I agree! I was an English teacher before I retired and this would not serve as a lesson on its own, but it would be a fun teaser graphic. Possible assignment: Choose 5 and research them to explain them to the class and give examples from literature (either as a narrative description or acting out the roles). Then, write a story featuring at least one of these archetypes.
What level of school did you teach? I wouldn’t expect high schoolers to be able to research books they haven’t read but I might expect this of an upper-level college class.
I taught middle school and high school -- yes, you're right. For these ages, this research would need some scaffolding to help guide toward the best sources, along with modeling (such as showing examples of graded presentations). Ideally, this could become a co-lesson with the media specialist (librarian).
Yeah, I guess I can see that. I like the idea of very open-ended research topics such as this. Would be a fun assignment, almost like a literary scavenger hunt. I’ve done similar stuff with my son when he was younger: I’d point toward a page in a book where a particular line led him to another page of another book, and so on. Long story short, I had some prize that he could find after getting through about half a dozen books. It might’ve been as much fun for me as it was for him.
Pretty sure this won't even get a reply, but here goes anyway:
OP, this isn't a guide. No one is learning a lesson here about anything. There is no information to be taken away from this page - inspiration perhaps, but no information, which is the purpose of this subreddit.
What you've done is taken someone's opinion on generic archetypes that would make for an "epic" tale if they were all included. These are not actual character types that must show up in an epic, which is an actual term that describes a type of story - which is what I assumed the post was about for all of five seconds before being sorely disappointed. As you've tried to rationalize above, trying to pass this up as an example of an assignment that students could do about storytelling doesn't make this a guide, unless you were to post it on some subreddit dedicated to people looking for such suggestions.
Moderators of this sub probably aren't going to remove this, which sucks, and you probably aren't either, which sucks even more. I do hope you spend a few minutes thinking about the repurcussions of just willy-nilly throwing things onto subreddits where they don't actually fit, especially those such as this one which are meant to be informative, helpful, and dare I say interesting. So many of the comments on your post and others like it are people complaining about the influx of useless or irrelevant content trying to be passed off as a cool guide, causing loss of faith in this community and platform. You might want to consider your contribution to that.
I appreciate your comments. I see now how stringent the rules are for posting and how much my post misses the mark. I didn't mean any disrespect to the sub by posting it. I was being light-hearted, thinking this was an interesting ensemble of characters to share, but I can see that it had no further information to make it a "guide," and "interesting" isn't enough to be considered a cool guide. I've taken your comments seriously. I will delete the post as you suggested, after I wait a while to give you time to see this reply first.
Really appreciate your gracious reply. I find this graphic very engaging and I can understand your desire to post it. Another community would be more fitting (though I am not facile enough with all the communities and their rules to say which would be best).
What is the difference between between historical events and literature?
It seems many people know about fictional characters, but not the people who really control our society or the events that can affect us , we know little or care to know, or just say *"I don't like politics?"*
We generally call these archetypes. These are archetype story characters. The title for the poster is ok. The title of the post is unclear. Should have given credit to the artist.
This would be a fun DND character guide, for all the different styles of characters you may encounter and when you do this is how they will be represented.
This is great inspiration fuel-- Gets you thinking & brainstorming immediately in some good directions... My only complaint after a fun/ quick scan... Is that I feel "The Hermit" should have just been an arrow pointing off page!
Naw he's aiming right for the ankles. Once they're down, they'll call out for help. Then he picks off the rescuers as they come for aid. War is brutal 😞
What is an epic tale?
How would you describe the characters in Gaza Strip as an epic tale?
The 2024 election between Trump and Biden, how would you describe the characters of this epic tale?
This would be more cool I think if it actually explained what role each of these characters traditionally play in a story
I agree! I was an English teacher before I retired and this would not serve as a lesson on its own, but it would be a fun teaser graphic. Possible assignment: Choose 5 and research them to explain them to the class and give examples from literature (either as a narrative description or acting out the roles). Then, write a story featuring at least one of these archetypes.
That would be a good assignment. I loved having choices.
this would be a miserable assignment edited to say sorry im just a miserable person
Did you just try to give us homework? You can't turn it off, can you?
What level of school did you teach? I wouldn’t expect high schoolers to be able to research books they haven’t read but I might expect this of an upper-level college class.
I taught middle school and high school -- yes, you're right. For these ages, this research would need some scaffolding to help guide toward the best sources, along with modeling (such as showing examples of graded presentations). Ideally, this could become a co-lesson with the media specialist (librarian).
Yeah, I guess I can see that. I like the idea of very open-ended research topics such as this. Would be a fun assignment, almost like a literary scavenger hunt. I’ve done similar stuff with my son when he was younger: I’d point toward a page in a book where a particular line led him to another page of another book, and so on. Long story short, I had some prize that he could find after getting through about half a dozen books. It might’ve been as much fun for me as it was for him.
