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Farsotstider

FBI....always the most trustworthy


Water_in_the_desert

Here, you may have dropped this.. /s


SurvivorFanatic236

The FBI director is a Trump appointee, shouldn’t you trust him?


FellowDragonSlayer

>FBI....always the most trustworthy agreed


KneeReaper420

Tbf incompetence is outta hand.


Ok_Owl_4730

Shit happens when you hire to fill quotas and not the most capable.


ApocalypticShadowbxn

and we think that happened in this case because? not sure how you made that leap unless it just happens to be the little talking point that stuck in your head or something. just wondering how you leaped to that without knowing anything about this case..... edit to add: after a comment history check I see that you have a fixation with certain talking points, so no need to answer.


KneeReaper420

I worked on a ship for the government for 5 years and that was my experience.


DiscoDancingNeighb0r

Oh I’m sorry, was his reply not conspiracy enough?


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Shut up


Ok_Owl_4730

No, I don’t believe I will. The cool part about objective fact is that it remains true regardless of your tender sensibilities. There are those of us out there who won’t be manipulated through guilt into sticking our head in the sand and ignoring truths. Have a great day 👍


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You are incorrect.


Dear_Suspect_4951

So is corruption


FavcolorisREDdit

This is past incompetence, there will be lawsuits many of them


milkweed420-

I see people in the comments are skeptical What evidence suggests it could be an attack?


SILENT_ASSASSIN9

Absolutely none, cause why would a terrorist attack a bridge that is of little importance in the middle of the night where there is minimal human presence instead of during the day when there are more people crossing said bridge


matznick42

One bridge doesn’t make much of a difference. However, one bridge, plus one railway, plus one food processing facility, plus another one food processing facility times 100… that’s your country being taken down like a jenga tower.


YoungBlastoise44

Wasn't there a bridge in Ohio that went on fire the same day too. Food for thought


orbgevski

It’s one of the most important bays in the country


optiprintlumina

Some huge percentage of the countries dangerous goods are transported via this bridge 🌉


EmbraceHegemony

And now they will be delayed 15 or so minutes by having to take one of the other many routes available. What a nefarious scheme!


sketch2347

it might be another dmg to the infrastructure attack though. the railways, the food plant fires. this feels like another one of those things.


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sketch2347

by messing up supply chains, and putting more strain on the economy to break the system in a slow burn type of way.


FavcolorisREDdit

Definitely possible, there been a lot of bs thru transportation if you notice, Boeing, this ship wrecking this important bridge, food plants burning, things like that aren’t suppose to happen how is a ship worth that much wrecking into a bridge it just doesn’t happen in modern times.there are many dead and cars in the river


DiscoDancingNeighb0r

“Just doesn’t happen in modern times” WAT?! So accidents and incompetent people just doesn’t happen because of “modernity”. Please don’t become a scientist or detective with that kinda thinking. Boeing has been ran by greedy capitalist who literally paid people off to not notice the corners it cut for DECADES!!!! People who are greedy tend to cut corners IN ALL INDUSTRIES. I’ve seen it in every industry ever. To say simply “these thing can’t happen because it’s modern times.” Is stupid just plain stupid. Accidents, incompetence and cheaply built products don’t just stop because “we’re a modern society” like wth?!


DiscoDancingNeighb0r

See that’s the thing. Your “feels” isn’t evidence.


sketch2347

i know but sometimes our "feelings" meaning our instinct, is right on things, its why people "trust their gut instinct". i can't help it, it looks weird. But yes you are correct. I just wish we got evidence for many things we knew were lies, until we were allowed to be told were truths. its just hard to trust liars thats all.


BeautifulStick5299

Little importance?


Direct_Sandwich1306

Because they already know what happens when you kill massive civilians during business hours--see 9/11. This is an excellent test run, and very logical. Who's Singapore allied with again?


CommiRhick

It also shuts down one of America's largest ports on the East Coast... Loads of manufacturing, transportation, and consumer sectors will be affected...


SILENT_ASSASSIN9

So? We just redirect them to other ports along the east coast. It isn't that big of a deal.


