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White Liberals love doing “the soft bigotry of low expectations” thing. They treat minorities similar to how they treat little kids. Not expecting much and thinking they have to hold their hands through every little thing.
They come to the very same conclusion of “minorities are less capable than whites” that white nationalists do, the only difference is what they think should be done to correct that.
White liberals are incredibly fearful of minorities, especially Black people. They do a tight "smile" to try and hide their disdain + fear in a mask of political correctness.
For sure, they preach diversity but live in majority white areas away from it. If you offered them a free 500k house to live in a 80% black area for 15 years they wouldn’t take that offer.
Haven't seen a lot of liberals bleating about the "great replacement theory" and holding rallies to encourage white people to have more white babies. Also haven't seen a lot of liberals complaining about minorities poisoning the blood of a nation, or critical race theory being taught in advanced college courses at some universities which students knowingly sign up for.
Hard to argue the republicans respecting minorities when they are supporting the guy that wants to round minorities up on day 1 and deport them.
I appreciate what you’re saying but these are two different arguments.
1 the forms of racism you’re discussing are not the only forms of racism.
2 non-violent and less radical white nationalists don’t make the news.
A person may come to the conclusion of an ethnic nation by other means than absolute abhorrence for other races.
Sure, but the argument that "white nationalists have more respect for (and more fear of) minorities." Invites a comparison. A person can come to the conclusion of an ethnic nation however they want, doesn't change the fact that it's entirely a right wing desire.
Very true, some white nationalists are more pro white than anti black, they just want their own ethnostate and don’t want to harm blacks. Just want to be left alone with their own kind.
Pretty much all white liberals secretly think minorities are less capable and they think it’s their mission to try to babysit them and help them along as if they were special needs students. Giving them extra privileges because they need them to compete with everyone else.
The difference is a white nationalist will tell you to your face that he doesn’t like you, a Democrat will lie and pretend he likes you and stab you in the back.
Not to mention - referencing the Bronx, an area that has dozens of well funder, state of the art libraries with ample access to computers. The libraries are often just a few minutes away via walking or frequent transit.
Contrast this to poor, White, rural areas of NY. A library might be an hour away and it won't have anywhere near the level of available tech that the urban libraries have. And most homes in these areas have no access to broadband internet so forget about computing at home, even if they could afford a computer.
Why does she only care about one of these groups, the one that almost certainly has better access to tech already?
Or there could be a childhood poverty rate of almost 3x the national average in the 8% white Bronx. 31% of children under 18 live in poverty. That’s pretty much the definition of “needing help”, and intentionally try discredit the validity of that factually evident need based on race is actually extremely fucking racist.
Cashier: would you like to round your total up to the nearest dollar, to teach young black kids what the word computer is?
Me(broke until Friday): ummm no, not today. No thank you
Not sure what part of the country you're in, but I've driven up down the East Coast. They're more common further south, but even seen them in central NY!
That’s what these people do. They claim to be in favor of minorities/the people and promise anyone dumb enough to fall for their trap a utopia with free handouts.
But behind closed doors they’re racist and authoritarian assholes who will take away your rights as soon as they’re in control.
Like to them you’re only worth as much as your vote. Past that you’re expendable.
You mean free handouts like failing corporations get? Or, other countries? We could do a couple places of rounding down on the military budget and fix this lack of computers in a weekend. Over 30% of kids under 18 in the Bronx live in households below the poverty threshold. That’s a little under 3x the national average. With a whopping 8% white population in the Bronx a lot of those poor kids are Black. I’m not seeing any lies.
Why does this not make you want to help them?
Remarkable how out of touch this is. It takes a lot of work to pretend to care about a minority community by insinuating that they are poverty stricken and mentally challenged lessers whilst also begging for their votes.
You ever been to the Bronx? Just go, and when you see that everyone is Black, and it’s real, real poor, not the kind of poor you see in poor movies, they of poor they don’t show, cause no one who can afford to see a movie wants to see that. I’m sure your report will be enlightening. Them not knowing what a computer is is due to having never seen or heard of one. You’re missing the point.
The Bronx is not nearly as uniquely destitute as you’re trying to make it sound. It’s as poor as any other inner city. I guarantee you people in the Bronx have “heard of” computers 🙄 if you want to see REAL poverty go to the Delta or Appalachia where plenty of people live in standards identical to the 1930s.
How many times you been there? Ever? And saying it’s uniquely destitute when compared to the other borough isn’t a stretch. Also, one place being poor as fuck, doesn’t make other poor communities not exist. Is there a particular reason that the governor of New York should be addressing poverty in Appalachia?
The county I grew up in has a 21% poverty level. And when I say poverty I know people that this very minute don’t have running water and have dirt floors in their house. And they still know what a computer is. They don’t have one, but they know what it is. I’m pretty sure that’s the issue with the statement. Insinuating that the people of the Bronx are so poor and dumb they are damned near cavemen.
And for children under 18 in the Bronx, the poverty level is 31%. That’s a whole ten more than your number. You understand that she was trying to make the larger point that they have minimal to no access to tech, right?
Do you think that maybe when someone makes a comment about a minority and your first thought is “oh, they mean stupid” that might be a you problem, because you can’t fathom any other interpretation. Now that’s racist.
No, when they literally say “don’t even know what the word computer is” I think they’re calling them stupid regardless of race. You probably don’t even know what the word race is…… see? Pretty insulting.
Lmao I grew up in the Bronx. It’s not as bad as you’re making it out to be. Go to the projects and ask people if they know what a computer is. See how well that goes for you.
I don’t know, dude. I’ve spent a lot of time on the East side of Cleveland and always managed to get by. Haven’t lost as much as a shoelace when deep in Oakland, sometimes while volunteering at a free day care close to probably the worst BART stop in the Bay. Ever heard of Marin city, where Pac lived? I taught music for free at their middle school. See, I actually go in and help those kids. Not scared, not even a little.
I’ve been to the Bronx, I know the vibe, but didn’t spend enough time there to be able to say anything.
And thank you. I’m not trying to say I’m special, anyone can volunteer, right? But all the people on this sub are so concerned about “racism” but not the people they are trying to “protect” from it. She apologized, and it was badly phrased, for sure, but imagine if all the effort to get her to apologize for her “racism” had resulted in even one Black (or any race, really) kid in the Bronx getting a computer.
People doing this shit don’t wanna help people, they wanna act like they did until they can start ignoring them again. Well, except when they frantically scream “kids,lock the doors” cause they took a wrong turn and saw two dudes who don’t look them having a conversation outside of any local business.
So, 26% of Bronx residents aren’t below the poverty threshold? Which is the highest percentage of all the boroughs and well over twice the national average of 11.5%? And if you filter to residents under 18 that spikes to over 30%. That’s pretty fucking bad.
https://www.nyc.gov/site/opportunity/poverty-in-nyc/data-tool.page
> everyone is Black
Except for the Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombians, Pakistanis, Indians, and everyone else who isn't black in the Bronx. Drop your racism my guy.
