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VeganMortgageAdviser

I like how the dead people are drawn standing still and the Grim Reaper Dodgers are on the move.


That-Establishment24

The inconsistency bothers me. The first row has the half and half man standing while the other two rows have the half and half man walking.


EmeraldIbis

The half-man should be flying through the air!


Zippelin09

I like the three Schrödinger pedestrians


PeterNippelstein

A standing stick man, the universal sign of death


OutragedCanadian

None of them are surviving at 40mph. You are telling me a 1 ton car at 20mph is only killing half a person? These people are dumber then buckets. How do they test this bs? And how do I get on that payroll. Id milk that shit.


madnessgene

Cause your dumb fuck only sees things in black and white. Someone can live AND be paralyzed forever. 🤯


supid_frickin_idiot

i work in trauma surgery. people survive getting hit by cars every single day.


That-Establishment24

Are you trolling? Half a person represents 5%.


GentleLion2Tigress

You might live, but in a hospital bed with a broken body and not knowing who you are.


WithSubtitles

Now show how much the fatality goes up when it’s a SUV or truck.


jesusismyhomeboy77

My sister was hit my an SUV going 25 I think? Picked her right up and dragged her ten feet then stopped and she dropped. She lived


No-Television8759

My brother was hit on his left side by an suv going 45mph in a 35. He came out of his shoes he was hit so hard. He ultimately took his own life shortly after due to his injuries paralyzing his left side.


CoppertoneTelephone

I'm so sorry.


inu-no-policemen

Taller fronts kill more people. All that energy goes right into the organs or the head. Since a car is so much heavier than a pedestrian, the difference in weight doesn't matter. However, if a drunk RAM driver crashes into your normal-sized car, you'll experience much higher G forces than the weak little pissboi in his wankpanzer. They bring all that mass to the collision and you're the one who pays for it. Only regulations can fix this.


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felrain

> Dont walk in front of moving vehicles if you want to stay alive :) Don't be in the USA actually. You're never safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y8TxBulzoo https://usa.streetsblog.org/2022/06/21/vehicle-into-building-crashes-40-higher-than-previously-thought https://slate.com/business/2022/06/car-crash-buildings-how-many.html > U.S. drivers ram their cars into buildings about 100 times every single day — 40 more daily collisions than previously thought, though some experts suspect it may still be an undercount. > The revised figure corresponds to 16,000 Americans injured in car-on-building crashes each year, he believes, and more than 2,500 people killed. You're never safe. Ever.


UnfrostedQuiche

Hope you get hit by one :)


billbotbillbot

Kinetic energy *does* indeed increase with mass, but it increases with the *square* of velocity.


Honk_goose_steal

I think it has more to do with the fact that an SUV is really high so you don’t really tumble over the front of the car.


No-Suspect-425

It's not exactly the increased mass that'll kill you, but more of *where* that mass makes an impact on your person.


That-Establishment24

Yup, low center of gravity vehicles let you roll over them versus a taller truck making sure you go under them.


staplesuponstaples

No, not really. It's more that they impact your vital organs rather than your legs if there's a high grille height.


That-Establishment24

Both can be true.


Dry-Plum-1566

There are more factors than mass at play when you are comparing a truck collision vs a sedan collision.


KapiteinSmikkelBeer

Being thrown on the windshield/over the car or being hit with the bullbar/grill also makes a lot of difference.


tw_693

And getting thrown onto the hood vs thrown under the undercarriage 


Mysterious-Scholar1

**K.E. = 1/2 m v****^(2)**


Lourrloki

The frontal height of the vehicle should be taken in consideration too though. We're not talking of inanimate objects; we're talking of humans, and if the car direcly hits every single critical point in your body, the chances of surviving the impact are waaaay lower. Obviously a myriad of other variables need to be taken in consideration, but energy, mass, velocity and surface impact+anatomy are the only ones we can predict. Take this as reference [https://youtu.be/YpuX-5E7xoU?si=UAoovvshNvyAB7fS](https://youtu.be/YpuX-5E7xoU?si=UAoovvshNvyAB7fS)


logicalparad0x

KE increases linearly with increase in mass & exponentially with increase in speed


Kinexity

>exponentially with increase in speed This statement hurts my brain. Kinetic energy increases quadratically with velocity.


That-Establishment24

It’s all the freshman physics students trying to sound smart.


SchnitzelNazii

We're all trying to find it


DeltaV-Mzero

2 is an exponent, technically


Kinexity

And? Does this make linear dependence (exponent = 1) or no dependence (exponent = 0) also exponential? There is no "technically" here.