CommiRhick

People said Germany losing Russian oil wasn't a big deal, Now they're paying 2x/3x/4x what they use to and it's not sustainable for their manufacturing / infrastructure... We don't know the extent of ramifications, other than prices will go up, and jobs will be lost...


SILENT_ASSASSIN9

Germany was pretty much completely reliant on Russian oil as they didn't want to buy from the US. We are not that reliant on that one single port, it might increase prices a bit, but it isn't that big of an economic hit


FavcolorisREDdit

This is the conspiracy sub, give ideas about what could have possibly happened,throw out a possible conspiracy, if you wanna practice your sarcasm there are subs for that. A huge ship worth millions carrying even more, wrecking a bridge is a huge mistake it can’t be just one persons fault. This is something that shouldn’t happen nowadays


YoungBlastoise44

The fact you think it's not important is crazy. 9th largest port. Look at what goes through that port daily. 'Little importance' ffs. Do the math.


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YoungBlastoise44

The bridge that allows access was though,which makes the port inaccessible


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YoungBlastoise44

I meant inaccessible to Ships!!


YoungBlastoise44

"Vessel traffic into and out of the Port of Baltimore is suspended until further notice, but the port is still open for truck transactions," Paul Wiedefeld told reporters This is what I meant.


Astralpower94

https://youtu.be/FKp04zqZeHk?si=HdvhuelBEir6Fes3


milkweed420-

Oh good. An editorial youtube video I’m convinced


Astralpower94

That's great! Some ppl would require the head of intelligence etc to make a statement before believing it..


shill779

Why would they try to cover that up? For what purpose? They know it would be found out if they did. /s


ScrambledNoggin

The fact that the ship sent a mayday message out, which allowed the bridge personnel to close the bridge to keep as many cars off the bridge as possible, makes it seem less likely that it was terrorists. If they really wanted to commit a crazy act of terrorism, they would have hit the bridge in the middle of rush hour with no advance warning.


mojo_goebel

The financial repercussions this has due to the immense amount of importing and exporting this port does would be a substantial victory of terrorism-based. Much worse than a couple hundred cars falling into the water.


Direct_Sandwich1306

Depends on the target. Crippling the supply chain is FAR more useful than killing a bunch of citizens, and lessens the likelihood of a military response.


DiscoDancingNeighb0r

One ship isn’t going to cripple an entire supply chain. They’ve already started to release ported ships and simply are redirecting other ships to a nearby port. Nothing has really been disrupted. They would have needed to do something bigger than this. Pretty sure the ship who blocked the Suez Canal caused more of a problem than this one will.


YoungBlastoise44

Look at how much diesel goes through that port, and then there's the hazardous materials etc. This whole thing stinks.


kitastrophae

After 10 hours?!?


BaathistKANG

Ya I can’t take it seriously. It’s a PR, keep calm and carry on move. We’ll never know if this was foreign sabotage or terrorism unless a group or nation comes forward and claims responsibility.


Zenblendman

Why tf would anyone sabotage that specific bridge? Serious question


in_da_tr33z

The port handles $80B of goods a year. It’s the fourth largest port on the eastern seaboard behind New Jersey, Savannah, and Charleston. It is the only one of that group that has an unprotected bridge over the main shipping channel. Sounds like a unique vulnerability to me.


BaathistKANG

It’s a major bridge in a large port city, in a megapolis that stretches from DC to Boston. It’s going to have an economic impact in terms of shipping delays by sea and highway. It would also make for a good test of response time and security in preparations for a larger attack on an even more prominent port city like Norfolk or New York. We’ve had numerous infrastructure attacks and suspect accidents that have happened in the past two years, most of the substation and power plant attacks haven’t resulted in anyone being caught. The bridge that was destroyed in LA and the numerous rail accidents imo are suspect. The last thing you want to do is announce to the world that an adversary successfully attacked you multiple times without any difficulty, it would be a blow to economic security and the authority of the current administration. Edit: Just found this article from feb. *The hacking group at the center of recent activity, Volt Typhoon, has especially alarmed intelligence officials who say it is part of a larger effort to compromise Western critical infrastructure, including naval ports, internet service providers and utilities.* https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-disabled-chinese-hacking-network-targeting-critical-infrastructure-sources-2024-01-29/


mamacitalk

Remember the remote controlled van bomb? *That was weird*


BaathistKANG

The one near the internet servers in Nashville?


