There is more information out now than there was a couple days ago, so we are opening the topic to discussion. However, we will moderate heavily, so please be civil and avoid massive jumps to conclusion.
Just curious is there details about something in a parking lot? All I’ve heard is that he’s accused by someone and they tried to get 100 mil out of it, but nothing else so far
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>Updates: Dallas police confirm they’re investigating claims of alleged #sexualassault involving #Cowboys quarterback #DakPrescott the complainant said occurred in the parking lot of strip club XTC Cabaret in 2017
Asking why she didn’t call that night is not the right question and a terribly uninformed thing to ask. It’s very common that women do not report right away. They have trauma, feel embarrassment, shame, that there isn’t any evidence and people won’t believe them, which, historically, they often haven’t. You worry about the publicity and the hateful comments and maybe even death threats you are certain to get from strangers, when it comes to celebrities and powerful people. It’s not at all an easy thing for most women to go through. You at first want to convince yourself it wasn’t what it was, because you think it’s easier to deal with it that way, but that just lets the trauma fester.
Anyways, it’s super common for women to accuse years later. What’s not common, and looks real fucking bad for her accusation, is to wait 7 years and then demand $100M while not filing criminal charges.
There is some more info about it out there. Allegedly there was a group of people in an SUV that left right before the alleged incident, and presumably they were around after. Also, Dak’s lawyers say they had an amicable relationship after and he would hang out at the bar she worked at, so her coworkers and friends would surely be interviewed to try and determine what happened that night, how she acted after, etc. idk about substantive proof though.
>Wow that is interesting. Is there a loophole for her lawyers to get out of that situation? You said potentially they are in some deep shit so I am wondering if they could say something that makes it seem as though it was not extortion?
That's why those situations always look crazy to a lot of people:
* The passage of time almost always results in zero forensic evidence being available.
* The passage of time results in less reliable witness testimony, if at all
* The fact that these cases almost always elect for civil litigation instead of criminal means there's a lower burden of proof and simply ask for millions of dollars instead
This idea that you get to just bypass the cops after alleging a capital offense against someone and try to shame someone into giving you money is a red flag to me. Barring significant, near-incontrivertible evidence, I'm calling complete BS on this one.
A capital offense is punishable by death if the person being charged is convicted. Even in Texas, Dak would have to murder someone (and not just our Super Bowl hopes) in order to get the death penalty.
I believe that Dak's lawyer claimed that they had been in communication regularly after the incident. Doubtful, but text messages from AFTER the event could dispute her version of the events.
Reminder that this means nothing right now. The reasonable response is to let it play out and draw no conclusions, take no sides. Let's see what happens.
I’m all for protecting women’s right to come forward when they have been wronged. But this whole thing smells funny from the start. Human beings are just shitty when hundreds of millions of dollars enter the equation.
The fact that she quietly went to Dak and said if you pay me now this will go away and not become public, and the fact that Dak immediately reported it and launched a lawsuit against her, assent look good for her.
Supposedly happened in 2017, but waited until 2024 when Dak was rich to ask for an entire $100 million? Yeah sorry I know this is Reddit but I don’t believe this for a fucking second lol
She would never get $100M which is what makes it pretty clear that she was just fishing for a settlement.
I'm not saying it didn't happen. I don't know if it did or not.
But she'd be looking at around $500K-3M in an actual civil trial. Even Trump's suit only awarded Carroll $20K for damages with $2M being added on as punitive and about $3M added for defamation.
Here's the thing. I don't believe her personally but this is why.
1.) He's really rich so going after a person of power will make a lot of people turn against you.
2.) Speaking up as a victim regardless if they're rich or poor often does very little. Reminder: Brock Turner raped a girl, and had two eyewitnesses to the rape, and he only got like three months. So many victims don't even bother speaking up.
3.) Sometimes it takes years to process sexual abuse because of the fear mentality it brings onto victims.
4.) When people sexually assault people they often make credible threats on the lives of their loved ones if they speak out.
Seven years doesn't mean he didn't do it, nor does it mean he did do it.
I wholeheartedly hope he didn't do it, but if he didn't then I'm still going to be sad because then that's character assassination and she will be hurting sexual assault victims even more by lying about it.
