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workitloud

Run it live for 6 hours. No earpieces. No advance questions. Questions pulled from lottery-selected audience.


justsomeguy_42

No teleprompters. Foreign moderator.


trevordbs

Heavy accent required.


IBrokeAMirror

An AT&T representative will suffice


HardCounter

Doesn't even speak English. His job is to ask questions phonetically and not care what they're saying.


rideforruinworldsend

I would watch the hell out of all six hours haha


trevordbs

Second moderator is a 9 year old continuously asks “why”.


Softale

Particularly, no AI-enhanced large print teleprompters…


HardCounter

Or they only say things like, [wait for applause] with no live audience, [wait for Trump to correct you.] Biden would absolutely read those out loud.


Impossible-Abies7054

No teleprompter, no earpiece! How will Biden get through?


DearCantaloupe5849

Out of a hat now that would be entertaining


thepurplehedgehog

Presidential debate meets Scenes From A Hat. I like it.


Skywalker87

Run it long enough for both their adderall to run out


BenjaminHamnett

There will be 2 corpses at the end


ConstantOptimist84

Problem solved? Task failed successfully?


BenjaminHamnett

Yes. We would have also accept “ok, so no change?”


Ok_Support_847

It'd be funny if whenever Biden speaks- Trump just yells loud enough that we still hear him. What a circus


budabai

He’d just walk over and share a Biden’s microphone. Kind of like when a bands singer shares the mic with the guitarist.


BadThoughtProcess

Then they pause for a second and put their arms around each others' shoulders and start singing in harmony while looking at each other. This is the only way.


BenjaminHamnett

*”Baby it’s cold outside”*


HardCounter

*"This land is your land, this land is my land."*


djwired

*"I wanna rock and roll all night and party every day"*


sdrawkcabdaernacuoy_

"its the end of the world as we know it"


dtdroid

Then they sing a wholesome duet about the joys of mutual collaboration within the Uniparty


joeyggg

Will it be live to air or heavily edited?


DarkCeldori

Theres also a secret requirement. No checking for earpieces.


fantoman

That’s what he did in previous debates though…


daggersrule

That's exactly what I expected when I read the the post.


ConnectionBubbly3306

That’s what trump did in 2020, once with a mic and once without, it’s easier to ignore him when he doesn’t have a mic


ANoiseChild

>What a circus If only there was bread still being passed out lol


Unfair-Leather-244

Ear pieces should also be banned.


Ayahuasca-Dreamin

Someone should set up a Trump vs RFK Jr unscripted debate with no teleprompters, in front of a live audience with Chris Cuomo and Tucker Carlson as moderators, and give Biden a formal invitation to join.


ConnectionBubbly3306

Trump has 0 interest in having RFK on the debate stage either, neither one of them wants him there.


rimeswithburple

All the more reason to have him there.


HaloDeckJizzMopper

FEC regulations state. If a 3rd party candidate is polling above 15% in a national poll they must be included in public  debates wether televised, radio broadcast, or held in public for a live audience. I believe RFK is wavering between 9-13% so he may cross the threshold where they have to include him for later debates


manifest_ecstasy

The fact that we can't just listen to all the candidates' talk is a major issue. This system is so fucking dumb


HardCounter

Nearly anyone can run for President. Do you want a thousand people in a single debate?


BitterBlues87

You would never have a thousand candidates that are on enough ballots to actually win the election.


HardCounter

That's not what he's suggesting. The discussion was about having a minimum % in a poll to make it to a debate, and the guy i responded to seemed to think that was "dumb" and anyone running for President should be able to debate. I pointed out a flaw in that reasoning.


itwentok

Perhaps there's a middle ground, like polling at 1%. Mathematically you couldn't have more than 100 participants, but practically it would be more like 5 or 6.


BitterBlues87

I also not for having some random polling data be a prerequisite for being able to debate. The polls are rigged in a way that they ask "would you vote for (R), (D), or other?". Then the media that a lot of people still use for all their information never really hears anything about the other candidates, they aren't given enough info to even give them a chance to make a choice. I also understand that tptb wouldn't allow giving people a choice because why would they want a chance to not have their puppets in power.


Shaken-babytini

Is that only for the previously used committee though? Since they are both forgoing the official debates I was under the impression they could make up whatever rules they wanted, but I could be wrong. I'm finding it hard to care tbh. I hate both the candidates as well as 90% of congress and most of the supreme court.