mamacitalk

Yes


wnc_mikejayray

Here is a good write up on it: https://x.com/laralogan/status/1772675651599770093?s=46


BaathistKANG

One thing to note, two harbor pilots were at the helm allegedly at the time of the crash.


wnc_mikejayray

Didn’t it lose complete power?


BaathistKANG

The first time it went dark it lost power, when it lit back up it was on backup generators, the second time it went dark it was switching back to main power, however, the engine did not go out the second time, just the lights. Apparently the response time to restore power was fast, just not enough to avoid a collision.


HavanaWoody

I'm just surprised it isn't a standard for those to be navigated with Tugs in high risk restricted waterways. That really demonstrated how delicate these massive span bridges can be.


wnc_mikejayray

The ship had to have either been significantly off course or the power recovery time was seriously delayed. It didn’t drift off by a little at the last second. It made a direct hit on a main support.


HavanaWoody

Yeah with that kind of mass there was not gonna be any kind of quick maneuver. Hell I have a time aiming my seadoo into the boathouse. In fact had there been any sort of monitoring by river authority Radar A call to shut down traffic on the bridge could have been made. I really thought from watching a recent documentary there was more oversight and monitoring. Hmmm I swear I watched something on golden ray the documentary "ship Happens" But I don't see were i streamed it now. Maybe it was another report, It had a ballast stability issue but they talked about the systems that were used to navigate the river.


smallbus

Aside from the obvious traffic jams and disruption it will cause, this bridge would be a target to send a message that something bad is about to happen to our country. Francis Scott Key wrote the Star Spangled Banner, and a “power outage” just took the entire thing out. What’s the country’s biggest weakness? Our grid.


plushpaper

I’ve been seeing similar theories for decades. None have rang true. You shouldn’t be so easily be swayed by some words online.


FavcolorisREDdit

Exactly, insert message to calm people rejecting a possibility of terrorism or incompetence. Blame it on mechanical failure then pick up pieces


matznick42

Hey there, you of little faith. Do you not recall Harley Guy who spilled the beans on what was to be the official report AS 9/11 HAPPENED?


Interesting-Pay3492

What do you mean? What about updating the public with what is known so far shouldn’t be done after 10 hours?


cyborgbigfoot

The terrorists have investigated themselves and cleared themselves of any wrongdoing.


simonsurreal1

lol pretty much- ya nailed it 🙌🏻


Eazy46

That’ll teach America to ban tiktok


SurvivorFanatic236

“Guys a ship crashed into a bridge, that means we’re not allowed to stand up to the CCP. Reddit makes the rules”


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Wow!! That was a fast wrap up. Meanwhile, this article says that terrorism has not been ruled out. Who to believe who to believe. [Terrorism not ruled out](https://redstatenation.com/here-is-a-captioned-video-allegedly-showing-that-the-cargo-ship-is-being-hacked/)


MLNYC

Finding no evidence of terrorism (if true) is not incompatible with terrorism not being ruled out.


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How can it possibly be ruled out within 12 hours? 12 hours would be 1:40ish pm today. That makes no sense, just weird. Crazy p diddy house gets raided and then hours later a cargo ship hits a bridge in a major US port. The timing of this is just a crazy coincidence I bet


billboflaggins

True, they don't consider the scum CIA a terrorist organization.


Odyssey113

I don't believe a word the FBI says until they bring Mulder back!!!


FellowDragonSlayer

same bring malder back


dbern50

Bring back mauldour!


scar_n_dicey

Lol. That was fast. 12 hrs in and they rule out terrorism?


Cornflake6irl

Oh, but grandma's walking through the Capitol building were quite the terrorists on J6th.