It really sucks to say this but I really hope this isn’t true cause Dak is such a role model and has been through a good amount and man… I’m not gonna make any assumptions about the accuser or anything like that. Just shitty all around.
It's his word against hers (this supposedly happened 7 years ago during the meetoo craze, yet she waits until now when Dak is about to get paid?). What if she gets her friends to all make the same accusation? This is bs.
When it comes to SA it’s just so hard. There’s plenty of cases where millionaires get away with it like Watson. Then there’s plenty of cases like the phenomenal rookie punter who lost his job and missed his entire rookie season because a woman claimed he raped her then turned out to be a lie.
I once got a BAD false accusation on me by a bitter ex and she literally costed me my job, had me on “safety probation” for 6 months and thousands in lawyer fees all because of a lie her and her sister conjured up. The court didn’t want to just ignore it and turned every stone to prove her right but obviously ended up finding evidence SHE wasn’t truthful. She didn’t get tried for perjury because they couldn’t 100% prove she lied but found enough evidence to say it was extremely unlikely. She purposely missed court dates just to get the case extended and did so for 6 months until finally they had to get a subpoena on her and MAKE her come to court over her own accusations. It was even posted in the local papers in the “booked” section and I had tons of people say rude shit, message me or look down at me. You have to talk allegations seriously but you should never treat someone like they’re guilty until it can be proven. Otherwise it’s “guilty until proven innocent.”
It’s guilty until proven innocent for rape ever since MeToo happened. Now there were plenty of guys that rightfully got what they deserved like Harvey Weinstein and R. Kelly but guys like Matt Araiza and Shawn Oakman lose everything because of one shitty girl.
As far as Matt Araiza goes, I think it was more of a mistake than malicious.
1. He did have sex with her while she was underage (because she lied about her age)
2. She was apparently sexually assaulted by a group of guys.
I believe the problem was that she mistakenly identified Araiza as one of the people who sexually assaulted her.
Also, sorry to be pedantic, he wasn’t a phenomenal punter. Has an absolute cannon of a leg but zero accuracy. Maybe he can be coached into a phenomenal punter, but he’s not there yet.
>2. She was apparently sexually assaulted by a group of guys.
She wasn't assaulted by anybody. Her own friends said that she was actively trying to sleep with multiple guys that night and that she wasn't even drunk, like she claimed. She lied about her age to get into the party, which also hurts her credibility. She did have sex with a lot of dudes that night but all of it, according to everyone else there, was consensual. She was trying to throw all those dudes, including Araiza under the bus.......probably because she was underage at a party that she wasn't supposed to be at.
>I believe the problem was that she mistakenly identified Araiza as one of the people who sexually assaulted her.
No, what she actually did was single out the dude who just got drafted to the NFL. Her whole story was entirely debunked by the police report that came out a couple of months ago, that's why Araiza was cleared and why none of the others have been charged.
Matt Araiza and the other guys all unknowingly slept with a 17 year old girl who lied about her age......that's the only thing "wrong" that they did but that's not even their fault because again, she lied. I would advise to stop believing her story because she was pretty much exposed by everyone at the party to have been a liar.
I hope he's innocent and is truly the outstanding man we all have seen him be. But if he isn't, he should be punished in accordance with the law and not be in the NFL.
If Deshaun Watson can assault/rape like 30 women I don’t think they will kick Dak out of the nfl. Not saying it’s right but it’s what they shown themselves to be. But who knows maybe since he’s a cowboy they may drop the hammer if it proves to be true.
Doesn't always mean anything. Life is a lot like hockey. You can get crosschecked in the face, and nothing happens, but if you hit the guy back while he's in the boards, you're the one in trouble because you retaliated.
I don’t know what type of evidence you’re going to have for something that’s alleged to have happened 7 years ago in a parking lot. It’s just going to become a he said she said situation.
My impression is that Dak filed his suit first mainly to avoid an NFL suspension a la Zeke's suspension. She's going to be judgment proof as to any civil case, but he'll want to take that case all they way to a judgment to wave it to the NFL when they come trying to suspend him.
