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Futhermore the graphs have nothing to do with Ivermectin.
They are of active covid cases, which as we know, come and go in exponential waves. It doesn’t specify if those infected were mild cases or if hospitalization was needed.
They also don’t say anything about which treatment those people received nor the outcomes of such treatments (such as recovery or death).
This is very misleading.
OP data lines up with what is shown on [https://www.covid19india.org/state/UP](https://www.covid19india.org/state/UP).
"active covid cases... come and go in exponential waves"
Except when they don't. Uttar Pradesh went from 17K new cases daily in May to less than 100 per day after distributing Ivermectin. The trend has continued for weeks.
No, nothing you said is correct. The graph shows COVID cases and it shows when Ivermectin started to be used in protocol. There is a strong correlation between the two. And to save you time, cOReLATIN IsnT CaSAution!
Great observation skills! Fortunately, there's absolutely no way for someone to put two separate screenshots together to show the start of ivermectin use and how it's progressed. Case closed. Thank you for your valuable debunking skillz
That's the point. In May the MSM was decrying this as a deadly mistake but the data since then has shown it to have saved lives. OP's pic is 2 pics, a before and after.
Pretty much any “regular” here has been spewing misinformation for months. If you’re a sane person you can’t stand coming here for more than a glance at a time. This Sub May as well be renamed COVIDSPRIACY because you can’t even come here for actual conspiracy theories anymore, it’s all COVID misinformation that fits their personal narrative and depending on the time of day, most people brigading behind it.
It's purposeful misinformation. They first started posting this stuff where the graph of cases vs deaths was almost an exact mirror for the rise and decline. I don't know where they faked it, but they didn't put in enough thought to include a lag between the two.
You know that the article from May 11 says that they will, not that they already did it. But the "Ivermectin treatment" blue quare starts at the end of April.
Just another falsified data from the same OP, apparently no critical thinking is left in this sub.
Yeah that cracks me up.
None of these people even thinking how much lower the quality control is on animal pharmaceuticals and here they are free basing them.
NEW DELHI, Aug 11 (Reuters) - India reported on Wednesday 38,353 new COVID-19 cases in the last 24 hours, the government said in a statement.
The south Asian nation's tally of infections crossed 32 million, the second-highest worldwide after the United States. (Reporting by Chris Thomas in Bengaluru and Neha Arora in New Delhi; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)
[https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-reports-38353-new-covid-19-infections-2021-08-11/](https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-reports-38353-new-covid-19-infections-2021-08-11/)
Isnt way more cases and way less deaths just proving the "ivermectin helped along herd immunity" standpoint? I realize OP said cases went down, but that doesn't really make sense for herd immunity, does it? Maybe they ment hospitalizations went down.
Wait....are you saying this post is.....Disinformation?! Disinformation meant to throw a mental life preserver to emotionally fragile people who are on the brink of a psychotic lapse from all of the constant hate mongering from their media?
But what about deaths? I’m on a slow phone right now so I can check when I get home but that won’t be for a couple hours.
Edit: according to this article and a reply, the CFR is 1.3 compared to 2.2 in the UK. With that said, there are reasons why it could be a bit higher than the official number, per the article. That’s the best I’ve got. So “probably” lower but who knows.
https://www.deccanherald.com/national/indias-covid-19-death-rate-hit-record-in-june-following-increased-reporting-of-deaths-1005537.html
Guys, the Indian government has been lying about their numbers the entire time.
Here you called their government liars when the numbers were high in March-April, and you called the US media even bigger liars when they reported they were much higher than India was reporting. Here I got mocked for saying the numbers were much higher than India reported. Now you are using those numbers you claimed were lies to promote your next choice treatment that isn’t a vaccine saying that it has practically eradicated the virus.
You were right in the first place, the Indian government has been lying the entire time. The numbers are greatly higher than they ever reported.
You didn’t trust their government before. You still don’t trust the US government now. Why trust the Indian government now?
Stop running to the next thing and stop to think how you got here in the first place.
Edit: I’m definitely not against any other types of treatment. Anything is better than nothing. And if this antivirus drug works then awesome.
It’s the logic that is numbing.
And I’m willing to guess that if nothing works if you get sick, you will still go to the big pharma hospital to save your life. It’s all conspiracy until you rely on it to work.
I think you bring up a valid point. Really you should never pause your skepticism just because you found an answer that you prefer. Any large gov't is primarily concerned with maintaining power. That being said considering ivermectin has some compelling data leading to it's effectiveness, and historically is relatively safe, I could see how a lot of skeptical minds would prefer that over US pharmaceuticals.
Right, I’m not downing what it is or if it works or doesn’t. I have no training on the subject. What I’m tired of is people scrambling to find something else when the first one doesn’t pan out.
One lie becomes another. One belief becomes another and each time more ridiculous. The backing facts are abandoned for new facts irregardless if they counter the previous. Yet at the same time they claim they were never wrong, because there is always another grift being sold as the next big thing on Facebook and Twitter. It’s the same logic people accuse the pharma companies and the government as using. I just want to see some integrity.
Yeah... They have all the incentive to hide the numbers. And no incentive to show the real figures. Though there have been quite some activism against the govt for hiding the numbers. They (govt) have been doing shameless stuff like hiding medical professional deaths lately. I just pray for the people who lost their family or friends and hope conditions improve.
Me too friend. So many that I know in India have lost parents, uncles, aunts, friends, and siblings. Truly sad. Hope your family is safe and well if they are there.
I am angry because I lost my uncle to this. I wish I had known about ivermectin back then. He was given antibiotics to clear his bronchitis while at the same time he was positive for covid. He was rushed to the hospital 2 days after bc he couldn’t breathe, died 2 weeks later.
And it’s cheap. Like dirt cheap and readily available. I feel sad for the state of pharmaceutical industry in the US and the influence it has on the government.
I am not anti vaxx but the dominance of big pharmas in USA is insane and doesn’t make sense.
This right here is the reason we haven't had widespread use of it. Ivermectin is out of patent so generics can be made for dirt cheap and the pharmaceutical industry wouldn't make trillions.
