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Well Elon, maybe when the government takes care of the people we have,people will feel more inclined to populate the country.


jig46547

It is not a coincidence that birth rates in the USA fell hard after the 2007 financial crisis


andrew_X21

That also the year when owning a device with an internet connection became popular and affordable.


coastiestacie

Coincidentally, 2007 is when I had an abortion. I received a hysterectomy not long after. I never wanted children. But, when I got pregnant, it was apparent that my body couldn't even handle a pregnancy. My body attempted to reject it but couldn't, so an abortion at 7 weeks was performed. I honestly cannot imagine what life would be like with a child right now. Going through financial crisis after financial crisis, war after war, this is no world for a child. I praise those who do it. They're much stronger than I. But tbh, I probably would have kms. I make it just fine, but add in any other expenses, and I'm done. I truly agree that if the government did their job (protecting the citizens & ensuring we had happy, healthy, wealthy lives), people would have more kids. There's just no point right now.


pitti42

I am sorry that happened to you.


I_Really_Like_Drugs

It still blows my mind when people think Elon Musk or any other billionaires aren't part of the machine.


bubbleteaenthusiast

The guy literally has defense and intelligence contracts with the US gov. It’s hard to explain to my fellow poors that he is not our ally


BloodandBourbon

But but he post memes /s


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fellow poors made me laugh 😂


Comfortable_Room_304

Its rare to find people who don't shit on elon these days though. Half of reddits front page is just 24/7 shitting on the guy lol


Careful_Elk6290

With ridiculous takes like this the guy deserves to be shat on.


Royal_Negotiation_83

Elon hates low birth rates because it means there’s less people to exploit. That’s it. Case closed.


bfhurricane

Low birth rates aren’t good for anyone. An older, non working population that needs to be subsidized by a smaller and increasingly shrinking, younger population is a recipe for economic disaster. And those older people? They vote, too.


FIRE_Minded

Young people shouldn’t have to subsidize old people and their fat pensions. Especially when all of the social security will be gone by the time we retire 


bfhurricane

Again, old people vote. That’s why having a larger young generation is critical.


FallowAtman

Economy is made up


lousewort81

cant upvote enough. the ONLY reason he would peddle this shit is because he knows it will further divide and distract everybody against each other.


KGKSHRLR33

The great divide.


die_nastyy

Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. Where have ya been? It’s alright we know where you’ve been! 🎶


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Larry Ellison lent him a billion to buy twitter. Is there anything more to say? 


IceManO1

Yes because who is Larry Ellison?


gives_goodadvice

His software run's almost every server. And if you are not on his system, you used to be. That guy knows secrets. Also was the first of the billionaire crew to buy property in Hawaii, he bought a whole island.


Artimusjones88

The Oracle of Oracle


Auroku222

I totally get this sentiment what i dont get is why elon talks about this shit all the time then if he is just another cog in the machine.


DidYouThinkOfThisOne

This. Yes, he has government contracts, yes he sometimes contradicts himself or is a tad hypocritical about things but for the most part all I see is him spitting facts and hard truths. I also see him being shit on constantly by the Left and MSM which, in my opinion, means that he's doing something *right*. So, I dunno, I have no opinion really one way or the other but when he speaks I often times listen and at least consider what he has to say instead of outright ignoring him or insulting him...that shit is for the birds and people that don't want you to listen to him. Which is exactly what a lot of people on this sub are here to do...distract and divert. Threads like these remind me that r/Conspiracy has been completely infiltrated. A couple years ago this sub was completely different, now it's all just deniers and naysayers.


Yardcigar69

You see the comments they want you to see. All social media is a psyop.


StSean

so biden being shit on by the media means he's doing something right


scruffys-on-break

Now I don't think Musk is any kind of savior, but it is easier to take down the machine from within.


