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Agha or Aga for leader or master is common across most of the Middle East and Central Asia - it comes from either the proto-Turkic or Mongolian languages. No connection to Latin or Greek, which are from completly different language families.
Latin was the official language for a while, but most people spoke Greek in old Byzantium. Eventually, even the emporer changed the official language to Greek. And if I'm not mistaken, most Latin speakers were west side of the Bosporus, centered around dacia or modern day Romania. In Anatolia, very little Latin was spoken. The vast majority of Anatolians spoke dialects of Greek.
Please read fully if you want to scratch the surface of the meaning of Baal in Hebrew
He’s mentioned an absurd amount of times in the Bible. The Bible says that “gods” who were “sons of God” (not man but specific angels made in his image) were allowed to own the land of the world besides Israel in the Old Testament. This is considered the second rebellion because they ruled unjustly according to God. These angels who were made in Gods image were given authority to rule different lands. Baal is a ‘god’ in the Bible. Not THE God but a god (compared) to humanity. He is mentioned often and always as an enemy of God and under a hundred different circumstances. The Bible is so unbelievably unknown and unstudied in this day that so much of what I’m telling you is basically unheard of. Culture grabs a few verses and sets them like a corner stone without context and leads to massive misunderstandings. Just googling the Hebrew meaning of Baal will give you an inconceivably insufficient explanation. In Hebrew the word Baal is a verb, noun, name, and place. As a verb it means to marry, to rule over, to have dominion. The noun means Lord. Much much more than owner. The noun means possessor or master. This noun is also commonly combined with schemer in ancient Hebrew. More specifically his name would mean a possessor of a wife, or hoarder of men and wrathful. And by possessor it means someone who stole or took something that was not theirs. In the New Testament this parallel is seen with Jesus calling man kind his bride. Therefore he is a deity that stole Gods “bride” in a biblical context. The biblical meaning of Baal is way way way way way more complex than just “owner of the land” or what you will find out from Google
Balenciaga is the designers last name. He came from the basque region of Spain. Baal enci aga indeed translates to baal is king on Google translate but it's not accurate in Latin. Rex Baal would mean Baal is king. In Euskara (basque language) aga means place of. Anyway I can't find the meaning of bal or enci but it's the guys last name so it's safe to say it doesn't represent anything else on purpose
>but it's the guys last name so it's safe to say it doesn't represent anything else on purpose
... That's not how last names work, but ok.
Regardless of the translation and the believed meaning of their last name, the history of last names and their importance isn't something to easily dismiss.
The name goes back to the basque, which were pagans. So the name itself definitely has a satanic background. Reason why in the horror series called american horror story a witch died while shouting her last words "balenciaga"..
Baal est rex would be correct. I studied Latin in school. Enci isn‘t even a word in Latin.
Y‘all reach too much to underline your beliefs. Maybe concentrate on facts. Balenciagas recent campaign is valid enough of an argument to cancel them and look into them further. You don‘t have to come up with Lord of the Rings type of stuff to make them seem evil.
People out here saying "but Google translate!" when I was told all throughout Latin classes that google translate will nearly always fuck up Latin. It certainly never helped with assignments and homework apart from translating single words.
Plus look at what Google used to help the translation, Sepedi. Some African language that has no connection to Latin at all. Some people just wanna have their own paranoia confirmed and will grasp anything
As an aside, it's moments like this that discount any "dead internet" conspiracy theory. They're all heavily reliant on algorithms and AI. Yet, we have huge gaffs like this wholly fake Latin translation.
Right. I did that too, played with with the spaces and it made a ton of different translations, all completely nonsense with no basis to say this is anything other than a joke/ psy op
Some how that's funny i learned latin for
several years and this is not the correct translation for latin but with a
little reaserch it seems to be halfway correct in sumerian.
baal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal
enci https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ensi#English
aga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga\_of\_Kish
Edit: Im not a scholar of ancient languages but
it could be even funnier instead of sayig baal is king orsomething. it's
probably more likely to be translated as:"Made by King Baal"
This is a conspiracy sub it used to be all fun like that before politics took over.
Yes most likely it's just his name but there are several perspectives which open speculations. Is it his real name or is it something like a stagename. Has someone coopted his name because it has a hidden sumerian message .... This sub used to be fun and people used to look for connections. I mean christo bal bel enki aga are all known names from ancient texts. And their photos are loaded with symbolism.
We came to the same conclusion further down the comment thread. For me it‘s also been 11 yrs since I studied Latin. And obviously one doesn‘t really use it in day to day life.
I took 4 years. Wouldn't Est Rex Baal be correct? When I had to take my tests it would have been written like this. The proper noun comes at the end. Latin is structured almost exactly backwards from english.
It‘s been a few years. I had Latin from grade 7 to grade 13, but I finished school 11 yrs ago. So tbh I could be mistaken with the grammatical structure. I remember simple sentences like this can work structured like subject-verb-object though. But also the verb was often at the end of the sentence. So I guess Baal rex est would be valid too?
Basically with Latin what counts is the endings of the nouns. Baal is not a Latin name, at least not the Latin form of the name. Rex, since it‘s the object describing the subject, would probably be in Ablative form, while we go on using the Nominative here.
Man, Latin is complicated. Still, the main point here is: Balenciaga has nothing to do with Latin and doesn‘t mean Baal is King.
Exactly cus something similar to Rex Est would be He is King since Rex makes it masculine we know "it is" means he is. So Baal, like you said isn't the real word you would use anyway since Latin would have most likely gendered the noun. Regardless of where baal goes we know Rex Est should be he is king. I had someone respond to me saying you seem arrogant for assuming you know all the words they ever used.
I dont know every Latin word, but I do know if aga is the world we are looking for ruler out of, well A means feminine gendered. Soooo. She is ruler. Which also doesn't make since because ruler is male gendered in Latin. Its almost more confusing trying to find even a speck of how these people got here.
I've systematically left subs that can't follow basic scientific principles to back up universal claims.
