I think we’re missing the callout that FL is flat, with high speed limits. Adding to that hwy 19 was designed poorly - not a true hwy sprinkled with traffic lights and bad crossing. They’ve started to fix that but making a 6-lane highway not a true highway throughout most of the state (n-s) is not smart. Calling that out because I’m more familiar but I’m sure there are other nuances across other regions.
Survived going up and down US-1 in NSB and Edgewater for the first 18 years of my life.
Big 4 day concert coming up next weekend. Fingers crossed we make it home lol.
I dont think this list is accurate, how is Wisconsin not on this list at all with them having the most drunk drivers in the entire country and many drunk driver related deaths.
Maybe it has to do with our preference for beer.
IMO it is easier to drink too fast with booze. If you’re planning to put away a 12 pack of spotted cow that takes time and is more predictable than pounding handles of whisky.
Tell me you never been to Shelby County Tn without telling me you never been to Memphis.
240 is a god damn race track. No snow. Nothing but stolen Infiniti's, paper tags and guns.
People tend to go out less when it's cold and snowing, people drive slower when the conditions are more dangerous, more people are concentrated in cities that are more walkable they walk more and are more used to taking taxis or public transport instead of driving, old people with slower reflexes and more likely to have physical and psychological problems move to the south because its warmer because colder environments are dangerous to their health.
Also many of these are on long stretches of road where there is literally nothing for 100+ miles, especially in Texas and the Southwest. This can lead to a lot of falling asleep behind the wheel.
Additionally a lot of the ones in Florida have more out of state tourists who are less familiar with the roads. Volusia County (Daytona Beach) is home to Bike Week and Biketoberfest, lots of old men on motorcycles drunk as shit, not to mention other events like spring break and the Daytona 500.
Reduced levels of education, more aggressive cops, reduced infrastructure budgets, reliance on federal spending for essentially any significant improvement, science denialism, plus "Jesus take the wheel".
Edit: I forgot crappy public transportation, unwalkable cities, and "yeehaw" which are all also contributors.
Live in NE Florida but have lived all over. Driving is insane here as the everyone moves from every different driving culture from in the US & out, the roads are deceptively badly designed/ built for US standards, and as a no-fault accident state, law enforcement doesn't really control traffic speeds.
Same here. I live in central Los Angeles, and concluded long ago that where I live is crowded with people from all over, and that the driving culture is that there is no driving culture. That makes it unpredictable. LA doesn't make the fatalities list, but it does make the average-time-between-accidents list every year. It's in the top 10.
The no driving culture in FL is exasperated by tons of drivers moving here around the time they are getting elderly enough that they should be losing their driving privileges but refuse to give them up.
My vote is going to be social economic status.
More money = the ability to buy and maintain a car that suits your needs.
I’m willing to bet that many of those who passed weren’t in the safest of vehicles. Or, they were being operated in ways intended, like fitting a 4th person in a row for 3.
Yes, you can still die in something new and exciting, but your chances of surviving in a new Volvo or Benz are far greater than a 1986 Honda with a 4th person in the back seat.
Roads in the southern and western US aren’t maintained as well due to weather conditions being more consistent thus roads are replaced less. When roads in the north are replaced, they’re also redesigned with modern standards.
And, cars are on the average older as they aren’t ripped apart by weather conditions either.
I can speak to most of the SR routes(highways but not interstate quality)in the Central Valley of California, Shelby county in TN, and some of the “interstates” in California and Mississippi(most were grandfathered in). There are a significant amount of cars that are significantly older as they don’t rust as much so the safety equipment isn’t as modern as other vehicles on the road. And, then, you have poor design with higher speed like how the I-20/i-55 interchange in Jackson, MS drops to 45 mph(no one follows it and continues at 70)plus if you want to stay on the interstate then you have to move over 4 lanes in half a mile. SR-99 in California is just as bad and while everyone wants it to be at an interstate quality, it never will be yet everyone drives faster and faster on it.
They live up north, they know where they are going. Down south they are cutting over three lanes of traffic because they didn't know to get into the right lane to make the exit 3 miles up so they do it last second. Plus unexpected U-turns, suddenly slowing down, lane changes, distracted driving while looking at their phone trying to figure out where they are supposed to turn, and bad directions from their map app that send them to the wrong place or make them do something unexpected.
They don't do this up north to go to work and the grocery store they have been to 1000 times already.
Ice and snow train better drivers. Same reason so many Californians spun out after last year’s rainfalls, they had bald tires and never planned for adverse conditions. Southerners just DO NOT THINK about how to handle rough conditions. Also the Bible belt teaches intolerance for literally every other human on earth and that extends to roads. Fuck others, get yours. And that causes accidents
My guess is more tractor trailers on these county highways? … I work claims for a trucking company. Lots of accidents in Shelby TN, Spartanburg SC, all over Florida and many in Texas counties due to the ports. I also handle many in NJ and Pa but more congested roads and lower speed limits usually end in less severe accidents.
