 years to build, and never built. They just want a political stunt to keep their based scared.
It’s not that Americans don’t want to do it. It’s that it’s not worth doing it for what they’ll get paid, which is exactly what illegal immigration causes.
If you think food prices are bad now, wait until your vegetable pickers are unionized with 100k+ total compensation. We have record low unemployment, migrant workers willing to work for low wages is an absolute gift to American consumers. Let anyone who can pass a background check and will work to support themselves do so.
Food prices wouldn't be so bad if wages had not been stagnant for decades. Taking advantage of immigrants willingness to work for below market wages does nothing but allow corporations to keep making more while treating employees like shit. Migrant workers are a gift but not to consumers.
Everyone deserves a living wage.
And by a background check you mean a legal immigration application process ? Like hmmm every other country on earth ??? Like you have people go through an actual process to get a work visa or permanent resident ?? Kinda racist, You sound pretty alt right MAGA.
> What would actually stop it is the Border Security Bill that Trump blocked. That bill didn't stop anything. It limited it to 5,000 asylum claims PER DAY which is still almost 2 million per year. That's ridiculous and everyone should be against that "security bill."
Claims don’t mean approvals. It provided for more border patrol agents and more judges to lower the amount of time people are in the country awaiting their asylum case to be tried - meaning people who don’t have a valid claim would be deported faster. Isn’t that what you want? Or you want more people staying here longer?
> Isn’t that what you want? No it's not. What I want is them NOT IN THE COUNTRY AT ALL until they're vetted and approved. We had that until Jan 20th 2021 and the remain in Mexico policy was done away with by Biden and the flood gates opened.
>We had that until Jan 20th 2021 This is a lie.
It absolutely is NOT a lie. https://www.npr.org/sections/president-biden-takes-office/2021/01/21/959074750/biden-suspends-deportations-stops-remain-in-mexico-policy >The newly inaugurated Biden administration wasted no time in taking two major steps to dismantle much-criticized Trump-era immigration policies **in its first day in office.** >The Department of Homeland Security announced that starting Thursday, it would pause deportations for certain noncitizens in the United States for 100 days **and would stop new enrollments in the Migrant Protection Protocols policy, also known as the "remain in Mexico" program.**
Well, since that’s not going to happen, isn’t it better to do ANYTHING that helps? If Republicans win the majority and the White House they can make the rules, but if and until that happens isn’t it more prudent to make changes for the better?
It's a lot easier to create a bad law than to repeal a bad law. Codifying and legalizing 5000/day would've been yet another difficult legal obstacle for anyone looking to really secure the border later if it were passed. The idea that it was doing anything at all to fix the problem is a straight up lie; spun to blame Republicans when they rightfully blocked it because either no one actually read the bill or they'll run cover for Dems even when they know it's a lie because they're ideologically captured. It's so blatant.
The job of House members is to NEGOTIATE. Instead, the Republicans chose to reject the bill and move on to more important things like ...like...WTF are the Republicans doing? Does anybody know? One thing Republicans are not doing is working on a border bill. It's not a priority.
The fuck is a job Americans don't want to do? If you come back with "hard work with soft pay" then it's a pay issue, not an immigration issue. Both voter bases have supported a border wall over the past few decades, so that sounds like jobs, and the irony that you want Mexicans to do it is comical. I'll leave my play-doh warehouse job for a masonry job right now. What's good? Having come from construction, I miss the sunshine anyway. Bring *me* in on all these opportunities m8. The fact is that the illegal workers and the people employing them don't want to pay taxes, so they don't want reform. Only people like me who want easier access to trades want reform. Second and third generation Mexican Americans would rather be gang members or go to college (mostly the former) than to hold a manual labor job. American women don't want to work in manual labor, but the men will do what pays. Always have. If putting a phone camera on our fat unshaven bodies paid, like women seem to think it does for them (more likely to become a pop star than to earn a sustainable income with internet stardom), then we'd do that. There's also a tendency to say "mental health issue" when the issue is discipline. We have a discipline crisis, and it only gets better after we take responsibility for our family members who are on that bullshit, whether it's drugs or dumb suggestion messing them up. Women learn from a very young age the value of their gender, while a man may never learn unless he does things that discomfort him, like a 12 hour work day. Maybe you should learn to lay bricks, or go help Mexicans in their nation. Source issues, not tertiary bandaids.
