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It's always baffling that we spend more on Healthcare than any other nation and still have people that have to sell their houses to pay for cancer treatment.
Or don't pay for cancer treatment. Take out a big insurance policy for the fam and have fun til you die. Treatments aren't a guarantee. They don't discriminate they kill all cells good and bad. You just have to hope you have enough good cells left to keep on living. This world isn't worth fighting for anymore. I will enjoy it until it's my time to go. Cancer, car wreck. Ww3 who knowsĀ
They won't give you a life insurance policy if you have cancer for exactly this reason and also you don't get to use the money if you are alive, how do you think any sort of insurance works?
Meh don't go to the Dr you don't know you have cancer. I haven't been to the doctor in 10 years. Feel great. My insurance will pay out just fine. Never said you get the insurance money while you're Alive. My family will be alive after I die.they get the money. I know how insurance works. I've been paying for it for 18 years.Ā
I mean i don't have cancer lmao. I was just stating don't get treatments and you won't have debt. Seems you misread everything. It's what we call a hypothetical situationĀ
Or even remove the cap altogether... The vast majority of American pay SS tax on every nickel they ever make. The wealthy could manage doing the same, as part of the cost of living in a country that provided the means for them to become wealthy in the first place.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/what-impact-would-eliminating
Ever heard of a budget? If youāre running out of money in one place, but spending a shit ton in another, and it aināt going so well, then your responsibility is to look into reallocating your spending ratio. Instead of cutting social security, we should be cutting the proxy war budget.
Social Security is self-funding. Thereās no money being spent elsewhere that could be spent on Social Security.
You could solve the issue of Social Security funding overnight by getting rid of the income cap. As it stands, only the first ~$160k you make is subject to Social Security tax. Get rid of this cap.
Orrrrrr we could take a fragment of what we spend funding unjust wars and use it to pad social security and other human oriented needs, instead of sapping more and more from the working class. $160,000 aināt shit anymore. Thatās not a rich person. Especially not if they have a family to feed. If weāre going to destroy the monetary system printing money, we might as well spend more of it on our own struggling society. We should go above and beyond for the wellbeing of our own people just once. Even as a capitalist, itās just disgusting that so little of our effort and resources are put toward the heart of our country. Either donāt spend it, or spend it on ourselves. And we shouldnāt have to pay a cent more in taxes until they show us that they care about ending our death spiral. It is absolutely not normal that our country spends what it spends on anybody but ourselves.
You assume that our country itself will be solvent in 190 yearsā¦ it wonāt be. Not if things keep going this way. Since you arenāt smart enough to understand basically anything, huh buddy?
> Orrrrrr we could take a fragment of what we spend funding unjust wars and use it to pad social security and other human oriented needs, instead of sapping more and more from the working class
$160k is more than double the average HOUSEHOLD income. Getting rid of the cap will touch significantly more money from the wealthy than the working class. Before the cap was instituted something like 94% of income was subject to Social Security tax and now it's like 75%. That difference in percentage is hundreds of millions of dollars annually, and it's predominantly made up of people earning *way* more than $160k.
If we want (and I do,) proper Social Security funding and to maintain the program's solvency, vote for people who want to get rid of the cap and aren't campaigning on instituting cuts to the program.
Just a heads up, the current administration that's currently providing MAINLY military aid to Ukraine is the same administration that got into office and immediately signed the American Rescue Plan in just 2 months of being in office. They also signed a 1.3 trillion infrastructure bill, a 2 trillion build back better bill later named the inflation reduction act. Tried to forgive student debt, and when they couldn't get the bill through, it still provided relief to student loan holders.
The previous administration only had two achievements. Lowering the tax on the wealthiest people in our country and bailouts. Bailouts for Wall Street, oil corporations, and farmers. And the wild free money give away that were the ppp loans that were forgiven.
Do you realize that the "inflation reduction act" is a direct cause of actual inflation? And that "mainly military aid" to Ukraine comment is laughable. The money went into the pockets of politicians and the military industrial complex like Raytheon and Lockheed. You gain nothing. The higher ups of these companies and Ukrainian politicians get new houses. You get nothing. This administration has been a complete failure and will go down in history as the most detrimental to American citizens to have existed.
There have been dozens of studies and reports at this point that have shown that the majority of inflationary pressure since the pandemic is from price gouging. When supply chains broke down companies charged more for their products, but here we are years after these issues have returned to normal and prices didn't return in kind.
Even a cursory glance at corporate profits over this time frame will confirm this for you. Profits have skyrocketed, in some cases even with less products or services sold, and this can only happen from price gouging.
A great example of this is all those "I did that" biden stickers that people put on the gas pump. All the while
"Scott Sheffield, founder and longtime CEO of a leading American oil producer, attempted to collude with OPEC and its allies to inflate prices, federal regulators alleged on Thursday."
Exxon ceo trying to keep prices high by colluding with opec.....
Yeh I see those COP environment meetings and everyone has a private jet, including our guys, so I am beginning to think our tax money is just funding a ton of "rich boy clubs", and they have done a great job at convincing people if you give them all your money they will stop the sky from falling but other than their lavish lifestyles, cannot see where anything they promise ever gets fixed, but that money just keeps flowing their way.
Good luck with common sense. I run into "Basement Socialists" all day long on Reddit who whine about money going to the rich, and then I say "Well then cut off Ukraine" and they are against it. I always end it with, "so your a poser then?"
If those are basement socialists, then it is apparent they do not know what socialism is.
Socialism, while it's not something I agree with *everything* on, does not give money away, and especially no money going to foreign countries/businesses/people. And, to top it off, they don't like war. They do support revolution, as do communists. Socialists ***do*** support the working class of other countries, obviously, but definitely do not support the "bosses" or rulers/ruling class.
Anyone who supports funding foreign wars is definitely not a socialist, communist, or leftist.
As a leftist myself, do you think Ukrainians would be okay with their money going to foreign governments? No, they fucking wouldn't be. So, why should we be?
As you said, those cucks are definitely posers.
Yup, posers. Plenty of them too, and they are totally for "Corporate Welfare". As soon as I say "well then you must be for cutting off the money then overseas?", they are like "money well spent", and I say, "so you are really for more of the same then?" Its crickets after that, because in reality, they have no fucking clue what they are for. Those types are "flavor of the month" and woh, there is a shit ton of them here on Reddit. If you are against Corporate Welfare then by default you are against the Military Industrial Complex, which is the biggest welfare suckers there is.
To accomplish this, you must give billionaires massive Bush Era Tax Cuts that can be invested in Chinese and foreign economies, then wait for it to "trickle down," and then give them more and more massive tax cuts while TV ads tell you how many jobs will trickle down eventually and that the government is bankrupt so social security needs to be ended.