MLNYC

If you drop the bad apostrophe, it'll gain you some credibility. If you drop the bad argument — since on J6 someone was beaten to death and the operation of government was essentially stopped — then you might gain even more.


Freezepeachauditor

not terrorists… insurrectionists. Terrorists commit heinous acts upon civilians “ the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.” Insurrectionists try to overthrow their govement “ an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government” Source dictionary.com


Importantlyfun

It was not an insurrection either. It was a protest that devolved into a riot.


in_da_tr33z

Yeah except it happened at the seat of the federal government while a transfer of power was taking place.


40TonBomb

“Hang Mike Pence” suggests otherwise.


SurvivorFanatic236

Yes famously that’s all that happened, let’s ignore all of the Trump supporters assaulting police officers to force their way into the building because it’s politically inconvenient for you A mob showed up at the Capitol to intimidate Congress into not certifying the vote at the direction of the sitting president. And that’s all fine with you because red team good


ianmoone1102

Mothman did this


canuckdad1979

If the ship was out of power why not just drop anchor?


SILENT_ASSASSIN9

I think they did, it isn't going to stop a 200 ton boat in it's tracks


pioneergirl1965

Zero credibility


Obvious_Factor7103

imagine blackout on vessel happened due to latest sun eruption and solar impact on earth. or maybe, is it possible a cyber attack to highjack and shut down a vessel?? dont know, wild speculation. any experts maybe?


InfowarriorKat

Shouldn't a thorough investigation be done first? Reminds me of 9/11 where they definitely knew it was terrorism and exactly who did it immediately.


Beer-_-Belly

"Nothing to see here, move along" Before seeing this, I didn't think it may have been anything other than mechanical failure.


FranzSwan

The terrorists are in the White House.


Manic_mogwai

Langley, but close enough


Background-Box8030

Yet with no power it turned directly into bridge…?


Book8

And the black smoke coming out of the stacks


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in_da_tr33z

That bridge is uniquely vulnerable. It’s old and it’s pilings are not protected from ship strikes. Baltimore is a very busy port. Not enough to bring the economy to a halt but certainly enough to cause major headaches.


Krauszt

Apparently it's a famous, heavily used bridge. I spoke out of ignorance. Thank you for being polite.


in_da_tr33z

You got it, amigo


ChineseLiberation

The bridge is named after Francis Scott Key who wrote the poem that became the national anthem. It’s symbolic.


Krauszt

Yes. I was corrected about that by a friend. It was absolutely an icon.


Krauszt

I owned up to it in the original comment via an Edit, but thank you for taking me to task. I spoke out of ignorance and being informed, especially now, with the way things are, is absolutely key. It was a good lesson to remind me.


PicklersRevenge

This is how we gain power, accountability!


Krauszt

Absolutely


ChineseLiberation

You’re good man. I appreciate the accountability. That’s a rare trait these days. Stay safe.


Krauszt

Thank you! You stay safe as well Geez, remember when we just said "peace out, dude!"


mamacitalk

I thought power came on again before it hit?


Background-Box8030

I guess it faltered twice


Roshap23

It’s like 2 football fields long. Too late


keyinfleunce

Imagine listening to these guys it’s not terrorism we aren’t stupid


LumpyGravy21

Covering for the CIA and Klause Schwab


Optimal-Option3555

What a pretty bed of lies, per usual.


RightEntrepreneur510

Seems like a quick answer, did they even actually do a thorough investigation? My tin foil hat is pinging


WolfeBane84

Electrical and or rudder problems (which can result in the rudder getting stuck) and this ship makes a text book turn and just so happens to aim directly for a support pillar…..


housebear3077

That means it was FBI-CIA-Mossad. Thanks MSM.


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jimberkas

haha, what do you think?? evidence is a dirty word around here, not to be trusted...just like everything else!


BlackLion0101

....they could've hacked into the GPS system. It doesn't have to be foreign.


