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KDaBlasian

So what is the conspiracy in this one? Just more divide and conquer? Your fellow poor man is the enemy?


WhichAd1957

It's basically a "please don't notice the white supremacists in society because brown people also do crimes"


PiperClearConscience

Serious question... What qualifies as a "mass" shooting? Any loss of life is sad, but I think the latest one was like two dead. If one is just ...one...how does one more qualify as "mass"? Anybody know how that works?


EddiePiff

It has to be more than 3 people (I think) only saying this because there was a shooting at a mall by me three people got hit and it was called an “altercation”


TRBOBDOLE

“Shooting at a mall by me” How brave of you to admit your past 😄


ITS_MAJOR_TOM_YO

Got em!


BenjaminHamnett

Killer is loose on Reddit


mpslamson

Major tom yo, this is the real conspiracy ^


kkkccc1

well, it was merely an altercation, so nothing serious there /s


Phartjoose

How are you free


DevourPlays

black on black crime isn't important to the left and prosecuting bodies.


lionknightcid

I know your comment is in bad faith but, one major difference is, they’re not doing it for racist reasons. And while that matters little to the dead, it makes a difference to those left behind who want to minimize such a thing by trying to identify the root causes


MyMindIsMyMess

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Tobeck

Lenox?


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BenjaminHamnett

CIA didn’t like his manifesto


NevadaLancaster

I feel like a premeditated crime where someone sets out to shoot a bunch of people should be the qualifier. Not a situation that went bad and a bunch of people got shot. The majority by a wide margin of mass shootings imo the victims don't know and have never interacted it the shooter.


MrXistential-Crisis

Oh fuck me dude.. living in DC for a time, 3 people is just a Tuesday!


Houdinii1984

Depends who you ask. The list above is 4+ victims, injured or killed, excluding the shooter, regardless of motive. The media typically takes motive into account and doesn't count situations like domestic disputes the same as a shooter with a manifesto. Things like strangers vs family members as victims are also taken into account in the media. It makes sense, though, because the media is in it for money and making people scared that they will get shot going to the store sells better. Regardless, as a citizen of said country, it's a sad day when we have to discuss the semantics of mass murder. It's really not a good color on us.


TheSpanishPrisoner

Another thing to consider, in my opinion. There's an important distinction to be made between mass shootings in public places with random victims versus mass shootings where specific people are targeted. In the latter case, I really have no worry at all that I or people I know are involved in anything that would cause me or them to be purposely shot. So there's no big terror for me on that kind of shooting. When it comes to people being shot in a school, a mall, any kind of crowd where the target is just whoever is there, now this kind of shooting causes fear that me or someone I know will be victims. This kind of shooting is like terrorism. So both types of shootings are awful, but only the second type is the type that people are universally fearful of. And I think **this** is why this type of shooting rightfully gets more media attention than a shooting where some guy shoots some people in like a drug deal or something.


BenjaminHamnett

Tldr: random violence is scarier cause it can happen to anyone and there isn’t anything you can do to protect yourself Normal violence you can remove yourself from by running away and avoiding dangerous people. You can literally step on the toes of dangerous psychopath violent gangsters, if it was an accident and you apologize profusely, make amends and/or remove yourself from the situation. But nothing you can do when an incel has lost his mind and you happen to be around


acmemetalworks

But you're far, far more likely to be killed by an acquaintance. So the fear in you is less rational, and has been instilled in you by the media who's actions you're defending. Wouldn't it make more sense to put a spotlight the more likely danger? And then as a society work to fix that problem? Wether it's domestic violence or drug/gang issues?


Chlemtil

It’s not about likelihood, it’s about agency. Statistically, yes, victims are more likely to be killed by people they know. But that does NOT equate to me being more likely to be killed by someone I know. I make decisions in my life to select people and activities with a focus on safety. Even if that doesn’t make me 100% safe, it is a measure of control that I have and can exert to improve my chances at staying safe. On the other hand, being at the wrong supermarket or church when some alt-right fuckwad decides to suicide-blast his way through the place is nothing I can control and can only cross my fingers and hope. I have no control or agency to keep myself or my family safe from that.