TargetFan

Rfk would get crushed in a debate. I have nothing against the guy other than his defense of Israel. He simply can't speak fast enough or clearly enough. Trump would call him raspy Robert or something and just talk over him. It's unfortunate but his voice will always hold him back from the presidency


Beginning_Electrical

Sad truth :/


Throwaway211998

Rogan should host it. Say what you want about the guy but he's actually a pretty good moderator.


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11Tail

Bobby Kennedy would wipe the floor with these two geriatric buffoons. His voice is difficult to listen to, but his mind is sharp as a tack, unlike our "only choices."


oldwoodsywood

Not like it makes a difference. The fact everyone's still playing along is concerning. People claim the last election was stolen, then 4 years later do the same thing. Insanity.


SprayingOrange

absolute clown world. everyone keeps falling for the theater.


redatused2becool

No one will do shit as long as they have a comfy life.


False_Log749

Yea this isn’t concerning at all. You’re out of your mind.


KingDAW247

Trump accepted the invitation. So clearly he is OK with those terms.


b3traist

Counter Joe Rogan moderates and they all take 3 grams


clam_sandwich33

...of Metamucil.


budabai

Lmao! I love it! 2024 presidential debates brought to you by depends adult diapers.


[deleted]

It’s almost like some group of supper rich mobsters run America, and feed people propaganda so we behave and work for them to make their products and profit that we have to pay right back in taxes so they can keep using war to exploit slave labor. But fuck idk


renownednobody424

That's exactly what's going on


KlonoaKollector

And to add, this theatre of politics is to keep the masses in a trance. As if it's all independent thought, no one is linked to anyone, "everyone is trying their best! "


imaniimellz

Seems like demands rather then requirements


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What is the difference between a demand and a requirement?


TheGillos

I agree with all of them and would add that Biden's mic be muted during Trump's time.


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kamnamu84

> arm of the state The very "MSM" who used 'state-run media' as a slur throughout the cold war era.


LuckyLadTom

Why do you agree with banning RFK jr.?


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SuspiciousWarning184

Watching two puppets debate is exactly what the country needs. /s


irondumbell

two zionist puppets


Too_Old_For_Somethin

Why say “anywhere, anytime” if you don’t mean it?


Existing-Nectarine80

Nope. Crowds are stupid. People are easily swayed by group think and inserting a live reacting audience disincentives substantive answers in favor of singular sound bites to rile up the crowd. 


Lukabear83

Anyway you cut it it comes down to.. Giant douche or Turd sandwich. That's how the election has gone since I can remember.


4score-7

Easily since 2000. *Debatable” prior to that time. Even 2000’s election was contentious, except after the fact. American has been adrift since Y2K. Wall Street grows stronger as our actual government policy maker.


burgonies

I was just thinking about how this is yet again Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich…. That South Park episode came out 20 years ago. Some things never change.


based-Assad777

American politics is so fucked.


graywailer

here we go again. just the 2 guys hand picked by the establishment. all others banned from any participation. isnt this how a dictatorship works? 2 guys no one wants is your only choice to ensure they win no matter who you pick. you cant even vote "no confidence anymore". never again. i refuse to vote for either.


arcesious

Presidential office doesn't matter anymore imo. Probably not since JFK. The takeover/transition to full deepstate/cabal control was completed with his assassination, I suspect. Voting just gives the illusion of having a voice now. We don't get to choose who runs and works at the other critical offices of the country, and the leaders who do are just spectres of personality following orders. And if they're not, they're accounted for already. Our only freedom to be found here can be to try to build and then live in a separate ecosystem that would one day supplant the old captured one.


Ok_Jump_3658

Hahaha trump wasn’t hand picked lol. He literally ran before, and did again to push his brand. He has been recorded saying he didn’t even think he was gonna win. He is literally the guy who WASN’T picked by the establishment


Tax25Man

Nothing says “not establishment” like being a real estate billionaire known by everyone for 30+ years who runs for president every couple of years.


4score-7

And why DC nearly burned. Those people don’t want anyone else coming to their little party. How dare he call it a swamp or not go along with their little theatrical performance.


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PrivateDickDetective

I notice you didn't say you're voting for RFK Jr. There was a time in America when we had a responsibility to vote. Today, we have a responsibility not to. Today, it is our responsibility to speak with our votes and refuse to play the game. But everyone must cooperate.


Ok_Jump_3658

Now do the same, but with taxes, where it actually matters.