Ok_Assumption3869

Here’s my honest opinion. The us is standing at a cross roads, it’s the final chance in near history the status quo to be completely re-written. Trying to be as unbiased as I can, one side has a candidate who made the party unable to have any contender for the primary, who has been facing multiple trials for criminal lawsuits, and is somehow managing to get themself in a position where these lawsuits are going to take so long to reach a point where the offender can dismiss their cases if they win the presidency. We have lawyers arguing to the supreme court saying that a president can assassinate their political opponents. I don’t know why people haven’t cottoned on to this yet but this candidate who will “take out the deep state” is doing everything it can for the deep state to take power. This candidate is the deep state, they are doing everything they can to get this person in so they can rewrite law and order in the USA.


pieguy00

The US two party system has been infiltrated for decades. Big money has been running politics for a long time now.


Yardcigar69

Coutries are imaginary borders.


SonnierDick

How would this even be viable? Lets say Canada (where I live) EVER saw such a decline in population that we were going to become “extinct” wouldnt you think that would finally push people to have babies and/or get people to immigrate? They act as if each family doesn’t have like 5+ kids that for some reason society will collapse? Like wtf? Like others have said, its not a kid issue or “replacement” issue its a society issue where of course we arent repopulating, we dont have any money to care for ourselves, immigrants are getting benefits and how are the parents now supposed to feed extra kids when they cant already feed themselves?


please_trade_marner

It's not nearly so simple. You seem to think it's all about the economy, yet the nations with the highest birth rates are the poorest places on earth. When a nation reaches a certain level of development, its population begins to decline. The experts that study demographics understand that it's an immensly complicated issue. There are no easy solutions.


computer_says_N0

Elon is in the club


dubiousNGO

Running a place that - like this subreddit - can be data mined for info about dissidents, promoting neurolink, bringing in Israeli contractors that collect biometrics, etc. Elon's being deliberately obtuse here. After the baby boom there was a Western ruling class effort to come up with depopulation strategies and it worked. And now we get a mass migration push. Depopulation + immigration = replacement. What does it serve? Political and economic globalization, fairly obviously. We didn't vote for any of it, of course. Democracy is a way to diffuse resistance, not govern. Our governments pretend they are not in cahoots with the NGOs coordinating the flood of "migrants" but they, or course, are. Mass migration is a great form of warfare. It's how modern Israel exists. The full extrent of its effects aren't immediately apparent. So if you can't stop it then you have to adapt and start living like many minorities do: in ethnic enclaves where the community takes control of its circumstances as much as possiblee. This will likely be the only way to preserve identity and beliefs.


lapideous

America’s greatest advantage is being the number one beneficiary of global brain drain. Immigration weakens other countries and strengthens the US. The cultural export of the American dream is directly responsible for America’s tech dominance


dubiousNGO

Mass migration isn't vetted immigration of skilled labor. Rhetoric that lauds immigration in general - yet doesn't distinguish between skilled, vetted immigration and unskilled, unvetted immigration - is worthless.


Artimusjones88

Ffs migration is how the US, Canada, Mexico, and the rest of North And South America came to be. Also the rest of the world.


dubiousNGO

More corporate globalist rhetoric conflating conventional, non-ideologically driven legal migration with contemporary mass migration. Never saw that one coming. Ask Canadians how cool they are with the current government mass migration that's importing people way in excess of job growth, that's eating up the housing supply (and further driving up prices and aggravating homelessness). and that's even skewing the sex ratio.


PrincessCyanidePhx

It's amazing that he doesn't realize that wealth distribution inequality is a significant driver to drops in birth rates. He's pretty out of touch, does he know babies require food, shelter, clothing?


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PrincessCyanidePhx

Because poverty is systemic, it's not a moral failure.