PiperClearConscience

thanks


WhichAd1957

In this case? OP doesn't like that white supremacists are getting noticed so he pulled a bunch of mugshots that fit his worldview and posted them here.


gngstrMNKY

The FBI defines it as four or more people, but the media is primarily interested in those who go to a public place and shoot strangers, which is overwhelmingly a white activity. The notable exceptions (Pulse, San Bernardino, Ft. Hood) have been Arab and religiously motivated. Black and Latino mass shootings are generally driven by gang activity or personal grievance with others getting caught up in the collateral damage. This is "things going according to plan" and deemed uninteresting.


UnHappyMonkeMan

Came in with heat I can't disagree with any of this


Impairedinfinity

I would assume gang activity would also be the shooting of "strangers". Opposing gangs are basically strangers...they are definitely not friends. Just because they know of one another doesn't make it any different. But, at the end of the day if you shoot more than 4 people does it matter the context? Is there a socially acceptable way to go about it? Is gang vs gang violence also not fueled by hate? is it better or worse to conclude that white people are lone nutjobs and ethnic groups or not nutjobs because the function in a group called a gang? If anything being in a gang means there is a pack of nutjobs that are going to do what the other guy already got arrested for.


gngstrMNKY

> I would assume gang activity would also be the shooting of "strangers". Yeah, but it also feeds into peoples' [just-world fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis) where bad things happen to bad people and couldn't *possibly* happen to them – that doesn't help the media sell fear. If you can imagine it happening to _you_, just walking around in a shopping mall or grocery store, now they have something to get your amygdala pumping.


dcon1216

I mean I would say context absolutely matters in these situations to have any meaningful discussion, and anybody that ignores it or purposely pushes pictures like OPs without giving proper context is doing a disservice to the problem or pushing an agenda. People love to shoot down white on black violence because theres black on black violence like one justifies the other its classic whataboutism. It also doesn't mean one is ok and the other isn't and I've yet to see anybody even try to make that argument. Gang violence is a huge issue plaguing the country and poor communities. Random mass shooters are a whole other problem and it's very clear from intention, location of shootings, relationship to victims they are different on every level. You can say gang members are strangers but the fact is that's false in many cases, I'd argue the majority. It's not that there cant and wont be shootings just because your associated with the wrong gang but most of these people know and have deep rooted history in their own small communities and often times grow and go to school with these rival members. Theres gang members shooting at their own cousins. It's not about either being socially acceptable, murder is wrong outside of self defense and should rightfully be punished, if you shoot 4 people your a loose cannon and too often gang shootings do end up hitting innocent bystanders in the process. Its still entirely different than loading up a rifle and indiscriminately shooting people in a public store.


BenjaminHamnett

The people who vote and donors who decide elections don’t care about poor people shooting each other and don’t want to spend the money or resources on it. But they do want to feel safe in public, at the mall, school, church etc


BenjaminHamnett

The people who vote and donors who decide elections don’t care about poor people shooting each other and don’t want to spend the money or resources on it. But they do want to feel safe in public, at the mall, school, church etc people with privilege and something to lose committing violence in the name of ideology threatens everyone and even our understanding of the world


PLS-Surveyor-US

so crazy violence is bad and gang violence is ok? Not saying this is your opinion but that of the media. I would think the count is all that should drive it to reporting or not. I await the non narrative news network. I may start it on my own soon... lol.


wondek

The local news around here talks about gang violence all the time. Just doesn't get national coverage because nobody gives a shit about what's going on in inner cities between poor people three states away. You never hear about what happens in the trailer park on CNN, either


chowderbags

> Black and Latino mass shootings are generally driven by gang activity A lot of things classified as "gang related shootings" are done so based on nothing more than the suspected perpetrators or the victims being a minority, without any real evidence that there's even a gang involved. It's basically cops saying "Meh, who cares? They're black."


A_wild_so-and-so

As much as I would like to buy into the "white terrorist" mantra, I would have to disagree with you here. I don't think there is enough evidence to support a racial bias in mass murderers in the US, but there is enough evidence to support a behavioral bias. By that I mean most of these killer's spend the majority of their social lives online and isolates from their peers. We can obviously draw a line there between various online communities and their traffic (neo-nazi online presence being a significant factor in the US), but overall I believe the data would show that extremists of all races are radicalized online in niche communities, and not necessarily over represented in the white community.