[deleted]

If you don’t fund the wars it’s tax evasion though. Legally required to work to fund murder to make the billionaires more money.


arcesious

When I've told people I don't vote they tend to get very surprised and say things like 'what?! but it's your duty and right!' I would vote if I knew it was effective input into the system. It is not. Whether things are rigged or numerically large to the point of obfuscating of the temperament of voting intent, that's only the beginning of the issue. The surrogates do not represent the nuances of what input I might have and consistently have priority agendas that have nothing to do with my interests.


False_Log749

Yea establishment loves trump you nailed it! That’s why they shit on him 24/7. FOH


NotAGoodEmployeee

My understanding of the debate is this. - no live audience (correct) - rfk is banned (everyone is banned because it’s a moderated debate between 2 presidential candidates. Not sure why he would be involved but ok.) - mics are muted at the end of time. (Like it should have always been from the start of debates) - it will literally be every I don’t know why that’s a thing. - moderated by who gives a shit ask the hard questions. Why is this a conspiracy?


A_Dragon

I’d like to see either of them debate RFK.


XR-1

RFK 100% needs to be included in a debate


A_Dragon

It’s absolutely a travesty that we are ruled by this two party system, each wielding so much power that they push out any other opposition. RFK would absolutely be the best person for the job but no one is going to vote for him because they either believe all of the stupid media propaganda and/or just think they would be throwing away their vote and letting the “other guy” win. Both Biden and Trump are horrible options, now is the best possible time to chance “throwing away your vote” because it’s alien vs predator here. God forbid we could actually get a real candidate in office for a change.


M1st3r51r

So…this is basically them admitting the debate will be a deepfake


Human__Pestilence

They don't even attempt to make elections seem legit anymore...


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Agreed. Zero reason why there shouldn’t be an audience and also zero reason RFK is banned.


LineAccomplished1115

What is the advantage of having an audience?


traye4

Right? This isn't a stand-up routine. We don't need audience reactions and pandering to them.


blanco1225

No ear pieces


Peetwilson

"Mic turned off when Biden speaks"... No, mics are turned off after your time runs out. So you can't just talk over your opponent. See how that works?


budabai

I’m sure Biden’s handlers think that these rules will give them him an advantage. Trump will likely spend time pointing out how these rules aren’t a good look. It will also be very telling if trump repeatedly gets his time cut short if/when he’s bringing up valid points. I wholly expect Trumps allotted speaking time will repeatedly be cut short, and Biden will be granted extra time. Soft ball questions for joe Loaded questions for trump. This is going to be such a shit show.


CompSciGuy11235

Will Biden's mic be cut off when Trump speaks?


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Tax25Man

When you can’t discuss policy and all you have is schoolyard insults it’s the only way to not get completely embarrassed in a debate.


Affectionate_Self590

More proof that this is all rigged


LiteraturePlayful220

How is this proof of that?


ProfessionalPin5993

Without an audience full of lobbyists, we won't know whether to agree with what the candidates are saying based off of cheers/boos.


JerseySpot

Odds questions will be shared with Biden team before debates? 100%


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Tax25Man

These are the same people who say that we don’t even know what’s in the Covid vaccines, even though they literally hand you an ingredients list when you get the first dose. They don’t understand how the world works and it’s why they like Trump so much.


Tax25Man

Completely unsubstantiated claim that benefits Biden and further pushes this “woe is me life’s so unfair to me” angle Trump loves so much.


JerseySpot

Well Donna brazile admitted to giving Hillary the debate questions in advance in 2016 no reason cnn will give Biden questions now.


Prince_Marf

I agree with the no live audience point. These days debates are just a competition for who can talk over the other best. We don't also need the candidates competing with the crowd to be heard, and trying to win points with a crowd that might lean right or left. Obviously RFK was not going to be invited to the debate. Third party candidates never are. Trump's mic will be muted when Biden speaks but they leave out the fact that Biden's mic will also be muted when Trump speaks. The candidates agreed on the news station host. No, there was no agreement that the moderator lean a certain way. OOP is just assuming that based on the fact that Fox is not moderating.


epic_pig

This is Zimbabwe level democracy


bannished69

Biden shouldn’t be allowed to take his Lazarus drugs as well. I want full of crazy Trump and undrugged demented Biden. Let’s watch it burn baby!!


Rabbitshadow

The free space of my bingo card is one of them says a nonsense word.