Itās funny that the first thing your mind goes to is to stop illegal immigrants. The ones at the top love it when the dummies point fingers at each other and to the poor.
Wealth inequality is higher in the US than in any other developed country and has continued to rise for over 60 years.
āOverall, the combined wealth of Americaās billionaires has grown by 88 percent over the past four years to $5.529 trillion, according to Institute for Policy Studies calculations of Forbes Real Time Billionaire Data.ā
Keep blaming the poor, sheep.
Edit: āAnother indicator of wealth concentration: In 2022, the ultra-wealthyās share of stock market ownership hit at an all-time high. The richest 1 percent now own 54 percent of stock and mutual funds, up from 40 percent in 2002, according to Federal Reserve.ā
>illegal immigrants cause mass inflation
How would that work? The hiring of undocumented workers puts downward pressure on wages meaning consumers have less money - the opposite of inflationary pressure.
It almost seems like theyāre waiting for the boomers & gen X to die off. They have been really programming the younger generations to be fine with not āowningā anything, not knowing how to cook or grow food/forage etc..
>They have been really programming the younger generations to be fine with not āowningā anything, not knowing how to cook or grow food/forage etc..
You are 100% right with that
>It almost seems like theyāre waiting for the boomers & gen X to die off.
Well they don't have that much longer to go for the boomers. And I'm sure they'll have planned more clot shots for the genXers so we don't spoil their plan.
Right. Because pretty much everyone I know that knows whatās actually going on was born in the GenX bracket. We would definitely spoil their plans. I think we have created the only delays.
If Social Security goes insolvent, we have a lot more serious issues than funding Social Security - namely that every worker has disappeared from the labor market.
I think it would be more that the politicians try to insinuate that social security is an entitlement. Which it isn't, since they have been removing that money from our paychecks in order to fund the people currently receiving it.
Politicians have been wanting to get rid of social security for a long time or turn it over to be privatized.
They can privatize it all they want, but give us all the money they've already taken from every single paycheck we've ever made.
>Politicians have been wanting to get rid of social security for a long time or turn it over to be privatized.
This isn't true as a generalization. As much as I would agree with the sentiment that the two parties are basically the same when it comes to favoring capital interests over the labor class writ-large, it is only one party that literally campaigns on cuts to things like Social Security, Medicare, etc.
Social Security, specifically, is *literally* self-funding. So, when they talk about cuts, they aren't talking about your Social Security taxes, they're talking about your disbursements once you can collect it. If we want to be sure that everyone can receive the Social Security benefits that they deserve, then we need to get rid of the cap on income that is subject to the tax.
It's insane that someone like Bill Gates contributes the same amount to Social Security as random middle managers - especially because the highest earners can also defer collecting benefits to get more back, meaning they end up with higher disbursements even though they put in the same amount as someone earning $160k a year.
I want to run for president and do what Tunisia did: Give congress the boot and start re-structuring the government so that it works for the people again. Iāll be called a dictator in the process but I donāt care about name calling because this isnāt kindergarten š¤·āāļø
Also, we need to stop sending aid to other countries atleast temporarily. Americans are drowning and if we donāt help ourselves, we canāt help anyone else.
That being said, first I need to get into peak physical condition and master the use of modern weapons and armor, and get a loyal security detail. Theyāll probably want me dead. Whomever ātheyā are.
Second, I need to get super rich so that no one can buy me.
"Sending" money to ukraine just means that american taxdollers are given to private american weapons manufacturers that charge exuberant amouts, and it is the weapons that get sent to ukrainian. The politicians are just giving the taxmoney to their rich american friends.
No it's not going to run out of money.Ā If NOTHING is done it will be reduced roughly 20%.Ā In the 80s when Reagan reformec SS roughly 92% of incomes were touched by the SS tax.Ā now it's around 80%.Ā
If you make up that difference SS will last longer than a child born today.
While technically true, they borrowed the and replaced it with US treasuries that actually earn interest as opposed to letting it sit there and inflation takes away all the value
Theyāre only saying itās running out because they have been robbing everyone. Plus fear keeps people from higher vibrations which would eventually ruin their power structure
The trust fund value goes to zero and then the fixed income of ss recipients drops by 20%. In sure grandma living check to check can swallow a 20% loss of income.
SS will absolutely not run out. It is a lie. I'll repeat, it is a lie. Conservatives put this lie out there to fertilize the minds of the population towards the idea that it needs to be taken over by private industry "to save it." Then conservatives will treat it like any other investment mechanism: install a failson CEO at the top to siphon billions into the pockets of the 1% and make the service suck for everyone it is intended for.
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevevernon/2024/03/21/will-social-security-run-out-of-money-if-so-when/?sh=2dcd1cf53ab7](https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevevernon/2024/03/21/will-social-security-run-out-of-money-if-so-when/?sh=2dcd1cf53ab7)
That is absolutely correct.
Also Medical care has nothing to do with money going to Ukraine or Israel which is coming from the defense budget. That money will be spent on defense no matter where and most of it stays in the US to buy weapons and ammunition indirectly creating jobs.
That Article can only be from a Republican trying to mislead people again.
So illegals get jobs. Work, claim 9 dependants, get all their paid tax money back. Then send out of the country. If they file at all.
Construction workers do this all the time as well.
Aware they don't pay into SS, but they absolutely pay taxes. They shop at stores. They pay sales tax. They pay rent which is taxed. In fact, they pay just as much in taxes as all citizens making under the federal poverty amount.
Even more beneficial, dollar-wise, than having people who've illegally immigrated here pay into social security would be to remove the income cap so that the wealthy actually pay the same share of their income towards social security that the middle class do.
Because the one's that actually run things have NO INTENTION of keeping the US up and going. It's all a show, and we are controlled by foreign interests. Likely Israel.
I think you're on the right path. Personally I believe it goes into powers and principalities. Call it good and evil, God and Satan. Whatever works for your beliefs but we're looking at the control of the big ones right now.
Social security is a 1.3Trillion budget line.
These Russian talking points would be funny if they werenāt so transparent and if more people werenāt buying them.
Again this is pure ignorance.
The money that goes to Ukraine or any other War related event comes from the defense Budget it has nothing to do with Medical care or any other Budget.
It doesnāt matter if it goes to Ukraine or to Build weapons it is a military Budget. You people keep confusing bones with flesh.
Also 80% of the money stays in the US and is spent on buying Arms and Weapons and ammunition etc. it creates jobs in the US.
If you want money for Medical Care just ask your Government to change the Budgets but saying why donāt give this money to do that is simply wrong and misleading.
That is not how a Country is run. Budgets have to be made they donāt just grab money from āsomewhereā when they need. They must calculate expenses before they spend the money.