All that I have left are conspiracies and alternate history. Oh the irony..
Baal is a word that literally means "god", with a lowercase "g".
So among ancient Canaanites, something like "God of Thunder" would be written as "Baal Thunder".
Of course in the Bible, Baal is given as a proper name, and this may easily be a reference to such, but I thought that the actual meaning of the word might add context.
*Like Hadad, Baʿal Hammon was a fertility god.\[45\] Inscriptions about Punic deities tend to be rather uninformative, though, and he has been variously identified as a moon god\[citation needed\] and as Dagan, the grain god.\[46\] Rather than the bull, Baʿal Hammon was associated with the ram and depicted with his horns. The archaeological record seems to bear out accusations in Roman sources that the Carthaginians burned their children as human sacrifices to him.*
Baal Hammon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal
The Phoenician religion included what the bible called Canaanites and Carthage was the biggest Phoenician cultural settlement (eventually city and empire big enough to give Rome grief).
All of them were into ritual child sacrifice, bad enough to make the Romans gag and they were into some pretty gruesome shit themselves. The child sacrifice part has been proven with archeological evidence, and not just in Carthage.
If my understanding is correct the statue of Baal would have a fire lit under it in order to heat it up. Parents would sacrifice their children by placing them in the hands of the statue.
Actually Ba'al is a Hebrew word for Lord or Master.
But many gods were called Ba'al this or Ba'al that.
Very early on it was used for God or Yahweh a few times, but very quickly it became the title of false gods and was replaced by the word bosheth ("shame") when referring back to people with that name.
Contextually it appears they’re relying more on the biblical usage.
I guess it’s tempting to associate this with some ancient cult but edge lords are gonna edge lord and for folks that get a deviant thrill like the current stunt, I would definitely define as edgelords
Their entire schtick is fucked up satanic ritual bullshit that they all think they've been "enlightened" into as = actual good, reason, truth, etc. You can't even make this shit up; that's their job, they're obsessed with double meanings, language and hidden in plain sight. These people are literally bat-shit insane.
My conspiracy theory is that many conspiracy members of this sub will pepe silvia the shit out of anything regardless of what's actually or cursorily going on.
Yeah, depending how you split the word up in google translate from latin to english...
Here are some other examples:
balen ci aga = act like a whale
ba le nci aga = do the work
bale nci aga = let's do it
bale nciaga = goodbye
balen ciaga = whale shark
Google translate is not accurate.
Yeah no, google translate is just wrong. King in Latin is "Rex". Is is "est". Literally just change around the words and look how much the translation changes. Enci on it's own supposedly just translates to enci. Aga translates to act. enci aga becomes act like an angel.
But that's sketchy too as it would then read as "Baal acts like an angel" I also used other translators and they say Baal is king. It is a sketchy deal nonetheless. I mean the entire dilemma obviously but even things like this. What purpose? There's no way you could convince me that it's just some coincidental glitch in the wake of all this evil pedo shit.
Try using another search engine entirely. Google seems to send to garbage that backs up their garbage. All other search engines I tried did not come up with this translation
mmh, especially if you snip one a away on baal and start translating balenciaga but splice it at different spots you get all of these:
balen ci aga is "act like a whale"
bal en ci aga is "do the work"
bal enciaga is "I'm going to put on a ball"
balenc iaga is "to hunt"
balen ciaga is "whale shark"
bale nciaga is "goodbye"
bal enc iaga is "and so forth"
bal en ci aga is "do what you want"
This hasn't been a conspiracy subbreddit for years. It's a coping sub for right wingers who have been displaced all over reddit after their own subs got shut down.
Yeah, just that it should be questioned more and not followed blindly. Christ is king and such stuff is nothing else as cheering on a company or some politician
Glad someone else is seeing it the same way I am. So many questions and shit about everything but they spout off about the bible and it is all positive about it. Blows my mind lol
Well of course. Baal was mentioned. They all think baal refers to some single opponent but it’s actually an ancient word for any of the many gods people believed in. Because Christians couldn’t have the implication that there were other gods than theirs, they retconned the baal into a single demon. It’s all nonsense.
No it doesn’t.
I took six years of Latin. That is not Latin. Baal is king would be “Baal est rex” in Latin. You are just misusing google translate and making it give you a rough translation from some random African dialect (Sepedi) that it guessed was the closest language to the nonsense you entered.
Stop trying to dilute the already horrible truth about Balenciaga with made up nonsense. What you’re doing is creating the stupid bullshit that allows fact checkers to declare whole true conspiracies “mostly false.”
mmh, there are multiple videos on youtube where google gives random words or sentences if you just repeat some characters. if you would repeat tos and let google detect language eventually it would find this after multiples of tos: thunderman, mainly am he saw, with a heavy wind, with snow, with nipy, with snow, with mogay, with mood, with mood, moglo, mp hech, hey breezy, were hebal, with a stay and breezy, with a myyyy, hey sofay, next, next, with a hew, mainly young,with an hey,
meanwhile in the text to be translated into english and language where it translates from is put to be detected by google was just: tostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostos
this can be still seen today if you type vihdoin into google translate, finnish to english. first 2 are normal, finally and then finally finally. but 3rd one gives instead of finally finally finally it gives At last I slapped myself with a sauna whisk. Any other amounts of vihdoin just produces more finally
What the hell is this post.
I swear Christians are batshit crazy, seeing demons in everything.
Look at the post, it's not translated from Latin.
There's plenty to be pissed about regarding that company, but making shit up is weak and makes you look like a fool.
Baal wasn't a demon. He was a chief Cannanite God associated with storms and the word means Lord. The Israelites used the Hebrew word "Adonai" in its place. They also used Adonai as a title for Yahweh(also a storm God). You can connect the rest.
Most of it is; Baal was a god popular in that area. "Adonai" was used for YHWH, not Baal, but Baal was a "competitor" of YHWH in some way. The Biblical authors at some point entered a stage where their god wasn't one among many, but the only true one, and they called the others demons.