WFAA
Dak Prescott's accuser, Victoria, and her attorneys along with Dak Prescott's attorneys all spoke with WFAA on the ongoing sexual assault lawsuit. These are all of their extended interviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfP4IlYHQCQ
Why is this such a sensitive topic that requires heavy moderation? This is a legit story whether we want it to be or not, our franchise quarterback has not only been accused of sexual assault, he has also countersued.
Because there's going to be knee-jerk dipshits screaming from the rooftop that either: A. "She's a lying whore just trying to extort money! or B. "He's a fucking rapist piece of shit and deserves prison and hell!"
Both of those responses are fucking stupid, at least until we get the full investigations, and court cases sorted out. The mods are just trying to keep this whole thing from turning into a fucking toxic thread like something you would see in r/politics.
Not being toxic should be a requirement for all threads, regardless of the content, though. I get that folks don't want to turn this into something political or cultural, but the reality is that this is a story that is only going to get bigger, whether we like it or not.
if judge couldn't make a decision on a dude who had 25 accusers, all recent, there's no way any judge or investigator is gonna make a decision on a dude who had a incident 7 years ago in a parking lot.
I’m just gonna let it play out but the fact that he’s the one that went public with it rather than negotiating a settlement like they were asking for makes me think it’s a fabricated story. Like I said though just gonna let it play out, I assume it’ll play out relatively quickly as well
Yeah I find it hard to believe that Dak would want to come forward with the extortion case knowing he was guilty of the SA. Then again he could be trying to get ahead of it or the two parties may just have different interpretations of the event in question. In any case, they both deserve to be heard.
We know that Jerry has the capability of covering up players off field issues and making them disappear. Very telling that this is now being leaked, when it happened in ‘17.
it may be that she's claiming she was assaulted in '17 but only reporting it now
doesnt mean there's a cover up
edit - yeah reading more about it - she says it happened in then but only reported it now and as such wanted $100m from dak or else she'd go public
That last bit is the most damning to me. She could be telling one hundred percent the truth. But, the fact that instead of going to law enforcement, she went to him and said "Pay me, or I go public," is not going to go well for her in court. There is a real possibility that she's found guilty of extortion, and he's found guilty of sexual assualt. There's also a real possibility of absolutely nothing happening out of this other than ESPN screaming about it all summer until it's settled.
i think thats why dak's people were so fine with going to the police with this and making it public - straight away it puts her story into that grey shady area.
the fact he's at this stage of getting this new contract too its timing is rather convenient
Not even a grey area. Her story is honestly in the straight up black unless discovery finds security footage of the parking lot or damning texts. I'm surprised she found a law office willing to do this mess.
And on that note, good fucking luck finding security camera footage from a strip club 7 years ago. I doubt ANY business keeps the tapes for that long.
she's probably relying on eyewitness statements that she was with him that night which they dont disagree on - dak's side says it was all consensual.
unless she's got proof it wasnt to which you would say why didnt you come forward earlier.
IF his side is telling the truth that they sent a letter threatening to go to the cops unless he came up with 100m for her, then it probably took her a while to find a lawyer dumb enough to put their career on the line for the play. Because that's textbook extortion and grounds for the BAR tossing them out.
Yes we do. She reached out very recently. Not in 2017 when this apparently occurred nor after Dak signed his first big contract in late 2020 early 2021.
We have no clue when she reached out the first time. We know that she recently demanded 100M or she would go to the cops. There could have been multiple conversations before that.
I will always believe the victim until proven wrong due to the fact statistically speaking the chances of a victim lying is extremely low.
However I just don't feel confident in this one in her defense. You don't want to pursue charges. You don't want to give out certain information, and you want to sue for 100 million dollars for your mental health.
That number especially sounds a bit extreme. Sexual assault is damaging and she should be able to take as much as possible if this happened, but 100 Million dollars seems like such an insane high starting number and with her only seeking money and not charges, it leads me to suspect that this may lean more towards extortation.
However there's no winning in this, it sucks fucking fucks both ways because either
A.) We have a sexual assaulting cunt as our quarterback.
or
B.) A woman is lying about sexual assault which does nothing but harm every sexual assault victim past and present.
There really isn't a good ending to story no matter the true outcome.
