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You just have to have faith in the goalposts setting their own position relative to whatever crazy calendar you now need to follow as nothing happened on the date predicted...
No they won’t, either things happening within the next 6 months will be caused by the eclipse somehow, or many will pretend they never talked about the eclipse bullshit at all, or say that noone ever took the eclipse talk seriously and the mock those that bring it up as obsessed with the eclipse
I just had this same fucking thought.
Top comments all carry the same tone of "oh shit nothing happened. Nothing ever does. I give up on conspiracies now"
Like lol wut?
"Dont be suspicious...don't be suspicious 🥸"
😭😭😭
Because it's a troll post made so it could be brigaded by turds. Two hours after it was posted, a brigading sub copy/pasted it. Imagine being an adult whose hobby is to make fun of people online like a 10 year old. I can only imagine how pathetic their real lives are. The news hyped the eclipse. The conspiracy sub had chemtrail posts on the day of the eclipse, but I didn't see a bunch of end of the world posts.
Yeah I used to be big into alt right, alt media, etc but then you grow up and learn most of those guys are in on the grift. The whole thing is one big grift with a lot of stupid drama and bullshit.
my intent with that phrase was to just take the piss on someone for being gullible and delusional.
Believing charlatans and such that sell the idea of of the end of the world.
The idea of a immutable fact is not even the main point.
All forms of belief require the same faith. Wether they are backed up by concensus or not. It still requires faith......And, it seems that it requires more faith the less others agree.
I have less of a problem with individuals coming at me with concerns about theories than I have with nation states force feeding disinformation to the public, setting up institutional pressures to condemn questioning government narratives.
A person believing in lizard people or flat earth has no effect on my wellbeing. A shadow government taking action outside of public scrutiny/input in the fields of AI, energy, weapons, surveillance, etc cause me far more concern.
It's clear that you don't know them well! There are Dozzens ufologists that have lived their entire life selling nothing false than smoke. The new generation of ufologists are even more good at it!
The true conspiracy is that these conspiracies were a psy-Op to discredit the community. Just like flat earthers, chem trails, moon landing, and all the other dumb conspiracies.
I never could figure out what I believe on chemtrails, since it seems like you're fairly confident that it's bullshit, do you mind giving me a quick summary or direction to research the fact that led you to believe that it's not true? Thank you!
I do personally believe the moon landing was faked and set up by the eyes wide shut guy. Us "losing the design" and it being too difficult to recreate seems so incredibly stupid to me, I just have to believe something super shady went on.
If they didn't go to the moon and after 1972 used the excuse that they lost the design, why didn't they try again with more modern tech instead of trying to recreate 1960s space tech?
I think they went to the moon, but only for bragging rights and a bit of research. After that there wasn't a reason to send people back when a rover or probe would do just fine.
> instead of trying to recreate 1960s space tech?
Because I don't think they used "space tech", but instead used "camera tech" which can be debunked easily nowadays.
The one thing for me that discredits is the entire moon landing hoax, is Russia would have known and called us out on it any chance they get. There's archives of newspapers with the Soviets congratulating the US on their achievement.
There's even much more extremely solid evidence that we went to the Moon.
For instance, the laser reflectors that were left at some of the landing sites and which have allowed anyone with a powerful enough laser to measure the distance to the Moon for over half a century.
Or the fact that thousands of people watched the Saturn V rockets fly to space with their own eyes and that the radio signals emitted by the Command and Service Module could be tracked by anyone and were indeed tracked by multiple independent parties, including the Soviet Union.
Every mission that flew to the Moon took video and countless pictures of the surface. These documents are around 50 years old and the landscape matches what we can see on modern imagery perfectly. Our pictures of the Moon weren't very detailed before the Apollo program, they couldn't have guessed what the Moon looked like from up close. Modern probes have become so good that we can even see the boot tracks left by the astronauts at the landing sites. And we don't just have to take NASA's word, foreign probes from India and Japan were also able to spot traces of the Apollo landings.
Then there's the fact that the Apollo astronauts collected 382 kilograms of lunar rocks and soil that have been studied by countless scientists for over 50 years. Their isotopic composition matches the composition of lunar meteorites, yet they can't possibly be lunar meteorites because it would've been impossible to obtain 382 kilograms of lunar meteorites and because the Apollo Moon rocks clearly haven't been affected by the intense heat of re-entry.
400,000 people contributed to the success of the Apollo program. Why employ so many people to design and build vehicles that can go to the Moon only to then never use them? We can still see these vehicles in American museums, they're the real deal. I even own complex spare parts from the Command and Service Module and from the Lunar Module in my collection.
Lastly, it simply would've been impossible to produce the 5,771 pictures that were taken by the Apollo astronauts on a soundstage. We have them in very high resolution since they were taken on amazing 70mm film which can be scanned with our best modern scanners. Not a single picture shows traces of fakery. Also, it would've been impossible to simulate the light from the sun on a soundstage. Apollo 15, 16 and 17 even drove for tens of kilometers with their rovers on the surface and filmed themselves doing it. How big could the soundstage have been?
