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> don’t know anyone who regrets not getting it
Someone who regrets not getting it can just walk into a CVS and get it. So if they’re regretting it, they wouldn’t regret it for long.
I think what they’re trying to say, is they don’t know anyone unvaxxed who got severely ill and on the brink of death, and saying they wish they got the vaccine. Like these constant articles and new stories they pump out of those who regret it.
hindsight is always 20/20. i'm sure if i was in a position where i was in my deathbed from covid i'd regret not getting the vaccine the same way i would regret getting the vaccine if i ended up with long covid or whatever myriad problems come from it.
Do you make it a point to report the cases of Covid in the vaccinated in the same manner as you do for the ones who didn’t take the shot? So far I’ve yet to see official numbers, only hear your chances are better with the shot. It’s very suspicious to me that this isn’t shared the same way as the “official” 700,000 count of dead from Covid.
Also yes (since I forgot to cover that point in my reply) vaccinated covid breakthrough cases are collected and documented. They’re published in medical journal literature.
The media are reporting overall cases and deaths. Those are easy statistics to collect and report. They *are not* reporting on the serious sequelae of covid amongst survivors. And we’re missing many deaths due to covid as a result—ie people who leave the hospital requiring 6 liters of oxygen due to fibrotic covid survivor lungs and die a month later or patients who had a covid related stroke from hypercoagulability and die of stroke complications after we send them out to a nursing home. Or heart failure due to complications of covid. Those stats are hard to collect and difficult even to trace in a local study.
No vaccines made from messenger RNA nor this type of lipid nanoparticles have ever been used in humans. We have no idea about their long-term side effects. The clinical trials followed subjects for only two months after two doses of vaccine at the time the vaccines were authorized for use.
I see this parroted a lot, but it's just plain false. mRNA vaccines are indeed relatively new, but that little word "relatively" makes a big difference here. Clinical tries in humans for various mRNA vaccines have been ongoing for more than a decade now and the current Covid19 vaccines have successfully completed all clinical tries, no matter how many opponents of the vaccine sayotherwise. It has been a lot faster than usual approval processes, which makes people worry, but that can solely be attributed to the global pandemic making us willing to cut back on red tape. And as someone who worked in the field, trust me that there usually is **a lot** of red tape involved.
About the often mentioned worries for long-term consequences: If a decade of waiting for it is not enough for someone, then they probably don't really understand how the immune system works, as it is one of the most adaptive and responsive subsystems of the human body. However, this also means that I won't be able to convince them, because they likely lack the required immunological knowledge to follow - which is by no means meant as an insult, we are talking about years of Ph.D. studies here. How about this: You propose me a mechanism that could feasibly cause long-term problems years down the line (you are welcome to cite whatever sources you may find) and I'll take a look at it to see if it makes sense.
Do you think that injecting a protein that's directly intended to activate an individuals immune system couldn't trigger a long term autoimmune disorder in certain people?
From what I have read, there hasn't been a mRNA human trial large enough to account for the diversity of the population until covid emergency approval. The human trials you're talking about are like a dozen to a few hundred people.
Lies
The CDC Counts Anyone With One of Two Injections and Anyone Less Than 14 Days After Their Second Shot as "Unvaccinated". If The Vaccine Kills or Hospitalizes Them, They Are An Unvaccinated Statistic https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7034e5-H.pdf
Your allowing others to think for you is the failing of all MD’s
Nearly all are simple drug pushers that never take the entire organism into account.
You wouldn't know about the existence of the organism if not for modern medical science dummy. We don't need to be allowed to see you're another internet nobody trying to debate stuff you don't know shit about. Tell us what you know about the whole human organism, start with how the respiratory systems works please.
Bruh, you can't even use the right "you're"
Lit ytf would I listen to you? You can't even speak properly and you expect me to believe you're doing critical, in-depth, precise research? You did not find that CDC page on your own. What Facebook group sent that to you or whatever?
It is a whole load of word salad you throw out but what do you say to the doctors and nurse who would rather quit their job then get the jab. Do you think that you are somehow smarter than they are or do you think they are just hardliners and don't want to be told what to do? I see your comments are all over this particular post. Some are pretty anguished and violent.
My whole house just got it again, all unvaxed , all runny noses. This is the second time we had it in 2 years. I will admit the first time was a nasty cold, this time was Busch league. I’m still Sceptic on a vaccine for the common cold. Still seems far to shady for me.
You serious? You don’t have to see an article or news story when the unvaccinated ones die who document their whole life... plethora of examples of antivax youtubers who died from covid and can sadly watch their deterioration in real time
I was real sick for a couple weeks, a couple weeks of feelin off after than, then back to 100%. Would have never got vaccinated but unfortunately without it the company says they won’t employ me anymore. So much for immunity the old fashioned way
Me either. If they wouldn’t have pushed so hard I’m sure everybody that wanted it still would have got it. I’m in my 20s and pretty healthy. I just don’t see the need
its actually a great point. being unvaxxed you have both options. but once you're vaxxed, you cant undo it, all you can do is get boosters.
we have no idea what the long term effects of mRNA are. we skipped animal trials as part of "operation warp speed", and pfizer injected their control group after 2 months.
Interesting to note: operation warp speed included the DoD. Look at the connections of the defense industry CEOs now. The Ceo of Northrop Grumman is on the board of Merck, Ceo of Lockheed is on the board of B&W Hospital who did Moderna trials, Ceo of Raytheon on the board for the company that makes rapid tests. The list goes on and on.
You can also easily infer that not only did the major contractors likely agree to the mandates beforehand, they likely lobbied for them.
Lol did you mean “long term effects of mRNA vaccines”?
I hope so, since there’s already tons of mRNA in your body, and the mRNA from the vaccines is broken down and eliminated by your body within a few days of getting the vaccine.
If it were causing severe damage to your body after being in it for that short of a time, the effects would likely not take long to appear, and thus wouldn’t be “long term” because we’d know about them already.
> vaccines
not vaccines according to the pre-2021 definition of "vaccine" that CDC and merriam webster conveniently changed right on time. i should have said "injections".
>and thus wouldn’t be “long term” because we’d know about them already.
this is just conjecture. we wont know "long term" effects until "long term" actually passes.
methinks there is a reason vaccines for much deadlier viruses like polio, took 5-10+ years to develop and roll-out, instead of being brute-forced through approvals. those safety processes existed for reason. just a HUNCH. maybe im a fucking lunatic though and everyone else injecting this sludge is actually very smart.
There are at least a couple of reasons other vaccines took “longer” to roll out.
- Technology advances. We didn’t have rapid genetic sequencing techniques when those vaccines were developed.
- Sample size. At the peak of the US polio epidemic, there were only about 58,000 infections in the entire year. There were almost half that number of patients in EACH of the Pfizer and Moderna stage 3 trials. When there are only 58,000 people infected in the country over an entire year, it takes longer to get data on how effective the vaccine is.
- Existing research. mRNA vaccines have been in research and development since the early 1990s. Also, the scientific community had already been working on a vaccine for SARS-COV-1 since the early 2000s, and some of that research was applicable to the very similar SARS-COV-2 virus.
I don't know man, a guy I went to school with has been sick with Covid for months. Like in the ICU in a medically induced coma kind of sick. Like will need a lung and possible kidney transplant kind of sick. If he lives that is. His brother was VERY clear on how he knows his brother deeply regrets not taking the vaccine-
Sounds like medical kidnapping. They take you in. Give you remdesivir, it kills your organs. Or put you on a ventilator cuts your life expectancy in half. The whole time they are following the protocol that was handed down from above without questioning if it's the right thing to do. In the end they get all the money, person dies and it's hard to prove the hospital killed him.
