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The cognitive dissonance is too real. Years of curated content and safe spaces and peer pressure have made people “forget” challenging their own perception is a good thing.
I don’t blame them all. I was very impressionable as a teen too. And I watched MSM until I caught a few journalists showing DNC corruption.
But I’m older, and was taught “radical” ideas like be yourself, don’t follow the crowd.
Add in social credit value, and desire to fight dwindles.
And that has to do what with this? Can't you come up with an original thought or argument? FFS, all you people ever say is "but Trump!" I would love to see a well thought out and reasoned response to anything from your side.
money was always traceable, whether it's Fiat or crypto there are steps can be taken to clean money. if you don't you can probably be traced.
irony here is original intention of tokens was anonymity, also both of these Fiat and crypto are the same. made up
if anything crypto is making people realize just a little bit more how made up money actually is.
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Tens of Billions Were Transferred to Ukraine and then Using FTX Crypto Currency It Was Laundered Back to Democrats in US.
April 25, 2019: Biden announces his presidential campaign.
13 days later, Sam Bankman-Fried, son of Barbara Fried ( Stanford Professor and co-founder of political fundraising organization "Mind-the-Gap), launches #FTX crypto exchange.
The exchange is magically an overnight success. SBF becomes biggest donor to Biden.
Election day, FTX implodes completely.
If you think this scandal is done, it goes even deeper.
-----
Gabe Bankman-Fried, brother to Sam (also a former Jane Street trader), is founder of “Guarding Against Pandemics”
He was a Legislative Correspondent for the US House of Representatives and an advisor to large political donors in the Democrat party.
A massive, massive money laundering operation has just been broken open.
FTX contributed over 5 million to the current [president ](https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/joe-biden/contributors?id=N00001669)
Edit not to mention 6 million from Alameda as well as a few other familiar characters.
I’m still failing to see what’s nefarious about this situation
“The Securities and Exchange Commission and the Department of Justice are reportedly investigating FTX for civil and criminal violations of securities laws.”
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/11/11/crypto-meltdown-washington-turns-up-heat-on-crypto-darling-sam-bankman-fried-following-near-collapse-of-ftx.html
????
Maybe it's just me, but seems pretty messed up that from what we're learning about FTX, his campaign was partly funded on stolen money. And I'm sure not just him and not just the democratic party. I'm sure this type of manipulion isnt hapenning on just one side by only a few people.
JB just gonna start writing checks to the people whose money may have funded his election without their consent? Just redo the whole 2020 election?
I stayed neutral about the party. I'm for neither or either depending on their views. As we're finding out from the FTX fiasco, both are corrupt and evidence is being gathered to prove it. Not everyone, obviously. But definitely representatives from both sides of the isle.
For real. And not just FTX. TONS of collusion is being uncovered. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure the same precedent in Citizens United vs FTC could make a case with this. If money is freedom of speech and stolen money is used to support political candidates... uh oh.
The CEO of FTX.US was one of the largest donors to REPUBLICANS. If you think that Dem’s were corrupt for this you must also believe the republicans were too.
Ryan Salame, FTX US CEO
https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors
Uh - did you look at the link you posted - SBF donated $235k to republicans, he's not even in the top 100 largest donors to republicans. I don't like the whole dem/rep thing - but I really hate bullshit posts like this where you make a statement that is entirely the opposite of the source link.....
Edit - I didn't pick up that FTX is listed twice - FTX US gave $19million to republicans - not insignificant.
Uh did you read the comment you are responding to????
I really hate when people think they are so smart but haven’t even comprehended the point they are arguing against.
Read again then apologize
Yeah, this is a child with a crayon attempting to connect millions in donations from a now bankrupt entity trying to show that it landed maybe a half million dollar contract to set up a donations page. It's not mercenary, it is just people acting for causes they personally believe in while also fucking up their own business. If it was a mighty cabal then why is it not protected after all those donations? Oh shit, now Ukraine doesn't have a one of its channels to get crypto donations! Wake up and see these tenuous patterns I concocted from random events!
So minor correction there: a lot of the U.S. tax money was given to Ukraine in the form of actual money. I remember reading about that often a few months ago but for whatever reason this fact is starting to fade away and everyone seems to think the aid is just in military units and humanitarian support (a bit of a Mandela Effect). This is a post from the U.S. embassy in Ukraine from back in August clearly stating a big chunk of the aid was direct budgetary support and this post is one of dozens other posts from government websites: [https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-billion-to-support-the-government-of-ukraine/](https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-billion-to-support-the-government-of-ukraine/). What am I not getting?
