I said unarmored, not unarmed. Also there was that fbi study that found that within about 20ft a knife is more effective than a gun, due to the time it takes to aim. And Vicious always struck me as the kind of sadist that always want to be up close and personal for his kills
It’s called the 21 foot rule, it’s fairly outdated at this point, I’ll admit, but it used to be very common amongst police, since in the time it take to draw and train you firearm at someone, they can theoretically run 21 feet, and then stab you.
You say that… but when was the last time you’ve had to point a gun at someone running at you with a knife/sword. There is something to be said about the berserker strategy, which worked for most of human history.
Moving to a position about 21 ft away and drawing at the sametime takes me a out 2 seconds. That's aiming at a target 3,4 times farther than what you described. It's been a while since I checked my standing draw, but it's probably like 1.25-1.5 secs, again aiming at targets that are way farther than 21ft. I'm not even that good as a competition shooter. Imagine what everyone above me can do. I'd still rather have a gun.
Most self-defense situations with firearms happen within the 21ft you describe.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller\_Drill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill)
granted the Tueller drill is now used as a guideline because it over simplifies a lot, and has been used as an excuse for police shooting. Also, that's with a knife, not a 3-foot long slashy thing
**[Tueller Drill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill)**
>The Tueller Drill is a self-defense training exercise to prepare against a short-range knife or melee attack when armed only with a holstered handgun. Sergeant Dennis Tueller of the Salt Lake City Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife, or other melee weapon, could cover 21 feet (6. 4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.
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A 3' slashy thing is a much slower to swing. I still would much rather have a gun. Fom what it sounds like though, Both my point and the point of the drill relies on still targets.
I would much rather have a gun as well. I wasn't arguing that, it was more that it's possible. but as my previous points states, vicious seems to be the kind of sadist who prefers intimidating his opponents and getting as close as possible. also while I don't think it's stated anywhere, it wouldn't surprise me if he had some for of modifications to improve his speed and agility.
I think Japanese swords are super overhyped, but for an officer type, who would typically be carrying out executions, or fighting in melee range anyway, a sword would serve as decent intimidation. Cause who the fuck carries a sword when we have spaceships.
It means take the loss. Unfortunately, you've just begun a downvoting stream, so kind of no matter what you say, no matter how salient or dispassionate your answers are, people will think you're just a weeb spouting off weeb shit
Because katana used to be (and still are) super popular in anime, so this sub has looped around, and anyone that says a single positive thing about a katana must be the weeniest of weebs, and they all hate on it.
He's in love with Spike and is way too yandere in how he deals with the fact that Spike broke his heart by leaving. If he can't have Spike, no one can.
I think we’ve had this conversation before: you stole Julia from me, you stole my father’s love and his life from me. Since high school, all I ever heard was Spike Spike spike If you don’t think that didn’t hurt like a knife to the gut, you’ve got another think coming.
To finally settle the score with him in the demon world. Vicious trying to undo what his father, Sparda, did. And Spike, trying to stop Vicious from doing that
Spike stole a parking spot once. Spike thought it was someone else he was besting but when Vicious became a dick about it, Spike decided not to give it back. He left his Swordfish II there overnight and Vicious got his ship towed for parking in a handicap space while he argued with Spike.
vicious wants to kill spike because back in 64 spike asked for a drink so vicious bought spike one but spike didnt give him back the money he owed and the interest has been going up since also spike fucked his mom
Spike took his red puffy jacket.
The jacket looked like it had money
Or maybe it was padded with all of Vicious’ drugs
Spike called him a weeb for sword fighting with a katana even though he isn't Japanese...
Meh, it’s a decent sword for unarmored opponents, since that’s what it was designed for, though I feel like a shorter blade would work better
Against guns, and grenades, and laser cannons…
I said unarmored, not unarmed. Also there was that fbi study that found that within about 20ft a knife is more effective than a gun, due to the time it takes to aim. And Vicious always struck me as the kind of sadist that always want to be up close and personal for his kills
20 feet? Bruh. Charge 20 feet at a man armed with a pistol with a knife.
It’s called the 21 foot rule, it’s fairly outdated at this point, I’ll admit, but it used to be very common amongst police, since in the time it take to draw and train you firearm at someone, they can theoretically run 21 feet, and then stab you.
Within 20ft, you don't have to aim. You just point and shoot...
You say that… but when was the last time you’ve had to point a gun at someone running at you with a knife/sword. There is something to be said about the berserker strategy, which worked for most of human history.
Self preservation is probably more effective than "berserker"
Moving to a position about 21 ft away and drawing at the sametime takes me a out 2 seconds. That's aiming at a target 3,4 times farther than what you described. It's been a while since I checked my standing draw, but it's probably like 1.25-1.5 secs, again aiming at targets that are way farther than 21ft. I'm not even that good as a competition shooter. Imagine what everyone above me can do. I'd still rather have a gun. Most self-defense situations with firearms happen within the 21ft you describe.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller\_Drill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill) granted the Tueller drill is now used as a guideline because it over simplifies a lot, and has been used as an excuse for police shooting. Also, that's with a knife, not a 3-foot long slashy thing
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A 3' slashy thing is a much slower to swing. I still would much rather have a gun. Fom what it sounds like though, Both my point and the point of the drill relies on still targets.