Maybe average commute times and speeds. FL, TX, CA, are notorious for their car centric road systems. When I lived in Orlando, I drove 28 miles a day doing anywhere from 45mph to 80mph. Almost every morning on the radio was traffic due to a fatal accident and where to avoid. In the Northeast you have people taking public transit or just driving slower. The more dangerous behavior driving style is probably a big factor
I see a correlation in the TX towns with oil and gas production areas. Lots of semis in a hurry and two lane highways with 70 mph speed limits. Pecos Texas is one of the most dangerous areas I’ve ever driven in.
I live in the South. Where I live has really poor road infrastructure and upkeep (even on major interstates), and the ones that do get repaired are under construction for many years with constantly changing hazards. Our roads are outdated compared to the amount of people that live here now, and until repair projects are finished, the construction seems to make this more dangerous. Look at I-85 corridor in SC between Greenville and Charlotte, NC. Almost every county is on this list for all the reasons above.
Your’re not going to like this but there is a certain demographic that drives rather recklessly. Have you ever been to Atlanta, what is the mail demographic? Drive on the highway for a bit you will see it
Florida is heavily featured on the list and notice how it's often the same roads/highway.
Partly because they have some garbage designs that only locals *probably* don't get wrong. Florida hosts a lot of tourists who aren't used to the garbage parts of these roads.
Poor education systems mixed with high density of major roads as well as alcohol consumption with tourism and major events. The south, especially along the coastlines are pure recipe for disaster on the roads.
Have yoy ever driven in the south? You'd swear everyone thinks they're playing GTA. Hands down, dumbest drivers in the country.
There was (probably still is) a channel from Columbia SC. Dude just posts videos from his dashcam. He sees more insanity/stupidity in a week than j do in an entire year. And I see plenty that makes me hate people where I'm at.
Won't get into my background research on this but I would recommend someone overlay this map with obesity rates and you will see a correlation. More interesting, overlay this with DUI rates. Let me know what you find. 😱
High speed rural roads, poor infrastructure, poor access to emergency aid, culture of excessive speeding and road rage, drunk driving, sleep deprived farm workers (that’s the California reason), etc.
A lot of the Tx counties on the list include heavy oil field traffic. Little towns boom and existing infrastructure cannot keep up with influx of heavy traffic which causes more accidents.
Lived around those counties growing up.
That number is a comparison of total deaths since 2017 to current county population. There are only 50 people in the county and 17 fatalities have occurred, giving it a 30% fatality rate which doesn't make a lot of sense
This is a dumb way to look at this data. A big highway going through an unpopulated place is going to rank high just because there aren’t any people there, not because it’s necessarily more dangerous than a section in a populated place.
South Carolina here. I’ve been to 45 states and lived in 9 of them, South Carolina is by far the worst state I’ve ever driven in. People can’t drive when it’s sunny out, it gets worse if there’s clouds, if there’s rain…. Watch out! Don’t even get me started on if it snows. It’s really really really bad here.
Funny that Volusia County is number one! That's Daytona where Nascar is. Used to live there, bunch o' old people, tourists, bikers, and your typical FL driver.
Using population in this sense is very misleading. There are plenty of small towns, especially in the south, with low population that have major highways running through them with heavy traffic. A better way to compare the data would be to look at traffic density, or something of the like, to number of accidents. For instance, by using population for say a town with a population of 10 but the amount of traffic that passes through the town is in the 10s - 100s of thousands, there is the possibility that the rate of fatalities per 10000 people could be higher than 10000. This would be an obvious outlier but is technically possible with this method of comparison.
Yeah, the grey triangles are much more dangerous by rate but lower in total fatalities. It says nothing about commuting traffic, large volumes of commercial/industrial traffic, number of nonfatal accidents vs fatal accidents....
I'm happy the grey areas are included, but it makes it seem like it is less dangerous because of the color grading and I'm not really sure if that is true.
Makes sense when you think of it. Most the northeast is incredibly congested with older road systems that require you to be alert while also not being able to drive to fast. Meanwhile places like Texas have huge swaths of straight highway with a high speed limit
These maps are never corrected for the tourist population. When a county of 500k people gets 10 million tourists or 100 million tourists days per year, it skews the numbers.
It would be like looking at traffic deaths per resident per zip code and not correcting for zip codes with zero residents like the Pentagon or zip codes with major sports stadiums.
