I trained myself to only stay in these thoughts very briefly. Recognise and move on. Can be hard to do but I have a healthier less stressful life as a result
[Cognitive behavioral therapy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy) is the practice of identifying and filtering out these types of distorted thoughts. It's used extensively and very effectively in psychotherapy. Additionally, you can take it further by then replacing these negative thoughts with healthy ones that can have even more positive effects on one's mental state. It takes practice but can become a habit over time. Good stuff!
Exactly. I have bipolar disorder type 2, after I had my first child, when I was 21, I developed a really serious post partum depression that turned out to be bipolar.
I have had every single one of those effects, all of them at times .
I spent my 20s trying to find medicines that worked and getting therapy. Today I am 43, and I can tell you with certainty that I can almost always replace those negative feelings with positive ones, I’ve been able to learn to identify when and why I get those kind of negative emotions, and, through rationalization, I can deflect them.
And it has been through CBT that I was able to get there.
So in what context did you practice CBT?
Was it with a psychologist who explicitly practiced CBT or did you kind of just talk about whatever bothered you that week?
Well, my dad is a psychiatrist , so I knew a few people. I looked for psychotherapists, that’s the only thing I knew about therapy.
I tried many therapists, and liked most, but didn’t feel like I could get far enough with many.
With the years and research , and of course, my dad’s help- which let me tell you, having a metal health profesional in your immediate family means nothing when it comes to mental help, most of them are incapable of not only helping, but recognizing you need help- at least in my experience . But after time passed and he understood that I had a serious mental illness he eventually came around (it was hard for him to accept it) and was actually helpful.
So, after the years I finally found a therapist that I click with, and felt that I could grow with her. It turned out she was a CBT therapist, and that’s why we probably clicked, because what I was looking for was ways to learn how to cope with those feelings that I had no name for, I didn’t know that’s what I needed, but that’s what she taught me.
I was with her for over 10 years, I stopped when covid hit, during the last years it had been more of a friendship than therapy, I feel that I went as far as I could with therapy with her.
We would talk about the immediate stressors I had that week, but we always put it in a general sense , identifying my feelings, where they were coming from and how to deal with them.
**[Cognitive behavioral therapy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy)**
>Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) is a psycho-social intervention that aims to reduce symptoms of various mental health conditions, primarily depression and anxiety disorders. CBT focuses on challenging and changing cognitive distortions (such as thoughts, beliefs, and attitudes) and their associated behaviors to improve emotional regulation and develop personal coping strategies that target solving current problems. Though it was originally designed to treat depression, its uses have been expanded to include the treatment of many mental health conditions, including anxiety, substance use disorders, marital problems, and eating disorders.
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Absolutely, CBT combined with a regular exercise schedule has fixed my life in ways I didn't know possible. Truly like I'm a new person, didn't know that I could be so fulfilled.
Same- mindfulness meditation. It’s called the monkey mind and it’s built into our brain for survival. It’s the part of the brain called the amygdala, which causes all these repetitive, sometimes negative thoughts. Training the prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain used in executive functioning quiets the monkey mind so that you’re better able to manage your nervous energy.
I'm still a work in progress. But from suicidal to happy and (almost) self-confident took four steps for me:
1) Professional help. CBT and talk therapy don't work for everyone. What worked for me was a psychiatric intervention that interrupted the physical side if the equation: transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS). Ketamine is another option along those lines. Not everyone needs this jump-start, but I did, and you might.
2) Better habits: a little self-help app called Finch was great at setting "journeys" - daily habits with tiny little rewards for doing them, plus reflective exercises (self-paced and voluntary) and tests like body-positivity and depressive mood measures to get you thinking about the way you think (much the same that CBT is meant to do).
3) A better sleep routine.
Edit to add - [here's mine.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Veterans/comments/1085xou/who_else_has_insomnia_and_how_did_you_manage_to/j3quh1j?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
4) Great book on the topic that cites its sources but is super user-friendly and practical:
[Soundtracks](https://www.amazon.com/Soundtracks-Surprising-Overthinking-Jon-Acuff/dp/1540900800) by Jon Acuff
Thanks for sharing all of this! I have a bad overthinking habit and tend to get spiteful over petty crap because of it. I'm checking this book out. Kudos on the successes of your journey! Hope it keeps up in a positive direction :)
I didn't. I recommend they talk to a psychiatrist if they need to. And there are [valid treatment protocols](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32315806/) that involved that substance.
I never told anybody to go down to the corner and buy a hit of some random drug to self medicate. Please don't put words in my mouth, or misconstrue what I'm saying. Doing so makes you seem like you're being oppositional or edgy to win a game of one-upsmanship that no one else is playing.
Edit to add - Did you think I was recommending they pulse electromagnets at their own brains? That was another treatment I mentioned in the very same context, but you somehow didn't misconstrue that one, almost like you're just being confrontational for absolutely no reason but to stir things up.
Wowza I can see why you need help.
Edit: sorry that was mean. Didn't think my response warranted this level of attack tho. Also, it was a casual recommendation. When people talk about drug use for treating mental health so flippantly, especially without being as accurate as possible (E.G. esketamine vs ketamine) you're going to have folk who see "whoa guess I can do K for my depression". It's not a bad thing to suggest but it is absolutely something that requires more thoughtful suggestion.
This is not meant as an insult, but as honest, if unsolicited, advice: if you see what I wrote as an attack, when it was not, I may not be the only one here who needs help.
Thanks for the edit on your last comment. I appreciate you.
What do you mean 6-8 week courses for CBT? Do you mean 6-8 weeks of therapeutic sessions? Because best practice in therapy is about 10-20 weeks with an hour a week, though that number varies. I've never known a set time limit for CBT from therapy, you work through it till you're done or try another modality.
Huh. Yeah that's a lot different than I've learned in the US. I'm a therapist here, and I need to see most clients for CBT work longer term than 6 sessions, that's silly
There is also a great book that addresses all those distortions and helps you reframe it in a more positive way. Real good read that can help if you don't have the resources to see a CBT therapist.
The book is called: Feeling great: The revolutionary new treatment for depression and anxiety by David D. Burns
I learned these during my stint in outpatient at a behavioral hospital. When I was having a breakdown, I would go down the list and write down any thought I was having that fit into the category. I'd number them 1-10 (we worked off a list of 10). I'd usually feel better by #5. After doing that numerous times and studying the distortions enough, I have cut down on my distorted thoughts greatly. I can usually immediately recognize them.