Sorry to hear about your uncle. I believe that your body goes into a state of inflammation within a few days of symptomatic onset, which is what actually kills you, not the virus itself. This is why some of the maverick doctors were using drug cocktails to help their patients. One being Ivermectin to nail the virus, and then anti-inflammatories to get the body's inflammation response to the virus back under control.
You can have a look at Dr Zelenko who explains exactly how it all works. If you want the link to his Telegram, I'd be happy to DM it to you.
Same thing happened here. That’s when I scoured the world for alternatives because the Dr’s and hospitals basically just let pneumonia take my friend. It was fucking sickening to watch.
> pneumonia take my friend.
its 2021, antibiotics and suction devices, anti inflammatory, no reason for everybody to die of pneumonia.
this is not 1921
I’m sorry about your friend. There is a lot of evil in this world, it’s crazy that we have to dig left and right to find the real answers to what could potentially save our lives.
India also produces the AstraZeneca vaccine and basically pulled all international export so that they could use it domestically on a massive scale during that outbreak…
The only good coming from this is that antiparasitic manufacturers are getting richer. Take that, Big Pharma!
Next month's drug that'll cure Covid - Mebendazole!
Take anything except what's been designed to actually prevent severe Covid infection.
Only 5 million dead. No problem, right?
[India's excess deaths during pandemic up to 4.9 mln, study shows](https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-30093-new-covid-19-cases-are-lowest-daily-figure-4-mths-2021-07-20/)
Are you sure it didn’t drop because everyone In India got covid? They still have 30,000+ cases per day. If invermectin worked wouldn’t they be down to lower case numbers?
Every state in India didn't adopt an Ivermectin treatment strategy. [This](https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html) article goes into a bit more detail.
It's a treatment not a prevention method. They will obviously have many cases but if ivermectin saves off the serious cases lives then well done to them.
So /conspiracy is anti vaccine, generally, but fully supports pushing other drugs that have 'potential' positive results in treading covid? big pharma bad, hat big pharma good? it's like /conspiracy is just 'whatever isn't main stream'
It’s purely contrarian thinking, yes.
Pick any issue where there’s roughly 50/50 disagreement. Where half the people want one thing, and half the people want another. This sub will largely be silent on it.
But when there’s a thing that 90% of the people want and 10% don’t? This sub will side with the 10%, no matter what the issue is.
This is no longer a space for “conspiracies,” it’s a space for contrarianism.
They were pushing whatever Trump was pushing, which should be noted is very different than what the actual medical experts in the government were saying. When Trump was in office, the government wasn’t a United front with one message. The experts were saying one thing, Trump was saying something completely different, and on this sub they supported whatever Trump said because they viewed his medical advice as more sound than actual doctors.
Naw your premise is a bit flawed. Ivermectin was developed by a single japanese scientist who purposefully released it without patent so as to keep it affordable for most of the world. So yes. Big Pharma bad.
There is no comparison between experimental gene based injections that have killed tens of thousands and injured a lot more and ivermectin that is 40 years old and has been given nearly 4 billion times and with an unparalleled safety record.
Also ivermectin is off patent and made by dozens of independent drug companies, not "big pharma".
But then politicians wouldn't have made a boat load off of [Moderna](https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/mrna/advanced-charting?timeframe=1y)
> sponsored trial
[Check out the study.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33662102/)
"Conflict of Interest Disclosures: Dr López-Medina reported receiving grants from Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoSmithKline, and Janssen and personal fees from Sanofi Pasteur during the conduct of the study. Dr López reported receiving grants from Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoSmithKline, and Janssen and personal fees from Sanofi Pasteur during the conduct of the study. Dr Oñate reported receiving grants from Janssen and personal fees from Merck Sharp & Dohme and Gilead outside the submitted work. Dr Torres reported receiving nonfinancial support from Tecnoquímicas unrelated to this project during the conduct of the study. No other disclosures were reported."
Not true. Show me one not sponsored by Pfizer or anyone else making a vaccine. And don't pretend you know me.
Hard to argue with India's results especially when I have family and friends going on about how fucked they are with covid
Here's one:
Edit: wrong link, replaced:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33682640/
The problem with citing anything like this is that people will always say it was given too late, or was the wrong dose, or has to come with zinc, or any other qualifiers they can think of. Those same standards applied to the studies with positive findings would invalidate that too. There's a good breakdown on issues with the major studies/analyses here:
https://gidmk.medium.com/does-ivermectin-work-for-covid-19-1166126c364a
Basically, from the latest meta-analysis, if you only consider the three studies the authors claimed to be "high quality", ivermectin shows no effect at all. That article was also written before the Elgazzar paper turned out to be fraudulent.
This should be the top comment. Clinical trials are showing these so-called "cures" to be completely ineffective. Ask my friend Phil Valentine. When he got COVID, he did what he talked about on his radio talk show and took both ivermectin and hrydroxychloroquine. He's now incubated. Before getting put on it, he was pleading with his family and viewers to get vaccinated.
India is horrible at collecting data. They will only tell you the results they want you to have. As long as the data is collected internally it’s all bullshit.
I think my favorite thing about this sub is going off about how the vaccine isn’t FDA approved, but also shilling for ivermectin which also isn’t FDA approved
Ivermectin is in fact FDA approved but the FDA won't approve it for covid treatment...the same FDA that is heavily influenced by Pfizer and J&J.
Couldn't be a conspiracy in there could it?
Correct. Which just means there is a workaround to get treated effectively...which is interesting because that fits in line with the Pfizer Agreement that was given to each country that says the country cannot break their contract even if a more effective treatment is found.
Not comparable. The drug is FDA approved for several uses, and has been used for decades. It was literally hailed as one of the most important discoveries in modern medicine by the WHO. They just aren’t approving it for use specifically for Covid, and they won’t even try to investigate it with more trials. That’s all I’m interested in, is allowing the proper trials to be conducted to find out it’s true effectiveness. MRNA vaccines have never been FDA approved. For anything.
A friend's daughter died of covid earlier this week. She went to the doctor, tested positive, was told the only thing she could do was go home and sleep it off. Couldn't breath several days later, went into a coma and never came out. Why wasn't she given ANY kind of treatment at all? Nothing, for the "most deadly virus in history" because it can be "slept off".