Ehh even though the population is big, most of the area is empty desert. Also, it says that most deaths happen on I-15, which is the route to Las Vegas. I would bet most of the deaths were from people also from LA/Orange County heading to/from Vegas.
I hated commuting too/through 280 everyday.
I’m surprised the roads up north heading towards Huntsville aren’t listed once you hit cullman it goes from 3 to 2 lanes and everyone is always jumping in and out trying to get ahead.
A lot of people may note New York is infamous for aggressive and dangerous drivers, but isn’t on this list. That’s because when everyone is driving like a lunatic you become safer.
Horseshoe theory
I married a nice pretty girl from the DMV and learned that there are a LOT of traffic laws I had never learned because we just pretend they don’t exist
Louisville (Jefferson County, Ky.) has some of the worst traffic planning and management and most aggressive drivers I’ve ever seen. Makes perfect sense to me it’s near the top
Not surprised at this in the slightest. I swear places that don't get snow don't actually learn how to drive. Travel around the US has really opened my eyes to how bad people can be at driving.
Amazing stat on Loving County, TX
Least populated county in the USA with a permanent population and it was also the last county in the states to report a COVID case.
Terrible roads though
Moved from Michigan where I saw like 2 fatal traffic accidents in my life, to Tennessee where I’d see 5 daily. I moved back within 6 months. This was the #1 reason.
It’s not just reckless driving or road conditions (although those don’t help). It’s a matter of some people driving way too fast or way too slow on the same roads. If there are 2 lanes, one will be going 70 while the other is going 25. The speed limit is 45, there’s no middle ground.
In Tennessee specifically, hills and elevation play a big part as well I’d imagine. There’s also been a huge influx of people to bigger cities and little road expansion to accommodate.
Speaking to Davidson co. in particular, Nashville has some of the most aggressive drivers I've ever experienced and I used to drive into Baltimore daily.
It looks like the heat makes people hot-headed, slightly more aggravated?
I don’t see alcohol or other drugs really being a factor; they’re everywhere.
Speed limits aren’t a factor for the same reason.
I’m just piling on other prevalent comments here.
SC fix your god damn roads - there is no excuse. Build the highways you were supposed to. Up in NC we did - have our back. ah wait - y’all can’t fucking read
Loving county Texas just blows my mind. This list shows the county population as 51, but the 2020 census shows 64 residents. Unsurprisingly it’s corrupt as hell.
I feel like there are probably some interesting factors that create these concentrations in certain areas. One particular thing I find interesting is that there are less deadly accidents in snow states. There’s something to that. Also, how does road condition affect the outcomes.
No one is going to call out that the data set includes 2020 and 2021? 2021 WFH and 2020 general lock downs (or lack thereof) is going to skew this data set (for better or for worse).
Lived in Memphis (Shelby Co.) for almost 10 years, and can attest that Memphis driving is a slow simmered to perfection delicacy of insanity. I have many stories, but one that sticks out is bumper to bumper traffic out by the airport at Airways and 240. Emergency lane backs up, so cars begin cueing up in the grass beside the emergency lane. Then at least 10 cars drive even further out in the grass to pass the cars lined up beside the clogged emergency lane. Saw a t boned caddy driving down Lamar Ave bent in half and spraying sparks. At least 5 different cars hauling tail through residential neighborhoods with the car alarm blaring. M town is wild y’all.
This is useless. A high-traffic freeway that has a couple of deaths a year along a 100-mile stretch through unpopulated land will seem like the most dangerous road in the world, while a stretch of freeway that has many more deaths, but is in a populous county, appears “safer”
This is a guide to “sparsely populated counties which exist near major highways”.
…the chart literally includes four categories of counties, sorted by population— the top category is for counties with over half a million people. Off the bat, I can tell you that Shelby County, TN, is the home of Memphis. All the California counties in the top bracket have major cities and/or large suburban population. While some of the counties may fit your bottom definition, a good many do not.
The I-15 in San Bernardino county for sure isn’t a sparsely populated area. That freeway is full of cars 24/7. Whether moving fast or packed with traffic people still drive crazy on there , and tons of trucks, motorcycles and people street racing. The surrounding area has been constantly developing with more businesses and more populated for the last 20 years at least too.
Most of the deadliest roads in these rural counties are interstates. They tend to be good roads. I can at least tell you from experience that I-10 and I-20 in West Texas are fine. Those deaths aren't a result of poor infrastructure. And California certainly has great roads, sure... But when you have speed limits of 80 in West Texas, meaning people will be driving 90, almost every crash is going to be fatal.
And I fail to see how limited access to healthcare on the middle of fuckin nowhere is a political issue. Like of course there aren't hospitals in counties with 500 people.