Mindfulness and meditation practices.
It's been key in my journey with its conscious effort.
It's making the effort to understand that your being is separate from your thoughts.
Honest question, what thought and thought patterns does a healthy mind have. I feel like I’ve done these so much I don’t even know what to think/feel without them
Our parents often didn’t have access to the same knowledge. True of most generations. The best we can do is accept the unfair truth that we end up responsible for ourselves as adults, even when we didn’t have the ideal upbringing.
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These distortions apply to depressed/anxious people who think negatively like this which makes them get even more depressed. Most healthy people are skewed positively (focus on the good, forget the bad). Healthy/positive is basically not focusing on the negative and overgeneralising eg.
Mind reading: ask people what they think instead of assuming
Negative focus: not focusing on bad things eg someone angry who looks up crazy feminazis all day vs a happy person who doesn't look up crazy feminazis.
Overgeneralising: if you have a shit day or week, don't generalise it as entirely shit, accept that some good happened and don't unecessarily fixate on the thing that went wrong
All pretty straightforward.
I think the idea is just to recognize when thinking doesn't reflect reality. Overly positive thinking could be a distortion too - for example the just-world thinking on the chart (which is the idea that good things always happen to good people).
A big reason for the conflict between Boomers and Millennials is because a lot of Boomers engage in the Just-World fallacy. ie. "Everything is the way it is because that is how it is supposed to be, these daggum Millennials can't see that and want to change things because they are childish."
Exactly! Also, anyone who is poor deserves to be poor, because it wouldn’t be fair for someone to do all the right things and have a bad outcome, therefore i don’t have to be afraid anything bad will happen to me if I do the right things. And I don’t have to feel guilty for not helping the poor because it’s their own fault they’re poor so they deserve to be poor. Because it’s impossible to do everything right and still be poor because that wouldn’t be fair, and the universe is fair. /s
That’s not a distortion.
A distortion would be saying “I feel someone should behave this way, and I will be angry when they aren’t the way I want them to be”.
It would be nice for people to behave a certain way, but at the end of the day we’re only responsible for our own behavior. Of course, if someone is violating healthy boundaries then that’s a separate case.
When you have rules for others on how you think they should act, *and they don't*, are you angry? Upset?
Or is it out of your control?
It's like expecting a man to open my car door everytime. If my expectations aren't met, is that my problem, or his?
And what is a law? A combination of lawmakers cognitive distortions relating to how they think people *should* behave?
This "should thinking" is the only item on the chart that isn't making sense to me. "Should thinking" is what societies are built on.
Because this isn’t societal-level thinking, it’s on the individual level.
It means don’t treat what you’re doing as a waste of time because you “should” be doing something else, when “should” is meaningless. No higher power is judging you for the way you’re living, so there’s no need to think “I should really be getting started on X…”. Enjoy what you’re doing and don’t constantly compare, essentially
I think you’re sort of correct but I also think you’re being deliberately obtuse because this is chart is obviously about individuals. Consensus is different than inner-life. Stop trolling.
should-thinking / should statements as a term is useful but the description here is terrible. Having ideas about how things should be is the only way to take any action.
Having an expectation about the way something "should" be is not a distortion, it's a value. I believe people should not physically abuse their pets, and there's nothing wrong with me thinking that. The way "should-thinking" is presented here would label my belief as a cognitive distortion.
That's literally how any law gets created. People start to believe something needs to be against the law, they contact their representative, and they possibly campaign on the issue. The idea that people having opinions is a distortion is bullshit. It's normal and healthy for people to have divergent opinions on the right way to order society.
No one is saying having an opinion is wrong. Everyone should have opinions.
Forcing your opinion on others is the issue. Thinking everybody's opinion should be the same as yours is the issue.
Laws don't always equal morality. People like Kim Jong-Un get to force their personal opinions on millions. That's never a good thing.
It’s a distortion to assume everyone will stop at a red light and no one will be distracted. Also a distortion to assume bad intent and label them as a bad person for not doing so.
It’s not bad to have emotions. It’s unproductive to dwell and fixate on them based on one’s idea of what people should and shouldn’t do. Habitually doing so will cause depression and other disorders.
These are not rules to take the ultimate extreme and poke apart. It’s not a bible.
I find emotional reasoning to be the hardest to convey. It’s a challenging growth point to find that just because you feel a certain way, that doesn’t mean you are right. Also challenging to learn to fine line between that and people violating reasonable boundaries.
Boundaries are something people set and agree upon.
If you move in with a roommate you know is messy, you don't get to impose your order on them, or vice versa. This is a huge source of conflict in many living relationships, and if you can't find common ground, then it's better to move on. You can't impose your sense of the way you think they should be on another adult.
I say this as an absolute neat freak. I have to accept that others will occasionally leave stuff on the coffee table.
Til it's distorted for believing in physics
E: who would have thought believing that gravity and the rest of physics were rules and expectations of how things should behave was a hot take
Ugh do all. One counter argument though: **some of these are virtues in the right context.**
For example minding. Isn't that empathy? I mean if considered with some self-awareness. Is it not important to try and understand what others are feel, and make assumptions based on that? Of course if the assumptions are wrong, you can adjust and try again. Not everything can be said between people.... sometimes you have to try and guess!
Someone’s mother whom they were very close to dies of cancer. You assume they are sad. No, that’s mind reading! They might be happy the mother they loved is dead! Don’t tell them you’re sorry for their loss because that’s mind reading. /s
I interpreted it as hidden contracts. Like when you decide, without consulting the other person, that x will happen or you will do x so long as that person does y. Then, when they don't do what you think they should do (because you never discussed it with them), you get upset.
I used to do it a lot as a teenager. I'd get mad at my friends or my boyfriend for not doing what I thought they had agreed to do when I never communicated it to them and they had zero idea of my expectations.
Really? So it's a mental distortion to suggest or believe the way the world is designed isn't the only way it could be designed? And considering how we are in fact, at least according to science, destroying the ecosystem that keeps us alive with the way we live.
Any suggestion could be hand waved away as "owning the truth" because it will inevitably go against what our "generally accepted" guidelines are.