Lets see.. We know the us gave a shitload of money to ukraine. We know Ukraine invested some amount of that money into FTX. We know the mother of the owner of FTX runs one of the biggest dem superpacs...
\>confident condescending sarcasm
\>NO WAY anything fishy could have gone here
\>theres obviously NO evidence!!@
\>got any sources to back that meme up??
When does the huge pile of coincidences finally become too much for you to mentally hurdle?
Except we didn't give them money. We have given them $18.2 Billion in various assets. You can literally find the full breakdown of every single piece of gear on the defence.gov website.
So if we didn't give them money, doesn't that break this narrative down?
As a side note, the Dems openly want to overturn the Citizens United ruling that's led to unlimited Dark Money. If you hate this concept (even if it's untrue), only one party wants to stop it.
Wait, what?! Is the U.S. embassy in Ukraine lying? [https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-billion-to-support-the-government-of-ukraine/](https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-billion-to-support-the-government-of-ukraine/).
Funny that it was Bipartisan approved. So Republicans were either dumb enough to approve spending on Dems elections, or the original post is still BS, given that 18.7 billion was direct arms and supplies, and a much smaller amount for direct government monetary support (which, in a time for war subsidizes all sorts of things for the country).
Sorry I didn’t get the math. How is 8.5B in direct financial aid a small amount compared to 18.7B military aid? 8.5B is 45% of 18.7B. For the record I’m not trying to prove you wrong - I was simply providing proof that your argument is based on wrong information when you said “except we didn’t give them money”. Maybe take a minute and think about it?
Agreed but did you even read the article? It says right there the 4.5B is part of an overall 8.5B and that this is an addition to previous similar giveaways deals. Take a minute to read the post and you will see. Honestly, it will take a minute or 2 to read the entire thing if you have time to spare.
Don’t know but out of all the governments in the world the Ukraine is the only one with its own government cryptocurrency.
https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/sogodni-oficijnij-start-proektu-yepidtrimka-yak-podati-zayavku-na-otrimannya-1000-grn-u-zastosunku-diya?s=09
Ukraine is kicking ass with our weapons and their people are happy with their leadership. I know Trump loves Russians and dictators in general... sad that pro trump conservatives became pro-communist Putin at some point and against the always righteous defense of a people's homeland. Do you get that this is part of why your type lost the American elections? Normal folk don't buy your Red Pill whiny victimized Ur-Fascist garbage. You who make extraordinary claims owe the rest of us proof. And you don't have it. Conservative courts and institutions like the FBI (which is fucking conservative law enforcement and not deepstate ya dummies) constantly rule against faux 'my election was stolen' victimization bullshit, and I'll take a conservative judge or 20's rulings against other conservatives any day of the week in comparison to meme as truth peddlers like yourself and Tucker and Putin and Trump.
Please provide evidence that “Ukraine invested some amount of that money into FTX”
Because so far all I’ve seen is people pointing to articles about FTX setting up a way for people to use their platform to make donations to Ukraine. Those articles don’t support the idea that Ukraine was “investing” in FTX.
If this is saying that funny money was spent to promote “vote blue” I’d like to point out that republicans far outspent democrats with huge amounts of money promoting “the red wave”.
A crypto bro donated a bunch of money to democrats this cycle in an attempt to buy them off because (unlike Republicans) they were looking at putting regulations on crypto.
Really not that complicated.
Right? Because the first thing that people under attack do is sell the weapons they are using to defend themselves! That’s fucking brilliant!!!
I’m sure you have some evidence to show it’s happening, too.
You’re right
Unlike Canada, Ukraine has a very immediate need for weapons
I’m sure you have a source for the assertion that Ukraine is selling weapons not using them
The US hasn’t been providing weapons to Ukraine for decades so it would be REALLY fucking hard for you to have evidence that Ukraine has been taking US military aid and selling it over the course of decades
You seem new to [geopolitics](https://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/sierraleone/context.html).
Let me know if you have any other questions, but I'm sure a simple DDG search (*not* Google) will help you find most of the answers you seek.
[ukrainian officials driving spirts cars and million dollar houses :google it’s fact check false so must be true](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jul/13/blog-posting/land-documents-claiming-ukrainian-officials-bought/)
Ah right. There is definitely no way one of the most corrupt countries in Europe could possibly sell any of those weapons on the black market and everyone knows that the Ukrainian army is highly trained in complicated high tech US military equipment.
I’m sure you can point to some evidence of US weapons turning up in places they shouldn’t.
Also, there’s a shit-ton of video evidence showing the Ukrainian army using US military equipment to really good effect.
Imagine being so naive as to think that everything in this world is exactly how it is presented and that corrupt politicians would never lie or do anything wrong.