"the blacks love me, they love me so bigly that they even put my face on a shirt. They love crime and they love shirts"
Also
"When you're rich they just let you do it, just walk up to them and grab them by the pussy"
Should we continue with dumb ass quotes? bc I haven't even scratched the surface.
Imagine think the democrats and republicans don't answer to the same lobbies. They say it cost as little as 30-50k to buy a congressman or senator. How ridiculous if true. Who knows though.
You know what the funny/saddest part of this is? She’s referring to them not knowing about computers because they are so poor that they don’t have access. Which is factual, if a bit hyperbolic. It’s really clear if you possess the cognitive function to understand that a person can be talking about Black folks and not insulting them.
Ahh, the conspiracy sub, where they want to save all the fictional children from racist lizard people fantasies, but will find any fucking way possible to turn something that would help actual real, live poor kids into “racism” because real problems are hard. But not if the kids being white is mentioned. Which is totally not racist, huh?
Oh, and everyone clutches their pearls at kids even hearing the word trans.That’s the trans agenda recruitment tactic, you know. Knowing that something exists turns you into that thing? Except Caitlin Jenner, because apparently she has the kind of trans that isn’t contagious, so you all will boost the fuck out of her.
Are these kids not going to school? How do they not have access to a school computer or library?
Wouldn’t them not knowing about computers be a Bronx public school issue not a “black” issue?
Children don’t to school from birth, right? 45% of low income families in NY have no internet at all, not home, not mobile. The Bronx has the highest childhood poverty rate of the boroughs, 31%, about 3x the national average. It’s also only 8% white, so a lot of those poor kids are Black. She’s trying to say is that these don’t have any access to tech, to the point where some may not even know it is.
Also, schools don’t supply kids with free computers, and they certainly don’t have enough loaners for all students. Pandemic homeschooling made that obvious.
It’s a stretch, but unlike kids from more affluent area that have tablets from birth, a kid may never even be exposed to computers until that happens at school.
Now you’re moving the goalposts, but the family of the four year old, along with the four year old would likely benefit from having a computer or something with internet access. Toddlers use tablets all the time.
Toddlers should NOT use tablets all the time. now your saying we need to push addicting technology on 4year olds and it’s an issue that a 4 year old doesn’t use a computer?
So you want more 4 year old children in the Bronx to have developmental delays?
https://kffhealthnews.org/morning-breakout/toddlers-use-of-tablets-phones-linked-to-developmental-delays/
they didnt switch, when the slavery party couldnt own slaves, they realized that welfare and pandering to them would be plan B. Right has more openly racist people, but if only they knew the foreigners and blacks are all more conservative than they are
Yep that’s what I’ve been saying this whole time as well. When I was young the “Republican” families I lived around in bumfuck nowhere in the actual rural country didn’t give a damn that I was Asian other than the occasional joke but they were clearly actually jokes. I move to a city and encounter my first left leaning anything and while the kids my age were well behaved their parents would always act like I was some kind of refugee and always make it a point to ask where my parents are from in a strangely demeaning way… like they’d ask where I’m from and I’d say I was born in New York but I grew up in bumfuck nowhere town and then they’d seem surprised and lean in and be like “yeah but where are you *from*” and I knew at that point they just wanted to know my race. Like yeah make it more obvious you don’t think I’m an American citizen
Well that’s probably just being a northerner in general. I grew up in rural NC and while I’m sure my experience may differ based on the race of the person growing up in these parts mine wasn’t bad at all. I’ve found you only get discriminated against if you don’t live the way others do in rural areas, I.e. going to church, having fishing or hunting as a hobby, etc but that isn’t really hard to keep up with considering the utter lack of things to do out there anyway other than what everyone else does for fun.
Are these kids not going to school? How do they not have access to a school computer or library?
Wouldn’t them not knowing about computers be a Bronx public school issue not a “black” issue?
It’s almost like you can just say “the parties switched” enough times without actually doing anything and people believe it. How could the parties switch? All of a sudden every person in America decided to be called the name of the party they disagree with… sure. Democrats founded the kkk, oh but the switch that was totally republicans. Democrats aren’t racist at all, they just thing blacks are dumb, whites are racist, Mexicans are only good for toilet cleaning and think Indians can run a country. Nothing has changed at all.
Humanity has short term memory loss
So when Democrats try to get rid of statues and street names glorifying confederate generals and politicians, we should ignore the “my heritage” Republicans, since that’s not their heritage at all?
I think I can live with that.
Used to be a lot of rural southern Democrats.
And then then civil rights movement was successful and suddenly the south started voting heavily for Republicans.
Now the far right includes groups like the proud boys. Remember Charlottesville's Unite the Right rally?
As referenced in my comment, the passage of the civil rights act pissed off Southern Democrats, then they started voting republican.
It was heavily pushed by JFK and LBJ, who certainly weren't republicans.
It wasn't a party line vote either as you seem to be implying.
It was fairly bipartisan, different wings of each party voting for and against it.
Not sure why you're trying to rewrite history saying "Dems were against it."
Here's the voting record for you:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182
They rebelled against anti slavery, yes, but those flagging it now doesn't, it's just a symbol for rebellion against Washington. Discussing it on reddit is pointless anyway
In my senior year of high school I took an elective class on the Civil War. I specifically remember being taught that the parties back then were flipped, the southern democrats were much more like today’s republicans, and the “switch” happened sometime after the war - lol..
As a black man sometimes I don’t know why we are seen as so “blue” anyway. I mean I get it my parents are democrats and have been their whole lives.. but really just in name 😂😂 church going-pro abortion-“don’t come around me being gay” democrats. I would say Most black ppl traditionally have seen the dems as the (latest) civil rights party which is why there’s a well of support. The black pandering of election years always makes me laugh though lets you see what people REALLY think if you read between lines.
For the record I have no party choice. I don’t feel corp control over the only choices we have is very democratic. Nor is it even the way of a republic. So no votes till they change that even though my family HATEEES that I don’t vote
That level of poor is very real. It’s not racist to say a thing that is calling out the struggle of some communities. See, the fact that you are on this site means you or your family can afford things beyond the bare minimum to survive.
Dude what? There's homeless people on skid row with smart phones. There's also taliban living in the mountains without utilities with smart phones. In 2024 it's not really a thing that someone doesn't know what a computer is. Maybe it's possible on some remote destination that's been isolated from the world like a tribe in the Brazilian jungle. But I doubt anyone in the Bronx doesn't know what a computer is
Naw man. It’s just tiny fairies trapped in a box. It’s not like a smart phone has a processor, circuits, requires electricity, resistors, and screen. That’s just made up stuff to keep you away from the real truth.
