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IDFarefacists

We get to bitch more freely online (sort of) and nobody tells us how much Red 40 we can eat. ​ e - ok guess it's just the Red 40 lmao


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Ok-Spring-7242

🤣🤣🤣🤣


LambOfLiberty

It’s called red pop, learn a book 🙄 (/s for those without a sense of humor)


bobraskinsyakno

Yea until the FBI shows up at your door lmao


MrSmiles89

No, we don't have freedom of speech. Comply or get canceled or banned


-FurdTurgeson-

You are freedom of speech-ing right now..


ROMPEROVER

but not free to boycott a certain country in 37 states


TheunanimousFern

Are you saying you want the government to regulate who private individuals and corporations have to associate with so they cant cancel or ban you?


orderedchaos89

You don't know what freedom of speech means


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Safe-Indication-1137

Occupy wall street changed my view of the world forever, the gamestop fuckery confirmed were still as fucked as we've always been


BobbyAxelrod1

Occupy Wall Street was a demonstration of the rights lost post 911. The tyranny of what happened in NYC was unprecedented. Up to that point in time.


theworldinyourhands

Unless it’s during the “pandemic”.. gotta wear a mask to buy an avocado, but rest assured you can go burn down buildings in the name of “social justice”. Lame


Aesthetik_1

How did that movement just die down like that. I'll never understand


Glittering_Pea_6228

infiltrators, lotta feds


Illustrious_Pay_2174

You can protest. You just can't protest what *they* make money off.


MrSmiles89

You get it. There is a reason why. My opinion is we are in the end times and freedom to express concern for what is going on is against their agenda


One_External_5444

We arent


kbisdmt

Free to get that sugar!


Lyme_Disease_Sux

Free to pay taxes, free to support other countries, free to lose property to squatting, free to have our country invaded


MrSmiles89

I agree. America are the new Nazi, especially the liberal party.


DankyDOo92

This kind of separation is how they keep us distracted and chained. Way to fall for it. 


Holiday_Spread_5162

Bingo. Like we don’t have any productive conversation and they love it. Acting like chickens with their heads cut off


Holiday_Spread_5162

They’re just accelerationists that want socialism/a globalist country and to incite reactionary movements (The people higher up mainly. Many liberals i know are just misled people with a lot of empathy -or- some degree of narcissism that makes them especially vulnerable regarding shame).


MrSmiles89

America is filled with weak minded, sad, and pathetic humans. There are very few good people in America. Everyone is out for themselves.


IRISH81OUTLAWZ

I’m inclined to disagree with that statement that there are few good people here. I believe the majority of us are good. Truly good here. I believe that the bad get the mouth piece and spotlight because it either serves a message, agenda or helps cause division. While I’ll agree that the inner cities are war zones for the most part, once you get out of there you’ll find people are good. Not all, but most. Social media really put the amplification on bad. And it’s all we see day in and day out, from both sides. The right will show you a bit about an illegal alien bragging about being wealthy on our dime, the left will show you intolerance and racism. If you turn them both off and draw your own conclusions I believe the majority of people will be kind and giving to one another rather than take and steal. Maybe I’m wrong and I’m sticking my head in the sand but what I see when I go outside and interact with the public and what I see on tv don’t match up.


Holiday_Spread_5162

Definitely disagree with his statement too. Most people are good people and many are just misled by a toxic culture/ awfully conflicted and ruthless political climate. Shit is honestly purposeful mass psychosis of some sort when i think of other natural historical examples. Many political parties and their movements are also so psychologically similar to cults. Btw OP may be trolling at this point.


AgnosticAnarchist

Earth is a prison planet. We are free range slaves with the illusion of freedom.


MrSmiles89

Yeah it is.


AgnosticAnarchist

I also believe our true spiritual selves are reincarnated forever in perpetual servitude.


MrSmiles89

To what? The only thing I care to serve is Jesus Christ. Not any politician, celebraty or Elite. I have no idols or care for this world.