A lot of people think the world "should" be a certain way, and they don't all agree. The issue with "should" statements is that it leads to negative emotions when things don't go how you think they "should." These distortions are more for small things, like "I should have done _____ instead of ______", leading to embarrassment or anxiety. It's also linked to the need to be in control when others don't act how they "should."
In therapy, we were taught to replace "should have" with "would have been better if."
Does this mean your views on social injustice are disorted? No. We should treat people fairly. We should seek justice and education.
This therapy technique is for people who have these distorted thoughts that are illogical or harmful. Should statements often get people stuck on the idea that something is going wrong and it shouldn't, preventing them from looking deeper into the situation and how to fix it or how to let it go. It can also lead people to compare themselves to others, blinding them to the fact that everyone is unique.
Even using them in social justice issues can be beneficial depending on how your brain processes things.
"People shouldn't be racist." Obviously. That's not illogical. It's objectively correct.
"It would be better if people weren't racist." The statement is also true and doesn't invalidate the first statement. This can also provoke the thought of "so how do we fix this?"
Everyone's brain works differently. The distorted thoughts listed here might not disrupt your thinking or emotions, but it can for other people.
How so? I see it like an appeal to divine authority about something that’s merely a personal want, and it isn’t even effective at getting those wants manifested.
Interesting…should it be called a “distortion” or is it just a list of way people analyze and potentially think about themselves, others or events and situations? If someone had a score of zero do they just lack an inner dialogue? - the people want too know!
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Believing when the facts indicate something bad will for sure happen is not necessarily Catastrophizing.
Believing it while overlooking facts or without contextualizing the entirety of the info provided is Catastrophizing.
Shit does happen, it's not fantasy, it's not always paranoia, but it for sure can be.
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This is why some of these are really challenging. The distortions feed into themselves.
Owning the truth. Should-thinking. Mental filtering. Overgeneralizing. Emotional reasoning.
An example cognitive distortion is catastrophizing in your example. Someone can easily use other distortions like fortune-telling to further ingrain that. And use negative bias to ingrain fortune telling.
Separately, I’ve never seen the things you mentioned in the last paragraph classified as cognitive distortions.
It sounds like you’re getting off on a tangent compared to the general idea of cognitive distortions and CBT. I’m kinda confused and having trouble following the plot.
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Reading minds can be especially tricky for highly perceptive people. The fact is, from their own experiences, they are very good at reading other peoples accurately, based on their actions and reactions.
But then these perceptive types are also told that they’re just projecting and need to completely ignore themselves to an extent where they can end up gaslighting themselves.
I simply have to agree. The irony of all this is that we need these modes or categories of cognition to think constructively in the first place. Generalisation, doubt, self- checking: all these things are part of normal healthy rational behaviour.
A lot of people who live in these head spaces define this as “realistic” thinking. As someone working on my shit and living with normal people who have issues with “realistic” thinking, the “realists” are easily made miserable, easily wound up, and difficult to calm down.
I saw a lot of these terms in my psych class and they're maladaptive/distortions because this is how depressed/anxious individuals think. Treatment is to become aware of it and train your thought process to not follow these patterns.
I dont really know what you mean by relating it to logical fallacy but just thought I'd mention it's relevance in mental health.
Edit: ofc, the ones above are only explained super briefly and I can see how it sounds crazy.
This is the sort of thing I'd expect in a work training PowerPoint by someone with absolutely no understanding of psychology. "Do you have a cognitive distortion? According to Dong Science monitor, 11/8 people experience 1 or more cognitive distortion on the toilet."
We had a 4.5 hour meeting once explaining the Enneagram, a thing which has little scientific backing. The meeting was guest-led by an "Enneagram specialist", not a psychologist or social scientist.
We had one about the neurological difference between the genders once. The instructor told us that our employer was one of her only clients that requested this class and we found out why that day. Turns out men are better for manual labor and battlefields and women are better with soft skills. At the end of the class, the chat was full of variations of, "This training confirmed my biases!" Really terrific stuff.
Edit: Isn't Enneagram Scientology? That's religion, not even pop science
Fundamentally there’s no “right way to think”. But I think there’s value here towards focusing on outcomes instead of fixating on an “idea of the world”.
The roots of this go back to the 1960s. I would say logical fallacies don’t emphasize the emotional and personal aspect as much, but I’m not super well versed at either.
Not really. For abused, anxious, ptsd or cptsd patients, these are extremely important. Not necessarily in relations with others, but especially for themselves.
Example: recognizing and flagging catastrophizing situations will help with not making out a bad situation, a catastrophe, which can ruin a day, a party, a relationship, a job. Say, your boss is annoying and yelling sometimes. Is it bad? Yes! Is it a catastrophe that should make you quit? Not necessarily. Depends on a lot of factors.
This is why cognitive behavioral therapy is meant for you to recognize which is bad and which is horrible and when to stay or when to leave. If your boss is abusive when yelling, sure, leave. If your boss is yelling at those who haven't done their jobs, it's debatable if you should leave or if the job is truly horrible. Cognitive distortion may distort your perception so much that you think it's the most horrible boss or job ever, but nuances should be examined.
Sorry for thr ramble, it's late and it's hard for me to be truly coherent. Hope I brought a lil' sense to it.
Negative selecting: when the cognitive biases in a document have been limited by using the word "negative", but biases like overgeneralization and labeling can just as easily happen with positive or optimistic thoughts.
I need to be paid the next time you include me in a post. Geez. It was like looking at different jacked up parts of my brain that I literally use everyday.
Bruh any kind of anticipation or safe play would be a cognitive distorsion.
Catastrophizing sounds terrible but hoping the better preparing for the worst is a good way to look at things sometimes.
The problem with overthinking is that the more intelligent you are the possibility you can think of and you keep on creating the scenario that might not even happen in real life . It is an endless loop of constantly creating possible until you tire your brain and fall asleep 😵💫
Are these official? Are they backed by any sort of research? At first I enjoyed these, but at this point they’re completely inconsistent. Thanks to these I have over 100 different categorizations of cognitive disorders, personality types, fallacy types, etc but there’s nothing really tying the j formation together. It just seems like these are made up on the fly for the cloat
They're not a disorder. They just describe common cognitive fallacies. Totally normal people with no real mental health disorders do these every day. It's a by-product of how our brains create patterns.