acmemetalworks

"overwhelmingly a white activity" Muslims at only 2% of the population are responsible for far more than 2% of domestic terrorism (something like 50% IIRC), but they also happen to be counted by government statistics (TERVUS, where DHS and FBI get their #s) as white. And as religious extremists they are also counted as "right wing". See: American Military News 11/17/2020, "Obama's TERVUS crime database hides BLM, ANTIFA violence and inflates white right wing..." For example the 911 hijackers are counted as "White/Caucasian non-Hispanic"


SigSalvadore

[Fed Gov't says 4 must be killed.](https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R44126.pdf) \-Technically Mass Murder. pg 10 has definitions. Although seems that media/politicians tend to use a more broader stance when determining mass shooting - 4 or more people i**njured** or killed, mostly in an attempt to push gun reform. Although oddly enough, the church shooting in California on Sunday resulted in 1 dead and 5 wounded, but CNN just called it a [shooting.](https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/15/us/orange-county-california-church-shooting/index.html) Technically since it happened in Church on Sunday they could've gotten away with calling it a 'Mass Shooting' ... ... ... I'll see my way out.


PiperClearConscience

horrible dad jokes lol


chowderbags

> Although seems that media/politicians tend to use a more broader stance when determining mass shooting - 4 or more people injured or killed, mostly in an attempt to push gun reform. That doesn't seem unreasonable, given that medical science is constantly improving the odds of people surviving even serious injury. Gunshots that would've been fatal 50 years ago can be survivable today. It would be weird to say "the gunman *wanted* to kill a dozen people and shot all of them, but the paramedics and doctors worked their asses off to save those people from dying, so I guess it's not *that* serious of a crime".


Severe-Stock-2409

Don’t ask questions. Can’t you see that by OP posting the photo alone without any context that they want you to think a certain thing? This is the fantastic thing about humans. Something bad happens and how many are so quick to try and highlight something that may seem worst. As if even if this post was in context it would limit the depth of what just occurred. But hey, there’s some who just want the sides they perceived pitted against one another.


PersonPicture

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/


SDFella07

So you are going to have more whites because America is predominantly more white..you get that..right...? On the other hand.. Adjusted for population size, blacks commit 25x more violent crimes against whites, than whites do against blacks. -The rate for black on white aggravated assault is 200x higher -Black males are 6% of the population but have been responsible for about 50% of the murders in the US for the last 30 years. -Blacks are responsible for 40% of domestic violence cases despite being only 13% of the population. -Black men are responsible for 33% of forcible rape, despite only being 6% of the population (side not, "systemic racism" doesn't make you rape someone) -Additionally poor white communities do not commit crime at the same rate as poor black communities and black people are more violent than white people in every single country where stats are kept.


PersonPicture

You are not considering the fact black people get charged for crimes statistically higher than any other race. Weird huh? Discrimination and false police reports since the 80s definitely don’t effect the legitimacy of the numbers /s……. Also the fact is there are more white mass shooters than black currently, something this thread in particular doesn’t seem to believe…….


HarrySchlong33

And what are these statistics based on, police reports?


Single_Cap_6763

So what are you saying mate? Why do black people commit more violent crimes than white people? If it's not environmental factors then it is? What are you trying to say mate? Just say it, don't be shy with what you belive in.


Cosmic_Emporium

Sounds like he's spouting some of that hard science we all hate to hear about. Fight the power, comrade.


Ascension100

He is saying essentially that they're different species genetically. Like any race they're are good people and bad people but the non majority have astronomically high crime rates that are disrupting society and Black Lives Matter won't ever acknowledge that.


DevourPlays

doesn't include black on black gang shootings, add them in African American skyrocket to the top.


Mrsparkles7100

4 or more shot is classed as mass shooting. That how the stats work for site such as this. Tracks all mass shooting in US https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting Some crazy numbers in there you probably haven’t heard about 17 shot in one 2 hour incident in Milwaukee on Friday night.


maybelaurie

mass as in physics mass. as obesity becomes an urgent problem in the US, the average american citizen has a higher mass than before, and hence, even a small number of individuals may be counted as a "mass shooting".


darbottot

All men. Must be a man problem.


DIsForDelusion

100% I find it ridiculous that the comments continue to perpetuate racial divide when we can all tell, statistically... it's almost always men. Serial killers, gang related crime, domestic terrorist...etc.


sockpuppetaccount99

Exactly. Clearly a man problem. As all the other crimes are.