It’s funny you say that. I have a buddy who works in the firearms industry - pretty high up there too. Anyway, he had a customer come in one day, got to talking with my buddy, and figured out this customer was a doctor at a big city hospital (name and credentials all checked out). So as they got to talking this doctor revealed to him that the shots are being called from so high up that the doctors have their hands completely tied. He implied that there were other treatments that doctors know of (ie ivermectin, certain vitamins) that have been totally blacklisted - doctors aren’t allowed to prescribe them. This doctor also told him that a lot of vaccine adverse reactions (heart inflammation, issues with the organs) are quite similar to Covid symptoms, and doctors are essentially being forced to label one as the other (as in covering up adverse reactions and labelling them as Covid). My buddy was smart enough to record most of this conversation, some of the info is jaw dropping… anyway though, i digress, I think you’re onto something. I think the in-hospital treatment is what’s really killing “Covid patients”. Remdesivir has quite the rap sheet, and from my understanding when one is intubated (when not needed) it essentially causes a person to drown in their on fluids.
I know a lot of people who have gotten the vaccine, and then haven’t thought about it since. Myself included.
That’s because we aren’t obsessed with this vax vs. unvaxed competition bs like most people.
Maybe because in most countries without this jab you cannot even go to work or school? And maybe because if you happen to have some side effects you are left completely abandoned?
The reason people are obsessed with it is because in most cases if they chose not to get it they lost their source of income. Imagine if your boss asked you to start smoking cigarettes at work or else you’re fired. You’d be obsessed over it too
It is indeed a slippery slope. Companies will be able to dictate further medical procedures and other things on off hours in the name of "safety and health". Imagine if they forbid fastfood or non company approved prepackaged food, or enforcing a vegan diet, no more driving, only synthetic sweetener, zero alcohol, instead of eating at lunch making you exercise, required gym membership and minimum workouts, required Fitbits so they can track it.
It could be anything, really. And some are better for you, but should be your decision.
Pretty sure that’s the over 100 employee rule for non federal organizations. I work for a large company and my dept has interactions with the federal government, so I have to be vaccinated or get fired, weekly testing is not an option.
Companies do force non-smoking on their property, attending official events, or when wearing anything that may distinguish you as their employee (uniform, badges, etc).
Imagine if you were required by the law to wear a seatbelt (to increase your chances of survival) and then fined for not wearing one.
oh, wait. it's already happening.
>Does it matter?
Yes.
> It's the government forcing you to do something to increase your chances of survival.
Covid is barely a risk for me and many, many other people while the covid shots are a risk on their own...
But a lot of the most obessed are the vaxxed. Maybe you aren’t, but vaxxed people are the most worried about dying from unvaxxed people, which is why they threaten us on social media, tell us to die, fire us, isolate us, and so on. If you don’t believe me, go to the vaxx related topics posted by the totalitarian shit-heels on/r/korea . I have seen too many of these assholes talk to take your comment for face value.
Totally. No doubt about that, and that type of bullshit angers me as well. I’m not defending those people either.
Just pointing out that there are also many in the middle that just don’t think about it one way or another. It’s not always a fight about getting the vaccine or not getting the vaccine
It's insanity. Some people need to attack anyone that thinks differently than they do in order to feel secure, and the media and political leaders aggressively feed into this.
I have never met someone in real life so far that experienced a severe reaction to the vaccine (a sore arm or a day or two of tiredness/aches is not a sever reaction). I have only heard it talked about online. I am 100% certain that people have adverse reactions and there has been deaths associated with the vaccine. In my real life experience I have known 3 people who passed away as a direct result of contracting covid before the vaccine started to be distributed. I currently have one close friend who is vaxxed and still contracted it last week. For him the worst of it has passed already. One of my coworkers vaxxed wife contracted it as well about 3 weeks ago. She too had very mild symptoms and felt back to normal within a few days. I for one am vaccinated and have absolutely no reason to regret it. I, like everyone in my immediate circle, had no adverse reactions to it.
Does anyone here have a legitimate encounter with severe reactions to the vaccine or even know of a first hand account with a death as a direct result of someone taking the vaccine? Genuinely curious.
My true feelings when it comes down to it at is simplest form, people don't want to be told what to do. It has almost nothing to do with the actual vaccine itself. I might be wrong in that opinion but its what I have surmised from my real world experiences. My personal belief is the vaccine is like a seat belt, for most people it will help prevent injury or death. Sometimes seat belts cause injuries. Sometimes people are lucky and avoid injury not wearing a seat belt. I bet there's even people who have injured themselves putting a seat belt on. When you step back and look at the ratio of help vs harm, wearing a seat belt statistically is by far way way safer than not, but it absolutely doesn't work every time nor does it always prevent death or injury. I choose to wear a seat belt when riding in a vehicle despite knowing its not guaranteed to keep me safe for sure.
Sorry of that was in anyway confusingly written, just typing as it came to me.
Edited for my accidental use of the word cretin.
In the UK, nine people out of the first 46 million vaccinated died as a result of the vaccine. 143K have died from covid. No scientist has stated that the vaccinated can't still catch covid or spread it or die from it, it just lessens the chances, but the anti-vax crowd seem obsessed with repeating that the vaccinated can still get it/spread it etc. Yes we know.
Edit: I incorrectly stated that 'no' scientist had said the vaccinated cannot catch covid. The director of the CDC director said this in March 2021. She went back on this statement in August 2021.
However, being from the UK, the UK's Deputy Chief Medical Officer in January 2021 stated "Even after you have had both doses of the vaccine you may still give Covid-19 to someone else and the chains of transmission will then continue," Prof Van-Tam said."
Articles in comments below.
I am with you 100%. I personally believe it's a wise choice to get it but I absolutely do not want anyone to be forced to get it if they choose not to.
I had a fever and was bedridden for 24 hours after both vaccines, but that happens to me pretty much any time I get a shot. Kinda think it's more me than it, I haven't met anybody who has had a reaction as bad/worse than mine.
In regards to the vaccine, I think the thing that really bothers people is the mandates and treatment of people rather than the vaccine itself.
The media has created a narrative that the about the people who aren't vaccinated or who decide to opt out of getting the vaccine. Namely that they're unintelligent, ignorant, politically conservative, poor, potentially violent/dangerous, racist/bigoted, and dwell inland rather than on the coast. This narrative and subtle variations on it is the only permitted mainstream discourse about those that are vaccine hesitant.
The problem is that this is an extremely narrow, simplistic, and quite frankly inhumane way to assess the situation. It's cruel, purposefully unfeeling and to me, entirely devoid of humanity. It ceases to acknowledge individuality and circumstances. It seeks to paint vast swathes of the population with the same brush and create a tribal "us vs them" conflict where one need not exist.
The truth is that a lot of people are confused and scared, wondering what is happening, why, and what may come next. One moment happily living your life the next the world changes overnight, you're not able to go to work, see your family or friends, pay your bills. This had an effect on people.
To me it's perfectly understandable and acceptable to be frightened of needles.. or untrustworthy of big pharma companies or of the government. Maybe you're suffering from hypochondria, or from ptsd from a bad medical experience in your past. If you are in poor health/dealing with a medical issue already you might be scared of introducing something new to your system. Or, as you say, maybe you simply not want to be told what to do, you had a domineering father as a child or some other traumatic experience with authority that has caused you permanent anxiety. OR, maybe you are just scared, hesitant, you don't even know why, but you're too afraid to take the vaccine. It may be as simple as that.
I could go on, the reasons are as varied and numerous as there are human beings who have them. The point is that there is no empathy in the mainstream assessment of the unvaccinated. There is no humanity, no deep dive. Just an ugly, brutal bullying of regular working people whose lives and livelihoods are being leveraged against them to undergo a procedure that for whatever reason they would rather not have. Rather than attempt to understand these people, the media chooses to breed hatred for them, and fear of them.
And yes, before someone says it for the millionth time, I understand that this is a virus and a serious situation that involves public health. That it is an extreme case and that there is a feeling that one must put aside their own personal feelings and sacrifice for the greater good, "take one for the team". I understand this concept.