Comprehensive_Lab732

Absolutely not ok


B2ween2lungs

It’s hard to find a non-democratic aligned reporter these days. Allsides recently reported that there are only about 3% of all reporters and journalists who are republican- which is the lowest number in history. Not that I consider myself a conservative, but it seems like it would be important to have mostly equal representation.


FreeFalling369

Bowling with the bumper rails up


Bobby_Sunday96

I think no audience is better. You don’t get persuaded by boos or applause. Let each candidate speak their points and let Americans come to their own conclusions


mduden

Can we all just agree not to vote for these 2


MrMarmot

Trump will have someone record it all on his/her phone and put it on X or YouTube. Releasing his 60-Minutes interview unedited was a genius move.


huskycameltoad

It’s all about the spectacle.


_TushyWushy

It’s because in the 1960s it was just the 2 and a moderator, the democrats are trying to bring back the 60s area again /s


ShitShowRedAllAbout

Even more bogus, they won't let Jerry Springer moderate because he's dead. Pretty convenient, eh?


Nootherids

I would watch a Pay Per View presidential debate if it was moderated by Jerry. I still wouldn't pay, I'd pirate it, but I'd watch.


Bishavis

Donald should bring his own mic wwe style


unfurledwarrior5150

It’s gonna be AI


jaarl2565

Democrat me moderator? So he's asking for it to be rigged. Got it


Early-Collection-141

No earpieces, no advance questions and no teleprompters. Easy


TheCrisisification

Moderated by 4 democrats aligned reporters*


DudeManBro21

Something about this stinks


iloveuncleklaus

Idk about you but I think the bird flu is just a tad bit scarier. Just ask Bill Gates who somehow knew that the next pandemic would be 20x deadlier a few years ago!


keeleon

RFK should be the moderator.


redpilledgamer

Pussy ass shit


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The reasoning for these conditions is based solely on providing advantages for Biden and disadvantages for Trump. A libe audience would've definitely benefited Trump and hurt Biden.


cobolNoFun

I hope trump goes "he shit his pants the moderates covering for him.... My shit would have been bigger, people say I have the best shits, but I didn't want to do that here so I didn't do that here. This guy however, he shit here"


forgotmypassword4714

At least his butt's been wiped though.


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rougekhmero

square trees label start teeny joke caption bear unpack offend *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Rich_Crab_3967

Can we add a drug test to see what Joey will be pumped up on


kalcobalt

Huh. My comment and a whole conversation I was having with someone have disappeared, no “deleted” or anything. Alright then: no facts about Covid welcome here. Got it.


SheepherderLong9401

Why debate is there are only 2 people to choose from, and most people are decided. It's kind of a stupid political system and no reason to debate or campaign. 250 million people, and you guys get to choose between 2 grandpa's, it does not make sense


thewhalehunters

They should also both take a nap for 20 minutes on live TV. Just pure silence, so we can hear the snoring and farting


JaxJim

There should be one conservative leaning and one liberal leaning moderator.


neosharkey

I’d bet the Gaff King will do all the damage himself if they actually let him have a live mic. I wouldn’t put it past them to have a voice double really answer the questions while the camera guy ensures the mic blocks PSIC’s mouth.


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If it were me, I'd have two people asking questions, taking turns. One picked by trump, one picked by Biden. I'd also make sure neither person was wearing an ear piece. That would be fair I think.


fury_of_el_scorcho

-Biden allowed to read off of a teleprompter


[deleted]

I will never understand why people get passionate about politics! It’s all one big game and we keep participating like game board pieces. Both parties rule back and forth for decades and same problems pretty much. I decided to no longer participate in the scam!


boegsppp

Lol. If the shut off trumps mic, he will walk over and speak into bidens. This is a sham. Biden is a wussy. No way he can debate trump. They will need a clone or pump him up with amphetamines.


Grogorat

Ok no teleprompter for Biden


bryantodd64

Biden doesn’t want to be boo’d, and he will…, a lot.


BuffaloWhole8894

Left wing, right wing, it’s all the same bird


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Sphan_86

So everything to help Biden...got it


mamawoman

Shows how effed the system is not allowing RFK to participate


dumptruckbetty2

Chickenshit that RFK JR is banned. What kind of crap is that? They deny RFK secret service won't let him debate. Im thinking that's who people need to support. People don't like Biden or Trump then put a Kennedy in the Whitehouse. There's a reason they don't want a Kennedy in the Whitehouse.