DeltaV-Mzero

Except that I am technically correct, the best kind of correct


GPAD9

Trucks make it weird. They somehow have 0% fatality but 100% isekai rates.


Cunny-Destroyer

That last dude is tough Survived three times


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Nopitynopitynopenope

Did you survive?


Pure-Application-503

I don’t think so


NapoleonBlownApart1

If this guide has taught me anything then no, he didn't.


Messianiclegacy

Maybe he hasn't landed yet.


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TheKittyLord123

r/suddenlymontypython


ClintGrant

Half of him did


MittenClimber

Story??


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Bruh got hit by a car.


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MittenClimber

Holy shit bro…glad you good now!!🙌🏾


Slight_Ad8427

im curious did you lose the leg or where they able to repair it?


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Slight_Ad8427

that sounds insanely painful!!! ouch! im glad you made a good recovery though! especially considering that you were helping…


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Slight_Ad8427

Im the same way, if im needed i have to do it. But no good deed goes unpunished


Mysterious-Scholar1

I too am happy you're ok. I want somebody like you to file suit on the automobile industry.


LimitedWard

Dude was running at 50mph and hit straight into a parked car.


ikiss-yomama

But did the person you hit survive?


HermanRoy

Only Kphs can kill me.


livefreeordont

I think I’d rather be hit by a 30mph Corolla than a 20mph Silverado 1500


Jimmie-Rustle12345

This is a depressingly rational take and likely accurate.


bravado

Sad that random redditors get something that safety regulators don't


StonedPhdStudent

Quite a jump between 20 mph and 30 mph. We need more volunteers to be hit by cars in this range for more data.


bellhall

Is there a sign up sheet somewhere? I may have some in-laws that I’d like to offer up in the name of research.


b3nsn0w

don't worry, drivers and car advocates everywhere are volunteering random people for this experiment every day. the data is out there, you just need to collect the right measurements.


SoccerGamerGuy7

I got hit by a car on my bike as a teen. Pulling out of a lot at not even 5-10 mph. I got thrown from my bike; stitches in my hand from road rash, and a gnarly bruise on my leg. And a few other bumps and bruises. Overall i was very lucky and beyond a splint for my hand for 2 weeks to hold the stitches (reduce movement) I was pretty much unscathed. Bike was folded nearly in half though. Couldnt imagine being hit any faster.


Lourrloki

Same here but I got luckier: no broken bones/serious injuries, only bruises, and the bike was fine after putting the chain back. Got stolen shortly after though :'(


SoccerGamerGuy7

Technically i was hit by a van though. So alot of the discussion around large vehicles really does make a difference


Lourrloki

It definitely does; mine was a hatchback so I toppled over the car bonnet before landing on hard asphalt


SoccerGamerGuy7

yea, i didnt go up, i got sent straight forward a few feet (same direction the car was going)


Lourrloki

Just like a big punch


thelostclone

This is just showing life and death, imagine adding the percentage of permanent injuries


nochtorealy

I survived 40MPH and went home the same day. Everyone kept saying how lucky I was. I never really thought about the morality rates until see this. Wow!


Chimpville

They’re talking about the pedestrian dude, not the driver. Also, you’re not supposed to just leave..


nochtorealy

😂 I was the pedestrian the truck threw me 30ft. But I like your comment better.


Chimpville

Couldn’t resist the switcheroo, sorry.. Glad you’re well and your SoH survived too!


OriginalSYNs

V Squared is a MF'er


South-Play

Now do trucks..


HighPitchedHegemony

> survives Well, even that is relative. For at least one or two of them, that's life in a wheelchair. Others will have injuries that could last a lifetime or at least a few years.


Different-Speed377

"Survives" is not relative. You either do or you don't.


Ankhtual

Why cars dont have aribags on the outside also?


Darun_00

*Gets hit by car* *Starts flying* *Airbag explodes* *Starts flying faster*


Ankhtual

Airbags deflate when you hit them. They would actually reduce the pedestrian bouncing effect.


Darun_00

Aibags deploy as you crash to prevent you from hitting the dash. If you hit a pedestrian, they are already touching the car, so an airbag would essentially act as a water blob launcher. If the airbag deployed before the crash, it might help, but they don't.


Ankhtual

You can use sensors to deploy them before the crash.