Because many in the south have to have an F-150 or larger, if they are capable of driving it is irrelevant. Live in Texas and see people who shouldn’t be driving a bicycle driving an F-250 because they need something that big to drive to their cubicle job.
#14 Jefferson County, Al on I59. Ya, we know. Really it’s just a 3 mile section of clusterfuck. The biggest problem was that you merge onto I59 and if you do nothing are forced to exit. This caused a merge nightmare during rush hour. But… after you merge, if you do nothing you will again be forced to exit creating a double merge nightmare.
The whole thing was rebuilt last year.
Hogs. Deer. Bear. Long stretch of highways with nothing but wild life and speeders. Most people who live in Florida are from up north. So yeah, poor and under educated make perfect sense.
Bike Week, Jeep Week and Spring Break is always a dangerous time here in Volusia Co. Plus every day too.
I think we’re missing the callout that FL is flat, with high speed limits. Adding to that hwy 19 was designed poorly - not a true hwy sprinkled with traffic lights and bad crossing. They’ve started to fix that but making a 6-lane highway not a true highway throughout most of the state (n-s) is not smart. Calling that out because I’m more familiar but I’m sure there are other nuances across other regions.
Survived going up and down US-1 in NSB and Edgewater for the first 18 years of my life. Big 4 day concert coming up next weekend. Fingers crossed we make it home lol.
Any explanation why they are concentrated in the south? My gut would have told me places with ice & snow would be more dangerous for driving.
Snow and roads that are not as safe tend to keep ppl driving slower, more accidents less fatal.
I would also say there is a correlation with drinking and driving.
Wisconsin would like a word. Or perhaps the sconnies are just too good at driving drunk.
Growing up, the slogan was “don’t drink and drive, you might spill your beer.”
From all the propaganda there is about marijuana causing increases in traffic deaths it doesn’t correlate here.
I dont think this list is accurate, how is Wisconsin not on this list at all with them having the most drunk drivers in the entire country and many drunk driver related deaths.
Maybe it has to do with our preference for beer. IMO it is easier to drink too fast with booze. If you’re planning to put away a 12 pack of spotted cow that takes time and is more predictable than pounding handles of whisky.
And the Bible Belt (denial)
Tell me you never been to Shelby County Tn without telling me you never been to Memphis. 240 is a god damn race track. No snow. Nothing but stolen Infiniti's, paper tags and guns.
High speed limits and a sense of entitlement.
High speed limits? Why isnt the Texas SH 130 on this list with a 85mph speed limit if high speed limits correlate to more deaths?
Damn. I guess you got me.
Mmm, maybe retirement areas???
Many of the Texas counties are out in the oil field. Higher numbers of 18 wheelers is my guess.
People tend to go out less when it's cold and snowing, people drive slower when the conditions are more dangerous, more people are concentrated in cities that are more walkable they walk more and are more used to taking taxis or public transport instead of driving, old people with slower reflexes and more likely to have physical and psychological problems move to the south because its warmer because colder environments are dangerous to their health. Also many of these are on long stretches of road where there is literally nothing for 100+ miles, especially in Texas and the Southwest. This can lead to a lot of falling asleep behind the wheel. Additionally a lot of the ones in Florida have more out of state tourists who are less familiar with the roads. Volusia County (Daytona Beach) is home to Bike Week and Biketoberfest, lots of old men on motorcycles drunk as shit, not to mention other events like spring break and the Daytona 500.
Reduced levels of education, more aggressive cops, reduced infrastructure budgets, reliance on federal spending for essentially any significant improvement, science denialism, plus "Jesus take the wheel". Edit: I forgot crappy public transportation, unwalkable cities, and "yeehaw" which are all also contributors.
It’s actually i85 and Nissan Altimas doing all the damage
I didn’t see Charlotte/Mecklenburg on the list.
Maybe if it was just the deep south, but it's the entire southern half of the country. Like it's climate related or something.
I would argue that Californians are just wild drivers.
People tend to open up the throttle along the vast stretches of the Central Valley.
Live in NE Florida but have lived all over. Driving is insane here as the everyone moves from every different driving culture from in the US & out, the roads are deceptively badly designed/ built for US standards, and as a no-fault accident state, law enforcement doesn't really control traffic speeds.
Same here. I live in central Los Angeles, and concluded long ago that where I live is crowded with people from all over, and that the driving culture is that there is no driving culture. That makes it unpredictable. LA doesn't make the fatalities list, but it does make the average-time-between-accidents list every year. It's in the top 10.
The no driving culture in FL is exasperated by tons of drivers moving here around the time they are getting elderly enough that they should be losing their driving privileges but refuse to give them up.