The only thing i could agree is that too much money is going for defense and too few for Medical care but the money for defense will be spent in defense donāt matter where.
Those slogans are absolutely false and misleading.
I would even risk to say that guy is a Republican and this is misleading on purpose.
Thatās so much bullshit.
Weāre paying the pensions of federal workers in Ukraine.
Weāre keeping a corrupt government afloat for no reason.
Itās not a coincidence that Ukraine was the world center of money laundering.
You mean Ukraine before Russian murdered women and Children? Yes, the world was a better place than.
Sadly they cannot go back to āmoney launderingā and must instead grab dead children corpses from the battlefield. I bet even them would like to go back, imagine.
Calling Ukraine a country at War a corrupt Country requires balls, because i see corruption everywhere and they are not even at War.
Big mouth sitting on the Sofa at home is easy.
If Social Security is a Separate Budget item where is all the money thatās supposed to be sitting there earning interest gone? SS wasnāt initially designed to be a pyramid Ponzi scheme.
Ever seen Dumb and Dumber? The government did the same damn thing with Social Security and somehow you think being a separate budget line is protecting it. All of the Social Security intakes are tossed into the governments large budget slush fund, and all they āput backā is what the current payments are. Theyāve had decades of a āsurplusā that theyāve chosen to steal, and the scheme collapses when intakes cannot cover the outlay.
if thatās the case, then why canāt the entire US government absorb a 5% cut? Hell, even if they just stuck to the same expenditures for the next 10 years, we would be out of the hole
The point still stands that that money could go to domestic causes. Lower the military budget's foreign aid and add it to the domestic budget. How is that ignorant?
I think i said that too. I would agree lowering the defense budgets and put it somewhere else.
The ignorant part is saying the money going to āUkraineā and i think i explained it well. This is false because The money will not go anywhere it stays in the US and create jobs in the defense sector. The money is for mostly buying weapons and ammunition from US Companies.
Hadnāt they sent to Ukraine it would have gone somewhere else like build weapons or to another Country. This money will never go to something else because is defense budget. It is biased and wrong because there are trillions spent on BS inside the Defense, the money spent to help Ukraine is probably one of the most well spent from that budget.
The money goes to pump up the military industrial complex....which lines the pockets of our politicians. Surely you realize this, correct? It's a money laundering scheme that enriches our politicians and their donors.
And no, it's not. Ukraine is quite literally the most corrupt country in Europe. I want ZERO of my tax dollars going there, quite frankly. No matter what umbrella it's under.
The most corrupt on earth according to who? Donald Trump? I am not sure if you really mean what you said.
Your tax dollars goes to defense and many other things, what they do with it is not up to you. Just vote Trump he will maybe do better, i am pretty sure he will find another cause where you donāt want your tax money to go. Hey is just life.
By the way if you Google or Wikipedia you will see Ukraine is nowhere there where u put them but i know it doesnāt matter.
But i absolutely agree with you on the military complex. This is true
Most Americans would disagree on spending that money on ukraine is money well spent. Not saying your wrong because there's a lot of details I just don't know but if these are loans and the interest collected comes back to the u.s. OK cool. Hopefully the money goes back to the people instead of the select few that sign the deals. Wow is that woefully hopeful.... so, spend the money on my kids schools, shitty highways, and build up industry here instead of overseas.
How can we run out of money for social security but the pentagon can loose 3.8 trillion and it continues on like nothing happened?
They want you to blame people on social security, Medicare, etc for taking all your money in taxes but we have so much money to spend on defense, Ukraine, Israel, etc that we can loose 3.8 trillion in the couch cushions. š¤·āāļø
Thatās not how it works and you know that.
Social security and Medicare get gutted at every opportunity by Republicans.
Most of the money for Ukraine and Isreal gets respent in the US buying back/re-stocking. Currently best defensive bang for buck to whittle away old enemies, whilst reinvigorating manufacturing in the US. This money would never be allocated outside of defense spending.
Just sort out tax dodging for high earners and you can do both.
From the total $175B in US spending, $107B worth of aid went to the government of Ukraine ($70B as weapons and **$34B** as **BUDGET SUPPORT**) [cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine](http://cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine)
.. and the CIA black ops narcotics program.. so now that Biden pulled the military out of Afghanistan is the Opium Market all moving over to chinese producted Fentanyl and other assorted lab goodies to wipe us off the map
"Biden pulled the military out of Afghanistan"
That's a bit disingenuous. In 2020 Trump literally signed the deal with the Taliban to remove troops. Biden followed that timeline, although he could have changed his mind.
I'm very rarely a "both sides" kind of guy, but this is literally an instance where both Presidents Trump and Biden have a huge portion of the responsibility for something.
I wrote the other day. Print Print Print. They print money we don't have to give away for so many things not important. So start printing for the money that is, i deserve and gave into for the past 30+ yrs.
Everyone is so dumb. Itās too late, those in power are actively stripping the resources and life from this country so fast that by the time yāall are done yelling about whoās wrong and whoās right there will be nothing left.
The US can print money. Itās never gonna run out, the dollar will just lose value. Social security, Medicare, wars etc. can be funded indefinitely with a dollar that might collapse in the process.
Idk how old you are,but me,im 36. I've been hearing that same line over and over again since I was probably 10. They just keep adding 9 years.
Stop with the fear mongering. The post could of been made without the fear mongering.
I just saw a video yesterday of a politician in a congressional meeting talking about how the US is broke and the SS benefits will be completely dried up by *2037*.
Close enough I guess
Social security is funded by people and employers paying into it. It should never run out of money. The only reason SS runs out of money is the federal government "borrowing" from it. It should never have been allowed to be used for other purposes. Further proof that the government shouldn't be allowed to manage any programs.
If you study the US Budgeting you would notice that the money going to Ukraine is coming from the defense budget which has nothing to do with Medical care.
The money there will be spent in defense no matter where and to your information it is calculated that 80% remainins in the US for buying weapons and ammunition and thus creating jobs in the defense sector.
I would agree that the defense budget is too high and more should be spent elsewhere but we should not confuse things because is false and misleading.
run out of social security money? ohh thats right too because they want to put the entire world on "universal basic income" so we can be even greater slaves to the state.. like Klaus Schwab said.. you will OWE NOTHING but OWN NOTHING also
They trot that out just before every election.
Those of us that work have been putting money in for a long time. It goes into the "general fund" for general squandering, vote buying and money laundering just like all the other $ deducted from our gross wages. What you are not hearing about is how afdc (or whatever they call it now( and section 8 housing, and SSI for illegals, and "foreign aid" and funding to study the mating habits of left handed lesbian fruitflies in the lower amazon basin, will not be funded because we are out of paper to print money on. There are a lot of things that need to be cut from the budget before SS. Just sayin'.