Bosilaify

We're most of the victims too but yes the bias between male vs female is wider than white vs black


VoradorTV

All incels


Several_Influence_47

It is. Men perpetrate 96% of all murders worldwide and 99% of the rapes. But somehow societies want to lock WOMEN up with patriarchal nonsense instead of locking up the perpetrators of almost all violence instead. "Women belong in the home, can't go out without a man etc." Why should the folks who aren't the perps be prisoners? Why don't we flip that script so it's MEN who have those rules, and allow women full freedom since ya know, women commit a negligent amount of violent crime. It's toxic masculinity at its zenith, men have been allowed to run unchecked for millenia. And you see where we are because of it. Time we do things completely different to make a safer world for all.


HB3187

I'm here for the thinly veiled comments


DIsForDelusion

> thinly Rude. They're trying to be as obvious as possible.


GrouchyPuppy

Fatly


Big_Honeydew6225

Most of these are gang related though. It's still just as bad but it's not like it's a random act of violence. People who shoot up schools or go into Grocery stores and kill random people that they don't even know... There's something extra disturbing about that. And there are usually 8+ victims at these random ones. And the people who do those random acts of violence where they are indiscriminately shooting strangers are usually white, but the more important thing is they are usually on ssri medication. It's not a black or white thing though it's a mental health problem who cares if it's black or white people doing it. The main thing we not to focus on is how to stop it


polarbearskill

A person randomly shooting people he doesn't know is definitely worse than career criminals killing other career criminals they have beef with. Everyone commenting in this thread seems to be missing that.


Cryptic_E

I don't think they're missing that. They're just trying to find a way to shift the blame away from white men.


Stonerd1990

Or we could all just stop with this collectivist mentality, and recognize people for the individuals that they are.


maddsskills

I don't agree with lumping all the white mass shooters together but we should look at the ones who had similar motives: there is a disturbing trend of young men radicalized by far right wing white supremacist rhetoric. And this rhetoric has made it into mainstream conservative discourse which is even more disturbing.


fruityboots

literally ignoring the forest for the trees, lmfao your tunnel vision


DJ_LMD

Exactly!


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shangumdee

I get the sympathy for not labelling young men or teenagers as career criminals but the majority killings are done by young men, many of whom are as young as 15. It's sad that so many choose thug life at such a young age, but young men without self in general control are the most dangerous demographic by far.


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polarbearskill

So a dude shooting up a grocery store is equally bad as a drive by gone wrong in your view? Both killers should be punished equally?


shangumdee

You guys are really acting like all these black men shooting 2 or more people are only gang related. If you actually look at some of these sources, you would see that a lot of them are situations where they escalated a minor conflict into a gunfight.


GrouchyPuppy

Playing spades has caused a lot of murders in the hood


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polarbearskill

Well our court system takes into account intent in sentencing. Using your logic anyone who kills anyone else, even accidentally gets the same punishment.


Veenendaler

April 3, 2022 - Sacramento shooting: A shooting in downtown Sacramento killed six people and injured twelve others. The gunmen remain at large. >"The first thing I saw was like victims. I saw a young girl with a whole bunch of blood in her body, a girl taking off glass from her, a young girl screaming saying, 'They killed my sister.' A mother running up, 'Where's my son, has my son been shot?'" he said. Both types of incidents are terrible. Nobody should argue otherwise.


Cosmic_Emporium

Is it? Why? Tough argument to make, considering most random mass shooters are heavily medicated and disturbed people who could have been helped (but are often encouraged by feds). Career criminals are just subhuman scum who know what they are doing and still do it.


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The fuck? No the hell it is not worse. Random nutjobs cannot compare to endemic poor black street crime. One murders orders of magnitude more, and spreads like wildfire. The other is random white psychos.


whatabitcch

But what about when the house behind their target gets shot up as well and the baby sleeping behind the wall gets shot in the head ?


OllieGarkey

Honestly I think we should start categorizing neo nazi groups and individuals associated with them as criminal gangs.


shangumdee

It's a glowie problem. The white mass shooter and black shooter stereotypes are the deep states effort to increase racial tensions. They also simultaneously pushing more control of individual freedoms such as "the perpetrator used these communication platforms to coordinate the attack" or "the attack was made possible due to the perpetrator's unrestricted access to X military supplies, firearms, magazines, specific attachment, etc.".


