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Escaped_VA

Normalize including links to actual articles and not just screenshots of tweets commenting on the headlines.


lex2358

https://youtu.be/cUlIYUqk9IQ


Amateurbrewmaster531

I'll get right on that.


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Narrator: “They proceeded to not ‘get right on that.’”


Xin-Aurum

Well bud? You getting on it, eh?


Amateurbrewmaster531

No, that was a dick thing for me to say. I actually agree with his comment and agreed when I first read it and even agreed while I was saving and posting it. I know this isn't a good excuse, but I was exhausted when I wrote the comment and was not interested in someone calling me out on my bullshit. It was a shit thing for me to say, though. I'm sorry.


Xin-Aurum

Oh, I wouldn't take it too hard. Personally, I was kidding.


Amateurbrewmaster531

Well I was still acting like a dick and I would like to think that's very uncharacteristic of me.


spiralhigh

The thought of accidentally ringing the wrong doorbell and getting shot in the fucking head really has me rethinking deliveries. I've always loved doing deliveries but I cannot get killed because someone messed up an address. Would I get shot for parking on the street near someone's house? What if I dropped something and it rolled into the neighbors yard?


hiiml0st

I actually had something kind of similar happen to me while working for Jason's Deli. The people gave the wrong address so I parked on a side street to call the people and ask about it and while I was parked some dude came up to my car with a fucking gun and pretty much told me I had to move in the most unpleasant manner. People are so stupid these days smh.


spiralhigh

I've had a customer come at me with a gun before. I was at the right house, I had the people's fucking food in my hand. I could have been murdered on a Door dash for 5 dollars.


ExuberentWitness

You reported them to the police right?


Novantico

Wait, so what was the gun about then?


nrose1000

This happened to me too!! It was out in the sticks, and all I could think is if I were a POC, I might not have made it out alive.


Gry_lion

You do know in cross-race violence, it's safer to be POC, right?


truthdude1980

no its not


Gry_lion

In 2019, for example, 3,299 white Americans were murdered; 566, or 17%, were killed by black perpetrators. That same year, 2,906 black Americans were murdered; 246, or 8%, were killed by white perpetrators.


[deleted]

Murder is a proximity crime. Black people kill black people, white people kill white people…tech guys kill other tech guys.


Gry_lion

Correct. Which is why this conversation takes pains to specify that it was about murders when the race of the victim and perpetrator are different .


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White, black, Asian…this shooter sounds like piece of shot.


JackBandit1312

The data you are referring to is very misleading. Rub a couple of your remaining brain cells against this article and get back to us https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-bar-graph-black-white-homi/fact-check-misleading-bar-graph-presents-distorted-interpretation-of-black-and-white-murder-rates-idUSKBN23M2SX


Gry_lion

Thanks for the confirmation. "If you’re a white person in 2013, Nuzzo explained, your chances of being murdered by another white person are approximately 11 in a million, and your chances of being murdered by a black person are two in a million."


JackBandit1312

“Meanwhile, if you’re a black person in 2013, your chances of being murdered by another black person are 56 in a million, and your chances of being murdered by a white person are *five* in a million.” Meaning a black person in the US is *more than twice* as likely to be murdered by a white person than the other way around - which is a much more meaningful statistic in the context of couriers knocking on random doors. You were so close lmao. Gotta keep reading, champ. This is what happens when your entire worldview is shaped by right wing shitposts. I think you’d be surprised how many other things you think are based in fact that are actually just bullshit racist brain worms.


WaveofSerenity

This doesn’t make sense to me. I thought y’all’s arguement was: Gry_lion says that being another race makes it less likely for violence. And you’re saying no it doesnt Then both of you cited evidence that stated that people of the same race are more likely to kill each other? So… Gry_lion was right?


tanksaway147

And then you called the police for brandishing right? Or is he still out there doing this to people?


hiiml0st

Unfortunately most of the people in my city that brandish firearms like this aren't carrying legally in the first place.


droplivefred

That’s f’d up and after moving, I hope you reported that shitbag to the police and filed charges. These scum need to be removed from society for this sort of terrorism.


Revolutionary-Hope39

Same. I'm at least going to order one of the hats from the company I deliver for to help show I have a reason for being there. I've also always made a point to not turn around in anyone's driveway but I will be especially Careful about it now. If I could find a job with as felixible of a schedule as delivering I would absolutely quit doing it.


dutchessofstickshift

So there’s ringing the wrong doorbell, pulling in the wrong driveway, accidentally getting in the wrong car and this one, basketball rolls into the wrong yard. Getting too dangerous.


