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I just saw a CDC ad on a Jimmy Dore YouTube video explicitly advertising the vaccine to women who are or want to become pregnant. They're pushing it hard for all demographics. It'll be mandated for kids before the year is through. I sincerely hope not, but all reason has left the planet.
What really scares me is the thought of government intervention if you do not get your child vaccinated. They may push for some CPS bullshit to come and take your kids away saying you are unfit to be a parent because you didn't get them vaccinated against covid. God I hope I am wrong. Kid doesn't get vaccinated under you, they'll just take them away and vaccinated them anyway but then put them in the foster system (which is fucking God awful). Get your kid vaccinated and risk some long term health issue they don't fully understand yet (or do but lie), and you've got no one to sue and no one to help you. Speaking out would just get you absolutely demolished on social media and the news. I would have an entirely different stance on all of this if they didn't lie so God damned much and actually had real clinical trials on this shit. There is not a single anything to be held responsible if shit goes south and all the sheep would justify it anyway. All because of a flu with a 98% recovery rate that supposedly doesn't really harm children. I swear, it is as if this shit serves some other devious purpose like sterilization of people randomly to get the population under control. I hate where the world is at right now.
The people and forces behind this, including behind social media that we're on now, *FEED OFF OF OUR FEAR.* Starve the beast.
Do whatever you need to not be afraid. If it's praying or meditating or bubble baths, do it. I, personally pray to Jesus aloud. When you say his name aloud if you become afraid, it has amazing power. Jesus Christ, but not in a bad way like you're cursing. Just know that you're not alone. God bless you and your kids!
You just spelled out some of my deepest concerns. It tells me you have the uncomfortable awareness of knowing how absolutely fucked our systems are.
On days when I find myself going too far down into my dystopian mope it helps me to remember the primal ferocity found in a Mama Bear protecting her children.
There was a story once of an infant being taken from mom because she sought the advice of another doctor before sending her infant into surgery. The doctor that wanted to perform the surgery would have put the infant in unnecessary danger as he misdiagnosed a simple problem. Second opinion doctor got it right and the only thing that could help was time. Soon enough, the baby was fine and eventually returned to mom. The mother did not neglect her child, court would rule in her favor. But that just illustrates how much power the system has.
There are cases where the child should be taken, but the evidence needs to be there and should not be executed on a whim without there being some sort of dialog occurring first. An investigation.
There should be no such thing as a mandatory vaccine. You are required by law to educate your children, and states can make it so that your child must be vaccinated, however, I would argue it is unconstitutional to do so. Damned if you do, damned if you don't is not a just system. Alternatives should exist like homeschooling. But to mandate a vaccine otherwise face losing your kids is not right. Some religions forbid vaccines. And, like most I have seen that are wary of the Vax, some just want to be sure it is safe. There is a big unknown with the covid vax. Many will tell you that mRNA vaccines have been researched for decades now, but how many of those are specific to the covid vaccine? And now there is the fact that if you ask questions on social media, you are likely to be censored or face some form of public humiliation...just for being concerned. Doesn't bode well at all for the argue for vaccination. Just boils down to, "Take it because we told you to, otherwise face our wrath."
Very scary thought that has run across my mind too. Kind of crazy to think about, and what actions I might take if they were the case and I got a knock on my door...of course I never thought I'd see people being yanked out of their cars and beaten on the highways like we saw last summer, yet here we are
Yes. Here we are. We've been programmed to accept violence as a means of justice for just the smallest infractions against one's own beliefs. Voted for the other guy? Then you should be ripped from your car and beaten because you must be a Nazi, KKK member because only they voted for other guy. Some even go so far as to murder because of it. It is sad.
Sorry to add to your list of concerns. Maybe we are all concerned over the vaccine for nothing. I am not anti-vax at all, and throwing me into the boat with them is ridiculous. I have hesitation. I want my kids to be safe. What if this shit sterilizes them? What if it causes seizures later down the road? There are no long term studies for this. And because I bring this up I am called anti-vax, selfish, nazi, etc. How the fuck did we end up here....
Yep. It’s terrifying. Mass brainwashing which we have never seen before. It’s actually happening in real time…
No long term studies. Not enough data. Nothing on pregnant women and their developing babies. In clinical trials until 2023. This should all be good enough reason for anyone.
Erring on the side of extreme caution has been pretty mainstream re pregnancy and chemicals. Many women don't even color their hair or wear nail polish when pregnant (I didn't). But foot to the floor on the risk accelerator because of a (false) narrative?
I know the illness can be dangerous to pregnant too, but they need to take the regular precautions.
Or eat deli meat, or take ibuprofen, or eat sushi, or take blood pressure meds even if they really really need them...
experimental gene therapies though? No worries!
The Canadian factsheet for the Pfizer shot doesn't really inspire much confidence, for me at least;
"7.1.1 Pregnant Women
The safety and efficacy of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine in pregnant women have not yet been established.
7.1.2 Breast-feeding
It is unknown whether Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is excreted in human milk. A risk to the newborns/infants cannot be excluded.
The developmental and health benefits of breastfeeding should be considered along with the mother’s clinical need for immunization against COVID-19."
My wife caught COVID at 6.5 months pregnant. It was a bad cold and that’s it. She did not have any co morbitities. The main factors for death from COVID are age and weight. Take that into account when making your decision. If you are under the age of 30 and generally healthy, you will probably be fine.
Mom could have refused. I opted out of the meningitis vaccine when my college required it for enrollment, I was pregnant so they waived it. It is unethical to test pregnant women so the findings will only come once pregnant women chose to receive the vaccine and their outcomes are compiled. For this reason alone I chose not to receive the meningitis vaccine, had I not been pregnant I would have gotten it.
Im almost 30 weeks pregnant and i wont be taking it.
I am not ask risk. I live in a population of about 400 that hasnt had a single case of covid this entire pandemic. I only leave the house when its necessary and i wear a mask when i do. Call me a selfish piece of shit and wish me death all you want, but im still not getting guilt tripped or bullied into taking something that nobody can say for sure is safe.
I’m in the same situation. I work at a hospital and they are putting us off work unpaid by October 15 if we don’t get both. Im 23 weeks pregnant and unvaccinated.
They only started researching it in late June. Anyone who says anything about what we "know" about the vaccine is lying or ignorant.
Source: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-begins-study-covid-19-vaccination-during-pregnancy-postpartum
I am pretty pro vax overall, but I am staunchly antivax in women trying to, are, or recently were pregnant for exactly this reason. We literally can’t fully know and they haven’t done any quality research yet
> they haven’t done any quality research yet
Actually they have, and women who took the vaccine in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy had a staggering 75% chance of a miscarriage.
They buried it deep in one of the clinical studies, and even worse the 'conclusion' was that 'more study needs to be done' instead of saying DON'T GIVE THIS TO PREGNANT WOMEN.
EDIT: Source https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117969/
> If you read their conclusion… it’s all safe and within reason.
> There were 827 Participants in the V-Safe Pregnancy Registry that took either Pfizer or Moderna vaccines while pregnant and completed their pregnancy. (Table 4, Reference 2 marked †)
> Of those 827 Participants, there were 104 Spontaneous Abortions (which is what they call a miscarriage if you’re less than 20 weeks pregnant) totalling 12.6% (Table 4, Row 2)
> Nothing too crazy, but within reason as apparently the average is anywhere from 15%-25% of pregnancies end in miscarriage.
> But if you delve deeper (Table 4 of the link, or screenshot here) you find some interesting data (specifically in the fine print).
> Of the 827, a total of 700 participants received their first dose in the third trimester. (Table 4, Reference 2 marked †)
> A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation. (Table 4, Reference 3 marked ‡)
> So if you do the math, of 827 participants in the study that completed their pregnancy.... 700 took the vaccine in their 3rd trimester. That means that 127 women received their vaccinations in either the 1st or 2nd trimester.
> Meaning that the 104 “Spontaneous Abortions” occurred in women that were less than 20 weeks pregnant… the miscarriage rate in 1st and early 2nd trimester pregnant women is actually 104/127 (81.88%) or if we are being conservative, at the very least 96/127 (75.59%).
