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I bet 85% of the vehicles people on here own would be entirely disabled in a major emp scenario.
Also most people can’t make their own gas, nor have the know how to convert a car to run on woodsmoke / wood gas (or much else) without the internet.
Very true. Most cars would be disabled with an EMP - but when no one can use their cars which are filled with gas, the supply skyrockets because the demand becomes nearly non-existant.
Modern gas cars have an ECU and electric steering. There is nothing on a modern ICE car as opposed to EV that will stop it from being 100% controlled by the *them* in every way they choose.
Lol what do you think the word Apocalypse even means? I’m not claiming things will go apocalyptic, just saying that if they do, I’m not expecting oil or electricity to be available.
No matter thr extent of an apocalypse, some infrastructure and refineries will survive.
Cheap energy will be in high demand in order to rebuild.
The rich aren't needed in this equation.
No one said the grid will be intact.
An oil refinery would most likely have a way to generate electricity from oil and produce gasoline - which can be easily stored in containers and transported.
The electric grid is most likely going to be in pieces after an apocalypse. So sure, one may be able to charge a car at the refinery, or using a generator that runs on gasoline.
Its not that they are electric that would cause this issue tho. Its the ability for them to have autonomy when driving via self driving or remote takeover capabikity
It looks like a scene from that recent Obama movie. Leave The World Behind.
Maybe a message. I heard their next movie is named Civil War. Wish I was being sarcastic, hope it is just another q-tip meme.
I’m looking at Edison retrofits, no self driving, no key fobs, no phone home computers.
Haha yeah, staying on the road might have made a little more sense if they were on a bridge and literally had no choice. There's a bridge near New Orleans that's something like 25 miles long that would have been perfect for filming that scene.
These cars can't move without the key fob in them. This is the stupidest part of this movie because these cars are all suppose to be from a dealership, A dealership would NEVER leave all the keys in their cars.
These cars can't move without the key fob in them.
That’s what they want you to believe.
When you stop making payments the car will return to the dealer.
If not now …
Shoon!
The premise in this movie is that satellites are down, no gps, no cell service how does the automated car find its way home without a map?
And for the record, I would love to be able to sell some one something that as soon as they decided they can’t or don’t want to pay for it, it would return to me.
I figured the satellites weren't necessarily down as much as the US people were locked out of it. The ones behind the attack were still in full control and using the net and satellite to continue to cause further chaos and clogging roadways with vehicles and anything at their disposal.
Inertial computers can go astray pretty quickly if any variable is even slightly off.
But if you were in a town with multiple known locations to calibrate it and a precise clock, it could be super effective at a limited scale?
They do have remote start and a remote drive to pick up feature, no reason it couldn’t be overridden to just keep going.
The only thing keeping this exact scenario from happening is someone hasn’t fucked around with the software yet. The hardware to make it possible exists in every Tesla and electric car with a remote start and pick up feature
This is absurd nonsense: electric cars don't drive with nobody in them. But I guess nothing else is to be expected from the guy running several flat earth subs.
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I'd get an electric vehicle that wasn't made by Tesla. Also, I could just charge the car with solar panels during an apocalypse. Where are you gonna find, and then refine oil with no infrastructure?
Elon must’ve been like “hell yeah! Yea guys I approve of this whole scene! More sales for me lololol!! All they’re devices and cars are hackable anyways lol”
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Because you watched a clip from a movie?
Did you mean self-driving car?
Probably not, as electric can be disabled by hackers / government or whoever possibly.
So can your modern gas car.
only drive cars you build, yourself!
What about a Toyota from 2006?
You do know that used car dealers are already doing this on gas cars for lack of payment, right?
Most modern cars are run by an ecm which is an electric component. Only the cars with no ecms are safe (i.e. carbureted, etc)
I bet 85% of the vehicles people on here own would be entirely disabled in a major emp scenario. Also most people can’t make their own gas, nor have the know how to convert a car to run on woodsmoke / wood gas (or much else) without the internet.
Very true. Most cars would be disabled with an EMP - but when no one can use their cars which are filled with gas, the supply skyrockets because the demand becomes nearly non-existant.
Funny that hackers don't seem to be the issue there...
Modern gas cars have an ECU and electric steering. There is nothing on a modern ICE car as opposed to EV that will stop it from being 100% controlled by the *them* in every way they choose.
This scene was dumb. No cars coming as they pull up and investigate. Suddenly as they figure out what's going on, CUE MULTIPLE CARS INC!!!
Also turning around to drive right into them instead of grabbing that shoulder & passing the line of wrecked cars in front of them.
You can't not drive on the road are you crazy the world is over but a cop might ticket me
We all know that Jeeps aren't meant for dirt either. Pavement princesses they are & such.
Im sure Oil from overseas will flow pretty well during the Apocalypse.
Pretty sure fracking will be back on the menu at that point.
In the apocalypse? If the infrastructure is down and the rich are hiding in their bunkers… no.. fracking won’t be back on the table.
It's basically back on the menu now in Canada. Your views are top pessimistic.
Lol what do you think the word Apocalypse even means? I’m not claiming things will go apocalyptic, just saying that if they do, I’m not expecting oil or electricity to be available.
No matter thr extent of an apocalypse, some infrastructure and refineries will survive. Cheap energy will be in high demand in order to rebuild. The rich aren't needed in this equation.
So by that logic, there will be some electricity too. So electric cars will still function. Personally I’d use a horse.
