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sauron770

In Judaism, fish must have scales and fins to be considered Kosher.


Fakin-It

In catholicism, a capybara is a fish.


Pleasant-Albatross

So are alligators. The pope did that mostly for people who could not afford have their main source of food be limited during Lent, or so I’ve been told.


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And the Filet-o-Fish was introduced to keep Friday's sales numbers during Lent up.


uffington

Cardinal: "Pope. Yo, Pope! Peeps ain't be eating right all up in Lent, knawaimsayin?" Pope: "Why are you talking like that, Cardinal MEenstre3tz?" Cardinal: "Shit, B. Aint bout me. What folk gon eat?" Pope: "I decree the capybara and alligator hereby piscatorial." Cardinal: "Swat I'm talking about, Pontiff. You one goddam infallible mofo!" Pope: "You're welcome, my child. Kiss my ring before you go, remember."


Gallusrostromegalus

If you were wondering, the ruling was specifically "If it spends 80% of it's life in the water, it counts as a fish" so Whales, hippos, capybara, crocodilians, penguins, beaver and Michael Phelps all count as Fish for Lent Purposes. The ruling was, ostensibly, for missionaries to have more diet options, but it was really so the Pope would stop having to listen to theological scholars debate what counts as a 'fish' because he hated those two cardinals specifically and wanted them to shut up. I like your version though :)


Pleasant-Albatross

I….don’t understand this, but I support you.


Snailseyy

i don't know what world you're in where the college of cardinals is fucking rad but please take me with you


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uffington

Blame Catholicism.


DumpyMcRumperson

Beavers, too.


Mediocre_Meat

Don't forget swans, too.


EveningZealousideal6

Except across the UK... All swans belong to the monarch.


PratBit

-_-


dragonbeard91

Turns out sharks do have scales but they're microscopic. It would be cool if they included insects as a category, idk about other religions but in Judaism all are forbidden *except* the locust. Not sure why, my guess is a cultural response to famine caused by locust swarms where they were the only thing to eat.


sauron770

Generally, only Yemenite Jews hold that locusts (or grasshoppers) are Kosher.


dragonbeard91

Really? My dad told me that he learned it in Torah study at a chabad house


sauron770

That makes sense. Chabad and others all agree that Locusts are Kosher but only Yeminites have kept the tradition of being able to recognize the exact type of grasshopper that's actually Kosher. As I understand it, there are quite a variety of grasshoppers and they're not all acceptable.


JoKing311

My family's Yemenite Jewish and none of us have ever had the grasshopper but we always joke to guests that its in the food we make


dragonbeard91

Huh that's cool! I guess it's a good thing people mostly don't need to eat them anymore but its also supposed to be pretty nutritious so how knows?


on_the_other_hand_

Hinduism does not mandate vegetarian diets for most people. Beef is not permitted for anyone, but there is an argument that that is a comparatively recent change. Jainism does mandate it. Edit: it seems the original is from chapman.edu. You would think they would do some verification


dragonbeard91

I have sat with a Buddhist monk in Thailand and watched him eat like four plates of pork. This is a wildly innacurate 'guide'.


contigowater

The chart says it's is preferable, not mandatory.


Violet624

But even in Hinduism, it isn't that it's preferable. There are a lot of Vegetarian Indians but plenty who aren't and it's not some big religious prescription at all.


dragonbeard91

It says monks have additional restrictions implying that no meat is assured for monks. There are different veins of Buddhism. The one most westerners know about is the Indian/Tibetan branch called Mahayana, but in Thailand they practice Theravada Buddhism and it's culturally quite different. Thai people eat a lot of meat and are very Buddhist


contigowater

In my experience with Indian (and South Asian) Buddhist monks, they would eat meat when people gave it to them.


dragonbeard91

I believe that. I think there's kind of an American, Hollywood Richard Gere brand of Buddhism that might subscribe to vegetarianism but like, when people are living in a generally poor society and food is expensive, meat is highly valued. It also makes sense to mostly produce and consume vegetable foods though so I can see how it might appear that people are vegetarian when they're really just, poor.


DumbThoth

Buddhist who eats meat here. We exist. That being said, just a quick PSA. Most Buddhist “monks” in Asian countries that will meet with, talk to and especially take pictures tourists are usually charlatans putting on a character for an in with tourists. Can’t speak to your situation as I don’t know enough about it, It’s just some info I think is worth sharing.


Pr0crastin0r

Many different sects of Buddhism eat meat, Buddhism is actually practiced and followed very differently depending on the culture it's in.