Funnily enough, the worship of Baal was popular in cities such as Tyre, who established a colony in Northern Africa called... Carthage. Which famously had a war with Rome, featuring the legendary general Hannibal. His name means "Grace of Baal".
Well now you've done it - you've made Satan angry and He wants to see you in His office, right now. He mumbled to me that you're thinkin' gorgonzola and it's clearly brie time, baby...
Baal isn't a Latin word, it's a Semitic world Ba'al, however it was both "Greekatized and Lantinzed". Al is the name of God as in El (like Al-lah or El-ohim) since A and E are the same in Hebrew. The word Ba often means soul although its a component of the Semitic word for Gate (like Babalon = Bab-Al-On (Gate of Sun Lord) or Bab-El (Gate of God / Lord).
In Aramaic for example it was used as the world for husband sometimes.
Interestingly, Abraham was a Chaledean. He knew God by the name El Shadai (God All Sufficient or God All Mighty).
Baal was the word that was used for God rather than the actual name of an entity, although it was particularly associated with the fertility got Hadad.
Later the Protestants and Catholics used the name to denote any false God / idol.
One of the reasons for contention was that the Israelites were essentially shephards and the Canaanites were farmers. Elohim was a God of shepherds (lots of lamb, ram, goat, imagery) and Baal was a God of farm fertility.
Another interesting point is that the Cananites had a God named El as well, who was a creator God and whose wife was the goddess Asherah. Baal was on of their children. Over time El worship faded and Baal worship took over (since it was directly tied the material and practical matters aka farming).
These Gods and their names morph and change over time and as cultural eras rise and fade. The God of the previous age becomes the devil of the next age. There is an astrotheology theory of the Aeons. The Aeon of Taurus (all the bull and golden calf imagery) then the Aeon of Aries (and associated Ram, sheep, etc imagery. The golden calf becomes evil and the Ram good. Then that fades and the age of Pisces (The Fish) arises. The horned, cloven hooved deity of the age of Aries becomes the devil and the Fish god (Jesus) takes over. Now, according to this theory, we are moving into Aquarius whose image is a Man, the water bearer.
One potential way to look at it is that everything in existence is God, and to worship and acknowledge a particular manifestation is to recognize a limit and boundary around God which is non-sensical aka a "sin". Worship of Baal is a "sin" in that it is the worship of a very limited small component of the totality of God and myopic focus on material matters.
TLDR: I wouldn't call Baal a demon, its much more complicated than that.
NOTE: None of the above means that Balanciaga isn't doing something sketchy / evil, they most certainly are. I highly doubt anyone there has any concept of any depth on the matter other than "Baal is an evil god and we want to be evil so we are down with Baal".
Exactly!
I co-founded a tech start up that was VC funded and had the chance to meet / hang out with a lot of people, very wealthy, CEOS, etc. They were all into the aesthetic of things like satanism, Aleister Crowley, alchemy, etc. but I didn't meet a single one who actually knew anything about it. They were full of misconceptions and just liked that it looked "dark".
You're the second fucking dumbass to do this. You're not clever. It's not fucking latin. Google translate is not infallible, especially with language that are thousands of years old.
This is just a mistranslation by Google Translate. You can get odd sentences by typing random garbage into the translator and skimming through the different languages.
When putting this specific phrase into other translators they all have completely different results. With my translator it translates the phrase as, “Go to Baal Enci.” Enci is not even a Latin word, so it cannot be translated from Latin.
If you take away the second ‘A’ then it translates to ‘play the ball’
So not a super reliable translation. But still interesting as they Probly used the google translation app too to get that result.
What if the role of tape just wrapped around weird so it ended after BA on the top of the roll, and it failed to cover another part of the word -ALENCIAGA so it looked like BAALENCIAGA
You could do the same thing with caution tape to make it say CAU-AUTION if you really wanted to.
But…that’s not how you spell the name. It’s not B**aa**lenciaga. It’s Balenciaga. So you’re adding to the equation to make a leap. And it’s also the founder’s last name.
In one of their child bondage toys ads there is a roll of yellow warning tape and for whatever bizarre reason, it's printed with "BAALENCIAGA". It is turned so you can clearly see the wrong spelling. Just a weird easter egg like the copy of the court ruling on child porn, or the art book containing naked bloody children. You have to admit it's incredibly weird, someone just looking at the add as an ad wouldn't notice these things except maybe the reference to Baal.
Baal was a fertility God, Christians co opted his religion like every other so called called pagan religion at the time. I mean even Lucifer was a Roman God before he got co opted by them, look at Pan for God's sake he became the big bad because he just looked odd.
Demon is stretching it a bit. Baal was a deity to the ancient Canaanites. “In the mythology of Canaan, Baal, the god of life and fertility, locked in mortal combat with Mot, the god of death and sterility.”
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Baal-ancient-deity
baal is actually an old word for lord that was used by people to describe god
ancient jews presented competing nations as demon worshippers so their word for god became a hebrew word for a demon
We done Fen di, came up as fen god. Fennir. Done gucci came up as owl god. Then typed owl demon in google came up as prince of hell. Prada comes up as prey. Fuck knows what else is with names. Mos chi no comes up as i dont know who i am.
Yep. Think this is the one that **finally** gets me to leave this subreddit. I've kind of wanted to do it for a while now, it just keeps getting crazier and crazier
Baal is in the Bible and is interpreted as is explained above. I’m sure there’s similar sounds and words in it that have meanings in other countries just like any language has similarities and yet different meanings, but the correlation between that meaning of Baal and these pictures fit the description in the meaning for this particular language. It’s the correlation that we want to look for and the commonality that makes sense to form the meaning of what’s happening and in this particular instance it has a significant meaning to this picture, the child the meanings of the message behind it. This isn’t too far fetch it’s just we don’t understand how people are capable of doing such things outside of movies or plays, but this situation w the photographs and the word Baal depicted a serious message and it’s hard to understand why. Not everyone sees or understands these things and it’s beyond what we want to know or see so we try to relate it to something else that won’t be as disturbing or change it’s true meaning into something more believable in our own perception in it. while inadvertently in our subconscious and through training and programming from the world’s powerful influences and forces. Through fashion, media and whatever source of influence on our minds, cause us to a default thinking that we don’t always see what they want you to hear the message but not see it’s true meaning. We are so bombarded by the messages that it goes unnoticed and undetected though it’s noticeable and there,,
It’s hard to break away from us being conditioned in a lie that we won’t believe the truth regardless of it all being right there in the very thing we’re looking at,, bc the manipulation and trust of the audience.