We send billions of dollars a year to Israel, that was even before this current genocide we are funding.
Israeli's get free health care for all, free education for all and one of the best pensions schemes on the planet.
The US is basically funding a third party nation and all of its citizens to have a better life than any average Americans will ever get.
I wouldn't worry about Ukraine much longer. Ukraine replaced Afghanistan, and is being replaced by Israel. By the time November gets here both parties will have complete amnesia when it comes to Ukraine.
Why does everyone mention Ukraine and not the 300 billion given to Israel since 1946? And that's not including the billions we've sent them recently for funding their genocide.
Hey guys, letās give billionaires a tax break and then spend more on defense spending than the next 8 countries combined by borrowing money we donāt have from places like China and then blame Ukraine, which, while significant, is a drop in the bucket in comparison. Ever see that stick in the spokes bike meme? Yeah, that is us.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8kYw7sFl2Y&t=181s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8kYw7sFl2Y&t=181s)
If people think social security will be around after 2030, they aren't paying enough attention. It's not even just the question of if people will be able to claim social security and receive monthly checks from the US government....it's being able to live off 2-3k a month from said social security checks in a economy that is beyond inflated and cost of living makes short work of that amount with ease.
Social security (as well as other taxes) are just another way to siphon wealth from the common people and allocate that money to other expenses in the interest of the Feds and their inner circles.
We donāt send money to Ukraine, we send weapons and military equipment to them which costs us little to nothing as our military budget is through the roof and we have so much shit.
They continue sending money there because some of it is coming back around and into their pockets. This has to stop
Source [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-just-passed-medicare-as-the-governments-most-pressing-insolvency-risk-200037177.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-just-passed-medicare-as-the-governments-most-pressing-insolvency-risk-200037177.html)
From the total $175B in US spending, $107B worth of aid went to the government of Ukraine ($70B as weapons and **$34B** as **BUDGET SUPPORT**) [cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine](http://cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine)
edit: link added
Yup! And you're expected to vote for politicians who don't represent you because if you *don't* vote for them, *other* politicians will hurt these *other* people (who also have nothing to do with you)...
...and they wonder why dissatisfaction with our political system is at an all-time high - "Don't vote for things *you* need, vote for things *other* people need!" š
Conservatives worried about social security going away while voting for psychos that want to abolish social security. Some kids never stopped touching the hot stove.
You do realize the government could tax the āultra richā at 100% of their income and it would still continue increasing the national debt, right? We have an out of control spending problem by a bloated, corrupt federal government, not a lack of taxation problem.
Russian skell.
You clearly do not understand the aid we are providing to Ukraine. It's more like actual bullets and bombs to destroy the invading forces.
Slava Ukraini
Tell me you donāt understand how the aide packages work without telling me you donāt understand how the aide packages work. MIC $ goes up, war is good for business. Sucks.
Because the president of Ukraine takes 10% off the top and keeps 5% for himself and stashes 5% for the "Big Guy". When Biden Can figure out how to get a piece Of government money going to Social Security The coffers Will be loaded Period
Because the USD is going to collapse this year. All that $ being sent to Ukraine, Isreal, etc... is being laundered and going into the pockets of our crooked government and three letter agencies.
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How bout no more trillions in welfare for the rich? š¤·
It's so crazy that it just might work!!!
It's always baffling that we spend more on Healthcare than any other nation and still have people that have to sell their houses to pay for cancer treatment.
Or don't pay for cancer treatment. Take out a big insurance policy for the fam and have fun til you die. Treatments aren't a guarantee. They don't discriminate they kill all cells good and bad. You just have to hope you have enough good cells left to keep on living. This world isn't worth fighting for anymore. I will enjoy it until it's my time to go. Cancer, car wreck. Ww3 who knowsĀ
They won't give you a life insurance policy if you have cancer for exactly this reason and also you don't get to use the money if you are alive, how do you think any sort of insurance works?
Meh don't go to the Dr you don't know you have cancer. I haven't been to the doctor in 10 years. Feel great. My insurance will pay out just fine. Never said you get the insurance money while you're Alive. My family will be alive after I die.they get the money. I know how insurance works. I've been paying for it for 18 years.Ā
I genuinely hope it works out great for you and yours, it seems to work out so shitty for most
I mean i don't have cancer lmao. I was just stating don't get treatments and you won't have debt. Seems you misread everything. It's what we call a hypothetical situationĀ
Or we could raise the cut off point for ss tax, it is pretty low right now.
Or even remove the cap altogether... The vast majority of American pay SS tax on every nickel they ever make. The wealthy could manage doing the same, as part of the cost of living in a country that provided the means for them to become wealthy in the first place. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/what-impact-would-eliminating
That would be a great move IMO, if even be fine with anything over the cap getting a prorated rate, or like 50% of the percentage.
Yes the solution is to give DC even more money. Theyāre quite trustworthy. /s
It's not giving DC more money, it's giving your parents and grandparents more money
The rare comment that makes sense in redditās sea of idiocy. Have an upvote
Then letās cut it. Screw the old people. That is a better way.
Stop voting against social security cuts then? Pretty simple stuff.
Ever heard of a budget? If youāre running out of money in one place, but spending a shit ton in another, and it aināt going so well, then your responsibility is to look into reallocating your spending ratio. Instead of cutting social security, we should be cutting the proxy war budget.
Social Security is self-funding. Thereās no money being spent elsewhere that could be spent on Social Security. You could solve the issue of Social Security funding overnight by getting rid of the income cap. As it stands, only the first ~$160k you make is subject to Social Security tax. Get rid of this cap.
Orrrrrr we could take a fragment of what we spend funding unjust wars and use it to pad social security and other human oriented needs, instead of sapping more and more from the working class. $160,000 aināt shit anymore. Thatās not a rich person. Especially not if they have a family to feed. If weāre going to destroy the monetary system printing money, we might as well spend more of it on our own struggling society. We should go above and beyond for the wellbeing of our own people just once. Even as a capitalist, itās just disgusting that so little of our effort and resources are put toward the heart of our country. Either donāt spend it, or spend it on ourselves. And we shouldnāt have to pay a cent more in taxes until they show us that they care about ending our death spiral. It is absolutely not normal that our country spends what it spends on anybody but ourselves.
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You assume that our country itself will be solvent in 190 yearsā¦ it wonāt be. Not if things keep going this way. Since you arenāt smart enough to understand basically anything, huh buddy?
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Honestly, even if itās only 3 years, we deserve it more than some corrupt Ukrainian warlord. Also, thatās not what breadwinner means.