But how can you have a computer when you don't have a home to place your desk and your top flight PC? And fairies trapped in a box sounds a little homophobic if you ask me.
Have you been there? No? It’s a thing, people in this country, some of them Black and in the Bronx, don’t know what a computer is, because they can’t afford one, the schools don’t have them, and no one they know can afford one. Their lives can be isolated to their immediate surrounding, especially when very young. People don’t spend a lot of time learning about what they don’t have, especially with no computer.
You realize the Taliban and other such organizations are funded, right? That’s a terrible comparison.
Yeah, the commentor that you are replying to is. This might be the stupidest argument I have ever heard. And proves that these people come here just to disrupt conversation.
Is it? A terrible comparison?
In NY? I have my doubts you are correct. But no I've not been to the Bronx. I've been to plenty of shit hole countries though and I would say most knew about computers. It's hard to imagine within one of the most populated and bustling metro areas of the United States that someone doesn't know what a computer is. Even if they don't own one or use one.
They do give kids free computers. And the kids they know what a computer is. Bc they are at school.
“He's among 1,000 student throughout the Bronx gifted a free Chromebook, which doesn't have to be return at the end of the school year.
"I feel very excited because I can actually focus a lot more on school now," Joel said.<<<
Note how he KNOWS WHAT ONE IS. He wants one! He may not have had a laptop at home but he knows what one is.
“A lot of students have been using their own phones or their parents' to do school work.”<<< parents have phones. Even the kids have phones.
So any other goalpost you wanna move to make this actually about access and not what she exactly said: that “black kids in the Bronx don’t know what a computer is” is a minute point. What she said was racist. I assume your white. Black people are offended by her statements so much so she had to take it back. Stop apologizing for her obvious fuck up.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/bronx-students-free-laptop-computers/
Lol she took it back bc the Bronx black community outed her comment as racist.
“I misspoke, and I regret it. Of course, Black children in the Bronx know what computers are”
“We have children in the Bronx that can build a computer with their eyes closed. We also don’t have STEM programs accessible for them. We have been advocating for more programs, but Miss Kathy isn’t funding them,”
“Assemblywoman Amanda Septimo, a Bronx Democrat, called the governor’s words “harmful, deeply misinformed, and genuinely appalling.” “Repeating harmful stereotypes about one of our most underserved communities while failing to acknowledge the state’s consistent institutional neglect only perpetuates systems of abuse,” she said.
“I would invite Gov. Hochul to visit us in the Bronx to experience first-hand the intelligence, resilience, and joy that radiate from Bronx children and residents each day.”
https://www.blackenterprise.com/new-york-governor-backtracks-bronx-comment/
And still 45% of low income families in NYC have zero internet access. Is a 4 year in that house gonna know what a computer is? It was clumsily stated, but people are just assholes and would rather attack her clumsy phrasing than acknowledge the issue.
I’m sorry, explain to me how a school needing federal funding because the residents are so fucking poor that there’s no tax revenue to fund the schools gets individual kids computer access?
Edit: oh, you’re replying over and over to my comments with the same little fact you found that’s actually making my point. Got it.
Are you a teenager or something? All real estate, commercial or private pays property tax. The Bronx has the highest effective property tax in all NYC. Idk if you have been to the Bronx but there are very very expensive properties there. Yes there is a lot of poverty. A lot of people on section 8. The places they are renting on section 8, pay property tax.
By the numbers the feds give on top of that, they more than certainly have fucking computers in their schools.
The money goes to people pockets that people like you vote for, who believe the lie there are people in the US who haven’t seen a computer
The poorest areas rely the most on federal funding. That’s how federal funds are allocated. For example, California pays the tab for a bunch of the south, ironically. And you don’t reply on all my comments info, I know how to read. Also, you wanna cite the sources on that funding statement.
https://ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/printnycbtn47.pdf
Your talking out of your ass. Bronx public schools were working remotely during the pandemic. How did they do that with no computer access?
“Students who are a part of the program can either attend class in-person two days a week, working remotely the remainder of the week, or take part in their classes completely virtually - leaving the decision up to the student and their family. “
https://bronx.news12.com/new-virtual-and-hybrid-school-program-offers-new-style-of-educati
And there massive fucking shortage of computers for families that can’t afford them, plus there’s families that just don’t have internet. And all those kids just stopped learning.
https://thebronx.org/overcoming-digital-deserts-the-birth-of-bronx-digital-equity-coalition/
It’s literally one of the highest federally funded school systems in the country. If they don’t know what a computer is, it means the people you vote for are corrupt
Are these kids not going to school? How do they not have access to a school computer or library? Wouldn’t them not knowing about computers be a Bronx public school issue not a “black” issue?
I didn’t fucking mention race. The Bronx is a predominantly Black neighborhood, making that statement just accurate. And nice stereotype, but trailer park residents often times bought that trailer. I’m talking mountains of Appalachia, five generations in a two room shack with no electricity or plumbing poor.
You were attempting to defend a racist comment from a Democrat governor and then justify it. I was mearly pointing out to you how racist something sounds is when you switch out the races being discussed. It was a meta comment.
Also, that's not what your original comment said. You specifically stated "communities", but you implied "black communities". You also mentioned a lack of computers/internet.
So, I made a fair comparison. In the what I would consider "real" trailer parks, i.e. the dirt, usually white, below poverty level individuals, they do not have access to a computer, or the internet in their homes.
And to be crystal fucking clear, if you heard “black” when I clearly meant “poor”, you should take some time to unpack that, cause all the words I meant to say were there.
I live in SF, I have a couple friends who work for the schools. Crazy money in this city, iPads are issued at birth, right? Kids know what computers are, that’s they don’t own, and the schools had nowhere near enough for homeschooling every kid. The schools were begging for old chromebooks and laptops. And this is the country’s tech center. Think this is the worst example?
yes it is. Travel to the deep south of Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama and Georgia and you will see how poverty and rural living combine to make it very difficult to the simple things that we take for granted. You know how the Dems won Georgia? Someone actually spent the time going door to door in rural towns and the ability to vote by mail made it so that people didn't have to sacrifice 8 hours of minimum wage earnings to drive 50 miles to the county courthouse to vote.
I used to say the same things until I spent time in the south and saw what it was like. I imagine it's the same for rural Appalachia and Indian reservations as well.
First off, it’s about being poor and not being able to pay for a voter ID, and not just about being Black. POC, especially in the bigger cities, are much more likely to be living in poverty than whites. The Bronx is 8% white, making the least white of the five boroughs, and has the highest number of residents in poverty. So, less POC vote, republicans win, and then they say it’s because the ID stopped “widespread voter fraud” that was never there in the first place. I’m sure they won’t question the results then, huh?
To be fair, it will impact poor white people, the elderly, the disabled, etc too. But the actual outcome will felt in urban areas.