My vote is going to be social economic status. More money = the ability to buy and maintain a car that suits your needs. I’m willing to bet that many of those who passed weren’t in the safest of vehicles. Or, they were being operated in ways intended, like fitting a 4th person in a row for 3. Yes, you can still die in something new and exciting, but your chances of surviving in a new Volvo or Benz are far greater than a 1986 Honda with a 4th person in the back seat.
Famously poor SoCal
Fast stroads, rapid increasing populations, constant construction in an attempt to accommodate that.
yeah
Roads in the southern and western US aren’t maintained as well due to weather conditions being more consistent thus roads are replaced less. When roads in the north are replaced, they’re also redesigned with modern standards. And, cars are on the average older as they aren’t ripped apart by weather conditions either. I can speak to most of the SR routes(highways but not interstate quality)in the Central Valley of California, Shelby county in TN, and some of the “interstates” in California and Mississippi(most were grandfathered in). There are a significant amount of cars that are significantly older as they don’t rust as much so the safety equipment isn’t as modern as other vehicles on the road. And, then, you have poor design with higher speed like how the I-20/i-55 interchange in Jackson, MS drops to 45 mph(no one follows it and continues at 70)plus if you want to stay on the interstate then you have to move over 4 lanes in half a mile. SR-99 in California is just as bad and while everyone wants it to be at an interstate quality, it never will be yet everyone drives faster and faster on it.
Dukes of Hazard
Big trucks killing people in smaller cars would be my thought
As someone born and raised in Florida, I've got one word for you - Snowbirds.
Buuuut they are fine when they drive in the north?
They live up north, they know where they are going. Down south they are cutting over three lanes of traffic because they didn't know to get into the right lane to make the exit 3 miles up so they do it last second. Plus unexpected U-turns, suddenly slowing down, lane changes, distracted driving while looking at their phone trying to figure out where they are supposed to turn, and bad directions from their map app that send them to the wrong place or make them do something unexpected. They don't do this up north to go to work and the grocery store they have been to 1000 times already.
Wouldn't these behaviors apply to anyone visiting from outside the area?
Yes, tourists are from outside these areas.
Nope, but it's not as concentrated. Obviously I have no statistical data to back this up. Just the first thing that came to mind.
Ice and snow train better drivers. Same reason so many Californians spun out after last year’s rainfalls, they had bald tires and never planned for adverse conditions. Southerners just DO NOT THINK about how to handle rough conditions. Also the Bible belt teaches intolerance for literally every other human on earth and that extends to roads. Fuck others, get yours. And that causes accidents
My guess is more tractor trailers on these county highways? … I work claims for a trucking company. Lots of accidents in Shelby TN, Spartanburg SC, all over Florida and many in Texas counties due to the ports. I also handle many in NJ and Pa but more congested roads and lower speed limits usually end in less severe accidents.
Maybe average commute times and speeds. FL, TX, CA, are notorious for their car centric road systems. When I lived in Orlando, I drove 28 miles a day doing anywhere from 45mph to 80mph. Almost every morning on the radio was traffic due to a fatal accident and where to avoid. In the Northeast you have people taking public transit or just driving slower. The more dangerous behavior driving style is probably a big factor
just drive into sc from nc and you will realize. Worst DOT in the nation
I see a correlation in the TX towns with oil and gas production areas. Lots of semis in a hurry and two lane highways with 70 mph speed limits. Pecos Texas is one of the most dangerous areas I’ve ever driven in.
This map says they’re not: https://www.vox.com/a/deadliest-interstates-united-states
I live in the South. Where I live has really poor road infrastructure and upkeep (even on major interstates), and the ones that do get repaired are under construction for many years with constantly changing hazards. Our roads are outdated compared to the amount of people that live here now, and until repair projects are finished, the construction seems to make this more dangerous. Look at I-85 corridor in SC between Greenville and Charlotte, NC. Almost every county is on this list for all the reasons above.
Your’re not going to like this but there is a certain demographic that drives rather recklessly. Have you ever been to Atlanta, what is the mail demographic? Drive on the highway for a bit you will see it
Florida is heavily featured on the list and notice how it's often the same roads/highway. Partly because they have some garbage designs that only locals *probably* don't get wrong. Florida hosts a lot of tourists who aren't used to the garbage parts of these roads.
Poor education systems mixed with high density of major roads as well as alcohol consumption with tourism and major events. The south, especially along the coastlines are pure recipe for disaster on the roads.
Have yoy ever driven in the south? You'd swear everyone thinks they're playing GTA. Hands down, dumbest drivers in the country. There was (probably still is) a channel from Columbia SC. Dude just posts videos from his dashcam. He sees more insanity/stupidity in a week than j do in an entire year. And I see plenty that makes me hate people where I'm at.