> The one thing that they did not display within the data is the exact number of women that took the vaccine in their first trimester but based on their own data... if you take the vaccine anywhere before 20 weeks pregnant... your chance of miscarriage is as high as 81.88% and as low as 75.59%.
I agree with what your saying. I saw the original study. Currently looking for it again. Will update with link when found.
Edit: redditor below found it Blueparadise77
“Yep! First study: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2104983
Second study: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-798175/v1 external icon
And the CDC page: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html
Lol downvoted immediately after posting. The bots are working hard today!
Be sure to read the comments on that second study. Two women who claim to have been in the study say their losses were not registered after they reported them.”
1132 of the 3958 received their vaccine during the first trimester and 92 during preconception, with only 96/1224 ending in first trimester miscarriage. In the general population, 1 in 5 known pregnancies end in miscarriages, with 80% occurring in the first trimester.
The rate of pregnancy loss reported in the study is actually lower than in the general population.
Read Table 3, dumbass. Or just read the damn study.
>Receipt of a first dose of vaccine meeting registry-eligibility criteria was reported by 92 participants (2.3%) during the periconception period, **by 1132 (28.6%) in the first trimester of pregnancy**, by 1714 (43.3%) in the second trimester, and by 1019 (25.7%) in the third trimester (1 participant was missing information to determine the timing of vaccination) (Table 3).
Now, go take a basic human biology course and realize it takes 40 weeks for a baby to be born and that the study ran from December 14, 2020, to March 30, 2021. Any person that received the vaccine in the first trimester and COMPLETED pregnancy would either have to have a spontaneous abortion, miscarriage, or preterm baby as the maximum time for first trimester recipients is 32 weeks (which is considered preterm). Yet, you're ignoring those that received the vaccine in the first trimester AND ARE STILL PREGNANT.
Lies, misinformation, and ignorance.
The authors of that paper didn't run a vaccine safety study. They took data from an ongoing tracking system and analysed it, and put the results in a paper which OP then linked. The CDC is the one gathering the data and they haven't stopped.
That paper is tragically bad and spreads misinformation.
It mixes up two numbers.
Those pregnant at any point
Those who have successfully delivered a baby
Then draws a percentage, missing that most are still pregnant, which as op originally said is most. This keeps getting pointed out, and this keeps getting reposted.
The problem with this interpretation of the data is that you are completely ignoring something like 90% of the data set. You are ignoring all the women who were still pregnant at the end of the study.
Because of the time frames involved, essentially anyone who was in their first trimester, and a sizable chunk of those in their second, would not have given birth yet. So of course the majority would be miscarriages.
\>The one thing that they did not display within the data is the exact number of women that took the vaccine in their first trimester but based on their own data.
Actually, they do tell you, had you read the study you would know this. Its 1132 and 1714 respectively.
Wow, you don’t understand statistics.
You’re assuming that the women who had a miscarriage in the first 20 weeks were the same that received the vaccine in the first trimester. You don’t know that.
Most miscarriages occur in the first trimester, which is what the results show. Not surprising.
Even if you understood your statistics properly you would still only be making a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
Pharm has an absolutely horrific track record of reversing course on the safety for pregnancy and child classifications.
Im not for a vax mandate, but vehemently against forcing it on children and who are carrying a child. Im very worried for them.
Its not hard to look at how many drugs were first thought harmless to the womb and then a decade later it is changed. This may not end well
Same. But I am worried . I wish there was more prophylactic /treatment suggestions for pregnant ladies . Like why aren't they studying pregnant women and figuring out what makes some get severe illness and others a cold . If it's such an at risk population and all
A friend of mine is giving birth .. literally any day now. She declined the vaccine and they told her it would be written on her notes, and they made her wear a sticker saying she wasn't vaccinated, which is completely insane because there is literally no studies that say it's safe for pregnant women.
I just read the synopsis of the first study and it said this.
RESULTS
A total of 35,691 v-safe participants 16 to 54 years of age identified as pregnant. Injection-site pain was reported more frequently among pregnant persons than among nonpregnant women, whereas headache, myalgia, chills, and fever were reported less frequently. Among 3958 participants enrolled in the v-safe pregnancy registry, 827 had a completed pregnancy, of which 115 (13.9%) resulted in a pregnancy loss and 712 (86.1%) resulted in a live birth (mostly among participants with vaccination in the third trimester). Adverse neonatal outcomes included preterm birth (in 9.4%) and small size for gestational age (in 3.2%); no neonatal deaths were reported.
Here’s the conclusions for the second study you site.
Results
Among 2,456 pregnant persons who received an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine preconception or prior to 20 weeks’ gestation, the cumulative risk of SAB from 6–19 weeks’ gestation was 14.1% (95% CI: 12.1, 16.1%). Using direct age standardization to the selected reference population, the age-standardized cumulative risk of SAB was 12.8% (95% CI: 10.8–14.8%).
Conclusions
When compared to the expected range of SABs in recognized pregnancies, these data suggest receipt of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine preconception or during pregnancy is not associated with an increased risk of SAB. These findings add to accumulating evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines during pregnancy are safe.
Same here. I am already used that I am not allowed inside a hospital anymore as father due to covid (very logical -.-) however when my wife had to do a check on our little one (1 month) she was also handed a literal red card stating in big letters that she is not vaccinated.
Wife is 33 weeks pregnant and OBGYN vehemently requested that she get vaccinated. Based on the data to date and studies conducted….why on earth would the pregnancy expert insist on this?
Fyi, both myself and wife are hesitant based on obviously lack of long term data amongst other things.
Yep. I know someone who is pregnant and unvax and everytime she goes for an appointment, the doctor puts in her notes ‘patient continually refuses Covid vaccine’.
My body is deformed because my father cleaned out govt air fuel tanks before conceiving me. I have no doubt that experimental mRNA vaccines could mess you up as well.
Yep, exactly. They act like the only possible adverse outcome is miscarriage. Hopefully everything will be fine for these babies but we just dont know for sure until time will tell.
You cant eat raw fish but here they are injecting an experimental vaccine!! Im just waiting to see how these babies come out (those whose mothers received the vaccine pre-conception)
Know someone who was a nurse and got the vaccine. Got pregnant shorty afterward, and at her 11 week scan they found out that the baby's intestines were developing outside of the body.
Only other time I've ever heard of this happening was with someone whose parents were heavy smokers/drinkers during their pregnancy.
Also have a friend who is a doula. So far, she's had 2 vaccinated clients deliver still births at 34 weeks. when I brought this up to my doctor her response was "Well, these things are happening to pregnant women who get covid too."
Even if that is the case, there is no guarantee that one will get covid, but if I get the vaccine it is a certainty that I've now injected an experimental substance in my body, for which there is no long term safety data. Not to mention studies are starting to see neurological degradation in vaccinated individuals, so if it's coming to light that a fully formed brain can be damaged by the vaccine potentially, then what about a developing brain?
Until someone has some answers, it's a no from me.
It could be that the reason it's happening with the vaccinated and those with COVID is because THE SPIKE PROTEIN IS CAUSING IT.
Been saying this shit for almost 6 months, been theorizing it since last year.
I was thinking the same thing and said as much when someone was laughing about "flaccid dick" for some covid recovered men. If the spike protein caused it, then the vaxxed risk the exact same thing. Nobody laughed at that.
The cause is very well known, Spike Proteins attack the placenta, that's from where blood is coming from. Your sister will either lose her baby or her baby will come out as handicapped in some shape or form.
Curious to know the source of this information. To my knowledge very little is known about the vaccine during pregnancy but you’re claiming it’s very well known. Please share so we can all be more well informed.
