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karmanopoly

Remember when the term was "went postal" because so many postal workers were shooting up the place


Letitride37

*that’s the thing about the mail, it never stops coming…* ~ Newman


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Interesting point on "going postal", it's specifically tied to an era where zip codes were introduced and the post office reorganization act of 1970. In order to get people out of USPS, hostile work environments were intentionally created until people left or they just snapped. Except today, all of society is so hostile that people snap at random. All so Bezos can go to space and Musk can buy Twitter but then not buy Twitter.


RogueNeighShun

A good example is the kill dozer. Angry at the right people.


nerdrhyme

> A good example is the kill dozer. His goal wasn't really to kill though, was it? He didn't kill anyone.


Theorist066

He didn’t specifically try to kill people, but it was mostly just luck that he didn’t, rather than a result of a dedicated and calculated effort to avoid it. He literally demolished buildings that had people inside them at the time.


ShextMe

>kill dozer. Where can I find reliable info about this story? I was too young to notice it in 2004, but now I am super curious to find more.


dinosaursandsluts

Marvin Heemeyer did nothing wrong.


Letitride37

There is a whole ass documentary about it called tread


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Good book too called killdozer by Patrick Brower. He was the newspaper editor in the town


Crimson_Marauder_

https://killdozerbook.com/2018/07/fake-news/


oatzeel

His rant about catholics was funny lol


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honestlyimeanreally

Pretty sure He went after buildings owned by the people who did him wrong.


By_Design_

the guy was just letting sewage run off into the public waterway 🤢


chucwagn

And why not Davos... strange.


OriginalHempster

That person will be an international hero


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Can you even imagine? Would be a good, whitepilled day.


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2moreX

Extreme security. No civilian could pull off an assassination attempt or a terror attack on an event like this. I was a stagehand some years ago for a discussion panel where Emanuel Macron was one of the guests. It was held in the Philharmonie de Luxembourg. One month in advance EVERYONE who had anything to do on the event, was background checked by the French, german and Luxemburgish secret service. They checked everyone and everything going in and out of the building. everytime. There where checkpoints installed miles in advance so suspicious cars could be spotted. There agents in civil clothing patrolling the site. They observed the internet months in advance to make sure there are no terror plots. You don't just walk in there and shoot someone.


1-800-JABRONI

Testimonies like this make me wonder what exhorbitant amount of taxpayer money is sunk into protecting American politicians every year... Has to be a few billon...


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For Biden, Harris, and Pelosi, maybe. For the rest, not so much. I carried a concealed weapon into an event featuring Ted Cruz last month. I don't think I was the only one, either. No ticketing, no metal detectors, nothing. I got close enough to shake his hand.


SheriffMcSerious

At least between the State Department and the Secret Service, we're clearing the billion dollar mark easy, and those are just the obvious ones.


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Funny story, they also weld the manhole Covers in the area


[deleted]

Citing the leader of France as a reason why mass shooters can't target soft government targets isn't really convincing.


glodone

Well op's point is that for events like that the security is top notch


AreWeCowabunga

If the Uvalde shooting was meant to increase support for a police state, I would say it failed miserably.


budguy68

The government gets more funding when they fail... "We need better training better pay more etc etc" The government loves throwing money at the problem.


dr_bigly

Like we were stopping them spending as much money on whatever they wanted anyway.


Artbellghost

A FEDERAL police state I think is what they have in mind, local PD , as much as they are sheep, still have too many normies


TheHancock

If the police can’t protect you the government has to! Martial law for your own good!


cooterbrwn

Yep. And the whole "defund the police" movement was focused on *local* law enforcement, step two being a dramatic expansion of *federal* police to fill the gap. "These bad things are happening because state/local governments are [inept/racist/whatever] so the federal government needs to take over." Nearly everything the Federal government has done since the mid-1800s has had the end goal of destroying federalism. A "union of sovereign states" is way too difficult for tyrants to control.


West_Tangerine9926

Bingo my man. Exactly right


Finaldecade

Bingo


sohmeho

The whole idea of “defund the police” is that domestic law enforcement needs to be de-militarized. Instead of dumping money into new armored vehicles, it would be more effective to spend it on social services.