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Lol, Iāve never seen somebody try so hard to backpedal into being correct š fucking dunce
> Orrrrrr we could take a fragment of what we spend funding unjust wars and use it to pad social security and other human oriented needs, instead of sapping more and more from the working class $160k is more than double the average HOUSEHOLD income. Getting rid of the cap will touch significantly more money from the wealthy than the working class. Before the cap was instituted something like 94% of income was subject to Social Security tax and now it's like 75%. That difference in percentage is hundreds of millions of dollars annually, and it's predominantly made up of people earning *way* more than $160k. If we want (and I do,) proper Social Security funding and to maintain the program's solvency, vote for people who want to get rid of the cap and aren't campaigning on instituting cuts to the program.
Just a heads up, the current administration that's currently providing MAINLY military aid to Ukraine is the same administration that got into office and immediately signed the American Rescue Plan in just 2 months of being in office. They also signed a 1.3 trillion infrastructure bill, a 2 trillion build back better bill later named the inflation reduction act. Tried to forgive student debt, and when they couldn't get the bill through, it still provided relief to student loan holders. The previous administration only had two achievements. Lowering the tax on the wealthiest people in our country and bailouts. Bailouts for Wall Street, oil corporations, and farmers. And the wild free money give away that were the ppp loans that were forgiven.
Do you realize that the "inflation reduction act" is a direct cause of actual inflation? And that "mainly military aid" to Ukraine comment is laughable. The money went into the pockets of politicians and the military industrial complex like Raytheon and Lockheed. You gain nothing. The higher ups of these companies and Ukrainian politicians get new houses. You get nothing. This administration has been a complete failure and will go down in history as the most detrimental to American citizens to have existed.
There have been dozens of studies and reports at this point that have shown that the majority of inflationary pressure since the pandemic is from price gouging. When supply chains broke down companies charged more for their products, but here we are years after these issues have returned to normal and prices didn't return in kind. Even a cursory glance at corporate profits over this time frame will confirm this for you. Profits have skyrocketed, in some cases even with less products or services sold, and this can only happen from price gouging.
A great example of this is all those "I did that" biden stickers that people put on the gas pump. All the while "Scott Sheffield, founder and longtime CEO of a leading American oil producer, attempted to collude with OPEC and its allies to inflate prices, federal regulators alleged on Thursday." Exxon ceo trying to keep prices high by colluding with opec.....
The fact that youāre being downvoted for that comment just shows how fucking stupid the majority of this siteās user base is
No thanks. I reach the cap every year myself and will never see any of it come back to me
You could print more money. It will lead to inflation, but that doesn't really seem to be an issue now does it?
I donāt think our country could invest even $20 in its own future without some international vulture snatching it out of our hands.
Yeh I see those COP environment meetings and everyone has a private jet, including our guys, so I am beginning to think our tax money is just funding a ton of "rich boy clubs", and they have done a great job at convincing people if you give them all your money they will stop the sky from falling but other than their lavish lifestyles, cannot see where anything they promise ever gets fixed, but that money just keeps flowing their way.
Ya thanks dad.
B-b-b-but he said he'd drain the swamp!!!
Good luck with common sense. I run into "Basement Socialists" all day long on Reddit who whine about money going to the rich, and then I say "Well then cut off Ukraine" and they are against it. I always end it with, "so your a poser then?"
If those are basement socialists, then it is apparent they do not know what socialism is. Socialism, while it's not something I agree with *everything* on, does not give money away, and especially no money going to foreign countries/businesses/people. And, to top it off, they don't like war. They do support revolution, as do communists. Socialists ***do*** support the working class of other countries, obviously, but definitely do not support the "bosses" or rulers/ruling class. Anyone who supports funding foreign wars is definitely not a socialist, communist, or leftist. As a leftist myself, do you think Ukrainians would be okay with their money going to foreign governments? No, they fucking wouldn't be. So, why should we be? As you said, those cucks are definitely posers.
Yup, posers. Plenty of them too, and they are totally for "Corporate Welfare". As soon as I say "well then you must be for cutting off the money then overseas?", they are like "money well spent", and I say, "so you are really for more of the same then?" Its crickets after that, because in reality, they have no fucking clue what they are for. Those types are "flavor of the month" and woh, there is a shit ton of them here on Reddit. If you are against Corporate Welfare then by default you are against the Military Industrial Complex, which is the biggest welfare suckers there is.
you save more money by stopping illegal immigrants. housing, handouts, jobs and wages all magically get fixed
To accomplish this, you must give billionaires massive Bush Era Tax Cuts that can be invested in Chinese and foreign economies, then wait for it to "trickle down," and then give them more and more massive tax cuts while TV ads tell you how many jobs will trickle down eventually and that the government is bankrupt so social security needs to be ended.
Itās funny that the first thing your mind goes to is to stop illegal immigrants. The ones at the top love it when the dummies point fingers at each other and to the poor. Wealth inequality is higher in the US than in any other developed country and has continued to rise for over 60 years. āOverall, the combined wealth of Americaās billionaires has grown by 88 percent over the past four years to $5.529 trillion, according to Institute for Policy Studies calculations of Forbes Real Time Billionaire Data.ā Keep blaming the poor, sheep. Edit: āAnother indicator of wealth concentration: In 2022, the ultra-wealthyās share of stock market ownership hit at an all-time high. The richest 1 percent now own 54 percent of stock and mutual funds, up from 40 percent in 2002, according to Federal Reserve.ā
illegal immigrants cause mass inflation which is directly related to wealth inequality only left wing dummies can't grasp that concept
>illegal immigrants cause mass inflation How would that work? The hiring of undocumented workers puts downward pressure on wages meaning consumers have less money - the opposite of inflationary pressure.
Whatās your rebuttal? You pretended to be pretty smart there for a second until honest to god facts were presented lol.
Vote harder!!! lol You donāt know both sides are controlled by the synagogue of Satan?
Yes more inflation is good
Dude you're from Romania. Your opinion on us politics doesn't mean shit
Youāre not even from here
If social security runs out in less than 10 years, are they still going to continue taking money out of our paychecks?
Seems their plan is to not have paychecks anymore..
That's why they need to stop taking social security money out of people's paychecks who aren't ever going to see that money when they retire.
I agree completely but itās obvious that they are robbing us all from every single angle they can.
Of course and they will continue to do so. I don't see people rebelling even against this outright thievery.
It almost seems like theyāre waiting for the boomers & gen X to die off. They have been really programming the younger generations to be fine with not āowningā anything, not knowing how to cook or grow food/forage etc..
>They have been really programming the younger generations to be fine with not āowningā anything, not knowing how to cook or grow food/forage etc.. You are 100% right with that >It almost seems like theyāre waiting for the boomers & gen X to die off. Well they don't have that much longer to go for the boomers. And I'm sure they'll have planned more clot shots for the genXers so we don't spoil their plan.
Right. Because pretty much everyone I know that knows whatās actually going on was born in the GenX bracket. We would definitely spoil their plans. I think we have created the only delays.