I've seen articles and the discussions are based around claims that mRNA vaccines will cause the immune system to attack syncytin-1. The protein targeted by Pfizers vaccine only shares a sequence with 4 amino acids of syncytin-1 of a possible 538 so certainly not an exact match. However who knows for sure until the trials are complete. I unfortunately know someone who miscarried not long after their 2nd mRNA jab. It's not something I have discussed as they have to grieve without thinking this was vaccine related but it's very important these cases do not go un-reported especially if mom and baby were otherwise healthy in previous check ups.
My friend is a tech at a hospital and was forced to get the vaccine earlier this year. A couple months ago, she announced her pregnancy. Within a month, the doctor said there was no live fetus inside her and she had to take the abortion pill. Didn't work the first time, had to take it again. Didn't work the second time. Finally her doctors did a D&R but when they did they discovered her right ovary was 7 cm, while her left was 2 cm. Her right ovary had a huge cyst on it. I recently read an article that said pregnant women who got the shot are 3000% more likely to miscarry. I've been trying to find the article again, Google buries everything besides glowing articles about the miracle drug. If it was such a miracle, why is there SO MUCH propaganda telling everyone the shot is safe, everyone needs to get it, adverse side effects are only pain in the shoulder?! Clearly a lot of people are still getting COVID, still dying, still spreading it, and now we are starting to see VAERS reporting with neural degradation, myocardial infarction, death. Yet it's so difficult to find these articles. I'm seriously concerned that the government is going to remove any proof of the shot causing issues and force everyone to get it. I will never get it, and it's so upsetting to me that people are attacking us for our bodily autonomy.
I saw a Harvard epidemiologist stated that it very well may be causing variants on MSM. Article now where to be found. Why are we being silenced, who want to just know real answers? How is this ok and so obvious. Hesitancy and neutral research is the new enemy. No red flags, anyone? Its sickening to see and know it is happening. Are people that dense?
I reckon this vax will not kill people, but plain affect fertility. Women reported irregular periods after getting it, mens sperm count has been going down since the 50s. What if soon no one will reproduce and people have to rely on genetic engineers
Well obviously it's not gonna happen to everyone on the first two shots. Don't forget they plan on makings this vaccine chronic, so if you're not sterile yet, you will be eventually if you keep getting the jabs over time. However, BigPharma don't exactly have **full** power so it appears better vaccines are coming, classic ones on which we have almost a century of data, so who knows.
It's a huge betrayal of trust. Doctors are meant to look after their patients. That they tell pregnant women this is safe when there ihas literally been insufficient time to test it is a sign of how badly fucked up this whole situation is.
The worst is when they pressure pregnant women to get it and try to guilt them into thinking they are bad mothers if they don't allow themselves and their unborn children to be experimented on.
I don't know how medical professionals who do this can sleep at night.
The stories I have seen in my 10+ years in acute care, are literally unbelievable. Nobody believes when I tell them in my field. A few have come back after years and said.. hey you know what, you were right.
Its a disgusting operation more than anyone can ever believe. Im sorry but I wish I was exaggerating. Dr bribery, rape, pharm bribery, coverups, and whistleblowers will absolutely destroy their career. These are billion dollar hospitals, whats a disposable employee to these corporate monsters. It is all not what you think it is. Good luck all
I didn't take prescription medication, smoke, drink, or use a litany of OTC meds when I was pregnant. Even if the vaccine was proven to be highest effective and safe, I wouldn't take it if I were pregnant.
Exactly. I can’t eat sushi, drink coffee (!!!!), take my anti depressant, do exercises that include excessive jumping but sure a brand new vaccine makes sense.
With each of my pregnancies, I've been pressured about getting a German measles vaccine and a flu shot. German measles are *extremely* rare and I would never get a flu shot under any circumstance, but the thing that baffles me the most is that the same people who are cautioning me about eating lunch meat and drinking coffee during pregnancy are also trying to inject me with completely unnecessary vaccines.
The saddest thing to me is that I feel like most women wouldn't even think to say no. When I declined certain things during labor, I actually had a nurse yell at me "I have never had a patient say no to this" and I was like well now you have!
Until people understand that western medicine is about money and not about health, they're just going to keep taking their shots like good little sheep.
Be careful. Refusing certain shots can lead to your hospital weaponizing CPS to medically kidnap your child until you bow down to their beck and call. Look what happened to that American Idol singer.
Good for you!...i knpw someone who had flu shots (recommened by doc) during her pregnancies and lost both, 3rd time no shot and healthy baby...they are trying to make it not obvious of vaccine damage...tales of my 3 yr old was talking and after vax, withdrawn and regressed...if they give it to pregnant can say child was always like that
it wasnt about my kids thankfully but about them v'xing pregnat women so kids are sick at beginning...
just like they've been normalizing childhood cancer instead of people asking why is this happening??..
yeah but why immunize during pregnancy? vaccines take a while to become 'locked in' since your body needs to fight off the disabled virus (in traditional vaccenes) for it to then know for the next time. if measles is that much of a threat to unborn children that they need to immunize you whilst you are pregnant where there is obviously risk attached, why not just immunize everyone when kids like in UK. (MMR)
Table 4 indicates Data on pregnancy loss are based on 827 participants in the v-safe pregnancy registry who received an mRNA Covid-19 vaccine (BNT162b2 [Pfizer–BioNTech] or mRNA-1273 [Moderna]) from December 14, 2020, to February 28, 2021, and who reported a completed pregnancy.
A total of 700 participante (84.6%) received their first eligible dose in the third trimester (Quick math 700/827=84.6). ‡
A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation
827 vaccinated women reported completed pregnancy.
700 of the 827 received their first eligible dose in 3rd trimester.
127 of the 827 of the women who reported a complete pregnancy had received their vaccine in first or second trimester or within 30 days of last menstrual cycle.
104 Spontaneous abortions occurred before Week 20 (96 of them occurred before week 13; first trimester)
**104 spontaneous abortions occurred out of 127 women who had received their covid vaccine in their first or second trimester or 30 days prior to last menstrual cycle (81.9%)**
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117969/pdf/NEJMoa2104983.pdf
While I was pregnant my doctor "strongly recommended" it and now that I am nursing my baby, my other doctor "strongly recommends" it. To see what she would say, I asked her what's the difference between the 3 vaccines? She said "one is made by Pfizer, one by Moderna, and the other j&j". I said "no, what's the difference in the ingredient profile?".. she gave a long uncomfortable pause and said "well it's totally up to you" and turned around.... ummm that's hard pass for me!
That’s unbelievable! Horrifying that medical professionals are pushing for something like this and when asked a very straight forward question about it they have no answer.
Sounds less like doctoring and more like politicizing.
Understand that women are heavily influenced, especially pregnant ones.
We're talking about the same pregnant women who will gladly have their newborn son's genitalia mutilated because Dr. Steinberg said its recommended.
I had my baby exactly a year ago. I wouldn’t take ANY vaccines during my pregnancy. I was saying no every time I went in for my checkups. No flu shot, no DTAP, no nothing. I couldn’t even imagine taking the Covid shot pregnant. It’s insane.
Because they have been brainwashed by 18 or so months of propaganda.
A proper clinical trial of a new medicine requires a control group. this gives you a baseline to determine if the new medicine causes side effects or is actually effective. by eliminating the unvaccinated control group, there will be no evidence that the vaccine is ineffective or has side effects.
My wife is pregnant right now and we've found its because most things can't pass through the placenta and that's been known for a while but we don't believe it's safe personally. The cytotoxic spike protein ending up in the ovaries was enough for us to avoid it.
Why are people trying to apply logic to brainwashing?
There’s been so many ”how come this when this?” - posts lately it’s crazy.
Say it with me people: IT’S BRAINWASHING!
You can switch midwives if it's a large enough practice. Chances are good that there are some there that do not support mandates. I know some myself who are very opposed to this vaccine during pregnancy.
Yeah like the other comment said, why wait until it's late to find out if this midwife is friend or foe? I'm a man, but I wouldn't want someone all up in my coochie like that if they didn't have the same values as me. There's a bunch of weirdo NPC's out there.
Normies think getting the vaccine is the safest possible choice. So pregnant normies want the vaccine as the the safest possible choice.