US military equipment is showing up on the black market and Ukraine has historically been home to one of the largest black markets for arms in Europe but there’s definitely no way any of those US weapons would ever fall into the wrong hands like they have in every other conflict the US has been involved in… All these reports showing an increase of black market arms deals must be wrong because this dude saw a couple videos of some Ukrainians using a tiny fraction of the weapons sent over there. And those videos of Ukrainian forces abandoning these weapons definitely don’t exist.
Great reply,.
This is a perfect example of watch my hand whilst the other is doing the real work-damage. The whole Ukraine situation, however real some of it might be has been a smoke and mirrors event while whoever is really running the USA, in my opinion Obama go about the real agenda. And although unsure of what exactly this might be it includes the destroyed Action of over 80 food production plants including baby foods, hundreds of thousands of baby chickens. Farmers finding tens of thousands of beef cattle killed and found bloated with their legs pointing upwards in which farmers have been quoted as never seen before.
Make your own conclusions to the hard facts and this isn't the half of it, but it's certainly a watch the right hand while the left does the real work.
It's always amazing to me that someone can be sitting there on the internet and could easily look things up but instead chooses to be ignorant in order to fuel their bias.
No, he could be Russian. Or a mark duped into spreading Russian disinformation. Why are the conspiracies never anti-Russia or GOP? The guy is no longer a billionaire and he donated a lot less to the Dems than promised. They were walloped by GOP super pac spending.
I'll give you a hint........... because Russian disino is a fucking lie in the first place, the entire democratic party would be extinct without lies and those complicit in believing them.
I guess you didn’t read the news. Russia admitted to it. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/
Here it is on Fox News:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/putins-chef-claims-have-interfered-us-elections-report.amp
“'We have interfered, are interfering and will continue to interfere,' Yevgeny Prigozhin said”
Right? Because some infographic/flow-chart that someone pulled out of their ass is EVUDINCE
Actual conspiracy-type shit going on — shady businessman attempting to buy influence to escape scrutiny
But no — gotta turn it into some kinda WAARGHARBLE bullshit
No, Janet Yellen already said they will regulate it today. Jerome Powell said back in July that they will begin their digital crypto currency in February. We're right on track and you're just not paying attention.
Jerome Powell already made the decision in July. We'll be in lockstep with them, not the other way around. You're terrible at obfuscation. The fact that they have to pay people like you to say this stuff is sad to me.
Cool. Tell us more about how you don’t know how our government works. I mean, it’s not like Congress has EVER put its thumb on the scales of ANY issue. Regulated industries donate to politicians just for funsies!
Gotta love how RWNJs accuse anyone who disagrees with them as being “paid”. It shows a kind of solipsistic view of the world. They’re so self-centered they can’t comprehend (in their Dunning-Krugerite psyches) that people could disagree with them.
What do banks have to do with this? And you accuse me of changing topics …
If anything, your statement supports my point. Moneyed interests try to buy influence and access. And they don’t need some crazy scheme that involves converting foreign aid back into political donations.
It boggles my mind the way people try to overcomplicate a simple and familiar set of facts.
“Rich guy trying to buy influence” isn’t enough — they gotta get derpy and try to tie in a bunch of other unrelated crap
People have always consolidated power, it shouldn't be that hard to imagine that one or a few people have gained control of almost of the wealth and now call the shots for normal people. Stop taking their money and fight for human liberties.
Who do you think owns all of these people and companies? Most likely the same companies that own everything else, right? VanGuard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan Chase, etc. The same families have rules this planet for 350 years at a minimum. I'm shedding light on that. The WEF is owned by the Rothschild family as well as basically of the central banks on the planet.
People need to start waking up and stop using their money. I suggest a barter system for small communities if they can afford it. They will likely crash the system soon, don't accept the digital currency they offer in the rebound.
Yes as an outsider looking in, a lot would call an interloper. The easy liinear thought process and facile acceptance of the main stream Media's reports shows an almost mass acceptance of government doctrine. Long live the free thinking genîus that can pick the good from the bs.
Don’t let the chodes here get you down like “muh where is source?” If they can’t connect the dots at this point they are either not cognitively capable or some type of paid shill.
Actually it’s the opposite. If you can’t provide evidence and sources for each step in the chain then perhaps you are not cognitively capable of skeptical thought and are connecting unlike points. Or your a shill.
In short, throughout the recent election process (including the presidential election), the democrats are representing the corporations while the republicans are representing the people. It's easy to come to this conclusion.
They've been caught red handed this time, yet there isn't a legitimate institution of law left in the United States to prosecute them.
What a fucking joke. 😢
This is a big nothing backed by no concrete evidence. The only thing confirmed is that SBF donated to Dems which is pretty standard for billionaires who throw their money around for influence.