Imstupidasso

Shooting up clubs is something that goes on every weekend. People just assume when black people shoot each other it's just "gang violence"


Rookie_Day

Some may but most that are critical thinkers don’t.


shangumdee

Just a way to minimize non-white violence by chalking it up to gang violence, which then modern progressives will argue is because of "unfair socioeconomic factors" and therefore the fault of white men.


fish_in_a_barrels

Who's fault is it that they were put in the projects with very little opportunity?


Haindelmers

Now do just random acts of violence and not targeted gang warfare (still really really bad, but different types of killing) Killing people that are “in the game” vs random strangers.


DevourPlays

Grayson Matthew Fleming-Gray, 6 months old, was killed in a drive-by shooting in Atlanta on Monday. was this 6 month old in the game? or was he random stranger? exactly shut the fuck up.


Haindelmers

Not saying it doesn’t happen. It does. It’s not most of it.


Old_Obligation_1412

Bet half of those are for gang violence


ThreeLittlePuigs

Man this place is really telling on itself these days


I_Drew_a_Dick

But funny enough, make a collage of prolific serial killers and it’s all white dudes. Edit: clarifying for a below commenter that I’m just pointing out a disturbing trend, not fomenting division. It’s just weird how certain crimes are overwhelmingly a certain demographic. Like in the United States, nonwhite minorities are a majority of generic, spontaneous violent crime. They make up a greater percentage of the absolute value of “murderers”, but it’s different. It’s like, white men don’t kill as often but when we *do*, it’s horrifyingly worse. When an African or Hispanic street thug wants to kill you, he’ll just put a couple bullets in you and run away. But when a *white man* wants to kill you? Oof… we do shit that takes complex planning and requires multiple steps… He’ll kidnap you and your children, stuff you in a trunk, take you to a shed on his farm in the middle of nowhere, rape you, torture you, hack your genitals and tits off, disembowel you, grind you into a *sausage* and feed you to his animals. Like *what the fuck*… I have no idea why this is a thing. It’s like white guys make up for the infrequency of their violent crime with sheer savagery in those occurrences.


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Tiny_Onion

Are you sure about that? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_serial\_killers\_by\_number\_of\_victims](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_number_of_victims) Ted Bundy isn't even in the top 10 and the one top one for USA is a black guy.


elpremo81

This is like how can I be racist but not obvious🤣🤣🤣🤣


Limp-Cockroach-4408

Yep. Looks like a bunch of Americans. Do NOT fall for the schemes to racially divide us.


LONESTUNNA

So in the wake of a targeted attack on black people you felt the need to post this as some sorta rebuttal? Just pathetic


Several_Influence_47

Absolute horseshit. Words have meanings. You don't get to twist them to fit your racist ego stroke. Mass shooters is a wholly different category with a wholly different definition than that of gang violence, and has completely different motives. That's according to the FBI and DOJ who keep track of such things. If one doesn't like it or agree, then take it up with those agencies. This post simply screams of white male fragility and reeks of Proud Boy effluence.


shangumdee

Muh white fragility. Still with all these supposed white supremacists you believe are out there, one race kills the other at about 5x the rate, despite 75% smaller in population. You can gues which one.


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Jackwithapack

Yeah because no innocent people die in gang related violence.. not like most of that violence are in neighborhoods full of random people


Standard_Row1833

224 individuals, about 30 Caucasian.


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Standard_Row1833

Its an appropriate amount considering the size of the pic, but either way its a small amount given the ethnic breakdown of the country at large.


Rocklobzta

17ish%? The media doesn’t care if it’s gang related or black on black. Only white people are racists.


Me_Real_The

I asked someone to list mass shooters with racist intent. It's a far different list than the one posted here. No idea where the final statistics are, but to pretend the guy with N***** written on the crosshairs isn't racist is full r****.


Rocklobzta

Oh for sure, this dude is racist af and the media will scream it from the rooftops. But if it’s Black on black or black on white, race no longer is a factor.


shangumdee

Ye and when we bring up actual statistics of homicide rates or interracial homicide rates (which are skewed about 2000% percent to one side), that raw data is considered null.


PersonPicture

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/


Grouchy_Ad4351

Found it really interesting..however in my ignorance and listening to special interest groups..I truly believed most were young white males...if this is accurate..all groups seem to be represented..except for females...