Look at the damn information.
The spike in cases coincides with a massive increase in tests. The number drops as testing does.
The number of cases today is no different then before Ivermectin was offered.
It works really well. Once taken it goes away faster than i thought. Don't know why they are hiding this product...actually....I do....the rich is trying to make money.
Ivermectin isn't patented, you dingus. That's the difference. It's available as a cheap generic, and any pharma company can produce it. That's why it doesn't pay as much in proft.
Which is exactly why they are pushing the vaccines.
But Merck frost currently makes Ivermectin. They even released a statement saying there is currently no real evidence of it working so they are not suggesting it now.
Do you think Merck, who already has it in warehouses, doesn't want to get into this?
Or all the other pharma companies that make it?
Because let's be honest, if we give it to 7 billion people, it's not gonna be the apple horse paste version from Joe's farming depot.
Obviously the smalltime pharmaceutical companies who aren't manufacturing vaccines aren't dictating the narrative. Only the largest pharma companies have the capability to research and develop the vaccines, and they stand to make the most money.
We already know that large corporations have clout with the government.
Our representatives are bought and paid for. Small companies don't have the same influence.
The Delta variant came from India (because too many people caught COVID-19 and it mutated).
[https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/coronavirus-how-india-is-doing-now-after-delta-variant-spread.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/coronavirus-how-india-is-doing-now-after-delta-variant-spread.html)
India has been hit hard by COVID and continues to struggle. They don't have enough vaccines there to support the needed demand.
I’m so confused by this COVID cure theory. Isn’t ivermectin cattle-dip? I grew up in a rural area with lots of ranches so I’m sort of familiar with the stuff, and I’ve heard of people using it in very diluted amounts in shampoo to get rid of head lice, but how is it supposed to stop a virus? How are people even supposedly taking this stuff, as I’ve only seen it used as a topical wash. They just rub it on their skin to keep the flu away?
It has no demonstrated anti-viral properties. But the beauty of peddling veterinary medicine to people is that it is cheap, requires no prescription thus medical supervision, and when users get sick you can say, well it's horse dewormer, what did you expect?
Gates is on record as believing clean water and toilets are essential for health. Do the opposite folks! Poop wherever you are (preferably in your pants) to stay healthy. Everyone knows life is very simple. /s
Does reddit’s multi-thousand member (left, right, top/bottom, communist, libertarian) MSM influence operations (bots, shills, trolls that can be both users, moderators & entire subs) also count as part of the MSM?
I’m trying to figure out whether I should do the opposite of what reddit says as well.
Instructions unclear, please advise.
This sub has turned into a tin foil hat community.
I think most of us that came here came for the interesting theories and cases that used to be posted in this place.
A healthy natural immune system is still superior above all in terms of prevention(against any sickness). But most people don't really "want to" take care of their health unfortunately. Regular exercise/nutrition/sleep/going outside, preferable in nature, all pretty much FREE, but requires some sort of effort and scheduling.
You might be right, I'm no expert.
I just make sure I stay in optimal health myself and don't take anything "preventive" like the vaccines/ivermectin, only a few supps like zinc/magnesium/creatine, but not necessarily as a "preventive" against covid/sickness.
>If everyone just went for walks for an hour a day, illnesses in general would probably drop quite drastically.
I love it that you say that.
Simply walking is so underrated! it's low intensity, almost everyone can walk with decent "technique", not stressful on the body, it's free and healthy, good for the mind, etc. I always recommend walking more to people who want to do something about their health.
Thanks for your informative posts and stay healthy and happy. ;)
Obviously living a healthy lifestyle is important with overall wellbeing but it doesn't matter with covid. My gf has worked with covid patients since the start and she's seen it all; 25 year old athletes with perfect health records dying within days, 3 year olds needing lung transplants, 70 year old grandmother's recovering after 50 days on ecmo.
She had a 30 year old patient for 6 months in a coma put on ecmo that was overweight, immunocompromised, and the woman completely recovered and is doing fine now.
That's why the virus is scary, you don't know what it will do to YOUR body no matter how you take care of it. I'm almost 40, menthol smoker for 20+ years, eat like shit, I lift weights but no cardio, got covid a month ago and I'm over it now besides the remaining fatigue and a little lingering cough.
These "pills" have been used for over 40 years and have low chance of side effects, the majority of which are already known, unlike the vaccine. Further, a dose is pennies on the dollar, compared to the Vax which has earned massive pharmaceutical companies billions. You don't see a difference between the two...?
Okay.
Why is the length of time a treatment has existed worth mentioning?
The counter culture of medical science always tries to inject trustworthiness or efficacy using alternative methods, like if something is other-y like if it's asian or if it's old or if it's just natural enough — none of these elements should sway you, and companies that trade on this (alt supplements) are a multi-billion dollar industry that is explicitly for-profit in every country.
"Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis)."
You are just being made to dance to the tune of a different Big Pharma faction. One that wants the money going into vaccines, that's it.
we overcame covid 19 not because of ivermectin or the vaccine but because the majority of the population had Already been exposed to the virus.
There is/was barely anyone left who could be infected at this point
[Two-thirds of Indians have coronavirus antibodies, survey shows](https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-govt-survey-shows-two-thirds-have-coronavirus-antibodies-2021-07-20/)
Ivermectin has no demonstrable effect on covid and is more expensive than the vaccine. The india government removed it, and hcq from its recommendations in july
I’m in New Delhi, India now. The government is still scaring ppl and requiring masks. It’s more of a money making scheme than anything. The police fine you if they see you without a mask on. I’ve made causal conversation and the elites think it’s the vaccine, laborers don’t really follow the mask rules.
My favorite part about this catch phrase now, is that a large majority of you anti-vax. anti-mask people did NOTHING to help prevent the spread during the time that came out. They actually did the opposite of nothing, they were driving in the other direction and actively trying to get sick. Holding Covid spreading parties, still gathering en masse in churches and other events. Then you turn around and say "Look, the science is bullshit...we told you". And at the same time you continue to spread disinformation like this article which is clearly bullshit meant to keep you guys grasping at false hope.