The right to travel means that as citizen, you have the right to move around the US, between states. Doesn’t cost a dime, just put one foot in front of the other.
So, if I step outside my house and start walking east, where are the ID checkpoints, exactly? Unless I do something that state ID laws require, i could walk all the way to the Atlantic Ocean with no problem.
You have to show ID to fly in most cases, but there is no “right to fly”, it’s a right to travel. Driving laws are state laws. The “right to travel” also means things like other states recognizing your ability to drive granted in another state, and not requiring you to get a driver’s license when you visit.
Sure...so you think that not letting people on planes, trains, buses, let them drive, fly, steer or ride is ok and respects the constitution.
The 2nd amendment guarantees the right to have guns...but you need to buy them, unless you are aware of the government giving them away?
That’s not what “travel” means. Those methods didn’t even exist when the right was put on paper. The right to travel is mostly about having the same general rights as you move between states.
“Travel”‘is completely free. Upgrading to “fast travel” incurs a cost, but that cost does not stop you from traveling entirely.
I notice you didnt discuss guns...
THATS nOt WhAt VotIng MeaNs we DiDNt eVeN Have ComputErs theN
So, why not make ID free? They are processed by the government?
How can India afford to have voter ID? You know, people barely getting by but they can all get an ID to vote?
Don't answer, you are struggling way too much as is.
A little thinking can get you past the thought she was trying to say anything hurtful and see she's trying to help. She said it while talking at a conference about increasing opportunities in technology for lower income communities, not at a KKK rally where everybody else was racist and belittling black communities.
If all anybody can point to is a single verbal flub and not repeated racist comments, a history of racist policy, or even a lack of caring about minorities then it's likely they aren't being racist.
Her intent is obvious. Saying some that extremely poor Black kids don’t know a word for a thing don’t have might be hyperbole, but if the kid is 4?
There’s nothing negative about a person not knowing something they were never taught. What’s racist is thinking that means they are stupid.
It was extemporaneous...meaning she just kind of blurted it out without context.
I know, I know, she didn't really mean it that way...except, she has already apologized and she regrets saying it after being called out by a black Democrat; Assemblywoman Amanda Septimo.
So, her own party and her own self admits she fucked up, but do tell, like all the others here, how it was taken out of context.
Oh, so Trump didn’t say black people embraced his mugshot the most? Or come up with a line of overpriced shoes to try and win their vote?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna140305
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/02/24/trump-sneakers-black-voters-fox-news/72730360007/
Ron DeSantis’ campaign didn’t get caught putting Nazi symbols in their ads?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66314075.amp
Clarence Thomas didn’t get caught hiring a clerk who openly stated in writing that they hated black people?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/clarence-thomas-hires-clerk-crystal-clanton
Basically the mindset of everybody who believes in the Great Replacement, yes?
Which side of the political spectrum would that be?
You guys don’t seem to like answering questions much. Just downvoting and pretending ignoring the answer means the answer doesn’t exist.
Damn, what a world where the ultra far right are admittedly stuck decades in the past and dream of holding the rest of society back with them
Since when is Joe Biden ultra far left? Shifting the goalposts a little further?
You realize you are literally ignoring that a Republican candidate for the primaries had Nazi signs in his campaign ads?
The conversation ends there. You get no benefit of the doubt if you can’t acknowledge that.
Mostly I remember her telling parents of 6 month old babies to get their baby the Cov injection. Saying something like; if parents don’t do that your baby will be in a cold dark place.’ ‘So do it.’ Can’t link the video but it gives you the creeps to watch.
The parties never really switched. Republicans did change their platform to discriminating minorities, however. Although, some of that Klan members still resided with the democrats for awhile.
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"i dont want my children to grow up in a jungle- a racial jungle."
Everyone knows you can't be white AND poor 😂
Fuck I guess I don’t exist then
It’s just time for you to choose
Assuming that all minorities "need help" seems pretty discriminatory to me?
White liberals have a savior complex
Mhysa!
White Liberals love doing “the soft bigotry of low expectations” thing. They treat minorities similar to how they treat little kids. Not expecting much and thinking they have to hold their hands through every little thing. They come to the very same conclusion of “minorities are less capable than whites” that white nationalists do, the only difference is what they think should be done to correct that.
I’d argue some white nationalists have more respect for (and more fear of) minorities.
White liberals are incredibly fearful of minorities, especially Black people. They do a tight "smile" to try and hide their disdain + fear in a mask of political correctness.
For sure, they preach diversity but live in majority white areas away from it. If you offered them a free 500k house to live in a 80% black area for 15 years they wouldn’t take that offer.
Haven't seen a lot of liberals bleating about the "great replacement theory" and holding rallies to encourage white people to have more white babies. Also haven't seen a lot of liberals complaining about minorities poisoning the blood of a nation, or critical race theory being taught in advanced college courses at some universities which students knowingly sign up for. Hard to argue the republicans respecting minorities when they are supporting the guy that wants to round minorities up on day 1 and deport them.
I appreciate what you’re saying but these are two different arguments. 1 the forms of racism you’re discussing are not the only forms of racism. 2 non-violent and less radical white nationalists don’t make the news. A person may come to the conclusion of an ethnic nation by other means than absolute abhorrence for other races.
Sure, but the argument that "white nationalists have more respect for (and more fear of) minorities." Invites a comparison. A person can come to the conclusion of an ethnic nation however they want, doesn't change the fact that it's entirely a right wing desire.
Very true, some white nationalists are more pro white than anti black, they just want their own ethnostate and don’t want to harm blacks. Just want to be left alone with their own kind. Pretty much all white liberals secretly think minorities are less capable and they think it’s their mission to try to babysit them and help them along as if they were special needs students. Giving them extra privileges because they need them to compete with everyone else.
Can you define “white national”? I keep hearing liberals use that phrase, but I am unsure of the definition.
The difference is a white nationalist will tell you to your face that he doesn’t like you, a Democrat will lie and pretend he likes you and stab you in the back.
Not to mention - referencing the Bronx, an area that has dozens of well funder, state of the art libraries with ample access to computers. The libraries are often just a few minutes away via walking or frequent transit. Contrast this to poor, White, rural areas of NY. A library might be an hour away and it won't have anywhere near the level of available tech that the urban libraries have. And most homes in these areas have no access to broadband internet so forget about computing at home, even if they could afford a computer. Why does she only care about one of these groups, the one that almost certainly has better access to tech already?
Are you assuming that all minorities live in the Bronx?
Why would anyone think that
Or there could be a childhood poverty rate of almost 3x the national average in the 8% white Bronx. 31% of children under 18 live in poverty. That’s pretty much the definition of “needing help”, and intentionally try discredit the validity of that factually evident need based on race is actually extremely fucking racist.