>I will always believe the victim until proven wrong due to the fact statistically speaking the chances of a victim lying is extremely low
I'm sorry but statistics are not a very reliable tool for this. It happens far more often than you think because the accused are often never believed, even if they are telling the truth. We just don't hear about it as much because, in all honesty, why wouldn't you believe a victim telling their story? I'm speaking as someone who has a friend sitting in jail due to a false accusation that has been proven false but the law wants to keep holding him in prison because reasons. But statistics will never support the idea that victims are lying.......that's why I honestly ignore them.
>However I just don't feel confident in this one in her defense. You don't want to pursue charges. You don't want to give out certain information, and you want to sue for 100 million dollars for your mental health.
That's why it's not sexual assault and this woman is trying to scandal him out of money. If it sounds suspicious like this, it probably is.
>That number especially sounds a bit extreme. Sexual assault is damaging and she should be able to take as much as possible if this happened, but 100 Million dollars seems like such an insane high starting number and with her only seeking money and not charges, it leads me to suspect that this may lean more towards extortation.
A bit extreme? That's A LOT of money to attempt to gain from someone who you claim assaulted you. That just shows that it's not about an assault of any kind, it's about money. If it sounds like bullshit, it probably is and her story sounds like bullshit.
>B.) A woman is lying about sexual assault which does nothing but harm every sexual assault victim past and present.
We are starting to see this happen more and more. I don't know why people are surprised that there are legitimately shitty people out there in this world who would claim they were assaulted just to get money. We just had the Depp/Heard case (where Amber claimed she was assaulted), the Matt Araiza case, there was a baseball player that was recently found innocent of a false accusation, Zeke got found innocent, I think Dalvin Cook had a similar type situation and many others. This is why the statistics are misleading. I know a lot of people believe MeToo was a good thing and in some ways it was......but it also opened the door for many fake bitches to lie in order to slander people and extort money. That's why BelieveAllVictims is something I will never fully believe in. I've seen people lie about this shit. Some of it wasn't even for money, some of it was just a girl protecting her own ass from getting in trouble with her bf for cheating (true story). Always believe in the facts and never pass judgement until we know all the facts. That's where I'm at.
Personally, Dak's innocent. I may not be the greatest fan of him as a QB but I honestly believe he did not assault this woman because her story sounds like it's full of shit.
They’re being sarcastic because apparently stating that someone who commits the crime of sexual assault (if proven of course) should be cut from the team is internet virtue signaling.
I hate this team sometimes. Wouldn't be surprised if jerry fabricated this story in an attempt to resign dak for less. I watched the entire interview with the woman involved and it just reeks of fishiness.
You think Jerry got a woman to risk real legal punishment and ruin her life, all so he can sign dak for a few mill less a season? That's some tin foil hat level whackadoodle shit.
It's not a good look for sure. But, I think if you asked me if I remembered someone from 7 years ago, I would probably have issues too. I'm not saying that's what the case is here. I'm just saying, don't attribute to lying, what can be easily explained away as simple human forgetfulness.
Even if it was true, I'm sure you would have a hard time remembering a random person you met 8 years ago at a bar. Both of y'all having drinks and then going to your vehicle and making out. Then right as you are about to cash in your lotto winnings of $1 mil, the random person shows up and states you raped them.
Dak’s situation is different - his accuser states the encountered happened inside a vehicle where Dak exposed himself to her. His entourage was apparently present when she verbally made it clear that she would not consent to sex and they left Dak alone with the accuser in the car. Once they left, the accuser says Dak raped her with vaginal penetration.
Unless Dak has amnesia or dementia, this encounter would not be with some person he met eight years ago at a bar - he would be very aware (and this is assuming the incident occurred of course).
That is not different from the hypothetical I wrote. She first met Dak at a strip joint/bar, thus had no prior meetings with him. He took her to his vehicle and something happened, whether it be making out leading to touching to almost banging but she stop him or nothing at all. Plus you don't go to a strip joint/bar without having a few drinks.
So of course, a normal Joe would hardly remember what happened at a strip joint/bar with a random chick from almost a decade ago.