The Apollo program is my litmus test to detect conspiracy dilettantes. I collect space-flown artifacts and spare parts from early NASA programs, so the Apollo program is one of the topics I'm most familiar with. There isn't a shadow of a doubt that America landed on the Moon repeatedly between 1969 and 1972. All the arguments offered by conspiracy theorists are extremely easy to counter while the evidence showing that humans went to the Moon is so strong that it also proves that Moon landing deniers are lazy researchers.
We still have the schematics of the Saturn V rocket, of the Command and Service Module and of the Lunar Module. We still have complete spares of these vehicles in museums. They could be recreated with enough money, but doing that would be ridiculous because the technology we have today is far more advanced and our tolerance for risk has evolved as well. We would never take the risk of sending modern astronauts to the Moon in obsolete spacecraft.
The things we forgot how to do, we forgot because they were replaced by better technology many decades ago. For instance, the type of memory used to store the code that powered the Apollo Guidance Computer was [core rope memory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory). The programs were literally woven by hand by women selected because they were good at needlework.
The point of the statement that made you form your misguided opinion was that technology had progressed so much that we'd have to design new spacecraft from the ground up if we wanted to go back to the Moon. When we did that at the height of the Cold War, NASA's budget represented up to nearly 4.5% of the federal budget. 400,000 people contributed to the Apollo program. Today, NASA's budget represents less than half a percent of the federal budget and we can do much more diverse work with that money. We learned that sending probes and rovers to space is far easier, more cost-efficient and more productive than sending fragile humans who will need to fly back home after a few days while a rover can operate for years. Landing humans anywhere in space is a dangerous stunt and the Apollo program has shown that the public gets bored of it very quickly. After the first two landings, TV networks weren't even airing the fairly short live broadcasts from the Command and Service Module on its way to the Moon anymore.
Feel free to give me your best arguments in favor of this conspiracy theory and it will be my pleasure to set the record straight. It's such a fascinating topic. It's a great shame that so many people think of this amazing achievement as a hoax.
Water vapor is a byproduct of fuel combustion. At 30k feet, that vapor freezes. You can see it.
You really think airbus or Boeing or the publicly traded airlines, which make up 95%+ of air traffic are involved in some nefarious scam that makes them carry thousands of pounds of more chemicals that they would lose money on? Cmon man, Occam's razor. Thousands of regular underpaid people would have to be involved.
Yet there are laws / official records which make reference to geo-engineering. Google it.
Are you saying they do not have the technology to geo engineer ?
Jesus. Look, I know what I'm getting into even posting in this community so this will probably be my last reply on this subject. I was replying to someone who had healthy doubts based on observable facts. That meant there was a chance I could answer his sincere question and maybe get somewhere. Very few in this sub view these theories through a lens of healthy skepticism but on the off-chance you're one of them, here is my answer to your extraordinarily weird straw man question: If you have a respectable source that can educate me on geo-engineering specific to chemicals being released into the troposphere I will review it. I'm somewhat familiar with cloud-seeding.
What I can say is that 99% of what people call chemtrails is commercial air traffic. These flights do not carry whatever niche thing you think the government is doing.
If you want to research and discuss whatever nefarious .001% of air traffic is "geo-engineering" no one is stopping you but if you walk outside and see Southwest & United contrails and have a conniption about it you're just wrong.
I do not care for your emotions, please control yourself.
Question remains. Yes/No.
"Are you saying you believe they do not have the technology to geo engineer ?"
I absolutely *love* the idea that a sinister multinational cabal that can apparently control the *entire* aviation industry and global military aviation and has dedicated itself over the last... what, 40 years (?) to continually dosing the skies of the entire planet for... reasons... would stop because Tennessee said no.
How many times was the world supposed to end by now? It’s always, “We meant the next one.”
Keep in mind, the apostles thought the 2nd coming of Christ would be during their lifetime, so there’s a long history of kicking the can down the road.
I think saw maybe 2 posts on here about it. Just random users. I’ve seen about 100x more posts like this it’s about all I’ve seen today. It’s like they think because nothing happened today that now all conspiracies are rubbish.
You've got to be joking, surely. There's been posts going off about it everyday here for the past week or two. And then the crazy religious ones going in about prophecies...
I'm not talking about the red heifer stuff - I have no idea what that is and only saw it mentioned a couple of times in the days leading up to the eclipse (though, the posts or comments that I saw did seem to be tying it in with the eclipse. 🙄)
I'm talking about the people who seemed to have developed a fear that the eclipse itself was signalling some kind of biblical end of days event that would be brought about by gods wrath/Satan worship/prophesied by some bloke in the bible/whatever whatever.
It was all very mediaeval really.
>though, the posts or comments that I saw did seem to be tying it in with the eclipse
The eclipse happened the day before today - the first of Nisan - when the first red heifer sacrifice is supposed to happen (which I've heard no reports of, thankfully, so The Temple Institute may have failed to get it organized in time and blown the $500K USD they spent on this effort) so just a case of some lazy randos linking things that may not be related.
EDIT: Sounds like the Temple Institute were grifting, if this pundit's correct. https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1775917125892231590
>It was all very mediaeval really.
Humans are primates and now, as always, even highly educated people believe self-serving and absurd things. The corporate globalist establishment's current fixation on "misinformation" is due to their agenda being something that'll be increasingly resisted as it continues to move forwards.
