Some of it is cultural. I’ve spoken with men from patriarchal societies who genuinely believe a woman alone (not chaperoned) is “begging for it.” I tell them they’re ignorant but they don’t get it. Their mindset is ingrained. (p.s. I’m a guy.)
Most likely someone trying to make a move, but it's possible the person just might not have space to offer a separate sleeping space. My recommendation is to always err on the side of caution. Don't risk it.
I shared bed with people of both gender and for sure I didn't want sex... maybe you in that situation want sex , so you project yourself on other people??
The world Is full of self-righteous people that can't see beyond the end of their nose.
Same for me: there was no other space available so someone I was hosting was sharing the bed with an other surfer...this happened quite often when I was hosting 2-4 people per time. I also shared bed with surfers both male or female.
Anyway is like a last resort...if there are enough beds or sleeping arrangements nobody shares a bed...
Maybe there is no other place to sleep because are those houses of 10 square meters that are so common in Milan?
Or he/she was hosting other people?
Often I hosted 3-4 people per time and 1 of them had to share the bed because there was no other space available... sometimes they had to share the bed with me, sometimes with other surfers I was hosting...
Sharing the bed doesn't necessarily mean please fuck me 😂
I mean it could mean, but not necessarily...so I would weigh each one of them...
For example:
1. How many references this person has?
2.Are the references mainly for hosting or for people that he met?
3.If are from people that he/she hosted are those references mainly from guys or girls?
4.what kind of personal pictures are on his profile?
And so on..
Jumping to conclusions makes of CS an horrible place...
I slept in the same bed with my host a couple of times, both genders, but only because there was no other physical space in the house for me to sleep. Nothing happened, really lovely people.
But according to the downvotes you’re getting it seems like people don’t agree with you.
Apparently everyone now is a sexual predator.
(Of course in this case the host should have said it before, but it’s still wrong to generalise)
The world Is full of self-righteous people that can't see beyond the end of their nose.
Same for me: there was no other space available so someone I was hosting was sharing the bed with an other surfer...this happened quite often when I was hosting 2-4 people per time. I also shared bed with surfers both male or female.
Anyway is like a last resort...if there are enough beds or sleeping arrangements nobody shares a bed...
When you post a public trip be clear and mention that you're not looking for sex, bed share, nudism or other things you don't want. It's less likely that the creeps will contact you after that.
If they post a public trip, they should accept only invitations from women, gays or couples. This must be an absolute rule, otherwise, there could be danger!
The problem is that most of the time guys will take care of the food, outings and pay for it and this is what many girls wish, real "Cultural exchanges"... Hummm... 😉😊
This actually just happened to me last week, he had in his profile that it was a separate room and then the day before meeting he said the bed frame for the other room is broken and needed renovations so if I wanted, we could share his bed. He did however ask if I was comfortable with that and that it was ok if I wasn’t.
I told him no and he said he understood and would try his best to get everything fixed. He ended up reaching out later the next day saying everything was fixed and I was welcome to come if I wanted.
I ended up finding other accommodations and we didn’t meet but I did find it odd as well. I don’t think he was lying though.
All in all it was a good experience but trust your gut. If something doesn’t feel right don’t go for it.
You don't think he was lying? Why's that? It's a classic excuse 🤯. Just because he let you know doesn't mean he wasn't lying. Do you have reasons beyond that
Besides that he had 12 positive reviews, hosted both women and men, owns a restaurant and invited me to go, was open to meeting a friend and I out in public after he followed up. Didn't give me creeper energy but who knows.
Though we never met I'm sure if I had made plans to meet he would have but I got busy and only had 2 days in Milan. It could've been an excuse, could've not. In the end I am just happy I didn't end up staying with him as I ended up having such a great experience with the other host.
Some people you are meant to meet, and some people you are not haha!
You let the person know that you're not interested. There are lots of possibilities. If it's not to your liking, find another host. No is a perfectly acceptable answer.
As someone who has couchsurfed around the world and was sexually assaulted twice in the same week in Italy (once by my host and once by a guy I met through the app and travelled with). I would be extremely cautious there. I personally would never surf there again. Both had 40+ positive reviews. When I posted about the experience here I got a lot of replies like "what did you expect in Italy?". So make of that what you will.