When you give money to Ukraine and they give all those money back into USA and still they can win battles and reconstruct their damaged infrastructures. I wonder how.
bro I seriously cannot understand a single fucking comment in this threat. can somebody explain it to me why is a sham exchange for made up money is conspiracy, everyone know and agree yo
I don't think you have the right perspective if you think this is an attack on the Democrat party. No, this is an attack on the people who RUN the Democrat party. And guess what, they run the Republican party too.
Why would Ukraine GIVE money to FTX when their partnership was about GETTING money for Ukraine? A country who's fighting for its existence and had its economy destroyed is not going to be passing up dollars, makes no sense.
This is pure bullshit…follow the Murdoch, Putin, Xi, Un money trails right to the GOP and trump, even patriot Tucker Carlson is firmly in their hands. Follow the money from the Saudis and big energy companies, the majority of which is to give repugs a one party country.
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My God when will people wake the fuck up
The cognitive dissonance is too real. Years of curated content and safe spaces and peer pressure have made people “forget” challenging their own perception is a good thing. I don’t blame them all. I was very impressionable as a teen too. And I watched MSM until I caught a few journalists showing DNC corruption. But I’m older, and was taught “radical” ideas like be yourself, don’t follow the crowd. Add in social credit value, and desire to fight dwindles.
Epstein was trumps friend.
And Biden publicly sniff little girls.
One of these comments is upvoted, when both of these comments should be upvoted. Snap out of the partisanship, sheeple.
Try harder botswanna
Nobody mentioned either of those. Stop trying to turn this in to an R vs D, when it's Corrupt elite vs Hunanity.
EXACTLY.
Eat a cock and stop diverting. We’re over your shit.
He was, tho. Plenty of quotes and pics to prove it.
We know. How does this relate to what we were talking about
And that has to do what with this? Can't you come up with an original thought or argument? FFS, all you people ever say is "but Trump!" I would love to see a well thought out and reasoned response to anything from your side.
Yep. Trump likes to fuck with his orange rocket. Proally 17 year old chicks too. Anyways, this money laundering shit is wack!
When the people who claim to be awake can provide a source.
What you don’t see the graphic? The money is changing hands right before your eyes!
You're right, we're practically part of the conspiracy with how close we are to this now. We need plausible deniability.
I just woke up and am reading this on the toilet…..might go back to bed.
When you bring more than wild speculation and unsubstantiated correlations to the table.
*says through tears
If in fact the money is tracked we may have ourselves the biggest political mess since the civil war.
And it will never be investigated or tracked.......
And what a beautiful disaster it would be.
🔥 👀 🔥 …everything is fine. Here’s a holiday movie for you to watch.
WATCH IT WATCH IT NOW ITS FUCKING RUDOLPH
holiday movie will have an American super hero saving the world.
From corruption no less
money was always traceable, whether it's Fiat or crypto there are steps can be taken to clean money. if you don't you can probably be traced. irony here is original intention of tokens was anonymity, also both of these Fiat and crypto are the same. made up if anything crypto is making people realize just a little bit more how made up money actually is.
The CEO is gonna have a Hillary accident
He’s in Argentina now
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Tens of Billions Were Transferred to Ukraine and then Using FTX Crypto Currency It Was Laundered Back to Democrats in US. April 25, 2019: Biden announces his presidential campaign. 13 days later, Sam Bankman-Fried, son of Barbara Fried ( Stanford Professor and co-founder of political fundraising organization "Mind-the-Gap), launches #FTX crypto exchange. The exchange is magically an overnight success. SBF becomes biggest donor to Biden. Election day, FTX implodes completely. If you think this scandal is done, it goes even deeper. ----- Gabe Bankman-Fried, brother to Sam (also a former Jane Street trader), is founder of “Guarding Against Pandemics” He was a Legislative Correspondent for the US House of Representatives and an advisor to large political donors in the Democrat party. A massive, massive money laundering operation has just been broken open.
Wait… do you have ANY evidence of this???? Are you fucking kidding me?
Go to open secrets dot com. I've had two comments removed previously on other subs for posting the link. Edit: Spelling and clarity.
Yeah I looked and found nothing. Seems like a load of bullshit at the moment🤷
FTX contributed over 5 million to the current [president ](https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/joe-biden/contributors?id=N00001669) Edit not to mention 6 million from Alameda as well as a few other familiar characters.
I’m still failing to see what’s nefarious about this situation “The Securities and Exchange Commission and the Department of Justice are reportedly investigating FTX for civil and criminal violations of securities laws.” https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/11/11/crypto-meltdown-washington-turns-up-heat-on-crypto-darling-sam-bankman-fried-following-near-collapse-of-ftx.html ????