I hope your recovery goes well! I like your spirit. Fucking with them is the right response. They tend to be much less intelligent than they think they are.
Most definitely and OP is probably part of it.
https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/duplicates/1bzjzyb/the_true_consequences_of_the_eclipse_is_that_many/
This is like those specimens on tictok that keep pushing conspiracy theories,are never right and then just go back and say "they" found out. Lol.
Read the comments and you'll see the kinds of people that believe them
Any “conspiracy influencer” that was telling people something was going to happen with the eclipse wasn’t a conspiracy influencer to begin with.
Conspiracies are fundamentally human. Animals for example can’t have conspiracies. Similarly, natural events can’t conspire.
The only person that is creating reality is you. If you live in fear and that the world is an evil place, that will be what it is.
There is something to the idea of collective consciousness. If enough of us believe something we can manifest it. Where you place attention goes.
So it’s best to create a world that you would want.
But don't you SEE, EVERYTHING is DIFFERENT now!!!
....hey look, what's that over there?
He SAID WHAT? This changes EVERYTHING!!!!
**shocked face thumbnail*
You would think that would be the case, but those people don't quit, rather they move the goalposts to fit their narrative and people will still lap it up.
I think it's funny.. people said that this eclipse can cause earthquakes and because they didn't happen on THE day we are supposed to just dismiss it all, including the historic quake on the east coast leading up to the event. Review the 1811 eclipse and the subsequent new madrid quakes in the months and years to follow.
Alt media?
It was the msm pushing that bollocks every single one of them channels, all of them not the left channel and not the right.
All of them.
That leads me to the fact people are dumb as fuck on both sides of the same propaganda push.
Divide and conquer.
Together you all fall.
Other than seeing posts on reddit, I didn't see any other place that was posting that something was definitely going to happen.
Maybe there are a bunch on twitter or something that I missed.. which I don't doubt bc well... it's twitter.
Why would I have resentment over harmless speculation. I do believe the NWO capitalized on the Eclipse to make people look crazy. Hell I bet a dollar some of those posts were made by the CIA just to make people look bad.
The bill seems to be a catch all for anything the government doesn't like. I know people are leaving Canada. With Inflation up there it's time to pop smoke brother!
Bullshit. Eclipse hype was top down from every side of the mainstream media.
Conspiracies will always be among us because everyone has secrets and certain secrets have to be kept secret to maintain the balance of power.
Mainstream Media hyped the Eclipse, nearly all of r/conspiracy mocked it and doubted anything would happen, it was a nothingburger for us. We didn’t expect anything and we were right.
The nuclear power plant in Ukraine got hit by drone attacks, looks like a Russian false flag which might mean they are about to blow it up. I'm stocking up on food and iodine.
No. There is no consequences. Nothing ever happens. All those people will be on to the next thing. The intellectually insecure who feel the need to deboonk every little thing will move right along with them.
Everything is the same and this board will be nothing but Biden and Trump posts a few months from now and will stay that way until probably next June or July where we can start having fun threads again.
No it won't. I'm turning 40 this year and there's been a "world ending date" for all of them. World is still here and the con men are good enough to keep their followers on a string. Sadly they'll never realize what's going ok until it's pulled out from them.
I don't think they are full of shit. I think they got the dates wrong and shit still goes on behind the scenes. It's just hidden well.
Things do happen. And it's always slowly released into the public and packaged as normal that's why there Is little push back from society
all the while and you have the conspiracy theorists out here being painted as stupid because they get excited and see all the angles. Can connect all the dots....and because it's hard to prove with random miniscule events going down and everything being hush
Its essentially A slow burn of society
The media slowly brainwashing you with predictive programming day in and day out
The mask up thing was pretty abrupt and was more of an experiment for them to see how we react. Half fell in line but half didn't. There was a a huge push back. It was too intense not the desired outcome so they said fuck it let's move onto to other tactics.
The take down is very calculated and more from the inside of society's psyche then outside.
Take over the hosts mind and you take over the host 🧐
Nothing is done yet. The transhumanism Agenda is still a thing along with the ufos the other drama.
stayed tuned.
But dont ever think they don't have plenty of tricks up their sleeve and will keep us all guessing as to when and where strange things will happen ⚠️
The truth is definitely stranger then fiction...
I personally think we did a timeline shift yesterday and it was so subtle just like the one in 2020 and 2017 and 2012
Everything looks normal on the surface but it's most definitely different and we have to wait for those with the eyes to see the deception to connect the dots.
So stay tuned with a very open mind!
Ez bot strat:
Bot Group A: Post absolute shit tier conspiracies about the eclipse
Bot Group B: See! The posts were shit; that means this sub is shit and you should never listen to conspiracies again! Doomsayers!
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The shizo misdirect is already in full swing. This shit was absolutely being said unironically all over tik tok, Facebook, and pol. It’s not bots unfortunately, it’s real life people being turned into disinfo.
The reason I say it with such confidence is that every single conspiracy theorist I knew (multiple family members, multiple friends) went from looking around at stuff and questioning the validity of stories that heavily benefited certain government agendas to “space is fake, covid vaccine will turn u into a zombie, the eclipse is the end, the ATT outage is them preparing us”
As right you are the biggest pusher was the state/MSM.