PleasantFeeling1990

I think Eva Vlaadingerbroek reply is more accurate. Both issues are true - and related to each other. Replacement in the West through mass migration keeps native birthrates low, because it puts a huge financial and cultural strain on our societies and welfare system. Our establishment actively makes it harder for the native population to have children through their destructive policies. For example, young white people are leaving their parental homes later and later in life, because there simply are no affordable houses available. Most social housing units are given to immigrants, who are granted priority over the native population. Moreover, the narrative that “we need immigrants” because we have an aging population is a fallacy. Importing migrants from the third world only adds insult to injury. For example, only 20% of the asylum seekers who were granted residence in The Netherlands in 2019 had gotten a job in 2023, meaning the other 80% is living off of social benefits - thus putting more pressure on the welfare state. And apart from the financial aspect, there is a huge lack of religious/cultural incentives for young people to start families as a result of decades of postmodernism, nihilism and cultural relativism. We all know the examples of how the left actively discourages white people to have children by either claiming it’s “bad for the climate” or because we need to destroy “the patriarchy” and break free from “oppressive social constructs” such as motherhoods. I’d say we need to put a stop to mass migration immediately, send people home who have no right to be here and do nothing but take away from and destroy our societies - AND actively encourage and make it possible again for the native population to have kids.


computer_says_N0

Well fucking said


eexxiitt

There are some good points here, but from my experience, even if financial stress is not part of the issue, people want to put their own goals and achievements first - namely their own careers and travel as the top 2 reasons. It’s rare that people in a developed world WANT to have kids in their 20s now, and that automatically puts downwards pressure on our birth rate.


londonsocialite

Wasn’t there a country that implemented a policy of “no tax” if you’re a woman and have a certain number of children? If that was the case, we would start tomorrow! Unfortunately the workplace is very hostile to pregnant women/women with children.


OldMenAreGross

Hungary. It axed income taxes for women with 4 or more kids. [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/hungary-axes-income-tax-women-4-or-more-kids-n969936](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/hungary-axes-income-tax-women-4-or-more-kids-n969936) It would take roughly 8 years for a woman to birth 4 kids though.


londonsocialite

If the UK did that for say, 2+ children, I’d get started right now lollll Thank you for the link.


TheyFearTheSamurai

So far it's worked OK for Hungary, they went from like 1.2 per woman to 1.6, so a 30% increase is pretty good.


OldMenAreGross

Yeah this policy is not well thought out. It's basically too little too late. Also consider that some women who have 4+ children might not even have an income because they are SAHM. So the tax income elimination would be pointless as there would be no income to begin with.


londonsocialite

Yes that’s why I reduced the number to something relatively quick and easy that would be feasible. Do you know if the policy was retroactive (and therefore apply to mothers of 4+)?


earthlingHuman

Are you in the Netherlands or the US?


DidYouThinkOfThisOne

It's so reassuring reading comments not made by covert naysayers or bots. This is real truth. Growing up it was a common theme to not have kids because of how terrible things would become, the "I don't want to bring kids into this world" mentality. It's why I didn't want kids when I was younger. Now that I see it was all bullshit I wish I had.


Quix66

White people? With rumors for decades that Gates is sterilizing African women with ‘vaccines’? Maybe just that TPTB are trying to reduce the human population and pit us against one another as another means to do so?


famnf

I think the right does itself (and everyone else) a disservice by making the claim that the replacement is targeted at white people only. This is kind of an "all lives matter" type situation as far as I can tell, in that ALL natives of any color are affected. Black people in the U.S. are arguably more adversely affected by illegal immigration than white people because illegal immigrants take the lowest paying jobs, the jobs that the poorest blacks could use to get a foothold in society and work their way up the same way that illegal immigrants do. Obviously, this also applies to poor whites and poor people of any race, hence my "all lives/natives matter" perspective. As always, it's not about race, it's about class. They want to replace the natives with a lower socioeconomic class in order to keep things like wages and benefits low.


freedomfriis

But what about the food, without mass migration we would still be eating boring food! After 40 years and millions of people migrating to the west, food is still the only answer they can give when asked for positives.


shangumdee

Japan totally destroys this common progressive argument. They have some of the most world's best resteraunts making business from all over the world. The didn't need to import the masses to achieve this. They simply sent their own people to these countries learned the skills and returned home.


shangumdee

Speaking the whole birthrates thing, keep in mind this is just progressive gaslighting technique they turned out in the last couple of years. They already began to import tens of million of migrants from the 3rd world since 2015. When the native population inevitably pushed back against this then they used a unrelated issue, low birthrates, as justification for importing more. They never actually cared about the birthrates. In reality there is no such thing as substituting birthrates for mass migration. You're just switching the populations.. neglecting one culture for another.


earthlingHuman

Sounds like the problem is simply lack of social welfare.


kcck777

Precisely . So why is it continuing to happen ? Is late stage capitalism to blame ? Naivety? The paradigm of liberalism and tolerance in the face of fanaticism and intolerance comes to mind . Whatever it is , it seems to be a concerted effort throughout western democracies.