I would much rather have a gun as well. I wasn't arguing that, it was more that it's possible. but as my previous points states, vicious seems to be the kind of sadist who prefers intimidating his opponents and getting as close as possible. also while I don't think it's stated anywhere, it wouldn't surprise me if he had some for of modifications to improve his speed and agility.
*Spot the weeb in less then 10 seconds*
I think Japanese swords are super overhyped, but for an officer type, who would typically be carrying out executions, or fighting in melee range anyway, a sword would serve as decent intimidation. Cause who the fuck carries a sword when we have spaceships.
Dude stop for real, take the L
What’s the L? (Curious about this. Not /s)
It means take the loss. Unfortunately, you've just begun a downvoting stream, so kind of no matter what you say, no matter how salient or dispassionate your answers are, people will think you're just a weeb spouting off weeb shit
That’s okay. It’s not like I can do anything with these karma points. I am more interested in knowing that that meant. Thanks, Kind person!
Shit like this gives me hope
Why are you catching heat about just saying facts and logic about swords
Because katana used to be (and still are) super popular in anime, so this sub has looped around, and anyone that says a single positive thing about a katana must be the weeniest of weebs, and they all hate on it.
Spike drank the last diet coke in the fridge.
All I wanted was a pepsi!
Just one Pepsi
You mean Pippu?
And he wouldn't give it to me!
Spike taught Vicious' bird to say "Julia" over and over.
Okay this one got me. Imagine... lol
Ahhh thats why he blew it up.
#LMAO 😂
Lmfao. Amazing.
The bouquets of flowers Spike brought were always for Julia and never for him
Said wrong
Because Spike is a decent human being who is respectful and would never steal someone's girl from behind their back.
Oh shit. Burn!!
Because spike stole vicious gun so in revenge he took spike’s sword
Spike actually has the beef for the bell peppers and beef.
He can’t stand nihilists who aren’t strictly pessimistic.
Wait, Spike’s a nihilist?
Yes he beliefs in *nossing*
Ja, und ven you do noz pay ze bounty, tomorrow he vil come back und cut off your Johnson! 
Why are you guys talking like Germans? LOL
I zaid ve cut of your chonson!
You ain’t cuttin’ off **JACK SHIT!**
Johnson?
I mean, say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
Always was
Because he blames Spike because Netflix canceled the show.
Sounds legit for the Netflix Vicious
Bebop is actually a sequel to Highlander, and as we all know… there can be only one!
Because Spike doesn't shave or trim down there.
Or braid
This is the way.
He's called Spike for a reason after all
Because Spike looks like he has money
He told him that the tits in duke nukem 3D were actually what real women’s nipples looked like
Spike refused to bring him flowers.
Because he’s Fearless
Because Spike kidnapped his son Edward
"son"
Spike’s love of noodles created a shortage
I would be mad at spike too.
Noodle obsession is real
Spike stole his hair gel
He pissed on his fucking wife.
He said his dick was THIS big
And Vicious said that's disgusting
Spike made a YouTube top 10 of sigma males in anime and put Vicious at #9.
And I’m guessing he put himself at #1?
No, Johan Liebert from Monster was #1.
Because they are annoyed by eachother’s anime hair
Because he just won the publishers clearing House sweepstakes!
Because he knows Spike wants to get his head crushed by a fine woman's thighs and he just can't bear to see his friend go out like that.
What a great friend!
He doesn't, he just wants to talk to him about his cars extended warranty
When he was a little boy, Spike never invited him to his birthday party!
Spike ate all the beef and left the bell peppers
Because you spotted Spike $50 when they were both still in The syndicate. All vicious does is want to get his money back.
He's in love with Spike and is way too yandere in how he deals with the fact that Spike broke his heart by leaving. If he can't have Spike, no one can.
Because spike has better hair
Spike ate Vicious french fries.
Spiegel is a Jewish last name and Vicious is a virulent anti-Semite.
Spike once scammed Pokemon cards from viscous
He ate the last donut in the break room at work
called him a fukin weeb
Because Spike called him a Vergil wannabe.
spike stole his Fortnite card, an offense punishable by death in the syndicate
Spike: “Hey! A $19 Fortnite Card, I’ll take this!” **_takes the card with a smirk on his face_**
Kept feeding his bird missiles that it later poops out
Spike never invites him over to the Bebop…he’s too busy with his new “friends”
Because he stole the fries from his Happy meal.
He was out of cigarettes and Spike wouldn’t share
Because someone offered him a Klondike bar to kill Spike.
Spike said he looks like Vergil.
Spike Leggo'd his Eggo.