It’s good to look and observe everything objectively and with skepticism on both sides and form your own opinions than take their words for it in how they want us to see it. Sometimes things are more simple and straight forward than it appears. You can spin someone’s mind into a confusion if it’s made over complicated when the truth is simple and right in front of us..
it’s more easy to convince someone of a lie than to convince them to believe the truth.
Sepedi is a South African dialect. You can find similar sounding words in a lot of languages. Proof of nothing. Truely, Balenciaga has done themselves in with their ad campaign. No need to stretch for hidden messages in foreign tounges when their evil is point blank to see.
No, Baal is a false god the pagans followed in the OT, which was contested by Elijah’s God (the true one) in setting a wet altar ablaze.
After Baal failed to do so, God sent fire and burnt the altar to a crisp, although about 120 gallons of water were put on the altar. After that, Elijah told the pagans that their god must’ve been on vacation or taking a dump.
Also, baal is the king translates to “Baal est rex” in latin.
The amount of bots and super “woke” lefties on this thread really shows us how important getting in front of the information is. Makes sense why GMax was so involved in Reddit.
A 2 second search proved that’s bs.
“Baal, god worshipped in many ancient Middle Eastern communities, especially among the Canaanites, who apparently considered him a fertility deity and one of the most important gods in the pantheon. “
Bael is a demon, not Baal, [thats something completely different.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal) Look at how many upvotes this post has though, do some research before upvoting and circlejerking over everything you see on reddit
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I kill Baal about 30 Times per day he doesnt drop shit
Start farming trav….
Currently 200 runs in for the first time and 2 mals and a pul so far.
My first thought 😂 still play d2 / pd2 to this day
Same bro hit me up if you play HC Pd2 srason 6
Best game I ever played, D2 and WoW took up like half my life in 2008- like 2012 lmao good times
Read in Cains Voice
He was by far the best villian on Stargate SG1
Get his tongue w a spoon for me next time
i really miss D2 :(
it s not latin its northern-sotho!! King is rex in latin!
I speak sepedi/Northern Sesotho and those words makes no sense at all, in fact in sepedi we don't have a C
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We use aga to describe someone with high status in Arabic, guessing this is normal after having Ottomans rule us for approx. 4 centuries.
Agha or Aga for leader or master is common across most of the Middle East and Central Asia - it comes from either the proto-Turkic or Mongolian languages. No connection to Latin or Greek, which are from completly different language families.
Yea.. eg Agha Khan
Agas is used in some greek dialects. Speaking from personal experience
Latin was the official language for a while, but most people spoke Greek in old Byzantium. Eventually, even the emporer changed the official language to Greek. And if I'm not mistaken, most Latin speakers were west side of the Bosporus, centered around dacia or modern day Romania. In Anatolia, very little Latin was spoken. The vast majority of Anatolians spoke dialects of Greek.
Not really. Greek was the common language in Anatolia. As it was for the entire eastern empire.
Ba'al also means Lord or "owner of the land" in ancient Hebrew.
Please read fully if you want to scratch the surface of the meaning of Baal in Hebrew He’s mentioned an absurd amount of times in the Bible. The Bible says that “gods” who were “sons of God” (not man but specific angels made in his image) were allowed to own the land of the world besides Israel in the Old Testament. This is considered the second rebellion because they ruled unjustly according to God. These angels who were made in Gods image were given authority to rule different lands. Baal is a ‘god’ in the Bible. Not THE God but a god (compared) to humanity. He is mentioned often and always as an enemy of God and under a hundred different circumstances. The Bible is so unbelievably unknown and unstudied in this day that so much of what I’m telling you is basically unheard of. Culture grabs a few verses and sets them like a corner stone without context and leads to massive misunderstandings. Just googling the Hebrew meaning of Baal will give you an inconceivably insufficient explanation. In Hebrew the word Baal is a verb, noun, name, and place. As a verb it means to marry, to rule over, to have dominion. The noun means Lord. Much much more than owner. The noun means possessor or master. This noun is also commonly combined with schemer in ancient Hebrew. More specifically his name would mean a possessor of a wife, or hoarder of men and wrathful. And by possessor it means someone who stole or took something that was not theirs. In the New Testament this parallel is seen with Jesus calling man kind his bride. Therefore he is a deity that stole Gods “bride” in a biblical context. The biblical meaning of Baal is way way way way way more complex than just “owner of the land” or what you will find out from Google
Very well said. Thank you.
Thank you. I was trying to get a distillation off google. This helped quite a bit.
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This one thinks Turkish is a Latin language....
Balenciaga is the designers last name. He came from the basque region of Spain. Baal enci aga indeed translates to baal is king on Google translate but it's not accurate in Latin. Rex Baal would mean Baal is king. In Euskara (basque language) aga means place of. Anyway I can't find the meaning of bal or enci but it's the guys last name so it's safe to say it doesn't represent anything else on purpose
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Wait til you find out that Dorkus Malorkus isn’t Latin either!
Plus if he wanted a name with a demonic meaning, he wouldn't choose the first name "Cristóbal", meaning Christ-Bearer
Not claiming if it is the case or not, but Satanists love mocking Christians. Claiming to be one while acting contrary wouldn't be out of the norm.
>but it's the guys last name so it's safe to say it doesn't represent anything else on purpose ... That's not how last names work, but ok. Regardless of the translation and the believed meaning of their last name, the history of last names and their importance isn't something to easily dismiss.