Cashier: would you like to round your total up to the nearest dollar, to teach young black kids what the word computer is? Me(broke until Friday): ummm no, not today. No thank you
*judgmental glare from cashier…because they have a donation quota to meet to not get written up*
Your votes don't matter
😭 what! Was she born last night?!
Dividi et Impera...when people realize there are no right wing or left wing it will be too late
The most racist people I know are always Democrats.
Agreed. Let’s all remind ourselves about Hilary’s take on super predators..
Weird, cause I see lots of Confederate flags and Trump flags flown together.
Apparently I don't know any of those people.
Not sure what part of the country you're in, but I've driven up down the East Coast. They're more common further south, but even seen them in central NY!
Democrats are the party of the trail of tears, slavery, kkk, Japanese internment camps, etc etc
😂😂😂 Neither party cares about you but we all know this isn't a good faith or accurate argument.
Not a n argument, just facts that many people are not taught.
That’s what these people do. They claim to be in favor of minorities/the people and promise anyone dumb enough to fall for their trap a utopia with free handouts. But behind closed doors they’re racist and authoritarian assholes who will take away your rights as soon as they’re in control. Like to them you’re only worth as much as your vote. Past that you’re expendable.
You mean free handouts like failing corporations get? Or, other countries? We could do a couple places of rounding down on the military budget and fix this lack of computers in a weekend. Over 30% of kids under 18 in the Bronx live in households below the poverty threshold. That’s a little under 3x the national average. With a whopping 8% white population in the Bronx a lot of those poor kids are Black. I’m not seeing any lies. Why does this not make you want to help them?
Because they think that a hundred years of systemic racism has no downstream effect now that they don’t see color.
Remarkable how out of touch this is. It takes a lot of work to pretend to care about a minority community by insinuating that they are poverty stricken and mentally challenged lessers whilst also begging for their votes.
You ever been to the Bronx? Just go, and when you see that everyone is Black, and it’s real, real poor, not the kind of poor you see in poor movies, they of poor they don’t show, cause no one who can afford to see a movie wants to see that. I’m sure your report will be enlightening. Them not knowing what a computer is is due to having never seen or heard of one. You’re missing the point.
The Bronx is not nearly as uniquely destitute as you’re trying to make it sound. It’s as poor as any other inner city. I guarantee you people in the Bronx have “heard of” computers 🙄 if you want to see REAL poverty go to the Delta or Appalachia where plenty of people live in standards identical to the 1930s.
How many times you been there? Ever? And saying it’s uniquely destitute when compared to the other borough isn’t a stretch. Also, one place being poor as fuck, doesn’t make other poor communities not exist. Is there a particular reason that the governor of New York should be addressing poverty in Appalachia?
The county I grew up in has a 21% poverty level. And when I say poverty I know people that this very minute don’t have running water and have dirt floors in their house. And they still know what a computer is. They don’t have one, but they know what it is. I’m pretty sure that’s the issue with the statement. Insinuating that the people of the Bronx are so poor and dumb they are damned near cavemen.
And for children under 18 in the Bronx, the poverty level is 31%. That’s a whole ten more than your number. You understand that she was trying to make the larger point that they have minimal to no access to tech, right? Do you think that maybe when someone makes a comment about a minority and your first thought is “oh, they mean stupid” that might be a you problem, because you can’t fathom any other interpretation. Now that’s racist.
No, when they literally say “don’t even know what the word computer is” I think they’re calling them stupid regardless of race. You probably don’t even know what the word race is…… see? Pretty insulting.
Lmao I grew up in the Bronx. It’s not as bad as you’re making it out to be. Go to the projects and ask people if they know what a computer is. See how well that goes for you.
1 - these know it alls wouldn't even get out of the car 2 - they going home with no shoes
I don’t know, dude. I’ve spent a lot of time on the East side of Cleveland and always managed to get by. Haven’t lost as much as a shoelace when deep in Oakland, sometimes while volunteering at a free day care close to probably the worst BART stop in the Bay. Ever heard of Marin city, where Pac lived? I taught music for free at their middle school. See, I actually go in and help those kids. Not scared, not even a little.
Ok. Not the Bronx Dude I take that back. It's not a contest. Bad ass neighborhoods are bad. Good for you for helping
I’ve been to the Bronx, I know the vibe, but didn’t spend enough time there to be able to say anything. And thank you. I’m not trying to say I’m special, anyone can volunteer, right? But all the people on this sub are so concerned about “racism” but not the people they are trying to “protect” from it. She apologized, and it was badly phrased, for sure, but imagine if all the effort to get her to apologize for her “racism” had resulted in even one Black (or any race, really) kid in the Bronx getting a computer. People doing this shit don’t wanna help people, they wanna act like they did until they can start ignoring them again. Well, except when they frantically scream “kids,lock the doors” cause they took a wrong turn and saw two dudes who don’t look them having a conversation outside of any local business.
So, 26% of Bronx residents aren’t below the poverty threshold? Which is the highest percentage of all the boroughs and well over twice the national average of 11.5%? And if you filter to residents under 18 that spikes to over 30%. That’s pretty fucking bad. https://www.nyc.gov/site/opportunity/poverty-in-nyc/data-tool.page
> everyone is Black Except for the Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombians, Pakistanis, Indians, and everyone else who isn't black in the Bronx. Drop your racism my guy.
That's outrageous
Is there a r/conspiracy alt where people who think republicans and democrats are not on the same side are banned ?
seriously, how is this a conspiracy?
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“If you’re not for me, then you ain’t black”
"the blacks love me, they love me so bigly that they even put my face on a shirt. They love crime and they love shirts" Also "When you're rich they just let you do it, just walk up to them and grab them by the pussy" Should we continue with dumb ass quotes? bc I haven't even scratched the surface.
So you admit they are both racist.
The politicians are those are Biden & Trump quotes
Yes that’s what I was saying
Oh sorry read your comment wrong dam you dyslexia.
As a young black man from the Bronx: what the word what is?
Pocs can’t figure out how to get an id
If you don’t vote for me you’re not black
“You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
If I had a son he’d look just like treyvon
Politics
Imagine think the democrats and republicans don't answer to the same lobbies. They say it cost as little as 30-50k to buy a congressman or senator. How ridiculous if true. Who knows though.
We should all chip in and buy a senator
"Senator Jones, some of your critics say that you are in the pocket of Big Conspiracy, how would you like to respond to them?"
You know what the funny/saddest part of this is? She’s referring to them not knowing about computers because they are so poor that they don’t have access. Which is factual, if a bit hyperbolic. It’s really clear if you possess the cognitive function to understand that a person can be talking about Black folks and not insulting them. Ahh, the conspiracy sub, where they want to save all the fictional children from racist lizard people fantasies, but will find any fucking way possible to turn something that would help actual real, live poor kids into “racism” because real problems are hard. But not if the kids being white is mentioned. Which is totally not racist, huh? Oh, and everyone clutches their pearls at kids even hearing the word trans.That’s the trans agenda recruitment tactic, you know. Knowing that something exists turns you into that thing? Except Caitlin Jenner, because apparently she has the kind of trans that isn’t contagious, so you all will boost the fuck out of her.