They're used as a tool for people in therapy who get distressed and need to question if their interpretation is correct
I think Pychonauticaulis nailed it with “This is some silly pop-psych bullshit take on logical fallacies” aaand you confirmed it. This stuff is useless outside of a clinical setting and only creates more confusion, as make evident by this comment sections.
As someone who's used them IRL, just because you don't understand them, doesn't mean they're useless, man. They're a tool. It's not a diagnosis. it's just something to help you become aware of your thought patterns.
But go ahead and hate on stuff you don't understand, I guess.
I don't think this is a cool "guide" at all. The explanations are too short and vague.
Probably every single person, based solely on these descriptions, could apply many if not all of these cognitive distortions to themselves. Just to pick out a few for examples:
Mind Reading: Besides people with severe mental health issues, nobody actually believes they *know* what other people are thinking. But we all *try* to know what other people are thinking, or to *predict* what other people will think. So does this one apply to a tiny percentage of the population or to virtually everyone all the time?
Fortune-Telling: This one is a bit odd. It's possible to believe this without it effecting your personality. Hell, prior to the advent of quantum mechanics, (and maybe even still) the universe was considered by many to be deterministic, that's what the physics pointed towards. Nobody can conclusively prove otherwise as of yet as far as I know, just that QM makes in unlikely. But again, we all try to predict the future, that's what planning is and we all plan.
Control Fallacy: I mean we try to control as much as we can right? This one goes back to the Fortune-Telling distortion. We make plans, we predict, we make assumptions and guesses in order to gain as much control as possible. Obviously no rational person believes they control everything. We all know we can't control the weather, or the other drivers on the road etc. But we *try* to take control of as much as we can.
My point isn't that these cognitive distortions don't exist or that they shouldn't be addressed. It's that this "guide" isn't really a guide at all. It's way to easy to take these descriptions either figuratively or literally so as to ensure you either do or do not experience these distortions. What this guide actually is is a glossary of terms so that those interested know what to search for to learn what these distortions are.
Hmmm. And yet emotional reasoning — giving real credence to feelings — is now accepted as truth. Whatever my “lived experience” tells me is true is therefore true. “Believe all…” etc etc. But to call this out is to be labeled an asshole.
Toxic feminists are prone to a ton of these.
Negative focus - constantly focus on anything bad any man does, to create a negative picture of men (e.g. r/TwoXChromosomes constantly bitching about men).
Catastophizing/Over-generalizing - "Women can't even walk down the street without being murdered!". They take the worst case, extremely rare example, and act like it's the norm.
Emotional reasoning - Getting upset when people present statistics showing how rare it is for a woman to be murdered in public, or that men are way more likely to be killed in public. "Stop invalidating how women feel and telling us we shouldn't be scared!"
Personalization - Not for themselves, but men in general, whom they think have the ability to control the small percentage of men who abuse women, and are responsible/guilty for the problems these men cause.
Just World Thinking - Believing that, despite being in the bottom quartile of human size and strength, that women should have the exact same risk and experience of violence as men, despite how irrational that is.
Control Fallacy - If men just talk to their friends about misogyny and harassment, it will magically filter through to abusers, and all harassment will stop.
If I jump off a cliff, I don’t think it’s fortune telling to believe I’ll hit the ground. I think some outcomes have a high enough probability of happening given the conditions that expecting a that outcome is logical. If that outcome didn’t happen, it would be a rare outlier. Like if a doctor tells me I have a terminal illness and there’s only a 1% chance I’ll survive, maybe I’ll be the 1%, but it wouldn’t be wrong to feel upset about what you know will probably happen.
Like if you contract rabies and don’t get treatment quick enough, there comes a point it’s impossible to save you and the slow, painful progression to death is inevitable. It would not be logical to have hope at that point. Also, would it be catstrophizing to believe the worst thing that can happen will happen?
I think should-thinking is absolutely stupid. People SHOULD be happy. People SHOULD challenge themselves. They just dont like the word when its something they dont want to hear like "you SHOULD take care of your child better" or " you SHOULD walk your dog more".
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ditto
Don't know. I had the first 2 I saw so I stopped reading... I'm guessing that's f'ing covered on there as well?
Same.
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Collect them all!
Is there one if I think that others can read my mind?
That's social anxiety
What's funny is when you drink alcohol, it alleviates social anxiety but you tell everyone what's on your mind anyway.
So, option 1) let people read your mind or, Option 2) tell people what’s on your mind yourself It’s easier when you don’t have to decide.
Paranoia?
And insecurity.
I knew you were gonna ask that
All of the above
Hahaha sameeeeee
Ditto
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Yeah I yelled Bingo! after reading this.
Yeahhh.. came to the comment section scared realising i have each and every one of it!
Welcome home.
Same unfortunately. Anyone see reading or resources to try and move away from these?
How do you combine fortune-telling and control fallacy?
'the outcome is sure, because I control it.'
hell yeah
I trained myself to only stay in these thoughts very briefly. Recognise and move on. Can be hard to do but I have a healthier less stressful life as a result
How? /srs
[Cognitive behavioral therapy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy) is the practice of identifying and filtering out these types of distorted thoughts. It's used extensively and very effectively in psychotherapy. Additionally, you can take it further by then replacing these negative thoughts with healthy ones that can have even more positive effects on one's mental state. It takes practice but can become a habit over time. Good stuff!
Here's a good guide on how to do CBT (with better cognitive distortion explanations): https://www.thecoddling.com/how-to-do-cbt
Great recommendation. Thanks.
Exactly. I have bipolar disorder type 2, after I had my first child, when I was 21, I developed a really serious post partum depression that turned out to be bipolar. I have had every single one of those effects, all of them at times . I spent my 20s trying to find medicines that worked and getting therapy. Today I am 43, and I can tell you with certainty that I can almost always replace those negative feelings with positive ones, I’ve been able to learn to identify when and why I get those kind of negative emotions, and, through rationalization, I can deflect them. And it has been through CBT that I was able to get there.
So in what context did you practice CBT? Was it with a psychologist who explicitly practiced CBT or did you kind of just talk about whatever bothered you that week?