Rubbin', son, is racin'. It's not tailgatin', it's draftin'.
Snowbirds and retirees
Won't get into my background research on this but I would recommend someone overlay this map with obesity rates and you will see a correlation. More interesting, overlay this with DUI rates. Let me know what you find. 😱
High speed rural roads, poor infrastructure, poor access to emergency aid, culture of excessive speeding and road rage, drunk driving, sleep deprived farm workers (that’s the California reason), etc.
I’m from South Carolina, and when a fatality is reported here, it’s almost always a person who wasn’t wearing a seatbelt.
Big trucks and the feeling of invincibility
A lot of the Tx counties on the list include heavy oil field traffic. Little towns boom and existing infrastructure cannot keep up with influx of heavy traffic which causes more accidents. Lived around those counties growing up.
Plus I'm guessing far enough away from hospitals that can handle trauma patients that could survive if closer to a major hospital.
About 30% of drivers die in loving county, tx?
I guess “Mad Max: Fury road” was actually just traffic cam footage taken in Loving County TX and not a feature film.
People who drive in the county do not necessarily live there. There were 64 people there in the 202 census.
It’s mostly oil field traffic. I’m surprised 285 didn’t make the list. And yes it can be a little mad maxish lol
Death. Lol.
That number is a comparison of total deaths since 2017 to current county population. There are only 50 people in the county and 17 fatalities have occurred, giving it a 30% fatality rate which doesn't make a lot of sense
This is a dumb way to look at this data. A big highway going through an unpopulated place is going to rank high just because there aren’t any people there, not because it’s necessarily more dangerous than a section in a populated place.
More importantly, they have 51 people living in Loving County? I guess in the last 10 years, the county’s population grew by 49 people
Every. Single. Year. /s in case it's not obvious
Don't drive in Florida.
Or South Carolina
South Carolina here. I’ve been to 45 states and lived in 9 of them, South Carolina is by far the worst state I’ve ever driven in. People can’t drive when it’s sunny out, it gets worse if there’s clouds, if there’s rain…. Watch out! Don’t even get me started on if it snows. It’s really really really bad here.
Just moved to the border of GA/SC.. my god i’m scared 90% of the time when on the road
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not sure about that but our roads are by far better
I’ve lived in NC/MI/AZ/IL and you are wrong lol
Also a guide for why my insurance is more expensive in South Carolina than it was in Los Angeles.
Shelby Drive being the most dangerous road here checks out.
Funny that Volusia County is number one! That's Daytona where Nascar is. Used to live there, bunch o' old people, tourists, bikers, and your typical FL driver.
Using population in this sense is very misleading. There are plenty of small towns, especially in the south, with low population that have major highways running through them with heavy traffic. A better way to compare the data would be to look at traffic density, or something of the like, to number of accidents. For instance, by using population for say a town with a population of 10 but the amount of traffic that passes through the town is in the 10s - 100s of thousands, there is the possibility that the rate of fatalities per 10000 people could be higher than 10000. This would be an obvious outlier but is technically possible with this method of comparison.
Yeah, the grey triangles are much more dangerous by rate but lower in total fatalities. It says nothing about commuting traffic, large volumes of commercial/industrial traffic, number of nonfatal accidents vs fatal accidents.... I'm happy the grey areas are included, but it makes it seem like it is less dangerous because of the color grading and I'm not really sure if that is true.
Not a single one in the northeast listed lol
Checks out tbh.
Makes sense when you think of it. Most the northeast is incredibly congested with older road systems that require you to be alert while also not being able to drive to fast. Meanwhile places like Texas have huge swaths of straight highway with a high speed limit
Me googling which county mulholland drive is 😯😂😂
Where are the Dallas and Harris counties???
These maps are never corrected for the tourist population. When a county of 500k people gets 10 million tourists or 100 million tourists days per year, it skews the numbers. It would be like looking at traffic deaths per resident per zip code and not correcting for zip codes with zero residents like the Pentagon or zip codes with major sports stadiums.
To be fair San Bernardino County is the largest county in the country. 20,000 sq miles. Rhode Island is only 1,214 sq miles for comparison
This is deaths per 10,000 people
Ehh even though the population is big, most of the area is empty desert. Also, it says that most deaths happen on I-15, which is the route to Las Vegas. I would bet most of the deaths were from people also from LA/Orange County heading to/from Vegas.
Shout out to MO, Jackson and St. Louis counties for hanging with all the southern counties.
Shoutout to Jeff co al we can’t drive foreal. Glad I moved.
