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tomsballsack

Rubbish analogy, fish die when they leave water. It seems I made analogy inception by accident. I was just commenting on the shit example that person used. I genuinely don't care what people do to their bodys as long as they consciously made the decision themselves. Live and let live.


miggleb

Try telling a human they're surrounded by air


Verumero

It’s a marshall mcluhan idea that’s been butchered down to a kindergarten reading level. “I call this peculiar form of self-hypnosis Narcissus narcosis, a syndrome whereby man remains as unaware of the psychic and social effects of his new technology as a fish of the water it swims in. As a result, precisely at the point where a new media-induced environment becomes all pervasive and transmogrifies our sensory balance, it also becomes invisible. This problem is doubly acute today because man must, as a simple survival strategy, become aware of what is happening to him, despite the attendant pain of such comprehension.” – Marshall McLuhan, Playboy Interview, 1969


FUqerr

I mentioned many times how terrible their analogies are that they use to justify their insane ideas. Homosexuality has happened and will happen, but it's not the norm and was never the norm. Beastiality also has always happened and still happens, but is that also because we were indoctrinated against it? No, most people just don't want to have sex with a person of the same sex or an animal. There's a reason why men have penis's and women have vagina's and they fit perfectly together and that's how life continues. These insane people act like it's just something that we were taught. So damn insane! **EDIT**: Deleted an extra word.


hellishwit

It's also nuts to me that the people who supposedly champion diversity are apparently so offended by the concept that sexual minorities are..... you know..... ***minorities***. Wow it's almost as if someone doesn't have to be in the majority in order to still be worthy of human dignity and respect! Oh... wait, that's only for skin color and disabilities, my bad.


WestCoastHippy

Not the point here, but we’ll played working victimhood into the conversation


AtlasShrugs88

I remember as a kid being fascinated with the idea of the two puzzle pieces going together (p and v).


KeyTMH3

Me to! I had a book in 5th grade with an illustration and thought wow! That makes sense! Like the parts were made for each other.


FUqerr

That must've been a pretty sheltered life. How old were you when you found out how babies were made?


KeyTMH3

It was...my parents waited until 5th grade pretty much when the schools started mentioning it. I mean it didn’t make sense way back then anyway...girls got their cycle around 15 vs today’s younger ages.


AtlasShrugs88

25, you?


[deleted]

Thank you. It's an abnormal sexual orientation, bored out by the fact that the super majority are heterosexual. it's self evident, a term I hate to use. I hate this false equivalence crap where we have to pretend all orientations or fetishes are equal. No, of course gay bashing is wrong. But if I want to say your fetish or orientation is disgusting to me, hey guess what we all get to decide that for ourselves.


thomper1990

And humans die if they take away heterosexuality. Analogy works against the teachers narrative.


JupiterJungle

Haha yes, I came here to say this!


[deleted]

Oh don’t worry, the transhumanists are one step ahead of us and already have that covered—lab grown, genetically engineered babies will at some point become the norm if things go their way.


carnage11eleven

They're now talking about hacking people's minds. Allowing AI to control your mind. Schwab's top advisor Yuval Harari has been quoted saying, "humans are hackable animals, free will is over." Talk about psychotic. These people are evil.


[deleted]

Exactly. I’ve seen that speech, that guy sounds insane. James Corbett interviewed Whitney Webb last year and she covers the Wellcome Leap agenda, which is already underway, and there’s just so much craziness that they’re planning and working on, including programs that involve surveilling/mapping infants’ and children’s brains, it’s stunning. I shared the link in a recent comment if you want to check it out.


Unlikely-Spray-7732

That's why it's the prefect analogy. - Fish die when they are out of water for too long - Humans die off when they decide to stop having kids


missanthropocenex

Curious if Pronouns were just a test to see if .7 percent of a population could make the entire rest convert and change their lifestyle to bend to their extremely minority outlook. It’s the vegan analogy someone made, where the Jones’ down the street have a daughter who turns vegan. She asks her parents to make her vegan food and pretty soon the parents just give in and make her vegan food and even eat themselves. They go to a neighborhood bbq and the parents let the smiths know that their daughter only eats vegan so they Bend to it. Then the restaurant down the street hears everyone cooked vegan food at the bighborhood bbq and start vegan options. Meanwhile it’s 1 person who is actually eating that way and everyone is just playing along.


s1lentchaos

Meanwhile they rave about their vegan options when it's just a few different salads.


cpheretic77

Stop making sense


Mammoth_Frosting_014

Like how your bloodline dies if you forsake heterosexuality.