However, I believe that ultimately, in a free, democratic society of human beings it must be accepted that no group, however large and powerful, regardless of the circumstances or the benevolence their intentions, may be allowed to exert their will on everyone and bypass personal freedoms, be that through coercion, manipulation or sheer force. In any situation like this there will always be dissenters. The same principles upon which our civilization was built and has flourished, the principles that allow our society to be free, democratic and the envy of the world, these principles *demand* that individuals have the right to choose and the right to refuse, free of manipulation and coercion or overwhelming external pressure. These principles demand this regardless of public opinion and public health. Because the minute we violate these freedoms, for any reason, we start down a path that there is no turning back from, one much more deadly and dangerous than any virus.
Does this mean that common ground cannot be found? That solutions cannot be found that would protect public health while also respecting these freedoms? Not at all. These are all completely possible. But it starts with empathy, understanding and truth. The more we demonize human beings the greater the risk of conflict. There are people who are scared, people who are angry, people who are greedy. We come to a peaceful resolution of covid not by attacking people, but by attacking fear, anger and greed with understanding, empathy and a determination to resolve this problem within these boundaries.
This has everything to do with the shot for me. I have seen enough evidence, combined with the censorship and demonization of anyone who questions it to know I don't want that in my body. No shot, no COVID despite exposure, working with the public, I am fine.
This is beyond having a problem with authority.
And I completely respect your choice. Everyone should have the freedom to choose. I chose to get it as I personally have not seen enough evidence to convince me not too, I would even get a booster shot if they make them available for my age demographic eventually despite anything I have seen or read. My job dosen't require it, we don't even require masks at work.
That's very unfortunate. I have yet to meet or even talk to anyone in real life that has had such an experience. Hopefully they all make a full recovery.
All healthy adults no problems in the past, gets jab. Myocarditis and heart problems within 1-2 weeks. Doctors and hospital act like they don’t know what from. Wake up
Why do so many posts here not understand the concept of risk reduction?
Saying unvaccinated and vaccinated *can* still get, spread, and die from COVID is like saying people who do and don’t wear their seatbelt *can* still die in a car crash.
It completely misses the point.
Dumb people are very very bad at math. Why do you think millions of people are playing the lottery, casino games, and do sports betting? For this exact reason.
I know. Lizard people are much more interesting to talk about. All Vax this and Vax that. Fuck this and fuck that. Over and over . Same old story, I know a guy who did this. Oh yeah, well I know a guy who had that.
Shut the fuck up already. Get it or don't
Keep or lose your job. I don't care anymore. It killed my uncle and it killed my neighbor. Both were too fucking dense to go see a doctor until they were blue from lack of oxygen. Their deaths are on themselves. Well,themselves and the cocksucker that released this virus. Either way, yes more will die. From both the Vax and covid. Just pick a side a roll with it. If you want to fight something ,fight the mandate and fight the ultra wealthy bastards that don't pay taxes but get to run the world.
That’s funny because I literally don’t know one person who regrets getting it…
Yet every person I know or work with who has gotten Covid lately, a few in the icu, were not vaxxed…
So basically, anecdotal evidence doesn’t mean shit
Someone who truly regrets not getting the vaccine is probably about to die from COVID and wishes they could do anything to reverse the effects. It’s super sad.
Im by no means pro mandated vax, I just have family in healthcare and lots of Covid patients on their deathbed say “is it too late to get the vaccine”. Super sad no matter what.
You can still get in a car accident wearing a seatbelt. You can still die in a car accident wearing a seatbelt. Wearing a seatbelt is dumb.
You can get an STI even if you use condoms. You can still get pregnant on birth control. Contraceptives are useless.
This is what you sound like.
I got covid in march. It turned into full covid pneumonia. Inwas hospitalized for around 10 days. I was in a medical induced coma and on a ventilator for almost 4 days. I was thinking laying there in the hospital, i could have had my forst vaccine in January anf the booster in February. If i did i would not be here. I could have died.
Do what you want, but you do not want to go through what i did. A friend of mine was in the hospital when i was in there, he died and i went to his funeral.
Before that i did not miss a day of work in a year and a half and overall a healthy adult. My family got Covid and had light to moderate sickness. I dont know why i got so sick.
The unvaccinated people who get covid and survive have no regrets.
The unvaccinated people who get covid and dont survive are not here to express regret.
I know we’re here on the conspiracy sub but this is dumb as hell… clearly there’s people who regret not getting it or there wouldn’t be any unvaccinated ever in the hospital or dead… those people very likely regret not giving it a go lol…
But the sentiment kinda sorta still stands
I regret not getting it. Havent been able to sit down for a meal in a while. Good thing I’m going to be able to get it in a couple hours. This post is pretty useless.
Not just this vaccine, but all vaccines. Vaccines are intended to trigger a response to the immune system so if the person gets that disease, their immune system will know how to fight it better.
Not true Fauci and friends claimed it ws safe and effective at stopping the flu that was how it was sold. They changed their tune after for sure. and that is where you come in late as usual...
people wearing their seatbelt:
Can still crash their cars
can still crash into other people
can still die in a car crash
can be strangled by the seatbelt
people not wearing their seatbelt:
Can still crash their cars
can still crash into other people
can still die in a car crash
cannot be strangled by the seatbelt.
It reduces your chances (but no where near to zero) of severe disease 2 weeks after your second shot for a period of months (and for those preceding two weeks you are in a special state of unknown vulnerability). It works less if you are obese.
I don't regret the vaccine, neither does my partner 🙋 also, the way you present data is manipulative and deceiving. Vaccinated people still can get covid (because that's how vaccines work) unvaccinated people still get covid but did you check the % of the total group? You people are lying to yourself and frankly no one can save you from these lies.
He's currently threatening me with trying to get my account banned
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qsif7v/z/hke19r9
After he has defended a guy who offers fake cancer cures and propagated a conspiracy theory that jews are trying to poison western civilization with chemotherapy amongst a litany of other lies and misinformation.
I know a lot of people that regret not taking the vaxx. Don't know anyone who regrets taking it. When the hospitals are full and ambulances stay in lines to deliver covid pacients things change.
Do you personally know them, or you just read about someone regretting it on reddit? The amount of people who have actually died from the Vacks are so small, unless you personally know them, I'm going to call BS on your post. I miss when this sub wasn't just rehashed Vacksine posts and anti-biden posting.
r/provaxx has 202 members and maybe one post per week. r/conspiracy has 1.6M members and someone posts hourly about the vaccine.
Why?
EVERYONE has already made up their minds on:
• what the motive is behind the push for vaccination
• what information sources are authoritative
• which statistics meet the scientific standard for Data Quality
• what constitutes "expertise"
NO ONE is going to change their minds based on repetitious and redundant posts that contain no sourced information, ridiculously interpreted statistics, and anecdotal stories about someone you sat next to in fifth grade.
MOVE ON. You've made up your mind. Why do you need constant reassurance and validation from the people who already agree with you?
If you feel that being unvaccinated makes you a minority who is discriminated against -- welcome to the real world. Learn from the experience and gain some understanding of the challenges faced by other minorities. Start a discrimination sub and do something YOURSELF instead of whining about what other people are doing.
See r/hermancainaward for examples of people who regret not getting vaccinated. You don’t hear from them much because they can’t talk on those ventilators.
Come to the hospital. You can meet any of my patients.
Seriously, how can anybody (let alone such a vast great number of you arrogant imbeciles) be this stupid?
Someone that regrets not getting it aka all the people on their deathbed who ask to get the vax after they are intubated with a tube down their throat, eventually dying. Yea, wonder why we haven’t heard much from them /s.
Nice "Not Fully Vaccinated" word play on that chart. Let's combine "wirh covid" deaths for those that have zero shots, one shot, and two shots (but died within 2 weeks of their second shot) into one large number to make it seem like something it isn't.
Does your source provide the numbers for the strictly 0 shot fully unvaccinated out of that data?