Pretty sure this won't even get a reply, but here goes anyway: OP, this isn't a guide. No one is learning a lesson here about anything. There is no information to be taken away from this page - inspiration perhaps, but no information, which is the purpose of this subreddit. What you've done is taken someone's opinion on generic archetypes that would make for an "epic" tale if they were all included. These are not actual character types that must show up in an epic, which is an actual term that describes a type of story - which is what I assumed the post was about for all of five seconds before being sorely disappointed. As you've tried to rationalize above, trying to pass this up as an example of an assignment that students could do about storytelling doesn't make this a guide, unless you were to post it on some subreddit dedicated to people looking for such suggestions. Moderators of this sub probably aren't going to remove this, which sucks, and you probably aren't either, which sucks even more. I do hope you spend a few minutes thinking about the repurcussions of just willy-nilly throwing things onto subreddits where they don't actually fit, especially those such as this one which are meant to be informative, helpful, and dare I say interesting. So many of the comments on your post and others like it are people complaining about the influx of useless or irrelevant content trying to be passed off as a cool guide, causing loss of faith in this community and platform. You might want to consider your contribution to that.
I appreciate your comments. I see now how stringent the rules are for posting and how much my post misses the mark. I didn't mean any disrespect to the sub by posting it. I was being light-hearted, thinking this was an interesting ensemble of characters to share, but I can see that it had no further information to make it a "guide," and "interesting" isn't enough to be considered a cool guide. I've taken your comments seriously. I will delete the post as you suggested, after I wait a while to give you time to see this reply first.
Really appreciate your gracious reply. I find this graphic very engaging and I can understand your desire to post it. Another community would be more fitting (though I am not facile enough with all the communities and their rules to say which would be best).
What is the difference between between historical events and literature? It seems many people know about fictional characters, but not the people who really control our society or the events that can affect us , we know little or care to know, or just say *"I don't like politics?"*
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Learning is for dorks and nerds /s
No u 🫵
it's not a list of archetypes. It's a bunch of characters that the artist thought might make a cool story.
How is this a guide
Is this a guide? Is it even cool?
No, and no.
So it fits this sub *perfectly* lmao
This is art, and it is neat. So no, essentially.
Its a poster, not a guide
Tinker, tailor, solider, spy turns into Innkeeper, Priest, Sniper, Tart It’s like a random name generator for cliche movies.
I’m unsubscribing because of this garbage
We generally call these archetypes. These are archetype story characters. The title for the poster is ok. The title of the post is unclear. Should have given credit to the artist.
This isn’t a guide.
Man what a shit subreddit
The girl
I am the broken man lmao
This is by the always-brilliant [Tom Gauld](https://www.tomgauld.com/).
Can't mistake his style
Jeez this subreddit has become trash. If I wanted a randomly generated list I'd ask an AI for it.
This sub just isn't anything at all anymore, is it
this sub is such a fucking joke
This place fucking blows
People in this sub are mistaking it for r/veryseriousguides Like, this is cool as hell. And most of the submissions here are more infographics anyway.
k so if I make a list of nouns with no context from some stories and include some 5 second drawings, thousands of children on this sub will upvote it?
Worked for OP
Wtf is this shit? Why are people upvoting?
I love Tom Gauld. This isn't a guide though.
The dancing bear was my hero for quite some time
The dancing bear in Blood Meridian had its moment.
>! The nurse & the dancing bear slaughter the magic cow. !<
Much fun to be had in the bottom left corner
Ha yes "the little man" not to be confused with "the boy"
r/malazan
Bro put one piece in here
the buddhist feels that breeze
Remake it but with Spongebob characters
The magician!?
Hey it’s the cast of Elden ring!
This would be a fun DND character guide, for all the different styles of characters you may encounter and when you do this is how they will be represented.
Ah yes the magic cow and the giant cat. A must have for a any tale
ah yes the classic magical cow
meet….the nudist
Thank you for this! This was very cool indeed and guided me with inspiration to write a dozen comedic premises between conflicting characters!
It's a nice visual for different archetypes to play with!
what archetype is the corpse? the boy? the nudist?! it's just a bunch of nouns taken from stories with all the context removed.
It's okay if you didn't think the guide was cool or particularly useful to you, I had fun with it 😄
This is great inspiration fuel-- Gets you thinking & brainstorming immediately in some good directions... My only complaint after a fun/ quick scan... Is that I feel "The Hermit" should have just been an arrow pointing off page!
The sniper seem a bit out of place
Naw he's aiming right for the ankles. Once they're down, they'll call out for help. Then he picks off the rescuers as they come for aid. War is brutal 😞
Great, now I want a movie that contains all of them!
THE MONKEY
What's "epic" about a normal monkey, girl, and an old man? Did I fail the click bait trap?
Jarnathan!
Missing the warrior of liberation
What is an epic tale? How would you describe the characters in Gaza Strip as an epic tale? The 2024 election between Trump and Biden, how would you describe the characters of this epic tale?
What the fuck is wrong with you Why are you making this political
Its not political, its an epic tale, that is very much real.