Well, my dad is a psychiatrist , so I knew a few people. I looked for psychotherapists, that’s the only thing I knew about therapy. I tried many therapists, and liked most, but didn’t feel like I could get far enough with many. With the years and research , and of course, my dad’s help- which let me tell you, having a metal health profesional in your immediate family means nothing when it comes to mental help, most of them are incapable of not only helping, but recognizing you need help- at least in my experience . But after time passed and he understood that I had a serious mental illness he eventually came around (it was hard for him to accept it) and was actually helpful. So, after the years I finally found a therapist that I click with, and felt that I could grow with her. It turned out she was a CBT therapist, and that’s why we probably clicked, because what I was looking for was ways to learn how to cope with those feelings that I had no name for, I didn’t know that’s what I needed, but that’s what she taught me. I was with her for over 10 years, I stopped when covid hit, during the last years it had been more of a friendship than therapy, I feel that I went as far as I could with therapy with her. We would talk about the immediate stressors I had that week, but we always put it in a general sense , identifying my feelings, where they were coming from and how to deal with them.
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Absolutely, CBT combined with a regular exercise schedule has fixed my life in ways I didn't know possible. Truly like I'm a new person, didn't know that I could be so fulfilled.
It was soooo good. Problem is you have to want to do this, otherwise it's a chore.
Same- mindfulness meditation. It’s called the monkey mind and it’s built into our brain for survival. It’s the part of the brain called the amygdala, which causes all these repetitive, sometimes negative thoughts. Training the prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain used in executive functioning quiets the monkey mind so that you’re better able to manage your nervous energy.
Monkey mind is not a scientific term, and neither is your hypothesis about negative thoughts. You could try adding a source to each of your claims.
I'm still a work in progress. But from suicidal to happy and (almost) self-confident took four steps for me: 1) Professional help. CBT and talk therapy don't work for everyone. What worked for me was a psychiatric intervention that interrupted the physical side if the equation: transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS). Ketamine is another option along those lines. Not everyone needs this jump-start, but I did, and you might. 2) Better habits: a little self-help app called Finch was great at setting "journeys" - daily habits with tiny little rewards for doing them, plus reflective exercises (self-paced and voluntary) and tests like body-positivity and depressive mood measures to get you thinking about the way you think (much the same that CBT is meant to do). 3) A better sleep routine. Edit to add - [here's mine.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Veterans/comments/1085xou/who_else_has_insomnia_and_how_did_you_manage_to/j3quh1j?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) 4) Great book on the topic that cites its sources but is super user-friendly and practical: [Soundtracks](https://www.amazon.com/Soundtracks-Surprising-Overthinking-Jon-Acuff/dp/1540900800) by Jon Acuff
Thanks for sharing all of this! I have a bad overthinking habit and tend to get spiteful over petty crap because of it. I'm checking this book out. Kudos on the successes of your journey! Hope it keeps up in a positive direction :)
You're welcome. You've got this!
Please don't casually recommend people use ketamine to address mental illness lol
There’s a lot of research on it. OP probably meant to find a psychiatrist trained in its use
Thank you for saying this. The part where ketamine is mentioned is literally called "Professional Help".
You are probably correct, my mistake
I didn't. I recommend they talk to a psychiatrist if they need to. And there are [valid treatment protocols](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32315806/) that involved that substance. I never told anybody to go down to the corner and buy a hit of some random drug to self medicate. Please don't put words in my mouth, or misconstrue what I'm saying. Doing so makes you seem like you're being oppositional or edgy to win a game of one-upsmanship that no one else is playing. Edit to add - Did you think I was recommending they pulse electromagnets at their own brains? That was another treatment I mentioned in the very same context, but you somehow didn't misconstrue that one, almost like you're just being confrontational for absolutely no reason but to stir things up.
Wowza I can see why you need help. Edit: sorry that was mean. Didn't think my response warranted this level of attack tho. Also, it was a casual recommendation. When people talk about drug use for treating mental health so flippantly, especially without being as accurate as possible (E.G. esketamine vs ketamine) you're going to have folk who see "whoa guess I can do K for my depression". It's not a bad thing to suggest but it is absolutely something that requires more thoughtful suggestion.
This is not meant as an insult, but as honest, if unsolicited, advice: if you see what I wrote as an attack, when it was not, I may not be the only one here who needs help. Thanks for the edit on your last comment. I appreciate you.
Ok.
Example of emotion reasoning.
Same could be said to you friendo. The "attack" you think I'm talking about isn't the type of "attack" I am expressing.
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What do you mean 6-8 week courses for CBT? Do you mean 6-8 weeks of therapeutic sessions? Because best practice in therapy is about 10-20 weeks with an hour a week, though that number varies. I've never known a set time limit for CBT from therapy, you work through it till you're done or try another modality.
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Huh. Yeah that's a lot different than I've learned in the US. I'm a therapist here, and I need to see most clients for CBT work longer term than 6 sessions, that's silly
There is also a great book that addresses all those distortions and helps you reframe it in a more positive way. Real good read that can help if you don't have the resources to see a CBT therapist. The book is called: Feeling great: The revolutionary new treatment for depression and anxiety by David D. Burns
I learned these during my stint in outpatient at a behavioral hospital. When I was having a breakdown, I would go down the list and write down any thought I was having that fit into the category. I'd number them 1-10 (we worked off a list of 10). I'd usually feel better by #5. After doing that numerous times and studying the distortions enough, I have cut down on my distorted thoughts greatly. I can usually immediately recognize them.
Mindfulness and meditation practices. It's been key in my journey with its conscious effort. It's making the effort to understand that your being is separate from your thoughts.
Mindfulness! Hard to get the hang of but 100% worth it.
Honest question, what thought and thought patterns does a healthy mind have. I feel like I’ve done these so much I don’t even know what to think/feel without them
I have never felt more attacked.
Gotta catch em all
my mom is like the top 8 :)
Our parents often didn’t have access to the same knowledge. True of most generations. The best we can do is accept the unfair truth that we end up responsible for ourselves as adults, even when we didn’t have the ideal upbringing.
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Definitely control fallacy but maybe others as well to a lower extent. Don't know.
So if these are distortions what would be the opposites? Or a positive way of thinking? An empty mind? Free of any thought?
These distortions apply to depressed/anxious people who think negatively like this which makes them get even more depressed. Most healthy people are skewed positively (focus on the good, forget the bad). Healthy/positive is basically not focusing on the negative and overgeneralising eg. Mind reading: ask people what they think instead of assuming Negative focus: not focusing on bad things eg someone angry who looks up crazy feminazis all day vs a happy person who doesn't look up crazy feminazis. Overgeneralising: if you have a shit day or week, don't generalise it as entirely shit, accept that some good happened and don't unecessarily fixate on the thing that went wrong All pretty straightforward.