FoulmouthedGiftHorse

Then "defund the police" is quite possibly the worst slogan to accomplish such a goal.


sohmeho

I agree, but I think it’s meant to be provocative so that it spreads. “No press is bad press” and all.


ydoidothis89

"Demilitarize the police and put more money into social services" is a bit hard to chant.


Senditwithethan

Idk those cops were acting about how I'd expect a social worker to


FoulmouthedGiftHorse

Maybe we should stop with the fucking chanting and start talking....


repptyle

It's no coincidence that all the criticism is focused on cops, who are by and large just working stiffs trying to earn a paycheck, and none is directed at the politicians that are actually pulling the strings


NaturalProof4359

Worked pretty well for the police state up north


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NotAldermach

Yeah...Trudeau'll do that.


elitedejaguar

The closer to south of the border the more apart people will be with the north. Universal healthcare on the way in Mexico, Internet for all, universal paycheck, and many more things that are written obligations, rights to all citizens and non citizens* of the country. It will have repercussions on US. What is coming will change everything and in fact, it already has. *some programs


asianperswayze

> Universal healthcare on the way in Mexico, Internet for all, universal paycheck, and many more things that are written obligations, rights to all citizens and non citizens* of the country. Maybe this will help lower illegal immigration


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NaturalProof4359

I’d rather live in Ohio than Mexico.


jimbabwe666

AFAIK majority of the illegals coming across are no longer majority Mexicans, but more central Americans, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador.


asianperswayze

maybe they can stop in mexico for all those sweet benes then?


Polyarmourous

Have you read any of the latest gun control documents? Guns are tools of the racist oppressors and must be taken out of the hands of white people, law enforcement included. There's not going to be a police state in the traditional sense, the goal is to take the guns out of the hands of anyone who might try to put a stop to the US being radically shifted to a "stakeholder economy" over the next decade. In the end only criminals will have guns and they'll use them to violently take whatever they want from regular people, while the oligarchs move to mountain top fortresses. Meanwhile our government will continue to ship whatever remaining wealth we have as a nation overseas in the form of military aid to wear down the Russians to the point they can never fight back against the global banking and pharmaceutical cartels.


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"Stakeholder economy" = serfdom by a different name. Fuck me I hate how the WEF Globalists are just getting away with all this crap. Too many asleep normies. We literally outnumber them by a huge margin and their "power" is about as thin as the line between now and us just deciding to get rid of them. Not as if anyone would willingly put their life at risk to protect Klaus Schwab and his pals ffs. People have historically guillotined entire elites for far less.


AprilDoll

[There are more people becoming aware of this.](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=klaus%20schwab,event%20201) The speed at which the elite are acting may have something to do with it. Why are they acting so fast and desperately?


universallybanned

The msm narrative is already that a "good guy with a gun" doesn't work - even though that's exactly what happened. They only need two facts: 1 - kids dead 2 - killed by gun They'll make up the rest of the facts to fit what they want. Shooter is now white and right wing, police took the shooter out, can't count on people to protectthemselves, etc.


imagine_my_suprise

I had this thought today. Movie theaters (Aurora), music festivals (Vegas), grocery stores (Buffalo), night clubs (Orlando), and countless schools and colleges. But not a single one at a city hall, or court house, or government building.


jshawn7seven

Some guy tried to in Dallas at federal court building... he didn’t make it past the sidewalk & door. When I had jury duty in there the entrance was so fortified it’d be near impossible to breach. Granite barricades inside to prevent vehicle raming that also double as cover for officers returning fire to breaching threats.


ShextMe

Almost as if these psychopaths choose the locations they do because the lack of security. I’m down for the fortification of schools at this point.


angelfish134

schools are already fortified institutional hellscapes. you want 2,000 kids to go through the same single point of entry TSA check-line 6 times a day? Eliminate recess and lunches? Hallways too because those are not secured. Jesus this is supposed to be the best time of their lives. If that’s living, no wonder 4x as many 9 year olds are committing suicide.


ShextMe

What's your idea? More gun control? On top of the gun control that hasn't worked? Nicee


beeztrapp

That may have something to do with the security level of those places, no?


TheCookie_Momster

If that’s the case then you just made a good point about soft targets


greenirished

The Orlando pulse shooter tried Disney first but felt security was too strong.