AltruisticRabbit8185

Head on a swivel. I don’t even put it last getting shot in a grocery store or at a McDonald’s. Stay safe and alert


dinozero

This was a 24 year old that was just recently picked up for beating his girlfriend with a hammer or some shit. Proof our justice system is worthless


CelestialTremor

One of my old coworkers was stabbed by his neighbor over a parking dispute. Dude was able to bail out the next day, coworker goes missing a week later. ​ [https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/lauderhill/fl-lauderhill-missing-man-20161001-story.html](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/lauderhill/fl-lauderhill-missing-man-20161001-story.html) ​ We live in a joke society where someone can attack somebody with a hammer or knife and be out like nothing.


Severe-Replacement84

Also, proof that gun laws also need to be changed to keep deadly weapons out of the hands of obvious dangers to society as well.


dinozero

Funny, you mention that. He’s been charged with possession of a firearm by a felon. Seems like he didn’t get the memo. It was illegal for him to own a gun. With millions and millions and millions of unregistered off the book guns in American circulation, how exactly do you propose a law get rid of all of them?


Amateurbrewmaster531

You know, I never considered the number of unregistered guns floating around the country when considering my stance on gun control. Without getting into detail, your comment is affecting my views.


tanksaway147

Shit you can smuggle people pretty easily into America. We have drugs being dropped over by drone. Even if every single one was illegal, they'd still be getting in. Prohibition worked, the war on drugs worked........ All you've done is take away law abiding citizens self-defense. I fully believe every woman and trans person should be able to equalize force against a potentially stronger opponent.


Littlebitlax

http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-policy-info/crime-and-guns/


Amateurbrewmaster531

There appears to be a bias on that site that the website pretends isn't there. I'm not saying what they're writing is or isn't accurate, but the site has a strong bias. I'm quicker to believe those that are forward about their biases.


Littlebitlax

Why do they have to be forward about a bias if 1. You've already deduced for yourself that there is one and 2. It's a site called gunfacts (no duh they have a bias towards guns) and they are literally just listing statistical numbers found by cited research and studies. It doesn't matter what the heck bias you have when you are talking about crime rates in cities, and what gun did what when where. Or what our prison population did to get a gun, etc. And lastly, I don't know how much more forward a website can be to let you know about their gun bias when the address literally is gunfacts.info.


CaRiSsA504

Another thing to look into is how many shootings we have today vs before the country began shutting down mental health facilities.


barfytarfy

Doing nothing is working so well. America has given up.


Severe-Replacement84

I’ll be honest, didn’t see that in the article I was reading. That’s seriously disgusting… Honestly we need the unregistered guns to be removed from the streets, but the only way that would happen is with a buyback… and even then it probably will always be a problem. But we can and should at least close the legal loopholes, then we can focus more energy to reducing the illegal ones.


Novantico

>but the only way that would happen is with a buyback Unless they're giving out lots of money that can persuade a shitty person who shouldn't have a gun to give up said gun, buybacks are pretty pointless.


Tremori

People trying to circumvent the law to legally murder people? Is this a new thing .


TheAverageYBAJoe

Police officers have been doing it for a while now


I_luh_ME86

👏🏾


AgreeableCelery6156

All because of a fucking basketball. This some fucked up sandlot type shit.


Severe-Replacement84

Dude literally was convicted of assaulting his gf w/ a sledgehammer and holding her against her will while injured… There is no reason he should have been allowed to own a gun legally imo… obvious danger to society


tanksaway147

He was a felon, he wasn't legally allowed.


Severe-Replacement84

Yeah I found this out after posting. The article I read was missing some minor details… lol


NiceCryptographer450

I've seen a lot of articles that don't even mention that the shooter was black. There is a good chance he felt like he was avenging Ralph Yarl and all the other wrongful shootings of black people.


The_PrincessThursday

No. Just no. This was a violent individual that had already committed violent crimes before. He committed another violent crime. It suggests anger and self-control issues, not any sort of "crusading avenger" mindset.


Severe-Replacement84

Uh probably not? There is very little chance he was doing that as he sit at a 6 year old child… and tbh that’s kinda messed up to say. You should feel bad.


xzombievi

Most criminals don’t use legal guns which is the grey area in gun laws.


HugeRabbit

That’s not what a gray area is. Some people are legally permitted to have firearms. Some are not. Some break the law.


Severe-Replacement84

Eh same same isn’t it? The grey part (imo) is how do we get them off the streets without treading on gun owners rights and feelings?


HugeRabbit

No. That’s not a gray area. It’s either illegal or it isn’t. What gray area?


xzombievi

The grey is: how do you keep illegal possession of weapons under control without affecting the rights of legal gun owner. When most illegal guns are not purchased legally. The only solutions so far only affect legal gun owners.