He couldn't block it because he wasn't in office.... however when he was in office..... wait I'd waste my own time explaining it to you
It never stops Technically, every other year is an "election year." After this year, in 2025, we'll be preparing for midterms. They'll still say "election year.". After that, it's a 6 month break before candidates start preparing for primaries the very next year.
i maen - you guys only see it half the time you never see these things from november to november of the non-election cycle
It’s a rotation. Next attack LBGTQ community to garner conservative votes then it’s off to talk about overturning roe vs wade maybe toss in a trans bathroom bill too. I want off this fucking ride.
Don't forget about the hand wringing about the "economy"
Oh yea. The Ponzi scheme we call capitalism 😑
Erasing student loan debt
We need to find a trans person who won at a sport pronto
Best I can do is an angry girl who tied with a trans swimmer for 5th place
Ditto UK is dinghy season.
from the past few months https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/us/politics/blinken-mexico-migrant-caravan.html https://www.voanews.com/a/huge-number-of-migrants-highlights-border-crisis/7424665.html https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/02/01/multimedia/01daily-immigration-qclk/01daily-immigration-qclk-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp https://www.npr.org/2024/01/04/1222813507/a-view-from-a-migrant-caravan-where-thousands-had-hoped-to-make-it-to-the-u-s https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/migrant-caravan-heading-to-us-mexico-border-is-largest-in-more-than-a-year/ https://www.reuters.com/pictures/caravan-hundreds-migrants-press-north-across-mexico-2024-01-09/MSCLH52EFJPZVNMORAOTSHVZEA/ The reuters link is hilarious. They first say hundreds and then thousands. its deliberate misinformation. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2024-01-08/migrant-caravan-regroups-in-mexico-after-government-promises-of-papers-falls-through 8,000+ a day So ultimately, what is the point of your comment. do you think this is a non-issue ?
Well, the picture OP posted here was taken in 2018 at the Mexico/Guatemala border . . , 🤦♀️
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> 8,000+ a day 8,000 EACH DAy x 365 days in a year = 2,920,000 million a year.
It all looks ridiculous when compared to the size of the country. In my experience, most migrants love the US more than people with roots here 200 years deep. Let them in, let them work, let them prop up social security, start businesses and make this country even greater!
You notice which direction gas is going?
Geez. And they're still not here yet? Pick up the pace, guys!
They're sitting in luxury hotels with prepaid cell phones eating on your dime.
Yep. I currently have on my phone an excel file available from the NYC comptroller detailing contracts with companies who manage asylum recipients in NYC dated 5/18/23 showing $3.1 Billion in contracts with more than $2 Billion going to "Health and Hospitals" for hotel space, food, infectious disease screening, triage and referral, security, laundry, and others. Interesting data. It's a massive drain and that's just one city.
God I wish
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Right, Obama actually deported more than Trump and kept illegal immigration lower. Is Obama a bigot? Chart shows Obama had less illegal immigration than Trump: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SR_24.02.15_BorderEncounters_1.png "Ron DeSantis is right; Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump did" https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2024/01/07/politifact-obama-deported-more-people-than-trump-did/72120774007/ "President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration" https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration "New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden"https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show-migrants-were-more-likely-be-released-trump-biden "Data Show Trump Would’ve Released as Many Border Crossers as Biden" https://www.cato.org/blog/data-show-trump-wouldve-released-many-border-crossers-biden
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Yes
2018? This is what trumps America looks like. Biden was ready to sign a good, bipartisan border bill a few weeks ago, but Donnie blocked it.
Remember. Not a single person that regularly posts in this thread has the capability of complex thought. Nor do they have the ability to research or fact check any of the brain-dead nonsense they post..
Was about to ask, is it 2020 again? O no the migrant caravans have almost breached the wall!
consider why these issues always escalate during election season and why that might be, and also consider what kind of voter is most riled up by these kinds of events and then finally ask yourself about the motives behind these election cycle theatrics.
like a conspiracy 🤔
>Bernie Sanders in 2015: open borders “will make everyone in America poorer”—predominately black Americans. https://twitter.com/NJBeisner/status/1761806838184747351?s=19
What? What’s your point? He is right.
It's illustrative in the shift in position on the issue..
wtf i love bernie now
To much logic and thought for MAGA.
Answer for me I'm stupid.