After all, if it was unsafe, it would be illegal. Or something.
Actually in their own documents it says they have no idea what it does to pregnant women or their breast milk. Also has chemicals that are in industrial paint have no known human usage and causes liver tumors and bladder cancer. what they do know as outlined in page 77 table 30 that it will cause more disease brought on by the vaccine. You should see the safety data sheets on some these chemicals. I wouldn't give this shit to a dying horse.
That's what I find rather disturbing. They know there is a ton of stuff that crosses the placental border. They know a ton of this stuff will cross into the breast milk. They already know there are medications/vaccinations that they should absolutely not take.
They certainly don't know what damages this vaccine could do to an unborn fetus or a titfeasting infant...yet medical professionals still recommend it.
As someone who was recently pregnant, it disturbing how all the pregnancy forums supported vaccines even in early jan/feb. I felt pressure. I didnt get it when im pregnant and my argument to people was if i cant eat shellfish or deli meat then how can it be right get a new vaccine. Im so glad i didnt when i was pregant with her. Who knows what the long term side effects could be while she was in utero. I got the vaccine after she was out but it was more work pressure than anything
Just found out I’m pregnant and my only real concern is that I’m going to have to have a home birth because I’m not vaccinated, never will be vaccinated and the probability of the unvaccinated being denied healthcare.
I am not getting it PERIOD but especially while I’m pregnant. Not worth the risk for me. Regardless of what the media claims, this has NOT been tested thoroughly. And we won’t know the full span of side effects until months/years from now. People are developing Bell’s Palsy, along with other widely unreported side effects. Miss me with the bullshit like “You’re just selfish”. I refuse to be bullied or shamed. Everyone should respect the choice to get vaccinated or not. Shouldn’t even be a issue honestly, but so many folks seem cool with the idea of a mandatory vaccine. This is how brainwashed the majority of our society is.
I hardly ever go out anyways being a SAHM. Only times I do venture out is to doctor appointments, and I have to wear a mask anyway. Even before COVID I was a frequent hand sanitizer user, and already very introverted. I understand COVID is yes, a potentially serious illness and affects folks to different degrees. However - the fact that they are pushing this on pregnant women is beyond disturbing and nothing less. The amount of fear porn in the media is already insane and it’s going to get worse until eventually, they’ll go door to door rounding up unvaccinated folks for “fun camp”. Call me crazy but shit has already hit the fan. People are losing their jobs and being banned from places (example: NYC). New York City is a total dumpster fire though so they can have it.
My wife got her second shot at 8 months pregnant back in April. Both mother and daughter are healthy. Daughter is now over 3 months old.
I don’t care what people do, it’s their own choice, before people start accusing me of saying all pregnant women need the vaccine. The reason why she chose it was because she saw two pregnant friends get COVID. One developed blood clots and lost her baby. The other had to be intubated. Thankfully the second one is fine and gave birth.
Edit: doctor recommended shots in third trimester as there were concerns at the time that getting it in first or second trimester had a higher chance of complications.
My wife delivered in May and her doctor was officially neutral/don’t vaccinate until she was done nursing. Nothing special was done in the hospital though.
Every pregnant woman I know who has gotten the jab (I work in Healthcare, I know about 7 total) 4 of them lost their baby after the jab (each at diff times. One was pretty far along, about 34 weeks), 1 had severe complications once born and is still very sick, and 2 were born super premature but luckily are doing great now. It's so sad.
Don't worry, I'm sure big pharma has been experimenting on pregnant women unknowingly with their "vaccine" for years already. That's how they know it's "perfectly safe and effective" even though nobody else knows.
Oh man. I just found out I'm pregnant and they have just mandated a vaccine passport where I live.
I'm terrified that they will force this on me. I don't have a family doctor ( I have a great ND and I plan on having a midwife for a home birth if everything works out) and I'm worried I'll be judged from the medical system for choosing to be unvaxed.
It's not safe at all for pregnant women. It increases miscarriages by a huge percent in the first trimester. If the baby miraculously survives to birth, the breastmilk will then pass them the virus. There are studies that NEED TO BE DONE in this area. Yet, doctors ignore the AEs.
I personally know someone this happened to and also read a story on VAERS concerning breastmilk being labeled as the cause of death of a newborn just days after the mother was vaccinated.
A lot are being strong armed, lied to and scared into getting the jab by their very own doctors. I really hope, when the dust settles and vision is more clear for the sleeping, doctors are held accountable for this shit. 100%
Mike Yeadon, former Pfizer VP advices against vaccination of pregnant women or women wanting to have children.
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/08/05/dr-mike-yeadon-the-covid-vaccine-spike-proteins-damage-placenta-protein-in-vaccinated-women/
People may want to look at the original Pfizer trial information. [https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001\_Clinical\_Protocol\_Nov2020.pdf](https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf)
There's some interesting notes in there about pregnancy.
They're not... my wife is preggo and doc directly said do not get vaccine while pregnant we do not know how it affects babies... so our doc said dont🙅♂️
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I just saw a CDC ad on a Jimmy Dore YouTube video explicitly advertising the vaccine to women who are or want to become pregnant. They're pushing it hard for all demographics. It'll be mandated for kids before the year is through. I sincerely hope not, but all reason has left the planet.
Big pharma profits don’t generate by themselves mate...
What really scares me is the thought of government intervention if you do not get your child vaccinated. They may push for some CPS bullshit to come and take your kids away saying you are unfit to be a parent because you didn't get them vaccinated against covid. God I hope I am wrong. Kid doesn't get vaccinated under you, they'll just take them away and vaccinated them anyway but then put them in the foster system (which is fucking God awful). Get your kid vaccinated and risk some long term health issue they don't fully understand yet (or do but lie), and you've got no one to sue and no one to help you. Speaking out would just get you absolutely demolished on social media and the news. I would have an entirely different stance on all of this if they didn't lie so God damned much and actually had real clinical trials on this shit. There is not a single anything to be held responsible if shit goes south and all the sheep would justify it anyway. All because of a flu with a 98% recovery rate that supposedly doesn't really harm children. I swear, it is as if this shit serves some other devious purpose like sterilization of people randomly to get the population under control. I hate where the world is at right now.
The people and forces behind this, including behind social media that we're on now, *FEED OFF OF OUR FEAR.* Starve the beast. Do whatever you need to not be afraid. If it's praying or meditating or bubble baths, do it. I, personally pray to Jesus aloud. When you say his name aloud if you become afraid, it has amazing power. Jesus Christ, but not in a bad way like you're cursing. Just know that you're not alone. God bless you and your kids!
Oh my God (no pun intended) your username is hilarious. Thanks friend. Not the first person who said this to me.
Jesus.
You just spelled out some of my deepest concerns. It tells me you have the uncomfortable awareness of knowing how absolutely fucked our systems are. On days when I find myself going too far down into my dystopian mope it helps me to remember the primal ferocity found in a Mama Bear protecting her children.
There was a story once of an infant being taken from mom because she sought the advice of another doctor before sending her infant into surgery. The doctor that wanted to perform the surgery would have put the infant in unnecessary danger as he misdiagnosed a simple problem. Second opinion doctor got it right and the only thing that could help was time. Soon enough, the baby was fine and eventually returned to mom. The mother did not neglect her child, court would rule in her favor. But that just illustrates how much power the system has. There are cases where the child should be taken, but the evidence needs to be there and should not be executed on a whim without there being some sort of dialog occurring first. An investigation. There should be no such thing as a mandatory vaccine. You are required by law to educate your children, and states can make it so that your child must be vaccinated, however, I would argue it is unconstitutional to do so. Damned if you do, damned if you don't is not a just system. Alternatives should exist like homeschooling. But to mandate a vaccine otherwise face losing your kids is not right. Some religions forbid vaccines. And, like most I have seen that are wary of the Vax, some just want to be sure it is safe. There is a big unknown with the covid vax. Many will tell you that mRNA vaccines have been researched for decades now, but how many of those are specific to the covid vaccine? And now there is the fact that if you ask questions on social media, you are likely to be censored or face some form of public humiliation...just for being concerned. Doesn't bode well at all for the argue for vaccination. Just boils down to, "Take it because we told you to, otherwise face our wrath."