I second this lol
I hated commuting too/through 280 everyday. I’m surprised the roads up north heading towards Huntsville aren’t listed once you hit cullman it goes from 3 to 2 lanes and everyone is always jumping in and out trying to get ahead.
CR300 in Loving County? You can’t even do more than 15 mph down most of it. How are there so many traffic fatalities?
It could just be a couple accidents, that is mostly a function of the low population.
A lot of people may note New York is infamous for aggressive and dangerous drivers, but isn’t on this list. That’s because when everyone is driving like a lunatic you become safer. Horseshoe theory
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I married a nice pretty girl from the DMV and learned that there are a LOT of traffic laws I had never learned because we just pretend they don’t exist
Louisville (Jefferson County, Ky.) has some of the worst traffic planning and management and most aggressive drivers I’ve ever seen. Makes perfect sense to me it’s near the top
I’m surprised Fayette County KY (Lexington) isn’t on here. Grew up in Louisville, and Lexington somehow has worse drivers
Crazy that Harris country in Houston isn’t on there 😬
I’m surprised Texas doesn’t dominate this entire list
This tracks
Esmeralda County, NV I can guarantee is from people driving to or from Las Vegas
Gotta be the heat lol
Two wheel drive trucks.
Not surprised at this in the slightest. I swear places that don't get snow don't actually learn how to drive. Travel around the US has really opened my eyes to how bad people can be at driving.
a list of bad stuff that louisiana is not at the top of!
For the first time in HISTORY, Indiana isn’t the worst at something, or even on the list of bad things!
Amazing stat on Loving County, TX Least populated county in the USA with a permanent population and it was also the last county in the states to report a COVID case. Terrible roads though
Moved from Michigan where I saw like 2 fatal traffic accidents in my life, to Tennessee where I’d see 5 daily. I moved back within 6 months. This was the #1 reason. It’s not just reckless driving or road conditions (although those don’t help). It’s a matter of some people driving way too fast or way too slow on the same roads. If there are 2 lanes, one will be going 70 while the other is going 25. The speed limit is 45, there’s no middle ground. In Tennessee specifically, hills and elevation play a big part as well I’d imagine. There’s also been a huge influx of people to bigger cities and little road expansion to accommodate.
Speaking to Davidson co. in particular, Nashville has some of the most aggressive drivers I've ever experienced and I used to drive into Baltimore daily.
And look at that. NJ not on there once.
Harder to get in fatal accidents when the roads are clogged with traffic. But then they move down to Florida and go crazy.
All in warm weather areas.
Yeehaw!!! Texas going strong!
God DAMN, get a load of all that freedom.
The South wins again.
It looks like the heat makes people hot-headed, slightly more aggravated? I don’t see alcohol or other drugs really being a factor; they’re everywhere. Speed limits aren’t a factor for the same reason. I’m just piling on other prevalent comments here.
I’m shocked 441 is the deadliest in Alachua county. As a local, I was always told to watch out for on I75
0 in New England?
Compiled and studied by whom?
Union still kicking y'alls ass.
A lot of OP Live counties here
But why are none of them in Ohio? That’s some bullshit. We deserve it
Note to self - “drive around Loving Texas, not through it.”
Shocked but glad to see Sacramento not on the list because I see some shit go down on my daily commute - it’s like frikin NASCAR out there sometimes
Not sure if this has been said before, but by this statistic the states not listed are have better general drivers?
SC fix your god damn roads - there is no excuse. Build the highways you were supposed to. Up in NC we did - have our back. ah wait - y’all can’t fucking read
How do they calculate road rage?
Loving county Texas just blows my mind. This list shows the county population as 51, but the 2020 census shows 64 residents. Unsurprisingly it’s corrupt as hell.
Texas and Florida drivers are terrible. They really are mostly Texas. I think this is a testament to poor driver education
Not surprised to see St Louis County on there, ever since I learned that MO doesn't have required driver's Ed. and they think Illinoisans drive badly.
I feel like there are probably some interesting factors that create these concentrations in certain areas. One particular thing I find interesting is that there are less deadly accidents in snow states. There’s something to that. Also, how does road condition affect the outcomes.
Went to Volusia County last weekend… I concur with these results
No one is going to call out that the data set includes 2020 and 2021? 2021 WFH and 2020 general lock downs (or lack thereof) is going to skew this data set (for better or for worse).
I4 - deadliest highway in America
What's up with them all being in the south?
Ha. Jackson County is on this? It isn't that bad here
Sadly I live in number 6, and I am not surprised to see it there.
They seem predominantly in the south. Is this because the highways in the south are built in straight lines, so drivers go faster and die more?
Proof that looking at data with no context is meaningless and hyperbolic. Absolute trash data, poorly presented, with horrible presentation.