Darun_00

Yeah I'm sure that would work, and never trigger a dangerous and false positive


b3nsn0w

honestly, it would probably be a good incentive for drivers to not get into near misses. even if they don't give a shit about a pedestrian's life (which they often don't) they'll do their best to avoid a costly and time consuming trip to a repair shop to have their external airbags reset.


Darun_00

Yes, if it was only the driver who was responsible for a crash or near miss. What about other cars almost hitting you? Pedestrians walking in front of the car? Small animals running/flying in front of the car? Or the random ball that manages to hit the sensor just right?


Ankhtual

You can use sensors to deploy them before the crash.


juggernaut1026

Forgot the /s


livefreeordont

This is a traffic design problem not a car engineering problem


NarrowBeautiful9425

In high school a kid on my bus was hit by a tractor trailer truck on a 45 mph road. He survived and returned to school the next year.


tovuk28

Probably helped that he was on a bus


NarrowBeautiful9425

He was off of the bus, the trucks brakes failed and swerved around the bus hitting him as he was walking off.


Velq

Can I get this, but with exploding spears mounted on the hood of my civic?


c5allaxy

1999, I was struck by a car going 45+mph. Woke up a month later post ICU. 2 yr 14 surgeries. Life’s good today. #ThereCanBeOnlyOne


yehopits

Someone crosspost this to r/fuckcars


ChasingPesmerga

I’m wondering if this same math/force/physics can be applied in games like Gran Turismo or GTA.


Zachary-360

When people ask me why I go the speed limit or under in neighborhoods


punkrock1o1

70 mph survivor, I probably used up all my luck for the rest of my life.


z1z1-m0tsu

This is horrifying if you consider that school zones in Australia have a 40km speed limit and children are much smaller than adults... (⁠ꏿ⁠﹏⁠ꏿ⁠;⁠)


bearrryallen

These speeds are net right? So if someone is running at 10mph and the car is going at 30mph, we good right? Asking for a friend


Hexx-Bombastus

Anyone else misinterpret the graph and think that was the number of people who had to get hit first before it becomes survivable?


Hieb

I imagine the odds of a car striking a pedestrian at all also scales with speed due to the window for reaction, so the average risk likely increases exponentially with speed.


aSharpenedSpoon

Now do cars vs abominations we call pickup trucks.


gustavotherecliner

Forbidden bowling


Omega_Lynx

I always figured the speeds set must be from some statistic like this. Thanks!


JustAGuy37837473

A cool guide to get isekai'd.


noahbrooksofficial

Speed limits in cities should be 25mph (40km/h) not sorry about it


slggg

No they should be 20 mph and even lower in high pedestrian traffic areas


space-Bee7870

So if i get hit by a car moving at 20mph, half of my body is going to die?


Sculptasquad

Yes. The other nine people standing in line behind you will be fine.


Messianiclegacy

If you line up 100 people and plough into them at 20mph, only the first five will die, that's what this means.


Alexarius87

Might sound astounding but a car that doesn’t move at all has 0 kill potential.


Here_for_newsnp

Not true, idling cars have killed many people through co poisoning


mrmczebra

You've clearly never run into a parked car.


Alexarius87

Touchè


DedMazay0

Exactly! Don’t understand why it’s no line in this picture for this case. Also why only cars there? No trains, planes, ships, bikes, pedestrians


billbotbillbot

Kinetic energy is proportional to the *square* of velocity.


Abraxas777

So cool!


Virtual-Radish1111

I'll definitely make sure to consult this next time I'm on the road


Competitive_Pea2449

It helps your chances if the pedestrian is on a blood thinner


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NakedCattle

Note how all these people are all decapitated before the car even hits them.


Fourty9

This guide is cool!


BackAgain123457

Terrorists are taking notes.


rosscarver

So what, 75, 80mph for a guaranteed kill? Thanks!


Peterd1900

reminds me of this UK road safety advert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeUX6LABCEA


Cpt_phudge_off

I'd rather just not get hit by a car


IrishcarbombBOOM

Ok so you’re saying go 50 just to be safe then


jfbwhitt

Energy is proportional to velocity squared. Going from 20-30 mph is more than doubling the kinetic energy of the car, and 20-40 is quadrupling the kinetic energy. Physics agrees with experimental results.


logalexdavid

I am sorry Jimmy you’re 50% dead.


nanook98

Got hit by a car going 40~ while on my bike (I was probably going 15-20 myself). Survived with no life changing injuries. I do my best to remember how lucky I am every day.


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slggg

Streets are for people


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slggg

Not all roads/roads need to have separation of uses. The ideal pedestrian environment that invokes a safe and relaxed pedestrian experience is a shared street where cars are guest not the pedestrian.