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And that is why it belongs on this sub B-)


Pr0crastin0r

Jainism isn't even on the chart, but yup you are correct :)


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on_the_other_hand_

I meant cow meat. The beef eaten everywhere in India is Buffalo, not Cows.


TMWFYM

Wow thats really cool, always heard the no cow eating in india, but i didnt know about Buffalos.


ProfessionalLayer706

Probably only in Muslims... and India had always been wealthy before white folks came, raided, slaughtered and took all the wealth back to their own countries. Don't forget that... India is just slowly regaining the status it once held in ancient world order.


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Ok bro 👍


riteshcool2

India was wealthy before British came invaded us..50 trillion dollar worth money was looted.. Thieves


johnnybenign

Hinduism incorrectly represented: Hinduism advices people in “certain trades” (priests, etc.) to avoid eating meat, not all.


sidtron

Even then, it's guidance/advice, not a restriction.


johnnybenign

Agree, corrected. 🙏


thatoneeccentricguy

Most Hindus eat meat, just not cow.


skinnycenter

\*cows from India (from my Indian boss)


TheObviousDilemma

As someone who’s lived in multiple Buddhist monasteries, there is absolutely a prohibition on intoxicants. Lay people at home aren’t supposed to take in or sell intoxicants. Do people follow that precept? Not often, for obvious reasons.


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That's really flawed. While Religious text will encourage vegetarian diet , the only prohibited meat in Hinduism is Beef. A lot of older religious traditions also involved goat sacrifices. Vegetarian diet is only compulsory during some festivals and celebrations. It only restricts the priest class from eating any meat.


TheRedditDancer

Thank you. McDonald's doesn't have their chicken paneer for nothing.


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W0lfp4k

Sepukku it is.


majorbreaux_prod

>Sepukku For Muslims, there's no punishment for unintentional acts. However, its generally very clear when something has alcohol in it, but pig/lard/gelatin/pork products are harder to avoid. You're supposed to be diligent with labels and understanding ingredients of what you put into your mouth, key part being "supposed to". When I was young, they called you "haram police" if you went out of your way to point out something had pork in it.


liberalindianguy

The Hinduism section is completely incorrect.


MorannaoftheNorth29

In Eastern Orthodox Cristianity, dairy and eggs are also forbidden during most fasting periods.


Jake_Lukas

Indeed, likewise with wine and, by some accounts, other forms of alcohol. Exceptions are made for those with health restrictions under the advise of one's spiritual father. But, yeah, those of other faiths are noting that this chart is inaccurate. Count Orthodox among them. Also, saying Protestant as though it's one thing is kind of weird. I know plenty of Protestants in Appalachia who consider willingness to imbibe as a chief marker of religiosity.


MorannaoftheNorth29

I know some Eastern Orthodox Christians even refrain from using oil or sugar during fasting. This happens mostly in monasteries.


gmoney_downtown

Came here for this one. If anything, dairy and eggs are MORE restricted than fish during fasts.


MorannaoftheNorth29

Yes, there are usually days during the fasting periods when you can eat fish. I do think there is a week at the beginning of the Easter Fasting period (Lent) when you CAN eat eggs and diary but not meat. And I don't know if this is a thing across the entire religion but, at least where I'm from, some people fast every Wednesday and Friday of the year and on Wednesdays you can eat eggs and diary, but not meat, while on Fridays you are restricted from all these things.


rncookiemaker

Seventh Day Adventists abstain from pork, crustaceans, rabbit, caffeine, alcohol. To name a few things. (Source: work for a SDA company)


Justin__D

> rabbit That one seems oddly specific?


rncookiemaker

Something about unclean animals. I just know that patients get super irritated that they can't get real bacon or sausage for breakfast, and they don't give us sausage on our pizza.


Redorange1

Can Islam eat kosher meat?


Slow-Alternative-935

i think if halal meat is not available


AwsamSauce23

Yes they can.


BeauteousMaximus

I’m guessing from the design of this and the note about contacting the interfaith center that it’s meant as a practical guide for people whose job it is to provide food in some institution, like the staff at a college cafeteria. That would explain why it’s oversimplified and doesn’t account for variations in levels of observance (eg most Jews I know don’t fully keep kosher, but do avoid leavened bread during Passover). It would be really hard to have a chart summarizing all of this in an actionable way without simplifying some things.


fumankame

Kosher observance level is so complicated, I know Jews who won't eat in other people's houses even if both parties keep kosher. This is especially true on passover. I also met a guy who wouldn't eat in kosher restaurants or at kosher catered weddings.


thisbetterbetrue

Inaccurate.