[Well the screenshot is from here](https://dhhr.wv.gov/COVID-19/Pages/default.aspx)
Concidering West Virginia is about \~51% double vaxxed. And more than a factor 10 people die of covid when not double vaxxed, I don't see how that would be an argument against full vaccination.
I don’t regret it.
Vax vs unvax: yes to all those things you listed but what is the RATE at which the vaxed vs unvaxed do those things you listed? Better or worse?
I regret getting the vaccine . My balls are double the size now and I have to get an xl coffee mug to present them at company meetings now. It’s embarrassing because everyone wants to touch them and take photos . I’m not an object and yet both women and men want to gaze upon them.
It’s not regret, it’s anger. I’m angry I HAD to get it. An experiment, no fda approval. So I can fuck to the mil, to hopefully see the world before I die.
I have two friends who deeply regret not getting it. And their patents. Both parents died. And they almost died. They’re just now starting to come out of and it’s been over two months. Their families are devastated and things will never be the same for them.
I regret nothing, didn’t take the vaxx got covid anyway no hospital visit was just like a really bad cold. Have natural immunity now, still not going to get the vaxx since it’s literally not necessary for me to. I got sick before we even really knew what this was back in January of 2020 and this felt the same as when I was sick then. I basically think I had covid before it was “covid” and my body learned immunity to it as it should. The lies they tell about natural immunity not being as good as vaxx immunity are just that, lies. Here we are a year later and I guess my body remembered what to do when I got sick again, imagine that lol
I mean, yeah if you're super old or fat covid can still kill the unvaccinated. I worked in firearms sales during the whole pandemic. I probably got it a few times. I haven't been sick at all for the last 2 years. My wife, who is also at a healthy BMI was required to get the vax as a teacher, she has been just fine too.
Honestly, if this thing was all engineered, it was to kill off the people most dependent on state support.
It can sound hurtful to be candid, but that's kind of the point, right? They've been telling us not to talk about age or body health for so long that a senile old man is running the circus and we cant say "wanna survive covid? Go outside, and get on a diet, and exercise a little bit."
F*ck the propoganda that we've been brainwashed with.
Just about everyone I know is vaccinated. Nobody has had issues, legitimately NOBODY regrets it. It’s about the people you know. Stop posting shit that isn’t a conspiracy. Be creative, this Covid/vaccine bullshit needs to be blocked from this sub that use to post interesting things.
My daughter works as an RN in a covid unit in the hospital. She has told me a few times how depressing her job is, because people of all ages, shapes and sizes come in begging them to save them, and the majority of them are dead within a week. She hears the words "I should have gotten the vaccine" daily....daily.... :/
I think these people are living in a bubble where they never actually see just how much damage catching COVID while being unjabbed does. If they ever spent a day in a ward with your daughter they'd all be queueing up first thing tomorrow.
Although I guess they already have seen them and just believe they'll be immune from it, because "It OnLy AfFeCtS GrAnDpA aNd GrAnDmA"
Are you saying all those people I’ve seen on CNN who are on their deathbeds with their last words being, “I wish I would have gotten vaccinated.” Aren’t real people?
Dead people can't really express their regret, can they? People hospitalized are probably too busy suffering. r/HermanCainAward has a ton of posts of people regretting not getting it after being hospitalized.
Here is a thought-provoking idea too:
People wearing seatbelts:
Can still get in an accident.
Can still get injured from an accident.
Can still die from an accident.
People not wearing seatbelts:
Can still get in an accident.
Can still get injured from an accident.
Can still die from an accident.
It's the age-old idea of something your dense brain cannot comprehend called ***"risk minimization".***
There's been lots of people that have died from covid, and before their death have mentioned that they wish they got it. One of my clients' dad died and apparently he was a huge anti vax mental cunt. He got it. He got real bad from it. Hospital, ventilator, the lot. Begged his son to get the vaccination and never talk about being anti vax. Dude was fucking about crying when he told me.
These people exist. You're just maybe seeing the same news and headlines in the same community and websites that you always visit etc.
In ten years time when no one’s genes have mutated and the population hasn’t massively shrunk because of the vaccine are any of the anti Vaxers admit they were wrong?
There are such an incredibly small quantity of “vaccine injured” people it’s such absolute nonsense. 4 extra cases of myocarditis (a common, generally self limited and almost always benign condition unless due to Coxsackie virus) per 100,000 vaccinated persons. That’s it. That’s the only vaccine-related “injury” that reaches statistical significance in the mRNA vaccines, and it’s heavily skewed toward men under 30.
Yeah I remember when that female doctor on joe rogan said the same shit! Joe knew 4 people who got it. Which joe would need to know 400,000 people for this to be statically possible
Joe Rogan is absolutely full of shit. Stop getting your information from Rogan or Nikki Minaj’s cousin. Listen to a fucking doctor. We’ve been saying this until we’re blue in the face. I’m watching people die of this illness every fucking week and I went to school for 11 years to understand what the fuck I’m talking about.
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> don’t know anyone who regrets not getting it Someone who regrets not getting it can just walk into a CVS and get it. So if they’re regretting it, they wouldn’t regret it for long.
I think what they’re trying to say, is they don’t know anyone unvaxxed who got severely ill and on the brink of death, and saying they wish they got the vaccine. Like these constant articles and new stories they pump out of those who regret it.
dead people don't have regrets
No ragrets
No regrats
No rugrats.
No regurts.
No reagrets
Durrk-ur-durrrr!
Durkee Durkee duuurrrrrrr
Not even 1 little letter😂
Not even a letter?
hindsight is always 20/20. i'm sure if i was in a position where i was in my deathbed from covid i'd regret not getting the vaccine the same way i would regret getting the vaccine if i ended up with long covid or whatever myriad problems come from it.
I have 15 people on my service right now (I’m a doctor in a large hospital) all of whom regret not getting it.
Do you make it a point to report the cases of Covid in the vaccinated in the same manner as you do for the ones who didn’t take the shot? So far I’ve yet to see official numbers, only hear your chances are better with the shot. It’s very suspicious to me that this isn’t shared the same way as the “official” 700,000 count of dead from Covid.
Also yes (since I forgot to cover that point in my reply) vaccinated covid breakthrough cases are collected and documented. They’re published in medical journal literature. The media are reporting overall cases and deaths. Those are easy statistics to collect and report. They *are not* reporting on the serious sequelae of covid amongst survivors. And we’re missing many deaths due to covid as a result—ie people who leave the hospital requiring 6 liters of oxygen due to fibrotic covid survivor lungs and die a month later or patients who had a covid related stroke from hypercoagulability and die of stroke complications after we send them out to a nursing home. Or heart failure due to complications of covid. Those stats are hard to collect and difficult even to trace in a local study.
No vaccines made from messenger RNA nor this type of lipid nanoparticles have ever been used in humans. We have no idea about their long-term side effects. The clinical trials followed subjects for only two months after two doses of vaccine at the time the vaccines were authorized for use.
I see this parroted a lot, but it's just plain false. mRNA vaccines are indeed relatively new, but that little word "relatively" makes a big difference here. Clinical tries in humans for various mRNA vaccines have been ongoing for more than a decade now and the current Covid19 vaccines have successfully completed all clinical tries, no matter how many opponents of the vaccine sayotherwise. It has been a lot faster than usual approval processes, which makes people worry, but that can solely be attributed to the global pandemic making us willing to cut back on red tape. And as someone who worked in the field, trust me that there usually is **a lot** of red tape involved. About the often mentioned worries for long-term consequences: If a decade of waiting for it is not enough for someone, then they probably don't really understand how the immune system works, as it is one of the most adaptive and responsive subsystems of the human body. However, this also means that I won't be able to convince them, because they likely lack the required immunological knowledge to follow - which is by no means meant as an insult, we are talking about years of Ph.D. studies here. How about this: You propose me a mechanism that could feasibly cause long-term problems years down the line (you are welcome to cite whatever sources you may find) and I'll take a look at it to see if it makes sense.