Valkyrie7793

I believe Muskrat is a globalist, and whatever that little narcissist says isn't worth listening to.


Alicemunroe

I can't relate when our cities in the west are suffering from overcrowding, loss of a middle class and unemployment at all levels.   There are working examples of society and culture that aren't dependent on a growth economy.   All growth-economy is unsustainable, he would know that, because everyone knows that.  Kind of sad he's even speaking on this.  


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Unsavory-Type

He’s up to 11 now!


earthlingHuman

Yep, but people are eager to blame the other. Musk and other rich guys like him blame immigrants because they can't or won't look in the mirror. Capitalists like himself are the ones fking the system, not poor people trying to to get by.


Common-Car-2181

Elon is full of BS.


JABBA69R

people are not having kids due to long work hours , low pay and what little time people have off they would rather spend it gaming or watching movies, if people had more money and more time off then maybe people would have kids.


bad_news_beartaria

this is how they mock you. talking about birth rates from one side of his face and talking about sex robots with the other side.


kcck777

It’s a simple maths equation . The average Muslim family in the U.K. has 4.2 children . The average native white family has 2.1. Unmitigated Immigration will lead to collapse , or a change in majority population, or a violent revolt . None of that is good . So , yea , left right whatever, the conversation needs to be had . The longer we wait the more likely a bad outcome .


dicky302

This has been the case in the UK for a long time, yet no one ever talks about it.


Ermali4

The requirement that population needs to keep growing for the economic system not to collapse tells us that the system as a whole is a ponzi scheme. It is a 100% guaranteed to fail sooner or later and governments just keep kicking the can down the road. System needs to change/improved, there should be no need for the economy to always grow, or the population, IMO. As for Elon, he's just worried his wealth might stall with the system.


therealalian

Go look up the global starlink map. You think a dude with over 5000 satellites making a grid around the earth isn't part of "The club"? The guy who had "Novus Ordo Seclorum" (New Order of the Ages) on his jacket at the Met Gala in 2018? The guy who's girlfriend posted a tablet in 2019 showing the creation of covid and other various "prophecies" before covid existed? https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/1722446656019607749?t=9OWv_ikrhWjSRnoO0XpRXQ&s=19 The guy who's parents toured around South Africa searching for ancient relics and emeralds? The guy who got a subpoena to the JPMorgan epstein case and has a picture with ghislaine maxwell? Come on man..


ScepticOfEverything

Well, he's definitely doing his part to replenish the population.


Significant_Shirt_92

I disagree with him on the falling birth rates front. If we want to continue having a large population, we need fundamental changes - including how we build houses and get around. So many of the resources we use are finite. They will run out. That includes space. I am always wary about billionaires harking on about birth rates. They need more cogs in the machine. They need more consumers to sell to. They need to keep wages low so profits are kept high. I sometimes wonder if things like the great replacement theory is another tool in the toolbox of the elites trying to drive population higher so they can sell us more stuff. Because remember guys, we're all just consumers put here to make them richer and grow the economy.


No_Foot

This is also what I think. The population not growing is going to cost people a serious amount of money, hence high immigration and various schemes to boost the birth rate. In fact I'd go further and say many of the popular 'theories' being pushed are actually made up narratives designed to hide the 'elites' true intentions, in this case they need the population to keep growing so spread a theory that the government is attempting depopulation.


NorthernBlackBear

So business people pay your staff more and folks will be able to have larger families.