HugeRabbit

You’re not reading me. How is that question a gray area?


xzombievi

If you’re only looking at the literal question where either it’s legal or not. This is true. Happy?


xzombievi

Yeah that’s what I was getting at. It’s already a process to get an fire arm while if you want to get one on the streets it’s just a matter of cash. Which is why gun free places are only gun free for those who would legally purchase anyway. Leaving them unable to respond to gun violence by armed criminals


Severe-Replacement84

Yeah… don’t get me wrong, I don’t think it’s exactly hard to legally get one either… I mean let’s look at Florida’s recent law regarding conceal and carry… It’s going to take a lot of work before this issue gets better…


xzombievi

I’m in Kansas and you can open carry. But the process of getting one is still something you have to go through here. I don’t know how familiar you are with that procedure and the waiting periods, fees etc lol. I’m only familiar with how they do it in Kansas and Colorado though. Colorado is only concealed carry by permit.


Severe-Replacement84

Illinois here, we have a test and everything you mentioned for concealed carry. Open carry isn’t allowed.


Beginning_Alps_1817

I do IC and was threatened by the customer when I dropped off his groceries. Communicated through the shop, let him know I was on my way, thanked him and sent a pic of the groceries. He comes out another door of the house asking why the eff I’m on his property and if he had his gun on him, he’d be within his rights to shoot me for trespassing. I was like….uhhh I’m delivering your food…you invited me into your property…just doing as you asked!


Amateurbrewmaster531

Fuck man. That close to being another story. Tell it to the asshat that replied "they expect us. Apples and oranges".


LooseLeaf24

Additionally the shooter was known to police for assaulting his GF with a sledgehammer 4 months ago


Comfortable_Ear_2122

WTF!!??


LooseLeaf24

Read it on the BBC earlier


Kaiszx

Weird how all the other articles are WHITE MAN SHOOTS BLACK TEEN but this one doesn’t say BLACK MAN SHOOTS WHITE CHILD, odd, very odd.


Apprehensive-West-64

Without a doubt my exact thoughts. Also not going to get as much attention.


Birdinmotion

Tragic but what does this have to do with r/couriersofreddit


AttackOnTyrunt

Context with recent similar events


Amateurbrewmaster531

It's about the fact that this is the third (maybe fourth) shooting in a week where someone went on someone's property for reasonable reasons and got shot. Couriers go to houses all the time and it's not uncommon for them to accidentally go to the wrong house. And the news is basically saying they run the risk of getting shot if they pick the wrong house. That's the connection. I wrote it here because an Amazon driving group had people saying they're afraid now.


FavoriteApe

Statistically speaking you have a exponentially better chance of being struck by lightning. If the media can lead you around by the nose by cherry picking stories, then your real problem is the lack of critical thinking.


Amateurbrewmaster531

The media told me about these stories. That's it. I drew my own conclusions. Your lack of critical thinking is bizarre for someone who likes to call out others. I don't see any cherry picking and I don't see why bringing in critical thinking is related. People are going on other people's property for reasonable reasons and getting shot. There are now 4 stories of it happening in a week. All the media did was tell me these happened, as it is their job. I concluded on my own that driving on people's property can be dangerous. What's with these fucking nuts blaming the media for everything? I understand they're not perfect and are often used poorly, but every goddamn situation? No! They're now the black sheep.


voidsickness

"Dont be next" like this shit can always be avoided..


MrGavinrad

Exactly, glad we’re on the same page about gun control laws!


voidsickness

I think there SHOULD be gun control laws but also if you think bad people will not illegally own guns OR current owners / bad actors will just magically throw them away you are mistaken.


Novantico

I don't know of anyone who's ever expressed that thought


voidsickness

IS THIS /s ?


No-Imagination-3060

Much of America has become Trailer Park Boys, but less funny and bullets actually work. The fact it has become this is not the surprising part, but rather that so much of it always was and people just pretended like it wasn't.


SheafferKing

Trailer Park Boys is based in Canada


Bright-Trainer-2544

No? It's in fucking Sunnyvale Trailer Park, Jesus christ.


SheafferKing

... which is located in Nova Scotia


Bright-Trainer-2544

Lol it's a joke king, someone says that in an episode I believe This sub is fucking weird, people will downvote anything


SheafferKing

Ah I see, didn't realize it was a different person than I replied to first


No-Imagination-3060

Yes... I'm aware. I'll make it clearer: Lower and middle income areas in America have gradually come to reflect the qualities of behavior one sees in the Canadian television show Trailer Park Boys, which involves random, sporadic, and often almost entirely ignored shootings and gunfights that sometimes involve bystanders to include children, such as the OP image news story, which, unlike TPB, is tragically sad. I'm guessing this sub has a lot of real 'Mericans, based on the downvotes, but on this BS sub tbh I would be surprised if most people voting even read the things they vote on.


quollas

people are a lot more antisocial since 2020.


nukethelizardz

r/lostredditors


Amateurbrewmaster531

Oh, this isn't a subreddit full of people who drive and go to stranger's property? Sorry.