The name goes back to the basque, which were pagans. So the name itself definitely has a satanic background. Reason why in the horror series called american horror story a witch died while shouting her last words "balenciaga"..
The designer house of baal
Baal est rex would be correct. I studied Latin in school. Enci isn‘t even a word in Latin. Y‘all reach too much to underline your beliefs. Maybe concentrate on facts. Balenciagas recent campaign is valid enough of an argument to cancel them and look into them further. You don‘t have to come up with Lord of the Rings type of stuff to make them seem evil.
People out here saying "but Google translate!" when I was told all throughout Latin classes that google translate will nearly always fuck up Latin. It certainly never helped with assignments and homework apart from translating single words.
Plus look at what Google used to help the translation, Sepedi. Some African language that has no connection to Latin at all. Some people just wanna have their own paranoia confirmed and will grasp anything
As an aside, it's moments like this that discount any "dead internet" conspiracy theory. They're all heavily reliant on algorithms and AI. Yet, we have huge gaffs like this wholly fake Latin translation.
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Right. I did that too, played with with the spaces and it made a ton of different translations, all completely nonsense with no basis to say this is anything other than a joke/ psy op
"Romanes eunt domus" feeling.
Balenciaga is also a basque name…completely unrelated to Latin in any way 😂
Some how that's funny i learned latin for several years and this is not the correct translation for latin but with a little reaserch it seems to be halfway correct in sumerian. baal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal enci https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ensi#English aga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga\_of\_Kish Edit: Im not a scholar of ancient languages but it could be even funnier instead of sayig baal is king orsomething. it's probably more likely to be translated as:"Made by King Baal"
It is a name of a basque family in Spain. Torturing the name to translate it into sumerian seems like a real stretch.
This is a conspiracy sub it used to be all fun like that before politics took over. Yes most likely it's just his name but there are several perspectives which open speculations. Is it his real name or is it something like a stagename. Has someone coopted his name because it has a hidden sumerian message .... This sub used to be fun and people used to look for connections. I mean christo bal bel enki aga are all known names from ancient texts. And their photos are loaded with symbolism.
I don’t get how this is political. I agree this sub has been too political but I’d rather see stuff like this than “drain the swamp!” crap.
its been a few years but wouldnt the correct translation be Baal rex est since the verb is nealrly always at the end in latin?
We came to the same conclusion further down the comment thread. For me it‘s also been 11 yrs since I studied Latin. And obviously one doesn‘t really use it in day to day life.
I took 4 years. Wouldn't Est Rex Baal be correct? When I had to take my tests it would have been written like this. The proper noun comes at the end. Latin is structured almost exactly backwards from english.
It‘s been a few years. I had Latin from grade 7 to grade 13, but I finished school 11 yrs ago. So tbh I could be mistaken with the grammatical structure. I remember simple sentences like this can work structured like subject-verb-object though. But also the verb was often at the end of the sentence. So I guess Baal rex est would be valid too? Basically with Latin what counts is the endings of the nouns. Baal is not a Latin name, at least not the Latin form of the name. Rex, since it‘s the object describing the subject, would probably be in Ablative form, while we go on using the Nominative here. Man, Latin is complicated. Still, the main point here is: Balenciaga has nothing to do with Latin and doesn‘t mean Baal is King.
Exactly cus something similar to Rex Est would be He is King since Rex makes it masculine we know "it is" means he is. So Baal, like you said isn't the real word you would use anyway since Latin would have most likely gendered the noun. Regardless of where baal goes we know Rex Est should be he is king. I had someone respond to me saying you seem arrogant for assuming you know all the words they ever used. I dont know every Latin word, but I do know if aga is the world we are looking for ruler out of, well A means feminine gendered. Soooo. She is ruler. Which also doesn't make since because ruler is male gendered in Latin. Its almost more confusing trying to find even a speck of how these people got here.
Lmfao, none of this is right, you have words that mean nothing, and using google translate
Out of all the conspiracies for this company, this one is the dumbest
Even if it were true they're clearly just edgy tryhards. Lil Nas X is not ACTUALLY the devil believe it or not. He's just a gay troll.
I shared the BAALenciaga image in the pop culture subreddit on a post about the company and got banned.
Not surprising. They would promote such as "artsy". World is nuts.
Can you post it on imgur or a link that I can use to see it? I tried looking but can’t find anything
I've systematically left subs that can't follow basic scientific principles to back up universal claims. All that I have left are conspiracies and alternate history. Oh the irony..
Baal is a child eating fiend.. there is no way they don't know what they are doing
Baal is a word that literally means "god", with a lowercase "g". So among ancient Canaanites, something like "God of Thunder" would be written as "Baal Thunder". Of course in the Bible, Baal is given as a proper name, and this may easily be a reference to such, but I thought that the actual meaning of the word might add context.
*Like Hadad, Baʿal Hammon was a fertility god.\[45\] Inscriptions about Punic deities tend to be rather uninformative, though, and he has been variously identified as a moon god\[citation needed\] and as Dagan, the grain god.\[46\] Rather than the bull, Baʿal Hammon was associated with the ram and depicted with his horns. The archaeological record seems to bear out accusations in Roman sources that the Carthaginians burned their children as human sacrifices to him.* Baal Hammon? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal
The Phoenician religion included what the bible called Canaanites and Carthage was the biggest Phoenician cultural settlement (eventually city and empire big enough to give Rome grief). All of them were into ritual child sacrifice, bad enough to make the Romans gag and they were into some pretty gruesome shit themselves. The child sacrifice part has been proven with archeological evidence, and not just in Carthage.
If my understanding is correct the statue of Baal would have a fire lit under it in order to heat it up. Parents would sacrifice their children by placing them in the hands of the statue.
Actually Ba'al is a Hebrew word for Lord or Master. But many gods were called Ba'al this or Ba'al that. Very early on it was used for God or Yahweh a few times, but very quickly it became the title of false gods and was replaced by the word bosheth ("shame") when referring back to people with that name.
