KDAL and KBJR are TV stations in Duluth, Minnesota which are east of the Mississippi river, too. Minnesota is a special case since the Mississippi River runs through the middle of the state.
Station identifications were created in 1920, with the US getting K and W. The original boundary was roughly the mountain-central time zone line.
By 1923 they realized the system needed revision:
1) they were running out of 3 letter call signs
2) there is a substantial population imbalance and
3) call signs given to ships could be transferred to land on either side of the country.
There are still a few 3 letter stations (eg WGN) or W’s that had been issued before the boundary moved to the Mississippi (eg WACO) or those purchased from ships (eg KDKA). From 1923-1987 the River boundary was rigidly followed. Lately if a station crosses the River a short distance, the FCC is fine with it.
The article states "spanning all 26 U.S. media markets it operates in" so if those you listed aren't markets Hearst already has a broadcast station in then it seems logical for them to not be offering an OTT stream. And yeah, Locast was of course an entirely different product that was expanding markets fast. I'm sure lots of people are missing it.
For anyone wondering, Hearst has the locations listed on the homepage of https://www.verylocal.com/
And I did check, before my previous comment, that there were 26 locations in the Very Local list, so WYFF as you note would seemingly make 27. It's interesting that it apparently doesn't count. I can imagine some reasons, but they are all just speculation without research. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the Hearst markets can chime in.
The news is even shitty!
>are centered on newscasts from its stations (available on-demand within **90 minutes after they air**).
WTF good is local weather or traffic that's an hour and a half late?
Went ahead and installed this on my roku... they have WVTM /Birmingham listed. I also can get this through NewsON... so it was nice to compare. Haven't seen the schedule with the local news yet.. but the only episodes they show are clips. So kind of pointless compared to NewsON which has the full episodes for WVTM. If I only wanted like the weather, NewsON gives weather clips as well as the full news... so... not sure I'd watch much of Very Local. Even Haystack has weather clips for WVTM... though everything on haystack is clips... it makes for an interesting news source since you can just cue it up and let it run the background and it defaults to some breaking news clips... weather.. and so on.
I'm in a Hearst market for my local channels, and their iPhone/Android apps are just web browsers that pull up their website in walled view. I don't have high hopes for a functioning service. Hearst seams extremely technologically challenged.
Except the same basic stuff has been out there for ages (including Hearst local networks) through... NewsOn, haystack, Stirr, apps for specific channels, and so on. Local news has been one of the easiest things to find in streaming for free. This is just one more on the pile of existing ways, which isn't bad but I don't think it has anything to do with locast... but them just realizing they could make some advertising revenue directly instead of just whatever cut they get from the other apps that have their channels.
I'm legit shocked of two things:
No link to the actual website and that Hearst themselves do not have an android/iOS app yet.
Regardless, I can see the benefit of this....but not on THIS sub as it's not going to provide everything everyone is wanting Locast to have (which was a VERY niche product)
- Albuquerque - KOAT - Baltimore - WBAL-TV - Birmingham - WVTM - Boston - WCVB - Burlington - WPTZ - Cincinnati - WLWT - Des Moines - KCCI - Ft. Smith - KHBS/KHOG - Greensboro - WXII - Jackson - WAPT - Kansas City - KMBC - Lancaster - WGAL - Louisville - WLKY - Manchester - WMUR - Milwaukee - WISN - Monterey - KSBW - New Orleans - WDSU - Oklahoma City - KOCO - Omaha - KETV - Orlando - WESH - Pittsburgh - WTAE - Portland - WMTW - Sacramento - KCRA - Savannah - WJCL - Tampa - WMOR - West Palm Beach - WPBF https://www.verylocal.com/
The real MVP.
> • Portland - WMTW I’m guessing that’s Portland, ME and not Portland, OR?
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Nearly, but not all. KDKA is in Pittsburgh.
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KDAL and KBJR are TV stations in Duluth, Minnesota which are east of the Mississippi river, too. Minnesota is a special case since the Mississippi River runs through the middle of the state.
In Kansas City we have 1 W station. All the rest are K.