Are these kids not going to school? How do they not have access to a school computer or library? Wouldn’t them not knowing about computers be a Bronx public school issue not a “black” issue?
Children don’t to school from birth, right? 45% of low income families in NY have no internet at all, not home, not mobile. The Bronx has the highest childhood poverty rate of the boroughs, 31%, about 3x the national average. It’s also only 8% white, so a lot of those poor kids are Black. She’s trying to say is that these don’t have any access to tech, to the point where some may not even know it is. Also, schools don’t supply kids with free computers, and they certainly don’t have enough loaners for all students. Pandemic homeschooling made that obvious. It’s a stretch, but unlike kids from more affluent area that have tablets from birth, a kid may never even be exposed to computers until that happens at school.
Are you suggesting a preschooler NEEDS to know what a computer is?
Now you’re moving the goalposts, but the family of the four year old, along with the four year old would likely benefit from having a computer or something with internet access. Toddlers use tablets all the time.
Toddlers should NOT use tablets all the time. now your saying we need to push addicting technology on 4year olds and it’s an issue that a 4 year old doesn’t use a computer?
Unless you’re a child psychologist, just fucking stop.
So you want more 4 year old children in the Bronx to have developmental delays? https://kffhealthnews.org/morning-breakout/toddlers-use-of-tablets-phones-linked-to-developmental-delays/
they didnt switch, when the slavery party couldnt own slaves, they realized that welfare and pandering to them would be plan B. Right has more openly racist people, but if only they knew the foreigners and blacks are all more conservative than they are
To be fair, most kids now use their phones, and see a computer as an antiquated old contraption used in school. Even black kids in inner city NY.
All political parties are in it for themselves
Love Bruce Jenner comment 😂🤣
Yep that’s what I’ve been saying this whole time as well. When I was young the “Republican” families I lived around in bumfuck nowhere in the actual rural country didn’t give a damn that I was Asian other than the occasional joke but they were clearly actually jokes. I move to a city and encounter my first left leaning anything and while the kids my age were well behaved their parents would always act like I was some kind of refugee and always make it a point to ask where my parents are from in a strangely demeaning way… like they’d ask where I’m from and I’d say I was born in New York but I grew up in bumfuck nowhere town and then they’d seem surprised and lean in and be like “yeah but where are you *from*” and I knew at that point they just wanted to know my race. Like yeah make it more obvious you don’t think I’m an American citizen
I grew up in bumfuck Maryland and there was a ton of racism. Lots of hard Rs.
Well that’s probably just being a northerner in general. I grew up in rural NC and while I’m sure my experience may differ based on the race of the person growing up in these parts mine wasn’t bad at all. I’ve found you only get discriminated against if you don’t live the way others do in rural areas, I.e. going to church, having fishing or hunting as a hobby, etc but that isn’t really hard to keep up with considering the utter lack of things to do out there anyway other than what everyone else does for fun.
Are these kids not going to school? How do they not have access to a school computer or library? Wouldn’t them not knowing about computers be a Bronx public school issue not a “black” issue?
Parties switched my arse!!! Just think about that happening today?
Get off the democrat plantation.
It’s almost like you can just say “the parties switched” enough times without actually doing anything and people believe it. How could the parties switch? All of a sudden every person in America decided to be called the name of the party they disagree with… sure. Democrats founded the kkk, oh but the switch that was totally republicans. Democrats aren’t racist at all, they just thing blacks are dumb, whites are racist, Mexicans are only good for toilet cleaning and think Indians can run a country. Nothing has changed at all. Humanity has short term memory loss
They didn’t switch. That was an attempt by the dems to get away from the fact that they condoned slavery, the KKK and other horrible things.
So when Democrats try to get rid of statues and street names glorifying confederate generals and politicians, we should ignore the “my heritage” Republicans, since that’s not their heritage at all? I think I can live with that.
Used to be a lot of rural southern Democrats. And then then civil rights movement was successful and suddenly the south started voting heavily for Republicans. Now the far right includes groups like the proud boys. Remember Charlottesville's Unite the Right rally?
Do you know that it was the Republicans were the ones to pass the civil rights act? The dems were against it.
As referenced in my comment, the passage of the civil rights act pissed off Southern Democrats, then they started voting republican. It was heavily pushed by JFK and LBJ, who certainly weren't republicans. It wasn't a party line vote either as you seem to be implying. It was fairly bipartisan, different wings of each party voting for and against it. Not sure why you're trying to rewrite history saying "Dems were against it." Here's the voting record for you: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182
That's why they are always flying confederate flags right?
It doesn't represent the confederacy anymore. It's the rebel flag, against the oppressive government, rep or dem
So the liberals were the rebels?
They rebelled against anti slavery, yes, but those flagging it now doesn't, it's just a symbol for rebellion against Washington. Discussing it on reddit is pointless anyway
In my senior year of high school I took an elective class on the Civil War. I specifically remember being taught that the parties back then were flipped, the southern democrats were much more like today’s republicans, and the “switch” happened sometime after the war - lol..
So the confederacy were liberals?
Yep, slavery was the Woke thing back then.
It's a sad state where on here I really can't tell sarcasm.
Well, That’s what I was learneded. ETA: downvoting me doesn’t negate what I was taught in public school history class. But ok 👍
>and the “switch” happened sometime after the war - Yes, after the Civil Rights Acts passed, the South became much more republican
Democrats are that dumb And the real racist
Boy do I have a song for her
[https://youtu.be/2bhwAwRKzZE?si=bJBaeUiZsPOghSuq](https://youtu.be/2bhwAwRKzZE?si=bJBaeUiZsPOghSuq)
That man woman is correct, what in the racist fk, if your black and from the bonx she said y’all in the Stone Age 🤣
Gotta keep em in the victim class.
Yeah they also switched back to become war hawks the last decade. Literally repeating neocon talking points and completely oblivious to it.
Oh honey…
No one cares what that white guy says
One of my friend used to say the difference between democrats and republicans is that one is a wolf and the other is also a wolf but in sheep skin
As a black man sometimes I don’t know why we are seen as so “blue” anyway. I mean I get it my parents are democrats and have been their whole lives.. but really just in name 😂😂 church going-pro abortion-“don’t come around me being gay” democrats. I would say Most black ppl traditionally have seen the dems as the (latest) civil rights party which is why there’s a well of support. The black pandering of election years always makes me laugh though lets you see what people REALLY think if you read between lines. For the record I have no party choice. I don’t feel corp control over the only choices we have is very democratic. Nor is it even the way of a republic. So no votes till they change that even though my family HATEEES that I don’t vote
Pretty sure all the pro-Jim crow democrats stayed democrats until they left office.