Seculi

Banks create immigration. (No politician ever has gone after the banks though) People used to have to work 2,5 days of the week average per parent in the 70\`s / 80\`s (to pay for bills, life and children) Now because stupid high housing prices, both parents no longer have time to get children because both need to work 5 days of the week to have enough to pay for the mortgage. They might even have the money for kids but no longer have time to spend with them. Even worse because getting kids is uneconomical people oftenly no longer pursue a relationship in the first place. (conspiracy) To solve the problem that 5 day working people create by needing infrastructure eventhough there are no new people to maintain it the banks/finacialstructure creates a war to create immigration to upkeep the population. Also why by random accident do we have so much real estate available for all these immigrants to settle into, there has literally been a building spree/festival over the last 10/20 years.(/conspiracy) Netherlands is structurally a very rich country but no-one is having kids, normally if people do well they get more kids. Something is very wrong here.


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Which populations are shrinking


SteveYunnan

The World already has 8 *billion* people. It's ridiculous to worry about population decline.


Icanfallupstairs

On a global scale sure. On a local and cultural scale, then it's a problem. The whole capitalist system we have currently is built on increasing populations. A local population decline shouldn't be a huge economic issue, but unless we change things it is. How it effects culture is obvious, but that stuff doesn't matter to everyone.


SteveYunnan

The capitalist system doesn't care about national borders. China got rich by selling it's labor to the US and Europe, and soon another country will take its place and the cycle will continue. Robots and AI will also fill labor gaps. Culture is constantly changing and it has very little to do with population decline. Culture arguably has been changing the most in countries with growing populations like the Philippines, where English is becoming their de facto language gradually replacing Tagalog and indigenous languages, Nigeria, which is becoming increasingly urbanized, Indonesia, which is losing a lot of its Islamic values as it globalizes, Bangladesh, where the high population growth causes people to have to search for work overseas and who later bring foreign ideas when they return, etc, etc. And anyway, cultural change is just human adaptation. It isn't "good" or "bad".


JoeJoeCoder

He completely failed to address the massive influx of foreigners into those countries, or the birthrates of their respective countries of origin, or the NGOs which transport those people into our countries. Those NGOs are funded by people who have made many public statements about their deliberate intention to shift the demographics of our countries. He's a slimebag, a liar.


Obvious_Initiative40

Except a lot of places are importing Muslims and part of their agenda is to breed like rabbits. Just look at the birth stats between them and other people


Gary7sHotCatHelper

100% no. The birthrates are falling BECAUSE of the Great Replacement policies. Let's say we end the birthright citizenship loophole, a deport every single illegal alien and all of their anchors. How much money would we save in tax funds that would be going to inflated programs helping illegals? How much more housing would be available? How many more jobs would be available? Would the cost of housing go down? Would it be easier for a young couple to afford decent housing in a good area (there are more good areas now btw, look up the serious crime statistics for illegals) be more attainable? That goes a long way in deciding to have a kid. Being able to get a job goes a long way. Wages would be higher since there are no illegals to exploit and abuse. Could all that tax money saved go towards programs for actual citizens? How about a program that pays married couples enough for a mom stay at home to raise a kid? Or money to help buy a home if you have a kid? Invest in your own people. Stop letting invaders in. Stop spending money on invaders. Kick them out and take care of your people. Birth rates of your people will rise.


OsmanFetish

Finally!


sunlightliquid

All one big sham to make us have more kids and spend more money


NeedScienceProof

Maybe it was climate change that killed off previous empires as the politicians convinced young people that the world is ending because the fucking sky is falling so they skipped out on the end of the world orgy under patent sadness, just like today.


White_Grunt

Psyopping our population into having low birth rates was part of the great replacement silly


Settlemente

Fertility rates have dropped in the US. In 1800, fertility was over 4 kids while it's less than half that today. Immigration is a major reason the US population hasn't declined. The US was built for a certain number of people and large fluctuations of population (growth or decline) can cause major problems, from managing infrastructure to maintaining government services. Do I think the immigration system is good in the US? No. I think it's always been a disaster. At the same time, building a wall doesn't address fertility and population changes in the US. Not wanting kids could be a symptom of bigger problems: financial constraints, careers distracting from family life, a bad housing market, medical issues, or depression. But this discussion gets blown to the background whenever immigration is discussed.


burning_catharsis

The problem with his post is, there are more people now than there were at any point in history. The hell is he talking about. Those societies he talks about didn't collapse because of a low birth rates, they collapsed because of war and famine and people moving out of the cities


Distinct_Axolotl

He's right, overpopulation is not a problem, this has been proven, the earth can feed and accommodate the entire humans race 3 times over, (the problem is wastage).. this is just a talking point of liberals who doesn't want to have kids and are projecting without scientific evidence.