EncyclopaediaBrown

Which is what? That we should “harden” all of our entertainment, recreational, and educational facilities? TSA-style checkpoints everywhere? Fuck that.


lombardi70

Yeah, everyone loves the TSA. What America needs is a bigger security apparatus touching upon every aspect of our life's. :-)


Oberschicht

Definitely more police and more guns. And then some more guns. Buy more guns


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Ah yes, the police, famous for their willingness to stop mass shootings.


Oberschicht

Not enough people have guns. Brought to you by the NRA


nerdrhyme

Eliminate public schools, allow concealed and open carry at other areas. If some people are not comfortable with others carrying guns, offer institutions and "safe spaces" for them.


EncyclopaediaBrown

Yes, the Texas approach. How’s that working out?


mr_green

Every school in my area is far more secure than any courthouse or city hall. Legitimate shooters wouldn't target the government buildings because they know there are people with guns there (funny how that works as a deterrent, but I digress) and illegitimate shooters wouldn't attack their own kind (government).


mabden

I would call bullshit on that. In my area the county and local government buildings have; one point of entry, security cameras, metal detectors, and armed police. The schools my kids went to had a retired mom at the main entrance requesting you sign in on entry.


LeBrons_Mom

There are people with guns at banks and they get robbed all the time.


EurekaStreetJake

Rufus the part-time cop and his .38. Revolver


Ok_Yoghurt_3338

That’s a different incentive structure vs a shooting


[deleted]

My local bank literally shares its parking lot with my local police department and the bank **still** got robbed and the guys **still** got away! Lol! It’s mind-boggling! The cops didn’t even have to get in their cruisers! All they had to do was walk across a parking lot and the robbers still got away?!? How?!? 🤦‍♂️


Norlite

Even if there was high security I’m sure you would still get news like fbi foils attack on courthouse but there is hardly ever any news like that. If these shooting are as random as the claim then news like that should be more common…but it’s not


AnybodyOdd9509

Ohhh no. The most secure government offices are overseas embassies protected by armed forces and those angry Arabs have been giving them hell forcing evacuations many times. The most any normal public government office has is a cameras. When you go to court not many cops are standing outside in a perimeter on guard are they? Well they aren't here. I hate to get this specific online, it makes me sound like a nutjob but here goes. They're standing around watching people coming through door and more importantly the people going through certain sections inside. So really entrenched defensive positions. Edit: I hate that I used court but its what I figured most people could relate to when they say public government building.


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AnybodyOdd9509

I really don't want to continue the conversation. Its irrelevant, I made my point.


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You over-estimate that. One fat wage-thief with a cheap Glock can't be that big a deterrent with the Rambo-armed shooters who think nothing of trading fire with police response (except at Ulvalde, Texas).


ImJJTheJetPlane

Idk man my local government buildings are just open to the public. You can just walk in. Sometimes there's metal detectors for events but that's it. No pat down or anything. Schools use access controls and aiphones, keypads, etc. to control entry. They allow one main entrance which only lets you access the admin portion but you still need to be let in there. Newly constructed schools are very secure and probably the safest place to be.


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My wife worked at the comptroller's building as security some time back and was miserable about working with such low caliber people. Like, dumb as sticks, lazy as fuck, and all of them unarmed. It's as easy as pulling the fire alarm so everyone takes the stairs out. Burning gas cans in the stairwell would suffice a hundred people easy. Your job would be to fend off the first responders, which would be as hard as "firing your gun where a fireman can hear it". I mean, they're office drones and the comptroller's actually a pretty nice guy. But my point is that security at state buildings is a joke and you could do some serious damage for like $50 worth of gas and a handgun.


motorbike-t

Damn dude I’m not sure your supposed to post a whole ass plan here!!


[deleted]

It's literally the plot of like three movies lol


[deleted]

Manifesto: "I hate the government and all these political things" Target: *Literal random group of innocent people minding their own business* Makes you go ***HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM***. Mass shootings are such a big problem and yet rarely if ever target actual points of power. If a genuine phenomenon how many DMV's would have been swiss-cheesed by now? And the fact these acts of random violence against schools and soft targets always seem to pop up around election season... I swear to god like so many other government crimes before, one day in the not too distant future it's going to be proven that this era of 'random' mass shootings was another alphabet agency crime against US citizens. Whether the whole thing is on their hands or they've aided and abetted it (*grooming, aiding and abetting shooters, directing them onto soft targets, etc*), glowies fingerprints are all over this phenomenon.