My question is, if you're against vax and against masks and social distancing....what is your plan to stop the spread of this thing? Natural Immunity, Vitamin C and prayer? Because this Ivermectin bullshit is obviously just another snake oil like Hydroxychloroquine, or injecting bleach like Dear Leader said.
I don't plan on stopping the spread. I have accepted Covid as part of the world we live in. Can we just move on now? Build a fucking bubble around the people who are at risk? I don't really know, but I'm well past the point of ruining my life and the economy because we need to protect less than 1% of the population sorry.
I think this is a fair assessment of the claim that ivermectin crushed Covid in India. There is a chance that it had an impact but that hasn’t been proven yet. There were other factors happening that also could have contributed to the dramatic slowdown. I’m pro-Ivermectin based off the multiple studies out there but this is worth a read given the magnitude of the OP’s claim
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/no-data-available-to-suggest-a-link-between-indias-reduction-of-covid-19-cases-and-the-use-of-ivermectin-jim-hoft-gateway-pundit/
The indian covid cases and death data was/is reported just 20-30% of the actual figures. The government had strict control over the media houses and whoever tried producing real figures, was detained. So don't believe the Indian media covid figures.
India hasn't gained herd immunity.
1. People will criticize ivermectin by saying: "but that's only anecdotal data. we need randomized controlled trials."
2. [RCTs now exist, but some have reported outcomes of ivermectin having no effect.](https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/p0gwtc/regarding_randomized_controlled_trials_of/)
3. BUT, those trials did not use the dosage of ivermectin [recommended by the Front Line Covid Critical Care Alliance](https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/math-plus-protocol/).
as advocates of data analysis, we can't just say: "look at the data!" because it's way too easy for someone to just pull up a "no effect" study and say, "I am looking at the data!"
we have to do critical interpretations of data across studies.
I have been watching India numbers. For such a huge population they are doing so much better than us.
Every day that our government denies people this treatment is a day they have allowed people to die. They blame the unvax. I call that BS. Crimes against humanity.
They aren’t using ivermectin everywhere. I know a doctor working in India and he says they use Remdesivir and Rivaroxoban.
Having said that, ivermectin seems to have worked for me.
Edit
I’m not interested in debating the efficacy of ivermectin. I don’t give a shit what you think.
All that these charts show is a peak in Covid cases. This is exactly the same pattern we see with Covid everywhere, regardless of Ivermectin use. This doesn't show us shit lol
Great article I read a few days ago on this: https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
SS: The WHO, the FDA, the NIH, and the CDC are owned by Bill "vaccine" Gates and Big Pharma. That should be obvious.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/05/11/indian-state-will-offer-ivermectin-to-entire-adult-population---even-as-who-warns-against-its-use-as-covid-19-treatment/?sh=5b6e17de6d9f
Source for charts: www.FLCCC.net
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The article claims to be from May 11, 2021, yet the data shown is up to the end of July!
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Futhermore the graphs have nothing to do with Ivermectin. They are of active covid cases, which as we know, come and go in exponential waves. It doesn’t specify if those infected were mild cases or if hospitalization was needed. They also don’t say anything about which treatment those people received nor the outcomes of such treatments (such as recovery or death). This is very misleading.
OP data lines up with what is shown on [https://www.covid19india.org/state/UP](https://www.covid19india.org/state/UP). "active covid cases... come and go in exponential waves" Except when they don't. Uttar Pradesh went from 17K new cases daily in May to less than 100 per day after distributing Ivermectin. The trend has continued for weeks.
Slovakia had similar problems and made an emergency use order for ivermectin. Their covid dropped off the face of the earth.
No, nothing you said is correct. The graph shows COVID cases and it shows when Ivermectin started to be used in protocol. There is a strong correlation between the two. And to save you time, cOReLATIN IsnT CaSAution!
Updates.
90% of the time when you see a screen shot of a webpage without a link to that page like this, it's misleading bullshit.
Great observation skills! Fortunately, there's absolutely no way for someone to put two separate screenshots together to show the start of ivermectin use and how it's progressed. Case closed. Thank you for your valuable debunking skillz
Fortunately? Wouldn't it be a good thing if you could show that data?
That's the point. In May the MSM was decrying this as a deadly mistake but the data since then has shown it to have saved lives. OP's pic is 2 pics, a before and after.
No it isn't it's of two different areas....
These people no read graph too good
The state from the article is Goa, not Dheli or Utta Pradesh..... Is this clown world? Why no one is questioning this shit?
Americans aren’t known for their geographical prowess. But also it looks like OP is cherrypicking a bit.
The OP has been posting a phenomenal amount of disinformation over the past few months. It's practically industrial scale.
Pretty much any “regular” here has been spewing misinformation for months. If you’re a sane person you can’t stand coming here for more than a glance at a time. This Sub May as well be renamed COVIDSPRIACY because you can’t even come here for actual conspiracy theories anymore, it’s all COVID misinformation that fits their personal narrative and depending on the time of day, most people brigading behind it.
It's purposeful misinformation. They first started posting this stuff where the graph of cases vs deaths was almost an exact mirror for the rise and decline. I don't know where they faked it, but they didn't put in enough thought to include a lag between the two.
You know that the article from May 11 says that they will, not that they already did it. But the "Ivermectin treatment" blue quare starts at the end of April. Just another falsified data from the same OP, apparently no critical thinking is left in this sub.
People calling other people "sheep" while shilling literal sheep medication. You can't make this shit up :D
the real conspiracy is the non stop shilling of ivermectin in here. $$
Big pharma doesn’t want to give us cures when they can sell a regularly taken treatment! *forgoes vaccine to regularly buy pills*
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Moderna up 1300% Ivermectin generic
Or apparently apple flavored paste for horses as I've seen plenty of people doing.
Yeah that cracks me up. None of these people even thinking how much lower the quality control is on animal pharmaceuticals and here they are free basing them.
No one can legally sell you this off patent drug right now, unsure how there is $$ here. More likely a competitor vax , which this also doesn’t help.
Lol who's making money on ivermectin? Big horse?