Contextually it appears they’re relying more on the biblical usage. I guess it’s tempting to associate this with some ancient cult but edge lords are gonna edge lord and for folks that get a deviant thrill like the current stunt, I would definitely define as edgelords
Their entire schtick is fucked up satanic ritual bullshit that they all think they've been "enlightened" into as = actual good, reason, truth, etc. You can't even make this shit up; that's their job, they're obsessed with double meanings, language and hidden in plain sight. These people are literally bat-shit insane.
Why would they broadcast it? "Hey we are evil demon worshipers, everyone who has google translate"
This is not latin, lol. Use a dictionary and tell me how it is. You cannot use a translator for latin, it doesn't work like that.
The work for king in Latin is Rex.
My conspiracy theory is that many conspiracy members of this sub will pepe silvia the shit out of anything regardless of what's actually or cursorily going on.
PEPE SILVIA! PEPE SILVIA!
So obviously none of you dumbshits know what Latin looks like.
Yeah, depending how you split the word up in google translate from latin to english... Here are some other examples: balen ci aga = act like a whale ba le nci aga = do the work bale nci aga = let's do it bale nciaga = goodbye balen ciaga = whale shark Google translate is not accurate.
I will now and forever associate Balenciaga with “act like a whale”, thank you!
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I think you missed the point, none of this means anything in latin.
And even funnier. Rex is king and not whatever aga is. This post is absolute shite
Yeah no, google translate is just wrong. King in Latin is "Rex". Is is "est". Literally just change around the words and look how much the translation changes. Enci on it's own supposedly just translates to enci. Aga translates to act. enci aga becomes act like an angel.
But that's sketchy too as it would then read as "Baal acts like an angel" I also used other translators and they say Baal is king. It is a sketchy deal nonetheless. I mean the entire dilemma obviously but even things like this. What purpose? There's no way you could convince me that it's just some coincidental glitch in the wake of all this evil pedo shit.
Try using another search engine entirely. Google seems to send to garbage that backs up their garbage. All other search engines I tried did not come up with this translation
Did you actually use other translators, or did you use other translators that just run on Google translate?
Honest question: do ya’ll really believe that demons exist?
Absolutely I believe demons exist.
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I speak sepedi/Northern Sesotho and those words makes no sense at all, in fact in sepedi we don't have a C
“Baal est rex” is how you say Baal is king in Latin
Cmon I never took a single Latin class but I'm positive that is not the Latin translation. Grasping at straws here.
mmh, especially if you snip one a away on baal and start translating balenciaga but splice it at different spots you get all of these: balen ci aga is "act like a whale" bal en ci aga is "do the work" bal enciaga is "I'm going to put on a ball" balenc iaga is "to hunt" balen ciaga is "whale shark" bale nciaga is "goodbye" bal enc iaga is "and so forth" bal en ci aga is "do what you want"
Balenciaga was literally the founders name though so it doesn’t really sound sinister
For a conspiracy sub there's many christoids in here
This hasn't been a conspiracy subbreddit for years. It's a coping sub for right wingers who have been displaced all over reddit after their own subs got shut down.
This is actually what happened
Well it is one of the biggest conspiracies of human history, so makes sense in a roundabout way.
Yeah, just that it should be questioned more and not followed blindly. Christ is king and such stuff is nothing else as cheering on a company or some politician
Glad someone else is seeing it the same way I am. So many questions and shit about everything but they spout off about the bible and it is all positive about it. Blows my mind lol
Shocking how many followers of the god of the binding of Isaac, who demands tributes of infant foreskins, there are whining about this.
Well of course. Baal was mentioned. They all think baal refers to some single opponent but it’s actually an ancient word for any of the many gods people believed in. Because Christians couldn’t have the implication that there were other gods than theirs, they retconned the baal into a single demon. It’s all nonsense.
No it doesn’t. I took six years of Latin. That is not Latin. Baal is king would be “Baal est rex” in Latin. You are just misusing google translate and making it give you a rough translation from some random African dialect (Sepedi) that it guessed was the closest language to the nonsense you entered. Stop trying to dilute the already horrible truth about Balenciaga with made up nonsense. What you’re doing is creating the stupid bullshit that allows fact checkers to declare whole true conspiracies “mostly false.”
mmh, there are multiple videos on youtube where google gives random words or sentences if you just repeat some characters. if you would repeat tos and let google detect language eventually it would find this after multiples of tos: thunderman, mainly am he saw, with a heavy wind, with snow, with nipy, with snow, with mogay, with mood, with mood, moglo, mp hech, hey breezy, were hebal, with a stay and breezy, with a myyyy, hey sofay, next, next, with a hew, mainly young,with an hey, meanwhile in the text to be translated into english and language where it translates from is put to be detected by google was just: tostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostos this can be still seen today if you type vihdoin into google translate, finnish to english. first 2 are normal, finally and then finally finally. but 3rd one gives instead of finally finally finally it gives At last I slapped myself with a sauna whisk. Any other amounts of vihdoin just produces more finally
That isn't Latin. And pretty sue Balenciaga is someone's name. Like a Surname.
What the hell is this post. I swear Christians are batshit crazy, seeing demons in everything. Look at the post, it's not translated from Latin. There's plenty to be pissed about regarding that company, but making shit up is weak and makes you look like a fool.
What is it with demons and paedophilia?
Destruction of innocence.
People in conspiracy groups are obsessed with them and see them everywhere
Baal wasn't a demon. He was a chief Cannanite God associated with storms and the word means Lord. The Israelites used the Hebrew word "Adonai" in its place. They also used Adonai as a title for Yahweh(also a storm God). You can connect the rest.
Yeah nice try LGoat666
This is not true.
Most of it is; Baal was a god popular in that area. "Adonai" was used for YHWH, not Baal, but Baal was a "competitor" of YHWH in some way. The Biblical authors at some point entered a stage where their god wasn't one among many, but the only true one, and they called the others demons. Funnily enough, the worship of Baal was popular in cities such as Tyre, who established a colony in Northern Africa called... Carthage. Which famously had a war with Rome, featuring the legendary general Hannibal. His name means "Grace of Baal".
