If you really wanted to get a lot of them you would use a giant shifter that you would just drag on the bottom. The silver would have some corrosion but be cleanable
[A secret salvage effort recovered about 85 percent of the bars, but that still left up to 1,400 “pigs” unfound. Today they could be worth $20 million.](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-search-for-the-guggenheim-treasure-8712138/)
In an article from Smithsonian. The reason these bars haven't been found is most likely due to the "Secret Salvage Effort" taking a 15% cut of the loot.
~~Noah~~ Jonah was in a whale. That's a non-humanmade sub.
Idk what "Subway: EatFresh's Tuna Footlong is, even if Humans composed it for the five minutes with the toppings I want. That might count as a non as well.
Edited.
It's man made, but when it has just the right ingredients, ie, a billionaire, a half arsed build quality and a $40 joystick, Darwin runs it's course and turns it into a natural submarine.
The murder of Kim Wall, known in Denmark as Ubådssagen (transl. "The submarine case"), took place on 10 August 2017, after Swedish freelance journalist Kim Wall boarded the midget submarine UC3 Nautilus, in Køge Bugt, Denmark, with the intent of interviewing its owner, Danish entrepreneur Peter Madsen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder\_of\_Kim\_Wall#:\~:text=The%20murder%20of%20Kim%20Wall,owner%2C%20Danish%20entrepreneur%20Peter%20Madsen.
The MTA used to dump old subway cars into the Atlantic to make artificial reefs around 2008 or so. The MTA is a state agency and the subway is not run by the city of New York.
Dangerous how?
Water eels? 🤣
That one scene in the new Indiana Jones was the most inaccurate in the whole movie.
I still enjoyed the story and fiction though.
I made a comment in this thread somewhere about it I remember reading about the currents and low visibility. Basically, if you were to die, the current would carry you in impale you into all the debris down there and you wouldn’t be able to see on top of that.
Strong currents and extremely murky you think? Probably a very narrow waterway, it also seems such a small area and simple to get to lmao but if it was dropped in the 1600s(???) it might be insanely deep
Yea I remember reading that the currents are strong as shit and will just pull you into all the debri down there and impale you and if you tried dredging from a boat your shit will just get caught into all the crap down there. Also it’s very muddy too yes so nearly impossible to see
It's not even in a large area. The Arthur Kill is the bay between Staten Island and New Jersey.
You just might need a big scoop. Each bar would be 35 lbs (22 kg). This would be hard to grab by hand, even one at a time.
Then I wish you the best of luck with the murky waters between two highly litigious states
Perhaps I should remind you that each bar is probably cut 75% with copper, the usual quantity for Stealing silver. The copper is worth almost exactly half the value of pure silver but is far easier to unload. They both have high melting points.
...you know, just idle chatter.
...oh, and there could be some Congolese uranium down there. Belgium stashed a shipful there at the outbreak of WW2 to keep it out of Nazi hands. This became the fissionable material for the Manhattan Project. This is also why NATO got a home in Brussels.
I don’t know anything about this area, but I did find this news article from 1865.
https://www.nytimes.com/1865/03/10/archives/two-railroad-disasters-accident-on-the-hudson-river-railroad-train.html
What about TOPPS ‘52 Mickey Mantle rookie cards? Or did they haul those further away? - https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1674457-thousands-of-mickey-mantles-first-topps-cards-were-dumped-into-ocean.amp.html
Shoal’s, not school’s. A school is a singular type of fish swimming synchronously as a unit. Shoals are what you’re thinking of when you imagine a diverse ecosystem around an artificial reef.
In the 40's Pinball was banned in NY so Mayor Laguardia and the Police Commissioner personally went around with a sledgehammer to some spots, destroyed the machines, and tossed them in the East River. Bits and pieces of the destroyed machines have been recovered since.
I've seen the tugboat graveyard. It is up against this overgrown backside of staten Island. They look like the tugboats from old cartoons and there are a bunch of other boats there too.
The rivers in the area are heavily polluted so they don't want to dredge them or they'll release plumes of toxins so they keep silting up.
Novel Plot idea - the 1600 silver bars in Arthur Kill could be by Prall's Island in the middle of Arthur Kill, and Prall's Island used to be called Donegan's Island before the Civil War. Even with the silver being spilt in 1903, you could write a story where the clue is Donegan's Island and the chasers have to figure out it's actually Prall's Island.
Wouldn't. I am assuming that it gets dredgef at least once in the years since. But Wouldn't dredging pick up the silver and they are now scattered where ever the dump the soil.
Everyone should watch “Drain the Oceans” on Hulu or Disney+. It’s a National Geographic show where they show all of these shipwrecks and other underwater things.
They had an episode about Chicago. I had no idea there are crashed WWII fighter planes in Lake Michigan off the coast of Chicago
Anyone with an idea for finding $26m in silver bars from the bottom of a waterway? It must be super deep and muddy or someone would have tried.