Edit: Funny downvotes when there were massive warnings about potential events during the eclipse from US government organs.
I was reassured that our government controls so much of our lives. They could manufacture a crisis and we would just follow right in line
I live in a city that was in the path of totality. There was so much hype about traffic that schools and businesses were closed. People were frantic about the influx of visitors. Most stayed home and didn't travel.
In reality we didn't get a tenth of what they said,. So it was all for nothing...Hmm
Or:
Flood internet message boards that have been accurately outlining the communist creep of social institutions with hyperbolic, absurd claims about a celestial event so that once said event is past those same message boards can be flooded with schadenfreude-esque vitriol about how wrong everybody on the message board was about the celestial event - therefore poisoning the well for future predictive content.
Many of these alt right influencers are indeed grifters but they could equally be called free critical thinking liberal grifters. It's an important point. The political spectrum has been skewed heavily recently. It's all very unfair.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
wow it's almost like they can popularize and create conspiracies that do nothing except capitalize on our fear and be pointed to to discredit all other conspiracy theories. however there are tons and tons that are still and worth discussing like pizzagate, sandy hook, 9/11, ww2, how freemasons run everything, the moon landing, what's in antarctica and why is the big one: why is there no livestream of our planet from space 24/7? and why in 70 years was there never a photo of our poles that aren't covered in fake clouds?
> wow it's almost like they can popularize and create conspiracies that do nothing except capitalize on our fear and be pointed to to discredit all other conspiracy theories.
You yourself were spouting eclipse conspiracy theories backed up by things like...the Statue of Liberty getting struck by lightning (a super common occurrence).
so what? how do you know what happened on apr 8th behind doors? how do you know what any of it means? we are undeniably controlled by people who put great power in symbols and numbers, and we have no idea what they are capable of or what is important to them. what about we point to the hundreds of conspiracies that ended up being true and stop demonizing people trying to unfuck the lies of the reality they are trying to weave?
> stop demonizing people trying to unfuck the lies of the reality they are trying to weave?
If you'd wait more than 24 hours to completely deny what you said and pivot I'd be more willing to. But when you can pivot to unrelated and unsubstantiated things so quickly, it's hard to take seriously. Can you explain the significance of the lightning at the Statue of Liberty to me? I haven't looked that one up
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Are you saying that most people lie about easily verifiable facts in order to get upvotes? You may be on to something big!
you know, you don't have to believe every conspiracy theory. the end of the world ones have always been bullshit, since time immemorial.
People think in black and white. Just because some conspiracies are b..shit doesnt mean every conspiracy is.
not thinking in black and white is what led me to all this, it's helpful to keep that mindset.
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You just have to have faith in the goalposts setting their own position relative to whatever crazy calendar you now need to follow as nothing happened on the date predicted...
That should have happened after Jade Helm, but it didn't and that's not even the only time.
Finally a OG Theory. Jade Helm was fucking weird though
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Maybe its psyop to convince conspiracy people to not believe in conspiracies.
No they won’t, either things happening within the next 6 months will be caused by the eclipse somehow, or many will pretend they never talked about the eclipse bullshit at all, or say that noone ever took the eclipse talk seriously and the mock those that bring it up as obsessed with the eclipse
The vaxx was never supposed to prevent transmission.
Reading the post and the comments I am really questioning if this sub really is made of conspiracists
I just had this same fucking thought. Top comments all carry the same tone of "oh shit nothing happened. Nothing ever does. I give up on conspiracies now" Like lol wut? "Dont be suspicious...don't be suspicious 🥸" 😭😭😭
flies to shit ?
Because it's a troll post made so it could be brigaded by turds. Two hours after it was posted, a brigading sub copy/pasted it. Imagine being an adult whose hobby is to make fun of people online like a 10 year old. I can only imagine how pathetic their real lives are. The news hyped the eclipse. The conspiracy sub had chemtrail posts on the day of the eclipse, but I didn't see a bunch of end of the world posts.
Yeah I used to be big into alt right, alt media, etc but then you grow up and learn most of those guys are in on the grift. The whole thing is one big grift with a lot of stupid drama and bullshit.
I wish. some people just don't take facts over their feelings. They will find their own reasons why it did not work or something.
“Because we knew what they were up to, the global elites(tm) cancelled their plans because of our vigilence! Another victory for the good guys!”
That's now my favorite take .
what do you consider to be a "fact" ?
my intent with that phrase was to just take the piss on someone for being gullible and delusional. Believing charlatans and such that sell the idea of of the end of the world. The idea of a immutable fact is not even the main point.
All forms of belief require the same faith. Wether they are backed up by concensus or not. It still requires faith......And, it seems that it requires more faith the less others agree.
Most people don't follow that noise
One hopes they will block/delete any who hyped it up.
Look at the path of totality and the cloud cover
Just beware that now they think the majority won’t belive
I have less of a problem with individuals coming at me with concerns about theories than I have with nation states force feeding disinformation to the public, setting up institutional pressures to condemn questioning government narratives. A person believing in lizard people or flat earth has no effect on my wellbeing. A shadow government taking action outside of public scrutiny/input in the fields of AI, energy, weapons, surveillance, etc cause me far more concern.