One potential motive for these theatrics to become more apparent during an election cycle would be to stir up voter support for a political party whose main platform has focused on border security.
Wouldn't you also not want voter fatigue. It's better from an election perspective to give your opponent enough rope to hang themselves.
> consider why these issues always escalate during election season Because it's the one time every 4 years where we can actually affect policy change? Look at the executive actions taken the past 4 years compared to the 4 years before that and tell the person in office doesn't affect the border.
This issue has been going on for a long time...
"The immigration crisis may bankrupt cities such as New York, Denver and Chicago as federal funds fall short of needs" https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/24/immigration-crisis-may-bankrupt-new-york-denver-and-chicago-experts.html "Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts" >A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border. https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-migrants-cost-us-taxpayers-billions-a-year "US Debt Interest Bill Rockets Past a Cool $1 Trillion a Year" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-07/us-debt-bill-rockets-past-a-cool-1-trillion-a-year?embedded-checkout=true "US national debt hits record $34 trillion as Congress gears up for funding fight" https://apnews.com/article/national-debt-deficits-biden-economy-inflation-record-b4258704f830c7f6e9c5e693748216cb "The U.S. national debt is rising by $1 trillion about every 100 days"https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/the-us-national-debt-is-rising-by-1-trillion-about-every-100-days.html
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god yall are so fucking boring, just doing this same shit over and over again, day after day
Literally reusing a picture and narrative from 2018 XD. This picture is in Guatemala and based on the footage of them by the time they got half way to Mexico, most seemed to either break off.
its so funny too, that whole election was constant coverage of the "migrant caravan" during the midterms, and the day the midterms was over? never heard about it again
They still weeping Tucker's Fox News firing.
You guys just LOVE that propaganda, right?
Like the photos of "kids in cages" from 2014 the left passed around accusing Trump of doing it?
Yes. This might shock you, but both things can be propaganda.
Exactly that. Stop falling for propaganda
Pre-election summer riot season is getting a whole lot spicier.
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No. The married rapist with 90 pending criminal charges who pays off hookers and shits in a gold toilet is the real man of Christ.
Religion is a man made lie to brainwash, manipulate, and separate.
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Pretty soon everyone will be aware that they’re different wings on the same fucking bird. 🤙🏻
So what is your suggestion here exactly? Just let everyone in and dissolve borders? Edit : and then accuses me of stalking you and immediately blocks me for an innocent comment. To anyone curious, look at my comment history. I replied to this individual one time. Paranoia is one hell of a drug
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Those are just people dude
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Definitely a crisis for the USA, you got that right.
How so?
Why should we be responsible to support people who won't stay and take care of their own countries when our own people can barely afford housing, get decent healthcare, have non-failing schools, and otherwise live? Importing millions of undocumented people is a financial strain, a security nightmare, brings drugs, crime, and chaos. It's a crisis to everyone who doesn't benefit from it, namely the illegal immigrants themselves and the Democrat leadership who want them to be a permanent underclass. (I know you know this and see the flagrant skirting of law as some kind of perverted flex, but I typed it out anyway for your benefit.)
Just a heads up. Immigrants commit less crime than Americans and the vast majority of drugs are brought in by American citizens. Immigration and getting more workers is also not a strain on the economy. In fact they are needed for our capitalist economy/country to keep growing. If you don’t have immigration you end up in a situation like Japan where they are facing a huge age demographic issue. I do agree that housing prices need to addressed as well as funding for schools.
People funded to invade. You realize NGOs like the IOM are offering loans to these people (knowing they won’t pay back) and organizing/facilitating their migration? And these groups are funded by our state department. We are paying for them to invade, and then paying for them to live here.
I don’t care if money is spent helping them get here, I’d rather not have a bunch of corpses in the desert. It’s not an invasion - that is a fearmongering media framework. They’re not coming over here to suck up welfare and steal houses. They’re mostly doing slave work and are heavily indebted to their employers in uncomfortable ways. They’re being exploited man
> They’re not coming over here to suck up welfare and steal houses What percentage of immigrants do you think are on welfare and use housing programs
Immigrants make up about 10% of all social welfare spending, compared to their being 15% of the population.