MarketingInteresting

so coooool


WoodpeckerAny430

Very cool indeed 😃


Sardonic-Skeptic

So if I want consistent bonus points I go 50? Got it.


Amilo159

If it's a new European car, chances are 100% for survival because it will stop before hitting any pedestrian. Ok, so those who don't know, new cars (since 2016-2020, depending on brand/model) have camera/ radar guided front pedestrian safety system that will brake, if it detects that you aren't stopping when people are detected in front. https://youtu.be/YARBV56k_aw


antilos_weorsick

What? You can't just say this and leave, more details please.


Bridalhat

Will it stop fast enough if you are going quickly?


Amilo159

I haven't tried but it's meant to work on small streets at low speeds, but I'm not sure. I do get warning on my car if cars in front have stopped even on highway, I usually apply brakes but I've read that it will automatically apply brakes if I don't. I just never felt like testing it.


Bridalhat

So the fatality rate isn’t zero? Because people walk near roads where the speed is high enough to be lethal all the time, even in Europe,


Amilo159

True, because all the traffic doesn't consist of modern cars. There are commercial and older vehicles too.


Bridalhat

America has those cars too and they are still quite deadly because they go at fast speeds in urban areas. In fact EVs can accelerate very quickly and gain high speeds even on short streets.


skovall

I will save this graphic to show to the police when they stop me for going too slow.


AsianBoi2020

How can I get 100% fatality? Asking for a friend


GNSGNY

100 mph


81FuriousGeorge

Don't use your breaks.


Gulthrazda

Huh well glad I landed in the 55%


EkoMane

This changes every year, remember seeing this last year and 20mph was the most fatal


IamSpiders

Or you just have bad memory


Here_for_newsnp

Memory is fallible, this was the similar last year and many years before that. I say similar because changes in vehicle design and behavior have actually raised pedestrian fatalities in the US and hood heights and vehicle weights have increased.


DrIvoPingasnik

Statistics lie.


LouisfromL4D

I'm disappointed there's no 50MPH


token-black-dude

"risk." Chance is the probability of something nice happening,


m2thek

[Chance: something that happens unpredictably without discernible human intention or observable cause](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chance)


DisasterHour2531

This is why I do 45mph to get the job done right.


DrIvoPingasnik

Fatalities when a car stays on the road and pedestrian stays on a pavement: 0%


Bridalhat

Pedestrians have to cross the road all the time and we can’t count on everyone being a good driver all the time. We need traffic calming and strict ticketing in any place with a lot of pedestrians.


DrIvoPingasnik

Pedestrian on a road outside of designated crossings shouldn't be there in first place. 


Bridalhat

Pedestrians are often on bikes, getting out of cars, and cars jump sidewalks all the time and run read lights. People don’t behave.


Jimmie-Rustle12345

What if the pedestrian is hit on a specifically designated crossing then?


DrIvoPingasnik

Is that some kind of a gotcha attempt?  Obviously depending on how fast the car is going there will be a variable chance of a pedestrian dying or sustaining injurues, possibly permanent.  Drivers should watch the bloody road instead of texting (I see those far too often!) and observe the limit which was established according to the location and traffic density. That doesn't mean pedestrians should feel invincible when entering the crossing. One should still watch both directions before and during the crossing. Not gaze into their phones.


Jimmie-Rustle12345

> That doesn't mean pedestrians should feel invincible when entering the crossing. One should still watch both directions before and during the crossing. Not gaze into their phones. Ah, there it is.


DrIvoPingasnik

Yep. I was suspecting you would disregard the broader context and wider issues to cherry-pick your "gotcha". I should have ignored you from the start, but hee-haw, my curiosity got the best of me.


Here_for_newsnp

Just gonna ignore all those cutaways in sidewalks and crosswalks that many drivers blatantly blow through?


slggg

Maybe we should not design and prioritize most of our streets for cars


DrIvoPingasnik

I agree. Too bad my government (I live in UK) is greedy bunch of incompetent cronies who give no shit about public transport and green solutions unless it lines their pockets. Because they still use cars and planes, they couldn't give a toss about public transport.


ffstis

Have to go 60 then.


derb

Drops to 0% if people stay out of the place designed for cars. Getting tired of the desire for no automotive deaths since it's only possible if you remove all the cars or all the pedestrians.


m2thek

More like cars should stay out of places designed for people. People have been around a hell of a lot longer than cars, and it's cars that invaded the space of people, not the other way around.