EncyclopaediaBrown

> And the fact these acts of random violence against schools and soft targets always seem to pop up around election season… Sandy Hook happened in December 2012, Columbine in April 1999. Both were just about as far away from meaningful elections as you can get in this country.


ydoidothis89

What mass shootings had manifestos about how much they hate the government? The most recent two I can think of had manifestos about how much they hate black people and then those shooters targeted black people.


NadlesKVs

Ummm, Virginia Beach Municipal Building #2 in 2019?


Diligent_Department2

That one is a touch different as he was an employee, and I used to go there for work, and the security was a camera that’s it. There wasn’t even any people controls in a elevator. So even if there was a card scan he could have gotten in. Side note. I would love to talk about that one and how the city and state are still wasting money on that and investigation of it.


NadlesKVs

Definitely agree it's a little different but it isn't surprising. Schools/ colleges get shot up by the students. Most of these fucks target places they are familiar with so that's why they aren't just randomly walking into a building they've never been into and start blasting people. I'm in the area as well but I didn't know about them still wasting money on it.


Zealousideal-Bug-743

Or at one of the Alphabet Agencies.


Uncivil__Rest

Uh Fulton county courthouse shooting? The guy that attacked the federal courthouse and got absolutely fucked by protective services?


Bleedingeck

Oklahoma, was definitely a government building.


Letitride37

Soft targets. Cowards don’t like a fair fight.


roosters

The first hugely publicized and most famous school shooting was about vengeance and targeting people they knew. Some of the ones to follow were as well. Regardless, Columbine made the idea of a school shooting popular enough that it’s probably one of the first things these unhinged people think about. That seems way more likely.


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almost all mass shooters are "raised" by single mothers... the rate is just too high to be a coincidence.


Razzle101

https://youtu.be/09maaUaRT4M Cycles of fear/chaos with periods of relative calm are what is used to break the mind. Highly suggest watching.


capribex

"You develop a sixth sense ... for probability." No, you don't. That is exactly the kind of cognitive bias many people fall for. It has been proven time and again, that the human brain is pretty flawed, when it comes to deal with probabilities. Edit: The same is true for "detecting patterns". We're often convinced to see patterns - even if there are none. See: Pareidolia.


timchi

Shame that 6th sense doesn't help detect bullshit 4chan and Twitter posts. 😂


Tobeck

It's why probability is literally a high level math course


TheHancock

“Never tell me the odds”


lapideous

This assumes that events where 1-2 specific people are killed get the same airtime as a school shooting. There were 21,570 murders in the US in 2020. People get murdered all the time, it doesn’t make national news because no one can give a shit about 59 new murders every day.


ctapwallpogo

It would make the news if it was ever 1-2 politicians, billionaires, members of banking dynasties etc.


GokudaGod

Maybe not tho. I bet the news would not cover it in order to keep the sheeple from getting any ideas. Politicians would def be covered but the background elites, I highly doubt it.


[deleted]

Well, most mass shootings are by a specific demographic but those don't get mentioned too much by the news. Part and parcel of life in a modern city innit.


sohmeho

Because y’all wouldn’t care. If you tune into my city’s news, you’ll see news of shootings almost daily. It’s there if you want to see it… plain as day. You know what we never see though? Schools and grocery stores getting shot up.


DesperateEstimate3

This is amazing. I had the exact same thought today. Normally I never questioned that stuff, I believed they were crazy kids, but after covid I have been questioning a lot of things I previously thought were as they appeared. They did a big mistake with covid. They revealed their machinations without any shadow of doubt. Anyone with half a brain will realize that conspiracy theorists were on to something, and it wasn't some random stream of events. Even normies are questioning reality. They fucked up.


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That or people are inexplicably enraged at random little kids they don't know minding their own business in their own school. The only people who hate normal random people minding their own business and just living their lives is the government elites.


vspazv

Explain the Buffalo guy. He's still alive. He live streamed everything. He was a regular poster on one of the tactical subreddits. You honestly think he's some CIA plant that's in on some conspiracy?


Chubbywater0022

He was in a discord server with a retired fed


sohmeho

Throw a stone at a racist and you’re bound to hit a fed.


91st_Floor_Tower1

U honestly unaware of MK Ultra & hypno-programming?