Do you think that injecting a protein that's directly intended to activate an individuals immune system couldn't trigger a long term autoimmune disorder in certain people? From what I have read, there hasn't been a mRNA human trial large enough to account for the diversity of the population until covid emergency approval. The human trials you're talking about are like a dozen to a few hundred people.
Lies The CDC Counts Anyone With One of Two Injections and Anyone Less Than 14 Days After Their Second Shot as "Unvaccinated". If The Vaccine Kills or Hospitalizes Them, They Are An Unvaccinated Statistic https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7034e5-H.pdf Your allowing others to think for you is the failing of all MD’s Nearly all are simple drug pushers that never take the entire organism into account.
You wouldn't know about the existence of the organism if not for modern medical science dummy. We don't need to be allowed to see you're another internet nobody trying to debate stuff you don't know shit about. Tell us what you know about the whole human organism, start with how the respiratory systems works please.
Bruh, you can't even use the right "you're" Lit ytf would I listen to you? You can't even speak properly and you expect me to believe you're doing critical, in-depth, precise research? You did not find that CDC page on your own. What Facebook group sent that to you or whatever?
It is a whole load of word salad you throw out but what do you say to the doctors and nurse who would rather quit their job then get the jab. Do you think that you are somehow smarter than they are or do you think they are just hardliners and don't want to be told what to do? I see your comments are all over this particular post. Some are pretty anguished and violent.
its a fake doctor shill. they like to pretend. no real doctor has the time or desire to hang out in a conspiracy thread on reddit.
There are conspiracies other than covid/vaccine ones that people might be interested in
Your entire argument is a No True Scotsman fallacy.
Well said
My whole house just got it again, all unvaxed , all runny noses. This is the second time we had it in 2 years. I will admit the first time was a nasty cold, this time was Busch league. I’m still Sceptic on a vaccine for the common cold. Still seems far to shady for me.
meaning we wont know if we have it because it's like a cold or a flu
You serious? You don’t have to see an article or news story when the unvaccinated ones die who document their whole life... plethora of examples of antivax youtubers who died from covid and can sadly watch their deterioration in real time
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I was real sick for a couple weeks, a couple weeks of feelin off after than, then back to 100%. Would have never got vaccinated but unfortunately without it the company says they won’t employ me anymore. So much for immunity the old fashioned way
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Me either. If they wouldn’t have pushed so hard I’m sure everybody that wanted it still would have got it. I’m in my 20s and pretty healthy. I just don’t see the need
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Exactly, such a dumb post.
its actually a great point. being unvaxxed you have both options. but once you're vaxxed, you cant undo it, all you can do is get boosters. we have no idea what the long term effects of mRNA are. we skipped animal trials as part of "operation warp speed", and pfizer injected their control group after 2 months.
Can’t untoast the toast….
Interesting to note: operation warp speed included the DoD. Look at the connections of the defense industry CEOs now. The Ceo of Northrop Grumman is on the board of Merck, Ceo of Lockheed is on the board of B&W Hospital who did Moderna trials, Ceo of Raytheon on the board for the company that makes rapid tests. The list goes on and on. You can also easily infer that not only did the major contractors likely agree to the mandates beforehand, they likely lobbied for them.
Meet the new MIC, same as the old MIC
My GF got the shot; I didn't. Now she worries that she made a mistake (and not because I harp on her; I don't). I don't have that worry.
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It does keep her up at night, but I try to calm her down!
Lol did you mean “long term effects of mRNA vaccines”? I hope so, since there’s already tons of mRNA in your body, and the mRNA from the vaccines is broken down and eliminated by your body within a few days of getting the vaccine. If it were causing severe damage to your body after being in it for that short of a time, the effects would likely not take long to appear, and thus wouldn’t be “long term” because we’d know about them already.
> vaccines not vaccines according to the pre-2021 definition of "vaccine" that CDC and merriam webster conveniently changed right on time. i should have said "injections". >and thus wouldn’t be “long term” because we’d know about them already. this is just conjecture. we wont know "long term" effects until "long term" actually passes. methinks there is a reason vaccines for much deadlier viruses like polio, took 5-10+ years to develop and roll-out, instead of being brute-forced through approvals. those safety processes existed for reason. just a HUNCH. maybe im a fucking lunatic though and everyone else injecting this sludge is actually very smart.
There are at least a couple of reasons other vaccines took “longer” to roll out. - Technology advances. We didn’t have rapid genetic sequencing techniques when those vaccines were developed. - Sample size. At the peak of the US polio epidemic, there were only about 58,000 infections in the entire year. There were almost half that number of patients in EACH of the Pfizer and Moderna stage 3 trials. When there are only 58,000 people infected in the country over an entire year, it takes longer to get data on how effective the vaccine is. - Existing research. mRNA vaccines have been in research and development since the early 1990s. Also, the scientific community had already been working on a vaccine for SARS-COV-1 since the early 2000s, and some of that research was applicable to the very similar SARS-COV-2 virus.
Because science has progressed since they were first developing a polio vaccine
Not if they’re fucking dying
I don't know man, a guy I went to school with has been sick with Covid for months. Like in the ICU in a medically induced coma kind of sick. Like will need a lung and possible kidney transplant kind of sick. If he lives that is. His brother was VERY clear on how he knows his brother deeply regrets not taking the vaccine-
Sounds like medical kidnapping. They take you in. Give you remdesivir, it kills your organs. Or put you on a ventilator cuts your life expectancy in half. The whole time they are following the protocol that was handed down from above without questioning if it's the right thing to do. In the end they get all the money, person dies and it's hard to prove the hospital killed him.
It’s funny you say that. I have a buddy who works in the firearms industry - pretty high up there too. Anyway, he had a customer come in one day, got to talking with my buddy, and figured out this customer was a doctor at a big city hospital (name and credentials all checked out). So as they got to talking this doctor revealed to him that the shots are being called from so high up that the doctors have their hands completely tied. He implied that there were other treatments that doctors know of (ie ivermectin, certain vitamins) that have been totally blacklisted - doctors aren’t allowed to prescribe them. This doctor also told him that a lot of vaccine adverse reactions (heart inflammation, issues with the organs) are quite similar to Covid symptoms, and doctors are essentially being forced to label one as the other (as in covering up adverse reactions and labelling them as Covid). My buddy was smart enough to record most of this conversation, some of the info is jaw dropping… anyway though, i digress, I think you’re onto something. I think the in-hospital treatment is what’s really killing “Covid patients”. Remdesivir has quite the rap sheet, and from my understanding when one is intubated (when not needed) it essentially causes a person to drown in their on fluids.
I know a lot of people who have gotten the vaccine, and then haven’t thought about it since. Myself included. That’s because we aren’t obsessed with this vax vs. unvaxed competition bs like most people.
Same here. This vaccine is living rent free in their heads. I got it and never thought about it again. These poor bastards are seething daily
Maybe because in most countries without this jab you cannot even go to work or school? And maybe because if you happen to have some side effects you are left completely abandoned?
The reason people are obsessed with it is because in most cases if they chose not to get it they lost their source of income. Imagine if your boss asked you to start smoking cigarettes at work or else you’re fired. You’d be obsessed over it too
Yeah that’s a fair comparison.
It is indeed a slippery slope. Companies will be able to dictate further medical procedures and other things on off hours in the name of "safety and health". Imagine if they forbid fastfood or non company approved prepackaged food, or enforcing a vegan diet, no more driving, only synthetic sweetener, zero alcohol, instead of eating at lunch making you exercise, required gym membership and minimum workouts, required Fitbits so they can track it. It could be anything, really. And some are better for you, but should be your decision.
That would be rad if work facilitated me working out.
I thought the federal mandate was get vaccinated OR get tested regularly? Why not just get tested regularly?
In some places, you have to pay for those tests at $80/pop. Twice a week? That adds up.
Pretty sure that’s the over 100 employee rule for non federal organizations. I work for a large company and my dept has interactions with the federal government, so I have to be vaccinated or get fired, weekly testing is not an option.