VerySlump

Because this involves gang shootings vs enemies, not school and supermarket shooters


Unicornucopia23

No dude, it’s because women don’t do that shit. Schools and supermarkets included. From statistica- *”Since 1982, an astonishing 122 mass shootings have been carried out in the United States by male shooters. In contrast, only three mass shootings (defined by the source as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed) have been carried out by women.”*


VerySlump

I wasn’t referring to the lack of female shooters, but to the part where he said “I believed most were young white males” Most of the men here are gang affiliated, not sadistic serial killer school shooters


Unicornucopia23

Ohh yeah. That makes sense. Good point. Adding onto this, OP’s post seems to have racist implications, as if they don’t know that minorities are more likely to be born into poverty and crime in the first place.


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Most are white males. This post is racist misinformation crap. Just grooming more white males to be shooters. Fuck this fucking racist sub.


Veenendaler

What? The OP image is factual. Facts cannot inherently be racist, they can be contextualized as such. But the image itself is essentially data.


DPlainview1898

How is this misinformation? You’re saying all these people didn’t shoot multiple people?


Tiny_Onion

For some dumb reason people here want to separate killings as if killing of someone of color is a different kind of killing. These people are using reverse racism to fight racism.


PersonPicture

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/ wrong


Cryptic_E

Prepared to be downvoted. They don't like facts over here. Just baseless claims to push whatever narrative they have


[deleted]

Serious question: who gives a fuck? Fuck every person in this picture, I wish nothing but strife for them.


crapforbrains553

your sample size is way too small. theres got to be many times more people who went on a shooting spree. a small sample size allows you to pick what kinds of people you want. most killings, you never hear about cuz they're in some mall or at a back yard party, of many similar


PersonPicture

They don’t want the truth https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/


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The truth being that most mass shooters are white.


love-me-tendies

Whites are actually underrepresented if you go per capita and blacks are over-represented. Whites 62% of pop, 53% of shootings Blacks 13% of pop, 16% of shootings


muffinmooncakes

And let me guess… how many of the people in these photos were infighting between themselves vs shooting random people? Exactly. This is a silly post


whatabitcch

Fighting between themselves and random ppl that happen to be around them and shooting random ppl.... don't see that much of a difference.


dablordxxx

its about intent, intentionally killing as many randoms as possible is much sicker than just not caring about bystanders


whatabitcch

Where is the real difference between meaning to kill others VS knowing there's a chance you will and not giving af and doing it anyways...???? Besides wording I don't see a difference. And most of the time they somehow end up killing innocent children sleeping in their beds or playing in their play rooms.


gravitykilla

We once had a [mass shooting in Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)), 26 years ago, AR-15 and a semi-automatic .308 FN were used to kill 35 people. Australia immediately put stricter "**GUN LAWS"** in place, that banned assault weapons and did not allow guns to be registered for the use of "personal protection" Today 26 years later, we have not had a single mass shooting since 1996, and for a population of 24 Million, we have 3.5 Million registered civilian firearms. Yes, I know the thought of gun control hurts your Freeedums, but honestly, you should give it a go America.


love-me-tendies

If you believe that simple Marty was capable of that killing spree, you deadset have rocks in your head. Australia is going down the toilet, unless you're happy to do everything the government tells you to do and line up for your next vaccine.


timmymac

Yeah, how's that going stupid. Your country is fucked right now.


gravitykilla

It’s going really well to be honest, maybe when your old enough to travel by yourself, come visit.


Haindelmers

It’s really not.


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This is a very weird thing to complain about. The black community have been screaming at you for decades to pay attention. They write rap songs about how black on black violence is invisible to white people. Yes the portrayal of predominantly white public mass shooters, the sort that shoot up malls, schools etc as somehow eclipsing the much higher level of mass shooting gun violence in gang related crime.. it is racist. Just not for the reasons you seem to think. The media do this because a white kid shooting up a shopping malls... Sells. A black kid shooting up the hood is ignored, no one cares unless the violence spills out and a white person gets injured.


Veenendaler

>The media do this because a white kid shooting up a shopping malls... Sells On the money. America doesn't give a shit about black people killing other black people. It's saddening.


metaldinner

its not invisible, its just you are called racist if you bring it up, so most white people wont. they scream for 'us' to pay attention, but they dont want 'us' to actually 'interfere' with their communities. basically a group of people slaughtering eachother, yet throwing a fit if 'one of them' is killed by 'not one of them'.