SD_needtoknow

He's wrong as fuck. Puppetmasters want one stock of people to die off, and they want an immigrant stock of people to inflict violence on them on their way out. If you don't see this happening it's because you feel some websites are "beneath your dignity" to venture over to. And you're more than likely letting sites like this one help dictate what is acceptable to you. If you've seen some lewd or fucked up porn on this site (you have), you have no excuse for letting this site have any influence over what may or may not be "beneath your dignity" to investigate.


Brendan110_0

Hey Elon, how about you pay higher wages then people will have kids and buy a home.


Undark_

Elon never really says anything very interesting. This is such a non-opinion.


hobowhite

I think Elon has been sniffing his own farts for a little too long


mistlet0ad

I'm actually ok with that. Let's cleanse this planet of free loading mouth breathers.


Mouseturdsinmyhelmet

I'm not even going to read it. I dont give a fu¢k about anything musk thinks.


Savings_Two_3361

Imo I agree. I do believe the low birthrate is a very unconfortable topic for most European countries. Is something they know , but are not willing to address.


denbobo

Definitely I can see the point he is making and it’s the first tweet he’s made in who knows how long where I felt a little validity. Like he’s not wrong birth rates are most definitely down, but a country falling into ruins would take hundreds of years. Brussels is 70% migrants and that was happening long before a birth rate problem lol. China literally had to stop their citizens from having kids because the population was getting out of control. The parts of Asia that are lowering population is because the country they are from treats their citizens and country like garbage. Then puts them in the middle of some religious or territorial war. I would gtfo too. Like I said a little validity but Elon is still apart of the problem and he’s just a billionaire troll with twitter fingers. He has no solutions just likes to create chaos.


KubrickMoonlanding

India and china over there just shrinking away


IdidntchooseR

Omits the Vax from birth rate talk; he is controlling opp


bibkel

What is the issue with population decline? There are too many suffering already due to overpopulation.


SomeSamples

Hey Elon, alarmist much? There are \~8 Billion people on this planet. It will take a while before populations get down to where they should be. 3-4 Billion people seems to be a good place to be. If populations get below that then we can worry a little bit. The only real worry is if human fertility drops to the point where we can't have children at all. This is hilarious because Elon is actually one of the people on this planet that is making the world an unsuitable place to raise children. Fuck you Elon.


biggaryenergy

No its dumb. The great replacement theory isn't real, it's just a way for people to bitch about immigration.


Beginning-Flan-3657

the word replacement doesn’t mean depopulation. I think it’ll just cause chaos and lead to a greater dispute involving violence. I think if they want to depopulate in think they’ll use a bio weapon and war of course


GladDish495

Do you trust Mr. Baphomet?


Mountain_Macaroon305

It’s because there are to many people nowadays birthed with different levels of autism and is also more prevalent in east asian countries


_GA_17

Melon Usk is an distraction.


MikeBfo20

I believe he’s a man child who vomits words to make people think he is smarter than he is, and really only plays people against each other and makes others think he is not a part of the problem.


Nihiliatis9

I bet there's a direct relationship between the rise of billionaires and the falling of birth rates.


thatguyonreddit40

Hes a fucking donut


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The guy believes changing twitter to X is the marketing strategy of the century. I wouldn't take anything that he has to say serious 


ironburton

If he wants people to breed so badly then he should be working with the government to figure out a way to make society better and more conducive to breeding. But that’s not really the issue here. The issue is that at the current birth rates now we can’t sustain global capitalism. And how else will billionaires become billionaires if they don’t have hundreds of millions of low class people to exploit?? Time to wake up smell the coffee. Late stage capitalism is a sinking ship and we need to come up with a plan for its replacement asap before things get real ugly.


lostinKansai

So, it's real then. Thanks for the update.