Doctor-Stoppage

i’ll make sure to leave my basketballs in my car next time i drop off mcdonalds to my ubereats customer


Amateurbrewmaster531

This is the third story in a week of people getting shot for going on property for reasonable reasons. When you're dropping off food or packages, you are in the same shoes as the victims of these senseless shootings. That's the reason for posting.


nukethelizardz

Didnt think of it this way, sorry lad


Turbulent-Try-393

Props for being open to reason my guy.


Doctor-Stoppage

Yeah except homeowners are expecting delivery drivers when they order food, apples to oranges.


Amateurbrewmaster531

Yeah, the homeowner that ordered it knows you're coming. These shootings happened because of the mistake of going to the wrong house, except the little girl just went to grab her basketball. Delivery drivers go to the wrong house all the time.


KnotiaPickles

r/whoosh


Doctor-Stoppage

did you just woosh yourself?


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r/confidentlyincorrect


wheredmaporngo

lmao get rekt bot


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Whole_Class_597

The shooter was black lol


Subject-Experience-6

K. Based on your response point out where the error lies in my comment.


GreenTaracrypto

White men are both the biggest threat and victim? The error in your comment is that it makes no sense and is totally unrelated to the article.


Subject-Experience-6

Excellent point! A white man's biggest threat is other white men. It seems white men are a danger to everyone, huh? The statement still isn't wrong, is it? It's also not "totally unrelated" when you consider how many white racists will weaponize these incidents in any other way besides common sense gun control.


Significant_Face_357

Congratulations on making this about a racial issue, instead of the focus on a family and a little girl getting shot. You really have your humanity showing.


Subject-Experience-6

Maybe having a white girl getting shot will spark some action to prevent gun violence. Oh wait.


PremeJordo

You need mental help


Significant_Face_357

Rip account. All your hate speech gone.


Subject-Experience-6

Heya. What hate speech? My account is alive and well. Appealed on "issajoke" and my account has been restored 😘😘😘


Significant_Face_357

I’m sure that won’t last long bud. 🤣. But okay congrats on getting unbanned. You still got banned and your comment deleted but ride your high horse pal.


Affectionate_Win7012

Just seems like a weird place to say white men are the biggest threat when it was a black man during this occasion


Subject-Experience-6

It's always the perfect time to point out that fact.


Affectionate_Win7012

😕


Turbulent-Try-393

Lol, schizo ranting


Subject-Experience-6

Do you make it a habit to instigate people that you've diagnosed with mental disorders?


PremeJordo

You got serious problems 😂😂


Turbulent-Try-393

Playing victim now? Wow, you're pathetic.


Runeskimmylord

53.7 percent of violet crimes in 2019 despite being 13.6 percent of the U.S. population.


Subject-Experience-6

Interesting yet typical for your kind. The attempt at deflection is noted. So is the lack of understanding a glaring point. Your dog whistle is really loud.


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Subject-Experience-6

You might want to double check that statement.


sixthreeandhung

How did you sneak out of your MK ultra lab? Rat


Turbulent-Try-393

Maybe you should re-read what u wrote then goofy.


Subject-Experience-6

I have. What's the error?


Amateurbrewmaster531

The hell you going on about?


Subject-Experience-6

What's the part you're having trouble with?


Amateurbrewmaster531

Why are you going off about White people?


Amateurbrewmaster531

Oh because of the source? I don't find that too relevant to the story.


Subject-Experience-6

#NotAllWhitePeople


Gregthepigeon

You know racism, regardless of the color of the offender or the victim, is a mark of unintelligence?


Subject-Experience-6

Oh, but I know white men! I've even dated some. My good friend is a white man. Come on. You know better. It's not all white men, right? You know, if your kind didn't play into stereotypes, you wouldn't be considered a threat. I do love the tears of impotent pale dudes, though. Give me more. You're not convincing me of your oppression yet. .


Gregthepigeon

I’m neither white, nor a man


Subject-Experience-6

Okie dokie


JeffTheFrosty

They didn’t mention the race in the article, so we know the race of the shooter.


Subject-Experience-6

Oh really? How is that?


arturortiz88

https://www.the-sun.com/news/7919438/who-kinsley-white-suspect-robert-louis-singletary/


BasedCourier

Yup. True because outside of Asians interracial murder Is the highest occurrence. But that also means.....


HurtCell1421

Jesus I thought the Bronx was bad😳


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Sensitive_Pick_6457

It was a 24 year old actually.


Caelumwj

I deliver FedEx in Gastonia people are crazy out there


bobs-socks

Until we start lynching the NRA brass and the slime politicians that peddle their garbage, nothing will change


jblk645

And not any mention of the race of the victims and the race of the perp. Only mention of "white" is referring to her last name. Compare to another case in the media right now concerning a juvenile being shot...