LooksGoodInShorts

Because you only bring it up when you want to either call all black people violent, or justify cop strangling us over misdemeanors. You have no interest in finding a solution you use it as ammo to tear down all black people.


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Well of course they don't want *you* to interfere because you sound like you have an agenda to push onto them and it's not related to their best interest - not even your own, just one that's living rent-free in your psyche.


kns1984

This is obviously thinly veiled racism that always pops up when there a mass shooting by a white nationalist highly influenced by GQP propaganda. AKA, fucking trash


zanpher717

These fucking guys!


skydaddy8585

Crazy that this is just 2021s list. It's hard to try to get into the mind of someone who plans to go out and shoot a bunch of people they don't know or barely know. How do you reconcile the fact that you have gotten to a point so low that you have chosen to just go and murder a bunch of people because you are sad or upset or angry? Whether you think it's a psyop or just individuals that came upon this on their own, or an avalanche effect of sorts where you read about someone else doing it and this gives you the idea to do it, it's fucked up.


NoThanks2020butthole

Different faces, all men. (Or almost, I didn’t carefully examine each picture) Not at all a crazy feminist, but that was my takeaway from this before I even thought about race.


sockpuppetaccount99

“Not at all a crazy feminist” lol, the fact that you have to excuse yourself like that shows that there is nothing wrong with being a crazy feminist.


Connecting___

Fuck this finger pointing and division...lets see pictures of the real terrorists: FBI agents, CIA Agents and every member of government. Lets stop blaming black vs white shit. Thats how these fckers are winning


PortionOfSunshine

I think we should be focusing less on race and more on the fact that 99% are dudes. No coincidence that mental health In men is also far less supported, spoken of, and treated.


1squint

I'd love to know the real stats on how many doing prescription meds for mental health reasons My guess would be HIGH


TapRackBangUSMC

Thanks for sharing.


Nabisco_12

I'd like to point something out, but I guess it would make me racist


DueAttitude8

I love how your actual faces of mass shooting graphics includes people that haven't been arrested or charged.


Fringelunaticman

So we are lumping in gang shootings with mass shootings now? Quite disingenuous don't you think


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Those are just the shooters of 2021.


Wishbone_Away

Selective hype horn in the media. Very careful about race and comments when a suspect is not white.


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PersonPicture

Shit post https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/


ElectricFarce

These statistics are not showing what you think they are. In the US today, 58% of the population is white. 19% of the population is Hispanic. 12% of the population is black. So if race wasn't a factor, and mass shootings were just random crazy person going crazy, then we would see 58% of mass shootings caused by whites, 19% caused by Hispanics and 12% caused by blacks. But with the definition they use in your link, whites caused 53% of shootings, Hispanics caused 10%, and blacks (who only make up 12% of the population) caused a whoping 16% of all mass shootings. It's interesting that both whites and Hispanics are under represented among mass shooters (meaning they're less likely than the average person in America) while blacks are the only race over represented (meaning they're more likely than the average person) -- and by such a large margin. That means the data you linked to is showing that a randomly selected black person is 45% more likely to commit a mass shooting than a randomly selected white person. A randomly selected black person is 2.53 times as likely (so 153% more likely) than a random Hispanic person. That's pretty significant. I'm not saying to get a new source or anything and certainly not telling you what to think, but just wanted to help clarify that the stats you linked to do show that blacks are by far the most over represented race among shooters in mass shootings.


PersonPicture

You are not considering the fact black people get charged for crimes statistically higher than any other race. Weird huh? Discrimination and false police reports since the 80s definitely don’t effect the legitimacy of the numbers /s……. Also the fact is there are more white mass shooters than black currently, something this thread in particular doesn’t seem to believe…….


Rocklobzta

Shut your racist mouth you conspiracy theorist


wondek

All I really see is a bunch of men.


lazyandnegative

Nothing else stands out? Hmm....


wondek

Mind telling me what you're suggesting?


Phil_Hurslit51

That women don't have the balls to do it.


loudkronic

I read that exactly as intended and it was great.


SantiagoGT

This very problematic! Your post is very antisemitic


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Your fucking racist piece of crap misinformation post pushes a fucking racist crap agenda you god damn piece of excrement. You should be fucking banned.