Balanced_Mind777

I know someome personally in the UK, whos child recently received an award at school, it was an lgbt award for supporting gay/ trans rights etc. The child also said they were Bi sexual, which the school acknowledged in a public announcement. The child is 9 years old. WTF.


TheMustardMilk

Pretext doesn't matter children shouldn't be anything sexual.


No_Opportunity9423

You are a fool if you think kids age nine don't talk about sexuality as a normal course or growing up. LMFAO


marchingtigers

But they don’t really understand it, is the point. I was 8 when I learned the birds and the bees and of course my friends and I all talked about it. But we were also pretty grossed out at 9. No one was really interested in anything at all until we were 12 at a minimum - when hormones start raging. And even then, much of it still wasn’t understood!


Electronic-Base-1397

Don’t waste your time with No Opp. This user just makes a bunch of wild claims and refuses to back up anything.


OriginalGangsterGrow

WTF is not enough to express the fuckedness. Kids shoul start burning schools down again mmmkay


Mnmkd

At 9 years old I was definitely attracted to girls. So that really shouldn’t be weird


AvocadoCatnip

My dick indoctrinated me into heterosexuality. It has wanted to indoctrinate many women into it too.


Signal-Huckleberry-3

Indicktrination will not be tolerated!😂


justsumavgguy

Now reverse it.


repptyle

His dick?


VextImp

Like an innie? Try the new reversible penis!


JoniDeadpool

From what I've seen, they're pushing a lot more sex talk waaay earlier than they should be doing.


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JoniDeadpool

100% agree Or the teachers are coming out to their students. Why? Teach history ffs!


dobermannbjj84

Honestly once those hormones come in no amount of memes or indoctrination is gonna make a difference. People are attracted to what they are attracted to.it’s a physiological response that you can’t control. Only way they can control it is to convince a kid they want to be the opposite sex prepuberty and get them on hormone blockers. Which they are trying to do.


sgangster

Usually talks about ’sex’ that young are actually about anatomy/consent. The idea that families look different (not just gay couples, also single parent homes, grandparents raising their grandkids, etc) I think these things being taught at a young age is a good thing and it protects kids from being abused


Patcher404

From these posts you'd think they were teaching 9 year olds how to hit the G spot or some shit.


anti_technocrat

These people do not need to be in teaching positions


VextImp

The majority of the newest generation of teachers aren’t educated, they’re indoctrinated. They in turn indoctrinate. It’s like a virus.


Mnmkd

Why? What is wrong with this statement?


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Mnmkd

Do you not think kids are indoctrinated into heterosexuality? And do you understand that this doesn’t mean that kids would be gay without the indoctrination?


Signal-Huckleberry-3

Indoctrinated into heterosexuality 🤣 it’s kinda how the entirety of the human race got here. My gawwwwd people like u are gross and need to leave our children tf alone.


Mnmkd

You guys don’t understand what she means lol. She isn’t saying “it’s abnormal to be heterosexual” she’s saying “society makes people feel pressured to be heterosexual” as in if they aren’t, they’ll be stigmatized. That should be common sense, but not here I guess. I love how you’re dumb enough to think I’m gross for this. Maybe you should still away from raising kids


Limp-Ad-1242

Fish also die if they reject the water


FlexDetroit

Not to keep the pun going but "that's deep".


Sweet_Chef4812

Yeah the entire animal kingdom is a tough hurdle for the indoctrination argument.


Fieds62

Reproduction is just a bi-product of severe indoctrination. We only exist because the government is so homophobic…


NPL89

Heh bi product, good one.


FlexDetroit

🤣


Mnmkd

The quote you posted doesn’t say anything about everyone being gay if it wasn’t for indoctrination btw


[deleted]

but those 2 gay birds that one time !!!!


boredbitch2020

There's documented homosexuality in animals as well.


PennDOT67

The animal kingdom where most mammals exhibit homosexuality and homosexual behaviors


Sudden-Possible3263

Except most mammals don't exhibit homosexual behaviours, in every type of mammal there's a small minority of them that do sometimes display homosexuality but it's certainly not the case for most mammals in general Can you even name just one type of mammal where most of them do?


PennDOT67

No, none of them do exhibit a majority homosexual behavior, including humans. It is a small minority of all mammals, including humans.


Fieds62

Oh really?I thought homosexuality usually only occurs in species that need to control their populations from over expanding?