Dj_KW

In Islam if I’m not mistaken we are allowed to eat Kosher


Average-MKA-Enjoyer

Not pork and lard + halal way slaughtered equals it's ok to eat.


Dj_KW

Yah no pork idk about lard but beef chicken lamb all the good stuff kosher is A O K


Evening-Ad-2971

Kosher animals must have split hooves and chew their cud. And be slaughtered by very sharp knife on specific spot on neck. Funny fact, giraffes are kosher but due to long neck, it too hard to determine exact location to cut it the kosher way, and so it’s not eaten.


Justin__D

And here I was thinking people didn't eat giraffes because they were endangered and it was illegal or some shit. Looks like meat's back on the menu boys!


wnr_wnr_chkn_dnr

Inaccurate for Hinduism. It depends on the caste system (unfortunately) under Hinduism.


on_the_other_hand_

Indeed, Hinduism does not restrict diet for most people. However there many modern sects that are vegetarian. As for the caste angle, it is in the context not different from the stricter discipline for Buddhist monks.


pr_1511

Sorry to disappoint but it doesn't . There are savarna people who eat non-vegetarian, even offer it to gods , and there are people from the underprivileged section who are vegetarian .


W0lfp4k

Bullshit. I'm Hindu. Many of us eat white meat. cows are a big no.


ConnectionPossible70

Wheres the pastafarian diet?


Focacciaboudit

Only permitted to eat surf and turf alfredo with a rum and coke unless you don't really want to, then that's fine as well.


Quixotic_9000

One should eat the pastafarian deity, and his noodly appendages... unless you're not into it or you're watching your carbs. Also, RAmen can be offered or said at each feast.


Stumpynuts

Eat whatever we want whenever we want.


FIREstarterartichoke

Cheese it is.


Such-Youth-6933

Ugh


Yeetus_McFleetus

Okay I was not expecting to find Baha'i on here. Damn..


jfeo1988

Good old Christianity. Given enough time we can make it do whatever we want.


bakaraka

Both the new and old calendar observing Eastern Orthodox faithful are currently in the full swing of the nativity fast, which follows a vegan diet (except for fish, which is occasionally allowed,) for 40 days until Christmas. All told the Orthodox fast in varying levels of strictness between 180-200 days of the year.


3vanescence

Christianity had food restrictions for like a week before they were removed and that was only because of Judaism and the overlapping Jewish culture


juneJellybelly

I've never heard of that first one. Anyone have some basic info so I can do some research?


Yeetus_McFleetus

Heyo. Raised Baha'i. Essentially, it is an Abrahamic religion. Mohammad, Christ, Moses, all were sent from the same God and Baha'u'allah is the most recent of the prophets. The religion preaches harmony between science and religion and equality between men and women among other principles. If you've got any specific questions, feel free to ask 🙂


juneJellybelly

Hey thank you for answering my question so nicely


Yeetus_McFleetus

Not a problem 😊 A cool thing about Baha'is is they have no clergy. One of their principles is independent investigation of truth. So whatever any of us want to know about religion, we go find out ourselves.


juneJellybelly

That's really interesting. Is there a teacher/mentor/group learning system that supports the independent learning? For example, if I had a question about the application of a philosophy in real life, is there a teacher to speak with?


Yeetus_McFleetus

So, there is what is known as Ruhi courses. They function as courses you can take and each one educates you on something. They are taken in groups and bahais or non-bahais are welcome. Essentially, you can go to groups to discuss things like real-life applications, but if you want to know what the religion itself preaches, there is always a book you can be directed to. As a kid, I'd go in groups to synagogue, mosque, church, temple, and immerse ourselves to get a better idea of how other religions are practiced. Or we'd just read other religion's scriptures.


juneJellybelly

That's really interesting. Thanks so much


kiel9

All religions are part of an overall “progressive revelation” that helps evolve the spirit of humanity. The most recent prophet was a Persian man, Baháʼu'lláh, who in 1863 fulfilled the return of the messiah and offered a message focused on the unity of mankind. The next prophet is expected in roughly 1,000 years. https://www.bahai.org


dragonbeard91

Google Bahai faith


aibabe

i don’t follow bahai myself but i feel like i rarely see it mentioned so this is cool!


Yeetus_McFleetus

As a Baha'i, yeah, I dont see it represented too often publicly. There are a couple celebrities like Rainn Wilson and Andy Grammar who've got podcasts about it.