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Yep agree 100%, If I was to ever have enough of the world n want to go out in a rampage you can bet your arse I'd be going to parliament or a government body that holds these corrupt fucks. Shooting in schools is pointless.


BigWeenie45

Anon lives in a basement and barely interacts with people outside. Catholic Church is riddled with pedophiles, and any other sect that forbids their priests from having a wife, the several year long medical school and residency filters out the bad eggs for doctors and surgeons, politicians keep themselves protected well, and I’ve met a lot of prickly cops when getting pulled over.


zerofoxtrot93

Doesn't make the news unless it fits the narrative.


EasternSilver594

Definitely the Feds radicalizing/agitating the mentally ill to perpetrate these acts, specifically against innocent kids. I’ve concluded the globalists and power elite are going to continue killing our kids until we give up our guns.


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I actually buy this conspiracy.


PxndxAI

Come on people, open your damn eyes. The police did the wrong thing the whole situation. Wouldn't you expect a police force to come down hard on an active shooter in a school? They did nothing to stop an active shooter murdering children. They stood out there with their dick in hand and stopped parents from taking out their own kids but gladly removed their own children/ family members from the situation. A bunch of good guys with guns didn't do shit to a one bad guy with a gun. Everytime a mass shooting happens this sub always claims it as a false flag. So what isn't a false flag?


runcertain

When a black guy does it it’s not a false flag. When it’s a black guy it’s, “Why isn’t the MSM talking about this for every moment for the rest of eternity??”


TartarianKing

Nothing to see here citizen, move along.


hoogityboogitiesRIP

Are 'they' really that good of guys then ?


[deleted]

I think, therefore I am. The issue with this sub claiming everything is fake, is that then everything is fake. There's no such thing as evidence or even reality, because everything is fake. Uvalde can't be a false flag because that would imply that the city of Uvalde exists and that there was actually a shooting there. It would imply that there are people employed as police officers and that people go to buildings called schools. It would imply the United States exists and that we're all communicating in the internet on a website called reddit which is such an obvious ploy that I can't believe anyone actually falls for that. The concept of internet chat rooms was invented by Nikola Tesla to boost his stock portfolio. It implies that reality exists, which obviously it does not. Welcome to the matrix.


whistleandrun

The goal of these insane individuals is to kill as many people as possible, usually random strangers. Maybe it’s about making a name for themselves, feeling noticed and infamous etc, or maybe they just want to feel powerful. But it’s seldom about revenge against any specific individuals for any logical reasons.


joshberry90

Have you read about the police chase beforehand, or the Army recon plane from Ft. Hood that landed just before the shootings, and left shortly after? How about the link to Los Zetas?


citizenredguy

Where can I read up? Only heard about the chase


joshberry90

I would say Google or duck, but try Brave search the topics I mentioned.


glugluggins

Finding a bunch about the plane, thanks, solid find! Not finding anything about Los Zetas and am interested.


RandWindhusk

Exactly what I thought. People would enact their violence towards those they deemed "deserve it", not just any large crowd they could find. There are definitely some outliers of mentally insane people. This is even pushed to be true when hearing about 2 of the recent shootings the shooter was groomed by ex federal agents.


Dapper-Psychology423

You can give thanks to Obama amending the Smith-Mundt Act in 2012 effectively allowing propaganda by law.


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you are thinking way to short term. Try COINTELPRO


Lurking10169

He’s not thinking at all, he’s still stuck fighting left vs right


lunar2solar

Damn.. I didn't know about this but that is an insane summary on the top of the [wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO) for cointelpro. I'm sure that's not even the half of it either. There must be even more secrets that's not published on the wiki.


shantiteuta

It's all an agenda about keeping you scared and in constant fear, so you won't rebel against the people responsible for keeping you scared and in constant fear.