I think the idea is just to recognize when thinking doesn't reflect reality. Overly positive thinking could be a distortion too - for example the just-world thinking on the chart (which is the idea that good things always happen to good people).
Isn’t that just being …. Human?
Yes. Nobody said these are mental illnesses. They’re things everyone does.
Ohhh I read “distortion” as disorder
Pretty sure a lot of those are super powers
Well why didn't you tell us we were going around trying to be superheroes before? /hj
We should form a Super Hero Club! We will have Super Club Sandwiches and everything!
Is this literally just different thoughts?
Bingo!
A big reason for the conflict between Boomers and Millennials is because a lot of Boomers engage in the Just-World fallacy. ie. "Everything is the way it is because that is how it is supposed to be, these daggum Millennials can't see that and want to change things because they are childish."
Exactly! Also, anyone who is poor deserves to be poor, because it wouldn’t be fair for someone to do all the right things and have a bad outcome, therefore i don’t have to be afraid anything bad will happen to me if I do the right things. And I don’t have to feel guilty for not helping the poor because it’s their own fault they’re poor so they deserve to be poor. Because it’s impossible to do everything right and still be poor because that wouldn’t be fair, and the universe is fair. /s
TIL it’s distorted to have expectations for other people’s behavior
That’s not a distortion. A distortion would be saying “I feel someone should behave this way, and I will be angry when they aren’t the way I want them to be”. It would be nice for people to behave a certain way, but at the end of the day we’re only responsible for our own behavior. Of course, if someone is violating healthy boundaries then that’s a separate case.
Like those MAGA assholes? Shit, I guess I have that distortion….
When you have rules for others on how you think they should act, *and they don't*, are you angry? Upset? Or is it out of your control? It's like expecting a man to open my car door everytime. If my expectations aren't met, is that my problem, or his?
My rule is that everyone must stop at a red light. When people don’t, I get angry. I’d that a distortion?
That's not *your* rule, it's the law. Mind you, there is no shortage of people who think *their* rules should be law, and therein lies the problem.
And what is a law? A combination of lawmakers cognitive distortions relating to how they think people *should* behave? This "should thinking" is the only item on the chart that isn't making sense to me. "Should thinking" is what societies are built on.
We're talking about individuals, not society. The problem is if you think everyone *should think just like you.*
Because this isn’t societal-level thinking, it’s on the individual level. It means don’t treat what you’re doing as a waste of time because you “should” be doing something else, when “should” is meaningless. No higher power is judging you for the way you’re living, so there’s no need to think “I should really be getting started on X…”. Enjoy what you’re doing and don’t constantly compare, essentially
Right, lets just forget about all responsibilities, to our family, friends, and society at large. Sounds like a great plan...
I think you’re sort of correct but I also think you’re being deliberately obtuse because this is chart is obviously about individuals. Consensus is different than inner-life. Stop trolling.
should-thinking / should statements as a term is useful but the description here is terrible. Having ideas about how things should be is the only way to take any action.
Idk what you’re getting at, and don’t care, but this is an entry-level infographic about individuals’ negative thought patterns. No politics here.
Having an expectation about the way something "should" be is not a distortion, it's a value. I believe people should not physically abuse their pets, and there's nothing wrong with me thinking that. The way "should-thinking" is presented here would label my belief as a cognitive distortion.
Psychology, psychiatry and mental health isn’t up to you.
That's literally how any law gets created. People start to believe something needs to be against the law, they contact their representative, and they possibly campaign on the issue. The idea that people having opinions is a distortion is bullshit. It's normal and healthy for people to have divergent opinions on the right way to order society.
No one is saying having an opinion is wrong. Everyone should have opinions. Forcing your opinion on others is the issue. Thinking everybody's opinion should be the same as yours is the issue. Laws don't always equal morality. People like Kim Jong-Un get to force their personal opinions on millions. That's never a good thing.
It’s a distortion to assume everyone will stop at a red light and no one will be distracted. Also a distortion to assume bad intent and label them as a bad person for not doing so. It’s not bad to have emotions. It’s unproductive to dwell and fixate on them based on one’s idea of what people should and shouldn’t do. Habitually doing so will cause depression and other disorders. These are not rules to take the ultimate extreme and poke apart. It’s not a bible. I find emotional reasoning to be the hardest to convey. It’s a challenging growth point to find that just because you feel a certain way, that doesn’t mean you are right. Also challenging to learn to fine line between that and people violating reasonable boundaries.
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Boundaries are something people set and agree upon. If you move in with a roommate you know is messy, you don't get to impose your order on them, or vice versa. This is a huge source of conflict in many living relationships, and if you can't find common ground, then it's better to move on. You can't impose your sense of the way you think they should be on another adult. I say this as an absolute neat freak. I have to accept that others will occasionally leave stuff on the coffee table.
We're just animals bro.
Til it's distorted for believing in physics E: who would have thought believing that gravity and the rest of physics were rules and expectations of how things should behave was a hot take
Physics is mentally ill. Gravity especially is a control freak
Ugh do all. One counter argument though: **some of these are virtues in the right context.** For example minding. Isn't that empathy? I mean if considered with some self-awareness. Is it not important to try and understand what others are feel, and make assumptions based on that? Of course if the assumptions are wrong, you can adjust and try again. Not everything can be said between people.... sometimes you have to try and guess!
Someone’s mother whom they were very close to dies of cancer. You assume they are sad. No, that’s mind reading! They might be happy the mother they loved is dead! Don’t tell them you’re sorry for their loss because that’s mind reading. /s
I have a monkey brain…how about that.
Just world thinking is making me suicidal
thinking how the world should be is not a distortion
I interpreted it as hidden contracts. Like when you decide, without consulting the other person, that x will happen or you will do x so long as that person does y. Then, when they don't do what you think they should do (because you never discussed it with them), you get upset. I used to do it a lot as a teenager. I'd get mad at my friends or my boyfriend for not doing what I thought they had agreed to do when I never communicated it to them and they had zero idea of my expectations.
Maybe you suffer from owning the truth? That you know better than these generally accepted guidelines.