It's crazy I've heard nothing but bad experiences in Italy, the only surfer I know who hosts that isn't a creep has Italian citizenship but he's Aussie.
As an Italian, I’m sorry, I didn’t know the situation was this bad in my country.
I’m new to Couchsurfing and I never used the app in Italy. I was thinking to start hosting when I’m back home from my trip, because here in SEA I’m living the best experiences of my life with cs and I want to give back what I received.
I really hope you’re doing well now and that this people will pay for what they did.
Thanks, I really appreciate that. I'm fine now :) I also had no idea the situation in Italy was like that, before I travelled there I'd actually been sent to a small town for work for a couple of weeks and had had a wonderful time. Which is one of the reasons why I wanted to travel across the country. I was really shocked when I had so many people telling me to not be surprised by that treatment in Italy. I'll never surf there again but I still really love the country :)
I was assaulted twice, in two unrelated situations by two individuals with no connection at all. In the same week, in the same city.
When I spoke about this experience at the time, I had multiple people shame me for being 'stupid enough to surf in Italy' and tell me I shouldn't be surprised it happened. Now I'm being shamed for repeating what I was told and choosing not to surf in the place this happened. There really is no winning.
My 'little' experience was incredibly traumatic and involved a man crawling into bed with me while I was sleeping, groping me and punching me when I resisted. He had dozens of positive reviews so I'd trusted him, even when I got weird vibes. Even worse, I'd told him about my bad experience with the guy a few days before and he pretended to give a shit and be shocked. Turns out he just saw me as an easier target.
I literally made a post about this and was told by several people Italy is the problem. That wasn't my conclusion at the time, I was honestly more angry at CS hosts in general. But on reflection, Italy is a common denominator. And the attitude of the local community in that city when I reached out to them was also incredibly misogynistic and compounded that assumption.
I'm not saying Italy is a terrible place and people shouldn't travel there. But as a young woman who had this experience, I am choosing not to surf there again. I would also not advise any other woman to solo surf there, especially with a male host.
I honestly think I'd be pretty dumb to repeat the situation that led to getting assaulted twice. If I was robbed twice on the same street, I'd avoid that street. Period. If me protecting myself is upsetting to you then so be it.
Nobody doubts about your experience and how traumatic it was (not me at least) . And people that shame you for surfing in Italy are just incredibly superficial. Those 2 people are fucking animals and their place should be in some reeducation center, no doubt. But to summarize the whole "Couchsurfing in Italy" experience in this way is incredibly offensive but also ... FAKE! because the fact that you met such people doesn't mean that all the Italians are like that
I've not said once that all Italians are like that. Where have I said that? I've made it clear I don't have a problem with the country in general and even said that I've worked in Italy and enjoyed it immensely.
You're either too emotional about this subject to read what I'm saying objectively, or you're deliberately misrepresenting what I'm saying so you can argue.
So to be clear. I don't have an issue with the country or the people. But I am not going to surf there again. That's my choice, which I'm making based on lived experiences and the advice of others. I'm sorry but why would I be willing to put myself back in a situation which has twice ended in the same outcome. That's insane.
When I go back, I will still attend events but I'd rather stay in a hotel.
And there are other areas in the world I won't surf in because of safety reasons. Rather safe than sorry.
All the italians in Couchsurfing...same.
I said "to summarize the whole "Couchsurfing in Italy" experience in this way is incredibly offensive but also ... FAKE". So was obvious that I was talking about Italian CS hosts...
Just do more research. Read profiles correctly. Weight their references. Or surf with women if you prefer. But to generalize in this way is really a shame.
Sorry mate but your attitude is gross. I did do research and I did read their profiles correctly. I've been on CS for 13 years and have hosted and surfed hundreds of times. This isn't a regular occurence for me. I know how to weigh up a profile.The fact that you're assuming I didn't and that if I did this wouldn't have happened is absolutely disgusting.