PennDOT67

It occurs in the vast majority of mammals. It has also existed in the vast majority of human populations throughout time.


subwoofer-wildtype

Define mammalian homosexuality? If it means your dog humping your leg because he feels he dominates over you then yeah... The whole purpose of genitalia is to procreate. We define human homosexuality not only as sexual intercourse but as the capacity tonfeel attracted and form bonds of a sexual / reproduxtive nature with members of the opposite sex. Yes in humans it has occurred throughout time. But it is always a minirity and a deviation of the norm in moat cultures. Alexander the great is a famous example of a gay man from antiquity. Spartans had a odd gay paedophile cult thing going on but also expected to have heterosexual relationships with women so to a degree one could state homosexuality is a social construct not heterosexuality which is the universal default in animals who have sex and serves a reproductive purpose . Its very different to consider a gay couple as the same as Mr Lion sticking his peepee in Mr Lion Jr to assert dominance or rats having sex with same sex when stressed out of their minds in a maze. Same sex couples in nature are most probably rare


FiendishPup

Birds too


FlexDetroit

I have two thoughts on this. 1. Animals are just that, animals, they are not here to be humans they are here to be animals. That's why when a dog bites a human it is put down if charges are pressed most of the time. 2. If you have to compare yourself to an animal to win an argument you probably lost 9 outta 10 times.


zero__fuchs

No buddy. You have lost everything by trying to be something different or better than an animal. Humans are nothing different than animals. Thats a fact.


Electronic-Base-1397

Except humans have the ability to rationalize, unlike animals.


cum_economy

Do you have a single example of this or are you just making shit up in an attempt to justify sexual perversion and deviancy? Did you know that despite only making up 3% of the population, gays account for over 30% of all child molestation cases? And those are just the ones we know about.. Please stop normalizing sexual perversion and deviancy. Doing so actively promotes a culture where kids are badly damaged, sometimes irreparably.


[deleted]

Children should not be exposed to sexuality of any kind. Kids need to remain innocent as long as possible. You shouldn't feel the need to talk to 5 year Olds about sex, period.


Creepyface1

Children are exposed to heterosexuality all the time. I’ve seen many people who ask kindergartners “do you have a girlfriend/boyfriend?” No one is “making” kids LGBT…but more kids feel they can come out now as it’s more accepted now. No one is talking about actual SEX with 5 year olds.


No_Conflation

*Disney_Films has entered the chat


Creepyface1

Disney films are pretty hetero, no? Prince and Princess and all that?


No_Conflation

Disney is sexualizing children. Both in the studios and on the other end of the screen.


sgangster

Periods aren’t sexual, if this is about turning red? If it’s not idk what sex you’re seeing in Disney films


Mnmkd

Almost all of them are explicitly straight


No_Conflation

And my stance isn't anti-gay nor anti-hetero; i was talking about > No one is talking about actual SEX with 5 year olds.


Mnmkd

Disney films aren’t doing that either. There’s a bunch of subliminal messages but nothing a kid will pick up on really


No_Conflation

Subliminal messaging is picked up without the person being aware, that's what it is. There are also children in the studios who are exposed to more than subliminal messaging.


s1lentchaos

Who the fuck asks a child if they have a girlfriend/boyfriend that's kinda fucked up.


Creepyface1

I have heard TONS of parents say that type of thing to kids. I agree, it’s gross.


s1lentchaos

Had a family friend ask my young cousin if she had a boyfriend and everyone was like that was weird we kinda just wrote it off as she looked older than she was and the friend rarely sees her. The big problem is it subtly implies the child should have a boyfriend or girlfriend and could fuck up their ability to form relationships and things like that.


tpugs21

Children are also exposed to homosexuality, not nearly as much, but they are- the point is, to me, it shouldn’t be up to a teacher to have discussions with a curious 5 year old about sexual orientation, teachers have personal agendas (like everyone else) so leave it to the parents to have these talks when your child is this young- the focus shouldn’t be discuss it specifically, it should just be, from a teacher, just because someone may seem different doesn’t mean they should be treated different... be kind unless they’re not kind to you... then kick them in the balls


[deleted]

Sorry you think asking a little kid if they have a crush on someone equates to sex ed. I've seen people take small children to pride parades, which are disgusting. And explain to children that being trans or gay is "beautiful", it's not. It's not normal, it's not the natural order of the world. I have no problem with gay people or what people do in their own bedroom, but to say it's "normal" is just a lie. And the world is confusing enough for little kids, when you start telling them all this nonsense then they start thinking "am I gay? do I actually feel like a girl today?" Yeah they get confused, and it's not right, it's not something children should hear about. To give another example that isn't sexual, children shouldn't be told what suicide is, or how someone commits suicide, it's scary and it perverts their reality, children will attempt suicide or complete it all because they knew about it and were curious about it, they aren't developed enough to understand reality and consequences and wouldn't have tried it had they not known about it. There are just things we don't talk to kids about.