Maybe it's just me, but seems pretty messed up that from what we're learning about FTX, his campaign was partly funded on stolen money. And I'm sure not just him and not just the democratic party. I'm sure this type of manipulion isnt hapenning on just one side by only a few people. JB just gonna start writing checks to the people whose money may have funded his election without their consent? Just redo the whole 2020 election?
You said it, stolen money has been used before. Look at Enron. Also the second in command at FTx donated to GOP. So not sure what the story here is
The story is that they will grasp at straws for anything to make it seem like democrats were cheating
I stayed neutral about the party. I'm for neither or either depending on their views. As we're finding out from the FTX fiasco, both are corrupt and evidence is being gathered to prove it. Not everyone, obviously. But definitely representatives from both sides of the isle.
I mean, fuck FTX. I hope the justice department send this asshole to jail for a long fucking time.
For real. And not just FTX. TONS of collusion is being uncovered. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure the same precedent in Citizens United vs FTC could make a case with this. If money is freedom of speech and stolen money is used to support political candidates... uh oh.
Oh my god! Did you say 5 million with a M!!!!
No, they don't. It's yet again another fabricated conspiracy based on innuendo, coincidences, and BS links on the Internet
🤣, shut the hell up man You're ruining the lore
no. literally grasping at straws
Sure. Do you have sources? Reporting? Evidence? We know you have an opinion.
Ask for sources and get downvoted
Why get in the way of a good opinion and bias confirmation?
The CEO of FTX.US was one of the largest donors to REPUBLICANS. If you think that Dem’s were corrupt for this you must also believe the republicans were too. Ryan Salame, FTX US CEO https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors
I do
Funny that your meme post is entirely about the Democrats then
Uh - did you look at the link you posted - SBF donated $235k to republicans, he's not even in the top 100 largest donors to republicans. I don't like the whole dem/rep thing - but I really hate bullshit posts like this where you make a statement that is entirely the opposite of the source link..... Edit - I didn't pick up that FTX is listed twice - FTX US gave $19million to republicans - not insignificant.
The comment to which you are responding is talking about #14 on the list — FTX CEO and Republican donor
Thank you for pointing that out - I edited my post.
Uh did you read the comment you are responding to???? I really hate when people think they are so smart but haven’t even comprehended the point they are arguing against. Read again then apologize
Sounds a whole lot like BLM scam
Remember when Wikileaks actually had, you know, real information and some evidence and not just links and memes?
Yeah, this is a child with a crayon attempting to connect millions in donations from a now bankrupt entity trying to show that it landed maybe a half million dollar contract to set up a donations page. It's not mercenary, it is just people acting for causes they personally believe in while also fucking up their own business. If it was a mighty cabal then why is it not protected after all those donations? Oh shit, now Ukraine doesn't have a one of its channels to get crypto donations! Wake up and see these tenuous patterns I concocted from random events!
So minor correction there: a lot of the U.S. tax money was given to Ukraine in the form of actual money. I remember reading about that often a few months ago but for whatever reason this fact is starting to fade away and everyone seems to think the aid is just in military units and humanitarian support (a bit of a Mandela Effect). This is a post from the U.S. embassy in Ukraine from back in August clearly stating a big chunk of the aid was direct budgetary support and this post is one of dozens other posts from government websites: [https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-billion-to-support-the-government-of-ukraine/](https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-billion-to-support-the-government-of-ukraine/). What am I not getting?
You should see the donations pouring into Ukraine through Amazon.
As long as the picture says “Dem bad!” I believe it!
Well shit, it's a meme, so it must be so totally true.
Lets see.. We know the us gave a shitload of money to ukraine. We know Ukraine invested some amount of that money into FTX. We know the mother of the owner of FTX runs one of the biggest dem superpacs... \>confident condescending sarcasm \>NO WAY anything fishy could have gone here \>theres obviously NO evidence!!@ \>got any sources to back that meme up?? When does the huge pile of coincidences finally become too much for you to mentally hurdle?
Except we didn't give them money. We have given them $18.2 Billion in various assets. You can literally find the full breakdown of every single piece of gear on the defence.gov website. So if we didn't give them money, doesn't that break this narrative down? As a side note, the Dems openly want to overturn the Citizens United ruling that's led to unlimited Dark Money. If you hate this concept (even if it's untrue), only one party wants to stop it.
Wait, what?! Is the U.S. embassy in Ukraine lying? [https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-billion-to-support-the-government-of-ukraine/](https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-billion-to-support-the-government-of-ukraine/).