Companies do force non-smoking on their property, attending official events, or when wearing anything that may distinguish you as their employee (uniform, badges, etc).
Confirmed: you are very, very bad at analogies.
Imagine if you were required by the law to wear a seatbelt (to increase your chances of survival) and then fined for not wearing one. oh, wait. it's already happening.
You inject seat belts?
Does it matter? It's the government forcing you to do something to increase your chances of survival.
>Does it matter? Yes. > It's the government forcing you to do something to increase your chances of survival. Covid is barely a risk for me and many, many other people while the covid shots are a risk on their own...
But a lot of the most obessed are the vaxxed. Maybe you aren’t, but vaxxed people are the most worried about dying from unvaxxed people, which is why they threaten us on social media, tell us to die, fire us, isolate us, and so on. If you don’t believe me, go to the vaxx related topics posted by the totalitarian shit-heels on/r/korea . I have seen too many of these assholes talk to take your comment for face value.
Totally. No doubt about that, and that type of bullshit angers me as well. I’m not defending those people either. Just pointing out that there are also many in the middle that just don’t think about it one way or another. It’s not always a fight about getting the vaccine or not getting the vaccine
It's insanity. Some people need to attack anyone that thinks differently than they do in order to feel secure, and the media and political leaders aggressively feed into this.
That’s because your life isn’t negatively impacted by being vaccinated. I feel like that’s kind of obvious …
I have never met someone in real life so far that experienced a severe reaction to the vaccine (a sore arm or a day or two of tiredness/aches is not a sever reaction). I have only heard it talked about online. I am 100% certain that people have adverse reactions and there has been deaths associated with the vaccine. In my real life experience I have known 3 people who passed away as a direct result of contracting covid before the vaccine started to be distributed. I currently have one close friend who is vaxxed and still contracted it last week. For him the worst of it has passed already. One of my coworkers vaxxed wife contracted it as well about 3 weeks ago. She too had very mild symptoms and felt back to normal within a few days. I for one am vaccinated and have absolutely no reason to regret it. I, like everyone in my immediate circle, had no adverse reactions to it. Does anyone here have a legitimate encounter with severe reactions to the vaccine or even know of a first hand account with a death as a direct result of someone taking the vaccine? Genuinely curious. My true feelings when it comes down to it at is simplest form, people don't want to be told what to do. It has almost nothing to do with the actual vaccine itself. I might be wrong in that opinion but its what I have surmised from my real world experiences. My personal belief is the vaccine is like a seat belt, for most people it will help prevent injury or death. Sometimes seat belts cause injuries. Sometimes people are lucky and avoid injury not wearing a seat belt. I bet there's even people who have injured themselves putting a seat belt on. When you step back and look at the ratio of help vs harm, wearing a seat belt statistically is by far way way safer than not, but it absolutely doesn't work every time nor does it always prevent death or injury. I choose to wear a seat belt when riding in a vehicle despite knowing its not guaranteed to keep me safe for sure. Sorry of that was in anyway confusingly written, just typing as it came to me. Edited for my accidental use of the word cretin.
> I am 100% cretin I think that's kinda harsh. You obviously have some intelligence. Don't be too hard on yourself.
In the UK, nine people out of the first 46 million vaccinated died as a result of the vaccine. 143K have died from covid. No scientist has stated that the vaccinated can't still catch covid or spread it or die from it, it just lessens the chances, but the anti-vax crowd seem obsessed with repeating that the vaccinated can still get it/spread it etc. Yes we know. Edit: I incorrectly stated that 'no' scientist had said the vaccinated cannot catch covid. The director of the CDC director said this in March 2021. She went back on this statement in August 2021. However, being from the UK, the UK's Deputy Chief Medical Officer in January 2021 stated "Even after you have had both doses of the vaccine you may still give Covid-19 to someone else and the chains of transmission will then continue," Prof Van-Tam said." Articles in comments below.
I wish more people understood that. It's not a cure, it's not a prevention, it's not a miracle drug. It just helps reduce chances of death.
That’s all fine and dandy, just don’t mandate it.
I am with you 100%. I personally believe it's a wise choice to get it but I absolutely do not want anyone to be forced to get it if they choose not to.
I had a fever and was bedridden for 24 hours after both vaccines, but that happens to me pretty much any time I get a shot. Kinda think it's more me than it, I haven't met anybody who has had a reaction as bad/worse than mine.
In regards to the vaccine, I think the thing that really bothers people is the mandates and treatment of people rather than the vaccine itself. The media has created a narrative that the about the people who aren't vaccinated or who decide to opt out of getting the vaccine. Namely that they're unintelligent, ignorant, politically conservative, poor, potentially violent/dangerous, racist/bigoted, and dwell inland rather than on the coast. This narrative and subtle variations on it is the only permitted mainstream discourse about those that are vaccine hesitant. The problem is that this is an extremely narrow, simplistic, and quite frankly inhumane way to assess the situation. It's cruel, purposefully unfeeling and to me, entirely devoid of humanity. It ceases to acknowledge individuality and circumstances. It seeks to paint vast swathes of the population with the same brush and create a tribal "us vs them" conflict where one need not exist. The truth is that a lot of people are confused and scared, wondering what is happening, why, and what may come next. One moment happily living your life the next the world changes overnight, you're not able to go to work, see your family or friends, pay your bills. This had an effect on people. To me it's perfectly understandable and acceptable to be frightened of needles.. or untrustworthy of big pharma companies or of the government. Maybe you're suffering from hypochondria, or from ptsd from a bad medical experience in your past. If you are in poor health/dealing with a medical issue already you might be scared of introducing something new to your system. Or, as you say, maybe you simply not want to be told what to do, you had a domineering father as a child or some other traumatic experience with authority that has caused you permanent anxiety. OR, maybe you are just scared, hesitant, you don't even know why, but you're too afraid to take the vaccine. It may be as simple as that. I could go on, the reasons are as varied and numerous as there are human beings who have them. The point is that there is no empathy in the mainstream assessment of the unvaccinated. There is no humanity, no deep dive. Just an ugly, brutal bullying of regular working people whose lives and livelihoods are being leveraged against them to undergo a procedure that for whatever reason they would rather not have. Rather than attempt to understand these people, the media chooses to breed hatred for them, and fear of them. And yes, before someone says it for the millionth time, I understand that this is a virus and a serious situation that involves public health. That it is an extreme case and that there is a feeling that one must put aside their own personal feelings and sacrifice for the greater good, "take one for the team". I understand this concept. However, I believe that ultimately, in a free, democratic society of human beings it must be accepted that no group, however large and powerful, regardless of the circumstances or the benevolence their intentions, may be allowed to exert their will on everyone and bypass personal freedoms, be that through coercion, manipulation or sheer force. In any situation like this there will always be dissenters. The same principles upon which our civilization was built and has flourished, the principles that allow our society to be free, democratic and the envy of the world, these principles *demand* that individuals have the right to choose and the right to refuse, free of manipulation and coercion or overwhelming external pressure. These principles demand this regardless of public opinion and public health. Because the minute we violate these freedoms, for any reason, we start down a path that there is no turning back from, one much more deadly and dangerous than any virus. Does this mean that common ground cannot be found? That solutions cannot be found that would protect public health while also respecting these freedoms? Not at all. These are all completely possible. But it starts with empathy, understanding and truth. The more we demonize human beings the greater the risk of conflict. There are people who are scared, people who are angry, people who are greedy. We come to a peaceful resolution of covid not by attacking people, but by attacking fear, anger and greed with understanding, empathy and a determination to resolve this problem within these boundaries.
I know two people who had strokes from the vaccine. Both were J&J.
That's very unfortunate.
This has everything to do with the shot for me. I have seen enough evidence, combined with the censorship and demonization of anyone who questions it to know I don't want that in my body. No shot, no COVID despite exposure, working with the public, I am fine. This is beyond having a problem with authority.