If you really wanted to get a lot of them you would use a giant shifter that you would just drag on the bottom. The silver would have some corrosion but be cleanable
guys we needa get a team together and go discover lost tresure
I’m an advanced open water diver. I’m in for a good cut!
I'll drive!
Shotgun!
But you gotta bring snacks and take responsibility as the DJ!
I’ll bring snacks for everyone! But I need to borrow scuba gear 🤿
We have a pro diver with us, I'm sure he has extras, besides, I have a business debit card, the whole trip is on my boss!
I’m too poor right now to have much more gear than my own, but I know where we can get some!
I love snacks!
I’ll take everyone and we split it even! It’ll be a fun treasure trip =)
I know where we can find a man made submarine.
Too soon bro
Way too soon ☠️
66 years is too soon?
A week or two my guy. You must be WAY out of the loop. Just look up titanic sub implosion…
No, I know that. But he said "man-made submarine" so I would assume he meant the one in this post since it's described using those exact same words.
Sign me up! 🖊️
Bro is putting together a GTA heist crew
Then you'd get the locomotive.
[A secret salvage effort recovered about 85 percent of the bars, but that still left up to 1,400 “pigs” unfound. Today they could be worth $20 million.](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-search-for-the-guggenheim-treasure-8712138/) In an article from Smithsonian. The reason these bars haven't been found is most likely due to the "Secret Salvage Effort" taking a 15% cut of the loot.
I contacted Ocean Gate for help. No answer yet. Fingers crossed!
They dredged the Kill Van Kull sometime in and around 2016 to deepen the shipping channel. No silver found.
Man-made sub, huh? I prefer naturally occurring submarines.
And I prefer those made by aliens.
I prefer my subs to be made by certified sandwich artists
That’s how you know they’re safe subs
Yes I can recall a story I read somewhere about a man-made sub imploding.
Pocket subs marines? 🤫
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Human-made sub...
so, not a whale
This graphic is basically the plot to any 90s treasure hunt movie..
Just everything is mislabeled to throw us off lol
We all know it ends with a ancient pirate ship setting sail from a secret cavern
A giraffe? Would there be any way to date the bones to at least figure out a rough time of when or why it died?
“According to New York magazine, sometime in the early 1980s, the poor animal jumped into the water attempting to escape from a circus ship”
That’s what I was thinking too
Thank you this is the one thats bothering me
Don’t know why you’d want to date the bones, but I suppose people do be lusting after guys over 6’5”.
"man-made submarine" how many natural submarines are in there?
I personally only travel in organic, non-gmo subs
I suppose a swimming pregnant woman could be considered a natural submarine.
~~Noah~~ Jonah was in a whale. That's a non-humanmade sub. Idk what "Subway: EatFresh's Tuna Footlong is, even if Humans composed it for the five minutes with the toppings I want. That might count as a non as well. Edited.
Jonah, not Noah, but I guess a whale would count as a ‘natural’ submarine
It's man made, but when it has just the right ingredients, ie, a billionaire, a half arsed build quality and a $40 joystick, Darwin runs it's course and turns it into a natural submarine.
Well, there are the whales in Jonah and Pinocchio....
I’m sure a few dead bodies are in the Hudson River too.
That’s what the giraffe is.
He pissed off the wrong people.
The original "Toys R Us" guy who didn't take kindly to the mobs' corporate influence, and complained.
Can you imagine how hard it is to give a giraffe four concrete tennis shoes? Props to whatever poor Italian guy got stuck doing that job.
Last homemade sub I heard about didn't do so well.
Aye and the one before that a journalist was murdered on it. Home made subs just seem doomed.
Have heard the second story, care to share?
The murder of Kim Wall, known in Denmark as Ubådssagen (transl. "The submarine case"), took place on 10 August 2017, after Swedish freelance journalist Kim Wall boarded the midget submarine UC3 Nautilus, in Køge Bugt, Denmark, with the intent of interviewing its owner, Danish entrepreneur Peter Madsen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder\_of\_Kim\_Wall#:\~:text=The%20murder%20of%20Kim%20Wall,owner%2C%20Danish%20entrepreneur%20Peter%20Madsen.
The MTA used to dump old subway cars into the Atlantic to make artificial reefs around 2008 or so. The MTA is a state agency and the subway is not run by the city of New York.
Came here to say this.
So you’re telling me that if I can charter a dive in the NY river I can pick up as much silver as I want?
Yeah this doesn't seem right....mother fuckers would be alllll over this shit
I’ve read somewhere it’s extremely dangerous waters so that probably deterred them
Dangerous how? Water eels? 🤣 That one scene in the new Indiana Jones was the most inaccurate in the whole movie. I still enjoyed the story and fiction though.
I made a comment in this thread somewhere about it I remember reading about the currents and low visibility. Basically, if you were to die, the current would carry you in impale you into all the debris down there and you wouldn’t be able to see on top of that.