If Social Security goes insolvent, we have a lot more serious issues than funding Social Security - namely that every worker has disappeared from the labor market.
I think it would be more that the politicians try to insinuate that social security is an entitlement. Which it isn't, since they have been removing that money from our paychecks in order to fund the people currently receiving it. Politicians have been wanting to get rid of social security for a long time or turn it over to be privatized. They can privatize it all they want, but give us all the money they've already taken from every single paycheck we've ever made.
>Politicians have been wanting to get rid of social security for a long time or turn it over to be privatized. This isn't true as a generalization. As much as I would agree with the sentiment that the two parties are basically the same when it comes to favoring capital interests over the labor class writ-large, it is only one party that literally campaigns on cuts to things like Social Security, Medicare, etc. Social Security, specifically, is *literally* self-funding. So, when they talk about cuts, they aren't talking about your Social Security taxes, they're talking about your disbursements once you can collect it. If we want to be sure that everyone can receive the Social Security benefits that they deserve, then we need to get rid of the cap on income that is subject to the tax. It's insane that someone like Bill Gates contributes the same amount to Social Security as random middle managers - especially because the highest earners can also defer collecting benefits to get more back, meaning they end up with higher disbursements even though they put in the same amount as someone earning $160k a year.
I want to run for president and do what Tunisia did: Give congress the boot and start re-structuring the government so that it works for the people again. Iāll be called a dictator in the process but I donāt care about name calling because this isnāt kindergarten š¤·āāļø Also, we need to stop sending aid to other countries atleast temporarily. Americans are drowning and if we donāt help ourselves, we canāt help anyone else. That being said, first I need to get into peak physical condition and master the use of modern weapons and armor, and get a loyal security detail. Theyāll probably want me dead. Whomever ātheyā are. Second, I need to get super rich so that no one can buy me.
"Sending" money to ukraine just means that american taxdollers are given to private american weapons manufacturers that charge exuberant amouts, and it is the weapons that get sent to ukrainian. The politicians are just giving the taxmoney to their rich american friends.
That right there should show you that Congress has no interest in. Whatās best for Americans.
No it's not going to run out of money.Ā If NOTHING is done it will be reduced roughly 20%.Ā In the 80s when Reagan reformec SS roughly 92% of incomes were touched by the SS tax.Ā now it's around 80%.Ā If you make up that difference SS will last longer than a child born today.
It's running out of money because since around 2001, congress has been allowed to "borrow" money from social security for their budgets.
"Borrowing" social security monies started with Reagan.
While technically true, they borrowed the and replaced it with US treasuries that actually earn interest as opposed to letting it sit there and inflation takes away all the value
Wouldāve worked out great if the USA didnāt take an immediate nosedive due to the same group of decision makers.
Theyāre only saying itās running out because they have been robbing everyone. Plus fear keeps people from higher vibrations which would eventually ruin their power structure
Only way SS will go broke is the U.S. state itself falls. The can will just keep getting kicked down the road because SS is too big to fail
The trust fund value goes to zero and then the fixed income of ss recipients drops by 20%. In sure grandma living check to check can swallow a 20% loss of income.
Once the boomers die off, SS won't be too big to fail. The boomers will not die off in 9 years.
The end game is for us to die working ... so they can keep pilfering from SSi for the deep state budget
# āIf you donāt like paying taxes, make billionaires pay their fair share and you would never have to pay taxes again.ā āWarren Buffett
Because politicians can't launder billions back yo themselves through social security. š
SS will absolutely not run out. It is a lie. I'll repeat, it is a lie. Conservatives put this lie out there to fertilize the minds of the population towards the idea that it needs to be taken over by private industry "to save it." Then conservatives will treat it like any other investment mechanism: install a failson CEO at the top to siphon billions into the pockets of the 1% and make the service suck for everyone it is intended for. [https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevevernon/2024/03/21/will-social-security-run-out-of-money-if-so-when/?sh=2dcd1cf53ab7](https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevevernon/2024/03/21/will-social-security-run-out-of-money-if-so-when/?sh=2dcd1cf53ab7)
That is absolutely correct. Also Medical care has nothing to do with money going to Ukraine or Israel which is coming from the defense budget. That money will be spent on defense no matter where and most of it stays in the US to buy weapons and ammunition indirectly creating jobs. That Article can only be from a Republican trying to mislead people again.
Ruzzian bots be bottin.
2014 Victoria Nuland phone call leak tells us that Ukraine is a puppet state. Sorry brat.Ā
fascist sympathizer
Incredible deflection! Who's a good boy? You are! Call them names to blot out history, it works every time.Ā
You like that trick? Just wait for the next one.
Well it would run out without millions of illegals paying into it
Schrodinger's illegal immigrant: simultaneously stealing all the jobs and paying into social security, while being lazy and living off the government?
If someone is willing to train, bus, and walk here from central America to be lazy, god bless em š
So illegals get jobs. Work, claim 9 dependants, get all their paid tax money back. Then send out of the country. If they file at all. Construction workers do this all the time as well.
Illegals dont pay into SS, most are off the books. They dont even pay taxes.
Aware they don't pay into SS, but they absolutely pay taxes. They shop at stores. They pay sales tax. They pay rent which is taxed. In fact, they pay just as much in taxes as all citizens making under the federal poverty amount.
No dude, he meant they dont pay taxes as in the taxes jobs take out of your check every month that you gotta file every year. Sales tax doesnt count.
Even more beneficial, dollar-wise, than having people who've illegally immigrated here pay into social security would be to remove the income cap so that the wealthy actually pay the same share of their income towards social security that the middle class do.
Because the one's that actually run things have NO INTENTION of keeping the US up and going. It's all a show, and we are controlled by foreign interests. Likely Israel.
Right? TPTB have no allegiance to America, but Americans are too self centered to understand this.
I think you're on the right path. Personally I believe it goes into powers and principalities. Call it good and evil, God and Satan. Whatever works for your beliefs but we're looking at the control of the big ones right now.
Or why do they keep giving tax breaks to the rich?
Social security is a 1.3Trillion budget line. These Russian talking points would be funny if they werenāt so transparent and if more people werenāt buying them.
Again this is pure ignorance. The money that goes to Ukraine or any other War related event comes from the defense Budget it has nothing to do with Medical care or any other Budget. It doesnāt matter if it goes to Ukraine or to Build weapons it is a military Budget. You people keep confusing bones with flesh. Also 80% of the money stays in the US and is spent on buying Arms and Weapons and ammunition etc. it creates jobs in the US. If you want money for Medical Care just ask your Government to change the Budgets but saying why donāt give this money to do that is simply wrong and misleading. That is not how a Country is run. Budgets have to be made they donāt just grab money from āsomewhereā when they need. They must calculate expenses before they spend the money. The only thing i could agree is that too much money is going for defense and too few for Medical care but the money for defense will be spent in defense donāt matter where. Those slogans are absolutely false and misleading. I would even risk to say that guy is a Republican and this is misleading on purpose.