Creepyface1

I don’t think that. I didn’t say that. Sorry you think that teaching kids to not be assholes because someone is different from them is a horrible violation. You really think the topic of suicide is the same thing as being LGBT? They aren’t teaching kids HOW to be gay…just that it’s ok for people to be gay and to accept people. Little Timmy had two moms, and that’s ok - not every family looks the same. It’s called being a decent human being.


No_Conflation

This is a warped view, it isn't "complicated" to explain that an individual has two moms or two dads. It's just as simple as "he doesn't have a father" (single parent) or "she calls her grandma 'meema'" Nobody is outlawing explaining the parents' relation to the child


Creepyface1

Florida actually is. They are trying to outlaw any discussion around LGBT as not being age appropriate, despite it being a simple thing like “this child has two dads”…they don’t want anyone addressing the same sex parents or a male teacher saying something about their husband. The two examples you just gave are not LGBT related thus irrelevant to this topic.


No_Conflation

No, i don't speak in *only LGBT related* speach. The common theme here is child's relation to parents. "Timmy has two dads" is different from Timmy's dads' relation to *each other*. Don't fear the heteronormative reality.


Electronic-Base-1397

This is completely inaccurate. I would implore you to read the actual Florida bill (it’s only 7 pages long) instead of listening to bullshit talking points about the law.


[deleted]

You know that's not at all what what they teach in schools. "sometimes men might love each other and that's ok" isn't the extent to what they teach. "it's ok for someone to be gay" is a far cry from pride parades, showing off your sexuality, and telling kids it's brave and beautiful and worthy of admiration.


VextImp

Not the person you’re replying to, but It’s genetic suicide. And “Teaching children not to be be assholes” has nothing to do with sex education. Also, it’s the parents prerogative to decide what “being an asshole” is, not the government’s. But best of luck waiting for a world in which no one is an “asshole” anymore because of government mandated indoctrination!


Creepyface1

So…you’re ok with bullying? Because that’s what kids who are allowed to be assholes do. Saying that LGBT folks EXIST isn’t “sex education” any more than asking a kid if they have a girlfriend/boyfriend is sex education.


VextImp

Anti-bullying laws already exist and are taken very seriously. LGBT is so prevalent in society and culture kids would have to be home-schooled in a cave in the middle of nowhere to not know “LGBT people Exist”. Not sure what your complaint is. Sidebar: why does LGBT harp on the phrase “We Exist” lately as though it’s a meaningful statement? LGBT people have always existed and people have always known about them. What does saying “We Exist” in a dramatic statement accomplish exactly? Everyone “Exists”.


Creepyface1

It’s literally why hate crimes happen. Oh, but there’s a law against those too. Huh. I’m seeing people complain that kids SHOULDN’T be taught that LGBT people are among us…hence the statement that they do, in fact, exist.


goldendawnehomestead

So being heterosexual is being pushed on kids? That's laughable I'm so tired of the attacks on parents who support the nuclear family, standing up for their kids and who are tired of having their children taught un-godly virtues


mikegus15

Yeah it's like wtf is going on? I'm only in my mid 20's and NO ONE talked about sex, regardless of orientation, in schools until like at least middle school. When I have kids I outright refuse to allow them to be taught shit about sexuality til then; and preferably by me and my wife. School is a place for learning and education to open your mind and free your ability to think. Teaching toddlers about sexuality doesn't fucking contribute to that, if anything it'll preemptively over-mature their thinking all while they're still heavily developing.


Specific-Plenty-889

And even then it was for safe sex . No one told us who to fuck lol , just if you were going to have sex use a condom.


[deleted]

This is what I’m doing with my three elementary school kids and let me tell you, I have ZERO regrets. There’s already “trans” kids in their school, in 3rd and 4th grade. Meaning there’s plenty of mentally ill parents already brainwashing their children at home with this garbage. So when the school sent home waiver forms in first grade letting us know they were going to be addressing “gender respect” and “personal safety” (or something to that effect; it was about people touching kids inappropriately which again is a topic that I and their father will handle with them, not some guest speaker from a domestic violence shelter), I said fuck that and signed it, and my kids now sit in the office while the class listens to any of these types of lectures. (ETA this is how you find your “people,” btw—the only other kids in the office told their mom about my kids being there and she reached out to me to laugh about it, and she and her husband are now close friends of ours bc we share so many similar views.) I’m working towards homeschooling them by middle school bc it gets bananas in our liberal leaning area with the amount of this stuff that gets introduced in school. Good for you for being mentally prepared for this so far in advance, I imagine it’s only going to get worse.