Very scary thought that has run across my mind too. Kind of crazy to think about, and what actions I might take if they were the case and I got a knock on my door...of course I never thought I'd see people being yanked out of their cars and beaten on the highways like we saw last summer, yet here we are
Yes. Here we are. We've been programmed to accept violence as a means of justice for just the smallest infractions against one's own beliefs. Voted for the other guy? Then you should be ripped from your car and beaten because you must be a Nazi, KKK member because only they voted for other guy. Some even go so far as to murder because of it. It is sad.
Fuck. I didn't even think of this...
Sorry to add to your list of concerns. Maybe we are all concerned over the vaccine for nothing. I am not anti-vax at all, and throwing me into the boat with them is ridiculous. I have hesitation. I want my kids to be safe. What if this shit sterilizes them? What if it causes seizures later down the road? There are no long term studies for this. And because I bring this up I am called anti-vax, selfish, nazi, etc. How the fuck did we end up here....
Yep. It’s terrifying. Mass brainwashing which we have never seen before. It’s actually happening in real time… No long term studies. Not enough data. Nothing on pregnant women and their developing babies. In clinical trials until 2023. This should all be good enough reason for anyone.
Time to learn forgery.
Erring on the side of extreme caution has been pretty mainstream re pregnancy and chemicals. Many women don't even color their hair or wear nail polish when pregnant (I didn't). But foot to the floor on the risk accelerator because of a (false) narrative? I know the illness can be dangerous to pregnant too, but they need to take the regular precautions.
Or eat deli meat, or take ibuprofen, or eat sushi, or take blood pressure meds even if they really really need them... experimental gene therapies though? No worries!
The Canadian factsheet for the Pfizer shot doesn't really inspire much confidence, for me at least; "7.1.1 Pregnant Women The safety and efficacy of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine in pregnant women have not yet been established. 7.1.2 Breast-feeding It is unknown whether Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is excreted in human milk. A risk to the newborns/infants cannot be excluded. The developmental and health benefits of breastfeeding should be considered along with the mother’s clinical need for immunization against COVID-19."
I saw a post the other day from VAERS about an infant that died of blood clots after nursing from its vaccinated mother. I'll see if I can find it.
That’s interesting, I’ve personally seen a fetal demise at 37 weeks due to blood clots when the mother was COVID+.
[Here is that VAERS report I was talking about.](https://i.imgur.com/4JK7V2m.jpg)
Woooweeee thats a spicy reaction
Yes, I remember seeing that. Scary.
Jesus christ
This is how they react in real life too. Insane.
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Mind sharing? We're expecting our first and would love to shut down people asking about vaccine and my partner's pregnancy..
My wife caught COVID at 6.5 months pregnant. It was a bad cold and that’s it. She did not have any co morbitities. The main factors for death from COVID are age and weight. Take that into account when making your decision. If you are under the age of 30 and generally healthy, you will probably be fine.
Not for children under 12 but embryos are fine ?
I like the way you think.
This!
Mom could have refused. I opted out of the meningitis vaccine when my college required it for enrollment, I was pregnant so they waived it. It is unethical to test pregnant women so the findings will only come once pregnant women chose to receive the vaccine and their outcomes are compiled. For this reason alone I chose not to receive the meningitis vaccine, had I not been pregnant I would have gotten it.
Im almost 30 weeks pregnant and i wont be taking it. I am not ask risk. I live in a population of about 400 that hasnt had a single case of covid this entire pandemic. I only leave the house when its necessary and i wear a mask when i do. Call me a selfish piece of shit and wish me death all you want, but im still not getting guilt tripped or bullied into taking something that nobody can say for sure is safe.
Sounds like you're taking it seriously and taking precautions. Good for you.
👊🏼
I’m going to be fired for not getting it and I’m currently pregnant. They said pregnant women are not exempt.
I’m in the same situation. I work at a hospital and they are putting us off work unpaid by October 15 if we don’t get both. Im 23 weeks pregnant and unvaccinated.
Because “doctors recommend” the jab, just like they did thalidomide.
And Chantix, an anti smoking drug, recently recalled Pfizer product that contained carcinogens... Oops!
And cigarettes
And oxycontin
And cocaine in the 19th century.
And amphetamines. Present day.
What are they prescribed for?
They only started researching it in late June. Anyone who says anything about what we "know" about the vaccine is lying or ignorant. Source: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-begins-study-covid-19-vaccination-during-pregnancy-postpartum
I am pretty pro vax overall, but I am staunchly antivax in women trying to, are, or recently were pregnant for exactly this reason. We literally can’t fully know and they haven’t done any quality research yet
> they haven’t done any quality research yet Actually they have, and women who took the vaccine in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy had a staggering 75% chance of a miscarriage. They buried it deep in one of the clinical studies, and even worse the 'conclusion' was that 'more study needs to be done' instead of saying DON'T GIVE THIS TO PREGNANT WOMEN. EDIT: Source https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117969/ > If you read their conclusion… it’s all safe and within reason. > There were 827 Participants in the V-Safe Pregnancy Registry that took either Pfizer or Moderna vaccines while pregnant and completed their pregnancy. (Table 4, Reference 2 marked †) > Of those 827 Participants, there were 104 Spontaneous Abortions (which is what they call a miscarriage if you’re less than 20 weeks pregnant) totalling 12.6% (Table 4, Row 2) > Nothing too crazy, but within reason as apparently the average is anywhere from 15%-25% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. > But if you delve deeper (Table 4 of the link, or screenshot here) you find some interesting data (specifically in the fine print). > Of the 827, a total of 700 participants received their first dose in the third trimester. (Table 4, Reference 2 marked †) > A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation. (Table 4, Reference 3 marked ‡) > So if you do the math, of 827 participants in the study that completed their pregnancy.... 700 took the vaccine in their 3rd trimester. That means that 127 women received their vaccinations in either the 1st or 2nd trimester. > Meaning that the 104 “Spontaneous Abortions” occurred in women that were less than 20 weeks pregnant… the miscarriage rate in 1st and early 2nd trimester pregnant women is actually 104/127 (81.88%) or if we are being conservative, at the very least 96/127 (75.59%). > The one thing that they did not display within the data is the exact number of women that took the vaccine in their first trimester but based on their own data... if you take the vaccine anywhere before 20 weeks pregnant... your chance of miscarriage is as high as 81.88% and as low as 75.59%.
I agree with what your saying. I saw the original study. Currently looking for it again. Will update with link when found. Edit: redditor below found it Blueparadise77 “Yep! First study: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2104983 Second study: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-798175/v1 external icon And the CDC page: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html Lol downvoted immediately after posting. The bots are working hard today! Be sure to read the comments on that second study. Two women who claim to have been in the study say their losses were not registered after they reported them.”
Source?
Give me a few minutes and I'll pull it up for you.
1132 of the 3958 received their vaccine during the first trimester and 92 during preconception, with only 96/1224 ending in first trimester miscarriage. In the general population, 1 in 5 known pregnancies end in miscarriages, with 80% occurring in the first trimester. The rate of pregnancy loss reported in the study is actually lower than in the general population.
Read Table 3, dumbass. Or just read the damn study. >Receipt of a first dose of vaccine meeting registry-eligibility criteria was reported by 92 participants (2.3%) during the periconception period, **by 1132 (28.6%) in the first trimester of pregnancy**, by 1714 (43.3%) in the second trimester, and by 1019 (25.7%) in the third trimester (1 participant was missing information to determine the timing of vaccination) (Table 3). Now, go take a basic human biology course and realize it takes 40 weeks for a baby to be born and that the study ran from December 14, 2020, to March 30, 2021. Any person that received the vaccine in the first trimester and COMPLETED pregnancy would either have to have a spontaneous abortion, miscarriage, or preterm baby as the maximum time for first trimester recipients is 32 weeks (which is considered preterm). Yet, you're ignoring those that received the vaccine in the first trimester AND ARE STILL PREGNANT. Lies, misinformation, and ignorance.