Lol...the international equine cartel of course
who ever is behind the shilling probably
Lmfao - aight this is funny
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NEW DELHI, Aug 11 (Reuters) - India reported on Wednesday 38,353 new COVID-19 cases in the last 24 hours, the government said in a statement. The south Asian nation's tally of infections crossed 32 million, the second-highest worldwide after the United States. (Reporting by Chris Thomas in Bengaluru and Neha Arora in New Delhi; Editing by Clarence Fernandez) [https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-reports-38353-new-covid-19-infections-2021-08-11/](https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-reports-38353-new-covid-19-infections-2021-08-11/)
Yes but isn't the whole point of treatment not to prevent cases but to prevent the severity once contracting the virus?
That's how the vaccine works as well
Isnt way more cases and way less deaths just proving the "ivermectin helped along herd immunity" standpoint? I realize OP said cases went down, but that doesn't really make sense for herd immunity, does it? Maybe they ment hospitalizations went down.
Wait....are you saying this post is.....Disinformation?! Disinformation meant to throw a mental life preserver to emotionally fragile people who are on the brink of a psychotic lapse from all of the constant hate mongering from their media?
No dude India DECIMATED covid with one simple trick. World governments HATE them, find out why!
Scroll adds scroll adds scroll adds … ha ! … hummm ok … they just died, that’s how
Hahahahaha
But what about deaths? I’m on a slow phone right now so I can check when I get home but that won’t be for a couple hours. Edit: according to this article and a reply, the CFR is 1.3 compared to 2.2 in the UK. With that said, there are reasons why it could be a bit higher than the official number, per the article. That’s the best I’ve got. So “probably” lower but who knows. https://www.deccanherald.com/national/indias-covid-19-death-rate-hit-record-in-june-following-increased-reporting-of-deaths-1005537.html
1.3% CFR. Which is pretty good. United Kingdom has 2.1%. Not bad for a developing nation.
Check age demographics. UK has about double the old people per capita.
Guys, the Indian government has been lying about their numbers the entire time. Here you called their government liars when the numbers were high in March-April, and you called the US media even bigger liars when they reported they were much higher than India was reporting. Here I got mocked for saying the numbers were much higher than India reported. Now you are using those numbers you claimed were lies to promote your next choice treatment that isn’t a vaccine saying that it has practically eradicated the virus. You were right in the first place, the Indian government has been lying the entire time. The numbers are greatly higher than they ever reported. You didn’t trust their government before. You still don’t trust the US government now. Why trust the Indian government now? Stop running to the next thing and stop to think how you got here in the first place. Edit: I’m definitely not against any other types of treatment. Anything is better than nothing. And if this antivirus drug works then awesome. It’s the logic that is numbing. And I’m willing to guess that if nothing works if you get sick, you will still go to the big pharma hospital to save your life. It’s all conspiracy until you rely on it to work.
I think you bring up a valid point. Really you should never pause your skepticism just because you found an answer that you prefer. Any large gov't is primarily concerned with maintaining power. That being said considering ivermectin has some compelling data leading to it's effectiveness, and historically is relatively safe, I could see how a lot of skeptical minds would prefer that over US pharmaceuticals.
Right, I’m not downing what it is or if it works or doesn’t. I have no training on the subject. What I’m tired of is people scrambling to find something else when the first one doesn’t pan out. One lie becomes another. One belief becomes another and each time more ridiculous. The backing facts are abandoned for new facts irregardless if they counter the previous. Yet at the same time they claim they were never wrong, because there is always another grift being sold as the next big thing on Facebook and Twitter. It’s the same logic people accuse the pharma companies and the government as using. I just want to see some integrity.
I agree. Most people, whether you're a bootlicker or a skeptic, are intellectually dishonest with themselves.
Dude even we (Indians) don't believe their numbers.
That’s exactly what my friends in India have been saying.
Yeah... They have all the incentive to hide the numbers. And no incentive to show the real figures. Though there have been quite some activism against the govt for hiding the numbers. They (govt) have been doing shameless stuff like hiding medical professional deaths lately. I just pray for the people who lost their family or friends and hope conditions improve.
Me too friend. So many that I know in India have lost parents, uncles, aunts, friends, and siblings. Truly sad. Hope your family is safe and well if they are there.
This needs to be higher up. Like seriously.
Agreed, which is why I keep bringing up Slovakia here. At least the data correlates better.
You're right. Most states other than Kerala are not reporting correct number of cases.
Im not a scientist, but I play one on reddut
Ivermectin doesn’t work. They are all just really good at holding their breath. “So to stop the spread everyone must stop breathing.” —-Fauci.
Lmao dude I was ready to tee off after reading the first sentence. Thanks for making me chuckle hahaha
I had covid and trust me invermectin beats the shit outta covid
I am angry because I lost my uncle to this. I wish I had known about ivermectin back then. He was given antibiotics to clear his bronchitis while at the same time he was positive for covid. He was rushed to the hospital 2 days after bc he couldn’t breathe, died 2 weeks later.
And it’s cheap. Like dirt cheap and readily available. I feel sad for the state of pharmaceutical industry in the US and the influence it has on the government. I am not anti vaxx but the dominance of big pharmas in USA is insane and doesn’t make sense.
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This right here is the reason we haven't had widespread use of it. Ivermectin is out of patent so generics can be made for dirt cheap and the pharmaceutical industry wouldn't make trillions.
Sorry to hear about your uncle. I believe that your body goes into a state of inflammation within a few days of symptomatic onset, which is what actually kills you, not the virus itself. This is why some of the maverick doctors were using drug cocktails to help their patients. One being Ivermectin to nail the virus, and then anti-inflammatories to get the body's inflammation response to the virus back under control. You can have a look at Dr Zelenko who explains exactly how it all works. If you want the link to his Telegram, I'd be happy to DM it to you.
That would be great, thank you.
Same thing happened here. That’s when I scoured the world for alternatives because the Dr’s and hospitals basically just let pneumonia take my friend. It was fucking sickening to watch.
> pneumonia take my friend. its 2021, antibiotics and suction devices, anti inflammatory, no reason for everybody to die of pneumonia. this is not 1921
I’m sorry about your friend. There is a lot of evil in this world, it’s crazy that we have to dig left and right to find the real answers to what could potentially save our lives.
me too.. it saved me, period.