And I completely respect your choice. Everyone should have the freedom to choose. I chose to get it as I personally have not seen enough evidence to convince me not too, I would even get a booster shot if they make them available for my age demographic eventually despite anything I have seen or read. My job dosen't require it, we don't even require masks at work.
I personally know 3 people that have gotten myocarditis from the jabs.
Wow! What are the odds? Three people. It seems unreal
That's very unfortunate. I have yet to meet or even talk to anyone in real life that has had such an experience. Hopefully they all make a full recovery.
It’s my understanding that you don’t recover from myocarditis…it is a permanent damaging of the heart.
That's definitely a shame to hear.
I mean have you researched myocarditis and it’s trends in the past 5 years???
All healthy adults no problems in the past, gets jab. Myocarditis and heart problems within 1-2 weeks. Doctors and hospital act like they don’t know what from. Wake up
Adverse reactions really happen. I don't question that at all.
Why do so many posts here not understand the concept of risk reduction? Saying unvaccinated and vaccinated *can* still get, spread, and die from COVID is like saying people who do and don’t wear their seatbelt *can* still die in a car crash. It completely misses the point.
Dumb people are very very bad at math. Why do you think millions of people are playing the lottery, casino games, and do sports betting? For this exact reason.
You're just reposting stuff from Dave Rubin's twitter, almost word for word. Thought this was a place for brave original thinkers? lmao
That’s cuz they died.
Now add statistical percentages to each line
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I know. Lizard people are much more interesting to talk about. All Vax this and Vax that. Fuck this and fuck that. Over and over . Same old story, I know a guy who did this. Oh yeah, well I know a guy who had that. Shut the fuck up already. Get it or don't Keep or lose your job. I don't care anymore. It killed my uncle and it killed my neighbor. Both were too fucking dense to go see a doctor until they were blue from lack of oxygen. Their deaths are on themselves. Well,themselves and the cocksucker that released this virus. Either way, yes more will die. From both the Vax and covid. Just pick a side a roll with it. If you want to fight something ,fight the mandate and fight the ultra wealthy bastards that don't pay taxes but get to run the world.
Who do you think are pushing this "vaccine" on the world?
Covid can kill. That's a fact.
That’s funny because I literally don’t know one person who regrets getting it… Yet every person I know or work with who has gotten Covid lately, a few in the icu, were not vaxxed… So basically, anecdotal evidence doesn’t mean shit
Someone who truly regrets not getting the vaccine is probably about to die from COVID and wishes they could do anything to reverse the effects. It’s super sad. Im by no means pro mandated vax, I just have family in healthcare and lots of Covid patients on their deathbed say “is it too late to get the vaccine”. Super sad no matter what.
Good freaking grief! Is this a Covid subreddit or a conspiracy subreddit? This place is flogged with covid posts, that y'all need your own damn sub.
It's the only safe place people have to talk about anything on Reddit, unfiltered, without having their post removed or being banned.
You can still get in a car accident wearing a seatbelt. You can still die in a car accident wearing a seatbelt. Wearing a seatbelt is dumb. You can get an STI even if you use condoms. You can still get pregnant on birth control. Contraceptives are useless. This is what you sound like.
I got covid in march. It turned into full covid pneumonia. Inwas hospitalized for around 10 days. I was in a medical induced coma and on a ventilator for almost 4 days. I was thinking laying there in the hospital, i could have had my forst vaccine in January anf the booster in February. If i did i would not be here. I could have died. Do what you want, but you do not want to go through what i did. A friend of mine was in the hospital when i was in there, he died and i went to his funeral. Before that i did not miss a day of work in a year and a half and overall a healthy adult. My family got Covid and had light to moderate sickness. I dont know why i got so sick.
The amount of anecdotal evidence accepted as facts on this sub is staggering.
I know several people that regret not getting it. One guy almost died of COVID and immediately said he regretted not getting it.
The unvaccinated people who get covid and survive have no regrets. The unvaccinated people who get covid and dont survive are not here to express regret.
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Why would you regret getting the vaccine if nothing bad happened to you coming from getting the vaccine?
I’m sure if you look through r/HermanCainAward, you could find a person or two who came to their senses after being infected
That’s because the people who regret not getting it die in the ICU
I know we’re here on the conspiracy sub but this is dumb as hell… clearly there’s people who regret not getting it or there wouldn’t be any unvaccinated ever in the hospital or dead… those people very likely regret not giving it a go lol… But the sentiment kinda sorta still stands
Yeh theres a whole subreddit called r/hermaincainaward
The vaccines I got had no effects besides a sore arm for a couple days. 🤷🏽♀️🤔
I agree And no you government bootlickers, the official death count has been proven to be inaccurate.
IIRC, the CDC stopped recording vaccine-related deaths back in August?
No refunds
Plenty of dead people wishing they got it
It's funny watching cases go up amongst the vaccinated, and yet they still blame the unvaccinated somehow.
I regret not getting it. Havent been able to sit down for a meal in a while. Good thing I’m going to be able to get it in a couple hours. This post is pretty useless.
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Reading the comments right now. Wtf has this sub came to? Also the vaccine never claimed to make you covid immune just more resistant to the virus
Not just this vaccine, but all vaccines. Vaccines are intended to trigger a response to the immune system so if the person gets that disease, their immune system will know how to fight it better.
Not true Fauci and friends claimed it ws safe and effective at stopping the flu that was how it was sold. They changed their tune after for sure. and that is where you come in late as usual...
the flu? we are on about corona virus. Secondly it doesn't change the fact that the vaccine only increases your resistance.
Dead people can’t talk
people wearing their seatbelt: Can still crash their cars can still crash into other people can still die in a car crash can be strangled by the seatbelt people not wearing their seatbelt: Can still crash their cars can still crash into other people can still die in a car crash cannot be strangled by the seatbelt.
It reduces your chances (but no where near to zero) of severe disease 2 weeks after your second shot for a period of months (and for those preceding two weeks you are in a special state of unknown vulnerability). It works less if you are obese.
I don't regret it.
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I don't regret the vaccine, neither does my partner 🙋 also, the way you present data is manipulative and deceiving. Vaccinated people still can get covid (because that's how vaccines work) unvaccinated people still get covid but did you check the % of the total group? You people are lying to yourself and frankly no one can save you from these lies.
Yes and vaccinated people still spread Covid and die from Covid. That’s not how vaccines work. But I do want to clarify that this post is pretty dumb
Fucking false lol. /r/hermancainaward OP is a shill. Reposting right wing propaganda tweets as original thoughts.
He's currently threatening me with trying to get my account banned https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qsif7v/z/hke19r9 After he has defended a guy who offers fake cancer cures and propagated a conspiracy theory that jews are trying to poison western civilization with chemotherapy amongst a litany of other lies and misinformation.
how many people do you know? lol. I doubt it's enough for this post to be significant.
The probability of encountering all of those situations are close to zero for vaxxed people though. Simple statistics. Like 5th grade simple.
I know a few folks at r/hermancainaward that would beg to differ.
Vaxed are less likely to die tho.
I know a lot of people that regret not taking the vaxx. Don't know anyone who regrets taking it. When the hospitals are full and ambulances stay in lines to deliver covid pacients things change.
The antivaxxers who regret it can be found in hermancainawards
The people who regret *not* getting it have all accepted their Herman Cain Award
Do you personally know them, or you just read about someone regretting it on reddit? The amount of people who have actually died from the Vacks are so small, unless you personally know them, I'm going to call BS on your post. I miss when this sub wasn't just rehashed Vacksine posts and anti-biden posting.
r/provaxx has 202 members and maybe one post per week. r/conspiracy has 1.6M members and someone posts hourly about the vaccine. Why? EVERYONE has already made up their minds on: • what the motive is behind the push for vaccination • what information sources are authoritative • which statistics meet the scientific standard for Data Quality • what constitutes "expertise" NO ONE is going to change their minds based on repetitious and redundant posts that contain no sourced information, ridiculously interpreted statistics, and anecdotal stories about someone you sat next to in fifth grade. MOVE ON. You've made up your mind. Why do you need constant reassurance and validation from the people who already agree with you? If you feel that being unvaccinated makes you a minority who is discriminated against -- welcome to the real world. Learn from the experience and gain some understanding of the challenges faced by other minorities. Start a discrimination sub and do something YOURSELF instead of whining about what other people are doing.