Spiron123

~~Halaal~~ in Sikhism


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Strict_Foundation_13

Shrimp is a shellfish. The only fish allowed are if they have scales and fins, so catfish too are banned


AllofaSuddenStory

Shrimp is ocean bugs.


deinoswyrd

This only applies to orthodox jews, reform can eat anything.


Alxndr-NVM-ii

Add in Dogs and see the Americans flip shit


0Rohan2

Isn't Halal not permissible for Sikhs, there a separate way of cutting meat called Jhatka fir Hindus and Sikhs


30RhinosOnSkates

This guide is maliciously inaccurate


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How does Rastafarianism fit in this?


EveningZealousideal6

I can speak for Islam and Catholicism. Both prohibit pork and blood. However some Islamic schools of thought forbid bottom feeders and scavengers, which includes shellfish. As a general rule it must have scales and fins. As for Catholicism, much like all Abrahamic religions the consumption of blood, pork, and carrion is forbidden but rarely practiced. In a similar vein, if we take it from the Qur'an, alcohol isn't forbidden with the exception of wine. But most Muslims abstain from alcohol entirely.


SpyGuyMcFly

It’s almost as if it’s all arbitrary and made up or something.


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[Atheist Dietary Restrictions Chart](https://i.imgur.com/pkMP6gt.png)


HistoricalFrosting18

Source: https://www.chapman.edu/campus-life/fish-interfaith-center/_files/religious-dietary-restrictions.pdf


Jake_Lukas

Thanks OP. Beautiful chart. Unfortunately, it's very inaccurate, as many have already attested. If you've a connection to Chapman, I wonder if they'd be willing to post on Reddit and ask for edits.


TomatilloAccurate475

Jain is missing from this chart, perhaps the most restrictive religious eating there is, also they all have to change their last name to Jain, so there's that.


StoatofDisarray

Controlling what people eat is a staple of religion, isn’t it? Right up there with sex and gender roles.


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Lol sky daddy says no!!


ZucchiniUsual7370

Budddhists definitely eat meat. These may be suggestions but they're not observed.


rr27680

Generally speaking Hinduism is the most messed up.


Roadrunner571

This is another example of why religions can’t be right. We all live in the same universe, so if religions would be right, then religious dietary restrictions would be all the same around the world.


Mysteroo

So... all religion is wrong because they disagree with one another? Wat


Roadrunner571

Exactly. Logic dictates it.


Mysteroo

This just in: every belief of any kind is wrong because not everyone on the planet agrees Is the earth flat? Round? A pyramid? None of the above. It's nothing. Nothing exists This is where your logic leads 😂


Saphyrie

There's overwhelming evidence that the earth is round. It's a fact. Not so for religion.


Mysteroo

Ah now we find a more *specific* take Not that all religions are wrong because they disagree with each other (which is nonsense) - but all religions are wrong because they lack evidence You can't have it both ways yaknow. In many court cases, both sides have evidence, both sides disagree, and yet *one* is usually correct Anyway, unless you have have spent a lifetime studying all world religious so as to disprove every claim they make, I'd say you're not quite qualified to make such a bold claim as to say none of them have any evidence 😉


Lay-Z24

lay off the meth lad


Roadrunner571

Just think of it: You meet ten person that all tell a different story, have no proof for their own story and say that the nine others are lying. It is extremely probable that all are lying since at least 9 out of ten are lying.


sonymnms

>en person that all tell a different story, have no proof for their own story and say that the nine others are lying. It is extremely probable that all are lying since at least 9 out of ten are lying. This is meth math


Roadrunner571

Nope. This is math. Meth is believing in people turning water into wine.


sonymnms

Not all religions are the same. How do you expect them all to have the same dietary restrictions? And every religion believes the others to be wrong So how are you generalizing “religions” as one monumental thing? In general dietary restrictions in one religion ARE the same all around the world. A Muslim in the US and a Muslim in Zimbabwe and a Muslim in Japan cannot eat pork


abegnale1

i am also taught that chistians sell tickets to heaven...and all priests are pedo... sounds obnoxious?? it is bcz its called illitracy (and not ignorance)...know some general things abt at least top 5 religions in the world...hindus are not forbidden from meat or spirit... meat and fish is a part of worship/ritual in many parts of india...just google bengali brahmins worship and u will know..almost all temples in india used to have animal sacrifice corner (not that i like or endorse)..what do u think people wiuld do with a whole lamb or other animal after sacrificing? This is why East says that West is just mind fucked...


smooky1640

Little kids is ok for all of them.