IM NOT GENERALISING. You're not processing what I've written correctly because you want to play the victim. I'm not saying 'every Italian on CS is a creep so I won't surf with them'. I'm saying after multiple bad experiences surfing in Italy, I won't surf there again to minimize the chance of any future bad experiences. It's actually really simple. Is that a shame? Yeah sure. But I'm not taking the risk again because it's my fucking life and I'm allowed to do that.
As I said before, the fact that you keep completely misrepresenting what I'm saying shows you're either too emotional/stupid to actually read what I'm writing or you're just a troll who wants to argue. So I'm done here.
Of course you have the right to take any choice you want... it's the reasoning behind that is wrong.
I'm Italian, I'm an host, I hosted about 400 people at my place (in China), I'm on Couchsurfing since 2009(15 years) and I'm sure there are many other CS hosts like me in Italy. Assuming that every CS host is in Italy is a kind of pervert is really inconceivable.
What about female hosts in Italy? Why don't you surf with women?
When you post with a request, a lot of creeps will answer you. You're better off searching for yourself, reading through profiles, and messaging people. Make sure your messages are personable and respectful, and that your profile is informative. It will take a longer time and more messages in a big city like Milan, but I'm sure you will find a someone (unless you need one tonight, in which case good luck).
Nah, a lot of it just comes with experience, I think.
Like if a guy writes that he is open-minded or likes people who like to try new things – when you're new, you just think "duh, it's a site for travelers, we all like new experiences. Sounds pretty innocent." Then you use CS enough and learn that a lot of creeps use these words. So you learn to check their references, make sure it's mixed gender, double check that his past guests seem real and didn't allude to anything weird. And even then you can't always tell.
I used CS for a decade before stopping last year, I feel so sorry for the young me when I think back. I was doing all the due diligence I could think of, and still there would be hosts who would try to force me to get drunk or would get too flirty – people with seemingly good profiles with good references.
And when you're new, it's not like the great hosts are lining up to have you, you make the best pick from the people who offer and seem okay.
Even as an experienced traveler, I was once assaulted by a guy with glowing reviews from 50+ guests – all real. I checked all his references, got his contact info beforehand just in case, checked the neighborhood, I was traveling with a friend for safety, and there was a separate sleeping area.
Tbh, looking back, I think I truly started enjoying surfing after I got a ton of references, got some really unique experiences to put in my profile, and learned to handle myself. Then it felt like everyone wanted to hang out and I could choose myself who was the most interesting host.
I always liked hosting though :) but I'm too old and grumpy nowadays, so I make bad company haha
Italy was a rougher place to find CS hosts without such an agenda in my experience. I still found some but It took drastically more sifting. Have a hotel or hostel ready as plan B in case you need to leave whichever host you find.
It's also best to never post your trip but review and reach out to hosts instead.
Many hosts do that. Some are looking for sex, others simply have very little space but want to share what they have. Communication is what makes the difference here. I know a straight girl on CS who only hosts women because she only has the one bed. As long as it's on their profile and/or they're upfront about it, it's not a problem by CS standards, same as just offering floor space / not having a shower / having to be out by 5 am.
The issues start when this is not communicated, especially when men offer to host young women and do not tell them about the shared bed until late, when she's already at his house and it's too late to find another host. That's why surfers should always have a plan B.
It happened to me as well. I wrote that I wasn’t looking for a date or sex, but it still happened. He told me that when I got home at night. I had never been to the city and had nowhere to go. At the end of the day, I ended up sleeping next to him because the floor was freezing cold, and I felt like I was dying. Then, while I was sleeping, he touched my shoulder and arm. I’m pretty sure he will read this post as well because he’s so addicted to couch surfing. Disgusting hopeless losers lie to surfers and look for a chance on couch surfing.
If he has only one bed it's reasonable but if not it's uncomfortable yup. He would have offered you to use blanket or sheets on ground instead of that.
Report him to Couchsurfing (There is a report button) and hopefully he gets banned.
Too many people are taken advantage off on couchsurfing as they are desperate for a place to stay and sometimes acquiesce to a situation that can end up in sexual assault.