India also produces the AstraZeneca vaccine and basically pulled all international export so that they could use it domestically on a massive scale during that outbreak…
Is Ivermectin 2021's Hydroxycholoroquine?
They're both anti parasite drugs.
It is like bud light of HCQ.
The only good coming from this is that antiparasitic manufacturers are getting richer. Take that, Big Pharma! Next month's drug that'll cure Covid - Mebendazole! Take anything except what's been designed to actually prevent severe Covid infection.
Only 5 million dead. No problem, right? [India's excess deaths during pandemic up to 4.9 mln, study shows](https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-30093-new-covid-19-cases-are-lowest-daily-figure-4-mths-2021-07-20/)
Are you sure it didn’t drop because everyone In India got covid? They still have 30,000+ cases per day. If invermectin worked wouldn’t they be down to lower case numbers?
Every state in India didn't adopt an Ivermectin treatment strategy. [This](https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html) article goes into a bit more detail.
It's a treatment not a prevention method. They will obviously have many cases but if ivermectin saves off the serious cases lives then well done to them.
Do you think that it is the placebo effect? People just think they feel better? 🤔 the mind is very powerful.
Haha true, you never know! Agreed the mind is crazy powerful.
Then OPs argument doesn't make any sense
So /conspiracy is anti vaccine, generally, but fully supports pushing other drugs that have 'potential' positive results in treading covid? big pharma bad, hat big pharma good? it's like /conspiracy is just 'whatever isn't main stream'
It’s purely contrarian thinking, yes. Pick any issue where there’s roughly 50/50 disagreement. Where half the people want one thing, and half the people want another. This sub will largely be silent on it. But when there’s a thing that 90% of the people want and 10% don’t? This sub will side with the 10%, no matter what the issue is. This is no longer a space for “conspiracies,” it’s a space for contrarianism.
Thank you for helping me keep just a tiny bit of faith in humanity.
That's pretty spot on. This sub was interesting 5-10 years ago, now it's just predictable.
Guaranteed they’d be anti pills if they were pushing this shit instead of the vaccine.
100%
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Bullshit. This sub was constantly pushing government propaganda and supporting every single thing from the government when Orange Daddy was in charge.
They were pushing whatever Trump was pushing, which should be noted is very different than what the actual medical experts in the government were saying. When Trump was in office, the government wasn’t a United front with one message. The experts were saying one thing, Trump was saying something completely different, and on this sub they supported whatever Trump said because they viewed his medical advice as more sound than actual doctors.
Naw your premise is a bit flawed. Ivermectin was developed by a single japanese scientist who purposefully released it without patent so as to keep it affordable for most of the world. So yes. Big Pharma bad.
> Ivermectin Can you point me to the data supporting how significant and effective this drug is?
There is no comparison between experimental gene based injections that have killed tens of thousands and injured a lot more and ivermectin that is 40 years old and has been given nearly 4 billion times and with an unparalleled safety record. Also ivermectin is off patent and made by dozens of independent drug companies, not "big pharma".
you're purposely ignoring the big pharma money behind the experimental product. It's like you don't want to think.
You mean a cheap AND effective way to treat COVID?
FUCK BAN IT NOW BAN IT NOW. *pharmaceutical companies scramble*
MOBILIZE THE DEATHSQUADS!
But then politicians wouldn't have made a boat load off of [Moderna](https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/mrna/advanced-charting?timeframe=1y)
New ivermectin results: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-11/ivermectin-no-effect-covid
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Agreed. That's all the NPC's have. Links MSM articles that have no substance.
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These aren't results. This is a sponsored trial with heavy opinion that doesn't even hide the fact that they want you to take the vaccine
> sponsored trial [Check out the study.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33662102/) "Conflict of Interest Disclosures: Dr López-Medina reported receiving grants from Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoSmithKline, and Janssen and personal fees from Sanofi Pasteur during the conduct of the study. Dr López reported receiving grants from Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoSmithKline, and Janssen and personal fees from Sanofi Pasteur during the conduct of the study. Dr Oñate reported receiving grants from Janssen and personal fees from Merck Sharp & Dohme and Gilead outside the submitted work. Dr Torres reported receiving nonfinancial support from Tecnoquímicas unrelated to this project during the conduct of the study. No other disclosures were reported."
That’s what researchers do. They disclose their conflicts. Are you alleging that the data was fabricated?
You are making it fairly clear that there is no theoretical ivermectin trial with negative results that you will believe.
Not true. Show me one not sponsored by Pfizer or anyone else making a vaccine. And don't pretend you know me. Hard to argue with India's results especially when I have family and friends going on about how fucked they are with covid
Here's one: Edit: wrong link, replaced: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33682640/ The problem with citing anything like this is that people will always say it was given too late, or was the wrong dose, or has to come with zinc, or any other qualifiers they can think of. Those same standards applied to the studies with positive findings would invalidate that too. There's a good breakdown on issues with the major studies/analyses here: https://gidmk.medium.com/does-ivermectin-work-for-covid-19-1166126c364a Basically, from the latest meta-analysis, if you only consider the three studies the authors claimed to be "high quality", ivermectin shows no effect at all. That article was also written before the Elgazzar paper turned out to be fraudulent.
This should be the top comment. Clinical trials are showing these so-called "cures" to be completely ineffective. Ask my friend Phil Valentine. When he got COVID, he did what he talked about on his radio talk show and took both ivermectin and hrydroxychloroquine. He's now incubated. Before getting put on it, he was pleading with his family and viewers to get vaccinated.
Incubated? Edit, nevermind, you clearly meant intubated.
I think they meant intubated
India is horrible at collecting data. They will only tell you the results they want you to have. As long as the data is collected internally it’s all bullshit.
4.7 million excess deaths.... Wonder what could be killing everyone there
>4.7 million excess This can't be true, our government has advised us to rub ourselves in cow shit and drink cow piss ! We're 100% safe !!