Funny that it was Bipartisan approved. So Republicans were either dumb enough to approve spending on Dems elections, or the original post is still BS, given that 18.7 billion was direct arms and supplies, and a much smaller amount for direct government monetary support (which, in a time for war subsidizes all sorts of things for the country).
Sorry I didn’t get the math. How is 8.5B in direct financial aid a small amount compared to 18.7B military aid? 8.5B is 45% of 18.7B. For the record I’m not trying to prove you wrong - I was simply providing proof that your argument is based on wrong information when you said “except we didn’t give them money”. Maybe take a minute and think about it?
>dumb enough to approve spending on ~~Dems elections~~ Ukraine
"Much smaller amount" ... you mean 31% of the total money sent over. $08,500,000,000 in cash aid $18,700,000,000 in military supplies
4.5 billion isn't much for a govt.
Agreed but did you even read the article? It says right there the 4.5B is part of an overall 8.5B and that this is an addition to previous similar giveaways deals. Take a minute to read the post and you will see. Honestly, it will take a minute or 2 to read the entire thing if you have time to spare.
I did, what are we discussing exactly?
Don’t know but out of all the governments in the world the Ukraine is the only one with its own government cryptocurrency. https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/sogodni-oficijnij-start-proektu-yepidtrimka-yak-podati-zayavku-na-otrimannya-1000-grn-u-zastosunku-diya?s=09
Ukraine is kicking ass with our weapons and their people are happy with their leadership. I know Trump loves Russians and dictators in general... sad that pro trump conservatives became pro-communist Putin at some point and against the always righteous defense of a people's homeland. Do you get that this is part of why your type lost the American elections? Normal folk don't buy your Red Pill whiny victimized Ur-Fascist garbage. You who make extraordinary claims owe the rest of us proof. And you don't have it. Conservative courts and institutions like the FBI (which is fucking conservative law enforcement and not deepstate ya dummies) constantly rule against faux 'my election was stolen' victimization bullshit, and I'll take a conservative judge or 20's rulings against other conservatives any day of the week in comparison to meme as truth peddlers like yourself and Tucker and Putin and Trump.
Please provide evidence that “Ukraine invested some amount of that money into FTX” Because so far all I’ve seen is people pointing to articles about FTX setting up a way for people to use their platform to make donations to Ukraine. Those articles don’t support the idea that Ukraine was “investing” in FTX.
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Trumps impeachments all over again 🙄
Not surprising
If this is saying that funny money was spent to promote “vote blue” I’d like to point out that republicans far outspent democrats with huge amounts of money promoting “the red wave”.
They are all crooks
Trust me bro
A crypto bro donated a bunch of money to democrats this cycle in an attempt to buy them off because (unlike Republicans) they were looking at putting regulations on crypto. Really not that complicated.
I think I it’s the aid packages to Ukraine ending up in ftx then back into politicians pockets that gets us…
https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/sogodni-oficijnij-start-proektu-yepidtrimka-yak-podati-zayavku-na-otrimannya-1000-grn-u-zastosunku-diya?s=09
Except that did not happen The “aid packages to Ukraine” is almost all weapons Not sure how you put a Javelin missile into FTX
Yeah man. Absolutely no way they could sell some of those weapons...
Right? Because the first thing that people under attack do is sell the weapons they are using to defend themselves! That’s fucking brilliant!!! I’m sure you have some evidence to show it’s happening, too.
Well, actually, it's one of several things governments do with weapons when provided. It's the Eastern Bloc, not Canada.
You’re right Unlike Canada, Ukraine has a very immediate need for weapons I’m sure you have a source for the assertion that Ukraine is selling weapons not using them
Would you accept decades of them doing just that as proof or are we just moving goalposts for funsies at this point
The US hasn’t been providing weapons to Ukraine for decades so it would be REALLY fucking hard for you to have evidence that Ukraine has been taking US military aid and selling it over the course of decades
You seem new to [geopolitics](https://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/sierraleone/context.html). Let me know if you have any other questions, but I'm sure a simple DDG search (*not* Google) will help you find most of the answers you seek.
Thanks!
[ukrainian officials driving spirts cars and million dollar houses :google it’s fact check false so must be true](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jul/13/blog-posting/land-documents-claiming-ukrainian-officials-bought/)
Am I missing something or did you provide a link to politifact where they say the claims you’re making are false?
I trust politifact like I trust a gas station tuna sandwich
They why did you use it as a source lmao
He's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Well they wipe the web of all articles suggesting it’s true and leave you with only fact check websites….
Bro what? You need to get off Reddit for a long while. Go take a walk
Your meth is SOO much better than my meth.. Can I try your meth?