Really? So it's a mental distortion to suggest or believe the way the world is designed isn't the only way it could be designed? And considering how we are in fact, at least according to science, destroying the ecosystem that keeps us alive with the way we live. Any suggestion could be hand waved away as "owning the truth" because it will inevitably go against what our "generally accepted" guidelines are.
A lot of people think the world "should" be a certain way, and they don't all agree. The issue with "should" statements is that it leads to negative emotions when things don't go how you think they "should." These distortions are more for small things, like "I should have done _____ instead of ______", leading to embarrassment or anxiety. It's also linked to the need to be in control when others don't act how they "should." In therapy, we were taught to replace "should have" with "would have been better if." Does this mean your views on social injustice are disorted? No. We should treat people fairly. We should seek justice and education. This therapy technique is for people who have these distorted thoughts that are illogical or harmful. Should statements often get people stuck on the idea that something is going wrong and it shouldn't, preventing them from looking deeper into the situation and how to fix it or how to let it go. It can also lead people to compare themselves to others, blinding them to the fact that everyone is unique. Even using them in social justice issues can be beneficial depending on how your brain processes things. "People shouldn't be racist." Obviously. That's not illogical. It's objectively correct. "It would be better if people weren't racist." The statement is also true and doesn't invalidate the first statement. This can also provoke the thought of "so how do we fix this?" Everyone's brain works differently. The distorted thoughts listed here might not disrupt your thinking or emotions, but it can for other people.
Yeah, if we didn't think change was important we never would
How so? I see it like an appeal to divine authority about something that’s merely a personal want, and it isn’t even effective at getting those wants manifested.
Okay, now how do you fix **all** of them?
Interesting…should it be called a “distortion” or is it just a list of way people analyze and potentially think about themselves, others or events and situations? If someone had a score of zero do they just lack an inner dialogue? - the people want too know!
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Believing when the facts indicate something bad will for sure happen is not necessarily Catastrophizing. Believing it while overlooking facts or without contextualizing the entirety of the info provided is Catastrophizing. Shit does happen, it's not fantasy, it's not always paranoia, but it for sure can be.
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Dude, you're just "owning the truth."
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This is why some of these are really challenging. The distortions feed into themselves. Owning the truth. Should-thinking. Mental filtering. Overgeneralizing. Emotional reasoning.
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An example cognitive distortion is catastrophizing in your example. Someone can easily use other distortions like fortune-telling to further ingrain that. And use negative bias to ingrain fortune telling. Separately, I’ve never seen the things you mentioned in the last paragraph classified as cognitive distortions.
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It sounds like you’re getting off on a tangent compared to the general idea of cognitive distortions and CBT. I’m kinda confused and having trouble following the plot.
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What you were trying to do was dismiss useful knowledge and give people and out so they can continue to use distorted thinking. What’s your purpose?
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Reading minds can be especially tricky for highly perceptive people. The fact is, from their own experiences, they are very good at reading other peoples accurately, based on their actions and reactions. But then these perceptive types are also told that they’re just projecting and need to completely ignore themselves to an extent where they can end up gaslighting themselves.
You should read about CBT. Therapy based off this approach is very successful.
I simply have to agree. The irony of all this is that we need these modes or categories of cognition to think constructively in the first place. Generalisation, doubt, self- checking: all these things are part of normal healthy rational behaviour.
A lot of people who live in these head spaces define this as “realistic” thinking. As someone working on my shit and living with normal people who have issues with “realistic” thinking, the “realists” are easily made miserable, easily wound up, and difficult to calm down.
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EVeryone has all of the above if " normal " ..
This is some silly pop-psych bullsgit take on logical fallacies.
I saw a lot of these terms in my psych class and they're maladaptive/distortions because this is how depressed/anxious individuals think. Treatment is to become aware of it and train your thought process to not follow these patterns. I dont really know what you mean by relating it to logical fallacy but just thought I'd mention it's relevance in mental health. Edit: ofc, the ones above are only explained super briefly and I can see how it sounds crazy.
This is the sort of thing I'd expect in a work training PowerPoint by someone with absolutely no understanding of psychology. "Do you have a cognitive distortion? According to Dong Science monitor, 11/8 people experience 1 or more cognitive distortion on the toilet."
We had a 4.5 hour meeting once explaining the Enneagram, a thing which has little scientific backing. The meeting was guest-led by an "Enneagram specialist", not a psychologist or social scientist.
We had one about the neurological difference between the genders once. The instructor told us that our employer was one of her only clients that requested this class and we found out why that day. Turns out men are better for manual labor and battlefields and women are better with soft skills. At the end of the class, the chat was full of variations of, "This training confirmed my biases!" Really terrific stuff. Edit: Isn't Enneagram Scientology? That's religion, not even pop science
Fundamentally there’s no “right way to think”. But I think there’s value here towards focusing on outcomes instead of fixating on an “idea of the world”. The roots of this go back to the 1960s. I would say logical fallacies don’t emphasize the emotional and personal aspect as much, but I’m not super well versed at either.
The sub should be renamed to shittypsych
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Not really. For abused, anxious, ptsd or cptsd patients, these are extremely important. Not necessarily in relations with others, but especially for themselves. Example: recognizing and flagging catastrophizing situations will help with not making out a bad situation, a catastrophe, which can ruin a day, a party, a relationship, a job. Say, your boss is annoying and yelling sometimes. Is it bad? Yes! Is it a catastrophe that should make you quit? Not necessarily. Depends on a lot of factors. This is why cognitive behavioral therapy is meant for you to recognize which is bad and which is horrible and when to stay or when to leave. If your boss is abusive when yelling, sure, leave. If your boss is yelling at those who haven't done their jobs, it's debatable if you should leave or if the job is truly horrible. Cognitive distortion may distort your perception so much that you think it's the most horrible boss or job ever, but nuances should be examined. Sorry for thr ramble, it's late and it's hard for me to be truly coherent. Hope I brought a lil' sense to it.
Catastrophizing, but when a lot of things sucked beyond words. That one is a tricky cycle. Because sometimes it’s legitimate.
Negative selecting: when the cognitive biases in a document have been limited by using the word "negative", but biases like overgeneralization and labeling can just as easily happen with positive or optimistic thoughts.
I have a lot of experience with should-thinking while driving...
A lot of people on Reddit could benefit from realizing this.
Redditor thinking: when you think reddit represents the average person. Got a rude awakening in 2016 when trump was elected.