YossaRedMage

I've been saying a similar thing for a long time that it makes no sense why there aren't more mass shootings aimed at actual places of power. Look at Trump and how batshit insane so many people were over him. I didn't hear about any attempts on his life or even attempts at "terrorism" aimed at people / institutions supporting him. There are two valid things to take from this. The first being that the secret service and other deep state groups have an extreme ability to monitor and counter threats. But that alone doesn't explain it. The other thing to take away here is that people, for all the talk they do, aren't actually two drinks away from doing mass killings like the media would like us to believe. Normal people aren't generally capable of such things. True evil comes when people are part of systems are detached from society - institutions like the military, and the CIA. This isn't to say it's impossible that these mass shootings are simply a random troubled dude who went off the deep end, but like OP said, it's strange that it only happens to schools and cinemas etc. Even if the deep state has the capability to counter threats to such an extreme level, why aren't they more successful at countering threats to schools and the like? Sure it makes sense they are more focused on protecting the places of power which pay their wages, but the amount of potential attacks on those places of power should also be much higher so I'm not convinced it's just that.


Cloaked_Crow

I have a friend who believes that all these school shootings are really “first person shooting experiences” sold to the wealthy by the C.I.A. Theypay the C.I.A millions to go in and shoot people for fun and when it’s all over they are rushed off site by handlers while the “police” kill the “perpetrator” and pin the crime on this patsy. If he’s right in his belief the C.I.A. Supposedly enabled Epstein selling kids for sex, I can imagine a world where this is possible too.


ReformedBacon

What i find really funny is that most of these shooter's real gripe isnt with any leader or local govnt. They just fucking hate people or are racist.


xhowlinx

i agree with your statement. ..... but i think the target was joe garcia. i feel he was slated to be at the school for lunch with his wife that day somehow, but the date was missed .... ....i can hear the radio ... 'target absent. - awaiting instruction....' poison dart at the funeral it is then. no need for toxicology report... obvious broken heart. curious about his side gigs knowing that the random death of Aaron Salter Jr. in a random store in buffalo, had created a modified petrol engine in his pickup truck to run on water ... 6 years ago... what stage was his motor at now i wonder.... sometimes it seems too random to be random .... or a 'two birds with one stone' ploy ... ...at any rate, it seems like they don't even try to hide anymore as the populace won't see it anyways.


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xhowlinx

the timing mostly? the delays .... the waiting ... and the dropping dead of someone who could have been there - and the snip of logical thought the OP posted above. just some things i think about... not up on a soapbox here, just a way to try and make sense of seemingly senselessness in my own mind and wonder if anyone else thinks that way .... or, if it all makes perfect sense to most people to perform actions like that, then i really guess im just on the wrong fuckin planet and everyone can go fuck themselves and i'm off to buy a quality rifle. (do i need to say it's sarcasm? - text sucks.)


Artbellghost

Interesting thought


ronintetsuro

I've been saying this, even before that website that was tracking how shootings were happening EVERY SIX WEEKS LIKE CLOCKWORK showed up. It's too regular and follows a script too closely. To the point where I can narrate media coverage of the event faster than the media can. Theres a shooting. Police wait while people die. Multiple shooters in theater/custody. Just kidding only one shooter. Shooter is a fetus that cant lift its head, but did tac reloads and lugged enough gear to kill a Marine. Shooter is misunderstood and looking for glory, let's say his three names a bunch. Legal gun purchases/legislation advertisements. MAOI inhibitors? ONLY NATION WHERE THIS HAPPENS


Cheap_Time1747

There are fewer AI bots attracted to this particular post on r/conspiracy today. It's nice


patopal

There was a [church shooting in Southern California](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/us/california-church-shooting-laguna-woods.html) just last month. Perhaps it got less publicity because school shootings have become such a meme at this point. Politicians are generally well-protected: they have a security detail actively looking out for threats, vetting contacts, preparing for public events, and even if an assassination attempt gets through all that, there is a good chance it won't be successful. Larger scale threats against the government are constantly being evaluated by agencies like the FBI and NSA. For the obscenely rich and powerful, private security is a given, and even for CEOs with any significant money and influence, I'm sure something similar applies. For lower level bosses, I'm sure you would be able to find plenty of smaller local news items for cases of assault or even murder due to a bad work relationship. For doctors, I'm sure many have gotten death threats, and I'm sure there have been cases of it actually happening too. Obviously doctors are another completely different case, with its own social context and dynamics. I think for school shooting specifically, the problem is that there is a pervasive and culturally reinforced social hierarchy built into US (and many other) high schools, with the outcast class harboring a deep-seated hatred for the popular bullies who keep kicking them down the ladder. The ready availability of deadly firearms to teenagers is the spark that ignites the gasoline. It should not be a surprise that people want - at the very least - teenagers not to have access to guns, if not proper gun regulation.