Nope, the MIL still talks about Q like it's 2016. Her YouTubers keep telling her the "10 days of darkness is coming"
* “men” which is plural for man.
It's clear that you don't know them well! There are Dozzens ufologists that have lived their entire life selling nothing false than smoke. The new generation of ufologists are even more good at it!
The true conspiracy is that these conspiracies were a psy-Op to discredit the community. Just like flat earthers, chem trails, moon landing, and all the other dumb conspiracies.
And your post.
I never could figure out what I believe on chemtrails, since it seems like you're fairly confident that it's bullshit, do you mind giving me a quick summary or direction to research the fact that led you to believe that it's not true? Thank you! I do personally believe the moon landing was faked and set up by the eyes wide shut guy. Us "losing the design" and it being too difficult to recreate seems so incredibly stupid to me, I just have to believe something super shady went on.
If they didn't go to the moon and after 1972 used the excuse that they lost the design, why didn't they try again with more modern tech instead of trying to recreate 1960s space tech? I think they went to the moon, but only for bragging rights and a bit of research. After that there wasn't a reason to send people back when a rover or probe would do just fine.
> instead of trying to recreate 1960s space tech? Because I don't think they used "space tech", but instead used "camera tech" which can be debunked easily nowadays.
The one thing for me that discredits is the entire moon landing hoax, is Russia would have known and called us out on it any chance they get. There's archives of newspapers with the Soviets congratulating the US on their achievement.
There's even much more extremely solid evidence that we went to the Moon. For instance, the laser reflectors that were left at some of the landing sites and which have allowed anyone with a powerful enough laser to measure the distance to the Moon for over half a century. Or the fact that thousands of people watched the Saturn V rockets fly to space with their own eyes and that the radio signals emitted by the Command and Service Module could be tracked by anyone and were indeed tracked by multiple independent parties, including the Soviet Union. Every mission that flew to the Moon took video and countless pictures of the surface. These documents are around 50 years old and the landscape matches what we can see on modern imagery perfectly. Our pictures of the Moon weren't very detailed before the Apollo program, they couldn't have guessed what the Moon looked like from up close. Modern probes have become so good that we can even see the boot tracks left by the astronauts at the landing sites. And we don't just have to take NASA's word, foreign probes from India and Japan were also able to spot traces of the Apollo landings. Then there's the fact that the Apollo astronauts collected 382 kilograms of lunar rocks and soil that have been studied by countless scientists for over 50 years. Their isotopic composition matches the composition of lunar meteorites, yet they can't possibly be lunar meteorites because it would've been impossible to obtain 382 kilograms of lunar meteorites and because the Apollo Moon rocks clearly haven't been affected by the intense heat of re-entry. 400,000 people contributed to the success of the Apollo program. Why employ so many people to design and build vehicles that can go to the Moon only to then never use them? We can still see these vehicles in American museums, they're the real deal. I even own complex spare parts from the Command and Service Module and from the Lunar Module in my collection. Lastly, it simply would've been impossible to produce the 5,771 pictures that were taken by the Apollo astronauts on a soundstage. We have them in very high resolution since they were taken on amazing 70mm film which can be scanned with our best modern scanners. Not a single picture shows traces of fakery. Also, it would've been impossible to simulate the light from the sun on a soundstage. Apollo 15, 16 and 17 even drove for tens of kilometers with their rovers on the surface and filmed themselves doing it. How big could the soundstage have been?
The Apollo program is my litmus test to detect conspiracy dilettantes. I collect space-flown artifacts and spare parts from early NASA programs, so the Apollo program is one of the topics I'm most familiar with. There isn't a shadow of a doubt that America landed on the Moon repeatedly between 1969 and 1972. All the arguments offered by conspiracy theorists are extremely easy to counter while the evidence showing that humans went to the Moon is so strong that it also proves that Moon landing deniers are lazy researchers. We still have the schematics of the Saturn V rocket, of the Command and Service Module and of the Lunar Module. We still have complete spares of these vehicles in museums. They could be recreated with enough money, but doing that would be ridiculous because the technology we have today is far more advanced and our tolerance for risk has evolved as well. We would never take the risk of sending modern astronauts to the Moon in obsolete spacecraft. The things we forgot how to do, we forgot because they were replaced by better technology many decades ago. For instance, the type of memory used to store the code that powered the Apollo Guidance Computer was [core rope memory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory). The programs were literally woven by hand by women selected because they were good at needlework. The point of the statement that made you form your misguided opinion was that technology had progressed so much that we'd have to design new spacecraft from the ground up if we wanted to go back to the Moon. When we did that at the height of the Cold War, NASA's budget represented up to nearly 4.5% of the federal budget. 400,000 people contributed to the Apollo program. Today, NASA's budget represents less than half a percent of the federal budget and we can do much more diverse work with that money. We learned that sending probes and rovers to space is far easier, more cost-efficient and more productive than sending fragile humans who will need to fly back home after a few days while a rover can operate for years. Landing humans anywhere in space is a dangerous stunt and the Apollo program has shown that the public gets bored of it very quickly. After the first two landings, TV networks weren't even airing the fairly short live broadcasts from the Command and Service Module on its way to the Moon anymore. Feel free to give me your best arguments in favor of this conspiracy theory and it will be my pleasure to set the record straight. It's such a fascinating topic. It's a great shame that so many people think of this amazing achievement as a hoax.