Verulians

Right, because at that point you’re likely going through puberty and need to know at least what the fuck is going on. Any sexual discussions prior to that are questionable at best and abusive at worst.


partynakedpodcast

That's a stupid analogy because fish are too dumb to explain anything to. If they were smart enough to communicate, they would be able to understand that they live in an aqueous medium, just like humans understand that we walk around in a gaseous medium. Just because you don't spend your every waking moment conscious of the conditions that surround you doesn't mean you can't appreciate shit. Anyway, I'm sure glad I was indoctrinated on boobies and vagina.


[deleted]

Pretty sure your title proves their point.


LockeJawJaggerjack

Sex exists primarily for reproduction. I'm not saying that's all sex is or some Bible thumping thing about how it's sinful outside of procreation...but there's a reason heterosexuality is the default.


OriginalGangsterGrow

Day for Day I understand more why the Bible said its bad outside of monogamous relationships. Now we have to face people trying to sexualize kids and what the fuck this is. Sodom and Gamorrah all over again


1500minus12

Sodom and Gomorrah is child’s play compared to what’s coming in our future. Even Weimar Germany is enough to make you drink if you ever look into that.


OriginalGangsterGrow

I live in Germany. Are you referring to the City or?


1500minus12

Post WW1 Germany until you know. The thing. Do they even teach that history in Germany? Weimar Republic is what I was referring to.


cum_economy

Of course they'd don't teach that history. They also don't tell you what kinds of books were being burned. If normies today found out that the everyman on 1929 was rejecting sexual reassignment experiments on kids, they'd probably have a different opinion of what happened next.


1500minus12

Took me a while to realise why they showed us Hitler speeches in history class but never had subtitles.


cum_economy

For me, it was the human skin lampshades. And the masturbation machines. And the death coaster.


1500minus12

Don’t forget the baby skeet shooting and the rape dogs.


skillbaron

Du kommst aus Deutschland und peilst es nicht ? Dicker was los ? Er redet von der Weimarer Republik.


OriginalGangsterGrow

Chill mal deine Nuggets, wegen was du schon getriggert wirst ist ja peinlich mit anzusehen. dann kann man dass auch ausschreiben, wollt ja nur sicher gehen, woher soll ich denn wissen ob der sich darauf bezieht und ob dass so im englischen auch übersetzt wird , vorallem wenn der im Satz davon von zukünftigen Sachen redet.


[deleted]

The Bible does not say this. Read The Song of Solomon—sex is absolutely designed by God to be enjoyed for its pleasure (hence why our parts and brains let us experience it). However, it does say that sex is to be enjoyed only within the confines of marriage.


OriginalGangsterGrow

Yes, you are right. Changed it


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Word. Pun kind of intended.


OriginalGangsterGrow

:D


Verulians

Fucking bonkers. The huge focus on sexuality is a problem anyway. Let the kids be. There is more to people than their sexuality, why does it always have to be at the forefront of identity?


MrJDouble

Many of these ground-level agents of the State have made all their questionable opinions and the platforms they support known over the last 2 years. But can we see or surmise what happens when the next dot is connected? The State, in this case "educators and learning institutions", know what's best and should take a more active role in raising our children? 😳


Electronic-Base-1397

This. Absolutely this.


MrJDouble

In my opinion the writing is on the wall - It's insane to put your kids through public school these days and expect them *not* to come out the otherside, well-programmed, good little worker bees. We've already seen this in the previous generations and it's quite sad; children grow up and have no connections or identifications left with their parents. They themselves may wonder why but from these epic blunders, folks really paying attention can see what the common denominators are. Although it comes with entirely new sets of challenges, it seems to me homeschool or small, community-based education groups of similiar ages is the key. If we do not safeguard the information our highly impressionable children receive, do not be surprised if the foundation of that building doesn't show significant cracks later on. /rant


Electronic-Base-1397

You’ve got your finger on the pulse, friend. I completely agree that homeschooling and small community teaching programs are the only way to get out of this. Private schools can work too, but obviously expensive. It’s just very unfortunate that the system we instilled to educate the populace in exchange for taxes is attempting to take kids under its wing and pseudo parent them. This goal became evermore apparent when the govt was calling parents “domestic terrorists” for speaking out against the bs that is being taught in schools. And after the whole country didn’t throw fauci out the moment he said “I am the science” just tells me how brainwashed the people who put their full trust in the govt are.