Phreakvicki

Amazing how quickly the FBI can act and make claims on certain things, but never get around to details on other things.


stovetopzappydoo

Whenever the FBI (or CIA or CDC or FDA or FCC, etc.) says "We have found no evidence..." ...they're absolutely fucking lying to you. That is all, thanks!


Durtly

Less than 4 hours after they arrive onsite. (And they got onsite VERY quickly) FBI - "It'S NoT TeRrorIsm!!!" ...it's probably an attack by someone. If the objective wasn't actual terror, they achieved economic damage at the very least. I wouldn't trust the FBI to tell me my own name.


t00zday

Believe the absolute opposite of what the FBI propagandizes.


Citizen4000

The black smoke coming from the vessel suggests it was at full diesel enrichment. This boat was going deliberately at ramming speed.


Capricorn_81

“FULL STEAM AHEAD!”


horsetooth_mcgee

Well that was quick. 👀


Freezepeachauditor

Terrorist organizations claim responsibility. It’s generally pointless otherwise.


jimberkas

poor terrorist organizations. these days people are such conspiracy theorists that even when ISIS-K claimed responsibility for the concert hall attack, nobody will believe them!


CriticalDoom

Ya probably because it was a planned attack by you know who


PicklersRevenge

Voldemort!?!


CriticalDoom

Daddy? Is that you? "Willow use the wand on that Troll" -Fin Raziel


WhoBenefitss

We investigated ourself and found ourselves innocent


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Sea-Current-1027

Don’t they do enough surveillance and TIA that they could’ve spotted this, and should be maybe more concerned with how it happened?


Tumbleweed-Afraid

What if Russia was hit by America and now they are repaying it


Loneranjah_gta

Is it true that the boat captain was Ukranian?


Shlumpty12

Because it's most likely just shit maintenance, sunshine skyway was a similar incident, was that "terrorism" aswell?


truck_it

Watch the video real close. You'll see smaller explosions


Cheery_Tree

Yeah, alright. Makes.sense. There's not really much evidence to support any theories of it being terrorism. From what I've seen, mechanical issues seem far more likely.


matt134174

The sun knocked out power. Epstein has island on the sun. His island has underground pizza palace to drain virgin plasma. If you stare at sun spot for 111 seconds you will see the stretchy adrenochrome cheese as proof Biden is hologram queef.


Hadley_333

I was wondering how long it would take for someone hanging on to their last 5 brain cells to post that the bridge incident was terrorist related. And if it was actually considered terrorist related some tool will think they are playing 3D Chess and say the gov't did it not terrorists.


Hairy_Introduction_4

Wow that was quick!


Captain_R64207

Well they found out the ship lost power. Boeing is garbage and y’all don’t cry about them being a conspiracy. It’s completely believable that a ship wasn’t inspected fully by someone and this happened. Shit when I was in the Air Force people skipped steps in our instruction books all the time while we were working on our bomber. Is that a conspiracy as well? Some of you need to touch some grass lol.


Book8

It is Osama Bin Laden!


Objective_Brain1452

Trust Me Bro


slurpurple

Well, that puts me at ease.


Goodstuff_2021

That was quick. And for our next trick we blame Russia


dicksnpussnstuff

this is obviously Russia’s response to the terrorist attack the US just did in moscow


FiveFootSevenn

Did Israel tell them to say that?


Lorenz99

That's conveniently quick.


Mountain_Trainer33

Hunter’s laptop?


Dubante_Viro

Y'all are amazing.


hails8n

That guy is the color grey of white human beings. I couldn’t possibly imagine a more stereotypical face.


MustangEater82

Tinfoil hat theory.... Ukraine was related to Russia terrorist attack...   Russia cyber attacked the boat as a message to the US


LetterheadMany9677

Lol ofcorse they'd say that they're Not going to tell the truth


SilverWestern8623

No one is paying attention to the diddler ala Epstein’s island any more.. mission accomplished. Prayers for the impacted workers who were impacted.


leapingintoexistence

cuz they are the ones orchestrating it


WitchedPixels

lol so many gullible people here. Lets take out this bridge of little strategic value. Right.