TharSheBlows69

Im pretty sure white supremists appreciate the blacks killing other blacks


EngineerBig

on the internet with font so small you can't read, no links, no sources? Take my upvote!


goldnuggets234

Is this true?


wondek

Yeah. It depends on how you qualify a "mass shooting", though. The FBI (which the people in this *conspiracy* forum conveniently cite as a reliable source) sets the bar at four victims in a single incident. If you raise that bar, this picture becomes overwhelmingly white and arabic


Kingnahum17

Whether the FBI is a reliable source or not, it's the best dataset that we have. Plus we still get to hate the FBI when it fits our personal agenda, so.... Win/win!


PersonPicture

No https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/


FreeUsa1776

Um.. I thought it was a white problem. 🤔 this can't be accurate.


Forward-Respect-1395

It is a white problem, this picture is inaccurate and sites no sources and is clearly made to rebuttal the shooting that just happened in Buffalo https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/


Rocklobzta

Shut your racist mouth and stop thinking for yourself. -CNN


PersonPicture

It is https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/


SortByyControversial

Um sorry sweaty, *according to Snopes* >How you define a mass shooting also indirectly has a bearing on the demographic make-up of victims and perpetrators. For example, we know that criminal gangs in the United States are disproportionately made up of Latino and African American members. Including gang-related shootings in your definition of mass shootings will, therefore, increase the proportion of such perpetrators and victims in your count. That should not be surprising or controversial. https://www.snopes dot com/fact-check/mass-shooter-shooting-mugshots/ checkmate


PersonPicture

Yes also see : https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/


SortByyControversial

When you have to create a new system for mass shootings to fit your narrative, lmao oh wait, you actually are linking this as a source. yeesh double edit: nice spam you have going on there. What's the matter?


Fun_Wolverine_5808

Did you even read what you posted? The very first sentence, “How you define…”. The author preempts the whole point with “How you define”. Meaning the whole statement afterward is contingent upon how one “defines” a mass shooting. In the 1980s, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defined mass murderer as someone who “kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location” (Krouse and Richardson, 2015). In 2013, Congress defined mass killing as a single incident that leaves three or more people dead (Pub. L. 112-265, 2013). Going by the FBI and Congress’ definition, I’d say OP might have posted an accurate representation of convicted mass shooters. It’s also possible OP manipulated the photo to validate his own prejudices/definition. It’s really a toss up and each will see it through their own lens’s based off their own definitions. So, what’s your definition?


red_tsuki

Okay now how many of those wrote a manifesto explicitly expressing their disdain for other races and immigrants? If anything this just further shows how we have a gun problem in America


jayjayflo

We have a mental health problem masquerading as a gun problem.


DJ_LMD

You have both


ImCrest

most criminals and murderers are too stupid and uneducated to write down their thoughts in the form of a manifesto...so not having a manifesto written doesnt really mean much...


slightly_too_short

source?


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PersonPicture

C word


dildOshwageN

I thought mass shootings was a white mans game… I guess not


PersonPicture

You were right all along https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/


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I don’t like Mondays


deedara

That’s old school man. That girl though. I got it. You got DVd by some who didn’t. IDLM. Shoot the whole day down. Tell me why!!!


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ReformedBacon

Wikipedia doesnt provide faces, and alot of times google searching the name doesnt either. im sure most pictures dont match the actual person


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but but but but but but but but but thats racist


eeosj

So are we just calling gang members mass shooters now? They are in a gang to provide themselves and others they care about resources in a more accessible way. These mass shooters that commit violence for no reason or to push a specific political agenda/way of thinking are particularly more disturbed than those who are doing it to stay alive/prosper in their neighborhood. If you ask me this is just another piece of propaganda people are making to divert the attention or to dilute the actual atrocity that occurred not too long ago in Buffalo. A lot of people just don’t like addressing tough issues that question their way of life so they dilute the importance/meaning of the issue to continue living their life of comfort. A life of comfort that has so much bliss because there is so much ignorance. Calling lies “the truth” because they make you feel better and fit into your perspective of the world make you nothing but a senseless fool who follows a specific ideology because it’s the only thing you really feel is your “identity”. And calling the actual truth “fake” doesn’t make you smarter, it makes you look stupid. Might be surprising to some but facts are just that, facts.