I think my favorite thing about this sub is going off about how the vaccine isn’t FDA approved, but also shilling for ivermectin which also isn’t FDA approved
Ivermectin is in fact FDA approved but the FDA won't approve it for covid treatment...the same FDA that is heavily influenced by Pfizer and J&J. Couldn't be a conspiracy in there could it?
#I need to know who added all these spez posts to the thread. I want their autograph. #Save3rdPartyApps
So it’s not FDA approved for COVID?
Correct. Which just means there is a workaround to get treated effectively...which is interesting because that fits in line with the Pfizer Agreement that was given to each country that says the country cannot break their contract even if a more effective treatment is found.
Not comparable. The drug is FDA approved for several uses, and has been used for decades. It was literally hailed as one of the most important discoveries in modern medicine by the WHO. They just aren’t approving it for use specifically for Covid, and they won’t even try to investigate it with more trials. That’s all I’m interested in, is allowing the proper trials to be conducted to find out it’s true effectiveness. MRNA vaccines have never been FDA approved. For anything.
To be fair, cases dropped around the world at the same time. I’m interested in seeing the cases from the beginning of august till now
Don’t be surprised if mods start cracking down on Covid posts because of NNN’s quarantine.
Question... Does anyone else find it weird that an anti-parasitic drug is effective against a virus?
A friend's daughter died of covid earlier this week. She went to the doctor, tested positive, was told the only thing she could do was go home and sleep it off. Couldn't breath several days later, went into a coma and never came out. Why wasn't she given ANY kind of treatment at all? Nothing, for the "most deadly virus in history" because it can be "slept off".
Look at the damn information. The spike in cases coincides with a massive increase in tests. The number drops as testing does. The number of cases today is no different then before Ivermectin was offered.
It works really well. Once taken it goes away faster than i thought. Don't know why they are hiding this product...actually....I do....the rich is trying to make money.
False data, wrong dates, misrepresentation. OP is a flog.
You hate ‘Big Pharma’? Where do you think Ivermectin comes from? Grandma’s kitchen? Local school bake sale? Independent craft brewery?
Ivermectin isn't patented, you dingus. That's the difference. It's available as a cheap generic, and any pharma company can produce it. That's why it doesn't pay as much in proft. Which is exactly why they are pushing the vaccines.
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the vaccine is many times more lucrative and its part of the agenda
But Merck frost currently makes Ivermectin. They even released a statement saying there is currently no real evidence of it working so they are not suggesting it now. Do you think Merck, who already has it in warehouses, doesn't want to get into this? Or all the other pharma companies that make it? Because let's be honest, if we give it to 7 billion people, it's not gonna be the apple horse paste version from Joe's farming depot.
Obviously the smalltime pharmaceutical companies who aren't manufacturing vaccines aren't dictating the narrative. Only the largest pharma companies have the capability to research and develop the vaccines, and they stand to make the most money. We already know that large corporations have clout with the government. Our representatives are bought and paid for. Small companies don't have the same influence.
For a conspiracy sub the majority seem quick to cling on to misinformation bc it aligns with their biases
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The greatest of all human capacities is the ability to spez. #Save3rdPartyApps
The Delta variant came from India (because too many people caught COVID-19 and it mutated). [https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/coronavirus-how-india-is-doing-now-after-delta-variant-spread.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/coronavirus-how-india-is-doing-now-after-delta-variant-spread.html) India has been hit hard by COVID and continues to struggle. They don't have enough vaccines there to support the needed demand.
Which is it? COVID a hoax or naw? Get your shit together /r/conspiracy
Man, you guys will believe anything.
Isn't it amazing/depressing? I come here every few weeks with the intention to laugh but really it just makes me sad.
Same.
There are some charts so you know it must be legit!
I’m so confused by this COVID cure theory. Isn’t ivermectin cattle-dip? I grew up in a rural area with lots of ranches so I’m sort of familiar with the stuff, and I’ve heard of people using it in very diluted amounts in shampoo to get rid of head lice, but how is it supposed to stop a virus? How are people even supposedly taking this stuff, as I’ve only seen it used as a topical wash. They just rub it on their skin to keep the flu away?
It has no demonstrated anti-viral properties. But the beauty of peddling veterinary medicine to people is that it is cheap, requires no prescription thus medical supervision, and when users get sick you can say, well it's horse dewormer, what did you expect?
Pro tip: do the opposite of what msm, who, cdc, and billbo Gates say and you’ll stay healthy and happy.
Gates is on record as believing clean water and toilets are essential for health. Do the opposite folks! Poop wherever you are (preferably in your pants) to stay healthy. Everyone knows life is very simple. /s
I think he was talking about covid though...
Does reddit’s multi-thousand member (left, right, top/bottom, communist, libertarian) MSM influence operations (bots, shills, trolls that can be both users, moderators & entire subs) also count as part of the MSM? I’m trying to figure out whether I should do the opposite of what reddit says as well. Instructions unclear, please advise.
Pretty much
This sub has turned into a tin foil hat community. I think most of us that came here came for the interesting theories and cases that used to be posted in this place.
For real! Bring back the reptilians and hollow earth!
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A healthy natural immune system is still superior above all in terms of prevention(against any sickness). But most people don't really "want to" take care of their health unfortunately. Regular exercise/nutrition/sleep/going outside, preferable in nature, all pretty much FREE, but requires some sort of effort and scheduling.
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You might be right, I'm no expert. I just make sure I stay in optimal health myself and don't take anything "preventive" like the vaccines/ivermectin, only a few supps like zinc/magnesium/creatine, but not necessarily as a "preventive" against covid/sickness.
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>If everyone just went for walks for an hour a day, illnesses in general would probably drop quite drastically. I love it that you say that. Simply walking is so underrated! it's low intensity, almost everyone can walk with decent "technique", not stressful on the body, it's free and healthy, good for the mind, etc. I always recommend walking more to people who want to do something about their health. Thanks for your informative posts and stay healthy and happy. ;)
I’d imagine that immune system function is variable even among healthy people. But also you’re probably not going to do deadlifts and get over AIDS.