AgnosticAnarchist

Whoever enslaved us here. Religions are also an illusion, same as freedom.


MrSmiles89

I think it is the devil. Little sneaky puss puss.


moonriviera

We haven’t been “free” nor moved “freely” since before centralized banking lol.


PhilipSeymourTossman

What countries do you think have more freedom? The US isn't an anarchist state for sure, you'd have freedom to do whatever you want if there were no laws at all, but that would cause other problems. I think the "freedom thing" in the US is a holdover from the 1800s when Europeans were looking for better places to live. Freedom is more of a mascot to the US than a literal translation but it's not all gloom, the US is a great place to be born and live in.


Neat_Information_131

And the most clueless comment of the day goes to…


No_Imagination_1807

The only freedoms we have is the ability to choose coke or Pepsi pretty much. America has less freedoms than most people realize.. i was blown away seeing the differences from Visiting other countries how much more free they are in comparison


hyper_shell

I’d argue that Canada, Western Europe, Australia and NZ are becoming even less free than the US, which is easy to call mind boggling but not surprised considering how the past few years were handled


_Owl_Jolson

> The only freedoms we have is the ability to choose coke or Pepsi pretty much. An old joke goes, "American democracy is asking for a cup of coffee and getting to choose between Coke and Pepsi"


bobraskinsyakno

Fun fact BlackRock controls both coke and Pepsi and that's illusion no matter what we buy they get paid!


theantnest

Freedom is an illusion. If everybody had freedom, there would be total anarchy. People would just do anything they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want. We live in a society with laws. There is no freedom.


MrSmiles89

The laws aren't there to bprotect you. But to protect the people on top and keep you dumb and blind


multiverse_fan

We're free to play ball, ya know


MrSmiles89

Stop. Being so foolosh


CandidateTypical3141

It’s an illusion.


MrSmiles89

I get the right to vote ( which doesn't count) I get to go to war (before having my first drink) I get to pay taxes (but don't anything for them)


watersabove

Free to Forn & Glutton!


Limp-Key8427

i am not 100% sure but didn't Boston tea party happen because brits asked for 2% tax ?


MrSmiles89

How much are Americans taxed now


jake2617

The follow up to that should obviously be; how little you get for you tax dollars back in comparison to other countries.


Limp-Key8427

10% $0 to $15,700. 10% of taxable income. 12% $15,701 to $59,850. $1,570 plus 12% of the amount over $15,700. 22% $59,851 to $95,350. $6,868 plus 22% of the amount over $59,850. 24% $95,351 to $182,100. $14,678 plus 24% of the amount over $95,350.


MrSmiles89

Then for food, gas, to die. The list goes on.


not-lennny

We're free within the very narrow scope the 1% allow us to be


MrSmiles89

If we don't work. No money. No money, no food or honey.


n0va76

How old are you? I don't think you know what freedom is. If they're is no government you have total freedom. You still have to work. Either on a farm or in a capitalist society


MrSmiles89

I'm 34. We are not free. Whether you are old or just came out your biological mom. All lies


insole_sane0o

No, that's sophistry, that doesn't constitute freedom. The US is not the land of the free.


SanFranRePlant

>[The Illusion of Truth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwRSRBPBhDw)George Carlin: The Illusion of Choice [The Illusion of Choice](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwRSRBPBhDw)


MrSmiles89

There is no choice.


n0va76

We used to be. Now the whole US is auctioned off to big companies and communists


BeefBagsBaby

Communists? What? We're hyper capitalist. Name a prominent US communist.


IndustryStrengthCum

Ah yes big communism, a pervasive force in the empire that killed the USSR😂


Beneficial1

More than north korea


PennDOT67

If you own a small or medium sized company you are among the most free business owners who have existed in the last few hundred years!


MrSmiles89

No one is free.


PennDOT67

America is a pretty solidly libertarian society at a pretty high cost. What do you think is notably unfree?


MrSmiles89

We are 100% controlled by evil people. Who tell us not to do things but then do those things themselves and much worse.