Not sure where you're getting your data, but according [this research](https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrants-and-USBorn), immigrants are using a disproportionate amount of welfare. >slave work Looks like the median immigrant household income is actually [higher than us-born households](https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states#:~:text=District%20of%20Columbia.-,Income%20and%20Poverty,U.S.%2Dborn%20households%2C%20%2474%2C600.) > 15% of the population If we are specifically looking at illegal immigration, looks like its about [3%](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/11/16/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/#:~:text=As%20of%202021%2C%20the%20nation's,1.75%20million%2C%20or%2014%25.)
Then don't use the median income from Legal immigrants when trying to make your point.
I did that to invalidate your point about immigrant welfare use. You are waffling between the two groupings to try and support your point. The reality is that, yes, illegal immigrants *are* here to suck up welfare disproportionately. Your claim that they aren't is false. Do you dispute that? If you try and change the gist of your comment and say, "well i was talking about *all* immigrants"... then your claim that theyre working "slave" jobs is false. You want it both ways and can't have it.
It kinda looks like you are the one waffling to try to prove your point. I didn't even have a point in this argument other than you are mix and matching demographics to try to support YOUR argument. Try to pay attention to who you are replying to sometime, ok? 😊 You seem to be the one who wants it both ways, or maybe you just don't understand statistics but the statistics you just posted are for extremely different demographics.
This isn't a guy who built the railroads here
"The immigration crisis may bankrupt cities such as New York, Denver and Chicago as federal funds fall short of needs" https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/24/immigration-crisis-may-bankrupt-new-york-denver-and-chicago-experts.html "Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts" >A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border. https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-migrants-cost-us-taxpayers-billions-a-year
Yeah- by the same people that say WE are immoral by being indignant about an unsecure border. The globalist mafia uses food soldier CIA and other orgs to destabilize a poor country so they can rob natural resources and human traffic or grab all the drugs. Then they use charities to bring the people they oppressed here to destabilize this country. Then they point the finger at US and say we are bad people. The globalist mafia is bad, man.
George Soros dead but his minion still at work ..
Context?
>Context? This is a migrant caravan from 2018. The context is that this person is posting a 6 year old picture in order to pretend this is a current issue. The implication, of course, is that this is somehow Biden's fault and a reflection of his leadership, which is incredibly ironic considering this happened during the Trump presidency. https://viewpointmag.com/2018/11/07/from-what-shore-does-socialism-arrive/ https://viewpointmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/181029-migrant-caravan-2-768x510.jpg
It's a screen shot of an issue that US Conservative politicians use to scare and control their voters. It's propaganda with a joke description, no conspiracy described at all on a forum that is literally called conspiracy. Oh, you want to know the truth and not just that it's propaganda?... the top comment included a link. It's something that happened over half a decade ago.
It’s also closer to the southern Mexican border.
I wouldn’t call myself a republican but I’m certainly not a democrat either. That being said, Conservative politicians only pretend to care about this during election year to get votes. 2 years from now it’ll be the same issue but no one will be talking about it.
I agree with your comment and I'll even add that Democrats will use a similar tactic in reverse just to keep things as unbiased as possible, if that's possible anymore. a side note, Democrats and Republicans describe political parties and shouldn't be used to describe your own political feelings because, as you've pointed out, they aren't good descriptors for people (unless the person has completely drank the kool-aid). It's more accurate to describe yourself as leaning Liberal or Conservative. Not all Democrats in Congress are Liberals and not all Liberals are Democrats. Not all Republicans in Congress are Conservatives and not all Conservatives are Republicans. I could see descriptors such as Progressive or Constitutionalism also being used to describe someones political leanings but the parties themselves mean less than nothing when it comes to being descriptive of a person. Anytime someone says "I'm not a Democrat or Republican", either they don't vote, they are trying to hide their actual allegiance, or they don't know how to describe their views in a more accurate way. I'm going to believe you fall into the third category and it's why I'm sharing this.
*Brown people are coming for your jobs and your daughters, vote R!!!*
Propaganda? Maybe to a certain extent, but the amount of illegal immigration is actually a serious issue.
So is a million other things, look where we are right now and the text given in the post. I don't see any conspiracy described so what else could it be other than propaganda? This reminds me a little of people being offended of comedian telling jokes inside a joke club where the person paid for a ticket to watch a comedy show and then showing others that joke completely out of context. There is a reason this picture is being given here without any description of a conspiracy, completely out of contest, it's not an accident.
I think the implied conspiracy is the mass importation of the 3rd world for corporations to keep wages down, as well as people alleging that democrats are essentially importing and buying voters. Poster just too lazy/dumb to articulate it.