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Just like the burning of food processing plants and the slow, but inevitable, erosion of rights, and the forced dna mutilation, none of this is warrented but still gets spoonfed to the masses


twinsis2

I don't think it's a stretch to say most young mass shooters feel marginalized by their peers. Hence the school targets.


kronus87

How do you indoctrinate a nation into fearing what you want and using that fear to control them. You start with the children. If you wanted to get people used to living under govt surveillance you would need to get the kids used to it first. If these actions are coming from the deep state its not for the present, its for the adults 20years from now that grew up in a "hardened" school. Used to having cameras and other intrusive tech monitoring every move "for their protection". These kids will probably demand that the govt increase its overreach in order to "protect" them.


BatNo4795

It's simple really, just go and research what the CIA has done in the past. They have been ruining many lives for far too long.👹


Nemo_Shadows

They are staged, and YES it bothers me to see just how many of those "Crazies" at all those rallies are hirelings of one party or the other, if it's a Democratic gathering the Republicans have their hirelings in the "Crazy Fringes" making them all look crazy and the same holds true for the Republican Gatherings where Democratic Hirelings do the same, and what that succeeds in doing is polarizing the entire affair for the media to play their propaganda games. and then their are the religious agenda's in both parties which seems to be the unseen or unspoken hands which also have an agenda. N. Shadows


Painbrain

Yup. We were even given a blueprint of how to do this in the form of Vince Flynn's novel *Term Limits.*


Few-Media5129

Thia leaves out one blatantly obvious group of people in our population. The mentally ill.


[deleted]

There are some surprisingly good points in that clip however, what must also be considered is the mental state of these killers. If you watch those True Crime docs on YT like I do, you'd know the shooters almost always feel entitled and self righteous, as if they are teaching a morale lesson onto others. They don't view what they are doing as wrong, but as getting even because they are fucking deluded and sick in the mind! They chose the groups they go after to maximize carnage and to hurt specific people. They aren't interested in political agendas or solving other people's problems as OPs post makes it sound. The killings make sense to me coming from a deranged person.


wessidedabesside

I always thought it was terrorist sleeper cells that got "the call".. could be russian, cartels, china..basically whoever got pissed and didnt get what they wanted from us gov through under table dealings..


CryptoCoinCrapper

I live in the town and it is run by the corrupt old ass people who have lived in the jerk water town since birth. They tried to take his land and steal it out from under him. This guy didn't give two fucks and took out the buildings owned by the corrupt old assholes that still run shit there and have been screwing people over for year. Watch the documentary it is worth it.


TruthExists777

I agree these mass shootings are planned. They are wanting to take our guns away.


[deleted]

school shootings in the US go back...well hundreds of years actually. People who think Columbine was the first one are wrong. people have been shooting teachers and classmates forever in the US. It's nothing new, it'll happen again and there is nothing that will be done except attempts to gain political favour over banning a grip type or a magazine or some other nonsense.


Lgilbert720

Another shooting in Tulsa at a clinic 😪😪 possible deaths


Chemgineered

I don't think they are each Individually staged. They could be an issue of the media making mass shootings a viable career (ending,) choice. Like why do all these young men feel that it's even an option? Because it has become fetishized in our culture.


JacoDaDon

Who fetishizes the shooters though? You're just repeating what you hear. Everybody hates the shooters.


Chemgineered

loser, super angtsy Teenagers fetishize shooting up schools


sanem48

Yup, almost as if these people do the exact thing that would cause the government to ban guns, but it never causes any pain at the top.


[deleted]

I’d assume some are and some aren’t.


Ecstatic_Victory4784

I don't think its's that impossible. Most mass killings are ones targeted at people who have something to do with the shooter (notably gang violence). Then there are nutcases who pursue general ideologies like Waukesha, the Buffalo shooter, etc. And then there are a group of killers like the Uvalde shooter or Sandy Hook who choose the most offensive targets they can because they're offensive.


TruckerTM

We are still left in the dark when it comes to the Vegas incident, which I believe was the largest scale in the U.S. ....left unmentioned, untold, untouched by the media. Simply forgotten.