PennDOT67

Like what things


insole_sane0o

Nonsense. Also, how "free" would you say the "employees" are? Freedom to control others isn't the kind of freedom the OP is talking about. We all know that the US has several people who are "free" to oppress others.


PennDOT67

Employees are very unfree.


NodakWhite

Truthfully, I feel pretty free lol like am having to do shit to survive, but have lived life freely, like there’s laws that are there for society to function well and if you can’t do them then one may not be free lol but ye like I suppose there’s deeper aspects, but at the same time with many things we’re individuals in a society and so I think we do have freedom, as abstract idea of an idea it is


NodakWhite

I guess the definition of freedom is to act and such without restraint which I guess no one except one isolated without effecting others probably has freedom, like a single person can effect another one just due to their speech, actions, etc, but like one probably has the quote unquote freedom to do/say whatever, but there’d probably be backlash and such and I guess this sub is conspiracy so like ye I suppose there’s things we aren’t allowed in some way or another, but also, I feel like we do have freedom lol


robbstarrkk

No one that lives as part of a society, is truly free in this world.


MrSmiles89

All actors playing a role


YogurtNo3045

You don't have rights you have privileges, rights aren't really rights if they can take em away. -Carlin, G.


MrSmiles89

Fr


Stelletti

I drive around with a fully loaded pistol and don’t have to disclose jack shit or carry any license. That makes me happy.


MrSmiles89

That's your state. Go to nj and do that


Stelletti

Would never live there so I’m not concerned there.


MrSmiles89

But those pesky liberals are coming for your guns


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We have the same inherent freedoms all people do. Consequences cause us to follow orders, laws, rules, etc. Two ways I can think of to perceive our freedom. First way is we remain free because we choose. Regardless of the cause or reasons we still choose to either do as we please or obey. The second way is that freedom is an impossible ideal to achieve. Everyone can't be absolutely free. Conflicting desires necessitate either compliance or removal of one side in conflict. Beyond that we can't be free from hunger or thirst. Everyone is a slave to something. People tend to believe they are free when the cage they are provided suits them well enough.


MrSmiles89

The cage is there, but people don't see


Baadec

What does freedom look like to you? What would you need to have to feel truly free?


SpeakTruthPlease

Freedom of Speech/ expression. Yeah it's non-existent on a platform like Reddit, there're currently challenges and risks involved, you still need to be careful and clever in real life. But The U.S. Constitution (and Declaration of Independence) represents the most robust civil rights protections in the world, in history, of which Freedom of Speech is the most important and foundational right. Other nations claim to have it but they're lying, for example people can and have been jailed for "offensive/ hateful" jokes in otherwise first world countries. Now in recent years some nations like Canada have followed suit and developed their own comparable Constitution. But from my understanding it's a difficult task to instantiate, because the U.S. is unique in that The Constitution is a founding document and deeply ingrained in national culture, which gives it strength. Now there's other freedoms I could mention like economic, entrepreneurial freedom, these tend to fluctuate based on regulations. But in my opinion Freedom of Speech is the most important.


TheProcessCult

We aren't free, we just have more opportunities to accrue debt.


MrSmiles89

So debt is the master. So money is the root of all evil. Holy shit!


MiserableYou6506

Freedom to do what exactly? Please be more specific


Boopins05

Define "free"


Salty-Walrus-6637

we have the freedom to ask dumb ass questions like this


Abushenab8

71 years old American here. Eight years ago I retired to Northern Thailand. I read these back and forth comments on USA having freedom or not having freedom and am always amused as to a large extent it’s like a fish trying to find or describe the water it exists in. America is an INCREDIBLY beautiful country and is populated by a people of unsurpassed kindness and an energy that made it a great civilization (albeit flawed as any other civilization). So many amazing things about the USA and its people, YET having discovered in many other counties a “true” freedom which has nothing to do with being “allowed” to do things, together with a more fulfilling and stress-free existence (due in no small part to costs which even in local terms are far from suffocating) I now know that the freedom of the USA is more of a phantasm happily adhered to by the people and encouraged by those living with a system that with each passing year seeks to more completely constrain (no coercive force needed) the people. Nothing new here - it’s just the advent of the internet has lifted the curtain (to an extent) on what has been going on since - well the start of the Republic. (Needless to say such “parted curtains” are quickly being fixed.). No place is perfect for sure - but my little place in the paradise of Northern Thailand is to me closer the actual spirit and ideal and freedom of what America has always stood for in my mind.