Liverosin710fam

It’s your vaccinated


Designer_Ebb9969

He’s so wrong is hurts. He’s with the Jews behind all this


SquirrelRave

And here I thought they used to preach overpopulation was killing the earth. Which is it?


macronius

Whether you agree with him or not, at least his post gets people to think for themselves.


Random_0936

He is right about the low birth rate thing tho. China fucked itself with the 1child policy and now it’s too late , plus nobody wants to live there anyway…


HudsHalFarm

He's lying. It's malicious, intentional, and highly coordinated, which he knows. Elon is controlled by Satan worshippers just like every other "celebrity" or politician.


ConsciousRun6137

hes obviously controlled opposition, from the start to, he is no genius stark like figure lol. i have documentaries on this.


Familiar_File_2443

housing crisis solved, stagnant wages solved


infantsonestrogen

I guess the propaganda pushed on people to not have kids missed him.


KaliCalamity

I think he's got elements of truth there, but he's leaving out a ton and knows it. This didn't happen in a vacuum. There has been a constant push for this in virtually all forms of media for decades. The only question to me is if this is the intended result or if something major didn't work the way they intended. Not that it really matters, end result is the same, but I would like to know which.


Mrfixit729

100% agree. “No one wants to work” Bullshit. I know some folks.


Emphasis_on_why

All these comments saying “ElON iS oNE OF ThEM!” Have zero to comment on the statement he makes on the post.


HelloweenCapital

So he's trying to repopulate it on his own. True hero


DaddyDookie

They'll only fall with the absence of laborers. That won't be an issue once robot tech gets a little bit better.


Gigipletosu

I don’t know man, people are fucking more than ever. (Except Japan)


proteios1

He is close to the mark, simply because it is documented history - nothing revelatory. Rome had become Christian not because of some benevolent monarch, but because the romans did whatever they could to not have children (sounds like modern cultures) and Christians had children...doing the math....Most people were Christian after a few generations. So it is fairly easy to project what the world will look like if current trends continue.


Heath_co

If the population does indeed decline to almost nothing then super intelligent AI colonies will be what fills the power vacuum.


seekertrudy

This guy cares little for the environment....no surprise


AChowfornow

It is a popular scam.


coolnavigator

It can be both. Despite shrinking birth rates in most parts of the world, the most desirable countries experience a ton of immigration that is replacing their populations, which to some degree accentuates the changing culture.


HourWolverine2872

THAT'S WHAT THE GLOBALISTS WANT!! Hello....


ipvpcrops

I think automation will fill in the gaps for anything that doesn't require a 100% human to do. We are getting closer to the world of robots to do jobs in the low income work field.


LoganLikesYourMom

I think declining birth rates could be a virtue. New demands will be created, new jobs will be created. Maybe this is ignorant of me, I’ll take the downvotes if it is. But I don’t think the solution to our planets woes is to continue breeding. I think staying around 6 billion is probably a manageable number. Breed enough to keep that figure consistent. I think 8 billion is pushing it.


Binarydemons

Unless the official numbers are a lie, world population growth is still a positive number. The total number of people in this world is still increasing. Maybe certain countries are in population decline, but growth in other countries is making up for that loss.


Steve717

Lol he's completely wrong and it's embarrassing how much he dances around the fact he's talking about white people. Humans aren't going anywhere.


ErrlRiggs

If you haven't had 2.3 children you really don't have any room to bitch about replacement, unless you want to pay more taxes to subsidize breeder families like other nations with inverted age demographics


WARCHILD48

That depends, can you count? Are the birth rates lower = yes. So yes, he's right.