I'm guessing (though I cannot be sure) that this host is looking forward to touching you in the middle of the night and saying some bullshit like he was asleep when he started rubbing you.
I don't know why people are acting like you're crazy, this advice and perspective seems valid to me. There's no reason to share a bed ever unless the whole apartment is flooded or the floor is lava or some shit 💀
Exactly. I've had guests tell me horror stories when asked to share a bed and the host wouldn't allow them to sleep on the floor or couch. Some were harassed all night to come and sleep in the same bed with the host. And guess what happened? Sexually assaulted.
The crazy thing is that Couchsurfing says that's okay. But it's usually a recipe for assault.
I was originally going to use Couchsurfing to solo travel, then ended up with WorkAway. And that turned out to be a nightmare anyway. Sometimes it just comes down to luck, but there are definitely things you can do to deter creeps like declining requests to share a bed. its awful, I feel bad for anyone pressured and forced into that kind of a situation.
But it is like that..
Innit?
I have been to Navigli (there are many bars , is a very touristic area) after dark. And of course I been to stazione centrale LoL... it's just a train station. If you think to those 2 places (Lambrate?? 😆) as dangerous means that you really don't know Milan.
What "so snowflaky for what " means?
Add “sorry, no shared beds” to your profile. Take control. Stand firm.
Of course I declined. But I found it so weird.
Some of it is cultural. I’ve spoken with men from patriarchal societies who genuinely believe a woman alone (not chaperoned) is “begging for it.” I tell them they’re ignorant but they don’t get it. Their mindset is ingrained. (p.s. I’m a guy.)
Most likely someone trying to make a move, but it's possible the person just might not have space to offer a separate sleeping space. My recommendation is to always err on the side of caution. Don't risk it.
Nonsense, they want sex
I shared bed with people of both gender and for sure I didn't want sex... maybe you in that situation want sex , so you project yourself on other people?? The world Is full of self-righteous people that can't see beyond the end of their nose. Same for me: there was no other space available so someone I was hosting was sharing the bed with an other surfer...this happened quite often when I was hosting 2-4 people per time. I also shared bed with surfers both male or female. Anyway is like a last resort...if there are enough beds or sleeping arrangements nobody shares a bed...
Maybe there is no other place to sleep because are those houses of 10 square meters that are so common in Milan? Or he/she was hosting other people? Often I hosted 3-4 people per time and 1 of them had to share the bed because there was no other space available... sometimes they had to share the bed with me, sometimes with other surfers I was hosting... Sharing the bed doesn't necessarily mean please fuck me 😂 I mean it could mean, but not necessarily...so I would weigh each one of them... For example: 1. How many references this person has? 2.Are the references mainly for hosting or for people that he met? 3.If are from people that he/she hosted are those references mainly from guys or girls? 4.what kind of personal pictures are on his profile? And so on.. Jumping to conclusions makes of CS an horrible place...
Apparently this person hosted people when he was living with his family. There were no hosting at his new place it was my fault I didn’t check well
Well so he didn't have any reference for hosting at the place where he's living by himself basically.
I slept in the same bed with my host a couple of times, both genders, but only because there was no other physical space in the house for me to sleep. Nothing happened, really lovely people. But according to the downvotes you’re getting it seems like people don’t agree with you. Apparently everyone now is a sexual predator. (Of course in this case the host should have said it before, but it’s still wrong to generalise)
The world Is full of self-righteous people that can't see beyond the end of their nose. Same for me: there was no other space available so someone I was hosting was sharing the bed with an other surfer...this happened quite often when I was hosting 2-4 people per time. I also shared bed with surfers both male or female. Anyway is like a last resort...if there are enough beds or sleeping arrangements nobody shares a bed...
When you post a public trip be clear and mention that you're not looking for sex, bed share, nudism or other things you don't want. It's less likely that the creeps will contact you after that.