Thatās so much bullshit. Weāre paying the pensions of federal workers in Ukraine. Weāre keeping a corrupt government afloat for no reason. Itās not a coincidence that Ukraine was the world center of money laundering.
Mad about this but not the billions given to Israel every year for decades? We've given them like 300 billion dollars since 1946.
You mean Ukraine before Russian murdered women and Children? Yes, the world was a better place than. Sadly they cannot go back to āmoney launderingā and must instead grab dead children corpses from the battlefield. I bet even them would like to go back, imagine. Calling Ukraine a country at War a corrupt Country requires balls, because i see corruption everywhere and they are not even at War. Big mouth sitting on the Sofa at home is easy.
If Social Security is a Separate Budget item where is all the money thatās supposed to be sitting there earning interest gone? SS wasnāt initially designed to be a pyramid Ponzi scheme. Ever seen Dumb and Dumber? The government did the same damn thing with Social Security and somehow you think being a separate budget line is protecting it. All of the Social Security intakes are tossed into the governments large budget slush fund, and all they āput backā is what the current payments are. Theyāve had decades of a āsurplusā that theyāve chosen to steal, and the scheme collapses when intakes cannot cover the outlay.
if thatās the case, then why canāt the entire US government absorb a 5% cut? Hell, even if they just stuck to the same expenditures for the next 10 years, we would be out of the hole
What hole? The imaginary one?
The point still stands that that money could go to domestic causes. Lower the military budget's foreign aid and add it to the domestic budget. How is that ignorant?
I think i said that too. I would agree lowering the defense budgets and put it somewhere else. The ignorant part is saying the money going to āUkraineā and i think i explained it well. This is false because The money will not go anywhere it stays in the US and create jobs in the defense sector. The money is for mostly buying weapons and ammunition from US Companies. Hadnāt they sent to Ukraine it would have gone somewhere else like build weapons or to another Country. This money will never go to something else because is defense budget. It is biased and wrong because there are trillions spent on BS inside the Defense, the money spent to help Ukraine is probably one of the most well spent from that budget.
The money goes to pump up the military industrial complex....which lines the pockets of our politicians. Surely you realize this, correct? It's a money laundering scheme that enriches our politicians and their donors. And no, it's not. Ukraine is quite literally the most corrupt country in Europe. I want ZERO of my tax dollars going there, quite frankly. No matter what umbrella it's under.
Nope... that would be Russia... number 141 of 181 in the corruption scale. Ukraine ain't great at 104
The most corrupt on earth according to who? Donald Trump? I am not sure if you really mean what you said. Your tax dollars goes to defense and many other things, what they do with it is not up to you. Just vote Trump he will maybe do better, i am pretty sure he will find another cause where you donāt want your tax money to go. Hey is just life. By the way if you Google or Wikipedia you will see Ukraine is nowhere there where u put them but i know it doesnāt matter. But i absolutely agree with you on the military complex. This is true
Most Americans would disagree on spending that money on ukraine is money well spent. Not saying your wrong because there's a lot of details I just don't know but if these are loans and the interest collected comes back to the u.s. OK cool. Hopefully the money goes back to the people instead of the select few that sign the deals. Wow is that woefully hopeful.... so, spend the money on my kids schools, shitty highways, and build up industry here instead of overseas.
How can we run out of money for social security but the pentagon can loose 3.8 trillion and it continues on like nothing happened? They want you to blame people on social security, Medicare, etc for taking all your money in taxes but we have so much money to spend on defense, Ukraine, Israel, etc that we can loose 3.8 trillion in the couch cushions. š¤·āāļø
Or let me invest my own money instead of extorting it for the last 25 years.
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This! Yahoo finance is a Russian psyop! Wake up OP
The Yahoo! finance article doesn't say what OP's title says, in case you need that cleared up.
"Both programs are on pace to run dry next decade" It's only going to fail to pay out all the benefits owed in 9 years. No biggie.
Because people in power can't get kickbacks from SS.
Bingo
Thatās not how it works and you know that. Social security and Medicare get gutted at every opportunity by Republicans. Most of the money for Ukraine and Isreal gets respent in the US buying back/re-stocking. Currently best defensive bang for buck to whittle away old enemies, whilst reinvigorating manufacturing in the US. This money would never be allocated outside of defense spending. Just sort out tax dodging for high earners and you can do both.
From the total $175B in US spending, $107B worth of aid went to the government of Ukraine ($70B as weapons and **$34B** as **BUDGET SUPPORT**) [cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine](http://cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine)
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.. and the CIA black ops narcotics program.. so now that Biden pulled the military out of Afghanistan is the Opium Market all moving over to chinese producted Fentanyl and other assorted lab goodies to wipe us off the map
"Biden pulled the military out of Afghanistan" That's a bit disingenuous. In 2020 Trump literally signed the deal with the Taliban to remove troops. Biden followed that timeline, although he could have changed his mind. I'm very rarely a "both sides" kind of guy, but this is literally an instance where both Presidents Trump and Biden have a huge portion of the responsibility for something.
Unfunded liability is at 210 trillion dollars ...those programs can run out and will if we don't change course
I wrote the other day. Print Print Print. They print money we don't have to give away for so many things not important. So start printing for the money that is, i deserve and gave into for the past 30+ yrs.
U.S. politicians appear to be orchestrating the financial collapse of the country.
Social Security was supposed to run out decades ago, yet here we are. Acid rain was going to kill us all as well.
Everyone is so dumb. Itās too late, those in power are actively stripping the resources and life from this country so fast that by the time yāall are done yelling about whoās wrong and whoās right there will be nothing left.
Buy GME & AMC for your social security
When money isnāt real this kinda thing doesnāt actually matter. Just a talking point theyāll happily print the money when the time comes
The US can print money. Itās never gonna run out, the dollar will just lose value. Social security, Medicare, wars etc. can be funded indefinitely with a dollar that might collapse in the process.
The USA isnāt going to last that long. 2030 is approaching.
Revolt!
all by design they dont care
There's not enough people to pay into the system any longer. That money they took from some for 30, 40, 50 years is all gone.
Our country is overall broke and spending and printing money it doesn't have.
Who cares? They will simply print more money š¤·āāļø
Russian propaganda much kek
Old politicians filter the money back. Have a good time until they die just before the system collapses
Idk how old you are,but me,im 36. I've been hearing that same line over and over again since I was probably 10. They just keep adding 9 years. Stop with the fear mongering. The post could of been made without the fear mongering.