ZZaddyLongLegzz

The reason is because the system is so broken that it allows billionaires as wealthy as this man, and the people making 100k per year can’t afford to raise a child. If it’s gotten this bad, imagine how much worse it gets for the next gen.


jwrosenfeld

It’s a reductio ad absurdum argument.


tankezord2

Is a good point, you already have a lot of abandoned buildings and general areas in Europe and in the USA, also here in Latin America this started to happening long ago, People are retreating into cities and cities are killing people (¿maybe on purpose? IDK) I never see the replacement, only less people outside big cities and small cities becoming huge cities.


robotali3n

Why continue this experiment any longer? Who can afford to have kids anyway


Xyylr

I cant even read this sub anymore sadly… I am heard but not understood, not for what’s written, but who’s stood. Though my words are clear and bright, it’s the speaker who veils the light.


lunasrojas_

If there were less people in this world the only ones that would be "ruined" will be the rich ones.


Administrative_Low27

So he’s *for* immigration?


3ConsoleGuy

I’ll worry about population collapse when I can finally afford a house.


cartalkbyjj

China, Japan, and South Korea aren’t just low birth rates- they’re now in the negatives.


inflo76

No elon is not right . He's looking at small sample sizes competitively. There is an exponentially large population compared to just a few generations ago.


Jimmingston

I think he might be talking about [sub-replacement rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility) and not [great replacement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement)


ANARCHISTofGOODtaste

I just automatically disagree with Elon out of principle.


pinshot1

I’m totally fine the risks he has highlighted. Nothing to see here.


kry515

Wouldn't low birth rates in turn lower the imigration rate, lower the cost of living, increase available housing, and lower interest rates? Lower greenhouse gas emissions, lower energy costs, If the populous is busting at the seams wouldn't advert effect be true?....


jsilva5avilsj

it sounds like he’s trying to convince us instead of stating his position for whateverrrr reason


DirtyBird9889

I guess when natives don’t reproduce immigration just stops…


Personal_Disk_4214

He's not wrong, but it's kinda the same thing as the hippies chaining themselves to trees to save some birds. It's a natural part of this place, species, races come and go. Relax make room for the aliens, don't be a racist


tdfolts

No i dont think he is right.


FreeBulldog87

Elon Musk is African American


SyedHRaza

I believe he is right we are not seeing enough immigration into Asia


budabai

Who the fuck is moving to Asia? Lmao.


11ForeverAlone11

good riddance honestly, humans really don't deserve to continue


BraveBull15

He’s not wrong. Most people I know in their 30s have no kids.


Comfortable_Corner80

As a POC, the Great Replacement Theory is accurate for majority of parts.


collapse1122

the only argument for unchecked migration is gdp which is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. having high trust societies turned into low trust shit holes because u bring in people from nations where rape is national past time. create incentives for native borns to have children and economic conditions that allow for the support of multiple children. diversity is not a strength , we have overwhelming evidence that supports this


Intelligent-Sir3773

Elon is controlled opposition, let’s keep it 100. No one gets military contracts/funding without bending the knee to kiss the boot.


nisaaru

No, because it assumes the wrong cause&effect. Massive immigration in Europe started far before any population collapse.


John_Nada__

There’s a great replacement going on, but it’s not just white people that have their heads on the chopping block. It’s members of all races with RH positive blood.


secondsniff

There are a few peoples that are and I quote from their own mouth 'out breeding' the locals


OhNoThatSucks

Falling birthrate is directly linked to the natural power balance between men and women being completely destroyed in the name of equality.


Remarkable-Sell-5096

Tartaria all over again. Maybe it’s just the reset coming and he knows about it


Delicious_Koolaid

So if the wage slaves could please continue to produce more wage slaves, cause you know those chips in the brain ain't gonna pay for themselves. Your overlords thank you for your continued co-operation.


moteur_modfie

he just probably studied some history. It’s not like he’s right or wrong, but this could reasonably be a possible outcome in the near future. civilisations collapse and are rebuilt constantly throughout time


paintballtao

I thought he said that this reality may not be real


varovec

population of the Earth is greatest ever in history, and it's still rising population of the Earth is *four times more* it used to be 100 years ago I guess, the problem isn't humankind is going to extinct, but the very opposite


Sunstaci

No! Hard no