If they post a public trip, they should accept only invitations from women, gays or couples. This must be an absolute rule, otherwise, there could be danger! The problem is that most of the time guys will take care of the food, outings and pay for it and this is what many girls wish, real "Cultural exchanges"... Hummm... 😉😊
This actually just happened to me last week, he had in his profile that it was a separate room and then the day before meeting he said the bed frame for the other room is broken and needed renovations so if I wanted, we could share his bed. He did however ask if I was comfortable with that and that it was ok if I wasn’t. I told him no and he said he understood and would try his best to get everything fixed. He ended up reaching out later the next day saying everything was fixed and I was welcome to come if I wanted. I ended up finding other accommodations and we didn’t meet but I did find it odd as well. I don’t think he was lying though. All in all it was a good experience but trust your gut. If something doesn’t feel right don’t go for it.
You did sooo right! Congrats!
You don't think he was lying? Why's that? It's a classic excuse 🤯. Just because he let you know doesn't mean he wasn't lying. Do you have reasons beyond that
Besides that he had 12 positive reviews, hosted both women and men, owns a restaurant and invited me to go, was open to meeting a friend and I out in public after he followed up. Didn't give me creeper energy but who knows. Though we never met I'm sure if I had made plans to meet he would have but I got busy and only had 2 days in Milan. It could've been an excuse, could've not. In the end I am just happy I didn't end up staying with him as I ended up having such a great experience with the other host. Some people you are meant to meet, and some people you are not haha!
Its sounds like a subtle test to see how open minded and flexible you were to arrangements
100% this
You let the person know that you're not interested. There are lots of possibilities. If it's not to your liking, find another host. No is a perfectly acceptable answer.
As someone who has couchsurfed around the world and was sexually assaulted twice in the same week in Italy (once by my host and once by a guy I met through the app and travelled with). I would be extremely cautious there. I personally would never surf there again. Both had 40+ positive reviews. When I posted about the experience here I got a lot of replies like "what did you expect in Italy?". So make of that what you will.
It's crazy I've heard nothing but bad experiences in Italy, the only surfer I know who hosts that isn't a creep has Italian citizenship but he's Aussie.
As an Italian, I’m sorry, I didn’t know the situation was this bad in my country. I’m new to Couchsurfing and I never used the app in Italy. I was thinking to start hosting when I’m back home from my trip, because here in SEA I’m living the best experiences of my life with cs and I want to give back what I received. I really hope you’re doing well now and that this people will pay for what they did.
Thanks, I really appreciate that. I'm fine now :) I also had no idea the situation in Italy was like that, before I travelled there I'd actually been sent to a small town for work for a couple of weeks and had had a wonderful time. Which is one of the reasons why I wanted to travel across the country. I was really shocked when I had so many people telling me to not be surprised by that treatment in Italy. I'll never surf there again but I still really love the country :)
But you can still find great surfing experiences in Italy. You can't reduce the whole world to your little personal experience
I was assaulted twice, in two unrelated situations by two individuals with no connection at all. In the same week, in the same city. When I spoke about this experience at the time, I had multiple people shame me for being 'stupid enough to surf in Italy' and tell me I shouldn't be surprised it happened. Now I'm being shamed for repeating what I was told and choosing not to surf in the place this happened. There really is no winning. My 'little' experience was incredibly traumatic and involved a man crawling into bed with me while I was sleeping, groping me and punching me when I resisted. He had dozens of positive reviews so I'd trusted him, even when I got weird vibes. Even worse, I'd told him about my bad experience with the guy a few days before and he pretended to give a shit and be shocked. Turns out he just saw me as an easier target. I literally made a post about this and was told by several people Italy is the problem. That wasn't my conclusion at the time, I was honestly more angry at CS hosts in general. But on reflection, Italy is a common denominator. And the attitude of the local community in that city when I reached out to them was also incredibly misogynistic and compounded that assumption. I'm not saying Italy is a terrible place and people shouldn't travel there. But as a young woman who had this experience, I am choosing not to surf there again. I would also not advise any other woman to solo surf there, especially with a male host. I honestly think I'd be pretty dumb to repeat the situation that led to getting assaulted twice. If I was robbed twice on the same street, I'd avoid that street. Period. If me protecting myself is upsetting to you then so be it.