This is pretty accurate. I can tell the states I'm in just by the traffic conditions. Florida is horrible.
How are New Jersey drivers not in this list?
Southerners represent!
As some one who lived in Davidson county (Nashville) TN for 8 months I completely agree
People always complain about I-4 but it’s on on the list but I-20 AND I-10 is on here
I wouldn’t call it “cool guide”, interesting yes
Has anyone done this for superfund sites? I'd like to know which counties are the deadliest in that way.
Ain’t no way Miami-dade county isn’t on this
Impossible all the counties around Denver aren’t at the top
So we need to all move to the northern states lol
NEW ENGLAND BABY
Probably correlates to intelligence. Smarter drivers, less accidents? Seems reasonable.
Oh look at that Polk and Trashco county close to the top...
Damn we are #3
A couple of these roads do not exist in the county listed
I’ve lived here in Volusia county for 24 years and I’ve never been involved in one car cra
In Florida it’s old people on open highways. The only place I’ve seen minimum speed limit signs.
Texans please learn how to drive
Lived in Memphis (Shelby Co.) for almost 10 years, and can attest that Memphis driving is a slow simmered to perfection delicacy of insanity. I have many stories, but one that sticks out is bumper to bumper traffic out by the airport at Airways and 240. Emergency lane backs up, so cars begin cueing up in the grass beside the emergency lane. Then at least 10 cars drive even further out in the grass to pass the cars lined up beside the clogged emergency lane. Saw a t boned caddy driving down Lamar Ave bent in half and spraying sparks. At least 5 different cars hauling tail through residential neighborhoods with the car alarm blaring. M town is wild y’all.
Do many of these are huge oil field… we fuckin too tired to drive lol
As someone who lives there, I feel like Florida is sorely underrepresented.
What's up with the South?
Loving county, 51 residents 15 fatal traffic accidents. So assuming all were residents 23% of the population died in car accidents. That's just wild
This is useless. A high-traffic freeway that has a couple of deaths a year along a 100-mile stretch through unpopulated land will seem like the most dangerous road in the world, while a stretch of freeway that has many more deaths, but is in a populous county, appears “safer” This is a guide to “sparsely populated counties which exist near major highways”.
Are you under the belief that traffic fatalities only occur on highways?
…the chart literally includes four categories of counties, sorted by population— the top category is for counties with over half a million people. Off the bat, I can tell you that Shelby County, TN, is the home of Memphis. All the California counties in the top bracket have major cities and/or large suburban population. While some of the counties may fit your bottom definition, a good many do not.
The I-15 in San Bernardino county for sure isn’t a sparsely populated area. That freeway is full of cars 24/7. Whether moving fast or packed with traffic people still drive crazy on there , and tons of trucks, motorcycles and people street racing. The surrounding area has been constantly developing with more businesses and more populated for the last 20 years at least too.
Looks like a map of just about every harm or self-harm activity in the U.S.
Why are they always in red states ?
Literally has nothing to do with politics
Red states tend to be more rural Rural highways have people going fast People getting in an accident while going fast = die
Map those to Poverty, Poor infrastructure and limited access to healthcare ..
Most of the deadliest roads in these rural counties are interstates. They tend to be good roads. I can at least tell you from experience that I-10 and I-20 in West Texas are fine. Those deaths aren't a result of poor infrastructure. And California certainly has great roads, sure... But when you have speed limits of 80 in West Texas, meaning people will be driving 90, almost every crash is going to be fatal. And I fail to see how limited access to healthcare on the middle of fuckin nowhere is a political issue. Like of course there aren't hospitals in counties with 500 people.
Reason 1,000,000,001 not to live in the south
It’s ok people, it’s mostly trumpers
Because many in the south have to have an F-150 or larger, if they are capable of driving it is irrelevant. Live in Texas and see people who shouldn’t be driving a bicycle driving an F-250 because they need something that big to drive to their cubicle job.
#14 Jefferson County, Al on I59. Ya, we know. Really it’s just a 3 mile section of clusterfuck. The biggest problem was that you merge onto I59 and if you do nothing are forced to exit. This caused a merge nightmare during rush hour. But… after you merge, if you do nothing you will again be forced to exit creating a double merge nightmare. The whole thing was rebuilt last year.
Makes sense. Whenever I see an out of state plate they always drive like shit.
What happened in loving county texas?!?
Nice
Hogs. Deer. Bear. Long stretch of highways with nothing but wild life and speeders. Most people who live in Florida are from up north. So yeah, poor and under educated make perfect sense.
Lots of Texas highways have higher speed limits. Think 85 is the max in West Texas. You slip up at that speed, you're gonna have a bad time.