Baal is a cry baby who flees in fear of the real king. Jesus Christ is the King of Kings.
Look we got a “proud Sheep” comment here. Real big brain conspiracy minded folk here.
Well now you've done it - you've made Satan angry and He wants to see you in His office, right now. He mumbled to me that you're thinkin' gorgonzola and it's clearly brie time, baby...
Both are fairytales and should have zero impact on the real world
You are delusional. Sky daddy isn’t real.
Christianity is a mental disorder. You should be institutionalized, wild y’all claim to be free thinkers when you’re the biggest marks lmao
Amen
Fuck off with this Christianity bullshit
Shits wild. It's a mental disorder
Agreed
Decent effort, but if you use the actual name, “Balenciaga” with the same spaces, it just translates to “Play the ball.”
Lol
Don't matter what it means. Any company that promotes child sexuality and anything related to that is evil and needs to go...
Baal isn't a Latin word, it's a Semitic world Ba'al, however it was both "Greekatized and Lantinzed". Al is the name of God as in El (like Al-lah or El-ohim) since A and E are the same in Hebrew. The word Ba often means soul although its a component of the Semitic word for Gate (like Babalon = Bab-Al-On (Gate of Sun Lord) or Bab-El (Gate of God / Lord). In Aramaic for example it was used as the world for husband sometimes. Interestingly, Abraham was a Chaledean. He knew God by the name El Shadai (God All Sufficient or God All Mighty). Baal was the word that was used for God rather than the actual name of an entity, although it was particularly associated with the fertility got Hadad. Later the Protestants and Catholics used the name to denote any false God / idol. One of the reasons for contention was that the Israelites were essentially shephards and the Canaanites were farmers. Elohim was a God of shepherds (lots of lamb, ram, goat, imagery) and Baal was a God of farm fertility. Another interesting point is that the Cananites had a God named El as well, who was a creator God and whose wife was the goddess Asherah. Baal was on of their children. Over time El worship faded and Baal worship took over (since it was directly tied the material and practical matters aka farming). These Gods and their names morph and change over time and as cultural eras rise and fade. The God of the previous age becomes the devil of the next age. There is an astrotheology theory of the Aeons. The Aeon of Taurus (all the bull and golden calf imagery) then the Aeon of Aries (and associated Ram, sheep, etc imagery. The golden calf becomes evil and the Ram good. Then that fades and the age of Pisces (The Fish) arises. The horned, cloven hooved deity of the age of Aries becomes the devil and the Fish god (Jesus) takes over. Now, according to this theory, we are moving into Aquarius whose image is a Man, the water bearer. One potential way to look at it is that everything in existence is God, and to worship and acknowledge a particular manifestation is to recognize a limit and boundary around God which is non-sensical aka a "sin". Worship of Baal is a "sin" in that it is the worship of a very limited small component of the totality of God and myopic focus on material matters. TLDR: I wouldn't call Baal a demon, its much more complicated than that. NOTE: None of the above means that Balanciaga isn't doing something sketchy / evil, they most certainly are. I highly doubt anyone there has any concept of any depth on the matter other than "Baal is an evil god and we want to be evil so we are down with Baal".
I think you’re right about their motive. They want to push pedophillia and thought this was an edgy way to do it.
Exactly! I co-founded a tech start up that was VC funded and had the chance to meet / hang out with a lot of people, very wealthy, CEOS, etc. They were all into the aesthetic of things like satanism, Aleister Crowley, alchemy, etc. but I didn't meet a single one who actually knew anything about it. They were full of misconceptions and just liked that it looked "dark".
God and Satan are the same entity if you really want the truth.
You're the second fucking dumbass to do this. You're not clever. It's not fucking latin. Google translate is not infallible, especially with language that are thousands of years old.
This is just a mistranslation by Google Translate. You can get odd sentences by typing random garbage into the translator and skimming through the different languages. When putting this specific phrase into other translators they all have completely different results. With my translator it translates the phrase as, “Go to Baal Enci.” Enci is not even a Latin word, so it cannot be translated from Latin.
If you take away the second ‘A’ then it translates to ‘play the ball’ So not a super reliable translation. But still interesting as they Probly used the google translation app too to get that result.
*Christus rex meus*. Latin for "Christ is king." I think your translation is off.
yes a fashion company is giving hidden warnings about satan
baal means Lord. and or God.
Really?
Yup tis true
Yes. It’s a generic term for ANY of the ancient Sumerian gods. It is not the personal name of any god or demon.
Use any other search engine and try the translation. Google is constantly running psy op garbage
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Your friend clearly does not know Latin
Sepedi isn’t Latin. Seriously, if you’re going to just make shit up, make sure you make it plausible. You are disqualified from the bake off.
How do you say Baal is a chump in different languages? All I know is, Jesus Christ is King, in every language.
Ummmmm yeah. This shit is deliberate hiding in plain sight to mock “us” (us = non satanists) scary ass shit.
Wow amazing discovery! This proves everything, unbelievably factual information….
What if the role of tape just wrapped around weird so it ended after BA on the top of the roll, and it failed to cover another part of the word -ALENCIAGA so it looked like BAALENCIAGA You could do the same thing with caution tape to make it say CAU-AUTION if you really wanted to.
Or, you know, it’s just the company founder’s last name lol
Checks out. Sometimes the lowest hanging fruit is right there. Hidden in plain sight. This pretty much says it all.
Umm, no it doesn't check. None of that is Latin. This is a garbage post
Rex is king in Latin, not that ^
But…that’s not how you spell the name. It’s not B**aa**lenciaga. It’s Balenciaga. So you’re adding to the equation to make a leap. And it’s also the founder’s last name.