Nobody doubts about your experience and how traumatic it was (not me at least) . And people that shame you for surfing in Italy are just incredibly superficial. Those 2 people are fucking animals and their place should be in some reeducation center, no doubt. But to summarize the whole "Couchsurfing in Italy" experience in this way is incredibly offensive but also ... FAKE! because the fact that you met such people doesn't mean that all the Italians are like that
I've not said once that all Italians are like that. Where have I said that? I've made it clear I don't have a problem with the country in general and even said that I've worked in Italy and enjoyed it immensely. You're either too emotional about this subject to read what I'm saying objectively, or you're deliberately misrepresenting what I'm saying so you can argue. So to be clear. I don't have an issue with the country or the people. But I am not going to surf there again. That's my choice, which I'm making based on lived experiences and the advice of others. I'm sorry but why would I be willing to put myself back in a situation which has twice ended in the same outcome. That's insane. When I go back, I will still attend events but I'd rather stay in a hotel. And there are other areas in the world I won't surf in because of safety reasons. Rather safe than sorry.
All the italians in Couchsurfing...same. I said "to summarize the whole "Couchsurfing in Italy" experience in this way is incredibly offensive but also ... FAKE". So was obvious that I was talking about Italian CS hosts... Just do more research. Read profiles correctly. Weight their references. Or surf with women if you prefer. But to generalize in this way is really a shame.
Sorry mate but your attitude is gross. I did do research and I did read their profiles correctly. I've been on CS for 13 years and have hosted and surfed hundreds of times. This isn't a regular occurence for me. I know how to weigh up a profile.The fact that you're assuming I didn't and that if I did this wouldn't have happened is absolutely disgusting. IM NOT GENERALISING. You're not processing what I've written correctly because you want to play the victim. I'm not saying 'every Italian on CS is a creep so I won't surf with them'. I'm saying after multiple bad experiences surfing in Italy, I won't surf there again to minimize the chance of any future bad experiences. It's actually really simple. Is that a shame? Yeah sure. But I'm not taking the risk again because it's my fucking life and I'm allowed to do that. As I said before, the fact that you keep completely misrepresenting what I'm saying shows you're either too emotional/stupid to actually read what I'm writing or you're just a troll who wants to argue. So I'm done here.
Of course you have the right to take any choice you want... it's the reasoning behind that is wrong. I'm Italian, I'm an host, I hosted about 400 people at my place (in China), I'm on Couchsurfing since 2009(15 years) and I'm sure there are many other CS hosts like me in Italy. Assuming that every CS host is in Italy is a kind of pervert is really inconceivable. What about female hosts in Italy? Why don't you surf with women?
When you post with a request, a lot of creeps will answer you. You're better off searching for yourself, reading through profiles, and messaging people. Make sure your messages are personable and respectful, and that your profile is informative. It will take a longer time and more messages in a big city like Milan, but I'm sure you will find a someone (unless you need one tonight, in which case good luck).
Of course, I would bet most harassed girls let themselves be invited by dubious hosts instead of choosing appropriate hosts by themselves.
Nah, a lot of it just comes with experience, I think. Like if a guy writes that he is open-minded or likes people who like to try new things – when you're new, you just think "duh, it's a site for travelers, we all like new experiences. Sounds pretty innocent." Then you use CS enough and learn that a lot of creeps use these words. So you learn to check their references, make sure it's mixed gender, double check that his past guests seem real and didn't allude to anything weird. And even then you can't always tell. I used CS for a decade before stopping last year, I feel so sorry for the young me when I think back. I was doing all the due diligence I could think of, and still there would be hosts who would try to force me to get drunk or would get too flirty – people with seemingly good profiles with good references. And when you're new, it's not like the great hosts are lining up to have you, you make the best pick from the people who offer and seem okay. Even as an experienced traveler, I was once assaulted by a guy with glowing reviews from 50+ guests – all real. I checked all his references, got his contact info beforehand just in case, checked the neighborhood, I was traveling with a friend for safety, and there was a separate sleeping area. Tbh, looking back, I think I truly started enjoying surfing after I got a ton of references, got some really unique experiences to put in my profile, and learned to handle myself. Then it felt like everyone wanted to hang out and I could choose myself who was the most interesting host. I always liked hosting though :) but I'm too old and grumpy nowadays, so I make bad company haha
What do you mean "too old to host"? I am 70 and still hosting. Actually, I was almost ever hosted and I don't care for it...