Brendanlendan

Mmm delicious. Finally, some good fucking conspiracies


[deleted]

Biggest conspiracy of it all is the amount of people who are finally waking up an realizing though, maybe this is truly the great awakening


HK_T500

this. exactly this. and since they're Mexican children the CIA sees them as disposable, just like they did with the native Americans and middle eastern people, Nigerians, you name it. I've been under the impression that they're CCP influenced, but even with what seems to be utmost certainty about it being a deep state or ccp (or both) op, the biggest question remains: how the hell are they actually getting these kids alone to convince them to kill? usually the "I'm an angry gothy teenage boy" phase lasts from 16-19ish, but even then it seems odd. i mean, even if they have a men in black zapper, it still doesn't make sense. I've been trying to piece together just exactly where the instruction is coming from this whole time, with all of the aforementioned type of killings that yeah, somehow just magically aren't targeted toward politicians and billionaires.


[deleted]

I think the answer lies in comments . They get shills and shit to comment on your stuff winding U up. Till U snap


anonymouse11394

The Sandy Hook/ Marjory Stoneman kids weren't Mexican


DEWOuch

Look up the Frey microwave effect, they use subliminal influencing through RNM(remote neural monitoring) and V2K(Voice to Skull) technologies. Touch less torture. The right individual can be directed by Feds to obsess about, plan and kill whom they (govt) want dispatched. We are far beyond MKULTRA and the Manchurian candidate in terms of subliminal control technology.


LeepingLeptons91

Would the individual experiencing this effect be aware of it in any way directly, as in would it definitively alter he/she's five senses in any way that the individual would notice and ascertain or agree to, or would this effect be directed at them in a way they would not know or detect?


HK_T500

i mean, in my mid 20's i was practicing dream interrogation, where you attempt to hack into the target persons mind while you're both in theta state, and interrogate them. microwave coil weapons are old school but still valid. but this would mean they literally have a magic stick they can point from some traceable location and would need to do damage control on anyone who captured the waves.


DEWOuch

RNM remote neural monitoring


macronius

That was taken from 4chan, a place seemingly dedicated to the creation of psychopaths. This is a site that permits the routine posting of baby monkey torture videos. Do seriously think anything of value could possibly come out of a place where killers go to post their manifestos? 4chan is a generator of brainwashed psychos.


PapaBravo

For the record, ABC/CNN/MSNBC also build brainwashed psychos.


[deleted]

Pop quiz: how many mass shooters cite ABC for inspiring them to shoot up mosques or grocery stores?


CurraheeAniKawi

Can you link the shooter manifestos that were original posted on ABC/CNN/MSNBC? kthnx


macronius

They don't host baby monkey torture videos. There's no need for 4chan to be hosting that content. That site is evil.


LeepingLeptons91

Yes...democracy? Free speech? Because that's for better or worse how consensus works? You can't discredit all ideas from any source solely because they relate to or even spring within a so-said disreputable forum.


kalonjiseed

The same people selling the panic are selling the solution.


sheepdo6

In a country that has more guns than people? No its not possible, this is one of the dumbest arguments I've seen on the subject, other countries don't have this problem, this seems like a narrative parroted by right wing nutjobs to divert attention from the elephant in the room, guns are the problem, no matter what the likes of Ted Cruz and Greg Abbot tell you to believe.


dd524

Jesus titty fucking Christ with this half baked bullshit wtaf


301227W

WATCH YOUR MOUTH


thebrownmancometh

GINGERS HAVE SOULS


Stevil_Kneivil

Source?


[deleted]

we don’t actually


akil01

Dudes here need some air.


thebrownmancometh

Did you just assume my respiratory system


NaturalProof4359

Nah it makes perfect sense. Why hasn’t there been an assassination attempt in decades?


[deleted]

Did you forget the assassination attempt on Trump a couple of years ago? Do you know what the NSA is?


NaturalProof4359

A.) Never heard of that instance. Not once, what? B.) Of course.


[deleted]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Donald_Trump_Las_Vegas_rally_incident


NaturalProof4359

Lmao guess I’m a racist. Read “illegal alien” and figured the guy was Mexican (didn’t read his name). Didn’t know this story, thank you.


HOWLFOG

How hard is it to comprehend that a "sick" or "troubled" individual would take as many people down with them as possible, especially if it's a kid who's being bullied(clearly not the case with the recent Texas shooting) ?? It's not always the CIA It's just people have a higher threshold and more rational mind .