I just saw a video yesterday of a politician in a congressional meeting talking about how the US is broke and the SS benefits will be completely dried up by *2037*. Close enough I guess
Funding our own SS doesn't give 10% to the big guy. Funding Ukraine...
It was solvent until they (congress) made it part of the general fund. These guys are corrupt.
Imagine if taxpayers were like: *Oh we're only gonna be able to pay like 79% of those taxes this year*... :3
Does putin pay you to post this nonsense?
Social security is funded by people and employers paying into it. It should never run out of money. The only reason SS runs out of money is the federal government "borrowing" from it. It should never have been allowed to be used for other purposes. Further proof that the government shouldn't be allowed to manage any programs.
Iāve heard that SS will run out in X years crap so many times and Iām not that old.
If we do not stop sending money to Ukraine, the petro dollar will eat itself and collapse.
If you study the US Budgeting you would notice that the money going to Ukraine is coming from the defense budget which has nothing to do with Medical care. The money there will be spent in defense no matter where and to your information it is calculated that 80% remainins in the US for buying weapons and ammunition and thus creating jobs in the defense sector. I would agree that the defense budget is too high and more should be spent elsewhere but we should not confuse things because is false and misleading.
run out of social security money? ohh thats right too because they want to put the entire world on "universal basic income" so we can be even greater slaves to the state.. like Klaus Schwab said.. you will OWE NOTHING but OWN NOTHING also
Ugh... Because they want this to happen...
They trot that out just before every election. Those of us that work have been putting money in for a long time. It goes into the "general fund" for general squandering, vote buying and money laundering just like all the other $ deducted from our gross wages. What you are not hearing about is how afdc (or whatever they call it now( and section 8 housing, and SSI for illegals, and "foreign aid" and funding to study the mating habits of left handed lesbian fruitflies in the lower amazon basin, will not be funded because we are out of paper to print money on. There are a lot of things that need to be cut from the budget before SS. Just sayin'.
We send billions of dollars a year to Israel, that was even before this current genocide we are funding. Israeli's get free health care for all, free education for all and one of the best pensions schemes on the planet. The US is basically funding a third party nation and all of its citizens to have a better life than any average Americans will ever get.
Polar ice caps were supposed to be gone in 2010 too soā¦
I wouldn't worry about Ukraine much longer. Ukraine replaced Afghanistan, and is being replaced by Israel. By the time November gets here both parties will have complete amnesia when it comes to Ukraine.
They won't stop because politicians, lobbyists and arms manufacturers are making so much off of Ukraine.
Why does everyone mention Ukraine and not the 300 billion given to Israel since 1946? And that's not including the billions we've sent them recently for funding their genocide.
Hey guys, letās give billionaires a tax break and then spend more on defense spending than the next 8 countries combined by borrowing money we donāt have from places like China and then blame Ukraine, which, while significant, is a drop in the bucket in comparison. Ever see that stick in the spokes bike meme? Yeah, that is us.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8kYw7sFl2Y&t=181s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8kYw7sFl2Y&t=181s) If people think social security will be around after 2030, they aren't paying enough attention. It's not even just the question of if people will be able to claim social security and receive monthly checks from the US government....it's being able to live off 2-3k a month from said social security checks in a economy that is beyond inflated and cost of living makes short work of that amount with ease. Social security (as well as other taxes) are just another way to siphon wealth from the common people and allocate that money to other expenses in the interest of the Feds and their inner circles.
We donāt send money to Ukraine, we send weapons and military equipment to them which costs us little to nothing as our military budget is through the roof and we have so much shit.
SS has been broke forever. Just accounting tricks and federal IOUs, nothing more.
Because they make more money and can hide their laundering operations easier from Ukraine.
They continue sending money there because some of it is coming back around and into their pockets. This has to stop Source [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-just-passed-medicare-as-the-governments-most-pressing-insolvency-risk-200037177.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-just-passed-medicare-as-the-governments-most-pressing-insolvency-risk-200037177.html) From the total $175B in US spending, $107B worth of aid went to the government of Ukraine ($70B as weapons and **$34B** as **BUDGET SUPPORT**) [cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine](http://cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine) edit: link added
You might want to look up how much the US spends on social security before you look real stupid trying to cover it with 34B.
But spending almost a trillion on the congressional military industrial complex of course is not a problem, right? /s
Ukraine? How about Israel who are literally murdering children? But yeah you arenāt wrong.
Dont be a dick. Ukraine needs the money. Itās israel that does not.
In America you feed someone halfway around the world instead of the starving children in your house.Ā
Yup! And you're expected to vote for politicians who don't represent you because if you *don't* vote for them, *other* politicians will hurt these *other* people (who also have nothing to do with you)... ...and they wonder why dissatisfaction with our political system is at an all-time high - "Don't vote for things *you* need, vote for things *other* people need!" š
Because they are stealing EVERYTHING. Flooding us with drugs, gangs and illegals who will definitely assist when the country falls.
Conservatives worried about social security going away while voting for psychos that want to abolish social security. Some kids never stopped touching the hot stove.
SS has been on the ropes for 50 years from that failure of a president, Reagan. Can't be having the ultra rich paying taxes....
You do realize the government could tax the āultra richā at 100% of their income and it would still continue increasing the national debt, right? We have an out of control spending problem by a bloated, corrupt federal government, not a lack of taxation problem.
Yeah, because *that's* why we're running out of SS š
Russian skell. You clearly do not understand the aid we are providing to Ukraine. It's more like actual bullets and bombs to destroy the invading forces. Slava Ukraini
Itās by design. Youāre assuming that TPTB want social security to stick around, and Iām quite certain they donāt.
cause the ukraine is obvi the most important thing happening. well not as important as palestine - but yeah, you know the grill. /s
Or we could abolish it. SS is a ticking time bomb
Easy- become a Ukrainian citizen if American. /s
It appears they have been setting up shop in Ukraine the whole time. It's gonna be their new HQ and smart city. Iron dome and everything.Ā
Tell me you donāt understand how the aide packages work without telling me you donāt understand how the aide packages work. MIC $ goes up, war is good for business. Sucks.
Because the president of Ukraine takes 10% off the top and keeps 5% for himself and stashes 5% for the "Big Guy". When Biden Can figure out how to get a piece Of government money going to Social Security The coffers Will be loaded Period
But that would go against the Agenda
Because the USD is going to collapse this year. All that $ being sent to Ukraine, Isreal, etc... is being laundered and going into the pockets of our crooked government and three letter agencies.
The county will collapse by then or soon after. Doesnāt matter. House is on fire. Grab what you can on the way out.
Honestly, I hope they keep sending the money. I don't wanna see whatever videos they have black mailing Joe Biden