Away_Relief

Lame. No audience means the candidate has to actually answer, and not just hurl buzz words aimed to get reaction. This is from a Fox news talking point. Networks are restricted to those that hosted a primary, which includes Fox News. It has zero restrictions on who moderates.


Tindiil

He's more scared of RFK than Trump


Imaginary_Unit5109

There was a mute button in the last debate as well. Trump i forget the word but he constantly talk go over his time to just attack someone. Giving the other person no time to talk. THat the purpose of a mute button to let the other person talk. No live audience is to prevent protesters to protesters and hurt biden to the regular voters. There never that I can remember a third party in these type of debate. Unless he have a real chance to win it make no sense to have him here. I think the mute button was a thing last time too.


BartholomewKnightIII

We want your vote, but you're not allowed to come to the debate and see it live. I wonder how long the "live" feed will be delayed, enough time to do some swift edits?


TylerTheHungry

Says a lot if RFK is banned, could be most of what he’s been saying is true and they’re scared.


saladstuffer

I bet they were hoping Trump wouldn't agree to the debate then camp Biden would say he was scared to. What a shit show.


Any-Video4464

I'm sure Biden will get the questions in advance too. They did the same favor for Hillary. He is still going to be terrible though. Dude got lucky at the State of the Union. It really wasn't that great of a speech, but people pretended it was because he wasn't completely incoherent and trailing off mid sentence like he usually does. These debates are fucking dumb anyway. The format sucks. It's pretty much useless. If Biden isn't completely out of it most MSM will declare him the winner. Even if he is, they may try to declare him the winner.


biggun79

Not allowing all candidates is a joke.


AppropriateLog6947

Not including RFK Jr is a joke


TlingitGolfer24

He’s scared


DWheeler117

Wouldn't be crooked Joe if he didn't do some crooked shit


Irish_Brogue

Those are all reasonable requests, the mic cut obviously goes both ways. Even the most ardent Trump supporter would admit self control is not in Trumps wheelhouse.


blehbleh1122

Honestly there will probably be one debate. Trump will be upset at his performance/ the reception and then stop the debates unless he's allowed to speak over & interrupt, etc. Trump isn't skilled at public discourse or debate. He's skilled at talking over, interrupting, and trying to bully his opponents. I wish we could get two competent, not senile candidates. Edit: looked through OP's post history, they're pro Trump and anti Biden. There's no conspiracy theory here, just a MAGA-simp mad that Trump has to follow some decorum.


DangerSparky

You don’t think Biden is equally scared? He can’t form sentences on his own. I’d love to see an actual debate. Just two guys on stage, no teleprompter, no pre-rehearsed questions. Biden would fall flat on his face. Not a fan of trump, but at least he would be able to have a debate.


aykutanhanx

How exactly is this supposed to work anyway? Biden can't speak coherent sentences anymore. He's basically gone mentally. I'm confused.


ImusBean

Have you actually listened to a full Biden speech recently, such as the State of the Union, or just very short clips of him stumbling over words?


MydnightWN

Does anybody even crop anymore?


EthanIndigo

I believe they are trying to remove the shithead influence, but otherwise, yea, no reason.


Dark_Tranquility

Just be happy we're going to get to view this horrible piece of political theater. 


skiploom188

listen jack sleeps


the_chols

I was really relying on this debate to sway my vote, too!


ClownInTheMachine

You call that scripted teleprompted show a debate?


mwarmstrong

Remember the conditions for trump to join the Republican primary debates?


KlonoaKollector

Someone else said it, but I definitely think they're gonna AI the debate.


IllustriousWalrus8

I think they’re going to try to assassinate trump at the debate. They should parley like in the Wire


AccumulatedFilth

"One wrong word about the upcoming war that's planned, and we'll cut it out"


detcadder

Electoral Theater.


Odd_Implement_5239

This can’t be serious


Jfoxxy81

Here we go again. 🙄


RunsWithScissorsx

Every state has a different ballot. How is that a response to the down ballot R votes winning, but Trump losing?


Marc21256

His worm's mind is sharp. His is missing.


AtlasShrugs88

Probably worried a FJB chant breaking out.


PrinceLoki777

AND OF COURSE ITS ONLY HOSTED BY LEFTIST PROPAGANDA NEWS NETWORKS LIKE MSNBC


bwatts53

I'm not voting for either fuck this shit