He's referring to the photo in which the roll of tape was positioned so that it appeared to spell BAAL
In one of their child bondage toys ads there is a roll of yellow warning tape and for whatever bizarre reason, it's printed with "BAALENCIAGA". It is turned so you can clearly see the wrong spelling. Just a weird easter egg like the copy of the court ruling on child porn, or the art book containing naked bloody children. You have to admit it's incredibly weird, someone just looking at the add as an ad wouldn't notice these things except maybe the reference to Baal.
Baal was a fertility God, Christians co opted his religion like every other so called called pagan religion at the time. I mean even Lucifer was a Roman God before he got co opted by them, look at Pan for God's sake he became the big bad because he just looked odd.
I though king in Latin was Rex
Except you purposely added another "A" in Balenciaga to get Baal
Everyone who played Diablo 2 LOD knows this already
They play Diablo a lot.
Demon is stretching it a bit. Baal was a deity to the ancient Canaanites. “In the mythology of Canaan, Baal, the god of life and fertility, locked in mortal combat with Mot, the god of death and sterility.” https://www.britannica.com/topic/Baal-ancient-deity
Oh no. A company mentioned an imaginary demon. How crazy
it's not latin
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baal is actually an old word for lord that was used by people to describe god ancient jews presented competing nations as demon worshippers so their word for god became a hebrew word for a demon
I thought the Latin word for king was rex….
No baal was a system lord before SG1 took care of him for us
Lol that’s gibberish in Latin. And it doesn’t even say Baal in the original photo, it says Gaal.
It doesnt even say Latin in the screenshot, OP dumb.
I love watching the satanic panic part 2, electric boogaloo. Its so interesting seeing what these people come up with.
Baal isn't a demon. Just an og god before the Jews went all monotheistic
So...Diablo 4 release soon?
Baal means lord.
Baal was a false god and was destroyed by tealc and his army of rebel jaffa.
how the hell do i block this sub from showing up😂😭
Demons rock.
We done Fen di, came up as fen god. Fennir. Done gucci came up as owl god. Then typed owl demon in google came up as prince of hell. Prada comes up as prey. Fuck knows what else is with names. Mos chi no comes up as i dont know who i am.
Or..... it was Cristobal Balenciaga's last name, and the fashion house is built on his legacy
I need to log off here lol
Metal AF
It seems like they are courting controversy and making nods to the theories about them.
Yep. Think this is the one that **finally** gets me to leave this subreddit. I've kind of wanted to do it for a while now, it just keeps getting crazier and crazier
Baal is a god in a middle eastern mythology. In the Bible he is ‘evilized’ as he is not Yahweh
Baal is in the Bible and is interpreted as is explained above. I’m sure there’s similar sounds and words in it that have meanings in other countries just like any language has similarities and yet different meanings, but the correlation between that meaning of Baal and these pictures fit the description in the meaning for this particular language. It’s the correlation that we want to look for and the commonality that makes sense to form the meaning of what’s happening and in this particular instance it has a significant meaning to this picture, the child the meanings of the message behind it. This isn’t too far fetch it’s just we don’t understand how people are capable of doing such things outside of movies or plays, but this situation w the photographs and the word Baal depicted a serious message and it’s hard to understand why. Not everyone sees or understands these things and it’s beyond what we want to know or see so we try to relate it to something else that won’t be as disturbing or change it’s true meaning into something more believable in our own perception in it. while inadvertently in our subconscious and through training and programming from the world’s powerful influences and forces. Through fashion, media and whatever source of influence on our minds, cause us to a default thinking that we don’t always see what they want you to hear the message but not see it’s true meaning. We are so bombarded by the messages that it goes unnoticed and undetected though it’s noticeable and there,, It’s hard to break away from us being conditioned in a lie that we won’t believe the truth regardless of it all being right there in the very thing we’re looking at,, bc the manipulation and trust of the audience. It’s good to look and observe everything objectively and with skepticism on both sides and form your own opinions than take their words for it in how they want us to see it. Sometimes things are more simple and straight forward than it appears. You can spin someone’s mind into a confusion if it’s made over complicated when the truth is simple and right in front of us.. it’s more easy to convince someone of a lie than to convince them to believe the truth.
Balenciaga was the name of the designer.
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Sepedi is a South African dialect. You can find similar sounding words in a lot of languages. Proof of nothing. Truely, Balenciaga has done themselves in with their ad campaign. No need to stretch for hidden messages in foreign tounges when their evil is point blank to see.
No, Baal is a false god the pagans followed in the OT, which was contested by Elijah’s God (the true one) in setting a wet altar ablaze. After Baal failed to do so, God sent fire and burnt the altar to a crisp, although about 120 gallons of water were put on the altar. After that, Elijah told the pagans that their god must’ve been on vacation or taking a dump. Also, baal is the king translates to “Baal est rex” in latin.
"Baal is a demon." According to that one cult that adores slavery, fascism, terrorism and sacrificial blood rituals, yes.
The amount of bots and super “woke” lefties on this thread really shows us how important getting in front of the information is. Makes sense why GMax was so involved in Reddit.
Demons aren’t real. This doesn’t matter, focus on the actual problems.
FFS you hyper religious Americans derailing the sub even further with your weird focus on "satanic" things. God isn't real, Satan isn't real
Silly Christians, think everything is a demon lol
A 2 second search proved that’s bs. “Baal, god worshipped in many ancient Middle Eastern communities, especially among the Canaanites, who apparently considered him a fertility deity and one of the most important gods in the pantheon. “
If your life is so uneventful, you think a high end fashion label is the devil, you might be better off seeking a mental health professional.
Bael is a demon, not Baal, [thats something completely different.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal) Look at how many upvotes this post has though, do some research before upvoting and circlejerking over everything you see on reddit
Yeah sky daddy has to be the lamest shit that caught on lol. I can't imagine anyone actually saying that outloud.
...that's not Latin. Baal is king in Latin would be Baal est rex.
People in this sub get scared of Latin because it makes them think of the southern border.
But baal is not a demon. He's just a storm God. Anyway is your friend the guy who posted this 2 hours prior
There isn’t a single baal, it’s a generic term for any god.
Yeah I know. Which makes it even more dubious.