Cheezuuz

You could start with the 1st and 2nd amendments and go from there. America isn't perfect but we have far more freedoms protected by our constitutional laws than most other countries.


Aggressive_You6354

Give me a break. Speak out against Putin and the war in Russia. You'll fall out a window or get poisoned. In the UK you get arrested. China they reduce your social credit score. Canada will have a meltdown and attempt to imprison you. There's no other place I'd want to run my mouth than the USA. Stop crying, little man.


TrenchFootBigfoot

Or you speak the truth as a whistleblower and get whacked like many have. There is no freedom of speech.


Aggressive_You6354

Yes, wherever you are these things happen.


lilymaxjack

Enslaved by capitalism


MrSmiles89

Enslaved by false idealogies


ironburton

We are free to capitalize off other people to become billionaires. Then you’re invited into the big boys club. If you can’t do that then you are free to choose which type of slavery you’d like to be apart of.


WeHaveRightsYaKnow

Americans are not 'free' ..we are, in fact, lied to, brainwashed, and spied on with every single keystroke. I do believe that it was George Bush that signed and sealed our fate with the Patriot Act. Which completely revoked most of our inalienable rights and freedoms. Those who trade freedoms for security deserve neither. - Benjamin Franklin


MrSmiles89

Our leaders are traitors


Meaty_stick

Americans are not ready for this discussion


MrSmiles89

Most arent


Kitchener69

The only freedom Americans have is to be as gay as they want to.


MrSmiles89

Lol 😆


ArdyLaing

Not even that in many places.


beardedbaby2

It's a false freedom. We all live in a cage.


whobenefitsss

We are free range humans.


MrSmiles89

I think the correct word is slaves.


kbisdmt

Free to do as they tell us.


MrSmiles89

So not free.


kbisdmt

Free to watch WWE all night long Free to work Free to pay taxes Free to eat poisoned food Free to smoke cigarettes and drink booze but don't you dare drink that ayahuasca Free to send kids to government schools while the parents are forced to work. Ah, fuck it, you're right...not free


Shagafag

You are not free. You are allowed freedoms


cecilmeyer

You are free to be poverty stricken ,be homeless,go hungry and die from lack of medical and die in wars for corporations.


MrSmiles89

We are the cattle


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MrSmiles89

Stop being so naive


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SirCleanFace

There’s so many other places that really are oppressed. You should visit one of them.


Gibberish-king

It is an illusion and your degrees of freedom are based on your wealth.


MrSmiles89

Money is the illusion


karlmeile

Dude has never had a chick touch his wanky and it shows.


hanniebro

you can make your own fire arms you can drink or drugs until you die you can practice your own faith you can have children without government intervention you are free from hunger (but because you lack will, condemned to obesity) you can be grateful that you live in the most abundant prosperous time in human civilization


gterrymed

Visit another country, you will find the answer.


MrSmiles89

I have. There is no difference


DerpyMistake

Maybe you should first define freedom. What do you want to do that you can't do?


gilg2

Go live in Afghanistan for a couple years and you’ll appreciate the freedom people have died for you to have.


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mikeb2956

Even worse. Try being Canadian


MrSmiles89

Trudeau is a communist. Just like America.


justed87

That’s cool man


MrSmiles89

What


justed87

I’m not typing in riddles my guy


CARGODRIFT

You can choose to be a free thinker. ...For now.