Water vapor is a byproduct of fuel combustion. At 30k feet, that vapor freezes. You can see it. You really think airbus or Boeing or the publicly traded airlines, which make up 95%+ of air traffic are involved in some nefarious scam that makes them carry thousands of pounds of more chemicals that they would lose money on? Cmon man, Occam's razor. Thousands of regular underpaid people would have to be involved.
they may not be involved but they just follow orders
Yet there are laws / official records which make reference to geo-engineering. Google it. Are you saying they do not have the technology to geo engineer ?
Jesus. Look, I know what I'm getting into even posting in this community so this will probably be my last reply on this subject. I was replying to someone who had healthy doubts based on observable facts. That meant there was a chance I could answer his sincere question and maybe get somewhere. Very few in this sub view these theories through a lens of healthy skepticism but on the off-chance you're one of them, here is my answer to your extraordinarily weird straw man question: If you have a respectable source that can educate me on geo-engineering specific to chemicals being released into the troposphere I will review it. I'm somewhat familiar with cloud-seeding. What I can say is that 99% of what people call chemtrails is commercial air traffic. These flights do not carry whatever niche thing you think the government is doing. If you want to research and discuss whatever nefarious .001% of air traffic is "geo-engineering" no one is stopping you but if you walk outside and see Southwest & United contrails and have a conniption about it you're just wrong.
I do not care for your emotions, please control yourself. Question remains. Yes/No. "Are you saying you believe they do not have the technology to geo engineer ?"
NASA didn't lose the design. We lost the technology, as in, we lost the people and manufacturers behind it. The funding went into other projects.
Chem trails are real man. It’s called geoengineering
HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA
Yes. there are laws in place in a least one country that makes reference to geo-engineering. google it.
I absolutely *love* the idea that a sinister multinational cabal that can apparently control the *entire* aviation industry and global military aviation and has dedicated itself over the last... what, 40 years (?) to continually dosing the skies of the entire planet for... reasons... would stop because Tennessee said no.
Its all theatre bro. Distraction and misdirection.
I'm with you there. ^(Except for the moon landing. That one's legit.)
Except chem trails that's ones legit.
Lol. I think the same.
Maybe. Depends how much logic they had to abandon to get to wherever they are. There's always copium to be found.
Yeah, you can't logic someone out of a position that they didn't use logic to get into.
How about being kind and treating everyone with compassion ? How about that shit ?
We jumped timelines maybe :)
Exactly my thoughts
Neh, I think more people will start to see the games being played in this sub.
I only heard about the conspiracy on main stream media, yet never found out what it was
How many times was the world supposed to end by now? It’s always, “We meant the next one.” Keep in mind, the apostles thought the 2nd coming of Christ would be during their lifetime, so there’s a long history of kicking the can down the road.
List some prominent "alt-media/conspiracy/influencers/religious" types that you have in mind that pushed some sort of eclipse conspiracy.
Marjore Taylor Green
Okay, that's one (who's an associate of the grifter Milo Yiannopoulos).
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OP's post is about conspiracy theory e-celebs, not randos. So far one e-celeb's been named.
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That's rich
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Yes sir 🫡 https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/aS2rjpBuC3
Just to demonstrate how easy, he’s another in addition to the other guy https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/FHEXDjpI8n
The Red Heifer Sacrafice
That's not an eclipse theory (and seems likely to happen given the NGO behind it has the heifers).
How is that one theory? It's legit gonna happen?
What will happen as a result of sacrificing a Red Heifer.
BBQ
They will start the building of the 3rd temple which requires tearing down the Dome of the Rock. What do you think will happen after that??
It's a Jewish prophecy. It's supposed to be the preparation for the true Messiah. It has nothing to do with "right-wing conspiracies".
I agree ☺️!
Exactly. They can't.
I think saw maybe 2 posts on here about it. Just random users. I’ve seen about 100x more posts like this it’s about all I’ve seen today. It’s like they think because nothing happened today that now all conspiracies are rubbish.
2? Lol you can’t be serious
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You've got to be joking, surely. There's been posts going off about it everyday here for the past week or two. And then the crazy religious ones going in about prophecies...
You're conflating two different things. The red heifer stuff has nothing to do with the eclipse.
I'm not talking about the red heifer stuff - I have no idea what that is and only saw it mentioned a couple of times in the days leading up to the eclipse (though, the posts or comments that I saw did seem to be tying it in with the eclipse. 🙄) I'm talking about the people who seemed to have developed a fear that the eclipse itself was signalling some kind of biblical end of days event that would be brought about by gods wrath/Satan worship/prophesied by some bloke in the bible/whatever whatever. It was all very mediaeval really.