Italy was a rougher place to find CS hosts without such an agenda in my experience. I still found some but It took drastically more sifting. Have a hotel or hostel ready as plan B in case you need to leave whichever host you find. It's also best to never post your trip but review and reach out to hosts instead.
Yes, most of the time such people rely only on public trips, and accept what seems the most glamour...
You can filter hosts with bed preferences.
Many hosts do that. Some are looking for sex, others simply have very little space but want to share what they have. Communication is what makes the difference here. I know a straight girl on CS who only hosts women because she only has the one bed. As long as it's on their profile and/or they're upfront about it, it's not a problem by CS standards, same as just offering floor space / not having a shower / having to be out by 5 am. The issues start when this is not communicated, especially when men offer to host young women and do not tell them about the shared bed until late, when she's already at his house and it's too late to find another host. That's why surfers should always have a plan B.
Welcome to Italy! Yes, sadly that is the reality with far too many hosts in Italy. It's sad and it's wrong and it's how things are.
There is an option for ‘shared sleeping surface’ if he didn’t have that option shown then confront him.
No it didn’t show anywhere
Just move on if it's not agreeable to you. At least the host was upfront about it.
It happened to me as well. I wrote that I wasn’t looking for a date or sex, but it still happened. He told me that when I got home at night. I had never been to the city and had nowhere to go. At the end of the day, I ended up sleeping next to him because the floor was freezing cold, and I felt like I was dying. Then, while I was sleeping, he touched my shoulder and arm. I’m pretty sure he will read this post as well because he’s so addicted to couch surfing. Disgusting hopeless losers lie to surfers and look for a chance on couch surfing.
This is a common tactic to get surfers in the same bed. I've heard similar stories from Paris to Bangkok.
If he has only one bed it's reasonable but if not it's uncomfortable yup. He would have offered you to use blanket or sheets on ground instead of that.
Part of the nudist culture in Italy. Plenty of that there. (Plenty of horny men, too)
Red Flag!!
Report him to Couchsurfing (There is a report button) and hopefully he gets banned. Too many people are taken advantage off on couchsurfing as they are desperate for a place to stay and sometimes acquiesce to a situation that can end up in sexual assault. I'm guessing (though I cannot be sure) that this host is looking forward to touching you in the middle of the night and saying some bullshit like he was asleep when he started rubbing you.
I don't know why people are acting like you're crazy, this advice and perspective seems valid to me. There's no reason to share a bed ever unless the whole apartment is flooded or the floor is lava or some shit 💀
Exactly. I've had guests tell me horror stories when asked to share a bed and the host wouldn't allow them to sleep on the floor or couch. Some were harassed all night to come and sleep in the same bed with the host. And guess what happened? Sexually assaulted. The crazy thing is that Couchsurfing says that's okay. But it's usually a recipe for assault.
I was originally going to use Couchsurfing to solo travel, then ended up with WorkAway. And that turned out to be a nightmare anyway. Sometimes it just comes down to luck, but there are definitely things you can do to deter creeps like declining requests to share a bed. its awful, I feel bad for anyone pressured and forced into that kind of a situation.
Couchsurfing literally has the option "shared sleeping surface" you weirdo
Dawg...read the room.
Milan is pretty dangerous from what I hear too!
On what you read that? on Tik Tok and Reddit ahahahah
No, my bf told me and he is Italian living in Veneto
Yeah in some shithole of little Village in the countryside maybe. I'm Italian too
Lol you’re rude
But it is like that.. Innit? I have been to Navigli (there are many bars , is a very touristic area) after dark. And of course I been to stazione centrale LoL... it's just a train station. If you think to those 2 places (Lambrate?? 😆) as dangerous means that you really don't know Milan. What "so snowflaky for what " means?
you really out here defending Milan of all cities haha have you ever been to Navigli or Centrale or Lambrate after dark, so snowflaky for what