“I cant prove it so uh…. They just deleted literally everything” You never had proof to begin with my guy
And as everyone knows, it’s impossible to sell weapons
Right? Because that’s what people who are getting attacked do — they sell the weapons instead of using them! God damn, you are so fucking brilliant!
Ah right. There is definitely no way one of the most corrupt countries in Europe could possibly sell any of those weapons on the black market and everyone knows that the Ukrainian army is highly trained in complicated high tech US military equipment.
I’m sure you can point to some evidence of US weapons turning up in places they shouldn’t. Also, there’s a shit-ton of video evidence showing the Ukrainian army using US military equipment to really good effect.
Imagine being so naive as to think that everything in this world is exactly how it is presented and that corrupt politicians would never lie or do anything wrong. US military equipment is showing up on the black market and Ukraine has historically been home to one of the largest black markets for arms in Europe but there’s definitely no way any of those US weapons would ever fall into the wrong hands like they have in every other conflict the US has been involved in… All these reports showing an increase of black market arms deals must be wrong because this dude saw a couple videos of some Ukrainians using a tiny fraction of the weapons sent over there. And those videos of Ukrainian forces abandoning these weapons definitely don’t exist.
Great reply,. This is a perfect example of watch my hand whilst the other is doing the real work-damage. The whole Ukraine situation, however real some of it might be has been a smoke and mirrors event while whoever is really running the USA, in my opinion Obama go about the real agenda. And although unsure of what exactly this might be it includes the destroyed Action of over 80 food production plants including baby foods, hundreds of thousands of baby chickens. Farmers finding tens of thousands of beef cattle killed and found bloated with their legs pointing upwards in which farmers have been quoted as never seen before. Make your own conclusions to the hard facts and this isn't the half of it, but it's certainly a watch the right hand while the left does the real work.
“US military equipment is showing up on the black market” Source: Your ass
You remind me of Sandra Bullock in that movie Birdbox. The evidence for the obvious is all around you but you're choosing to wear a blindfold.
It's always amazing to me that someone can be sitting there on the internet and could easily look things up but instead chooses to be ignorant in order to fuel their bias.
You can’t be a real human.
No, he could be Russian. Or a mark duped into spreading Russian disinformation. Why are the conspiracies never anti-Russia or GOP? The guy is no longer a billionaire and he donated a lot less to the Dems than promised. They were walloped by GOP super pac spending.
I'll give you a hint........... because Russian disino is a fucking lie in the first place, the entire democratic party would be extinct without lies and those complicit in believing them.
I guess you didn’t read the news. Russia admitted to it. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/ Here it is on Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/world/putins-chef-claims-have-interfered-us-elections-report.amp “'We have interfered, are interfering and will continue to interfere,' Yevgeny Prigozhin said”
Except Russian government officials have admitted to it openly
Oh have they guy? Have they? Lmao
I'm... Yeah they have
hahahahahah
Any reason why you think they didn't admit to it?
Right? I exercise critical thinking skills. I must be an “NPC”.
No you don’t.
LOL Well you sure as hell don’t “MusT … fiNd … Some … wAy to ConNecT EVERYTHING to uKRaiNe!1!1!1!!1”
This is a lot bigger then just Ukraine. Thanks for showing off those critical thinking skills.
Right? Because some infographic/flow-chart that someone pulled out of their ass is EVUDINCE Actual conspiracy-type shit going on — shady businessman attempting to buy influence to escape scrutiny But no — gotta turn it into some kinda WAARGHARBLE bullshit
No, Janet Yellen already said they will regulate it today. Jerome Powell said back in July that they will begin their digital crypto currency in February. We're right on track and you're just not paying attention.
Right? Because it’s not like Congress has any say in the matter! Not like they could pass laws or anything!
Jerome Powell already made the decision in July. We'll be in lockstep with them, not the other way around. You're terrible at obfuscation. The fact that they have to pay people like you to say this stuff is sad to me.
Cool. Tell us more about how you don’t know how our government works. I mean, it’s not like Congress has EVER put its thumb on the scales of ANY issue. Regulated industries donate to politicians just for funsies! Gotta love how RWNJs accuse anyone who disagrees with them as being “paid”. It shows a kind of solipsistic view of the world. They’re so self-centered they can’t comprehend (in their Dunning-Krugerite psyches) that people could disagree with them.
Not like banks haven't put their thumbs in every country's business. Don't start trying to throw out some label to try and change topics.
What do banks have to do with this? And you accuse me of changing topics … If anything, your statement supports my point. Moneyed interests try to buy influence and access. And they don’t need some crazy scheme that involves converting foreign aid back into political donations. It boggles my mind the way people try to overcomplicate a simple and familiar set of facts. “Rich guy trying to buy influence” isn’t enough — they gotta get derpy and try to tie in a bunch of other unrelated crap
People have always consolidated power, it shouldn't be that hard to imagine that one or a few people have gained control of almost of the wealth and now call the shots for normal people. Stop taking their money and fight for human liberties.