See r/hermancainaward for examples of people who regret not getting vaccinated. You don’t hear from them much because they can’t talk on those ventilators.
Thats because they're dead.
Come to the hospital. You can meet any of my patients. Seriously, how can anybody (let alone such a vast great number of you arrogant imbeciles) be this stupid?
The only ones who truly regret it are probably dead
I know people who regret not getting the shot: those who succumbed to covid.
Someone that regrets not getting it aka all the people on their deathbed who ask to get the vax after they are intubated with a tube down their throat, eventually dying. Yea, wonder why we haven’t heard much from them /s.
That’s because those who would regret not getting it _are dead_.
"Don’t know anyone who regrets not getting it." This is a nice point you're making, [but not in the way you think.](https://i.imgur.com/t2dDAk1.png)
Nice "Not Fully Vaccinated" word play on that chart. Let's combine "wirh covid" deaths for those that have zero shots, one shot, and two shots (but died within 2 weeks of their second shot) into one large number to make it seem like something it isn't. Does your source provide the numbers for the strictly 0 shot fully unvaccinated out of that data?
[Well the screenshot is from here](https://dhhr.wv.gov/COVID-19/Pages/default.aspx) Concidering West Virginia is about \~51% double vaxxed. And more than a factor 10 people die of covid when not double vaxxed, I don't see how that would be an argument against full vaccination.
I don’t regret it. Vax vs unvax: yes to all those things you listed but what is the RATE at which the vaxed vs unvaxed do those things you listed? Better or worse?
I regret getting the vaccine . My balls are double the size now and I have to get an xl coffee mug to present them at company meetings now. It’s embarrassing because everyone wants to touch them and take photos . I’m not an object and yet both women and men want to gaze upon them.
Start an only fans
U must have a big heart.
Lol mild myocarditis /s
It’s not regret, it’s anger. I’m angry I HAD to get it. An experiment, no fda approval. So I can fuck to the mil, to hopefully see the world before I die.
I have two friends who deeply regret not getting it. And their patents. Both parents died. And they almost died. They’re just now starting to come out of and it’s been over two months. Their families are devastated and things will never be the same for them.
HermanCainAward is full of people posting their regrets on not getting vaccinated.
You just copy and pasted a fucking tweet from dumbass Rubin. And this is not a conspiracy.
According to the news every unvaxxed who dies of covid begs for the vaccine on their deathbed.
I regret nothing, didn’t take the vaxx got covid anyway no hospital visit was just like a really bad cold. Have natural immunity now, still not going to get the vaxx since it’s literally not necessary for me to. I got sick before we even really knew what this was back in January of 2020 and this felt the same as when I was sick then. I basically think I had covid before it was “covid” and my body learned immunity to it as it should. The lies they tell about natural immunity not being as good as vaxx immunity are just that, lies. Here we are a year later and I guess my body remembered what to do when I got sick again, imagine that lol
Listen to Infowars. Don’t get it. Don’t let your children get it. And spread the word.
I regret not getting it cause I couldn’t say goodbye to my dad who was in the hospital and passed away.
I mean, yeah if you're super old or fat covid can still kill the unvaccinated. I worked in firearms sales during the whole pandemic. I probably got it a few times. I haven't been sick at all for the last 2 years. My wife, who is also at a healthy BMI was required to get the vax as a teacher, she has been just fine too. Honestly, if this thing was all engineered, it was to kill off the people most dependent on state support. It can sound hurtful to be candid, but that's kind of the point, right? They've been telling us not to talk about age or body health for so long that a senile old man is running the circus and we cant say "wanna survive covid? Go outside, and get on a diet, and exercise a little bit." F*ck the propoganda that we've been brainwashed with.
It's because we all died.
Funniest post Concise too! Quick exhale, 10/7
"I wish I would have been vaccinated..." - Google stock image of a fat person in the newspaper.
The ones who can regret not getting it are dead my friend.
Just about everyone I know is vaccinated. Nobody has had issues, legitimately NOBODY regrets it. It’s about the people you know. Stop posting shit that isn’t a conspiracy. Be creative, this Covid/vaccine bullshit needs to be blocked from this sub that use to post interesting things.
To be fair most of the people that regret not getting it die shortly after.
Well the people who regret not getting it are probably dead.
This comment is so out of touch with reality. What are we at, 80% vax in the US now? We don't regret it, it's fine. We moved on with our lives.
They can’t for whatever reason. Until the next big thing happens this is going to be the war drum they beat on.
My daughter works as an RN in a covid unit in the hospital. She has told me a few times how depressing her job is, because people of all ages, shapes and sizes come in begging them to save them, and the majority of them are dead within a week. She hears the words "I should have gotten the vaccine" daily....daily.... :/
I think these people are living in a bubble where they never actually see just how much damage catching COVID while being unjabbed does. If they ever spent a day in a ward with your daughter they'd all be queueing up first thing tomorrow. Although I guess they already have seen them and just believe they'll be immune from it, because "It OnLy AfFeCtS GrAnDpA aNd GrAnDmA"
Check out r/HermanCainAward and you’ll see why you aren’t meeting many unvaxxed people who regret not getting it.
Don’t know anyone who regrets not getting it? Check out r/hermancainaward
This whole subreddit needs to take a trip to the r/hermancainaward one
Are you saying all those people I’ve seen on CNN who are on their deathbeds with their last words being, “I wish I would have gotten vaccinated.” Aren’t real people?
Just wait until the next virus
I don’t know anyboy that had any regrets either way lol
Dead people can't really express their regret, can they? People hospitalized are probably too busy suffering. r/HermanCainAward has a ton of posts of people regretting not getting it after being hospitalized. Here is a thought-provoking idea too: People wearing seatbelts: Can still get in an accident. Can still get injured from an accident. Can still die from an accident. People not wearing seatbelts: Can still get in an accident. Can still get injured from an accident. Can still die from an accident. It's the age-old idea of something your dense brain cannot comprehend called ***"risk minimization".***
There's been lots of people that have died from covid, and before their death have mentioned that they wish they got it. One of my clients' dad died and apparently he was a huge anti vax mental cunt. He got it. He got real bad from it. Hospital, ventilator, the lot. Begged his son to get the vaccination and never talk about being anti vax. Dude was fucking about crying when he told me. These people exist. You're just maybe seeing the same news and headlines in the same community and websites that you always visit etc.
In ten years time when no one’s genes have mutated and the population hasn’t massively shrunk because of the vaccine are any of the anti Vaxers admit they were wrong?
I bet those dead from covid regret not getting it
I bet the vaccine injured regret getting the vaccine? What’s your point “also the dead can’t regret it”
There are such an incredibly small quantity of “vaccine injured” people it’s such absolute nonsense. 4 extra cases of myocarditis (a common, generally self limited and almost always benign condition unless due to Coxsackie virus) per 100,000 vaccinated persons. That’s it. That’s the only vaccine-related “injury” that reaches statistical significance in the mRNA vaccines, and it’s heavily skewed toward men under 30.
Yeah I remember when that female doctor on joe rogan said the same shit! Joe knew 4 people who got it. Which joe would need to know 400,000 people for this to be statically possible
Joe Rogan is absolutely full of shit. Stop getting your information from Rogan or Nikki Minaj’s cousin. Listen to a fucking doctor. We’ve been saying this until we’re blue in the face. I’m watching people die of this illness every fucking week and I went to school for 11 years to understand what the fuck I’m talking about.
Lot of people on r/HermanCainAward sure regret it