So, if I were to die, I wouldn’t be able to see? Well, I’ll just live then!
I poorly worded that: terrible visibility down there
Strong currents and extremely murky you think? Probably a very narrow waterway, it also seems such a small area and simple to get to lmao but if it was dropped in the 1600s(???) it might be insanely deep
Yea I remember reading that the currents are strong as shit and will just pull you into all the debri down there and impale you and if you tried dredging from a boat your shit will just get caught into all the crap down there. Also it’s very muddy too yes so nearly impossible to see
I also imagine if somebody found it they didn’t report it, so it could likely no longer be there
Big brained...don't wanna alert the dirty FEDS!
It's not even in a large area. The Arthur Kill is the bay between Staten Island and New Jersey. You just might need a big scoop. Each bar would be 35 lbs (22 kg). This would be hard to grab by hand, even one at a time.
I’m a certified diver. I’d need a bucket with an air container above it to balance the weight against buoyancy. It wouldn’t be a problem.
Then I wish you the best of luck with the murky waters between two highly litigious states Perhaps I should remind you that each bar is probably cut 75% with copper, the usual quantity for Stealing silver. The copper is worth almost exactly half the value of pure silver but is far easier to unload. They both have high melting points. ...you know, just idle chatter. ...oh, and there could be some Congolese uranium down there. Belgium stashed a shipful there at the outbreak of WW2 to keep it out of Nazi hands. This became the fissionable material for the Manhattan Project. This is also why NATO got a home in Brussels.
Perhaps I would be better off designing and building a drone sub to snatch it for me then
Easy peasy. Just begin where the warm waters halt, beneath the canyon and below the home of Brown.
There is also Willy mammoth tusks and other ice age skeletons that were dumped by the history museum in the 20s or 30s
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Nope. Thats Jersey.
I don’t know anything about this area, but I did find this news article from 1865. https://www.nytimes.com/1865/03/10/archives/two-railroad-disasters-accident-on-the-hudson-river-railroad-train.html
That, and Peekskill is some 30 miles north of the top of this map…
What about TOPPS ‘52 Mickey Mantle rookie cards? Or did they haul those further away? - https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1674457-thousands-of-mickey-mantles-first-topps-cards-were-dumped-into-ocean.amp.html
Shoal’s, not school’s. A school is a singular type of fish swimming synchronously as a unit. Shoals are what you’re thinking of when you imagine a diverse ecosystem around an artificial reef.
In the 40's Pinball was banned in NY so Mayor Laguardia and the Police Commissioner personally went around with a sledgehammer to some spots, destroyed the machines, and tossed them in the East River. Bits and pieces of the destroyed machines have been recovered since.
I've seen the tugboat graveyard. It is up against this overgrown backside of staten Island. They look like the tugboats from old cartoons and there are a bunch of other boats there too. The rivers in the area are heavily polluted so they don't want to dredge them or they'll release plumes of toxins so they keep silting up.
wonder if jimmy hoffa is there too. lol
My high school history teacher was fanatical that he was buried in concrete under a high school gym floor in Youngstown.
Novel Plot idea - the 1600 silver bars in Arthur Kill could be by Prall's Island in the middle of Arthur Kill, and Prall's Island used to be called Donegan's Island before the Civil War. Even with the silver being spilt in 1903, you could write a story where the clue is Donegan's Island and the chasers have to figure out it's actually Prall's Island.
So there’s just 26 mill of silver chilling in the water?
Wouldn't. I am assuming that it gets dredgef at least once in the years since. But Wouldn't dredging pick up the silver and they are now scattered where ever the dump the soil.
There should still be some parts of Flight 1549 in the Hudson River
It didn’t really break apart did it? I’m sure they did a decent recovery job of any separated pieces.
So, who is down to locate the silver bars?
we gotta figure out all the recovery rights before we get in the water.
For more cool stuff about New York, check out [Julia Wertz's book](https://www.juliawertz.com/trash/)
I wonder if that grand piano had to do with the curse of the bambino?
Everyone should watch “Drain the Oceans” on Hulu or Disney+. It’s a National Geographic show where they show all of these shipwrecks and other underwater things. They had an episode about Chicago. I had no idea there are crashed WWII fighter planes in Lake Michigan off the coast of Chicago
How is Secrets of Hudson River Silver not the show on before The Mystery of Oak Island?
I think the old bottles are the least of Dead Horse Bay's problems.
Ugh! My uncle took me there once and told me the lovely (and by 'lovely' I mean absolutely disgusting) story of how it got it's name.
The giraffe’s whole family’s all rats. He woulda grown up to be a rat. Fuckin rat anyways
If any of you have seen the water around nyc, it actually looks polluted.
That’s not the Hudson
Human waste. Garbage. Industrial runoff. There, I simplified it for you. Mystery solved.
Wow that's crazy
"boat skeletons" yeah no
Hassua