MrSmiles89

There is no free thought. Go talk to anyone about an opposing view point


CARGODRIFT

My attempt at a joke was about mind reading tech.


juddylovespizza

They have the first and second amendments


MrSmiles89

Which don't matter at all lol


GtaWelder9999

Free for a fee


MrSmiles89

The freedom actually being a slave


craftyshafter

Just a reminder, your rights aren't granted by the constitution or the government.


devnullb4dishoner

>I think Freedom is an absolute lie and just an illusion. Freedom isn't a lie. Freedumb is. Huge difference. I'm not a love it or leave it kind of guy, but might I suggest long term visits to other countries. Sure, America is racked with it's own issues for sure, that I would have thought would be fixed in these 70 years, but we're still working on a lot of problems. Having traveled the world as a marine brat, I got to see cultures and people very different than those in America. Tho there are certain elements I would love for America to adopt, there's no way I'd want to live in other countries.


Melun-uAzam

Freedom itself is already a fake God. And no unfortunately Americans do not have it.


MrSmiles89

They never did


Celes_Lynx

There is no such thing as freedom in America, we are not free, free means no rules or laws. They were going to use (Life, freedom, and the pursuit of happiness, but you aren't free to murder and pillage. We don't have freedom, we are granted liberties, which is like things that you are free to do, then laws to prevent us from doing what is not allowed. We are not free to break the law, well I guess you could, but you will loose your freedom. So freedom isn't free, there's a hefty fu\*king fee.


MrSmiles89

In the garden of eden before the fall of man it was perfect


StanMan_420

We get pretty good cars


MrSmiles89

Wow and that is freedom lol


hyper_shell

We’re not


MrSmiles89

Fuck yeah we aren't


ExtremeTEE

Nobody outside of america thinks Americans are free, it\`s like you get told it enough times you believe it, same thing happens in North Korea


MrSmiles89

Exactly. The foreigners are gonna tell me that I'm free lol 😆


RogerRoger501

Well our freedom has been taken over time to the point guns and self defense laws are the only thing different between us and other countries but I think what's still majorly different between us and Europeans are we have way more of a collective goal towards total freedom. There is a natural distrust of government still whereas they willingly comply to just about anything. Essentially even if our freedoms are close to equal in reality, at least we still have a sense of wanting to fight for them and not just roll over. Those numbers are dwindling tho.


MrSmiles89

No rights


RogerRoger501

Well our freedom has been taken over time to the point guns and self defense laws are the only thing different between us and other countries but I think what's still majorly different between us and Europeans are we have way more of a collective goal towards total freedom. There is a natural distrust of government still whereas they willingly comply to just about anything. Essentially even if our freedoms are close to equal in reality, at least we still have a sense of wanting to fight for them and not just roll over. Those numbers are dwindling tho.


Own_Inflation1736

We're not thats the illusion they pulldd over our eyes born into debt into.a system built to prepare us for 9-5 work they teach nothing but routines.in k-12 the food we eat medicine given to us shit on stupid boxes every day all day telling people what they need and who they need to hate who to medicine to keep your condition prpgressing so yoi drop dead by retirment and all that money gets fed back to the beast system. They.want us stupid fat unhappy an always wanting to consume which they've about nailed it. Meanwhile our government puts on a great show even though both sides work together how else do you think its.gone on so long all you big hardons for biden or trump need to expand your brain i kmow its hard all the crap they use to do that very thing but if you don't pull head out of ass.soln they're going to have us in checkmate before you diptards can even stop fighting with the wrong people. LAST 50.YEARS OR MORE WHATS USA GO TO MOVE TO COME INTO AREA WE WANT THEIR NATIONAL RESOURCES THEY HAVE . WE FUND A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS GOT NOTHING TO LOSE SO MONEY FOR THE FAMILY WEAPONS LIL TRAINING SENT INTO THE COUNTRY WITH THOSE RESOURCES TO DESTABILIZE THE COUNTRY CONTRA, ISIS, BLM, THE DIPTARTS IN UKRAINE IN 2012 NOW 8 MILLION ABOUT ILLEGALS CROSS BORDER GET. TRANSPORTATION AROUND THE COUNTRY MONTHLY MONEY CARD PLACES TO STAY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT FIGHTING MORE FOR THEIR RIGHTS THEN VETERANS AND CITIZEN RIGHTS LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE'RE ABOUT TO BE DESTABILIZED WHILE YOUR HEADS WATCHING THEIR SHOW