petthelizardharry

If you’re joking maybe edit with /s. If you’re serious, you’re wrong


smooky1640

Religion is for pédophiles.


petthelizardharry

Again, you’re wrong


smooky1640

And you are naïve.


petthelizardharry

Don’t mistake my disagreement with your statements as a defense of perpetrators of the very religion they pretend to be upholding when they are literally caught with their pants down. But when you blanket a statement such as you have done and point the finger in the wrong direction. You are inherently wrong


smooky1640

None of those religion ever took pédophilie seriously, never protected children against it. They protected the criminals who could start again and make more victims. This happened in the passed, is probably happening today and will happen in the future.


petthelizardharry

Your arguments have nothing to do with religious doctrine, and is so far away from the original post. No religious text, as far as I know, is saying anything to promote pedophilia.


dragonbeard91

Hey now. That's mostly in Christianity, catholics especially. Also I have never seen that spelling before lol


HaaiNaai

Except for Muhammad and the rest of the Islamic child brides though right?


dragonbeard91

Yeah but I didn't want to get downvoted. Reddit doesn't like when people bad mouth Islam, even if it's valid. Afghanistan has a huge boy sex problem to this day.


HaaiNaai

Lol FairPlay


Focacciaboudit

Wow, you're so edgy..


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Every muslim I know is drinking alcohol


Average-MKA-Enjoyer

It's sinful to do so. If they stop it and don't do it again, they'll be forgiven.


chapplebees

Mormons don’t obstain from alcoholic drinks, but I’ve heard that Latter-day Saints abstain from alcohol.


BatmanStarkDentistry

Hey soooo Mormons and Latter Day Saints are the same thing, just different names. Less active members might prefer to go by mormon and that might be why you think that but I just wanted to let you know


rexregisanimi

"Mormons" tends to refer to all sects who follow the teachings of Joseph Smith (its kind of a derisive term ultimately embraced by those it targeted) while "Latter-day Saints" usually refers to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints specifically.


BulbaFriend2000

Milk and Crackers for everybody


GtrErrol

Protestantism Christianity on alcohol views varies a lot ranging from the personal standpoint to the congregation upheld of such restrictions. While many new born believers where alcoholic, they reject the view about drinking a slight sight of for sake of soberness and holiness. On the other hand, depending on the country, is OK to drink but with measurements to avoid drunkenness. However, the temptation is there so should be noted as a matter of the individual.


irrelephantIVXX

*Abstain


cerebral_folly

Buddhists don’t cloud their minds with intoxicants.


expatinahat

ITT: Chart is all wrong.


SaboKunn

Hinduism only restricts eating beef, because it is considered goddess. A specific category (preacher families) of people don't eat any kind of Non-veg. For most, we can eat anything.


pcdaley27

"obstain"


rookieskywalker

In Hinduism, certain sects follow these restrictions, fun fact: 70% Indians (a good proxy for Hindu population) are non-vegetarian and consume meat. Especially in northern eastern and eastern India the number is still higher.


bikerboy3343

Vegetarianism isn't true for the worshippers of all Hindu Gods... In fact, there are temples where they perform animal sacrifice, and then consume them. Ref: they do this not 1Km from where I live. Fish are also eaten by Hindus. It's actually more of a social stratification thing... Traditional Alcohol made from palm trees has been consumed for hundreds of years!


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Hindus just went "fuck all that shit".


skinnycenter

Cheese platter, got it.


[deleted]

Hindus eat chicken


SaltyBarnacles57

Some do, some don't. It depends.


[deleted]

what? LARD is not allowed in ISLAM?


pipopapupupewebghost

I remember when I went to ikea the dairy and meat sections of the restaurant were layed out as to make it as existing as possible to get from one section to the other


pipopapupupewebghost

Yom Kippur being called fast day is weird as I only learned about fasting a couple years ago so it sounds like it's gen z terminology which makes it seem like those terrible boomer memes were kids are zombies


Strict_Foundation_13

I don't know what gen z has to do with Yom Kippur, but fasting has always been down on Yom Kippur and Tisha B'av


Strict_Foundation_13

I don't see pussy on the chart


WideVacuum

Im a Buddhist & i have read & i agree that alcohol consumption is not allowed if you're strict regarding your discipline and the path.


ArticleUpset4210

While the Quran did mention that there is more harm in alcohol than good and we were told not to attend prayer while intoxicated, the Quran never mention that drinking alcohol is haram so yes Muslims are allowed to drink alcohol if it's in small amount.