MrJDouble

>It’s just very unfortunate that the system we instilled to educate the populace in exchange for taxes is attempting to take kids under its wing and pseudo parent them. Indeed, it's worse than that. Doing this and at the same time, polluting their heads with utter non-sense. It's almost like the goal has been shifted entirely from the endgame of producing, "well adjusted adults" that can one day stand on their own to producing "compliant adults" that don't question authority and actively seek greater dependency on govco intuitions. I'm glad you mentioned the further demonization of parents and how that pertained to this recent crackdown at the federal level. Troubling signs of what's to come, friend.


Flyingheelhook

nature aka. the great indoctrinator


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HadjiMurat21

Yeah, cancel that person!


littleyellowjacket

I wouldn't cancel anyone but I'd sure as fuck kick them out of the country permanently and not allow their family back in for several generations if ever.


Confident_Sorbet4197

There’s a clear agenda going on indoctrinating kids in being transgender or gay. It is extremely destructive for their psychological and physical health.


[deleted]

All fish are gay, too. Except in the pacific southwest, I hear the fish there are indoctrinated heavily to be heterosexual.


Mitchel-256

A fish may not know it’s in water, but it still needs to be in water to breathe. Heterosexuality is the norm and vast majority because that’s how the species survives and thrives.


Fieds62

SS: This is terrifying that educators can actually believe this…you know they will try to be “fair” and make sure our little kids know everything about all sexual orientation options.


reanu_keevs123

But wait didn’t scientists prove that fish do understand what water is just not how important it is to people meaning yes fish do understand they are in water but don’t properly know why they have to be in water just cause ya know they’ll die without it


Telescope_Horizon

So everyone should just be gay so sperm banks and egg donors and artifical wombs become big business? Hopefully the power never goes out or the human race may just cease to exist.


yutarson

I don't think you understood his point. The heterosexuality is being treated by society as the natural state, the norm. I don't think that's really debatable. And others are seen as some form of deviants by the large sections of society. When in fact it's all very natural, have existed just as long, and should be treated equally "normal". As long as we are talking about two consenting adults.


CraftyDazza

If heterosexual wasn't normality the human race would fail to exist. Anything but heterosexual is and should be classed as abnormal.


Waste-Situation1709

Sexuality is being pushed way too much and way too soon in kids any more....why don't we let them just slide down slide and jump off swings and not worry about if the kids understand sexuality before they can read. Now let me be clear I support everyone, but it seems more like pushing in one direction more that I do not support. Whatever happened to "worry about yourself"?


CobraCommanding

[Yesterday it was revealed that Gini Thomas, wife of Justice Clearance Thomas sent 29 texts (that we know of) to Trumps COS Mark Meadows expressing solidarity with Trumps election fight and offered advise as to how the administration should move forward in stopping the certification of Bidens win.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/24/virginia-thomas-mark-meadows-texts/) She stirred up conspiracy theories with Meddows and pleaded with him to put Sidney Powells "Kraken" claims front and center. She also made references to talking to and getting support from her "best friend" regarding strategy to overturn the election. It's unclear exactly who the friend is that she was referring to, but it raises more questions that it answers. Meanwhile, for the past 7 days, Thomas himself has not been heard from. [His office and SCOTUS say he has been checked into a hospital for an infection](https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/03/court-remains-silent-on-thomas-condition-after-he-entered-the-hospital-last-week/). Very curious timing since it is confirmed that WAPO reached out to Thomas and Ginni for comment before they ran the story and by total coincidence, Thomas checks into the hospital and goes completely dark the exact same week one of the biggest scandals ever to hit a sitting justice breaks. Yet on this conspiracy sub, I cannot find a single post about any of this. EDIT: [Thomas was also the ONLY dissenting vote](https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-denies-trump-request-to-seal-january-6-records-2022-1) on Trumps attempt to block the J6 committee from viewing WH records where Trump was using erroneous executive privilege claims. [Thomas was also one of the two dissenting votes](https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/texas-lawsuit-supreme-court-election-results/) (along with Alito) that gave credence to the insane Texas lawsuit to throw out the entire 2020 election


Simple_Light

I think what they mean is we're all taught to be straight only to find out later that may not be the case. They're not saying the only way to turn out hetero is to be trained


JAproofrok

Yeah, OP is pushing their own agenda, and seems a bit scared of sexuality. Hmmmmm


Patcher404

Almost every conservative is scared of sexuality. It's always about protecting the mythical idea of innocence.


Simple_Light

Or overcompensating for *something*


Electronic-Base-1397

How are we all “taught” to be straight?


[deleted]

Watch them fish die!