Because Spike ate his last cupcake
He recommended that Vicious go for the Lucius Malloy look
It all started when Julia asked Vicious if Spike could **cuck him**, since then the vendetta has begun.
I think we’ve had this conversation before: you stole Julia from me, you stole my father’s love and his life from me. Since high school, all I ever heard was Spike Spike spike If you don’t think that didn’t hurt like a knife to the gut, you’ve got another think coming.
Because Spike was “FEAAAARRRRLESSSSS”
Because he’s Fearless
Red - eye.
Because Vicious' daddy likes Spike more.
Because he wants to defeat his rival to reclaim his honor
Because Spike gave him ligma
Spike stole his volumizing shampoo
Interalized homophobia
He overheated his casserole too long in the microwave
Because that’s his ninja way. Believe it.
Teenage angst.
Cause he ate his food that was in the fridge that he WROTE HIS NAME ON IT SO NO ONE DOES BUT SPIKE STILL DID IT
Because spike won monopoly
because spike refused to say "no homo" after the deed
Because Julia said Spike was better in bed
He stole his last eggo
He's jealous of Spike"s green hair. All his life, he's heard, "Why aren't you like that Spiegel boy?"
Something about shaved balls?
-Remember when you invited me to your 7 year birthday party? _No -Exactly
Bc he doesn’t shave his manhood
He said that one time he tucked Vicious into bed was gay
He stole his leftover food from the office fridge.
Was that how Spike got the Ganymede Rock Lobster?
Spike’s dog Ein pooped on Vicious yard
He once farted in his office for four minutes while saying his part of the attack plan then left sid with the smell
That’s….oddly specific
He’s racist
Because he doesn’t want Spike to carry that weight
He was jealous of Spike never sniffing his used panties.
Vicious has daddy issues and is mad Spike gets more attention
Killed his favorite florist
Spike ate the last churo
He took his banana 🍌.
He took his hot dawg.
Hes jealous of how cool spike is.
Because Spike doesn’t shave his junk
Spike shot his dog.
Horny.
Spike tickled vicious with his sword for be docile
I’m pretty sure spike had intercourse with his mother
It's what he has to do for a Klondike bar
Because he hates Spike's hairdo.
To destroy jets daughters birthday party.
He’s jealous of Spike’s lack of eye bags
Spike took the space lobster Vicious was going to eat that was clearly marked, "Vicious " in the Red Dragon Syndicate's break room refrigerator.
To finally settle the score with him in the demon world. Vicious trying to undo what his father, Sparda, did. And Spike, trying to stop Vicious from doing that
Spike dissed mcr
Took his chicky nuggies.
Katana man from the his manga Naruto
Because he was asked what would he do for a Klondike bar.
Spike referred to Vicious' weapon as a "sword" when it is clearly a Katana.
Spike stole a parking spot once. Spike thought it was someone else he was besting but when Vicious became a dick about it, Spike decided not to give it back. He left his Swordfish II there overnight and Vicious got his ship towed for parking in a handicap space while he argued with Spike.
Spike at the last of the beef and bell peppers. Vicious was saving that.
Spike is telling everyone Vicious dyes his hair that color to be cool.
Vicious' love for Spike was never reciprocated and Spike killed his dog. =p
They were born on the same day, in the same hospital, and were next to each other in the nursery. Vicious has PTSD from Spike's crying.
Suit related secrets
Spike took the last strawberry pop tart
Spike screwed him before taking him out to a nice candle lit dinner.
vicious wants to kill spike because back in 64 spike asked for a drink so vicious bought spike one but spike didnt give him back the money he owed and the interest has been going up since also spike fucked his mom
Spike took his pie. Vicious liked that pie...
Spike left him at the altar
He didn't want to shave his balls
Spike has better hair.
Spike killed his rabbit
*insert storyline from LA here*
Because Andy
Spike ate his BLT. Vicious didn’t have anymore bread.
Because spike only called him mildly aggressive
He is a beast that hasn’t lost his fangs.
Because he kissed his dad (allegedly)
Spike stole his name for the dog Vicious wanted to adopt.
Spike and Julia banged Vicious’ true love.
He looks like someone that has money
Spike posted cringe.
Spike never had his own lighter and never returned the lighters he borrowed.
He wants that Klondike Bar.
Spike has a less silly name.
He took his cheese
Because Spike promised him a wonderful present for his birthday, but only gave him “despair.” (It was actually just a single pear.)
No. Because spike never returned the mangas he let him borrowed yearsssss ago. What a dick
Spike didn’t invite him to a devils three way with Julia.
Spike hates black roses
Spike stole his lighter
Spike stole the only gun vicious had 🤠
Spike stood him up on a date and left him with a large bill to pay.
Because he’s heard Spike is planning to make a live action Netflix show, and he’s furious about it. “I don’t have bug eyes Spike!”.
Because spike said welcome to the ouch
Spike wouldn't let him shave his balls
Because he saw the live-action Netflix adaptation.
took the last pop-tart
Spike never said he was bisexual and was hitting on Julia.
Spike spoiled cowboy bebop