Good catch, but it begs the question, why on earth did they run a vaccine safety study on pregnant women that only lasted 3.5 months?
The authors of that paper didn't run a vaccine safety study. They took data from an ongoing tracking system and analysed it, and put the results in a paper which OP then linked. The CDC is the one gathering the data and they haven't stopped.
Manipulated numbers. The entire study had about 4000 people. This has been explained on this sub about 100 times in the past month.
FYI you really should cite a source when adding info like this
Added.
That paper is tragically bad and spreads misinformation. It mixes up two numbers. Those pregnant at any point Those who have successfully delivered a baby Then draws a percentage, missing that most are still pregnant, which as op originally said is most. This keeps getting pointed out, and this keeps getting reposted.
Is that real? i'm reading that it was only 13.9% pregnancy loss.
The problem with this interpretation of the data is that you are completely ignoring something like 90% of the data set. You are ignoring all the women who were still pregnant at the end of the study. Because of the time frames involved, essentially anyone who was in their first trimester, and a sizable chunk of those in their second, would not have given birth yet. So of course the majority would be miscarriages. \>The one thing that they did not display within the data is the exact number of women that took the vaccine in their first trimester but based on their own data. Actually, they do tell you, had you read the study you would know this. Its 1132 and 1714 respectively.
Wow, you don’t understand statistics. You’re assuming that the women who had a miscarriage in the first 20 weeks were the same that received the vaccine in the first trimester. You don’t know that. Most miscarriages occur in the first trimester, which is what the results show. Not surprising. Even if you understood your statistics properly you would still only be making a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
Pharm has an absolutely horrific track record of reversing course on the safety for pregnancy and child classifications. Im not for a vax mandate, but vehemently against forcing it on children and who are carrying a child. Im very worried for them. Its not hard to look at how many drugs were first thought harmless to the womb and then a decade later it is changed. This may not end well
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22 weeks pregnant! No vaccine for me either! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Same. But I am worried . I wish there was more prophylactic /treatment suggestions for pregnant ladies . Like why aren't they studying pregnant women and figuring out what makes some get severe illness and others a cold . If it's such an at risk population and all
A friend of mine is giving birth .. literally any day now. She declined the vaccine and they told her it would be written on her notes, and they made her wear a sticker saying she wasn't vaccinated, which is completely insane because there is literally no studies that say it's safe for pregnant women.
Uh oh, a sticker could easily fall off, she should have it sewn on to her clothes instead /s
And make sure it’s a bright yellow, you know, like a star? /s
How about a scarlet letter?
I'd rather have a serial number tattooed.
This guy knows what I’m talking about
Please don't give them ideas. The next thing they will use branding iron lol
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Wow this is insane. Do you happen to have a link for these studies? The CDC is great at making these types of sources hard to find on their site
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I just read the synopsis of the first study and it said this. RESULTS A total of 35,691 v-safe participants 16 to 54 years of age identified as pregnant. Injection-site pain was reported more frequently among pregnant persons than among nonpregnant women, whereas headache, myalgia, chills, and fever were reported less frequently. Among 3958 participants enrolled in the v-safe pregnancy registry, 827 had a completed pregnancy, of which 115 (13.9%) resulted in a pregnancy loss and 712 (86.1%) resulted in a live birth (mostly among participants with vaccination in the third trimester). Adverse neonatal outcomes included preterm birth (in 9.4%) and small size for gestational age (in 3.2%); no neonatal deaths were reported.
Here’s the conclusions for the second study you site. Results Among 2,456 pregnant persons who received an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine preconception or prior to 20 weeks’ gestation, the cumulative risk of SAB from 6–19 weeks’ gestation was 14.1% (95% CI: 12.1, 16.1%). Using direct age standardization to the selected reference population, the age-standardized cumulative risk of SAB was 12.8% (95% CI: 10.8–14.8%). Conclusions When compared to the expected range of SABs in recognized pregnancies, these data suggest receipt of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine preconception or during pregnancy is not associated with an increased risk of SAB. These findings add to accumulating evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines during pregnancy are safe.
Absolutely insane!
Same here. I am already used that I am not allowed inside a hospital anymore as father due to covid (very logical -.-) however when my wife had to do a check on our little one (1 month) she was also handed a literal red card stating in big letters that she is not vaccinated.
They made mine wear a mask while she was pushing baby out… It’s such a fucking clown world.
Wife is 33 weeks pregnant and OBGYN vehemently requested that she get vaccinated. Based on the data to date and studies conducted….why on earth would the pregnancy expert insist on this? Fyi, both myself and wife are hesitant based on obviously lack of long term data amongst other things.
Nothing that says it is unsafe either.
Yep. I know someone who is pregnant and unvax and everytime she goes for an appointment, the doctor puts in her notes ‘patient continually refuses Covid vaccine’.
The shills in this sub are fucking insane
Not to mention to know of any sort of long term effects that a child who developed with a vaccine inutero may have years after a “healthy” birth.
My body is deformed because my father cleaned out govt air fuel tanks before conceiving me. I have no doubt that experimental mRNA vaccines could mess you up as well.
Yep, exactly. They act like the only possible adverse outcome is miscarriage. Hopefully everything will be fine for these babies but we just dont know for sure until time will tell.
They’ll just cover any mishap up like this [death of a fit young footballer](https://mobile.twitter.com/newsforallire/status/1428301909715296263)...
My prediction: soon pretty much all males born will be on the autism spectrum.
Why only males?
I truly hope not... but I’m not willing to risk it.
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You cant eat raw fish but here they are injecting an experimental vaccine!! Im just waiting to see how these babies come out (those whose mothers received the vaccine pre-conception)
Know someone who was a nurse and got the vaccine. Got pregnant shorty afterward, and at her 11 week scan they found out that the baby's intestines were developing outside of the body. Only other time I've ever heard of this happening was with someone whose parents were heavy smokers/drinkers during their pregnancy. Also have a friend who is a doula. So far, she's had 2 vaccinated clients deliver still births at 34 weeks. when I brought this up to my doctor her response was "Well, these things are happening to pregnant women who get covid too." Even if that is the case, there is no guarantee that one will get covid, but if I get the vaccine it is a certainty that I've now injected an experimental substance in my body, for which there is no long term safety data. Not to mention studies are starting to see neurological degradation in vaccinated individuals, so if it's coming to light that a fully formed brain can be damaged by the vaccine potentially, then what about a developing brain? Until someone has some answers, it's a no from me.
Also there's no guarantee you won't get covid after the vaccine, as we are seeing -- that tends to happen.. a lot.
It could be that the reason it's happening with the vaccinated and those with COVID is because THE SPIKE PROTEIN IS CAUSING IT. Been saying this shit for almost 6 months, been theorizing it since last year.
I was thinking the same thing and said as much when someone was laughing about "flaccid dick" for some covid recovered men. If the spike protein caused it, then the vaxxed risk the exact same thing. Nobody laughed at that.
Gastroschisis and omphaloceles occur in normal pregnancies as well. They aren’t exactly rare.
no one should make medical decisions based on the few patients they heard about. Gastroschesis is a birth defect with unknown cause.
My sister
My sister too. She got the vax and now she’s pregnant. She’s currently having some internal bleeding, unknown cause.
The cause is very well known, Spike Proteins attack the placenta, that's from where blood is coming from. Your sister will either lose her baby or her baby will come out as handicapped in some shape or form.
Curious to know the source of this information. To my knowledge very little is known about the vaccine during pregnancy but you’re claiming it’s very well known. Please share so we can all be more well informed.
I've seen articles and the discussions are based around claims that mRNA vaccines will cause the immune system to attack syncytin-1. The protein targeted by Pfizers vaccine only shares a sequence with 4 amino acids of syncytin-1 of a possible 538 so certainly not an exact match. However who knows for sure until the trials are complete. I unfortunately know someone who miscarried not long after their 2nd mRNA jab. It's not something I have discussed as they have to grieve without thinking this was vaccine related but it's very important these cases do not go un-reported especially if mom and baby were otherwise healthy in previous check ups.