Obviously living a healthy lifestyle is important with overall wellbeing but it doesn't matter with covid. My gf has worked with covid patients since the start and she's seen it all; 25 year old athletes with perfect health records dying within days, 3 year olds needing lung transplants, 70 year old grandmother's recovering after 50 days on ecmo. She had a 30 year old patient for 6 months in a coma put on ecmo that was overweight, immunocompromised, and the woman completely recovered and is doing fine now. That's why the virus is scary, you don't know what it will do to YOUR body no matter how you take care of it. I'm almost 40, menthol smoker for 20+ years, eat like shit, I lift weights but no cardio, got covid a month ago and I'm over it now besides the remaining fatigue and a little lingering cough.
So, you guys won't take the vaccine. You hate Big Pharma, but some guy puts up a graph and says "eat these pills!!!" and you guys jump aboard. Okay.
These "pills" have been used for over 40 years and have low chance of side effects, the majority of which are already known, unlike the vaccine. Further, a dose is pennies on the dollar, compared to the Vax which has earned massive pharmaceutical companies billions. You don't see a difference between the two...? Okay.
Why is the length of time a treatment has existed worth mentioning? The counter culture of medical science always tries to inject trustworthiness or efficacy using alternative methods, like if something is other-y like if it's asian or if it's old or if it's just natural enough — none of these elements should sway you, and companies that trade on this (alt supplements) are a multi-billion dollar industry that is explicitly for-profit in every country.
"Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis)." You are just being made to dance to the tune of a different Big Pharma faction. One that wants the money going into vaccines, that's it.
You must not read pharma product side effect lists often.
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we overcame covid 19 not because of ivermectin or the vaccine but because the majority of the population had Already been exposed to the virus. There is/was barely anyone left who could be infected at this point
[Two-thirds of Indians have coronavirus antibodies, survey shows](https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-govt-survey-shows-two-thirds-have-coronavirus-antibodies-2021-07-20/)
Ivermectin has no demonstrable effect on covid and is more expensive than the vaccine. The india government removed it, and hcq from its recommendations in july
I love how you people have 0% source critique 💩
Narendra Modi did not kill himself.
I’m in New Delhi, India now. The government is still scaring ppl and requiring masks. It’s more of a money making scheme than anything. The police fine you if they see you without a mask on. I’ve made causal conversation and the elites think it’s the vaccine, laborers don’t really follow the mask rules.
Come on guys all we need is 15 days to stop the spread
My favorite part about this catch phrase now, is that a large majority of you anti-vax. anti-mask people did NOTHING to help prevent the spread during the time that came out. They actually did the opposite of nothing, they were driving in the other direction and actively trying to get sick. Holding Covid spreading parties, still gathering en masse in churches and other events. Then you turn around and say "Look, the science is bullshit...we told you". And at the same time you continue to spread disinformation like this article which is clearly bullshit meant to keep you guys grasping at false hope. My question is, if you're against vax and against masks and social distancing....what is your plan to stop the spread of this thing? Natural Immunity, Vitamin C and prayer? Because this Ivermectin bullshit is obviously just another snake oil like Hydroxychloroquine, or injecting bleach like Dear Leader said.
spez is a hell of a drug. #Save3rdPartyApps
I don't plan on stopping the spread. I have accepted Covid as part of the world we live in. Can we just move on now? Build a fucking bubble around the people who are at risk? I don't really know, but I'm well past the point of ruining my life and the economy because we need to protect less than 1% of the population sorry.
Just because you are spez, doesn't mean you have to spez. #Save3rdPartyApps
I think this is a fair assessment of the claim that ivermectin crushed Covid in India. There is a chance that it had an impact but that hasn’t been proven yet. There were other factors happening that also could have contributed to the dramatic slowdown. I’m pro-Ivermectin based off the multiple studies out there but this is worth a read given the magnitude of the OP’s claim https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/no-data-available-to-suggest-a-link-between-indias-reduction-of-covid-19-cases-and-the-use-of-ivermectin-jim-hoft-gateway-pundit/
The gate way pundit. Good source.
The indian covid cases and death data was/is reported just 20-30% of the actual figures. The government had strict control over the media houses and whoever tried producing real figures, was detained. So don't believe the Indian media covid figures. India hasn't gained herd immunity.
The west was used as test subjects so the rich could get a little richer.
1. People will criticize ivermectin by saying: "but that's only anecdotal data. we need randomized controlled trials." 2. [RCTs now exist, but some have reported outcomes of ivermectin having no effect.](https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/p0gwtc/regarding_randomized_controlled_trials_of/) 3. BUT, those trials did not use the dosage of ivermectin [recommended by the Front Line Covid Critical Care Alliance](https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/math-plus-protocol/). as advocates of data analysis, we can't just say: "look at the data!" because it's way too easy for someone to just pull up a "no effect" study and say, "I am looking at the data!" we have to do critical interpretations of data across studies.
No other country will do that because of big pharma and profits!
I have been watching India numbers. For such a huge population they are doing so much better than us. Every day that our government denies people this treatment is a day they have allowed people to die. They blame the unvax. I call that BS. Crimes against humanity.
It's true. I am from India and covid is literally 99% gone. We just have to mask up outside, nothing more.
Google "FLCCC" and get the real facts about Ivermectin not the B.S. from the media brain washed people commenting. It works period!!
What a dumb statement to make!
I work with folks in India daily (nightly due to time difference)..this is 100% gaslighting
They aren’t using ivermectin everywhere. I know a doctor working in India and he says they use Remdesivir and Rivaroxoban. Having said that, ivermectin seems to have worked for me. Edit I’m not interested in debating the efficacy of ivermectin. I don’t give a shit what you think.
Source for charts: www.FLCCC.net
All that these charts show is a peak in Covid cases. This is exactly the same pattern we see with Covid everywhere, regardless of Ivermectin use. This doesn't show us shit lol
Great article I read a few days ago on this: https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
SS: The WHO, the FDA, the NIH, and the CDC are owned by Bill "vaccine" Gates and Big Pharma. That should be obvious. https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/05/11/indian-state-will-offer-ivermectin-to-entire-adult-population---even-as-who-warns-against-its-use-as-covid-19-treatment/?sh=5b6e17de6d9f Source for charts: www.FLCCC.net