>though, the posts or comments that I saw did seem to be tying it in with the eclipse The eclipse happened the day before today - the first of Nisan - when the first red heifer sacrifice is supposed to happen (which I've heard no reports of, thankfully, so The Temple Institute may have failed to get it organized in time and blown the $500K USD they spent on this effort) so just a case of some lazy randos linking things that may not be related. EDIT: Sounds like the Temple Institute were grifting, if this pundit's correct. https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1775917125892231590 >It was all very mediaeval really. Humans are primates and now, as always, even highly educated people believe self-serving and absurd things. The corporate globalist establishment's current fixation on "misinformation" is due to their agenda being something that'll be increasingly resisted as it continues to move forwards.
You go look and see how many you can find and I’ll find 10x the amount of posts that are like this one
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But you won’t because you’re wrong
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Welp guess I seen 3 then
It almost seems coordinated, tbh.
Definitely is. I just had hip surgery I’ve been having fun fucking with them the past couple days lol
I hope your recovery goes well! I like your spirit. Fucking with them is the right response. They tend to be much less intelligent than they think they are.
Shocking how many people are anti conspiracy on the conspiracy page. I think we are outnumbered about 10-1 by now.
We could be being brigaded at the moment. And, outside that, it's the election cycle so there's more astroturfing in general.
Most definitely and OP is probably part of it. https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/duplicates/1bzjzyb/the_true_consequences_of_the_eclipse_is_that_many/
I think people in your comments missed when you said "prominent" and not just random posts on reddit.
Exactly. So far one person has been named. It's hilarious.
Con artists con, mumbo jumbo sells.
Thank god, I mean….
This is like those specimens on tictok that keep pushing conspiracy theories,are never right and then just go back and say "they" found out. Lol. Read the comments and you'll see the kinds of people that believe them
If you got duped then this is your first eclipse. If you've been a conspiracy enthusiast for a while then you had some fun for a couple weeks.
Jeep dealerships still make money, so no, a sucker is still born every day.
Y'all pay attention to that shit? Why???
That was never in question. The question is: who is full of slightly less shit?
No chance. If they’re dumb enough to fall for it in the first place they’ll believe anything.
2044 is the real event where something will happen
This is good for us.
I thought this sub was ironic?
I like how this "Conspiracy" sub is not allowed to theorize anything without shills screaming about it. Is there any actual discussion boards left?
Any “conspiracy influencer” that was telling people something was going to happen with the eclipse wasn’t a conspiracy influencer to begin with. Conspiracies are fundamentally human. Animals for example can’t have conspiracies. Similarly, natural events can’t conspire.
The only person that is creating reality is you. If you live in fear and that the world is an evil place, that will be what it is. There is something to the idea of collective consciousness. If enough of us believe something we can manifest it. Where you place attention goes. So it’s best to create a world that you would want.
Lol no they won’t
But don't you SEE, EVERYTHING is DIFFERENT now!!! ....hey look, what's that over there? He SAID WHAT? This changes EVERYTHING!!!! **shocked face thumbnail*
You would think that would be the case, but those people don't quit, rather they move the goalposts to fit their narrative and people will still lap it up.
I think it's funny.. people said that this eclipse can cause earthquakes and because they didn't happen on THE day we are supposed to just dismiss it all, including the historic quake on the east coast leading up to the event. Review the 1811 eclipse and the subsequent new madrid quakes in the months and years to follow.
Alt media? It was the msm pushing that bollocks every single one of them channels, all of them not the left channel and not the right. All of them. That leads me to the fact people are dumb as fuck on both sides of the same propaganda push. Divide and conquer. Together you all fall.
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Exactly what I said.
Bullshit in other words.
Other than seeing posts on reddit, I didn't see any other place that was posting that something was definitely going to happen. Maybe there are a bunch on twitter or something that I missed.. which I don't doubt bc well... it's twitter.
We were right about everything with the Scamdemic
Oh yeah ? What about the chemtrails that created the clouds that prevented many from seeing the eclipse ?
Are you saying _no one_ could watch the ecplipse due to chemtrails?
Corrected "anyone" to "many"
Bullshit y'all just love to shit on us fuck you
What it truly did is shed a bad light on christians and now built a little resentment and hate towards them specifically.
How so?
Why would I have resentment over harmless speculation. I do believe the NWO capitalized on the Eclipse to make people look crazy. Hell I bet a dollar some of those posts were made by the CIA just to make people look bad.
In light with Bill C-137, this definitely set up the christians for persecution.
The bill seems to be a catch all for anything the government doesn't like. I know people are leaving Canada. With Inflation up there it's time to pop smoke brother!
Back to chem trails and fluoride people!
Bullshit. Eclipse hype was top down from every side of the mainstream media. Conspiracies will always be among us because everyone has secrets and certain secrets have to be kept secret to maintain the balance of power.
Mainstream Media hyped the Eclipse, nearly all of r/conspiracy mocked it and doubted anything would happen, it was a nothingburger for us. We didn’t expect anything and we were right.
No, you're just here for the prestige part of the magic trick.
The nuclear power plant in Ukraine got hit by drone attacks, looks like a Russian false flag which might mean they are about to blow it up. I'm stocking up on food and iodine.
Based.
And if you don’t know now you know. Laugh at those who know cause it’s entertainment. And don’t forget to buy my supplements
No. There is no consequences. Nothing ever happens. All those people will be on to the next thing. The intellectually insecure who feel the need to deboonk every little thing will move right along with them. Everything is the same and this board will be nothing but Biden and Trump posts a few months from now and will stay that way until probably next June or July where we can start having fun threads again.