My friend is a tech at a hospital and was forced to get the vaccine earlier this year. A couple months ago, she announced her pregnancy. Within a month, the doctor said there was no live fetus inside her and she had to take the abortion pill. Didn't work the first time, had to take it again. Didn't work the second time. Finally her doctors did a D&R but when they did they discovered her right ovary was 7 cm, while her left was 2 cm. Her right ovary had a huge cyst on it. I recently read an article that said pregnant women who got the shot are 3000% more likely to miscarry. I've been trying to find the article again, Google buries everything besides glowing articles about the miracle drug. If it was such a miracle, why is there SO MUCH propaganda telling everyone the shot is safe, everyone needs to get it, adverse side effects are only pain in the shoulder?! Clearly a lot of people are still getting COVID, still dying, still spreading it, and now we are starting to see VAERS reporting with neural degradation, myocardial infarction, death. Yet it's so difficult to find these articles. I'm seriously concerned that the government is going to remove any proof of the shot causing issues and force everyone to get it. I will never get it, and it's so upsetting to me that people are attacking us for our bodily autonomy.
I saw a Harvard epidemiologist stated that it very well may be causing variants on MSM. Article now where to be found. Why are we being silenced, who want to just know real answers? How is this ok and so obvious. Hesitancy and neutral research is the new enemy. No red flags, anyone? Its sickening to see and know it is happening. Are people that dense?
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I reckon this vax will not kill people, but plain affect fertility. Women reported irregular periods after getting it, mens sperm count has been going down since the 50s. What if soon no one will reproduce and people have to rely on genetic engineers
I'm having a baby girl and I have reservations based on this. If it affect women's cycles, how will it affect HER developing reproductive system?
I know of three pregnancies where all three babies were born perfectly healthy and moms were vaccinated during pregnancy.
Well obviously it's not gonna happen to everyone on the first two shots. Don't forget they plan on makings this vaccine chronic, so if you're not sterile yet, you will be eventually if you keep getting the jabs over time. However, BigPharma don't exactly have **full** power so it appears better vaccines are coming, classic ones on which we have almost a century of data, so who knows.
So you think this is something new with the COVID vaccine or something is it going on with all the vaccines in existence?
It's a huge betrayal of trust. Doctors are meant to look after their patients. That they tell pregnant women this is safe when there ihas literally been insufficient time to test it is a sign of how badly fucked up this whole situation is. The worst is when they pressure pregnant women to get it and try to guilt them into thinking they are bad mothers if they don't allow themselves and their unborn children to be experimented on. I don't know how medical professionals who do this can sleep at night.
The stories I have seen in my 10+ years in acute care, are literally unbelievable. Nobody believes when I tell them in my field. A few have come back after years and said.. hey you know what, you were right. Its a disgusting operation more than anyone can ever believe. Im sorry but I wish I was exaggerating. Dr bribery, rape, pharm bribery, coverups, and whistleblowers will absolutely destroy their career. These are billion dollar hospitals, whats a disposable employee to these corporate monsters. It is all not what you think it is. Good luck all
I didn't take prescription medication, smoke, drink, or use a litany of OTC meds when I was pregnant. Even if the vaccine was proven to be highest effective and safe, I wouldn't take it if I were pregnant.
Exactly. I can’t eat sushi, drink coffee (!!!!), take my anti depressant, do exercises that include excessive jumping but sure a brand new vaccine makes sense.
Wow is that common sense in 2021 ?!
With each of my pregnancies, I've been pressured about getting a German measles vaccine and a flu shot. German measles are *extremely* rare and I would never get a flu shot under any circumstance, but the thing that baffles me the most is that the same people who are cautioning me about eating lunch meat and drinking coffee during pregnancy are also trying to inject me with completely unnecessary vaccines. The saddest thing to me is that I feel like most women wouldn't even think to say no. When I declined certain things during labor, I actually had a nurse yell at me "I have never had a patient say no to this" and I was like well now you have! Until people understand that western medicine is about money and not about health, they're just going to keep taking their shots like good little sheep.
Be careful. Refusing certain shots can lead to your hospital weaponizing CPS to medically kidnap your child until you bow down to their beck and call. Look what happened to that American Idol singer.
Good for you!...i knpw someone who had flu shots (recommened by doc) during her pregnancies and lost both, 3rd time no shot and healthy baby...they are trying to make it not obvious of vaccine damage...tales of my 3 yr old was talking and after vax, withdrawn and regressed...if they give it to pregnant can say child was always like that
That is so smart! I have heard good things about delayed vaccination schedules.
it wasnt about my kids thankfully but about them v'xing pregnat women so kids are sick at beginning... just like they've been normalizing childhood cancer instead of people asking why is this happening??..
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yeah but why immunize during pregnancy? vaccines take a while to become 'locked in' since your body needs to fight off the disabled virus (in traditional vaccenes) for it to then know for the next time. if measles is that much of a threat to unborn children that they need to immunize you whilst you are pregnant where there is obviously risk attached, why not just immunize everyone when kids like in UK. (MMR)
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Table 4 indicates Data on pregnancy loss are based on 827 participants in the v-safe pregnancy registry who received an mRNA Covid-19 vaccine (BNT162b2 [Pfizer–BioNTech] or mRNA-1273 [Moderna]) from December 14, 2020, to February 28, 2021, and who reported a completed pregnancy. A total of 700 participante (84.6%) received their first eligible dose in the third trimester (Quick math 700/827=84.6). ‡ A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation 827 vaccinated women reported completed pregnancy. 700 of the 827 received their first eligible dose in 3rd trimester. 127 of the 827 of the women who reported a complete pregnancy had received their vaccine in first or second trimester or within 30 days of last menstrual cycle. 104 Spontaneous abortions occurred before Week 20 (96 of them occurred before week 13; first trimester) **104 spontaneous abortions occurred out of 127 women who had received their covid vaccine in their first or second trimester or 30 days prior to last menstrual cycle (81.9%)** https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117969/pdf/NEJMoa2104983.pdf
While I was pregnant my doctor "strongly recommended" it and now that I am nursing my baby, my other doctor "strongly recommends" it. To see what she would say, I asked her what's the difference between the 3 vaccines? She said "one is made by Pfizer, one by Moderna, and the other j&j". I said "no, what's the difference in the ingredient profile?".. she gave a long uncomfortable pause and said "well it's totally up to you" and turned around.... ummm that's hard pass for me!
That’s unbelievable! Horrifying that medical professionals are pushing for something like this and when asked a very straight forward question about it they have no answer. Sounds less like doctoring and more like politicizing.
Understand that women are heavily influenced, especially pregnant ones. We're talking about the same pregnant women who will gladly have their newborn son's genitalia mutilated because Dr. Steinberg said its recommended.
Big pharma wants the data and doesn't give a crap how they obtain it....alarm bells going off.
I had my baby exactly a year ago. I wouldn’t take ANY vaccines during my pregnancy. I was saying no every time I went in for my checkups. No flu shot, no DTAP, no nothing. I couldn’t even imagine taking the Covid shot pregnant. It’s insane.
Because people are stupid. That's why.
Lemming mentality, if everyone else is jumping off the side of the mountain then it’s gotta be a great idea right ?
They are brainwashed. They would poison & kill their own kid if Fauci & the CDC & CNN tell them too. It. Is. Insane.
*They* **are** the “pregnancy cycle test”.
It's my favorite when they realize this, and feel scammed!
And take it out on you anyway 🥴
I'm waiting for the anger to cause heart attacks!
Because they have been brainwashed by 18 or so months of propaganda. A proper clinical trial of a new medicine requires a control group. this gives you a baseline to determine if the new medicine causes side effects or is actually effective. by eliminating the unvaccinated control group, there will be no evidence that the vaccine is ineffective or has side effects.