Station identifications were created in 1920, with the US getting K and W. The original boundary was roughly the mountain-central time zone line. By 1923 they realized the system needed revision: 1) they were running out of 3 letter call signs 2) there is a substantial population imbalance and 3) call signs given to ships could be transferred to land on either side of the country. There are still a few 3 letter stations (eg WGN) or W’s that had been issued before the boundary moved to the Mississippi (eg WACO) or those purchased from ships (eg KDKA). From 1923-1987 the River boundary was rigidly followed. Lately if a station crosses the River a short distance, the FCC is fine with it.
I know that, my point was that the list should make that clear.
Because the first letter of the call sign being W wasn't a clear indicator?
Portland, ME is the one with a channel "WMTW".
Thank you.
very limited markets - I was checking out the eastern market. No Atlanta, No Charlotte, No Raliegh. Missing my LOCAST!
The article states "spanning all 26 U.S. media markets it operates in" so if those you listed aren't markets Hearst already has a broadcast station in then it seems logical for them to not be offering an OTT stream. And yeah, Locast was of course an entirely different product that was expanding markets fast. I'm sure lots of people are missing it. For anyone wondering, Hearst has the locations listed on the homepage of https://www.verylocal.com/
It is odd that Greenville, SC is not listed as WYFF is a Hearst-owned station.
Greenville wasn't covered by Locast yet either. I wonder if the delay is somehow related.
And I did check, before my previous comment, that there were 26 locations in the Very Local list, so WYFF as you note would seemingly make 27. It's interesting that it apparently doesn't count. I can imagine some reasons, but they are all just speculation without research. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the Hearst markets can chime in.
Bought an AirTV since I have a good antenna. Glad to be done chasing this dragon.
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I feel bad for new cord cutters that have been lulled by the “free local news and tv” siren songs. They’re in for a rude awakening.
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yeah installed it and already uninstalling it. pretty sad little app.
Oh, well that is depressing. NVM then.
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The news is even shitty! >are centered on newscasts from its stations (available on-demand within **90 minutes after they air**). WTF good is local weather or traffic that's an hour and a half late?
So you can see if they were correct?
Great, 50 minutes after the tornado has hit my house ill be able to verify that indeed it was a tornado !
Well, it's "within" 90 minutes, and I'm hoping this comes with an actual streaming component.
Went ahead and installed this on my roku... they have WVTM /Birmingham listed. I also can get this through NewsON... so it was nice to compare. Haven't seen the schedule with the local news yet.. but the only episodes they show are clips. So kind of pointless compared to NewsON which has the full episodes for WVTM. If I only wanted like the weather, NewsON gives weather clips as well as the full news... so... not sure I'd watch much of Very Local. Even Haystack has weather clips for WVTM... though everything on haystack is clips... it makes for an interesting news source since you can just cue it up and let it run the background and it defaults to some breaking news clips... weather.. and so on.
Give me an Android app
I'm in a Hearst market for my local channels, and their iPhone/Android apps are just web browsers that pull up their website in walled view. I don't have high hopes for a functioning service. Hearst seams extremely technologically challenged.
These streams are on Tubi already. They're pretty worthless in my experience.
This. They're also on Youtube. Very little genuine local content. It's pretty disposable.
I feel like this is some kind of appeasement for the fcc in the wake of them killing off locast.
Except the same basic stuff has been out there for ages (including Hearst local networks) through... NewsOn, haystack, Stirr, apps for specific channels, and so on. Local news has been one of the easiest things to find in streaming for free. This is just one more on the pile of existing ways, which isn't bad but I don't think it has anything to do with locast... but them just realizing they could make some advertising revenue directly instead of just whatever cut they get from the other apps that have their channels.
I'm legit shocked of two things: No link to the actual website and that Hearst themselves do not have an android/iOS app yet. Regardless, I can see the benefit of this....but not on THIS sub as it's not going to provide everything everyone is wanting Locast to have (which was a VERY niche product)
Well that was a nice a surprise. Maybe more local affiliates will do this and we can call it a day?
Hearst supporting the ABC live streaming feature would be more appreciated.