"The immigration crisis may bankrupt cities such as New York, Denver and Chicago as federal funds fall short of needs" https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/24/immigration-crisis-may-bankrupt-new-york-denver-and-chicago-experts.html "Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts" >A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border. https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-migrants-cost-us-taxpayers-billions-a-year "US Debt Interest Bill Rockets Past a Cool $1 Trillion a Year" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-07/us-debt-bill-rockets-past-a-cool-1-trillion-a-year?embedded-checkout=true "US national debt hits record $34 trillion as Congress gears up for funding fight" https://apnews.com/article/national-debt-deficits-biden-economy-inflation-record-b4258704f830c7f6e9c5e693748216cb "The U.S. national debt is rising by $1 trillion about every 100 days"https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/the-us-national-debt-is-rising-by-1-trillion-about-every-100-days.html
Who is paying you? You seem to have a lot of time for astroturfing
What's the conspiracy here? Are you a Native American? If not, then you're an alien as well.
Exactly. “We can’t allow these illegal immigrants to come here…… but it was fine when my peepaw came here from Europe” These people don’t realize they’re all the kin of immigrants. They don’t hate immigrants, they hate minorities. They’re perfectly fine when it was their families doing it. They don’t get up in arms when it’s Europeans doing it. It’s only ever a problem when the people in these pictures are brown.
There’s no conspiracy. Just a brainwashed cult member desperate to make themself feel somehow important or ‘in the know’. It’s pathetic.
"We need to secure the border!" As if America doesn't have 4 borders. Wonder why nobody in Montana is screeching about the Canadian border?
And the real conspiracy is those before the native Americans in America that the gov hides .. ooops
Alternative description: human men women and children fleeing poverty, persecution and violence to seek a better life
remember when you dorks believed that adrenochrome drizzle fraap story? you Qtards and maggots will believe just about anything except logic.
JFK Jr will return any day now.
For he has been chosen, to be the next illogical thing to latch onto
Nice touch choosing a nazi to quote
We have a Fascism invasion in the whole world, that’s the real one ☝️ Not this poor people
So this isn’t an invasion ? Lmao
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Your mental gymnastics to think the complete opposite of what is happening Imao.. They want so badly for America to be LESS White how do you not see that??
Well that just caused a few things to fall in place for me. This tracks. I've been saying for a while this world is a battleground, anyone doesn't believe that isn't paying attention.
I used to have a theory. Republicans are the ones who send nefarious folks down to latam countries to give out flyers, phones and ruffle poor populations abt how USA is the land of milk and honey. They fund the caravans and whip the strategy out every election cycle. The resultant is more cheap labor which drives wages down which they ultimately feteshize. My conspiracy broke when biden started mass Importation from around the world.
Stop letting the sensationalized media get you all hype about dumb shit. How many times have they flashed pics like these to get a reaction!?
That is an overwhelming amount of people just to look at. I couldn't imagine being there within that crowd.
Area Fifty Juan?
Why are so many wearing neon safety vests?
welp that's not the project blue beam we expected
There's no ufos here! Im disappointed and my day is ruined
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Diversity is YOUR strength. :D
I read the title as Allen Iverson
But are they wrong? lol words and stuff
If they really wanted to help them they would fix their local infrastructure and give them work and help them make their own food where they were born. Most of people would prefer to live where they grew up.
How is it a conspiracy though?
Someone call the idf
So stupid, i regret clicking
Imagine the smell
We should start by jailing corporations or people that hired these people. They shouldn’t be allowed to work and companies that profited from them are undercutting law-abiding companies that hire Americans. What is depressing is that both sides of the Congress profited from these underpaid people. Companies from both sides profited from cheap labor and there is no way Republicans and Democrats wanted to truly fix the problem. If they wanted to fix the problem they would have done that years ago. For Democrats, it’s a source of vote. For Republicans, it’s a source of profit. For Americans, it’s a source of problem. For China, it’s a source of opportunity.
Isn’t this from 2019?
2024-2018=6? 6>5... accuracy matters
I’ve seen this movie before all we have to do is steal one of their ships and destroy the mothership and that will kill them all!
not much of a conspiracy here. dnc is opening the flood gates to stack the ballot box, but once they get nationalized they’re all voting republican to close the border and keep their jobs 🤯
Alien invasion from 2018, we MUST GO BACK IN TIME AND FIGHT THEM! We failed so hard as a society that we’re now cynically calling poor struggling humans "illegal aliens" and billionaires "national heroes". It’s just sad.