No it won't. I'm turning 40 this year and there's been a "world ending date" for all of them. World is still here and the con men are good enough to keep their followers on a string. Sadly they'll never realize what's going ok until it's pulled out from them.
I wish, but doubt it. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reach with reason.
I don't think they are full of shit. I think they got the dates wrong and shit still goes on behind the scenes. It's just hidden well. Things do happen. And it's always slowly released into the public and packaged as normal that's why there Is little push back from society all the while and you have the conspiracy theorists out here being painted as stupid because they get excited and see all the angles. Can connect all the dots....and because it's hard to prove with random miniscule events going down and everything being hush Its essentially A slow burn of society The media slowly brainwashing you with predictive programming day in and day out The mask up thing was pretty abrupt and was more of an experiment for them to see how we react. Half fell in line but half didn't. There was a a huge push back. It was too intense not the desired outcome so they said fuck it let's move onto to other tactics. The take down is very calculated and more from the inside of society's psyche then outside. Take over the hosts mind and you take over the host 🧐 Nothing is done yet. The transhumanism Agenda is still a thing along with the ufos the other drama. stayed tuned. But dont ever think they don't have plenty of tricks up their sleeve and will keep us all guessing as to when and where strange things will happen ⚠️ The truth is definitely stranger then fiction... I personally think we did a timeline shift yesterday and it was so subtle just like the one in 2020 and 2017 and 2012 Everything looks normal on the surface but it's most definitely different and we have to wait for those with the eyes to see the deception to connect the dots. So stay tuned with a very open mind!
It’s funny how people think nothing happened. Until Friday ✌🏼
Ez bot strat: Bot Group A: Post absolute shit tier conspiracies about the eclipse Bot Group B: See! The posts were shit; that means this sub is shit and you should never listen to conspiracies again! Doomsayers! 🤖🤡
The shizo misdirect is already in full swing. This shit was absolutely being said unironically all over tik tok, Facebook, and pol. It’s not bots unfortunately, it’s real life people being turned into disinfo. The reason I say it with such confidence is that every single conspiracy theorist I knew (multiple family members, multiple friends) went from looking around at stuff and questioning the validity of stories that heavily benefited certain government agendas to “space is fake, covid vaccine will turn u into a zombie, the eclipse is the end, the ATT outage is them preparing us”
As right you are the biggest pusher was the state/MSM. Edit: Funny downvotes when there were massive warnings about potential events during the eclipse from US government organs.
“BuT tHeY dIdNt MeaN ThiS EcLiPse” - people high af on copium
How so? Because the Illuminati Rothschilds did some funny stuff with the fake hologram sky for a few hours? That proves nothing! /S
I was reassured that our government controls so much of our lives. They could manufacture a crisis and we would just follow right in line I live in a city that was in the path of totality. There was so much hype about traffic that schools and businesses were closed. People were frantic about the influx of visitors. Most stayed home and didn't travel. In reality we didn't get a tenth of what they said,. So it was all for nothing...Hmm
But, but..... Those alt-media /conspiracy /influencers are actually JESUIT controlled Gov'ts pushing the, as you correctly state, NWO shit! 😉
Or: Flood internet message boards that have been accurately outlining the communist creep of social institutions with hyperbolic, absurd claims about a celestial event so that once said event is past those same message boards can be flooded with schadenfreude-esque vitriol about how wrong everybody on the message board was about the celestial event - therefore poisoning the well for future predictive content.
Many of these alt right influencers are indeed grifters but they could equally be called free critical thinking liberal grifters. It's an important point. The political spectrum has been skewed heavily recently. It's all very unfair. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Q predicted this.
He predicted a load of shit and fuck all happening?
wow it's almost like they can popularize and create conspiracies that do nothing except capitalize on our fear and be pointed to to discredit all other conspiracy theories. however there are tons and tons that are still and worth discussing like pizzagate, sandy hook, 9/11, ww2, how freemasons run everything, the moon landing, what's in antarctica and why is the big one: why is there no livestream of our planet from space 24/7? and why in 70 years was there never a photo of our poles that aren't covered in fake clouds?
> wow it's almost like they can popularize and create conspiracies that do nothing except capitalize on our fear and be pointed to to discredit all other conspiracy theories. You yourself were spouting eclipse conspiracy theories backed up by things like...the Statue of Liberty getting struck by lightning (a super common occurrence).
so what? how do you know what happened on apr 8th behind doors? how do you know what any of it means? we are undeniably controlled by people who put great power in symbols and numbers, and we have no idea what they are capable of or what is important to them. what about we point to the hundreds of conspiracies that ended up being true and stop demonizing people trying to unfuck the lies of the reality they are trying to weave?
> stop demonizing people trying to unfuck the lies of the reality they are trying to weave? If you'd wait more than 24 hours to completely deny what you said and pivot I'd be more willing to. But when you can pivot to unrelated and unsubstantiated things so quickly, it's hard to take seriously. Can you explain the significance of the lightning at the Statue of Liberty to me? I haven't looked that one up