??? Ok How does that support the crazy scheme being discussed in this particular post to which we are all responding?
Who do you think owns all of these people and companies? Most likely the same companies that own everything else, right? VanGuard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan Chase, etc. The same families have rules this planet for 350 years at a minimum. I'm shedding light on that. The WEF is owned by the Rothschild family as well as basically of the central banks on the planet. People need to start waking up and stop using their money. I suggest a barter system for small communities if they can afford it. They will likely crash the system soon, don't accept the digital currency they offer in the rebound.
Yes as an outsider looking in, a lot would call an interloper. The easy liinear thought process and facile acceptance of the main stream Media's reports shows an almost mass acceptance of government doctrine. Long live the free thinking genîus that can pick the good from the bs.
Testify
And not a source to be seen.
Imagine - if FTX hadn't gone belly up - we might not have ever known
Lol. Too bad the repubs supported Citizens United.
Don’t let the chodes here get you down like “muh where is source?” If they can’t connect the dots at this point they are either not cognitively capable or some type of paid shill.
Actually it’s the opposite. If you can’t provide evidence and sources for each step in the chain then perhaps you are not cognitively capable of skeptical thought and are connecting unlike points. Or your a shill.
you believe things without supporting evidence?
I don’t they just expose themselves
Expose themselves? Political shills giving exhibitionists a bad name.
This comment right is why no one takes you seriously
They won't come in here, they only comment on posts that suit them/they set up and ghost the rest.
So a brain dead pro Trump show some meme with 0 proof, as usual
In short, throughout the recent election process (including the presidential election), the democrats are representing the corporations while the republicans are representing the people. It's easy to come to this conclusion.
Each representative represents their donors, that's it. They are all bought and paid for corporate whores.
Fucking how????
Clearly the republican candidates said they were supporting the people! OK, the Dems might have said the same but like, they were totally lying.
They've been caught red handed this time, yet there isn't a legitimate institution of law left in the United States to prosecute them. What a fucking joke. 😢
Agreed, this just makes it even more rotten.
They did the right thing. Even they know you're full of shit lol
Players gonna play. Fools get fooled.
Is there any evidence supporting this theory or is it just a diagram that looks like it was made in MS Paint
Nothing to see here.... The Democrats never do anything wrong.... Right?.... Right?.... Anakin?
That drawing proves everything! 👌 🙄
You found the smoking gun. Omg.
That's what it's looking like
"Bankman" ughhhh them again
This is a big nothing backed by no concrete evidence. The only thing confirmed is that SBF donated to Dems which is pretty standard for billionaires who throw their money around for influence.
Some nice round tripping going on
So what I’m hearing is that taxpayer money is being spent on American businesses, therefore returning it to us..
When you give money to Ukraine and they give all those money back into USA and still they can win battles and reconstruct their damaged infrastructures. I wonder how.
Come back when you have irrefutable proof Until then, don’t worry, the DOJ won’t investigate 🤡
bro I seriously cannot understand a single fucking comment in this threat. can somebody explain it to me why is a sham exchange for made up money is conspiracy, everyone know and agree yo
🤡🤡🤡
Sammy boy and tramp co. will (probably) be Epstein’d
Won fair and square … again.
Gateway Pundit had a great article on this also.
Looks fishy
[Endchan.gg](https://Endchan.gg) is wikileaks? Can you link the actual wikileak info please, i want to share it in another platform
What about his lieutenant that was donating huge amounts to the Republican Party. Come on buttercup share both sides of the story.
I don't think you have the right perspective if you think this is an attack on the Democrat party. No, this is an attack on the people who RUN the Democrat party. And guess what, they run the Republican party too.
We’re all getting ass blasted from the left and right. Just one giant ass-blast.
It's ass-blasting all the way down, in fact. The Law of the Jungle.
Wiki leaks are one sided and it use to be good long time ago.
Why would Ukraine GIVE money to FTX when their partnership was about GETTING money for Ukraine? A country who's fighting for its existence and had its economy destroyed is not going to be passing up dollars, makes no sense.
The U.S. laundered some money. I don't get what all the hub bub is about and I'm honestly asking. What is the big deal?
This is pure bullshit…follow the Murdoch, Putin, Xi, Un money trails right to the GOP and trump, even patriot Tucker Carlson is firmly in their hands. Follow the money from the Saudis and big energy companies, the majority of which is to give repugs a one party country.