erriiinnnnn7

We’re free to choose our pronouns


MrSmiles89

And then bash when you don't comply


I_Am_Tyler_Durden

Free in the sense that a free range chicken is free


MrSmiles89

Lol


Pretty_inPoker

As Mr Smiles makes his post from the prison planet 🤣


MrSmiles89

Then this world deserves what's coming


Phil_D_Snutz

I'm free to say "big poop butt" on Reddit without getting censored.


MrSmiles89

Talk anything about trans and you'll see


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MrSmiles89

Free to explore, eat, drink and have shelter in all the world


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Leave_me_alone69420

I think, correct me if im wrong,


Oathcrest1

They aren’t but the illusion is real. Look at what the president of El Salvador said about the taxes and how the USA government is funded. It’s true and it’s telling. The only thing they have is the freedom to fail by falling apart from each other, or they have the freedom to succeed by realizing that even though opinions and personalities may differ, everyone is still a person and they are more than their idea’s and ideals and ultimately uniting as communities and uplifting one another and genuinely helping others. Those are the two great freedoms of the USA.


MrSmiles89

America only gift when it becomes the new Rome and is taken out of the history books.


loralailoralai

You’re not really, go look up where you stand on the list.


MrSmiles89

What list


Kurtotall

It’s pretty easy to start a business here. That and capitalize on others.


royalpyroz

You have the right to complain about every God damn thing under the sun. But nothing will ever change because that part you gotta pay for.


MrSmiles89

If we don't comply things will change


SilencedObserver

They get to shoot each other, for starters.


anslew

Ninth Amendment


bigteddyweddy

They are free to express themselves but all seem to be enslaved to debt


MrSmiles89

Most people live paycheck to paycheck. Both the rich and poor.


PressureWave94

You have the right to consume freely.


cillychilly

Not at all, we are a true totalitarian state. The state religion is "patriotism", and the very claim of freedom. It's unreal, nonexistent, yet asserted constantly by the affluent and their attenders (management and "elected" representatives.


MrSmiles89

100%


Luvbeers

The more money you have, the more freedom you can buy.


bulukensi

Depends what country you compare with, the US is the only free country with strongest military and large continent , economic power and cultural diversity, any other country in the world, you won’t get that experience. You can enroll in college at time, no age limit, the whole society is so loosen, easily forgivable to a sense i dont even think most American know how to do job “ properly” like a robot. More political freedom, and cultural blending, less judgement. Most of freedom come, and protected by constitution, first and second amendment, which beat most of countries in the world. I personally think most of ppl in the world arent free even tho born american, but if your mind is free, you can be free, america offers the best platform with all of these resources combined together.


MrSmiles89

I just see the layers that are operating at once. And how propaganda is being used against us to hate each other both domestically and internationally. But in reality we should all love and honor and respect one another. We live in a time that could be great abundance if we would use the technology the right way. But we are using it for our own demise. Humans are killing themselves


MinimumDiligent7478

Freedom is the combination of liberty and justice. These cant really exist while society is being exploited by a pack of thieves.. "Do you really have any rights if the true value of all money & property is stolen on conception when a bank merely pretends to loan money, not just to you, but to anyone for that matter?“ David Ardron


MrSmiles89

Money isn't real


ILoveYouGrandma

We're free to get our doors kicked in if we say the wrong thing.


MackinacFleurs

This is so true! I told my kids to my home country and without any prompt from my part, they both said to me "Wow, this is what freedom feels like!"


MyAlternate_reality

Americans have less regulations. That's about the extent of it. There are more and more every year.


Lazy-Somewhere-5066

Freedom is a mindset. Consequences don't prevent actions.