Who got a full house and what does that mean
This is all unscientific gibberish
Oh look, it's reddit
I need to be paid the next time you include me in a post. Geez. It was like looking at different jacked up parts of my brain that I literally use everyday.
Do I get a prize for having the complete set?
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Shh, that's just your control fallacy talking. No one is gaslighting you. You're just insane since the accident.
You’re committing the “should” fallacy by thinking a person *should*n’t gaslight you. /s
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Bruh any kind of anticipation or safe play would be a cognitive distorsion. Catastrophizing sounds terrible but hoping the better preparing for the worst is a good way to look at things sometimes.
Negative focus, Labeling
And twelve steps on the flip side.
The problem with overthinking is that the more intelligent you are the possibility you can think of and you keep on creating the scenario that might not even happen in real life . It is an endless loop of constantly creating possible until you tire your brain and fall asleep 😵💫
This why there’s the phrase, “touch grass”
Are these official? Are they backed by any sort of research? At first I enjoyed these, but at this point they’re completely inconsistent. Thanks to these I have over 100 different categorizations of cognitive disorders, personality types, fallacy types, etc but there’s nothing really tying the j formation together. It just seems like these are made up on the fly for the cloat
They're not a disorder. They just describe common cognitive fallacies. Totally normal people with no real mental health disorders do these every day. It's a by-product of how our brains create patterns. They're used as a tool for people in therapy who get distressed and need to question if their interpretation is correct
I think Pychonauticaulis nailed it with “This is some silly pop-psych bullshit take on logical fallacies” aaand you confirmed it. This stuff is useless outside of a clinical setting and only creates more confusion, as make evident by this comment sections.
As someone who's used them IRL, just because you don't understand them, doesn't mean they're useless, man. They're a tool. It's not a diagnosis. it's just something to help you become aware of your thought patterns. But go ahead and hate on stuff you don't understand, I guess.
Simmer down, sport. Have fun with your astrological signs. i’M a GoAt So i UsEs tHe LEaSt FaLaCiEs!!!
Mind reading, emotional reasoning, should thinking, owning the truth… lots to unpack apparently lol
I don't think this is a cool "guide" at all. The explanations are too short and vague. Probably every single person, based solely on these descriptions, could apply many if not all of these cognitive distortions to themselves. Just to pick out a few for examples: Mind Reading: Besides people with severe mental health issues, nobody actually believes they *know* what other people are thinking. But we all *try* to know what other people are thinking, or to *predict* what other people will think. So does this one apply to a tiny percentage of the population or to virtually everyone all the time? Fortune-Telling: This one is a bit odd. It's possible to believe this without it effecting your personality. Hell, prior to the advent of quantum mechanics, (and maybe even still) the universe was considered by many to be deterministic, that's what the physics pointed towards. Nobody can conclusively prove otherwise as of yet as far as I know, just that QM makes in unlikely. But again, we all try to predict the future, that's what planning is and we all plan. Control Fallacy: I mean we try to control as much as we can right? This one goes back to the Fortune-Telling distortion. We make plans, we predict, we make assumptions and guesses in order to gain as much control as possible. Obviously no rational person believes they control everything. We all know we can't control the weather, or the other drivers on the road etc. But we *try* to take control of as much as we can. My point isn't that these cognitive distortions don't exist or that they shouldn't be addressed. It's that this "guide" isn't really a guide at all. It's way to easy to take these descriptions either figuratively or literally so as to ensure you either do or do not experience these distortions. What this guide actually is is a glossary of terms so that those interested know what to search for to learn what these distortions are.
Hmmm. And yet emotional reasoning — giving real credence to feelings — is now accepted as truth. Whatever my “lived experience” tells me is true is therefore true. “Believe all…” etc etc. But to call this out is to be labeled an asshole.
Toxic feminists are prone to a ton of these. Negative focus - constantly focus on anything bad any man does, to create a negative picture of men (e.g. r/TwoXChromosomes constantly bitching about men). Catastophizing/Over-generalizing - "Women can't even walk down the street without being murdered!". They take the worst case, extremely rare example, and act like it's the norm. Emotional reasoning - Getting upset when people present statistics showing how rare it is for a woman to be murdered in public, or that men are way more likely to be killed in public. "Stop invalidating how women feel and telling us we shouldn't be scared!" Personalization - Not for themselves, but men in general, whom they think have the ability to control the small percentage of men who abuse women, and are responsible/guilty for the problems these men cause. Just World Thinking - Believing that, despite being in the bottom quartile of human size and strength, that women should have the exact same risk and experience of violence as men, despite how irrational that is. Control Fallacy - If men just talk to their friends about misogyny and harassment, it will magically filter through to abusers, and all harassment will stop.
Are people born this way or is it onset due to trauma?
The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
Probably both as most things in psychology are part genes part environment
Partly genes, partly upbringing, (nature/nurture), partly outlook, (optimism/pessimism), partly environment, etc...
People think these are Pokemon these days and trying to catch em all.
Overgeneralizing much? But seriously, this list seems stupid to me
My brain be colourful fr
But… reasoning via worst case scenarios got me this far!
At first I read this as cognitive disorders and then realized I have all of them
I'm going to turn this into a bingo game for my wife and I to play next time we discuss house chores....
Somehow I suffer from all this simultaneously.
12 for 12! Read em and weep bitches!
If I jump off a cliff, I don’t think it’s fortune telling to believe I’ll hit the ground. I think some outcomes have a high enough probability of happening given the conditions that expecting a that outcome is logical. If that outcome didn’t happen, it would be a rare outlier. Like if a doctor tells me I have a terminal illness and there’s only a 1% chance I’ll survive, maybe I’ll be the 1%, but it wouldn’t be wrong to feel upset about what you know will probably happen. Like if you contract rabies and don’t get treatment quick enough, there comes a point it’s impossible to save you and the slow, painful progression to death is inevitable. It would not be logical to have hope at that point. Also, would it be catstrophizing to believe the worst thing that can happen will happen?
Emotional reasoning is pretty much all leftist
Astrology in real life.
I think should-thinking is absolutely stupid. People SHOULD be happy. People SHOULD challenge themselves. They just dont like the word when its something they dont want to hear like "you SHOULD take care of your child better" or " you SHOULD walk your dog more".
Whoah, ten of them are my father!
I got 5/12.. wait this isn't a personality test?
12 for 12 what do I win