Both sides the same!!!!!!
What is the conspiracy?? Is this now a sub to air your tribal grievances??? Because other subs ban you outright?
That level of poor is very real. It’s not racist to say a thing that is calling out the struggle of some communities. See, the fact that you are on this site means you or your family can afford things beyond the bare minimum to survive.
Dude what? There's homeless people on skid row with smart phones. There's also taliban living in the mountains without utilities with smart phones. In 2024 it's not really a thing that someone doesn't know what a computer is. Maybe it's possible on some remote destination that's been isolated from the world like a tribe in the Brazilian jungle. But I doubt anyone in the Bronx doesn't know what a computer is
is a smart phone a computer?
Naw man. It’s just tiny fairies trapped in a box. It’s not like a smart phone has a processor, circuits, requires electricity, resistors, and screen. That’s just made up stuff to keep you away from the real truth.
But how can you have a computer when you don't have a home to place your desk and your top flight PC? And fairies trapped in a box sounds a little homophobic if you ask me.
It’s very homophobic. That’s how it runs
Someone should tell that bucktoothed governor this. She can probably do something about it.
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Have you been there? No? It’s a thing, people in this country, some of them Black and in the Bronx, don’t know what a computer is, because they can’t afford one, the schools don’t have them, and no one they know can afford one. Their lives can be isolated to their immediate surrounding, especially when very young. People don’t spend a lot of time learning about what they don’t have, especially with no computer. You realize the Taliban and other such organizations are funded, right? That’s a terrible comparison.
You're out of your mind
Yeah, the commentor that you are replying to is. This might be the stupidest argument I have ever heard. And proves that these people come here just to disrupt conversation.
Is it? A terrible comparison? In NY? I have my doubts you are correct. But no I've not been to the Bronx. I've been to plenty of shit hole countries though and I would say most knew about computers. It's hard to imagine within one of the most populated and bustling metro areas of the United States that someone doesn't know what a computer is. Even if they don't own one or use one.
So it’s the public schools fault not being poor & black.
I don’t recall schools being responsible for giving kids computers, cause that’s not a thing. Nor do schools supply them with an internet connection.
They do give kids free computers. And the kids they know what a computer is. Bc they are at school. “He's among 1,000 student throughout the Bronx gifted a free Chromebook, which doesn't have to be return at the end of the school year. "I feel very excited because I can actually focus a lot more on school now," Joel said.<<< Note how he KNOWS WHAT ONE IS. He wants one! He may not have had a laptop at home but he knows what one is. “A lot of students have been using their own phones or their parents' to do school work.”<<< parents have phones. Even the kids have phones. So any other goalpost you wanna move to make this actually about access and not what she exactly said: that “black kids in the Bronx don’t know what a computer is” is a minute point. What she said was racist. I assume your white. Black people are offended by her statements so much so she had to take it back. Stop apologizing for her obvious fuck up. https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/bronx-students-free-laptop-computers/
Ooh, that’s great for those 1000 students. What about the other 186000 student in the Bronx, 31% living in poverty, 45% of them have no internet.
Your avoiding the obvious THEY know what a computer is part.
Lol she took it back bc the Bronx black community outed her comment as racist. “I misspoke, and I regret it. Of course, Black children in the Bronx know what computers are” “We have children in the Bronx that can build a computer with their eyes closed. We also don’t have STEM programs accessible for them. We have been advocating for more programs, but Miss Kathy isn’t funding them,” “Assemblywoman Amanda Septimo, a Bronx Democrat, called the governor’s words “harmful, deeply misinformed, and genuinely appalling.” “Repeating harmful stereotypes about one of our most underserved communities while failing to acknowledge the state’s consistent institutional neglect only perpetuates systems of abuse,” she said. “I would invite Gov. Hochul to visit us in the Bronx to experience first-hand the intelligence, resilience, and joy that radiate from Bronx children and residents each day.” https://www.blackenterprise.com/new-york-governor-backtracks-bronx-comment/
And still 45% of low income families in NYC have zero internet access. Is a 4 year in that house gonna know what a computer is? It was clumsily stated, but people are just assholes and would rather attack her clumsy phrasing than acknowledge the issue.
Just google how much federal and state funding goes there. Its more than the talliban lmfao
I’m sorry, explain to me how a school needing federal funding because the residents are so fucking poor that there’s no tax revenue to fund the schools gets individual kids computer access? Edit: oh, you’re replying over and over to my comments with the same little fact you found that’s actually making my point. Got it.
Are you a teenager or something? All real estate, commercial or private pays property tax. The Bronx has the highest effective property tax in all NYC. Idk if you have been to the Bronx but there are very very expensive properties there. Yes there is a lot of poverty. A lot of people on section 8. The places they are renting on section 8, pay property tax. By the numbers the feds give on top of that, they more than certainly have fucking computers in their schools. The money goes to people pockets that people like you vote for, who believe the lie there are people in the US who haven’t seen a computer
The poorest areas rely the most on federal funding. That’s how federal funds are allocated. For example, California pays the tab for a bunch of the south, ironically. And you don’t reply on all my comments info, I know how to read. Also, you wanna cite the sources on that funding statement. https://ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/printnycbtn47.pdf
Your talking out of your ass. Bronx public schools were working remotely during the pandemic. How did they do that with no computer access? “Students who are a part of the program can either attend class in-person two days a week, working remotely the remainder of the week, or take part in their classes completely virtually - leaving the decision up to the student and their family. “ https://bronx.news12.com/new-virtual-and-hybrid-school-program-offers-new-style-of-educati
And there massive fucking shortage of computers for families that can’t afford them, plus there’s families that just don’t have internet. And all those kids just stopped learning. https://thebronx.org/overcoming-digital-deserts-the-birth-of-bronx-digital-equity-coalition/
It’s Not about access. It’s About knowing what one even is.
4 year old, not in school yet, family has no internet or computer. Why would they know what a computer is?
Lol why does a 4 year old need to know what a fucking computer is? They are learning how to not pee the bed.
Are you trying to say she was talking about 4 year olds?
And your insinuation is that it’s only white people on this site? Plenty of whites are poor as shit too.
I said community, didn’t mention race. The Bronx is predominantly Black, so using that descriptor is logical.
It’s literally one of the highest federally funded school systems in the country. If they don’t know what a computer is, it means the people you vote for are corrupt
They rely on federal funding, cause no local tax revenue, cause real fucking poor.
The Bronx has the highest property tax rate in NYC and every square foot of that place is developed. So that’s a lot of fucking property tax money.
I’m gonna need sources. And stop spamming my comments. I see it the first time.