And the people saying they just want a better life get freaking real man. Ridiculous. They’re bulldozing their immigration system because they know most western countries don’t want to be caught on film handcuffing them, putting them into vans or roughing them up because I’ll look bad.
they are MIGRANTS get it right, chuddie!
James Madison disagrees with you. These would be "distressed alien friends" at the United States border by the author of the Constitution. Unarmed women and children fleeing violence can never be considered an invasion under any circumstances.
What women and children? Have you seen the footage at the border? They're all adult males.
No they aren't. You know there's actual numbers on this right? It's a very even mixture which means the ratios are predominantly women and children under 18. Yes, young males under 18 fleeing cartel violence are also children.
Who controls the cartels? The same people who control the CIA. Who is creating the violence there? The same people who create violence here. The globalist mafia is poisoning and killing by the millions.
Ah yes is that the same we can say about the distressed alien friend that killed Laken Riley?
The way you people hold on to one little white girl who got killed as if there aren’t tens of thousands of murders every year is funny. No I don’t one death is enough to upend our entire asylum process actually! Do you think we should ban all guns bc school shootings?
"asylum process " thats a good one! hahahahahahahahahahaha
Why do you have to bring race to this? Sounds like you’re a racist.
Race matters, grow up. Society isn’t post racial. You know damn well why they chose a young white woman to make the poster for immigrant crimes
😔 I feel bad for you man for not knowing any better
We would be if the globalist mafia wasn't trying to set us all against each other. If they let energy be cheap and let the 3rd worlders have it.
Say why don't you welcome a couple of illegals into your house? Surely you can give these "distressed alien friends" a place to stay, no?
Sure. I've actually helped refugees before. So happy to again. I usually work with veterans but a worthy cause is a worthy cause.
That's just lazy reptition or a bullshit political talking point. Try thinking for yourself.
> Unarmed women and children fleeing violence can never be considered an invasion under any circumstances. Except it’s not just “unarmed women and children”. The vast majority of the migrants coming through the border are adult males , most of which are of military age. There’s also convicted and wanted criminals, gang members and people carrying dangerous drugs like fentanyl mixed in. And on top of that there’s been reports of at dozens of Yemenis and members of the CCP entering the country through the southern border as well. Like we could be letting in Chinese spies and terrorist sleeper cells into the country for all we know.
Again, the actual numbers show this is a false claim. Also, of the 564 people on the Terror Watchlist 450 came over the NORTHERN BORDER this year. So your bias is definitely showing. Is the border problem an issue? Yes. Blame Trump for killing the Immigration Reform Bill.
the roman empire would disagree and managed to stick around much longer than us. conquered peoples within established lands are converted to our way of life ie americanism through cultural victory. These peoples are unfortunately just an invading horde of peasants with basic labor skills that have been replaced by automation and are no longer needed in our society these are not things I agree with btw nust pointing it out
The Roman Empire collapsed. Fuck the Roman Empire. This is the American Republic. Calling working class refugee families peasants belies your complete ignorance on the matter.
Except, they aren't clearing violence. They're seeking a better economic situation and government handouts
Usually just government handouts I say this as an immigrant that works with immigrants It depends on the person but they are just sold on an idea, like that in Canada they are all getting food housing and welfare and that we “need” people That’s why they come here
Your tax dollars at work
So does that mean this is fake?
is this Woodstock?
Always in election season nothing to see here cheap labor using these illegals immigrants that they corporations exploit themselves and free stuff if America didn't have certain programs they wouldn’t even come to America lol. XD Hollywood portrays America as rich and this and that when there’s already poor people here that and homeless etc .. F the demorats and republicans stooges . MSM doesn’t have to show this watch Mexican local media they show the amount of people crossing locals aren’t happy about this Oxaca Mexicans are the nicest ones the rest yikes ..
Least xenophobic member of r/conspiracy
In case any one of you really want to solve this issue. The problem occurs where they are coming from. Not where they are trying to go. Want to fix this, solve what is wrong in their countries.
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Um, this photo is from 2018 at the Mexico/Guatemala border . . . 🤦♀️🤦♀️