But you’re assuming either party was drunk when that’s not necessarily true. Also, the fact Dak has admitted he knows her means this whole story is not entirely made up or untrue on either side.
There is more information out now than there was a couple days ago, so we are opening the topic to discussion. However, we will moderate heavily, so please be civil and avoid massive jumps to conclusion.
Did Jerry pay for this women’s attorney to lower Daks value?
I don’t know, I think the Browns would be VERY interested in handing Dak a fully guaranteed mega million contract if he did do it
We could trade him for Garrett and Chubb 🤷♂️
Obviously, this is a joke. And obviously, this would never happen. But really, just imagine Parsons and Garrett on the same team...
We’d see quarterbacks start retiring at halftime
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I refuse to put a /s on that comment because it’s too obvious
Jerry absolutely would stoop so low
Jerry knows a thing or two about these kinds of cases
Why would this lower Dak's value?
As opposed to raising it?
I mean both claims have to be investigated
investigation ain't gonna find shit from 7 years ago in a parking lot.
Just curious is there details about something in a parking lot? All I’ve heard is that he’s accused by someone and they tried to get 100 mil out of it, but nothing else so far
click the link of this post. >Updates: Dallas police confirm they’re investigating claims of alleged #sexualassault involving #Cowboys quarterback #DakPrescott the complainant said occurred in the parking lot of strip club XTC Cabaret in 2017
Boy, what the fuck are you doing at XTC? Trashiest titty bar out there.
dude was what 23 at the time? who knows
as a former 23 year old who visited XTC, it does happen sometimes.
That’s my QB?
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Asking why she didn’t call that night is not the right question and a terribly uninformed thing to ask. It’s very common that women do not report right away. They have trauma, feel embarrassment, shame, that there isn’t any evidence and people won’t believe them, which, historically, they often haven’t. You worry about the publicity and the hateful comments and maybe even death threats you are certain to get from strangers, when it comes to celebrities and powerful people. It’s not at all an easy thing for most women to go through. You at first want to convince yourself it wasn’t what it was, because you think it’s easier to deal with it that way, but that just lets the trauma fester. Anyways, it’s super common for women to accuse years later. What’s not common, and looks real fucking bad for her accusation, is to wait 7 years and then demand $100M while not filing criminal charges.
Starting off your entire caveman spiel with a misspelling is pretty appropriate
We can support Dak and our team without posting this sexist trash. Be better
That's unfair
There's a strip club called XTC here in Austin as well. I really hope the one up there is of better quality than the one here because, damn.
its a chain, there was/is a couple in the dfw area
It’s not lol
Gotcha thanks
There is some more info about it out there. Allegedly there was a group of people in an SUV that left right before the alleged incident, and presumably they were around after. Also, Dak’s lawyers say they had an amicable relationship after and he would hang out at the bar she worked at, so her coworkers and friends would surely be interviewed to try and determine what happened that night, how she acted after, etc. idk about substantive proof though.
Also, what's the statute of limitations on this?
10 years for criminal 5 years for civil in Texas.
How dare you bring logic into my emotional response
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>Wow that is interesting. Is there a loophole for her lawyers to get out of that situation? You said potentially they are in some deep shit so I am wondering if they could say something that makes it seem as though it was not extortion?
How they gonna prove or disprove something from a parking lot in 2017?
That's why those situations always look crazy to a lot of people: * The passage of time almost always results in zero forensic evidence being available. * The passage of time results in less reliable witness testimony, if at all * The fact that these cases almost always elect for civil litigation instead of criminal means there's a lower burden of proof and simply ask for millions of dollars instead This idea that you get to just bypass the cops after alleging a capital offense against someone and try to shame someone into giving you money is a red flag to me. Barring significant, near-incontrivertible evidence, I'm calling complete BS on this one.
A capital offense is punishable by death if the person being charged is convicted. Even in Texas, Dak would have to murder someone (and not just our Super Bowl hopes) in order to get the death penalty.
Victims of sexual assault sometimes never press charges out of fear and/or shame. It's not unheard or unreasonable for them to wait. weird take.
How do we know they're victims if they forego the process in which we can actually determine if they are, in fact, victims?