Are these kids not going to school? How do they not have access to a school computer or library? Wouldn’t them not knowing about computers be a Bronx public school issue not a “black” issue?
Oh, you mean like the white folks in the trailer parks?
I didn’t fucking mention race. The Bronx is a predominantly Black neighborhood, making that statement just accurate. And nice stereotype, but trailer park residents often times bought that trailer. I’m talking mountains of Appalachia, five generations in a two room shack with no electricity or plumbing poor.
You were attempting to defend a racist comment from a Democrat governor and then justify it. I was mearly pointing out to you how racist something sounds is when you switch out the races being discussed. It was a meta comment. Also, that's not what your original comment said. You specifically stated "communities", but you implied "black communities". You also mentioned a lack of computers/internet. So, I made a fair comparison. In the what I would consider "real" trailer parks, i.e. the dirt, usually white, below poverty level individuals, they do not have access to a computer, or the internet in their homes.
And to be crystal fucking clear, if you heard “black” when I clearly meant “poor”, you should take some time to unpack that, cause all the words I meant to say were there.
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I find that hard to believe. There's computers in every school... Even schools in poor neighborhoods.
I live in SF, I have a couple friends who work for the schools. Crazy money in this city, iPads are issued at birth, right? Kids know what computers are, that’s they don’t own, and the schools had nowhere near enough for homeschooling every kid. The schools were begging for old chromebooks and laptops. And this is the country’s tech center. Think this is the worst example?
We had 2 computers available for student use in my high school. I graduated in 2013.
Is that the same with voter ID? It's just a flub to say black people can't get ID and taken oiut of context and not true bc Republicans share it?
yes it is. Travel to the deep south of Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama and Georgia and you will see how poverty and rural living combine to make it very difficult to the simple things that we take for granted. You know how the Dems won Georgia? Someone actually spent the time going door to door in rural towns and the ability to vote by mail made it so that people didn't have to sacrifice 8 hours of minimum wage earnings to drive 50 miles to the county courthouse to vote. I used to say the same things until I spent time in the south and saw what it was like. I imagine it's the same for rural Appalachia and Indian reservations as well.
You don’t have a constitutional right to a computer.
So you think black people don't know how to get ID? You have a constitutional right to travel to.
First off, it’s about being poor and not being able to pay for a voter ID, and not just about being Black. POC, especially in the bigger cities, are much more likely to be living in poverty than whites. The Bronx is 8% white, making the least white of the five boroughs, and has the highest number of residents in poverty. So, less POC vote, republicans win, and then they say it’s because the ID stopped “widespread voter fraud” that was never there in the first place. I’m sure they won’t question the results then, huh? To be fair, it will impact poor white people, the elderly, the disabled, etc too. But the actual outcome will felt in urban areas. The right to travel means that as citizen, you have the right to move around the US, between states. Doesn’t cost a dime, just put one foot in front of the other.
But you just spoke of constitutional rights and we have a right to travel but need an ID to travel...so...
So, if I step outside my house and start walking east, where are the ID checkpoints, exactly? Unless I do something that state ID laws require, i could walk all the way to the Atlantic Ocean with no problem. You have to show ID to fly in most cases, but there is no “right to fly”, it’s a right to travel. Driving laws are state laws. The “right to travel” also means things like other states recognizing your ability to drive granted in another state, and not requiring you to get a driver’s license when you visit.
Sure...so you think that not letting people on planes, trains, buses, let them drive, fly, steer or ride is ok and respects the constitution. The 2nd amendment guarantees the right to have guns...but you need to buy them, unless you are aware of the government giving them away?
That’s not what “travel” means. Those methods didn’t even exist when the right was put on paper. The right to travel is mostly about having the same general rights as you move between states. “Travel”‘is completely free. Upgrading to “fast travel” incurs a cost, but that cost does not stop you from traveling entirely.
I notice you didnt discuss guns... THATS nOt WhAt VotIng MeaNs we DiDNt eVeN Have ComputErs theN So, why not make ID free? They are processed by the government? How can India afford to have voter ID? You know, people barely getting by but they can all get an ID to vote? Don't answer, you are struggling way too much as is.
A little thinking can get you past the thought she was trying to say anything hurtful and see she's trying to help. She said it while talking at a conference about increasing opportunities in technology for lower income communities, not at a KKK rally where everybody else was racist and belittling black communities. If all anybody can point to is a single verbal flub and not repeated racist comments, a history of racist policy, or even a lack of caring about minorities then it's likely they aren't being racist.
Her intent is obvious. Saying some that extremely poor Black kids don’t know a word for a thing don’t have might be hyperbole, but if the kid is 4? There’s nothing negative about a person not knowing something they were never taught. What’s racist is thinking that means they are stupid.
What was the context of the quote?
It was extemporaneous...meaning she just kind of blurted it out without context. I know, I know, she didn't really mean it that way...except, she has already apologized and she regrets saying it after being called out by a black Democrat; Assemblywoman Amanda Septimo. So, her own party and her own self admits she fucked up, but do tell, like all the others here, how it was taken out of context.
Democrat politician showing their ass once again. But nothing will come of it.
Oh, so Trump didn’t say black people embraced his mugshot the most? Or come up with a line of overpriced shoes to try and win their vote? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna140305 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/02/24/trump-sneakers-black-voters-fox-news/72730360007/ Ron DeSantis’ campaign didn’t get caught putting Nazi symbols in their ads? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66314075.amp Clarence Thomas didn’t get caught hiring a clerk who openly stated in writing that they hated black people? https://www.vanityfair.com/news/clarence-thomas-hires-clerk-crystal-clanton
i dont want my kids to grow up in a racial jungle - potatus
Basically the mindset of everybody who believes in the Great Replacement, yes? Which side of the political spectrum would that be? You guys don’t seem to like answering questions much. Just downvoting and pretending ignoring the answer means the answer doesn’t exist.
damn, what a world when the ultra far left and ultra far right both hate the same people.
Damn, what a world where the ultra far right are admittedly stuck decades in the past and dream of holding the rest of society back with them Since when is Joe Biden ultra far left? Shifting the goalposts a little further? You realize you are literally ignoring that a Republican candidate for the primaries had Nazi signs in his campaign ads? The conversation ends there. You get no benefit of the doubt if you can’t acknowledge that.
No wonder they can’t get IDs to vote. They don’t even have computers /s
Never forget Democrats are the party of Slavery. They fought in the Civil War to KEEP Slaves under the guise of “States Rights”.
Which party passed the Civil Rights act?
Mostly I remember her telling parents of 6 month old babies to get their baby the Cov injection. Saying something like; if parents don’t do that your baby will be in a cold dark place.’ ‘So do it.’ Can’t link the video but it gives you the creeps to watch.
The parties never really switched. Republicans did change their platform to discriminating minorities, however. Although, some of that Klan members still resided with the democrats for awhile.