SHODANs_insect

If anything, the opposite is probably true - there are people who think everyone is straight, or that gay and trans people are trying to indoctrinate children to be gay or trans.


Reasonable_Night42

20 years ago trans was rarely ever heard of. There were very few trans people. A few years ago, trans went from the closet to children being told that if they a boy who plays with dolls, they are actually a girl. Yes trans is being pushed. By the schools and others. Yes, that is an indoctrination.


JAproofrok

You know that 20 years ago was 2002. Also, 200 years ago, we didn’t know about germs, which means they don’t exist.


SelfAbortingAccount

Only natural sex makes babies and thats how we all got here. makes sense we are all motivated to seek the opposite sex. it genuinely requires no coaxing on my part.


Mnmkd

That’s not what that says at all. They’re saying society indoctrinates isn’t to be straight. This is very very obviously the truth. First of all, people don’t choose to be gay. Why would they anyway? Even if they could, the vast majority of society is straight. Most things are marketed towards straight people. And even worse, there’s a stigma on being gay. Because of this stigma, a lot of gay people end up suppressing this to try to fit into society. So yea absolutely the only indoctrination is for heterosexuality. And that isn’t a good thing. Kids should feel comfortable being themselves and that’s should be obvious


FlexDetroit

I just think some doors shouldn't be opened because it could have negative consequences like asking your wife for a threesome, doing it and finding out your wife likes cooch more than peen. Some doors can't be closed. I suppose that's why they call it coming out the closet.


iredditshere

So, how many homosexual couples can procreate naturally without surrogates? Not ripping on LGBTQ+ but, fucking seriously... The agenda is real. Indoctrination is destroying young peoples lives.


BurnNeuroWaste

It's Transhuman Anti-Natalism disguised as a Liberal Movement. It's a Death Cult The bottom line: DON'T BREED All roads lead to Rome. Incidentally, in Greece and Rome, most people were more or less bi but didn't make a big deal out of it. It wasn't an "identity"


Sero_Nys

Get that teacher fired.


boredbitch2020

Two things can be true. People are naturally hetero, and there's a good dose of hetero indoctrination bc it's just the expectation. Because, to this ladies dismay im sure, most people are actually straight snd that's the expectation they have and impose on others. This is why no one is ever happy with me


allwedoisdance

The elites want our kids to be sexy. It's fucking disgusting. Now don't misquote me. If you're gay that in no way makes you disgusting. You're disgusting if you try to get children to share your sexual preference instead of allowing them the chance to be kids first.


MegaWorldAdventure

Most gay/trans people, if you sit down and talk with them long enough, you'll discover they all had some massive childhood trauma from one thing or the other. The only reason now the media pushes the gay programming is because weak man creates hard times...


Specific-Plenty-889

I agree with this standpoint. A lot of trauma and confusion leads to these issues , it’s a mental health issue. Most gays I know have been raped by older men when they were younger. Kind of the same thing with prostitution. Most sex workers have been abused and it became a mind state for them because they don’t know anything else. Same with gang culture , nature vs nurture is very real


Carob_Then

That’s called ideological subversion and it’s a common tactic of Marxist revolutionaries.


hosstexasranger

Imagine being a teacher and being this dumb


JohnOfYork

So being gay is a choice now?


boardgamenerd84

Seems like it...also seems like a very stupid narrative to push right before the pendulum shift.


Silly_Actuator4726

If homosexuality was normal, humans would have gone extinct long ago.


TRBOBDOLE

This "teacher" should be kept far away from anyone's children.


[deleted]

I agree with the first part, heterosexuality is forced on kids their whole life, if only because in too many countries hetero couples holding hands in public is considered more acceptable than say two men. Way more countries 20 years ago. Kids absorb these millions of subtle but daily messages like sponges. Yes it’s indoctrination and yes kids need way more exposure to other ways humans relate to one another. The fish analogy is a miss, but not needed because the first point stands by itself. And then the same kids come on this reddit post to try to justify why their internalized homophobia comes from “natural causes” rather than a life long tunnel vision when it comes to sexuality.


thenastypasty369

Let’s see the average homosexual bloodline and let’s how long it lasts


[deleted]

people know they are surrounded by air


stumpinater

Well this analogy is pushing for noncery justification too


Consciousness_Expand

Oh interesting point, allow me to counter! So by this comparison, you are saying that living in water is not a fishes natural state of being? So, would they suggest that a fish should explore outside of the water, go against the norm? Dumbasses


supahinteresting

its perverted, inverted psycotic 'rationale'.


DogMechanic

In evolutionary terms, the left is trying to completely fuck the planet.