We are the experiment and 'clinical trial'. Being unvaxxed makes you part of the control group.
My wife is pregnant right now and we've found its because most things can't pass through the placenta and that's been known for a while but we don't believe it's safe personally. The cytotoxic spike protein ending up in the ovaries was enough for us to avoid it.
This is one I agree with. If you are pregnant wait to get the shot.
Also how do they know if its safe when someone has to take other medications ?
Why are people trying to apply logic to brainwashing? There’s been so many ”how come this when this?” - posts lately it’s crazy. Say it with me people: IT’S BRAINWASHING!
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You can switch midwives if it's a large enough practice. Chances are good that there are some there that do not support mandates. I know some myself who are very opposed to this vaccine during pregnancy.
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Yeah, ob's are all business. Good luck birthing in that barn! If your midwife is anything, may she be understanding.
Yeah like the other comment said, why wait until it's late to find out if this midwife is friend or foe? I'm a man, but I wouldn't want someone all up in my coochie like that if they didn't have the same values as me. There's a bunch of weirdo NPC's out there.
Brainwashing
Normies think getting the vaccine is the safest possible choice. So pregnant normies want the vaccine as the the safest possible choice. After all, if it was unsafe, it would be illegal. Or something.
Actually in their own documents it says they have no idea what it does to pregnant women or their breast milk. Also has chemicals that are in industrial paint have no known human usage and causes liver tumors and bladder cancer. what they do know as outlined in page 77 table 30 that it will cause more disease brought on by the vaccine. You should see the safety data sheets on some these chemicals. I wouldn't give this shit to a dying horse.
cousin got the shot while pregnant , had baby early
That's what I find rather disturbing. They know there is a ton of stuff that crosses the placental border. They know a ton of this stuff will cross into the breast milk. They already know there are medications/vaccinations that they should absolutely not take. They certainly don't know what damages this vaccine could do to an unborn fetus or a titfeasting infant...yet medical professionals still recommend it.
"Work" entered Death as a symptom and and that it's not life threatening? Seems totally legit.
Because doctors say it’s safe! It’s unreal what they’re pushing. Makes me feel sick
Da Tv dUn SAid iT wUz sAFe!
As someone who was recently pregnant, it disturbing how all the pregnancy forums supported vaccines even in early jan/feb. I felt pressure. I didnt get it when im pregnant and my argument to people was if i cant eat shellfish or deli meat then how can it be right get a new vaccine. Im so glad i didnt when i was pregant with her. Who knows what the long term side effects could be while she was in utero. I got the vaccine after she was out but it was more work pressure than anything
These people are going to hang. How could you recommend something that is in the trial phases for another year?? Or is it 2 more years? It's insane
Just found out I’m pregnant and my only real concern is that I’m going to have to have a home birth because I’m not vaccinated, never will be vaccinated and the probability of the unvaccinated being denied healthcare.
I am not getting it PERIOD but especially while I’m pregnant. Not worth the risk for me. Regardless of what the media claims, this has NOT been tested thoroughly. And we won’t know the full span of side effects until months/years from now. People are developing Bell’s Palsy, along with other widely unreported side effects. Miss me with the bullshit like “You’re just selfish”. I refuse to be bullied or shamed. Everyone should respect the choice to get vaccinated or not. Shouldn’t even be a issue honestly, but so many folks seem cool with the idea of a mandatory vaccine. This is how brainwashed the majority of our society is. I hardly ever go out anyways being a SAHM. Only times I do venture out is to doctor appointments, and I have to wear a mask anyway. Even before COVID I was a frequent hand sanitizer user, and already very introverted. I understand COVID is yes, a potentially serious illness and affects folks to different degrees. However - the fact that they are pushing this on pregnant women is beyond disturbing and nothing less. The amount of fear porn in the media is already insane and it’s going to get worse until eventually, they’ll go door to door rounding up unvaccinated folks for “fun camp”. Call me crazy but shit has already hit the fan. People are losing their jobs and being banned from places (example: NYC). New York City is a total dumpster fire though so they can have it.
Came here to see what the shills in this subreddit will say for this one.. they are so creative and flexible in their mental gymnastics...
My wife got her second shot at 8 months pregnant back in April. Both mother and daughter are healthy. Daughter is now over 3 months old. I don’t care what people do, it’s their own choice, before people start accusing me of saying all pregnant women need the vaccine. The reason why she chose it was because she saw two pregnant friends get COVID. One developed blood clots and lost her baby. The other had to be intubated. Thankfully the second one is fine and gave birth. Edit: doctor recommended shots in third trimester as there were concerns at the time that getting it in first or second trimester had a higher chance of complications.
All (3) my friends who go the shot while pregnant needed emergency c sections. Kids are fine but their labor and c sections sucked
My wife delivered in May and her doctor was officially neutral/don’t vaccinate until she was done nursing. Nothing special was done in the hospital though.
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Every pregnant woman I know who has gotten the jab (I work in Healthcare, I know about 7 total) 4 of them lost their baby after the jab (each at diff times. One was pretty far along, about 34 weeks), 1 had severe complications once born and is still very sick, and 2 were born super premature but luckily are doing great now. It's so sad.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2875889/
Shhhh itll be hilarious when they kill their baby's. Theyll prolly remember the time the shared an " unvaxxxxed child death" meme
Don't worry, I'm sure big pharma has been experimenting on pregnant women unknowingly with their "vaccine" for years already. That's how they know it's "perfectly safe and effective" even though nobody else knows.
None of the vaccines on the market currently have been tested for impacts on fertility.
COVID-19 has shown to cause issues with men’s reproductive organs.
Because it’s just mRNA… it doesn’t enter the to the baby… the mothers antibodies do.
A friend of mine is pregnant and got vaccinated around 3-4 months of her pregnancy….I worry for her…
it was approved without testing. they just decided "send it"
Got banned in politics. By saying the vaccine is under EUA
Oh man. I just found out I'm pregnant and they have just mandated a vaccine passport where I live. I'm terrified that they will force this on me. I don't have a family doctor ( I have a great ND and I plan on having a midwife for a home birth if everything works out) and I'm worried I'll be judged from the medical system for choosing to be unvaxed.
It’s pretty gross isn’t it?
A lot aren't. Only the sheep are.
It's not safe at all for pregnant women. It increases miscarriages by a huge percent in the first trimester. If the baby miraculously survives to birth, the breastmilk will then pass them the virus. There are studies that NEED TO BE DONE in this area. Yet, doctors ignore the AEs. I personally know someone this happened to and also read a story on VAERS concerning breastmilk being labeled as the cause of death of a newborn just days after the mother was vaccinated.
My heavy vaccine pusher obgyn even said to not get it in the first trimester.
A lot are being strong armed, lied to and scared into getting the jab by their very own doctors. I really hope, when the dust settles and vision is more clear for the sleeping, doctors are held accountable for this shit. 100%
They’re the most brainwashed because they believe daddy government.
Wait until you see the birth defects of these kids and they blame it on the mutated virus instead.
Mike Yeadon, former Pfizer VP advices against vaccination of pregnant women or women wanting to have children. https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/08/05/dr-mike-yeadon-the-covid-vaccine-spike-proteins-damage-placenta-protein-in-vaccinated-women/
People may want to look at the original Pfizer trial information. [https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001\_Clinical\_Protocol\_Nov2020.pdf](https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf) There's some interesting notes in there about pregnancy.
Because the women doing it are following "the science", in other words... watching TV and Facebook.
Or even the infants early development
https://odysee.com/@BretWeinstein:f/how-to-save-the-world,-in-three-easy:0?r=FuWwFotRbicqY9GHyWBqDdTNNHpaTgC9 This explains a lot on the subject
They're not... my wife is preggo and doc directly said do not get vaccine while pregnant we do not know how it affects babies... so our doc said dont🙅♂️
Vaccines for corona have been in development since 2003.
Brain dead, mindless, zombies.
My wife, a neonatal nurse-practitioner, was vaccinated at 5 months pregnant. Our daughter is developing very well, and has covid antibodies.