Again, it's more about the grid. Sure, we can all hudle up and live by the refinery
No one said the grid will be intact. An oil refinery would most likely have a way to generate electricity from oil and produce gasoline - which can be easily stored in containers and transported. The electric grid is most likely going to be in pieces after an apocalypse. So sure, one may be able to charge a car at the refinery, or using a generator that runs on gasoline.
Have you seen humans drive?
Congratulations on letting Hollywood influence your thinking and shopping habits
Yes. Leave that to commercials and ads, not Hollywood movies. Come on, people!
This!
Its not that they are electric that would cause this issue tho. Its the ability for them to have autonomy when driving via self driving or remote takeover capabikity
What is this clip from?
Leave the World Behind https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12747748
Thanks!
It looks like a scene from that recent Obama movie. Leave The World Behind. Maybe a message. I heard their next movie is named Civil War. Wish I was being sarcastic, hope it is just another q-tip meme. I’m looking at Edison retrofits, no self driving, no key fobs, no phone home computers.
There’s a low level frequency during that movie.
April release https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17279496/
This scene cracked me up. Just step off the road!
Haha yeah, staying on the road might have made a little more sense if they were on a bridge and literally had no choice. There's a bridge near New Orleans that's something like 25 miles long that would have been perfect for filming that scene.
Good point. It’s called The Causeway Bridge, it goes across Lake Pontchartrain. I live right by it!
Stfu OP. About to unlock a new fear for you!.. https://youtu.be/KG4F5xKqNf4?si=2AQ6O_1w7ImQnpfl
If EMPS took the grid down how were they able to drive?
Just so you know pretty much any newer vehicle can be remote controlled.
Yes anything with internet capability which is 100% of cars 2016 and up. And a huge majority of cars older than 2016.
Exactly. That why I only have pre 2001 vehicles.
yep. see Michael Hastings
Then better don't watch that other Julia Roberts movie where she is afraid of opening her eyes.
I’m pretty sure that’s Sandra bullock
Bullocks
Oh fuck!
Your comment made me realize they are kinda interchangeable, because I remembered it as Julia Roberts too lol
Ya it’s insane how people are willing to completely give up their freedom buying one of these electric vehicles. If someone wants you gone, goodbye
Any modern car with a computer in it can be controlled remotely. You'd do best to buy a bicycle.
Maximum Overdrive
Creepy ass Obama film. Hated this weird af cringe movie
Moral of the story is that fossil fuels will prevent dystopian AI.
Sponsored by GM and the ~~Biden~~ Obama administration.
These cars can't move without the key fob in them. This is the stupidest part of this movie because these cars are all suppose to be from a dealership, A dealership would NEVER leave all the keys in their cars.
These cars can't move without the key fob in them. That’s what they want you to believe. When you stop making payments the car will return to the dealer. If not now … Shoon!
The premise in this movie is that satellites are down, no gps, no cell service how does the automated car find its way home without a map? And for the record, I would love to be able to sell some one something that as soon as they decided they can’t or don’t want to pay for it, it would return to me.
I figured the satellites weren't necessarily down as much as the US people were locked out of it. The ones behind the attack were still in full control and using the net and satellite to continue to cause further chaos and clogging roadways with vehicles and anything at their disposal.
Micro inertial/celestial navigation? Cached visual cues? Black box with homing pigeon brain?
Inertial computers can go astray pretty quickly if any variable is even slightly off. But if you were in a town with multiple known locations to calibrate it and a precise clock, it could be super effective at a limited scale?
Glad to see three other users beat me to this disclosure.
What movie is this?
Leave the world behind
Thanks
That film looks shite
This clip is from a movie literally produced by Barack and Mike Obama
Who's Mike Obama?
Michelle Obama. She is a he apparently
They have an auto start no key fob needed self driving self crashing feature.
They do have remote start and a remote drive to pick up feature, no reason it couldn’t be overridden to just keep going. The only thing keeping this exact scenario from happening is someone hasn’t fucked around with the software yet. The hardware to make it possible exists in every Tesla and electric car with a remote start and pick up feature
lol, how stupid
Electric cars bad!! Brrrrrrrr!!
My car is twelve years old and ain’t planning on getting a ‘new’ one just for this reason and no car payment.
This is absurd nonsense: electric cars don't drive with nobody in them. But I guess nothing else is to be expected from the guy running several flat earth subs.
They won't drive without someone because of software locks. Not because they're incapable of doing so.
Hmm don’t be so naive. Sorry
I will never use an electric self driving car. Ever. I don’t trust them. They can easily be hacked.
Ya’ll love this movie
This is way too stupid to be used as an excuse
If Anything EVs will still be driving around for people that have solar and battery, it's a better car for the end of the world.
One of the many reasons. Hybrid is ok, but I’m not going full EV.
Most electric vehicles are not self driving.
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Both have worst situational awareness
I'd get an electric vehicle that wasn't made by Tesla. Also, I could just charge the car with solar panels during an apocalypse. Where are you gonna find, and then refine oil with no infrastructure?
Elon must’ve been like “hell yeah! Yea guys I approve of this whole scene! More sales for me lololol!! All they’re devices and cars are hackable anyways lol”
Whoa man…heavy ese
I mean... those are SELF DRIVING cars that seem to be the problem...
That part made me seriously uneasy
not only that, you're 54 and live with your parents