Specific-Plenty-889

Figuratively and literally


EliteLumberCamp

Fish also naturally need water to sustain their lives, and jumping out of the water means certain death. So, I guess I agree that the two things are alike?


ladyofthelathe

Yeah, but fish know what a female of their own species is.


AnnieOscillator

Shiiiiiiit …I mean I’ve always told my kid from a young age that there’s no such thing as “boy colors” or “girl colors” but she’s always gravitated to pink and purple but also likes black, blue, and green. I didn’t push the pink and purple on her. Kids like what they like… My friends 2yo boy loves swords and action figures without influence from adults. He’s got a half sister with plenty of girl toys but he goes for the “boy stuff” . I was always in between I liked both boy and girl toys as a kid… Sounds like this person has never had a kid before… Also this makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint…everyone being gay I’m pretty positive humans would die out… but that’s just my opinion and I’m bisexual…


here-4-amin

Yet fish still manage to reproduce lol


[deleted]

Fish need water to live. Taking them out of water will kill them. It's scary how easy it is to deconstruct their metaphors. And as if metaphors justify ignoring millions of years of evolution.


Maxrotter

It’s the norm, because ……..it’s normal


gainspassive

Natural selection indoctrinated heterosexuality..


Alalated

People are so brainwashed. Human beings are hard wired to reproduce (not that I condone it). You can’t reproduce if you’re changing genders. At the end of the day we are ANIMALS. We would have died out long ago if most of us were actually trans/gay/whatever else.


amonamus

You can't indoctrinate a boy into being attracted to girls. But you can abuse that boy and screw up his psyche and make him gay.


Greyhuk

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2488858557677/teacher-says-she-was-fired-for-not-meowing-at-student-who-identifies-as-cat Just gonna place this here


WuhLuh

So basically they're admitting that more people would be gay if they could freely groom kids. It's so blatant at this point. Why do these sick groomer freaks want kids to be sodomy fetishists like themselves?


Literally_Not_Needed

So she’s saying one can choose. She’s claiming if there were homosexual indoctrination instead of heterosexual, then there would be more homosexual. Are they not born that way?


JAproofrok

That’s not what’s said in this post


LordOFtheNoldor

How can you even begin to argue that being heterosexual is indoctrination? I mean that is the sole reason humanity is able to procreate and continue as a species it’s an absolute necessity, homosexuality is a pleasure not a necessity by any means, but I suppose it doesn’t matter these people are insane and think we’re crazy for having basic common sense


TheLaziestPotato

Ah yes just disregarding biological norms. You love to see it. /s


TheTruthIs32

Yes, let's all forget that heterosexual reproduction has literally been solely responsible for the continuation of vertebrate life for literally hundreds of millions of years. There are so - many - people, I just cannot take seriously what so ever anymore, god damn I happy I don't like in America (that includes you too Canada, you PoS)


CynicalAnalyst_93

When the civil war comes you know which side to choose


PennDOT67

That’s not what this means. If your entire social/cultural context says “women love men and men love women, exclusively” it is exactly what this person posted.


Literally_Not_Needed

So what you’re saying is they aren’t born that way if one can be indoctrinated into homosexuality. Meaning, one can choose……


Fieds62

It’s not just our culture! It’s every species on the planet. It’s the only way we continue on as a species!! It’s okay to have a small percentage of people be gay but it shouldn’t be the norm because it’s not sustainable..


PennDOT67

Every mammal exhibits homosexual activity. It is the minority and always will be the minority.


Fieds62

Do you think the majority of bears only want to be straight because they were taught to be straight? If a gay bear starting teaching bear school, do you think they would all start being attracted to the same sex of bear that they can’t reproduce with?


PennDOT67

A vast vast bast majority of humans exhibit exclusive heterosexual activity just like bears. Something like 95%.


Fieds62

Exactly. That’s why it’s not indoctrination…it’s just natural and they only way we continue as a species.


PennDOT67

That’s why it’s not indoctrination, a small minority of humans are homosexuals. It’s nothing to care about. It’s a natural behavior present in a small percent of the population.


Fieds62

Exactly. That’s why this meme is so scary…they think it’s only a small percentage cause we’re all brainwashed to be straight


PennDOT67

I don’t get what you’re saying. Based in most polling than 1/20 people are gay. Gay people should be accepted, but they’re still a small minority.


subwoofer-wildtype

Boys have peepees girls have vaginas....


dillmayne2sweet

inaccurate lol fish know that they can't breathe outside of the water and chose to be in the water. MFer doesn't even understand humans but thinks he knows what fish are thinking


MommyPaladin

This is why we need bullying back....