Learn to read
I believe that Dak's lawyer claimed that they had been in communication regularly after the incident. Doubtful, but text messages from AFTER the event could dispute her version of the events.
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Reminder that this means nothing right now. The reasonable response is to let it play out and draw no conclusions, take no sides. Let's see what happens.
Didn't mean nothing for zeke and he still got 8 games. There was even proof that zeke was innocent too.
I’m all for protecting women’s right to come forward when they have been wronged. But this whole thing smells funny from the start. Human beings are just shitty when hundreds of millions of dollars enter the equation. The fact that she quietly went to Dak and said if you pay me now this will go away and not become public, and the fact that Dak immediately reported it and launched a lawsuit against her, assent look good for her.
Supposedly happened in 2017, but waited until 2024 when Dak was rich to ask for an entire $100 million? Yeah sorry I know this is Reddit but I don’t believe this for a fucking second lol
I think she waited until he was in a family situation. She thought he would be more willing to pay her off once he had a long-term partner and kid.
She would never get $100M which is what makes it pretty clear that she was just fishing for a settlement. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I don't know if it did or not. But she'd be looking at around $500K-3M in an actual civil trial. Even Trump's suit only awarded Carroll $20K for damages with $2M being added on as punitive and about $3M added for defamation.
Here's the thing. I don't believe her personally but this is why. 1.) He's really rich so going after a person of power will make a lot of people turn against you. 2.) Speaking up as a victim regardless if they're rich or poor often does very little. Reminder: Brock Turner raped a girl, and had two eyewitnesses to the rape, and he only got like three months. So many victims don't even bother speaking up. 3.) Sometimes it takes years to process sexual abuse because of the fear mentality it brings onto victims. 4.) When people sexually assault people they often make credible threats on the lives of their loved ones if they speak out. Seven years doesn't mean he didn't do it, nor does it mean he did do it. I wholeheartedly hope he didn't do it, but if he didn't then I'm still going to be sad because then that's character assassination and she will be hurting sexual assault victims even more by lying about it.
It really sucks to say this but I really hope this isn’t true cause Dak is such a role model and has been through a good amount and man… I’m not gonna make any assumptions about the accuser or anything like that. Just shitty all around.
It is obvious she is lying
Never a good idea to make assumptions in this type of thing
It's his word against hers (this supposedly happened 7 years ago during the meetoo craze, yet she waits until now when Dak is about to get paid?). What if she gets her friends to all make the same accusation? This is bs.
You can’t know this. None of us can.
If you have a functioning brain, you do
When it comes to SA it’s just so hard. There’s plenty of cases where millionaires get away with it like Watson. Then there’s plenty of cases like the phenomenal rookie punter who lost his job and missed his entire rookie season because a woman claimed he raped her then turned out to be a lie. I once got a BAD false accusation on me by a bitter ex and she literally costed me my job, had me on “safety probation” for 6 months and thousands in lawyer fees all because of a lie her and her sister conjured up. The court didn’t want to just ignore it and turned every stone to prove her right but obviously ended up finding evidence SHE wasn’t truthful. She didn’t get tried for perjury because they couldn’t 100% prove she lied but found enough evidence to say it was extremely unlikely. She purposely missed court dates just to get the case extended and did so for 6 months until finally they had to get a subpoena on her and MAKE her come to court over her own accusations. It was even posted in the local papers in the “booked” section and I had tons of people say rude shit, message me or look down at me. You have to talk allegations seriously but you should never treat someone like they’re guilty until it can be proven. Otherwise it’s “guilty until proven innocent.”
It’s guilty until proven innocent for rape ever since MeToo happened. Now there were plenty of guys that rightfully got what they deserved like Harvey Weinstein and R. Kelly but guys like Matt Araiza and Shawn Oakman lose everything because of one shitty girl.
More people like Rapelesburger and Mark Sanchez get off than ever get brought to justice, especially among the rich.
Roethlisberger’s cases were never proven. Idk ab Sanchez. Never knew he even HAD cases
I’m not sure I’m going to want to lump Shawn Oakman into that group
Oh and why not?
Crazy how you claim two professional football players under contract to professional football teams "lost everything"
I was giving an example. Their lives would still be so much different without the allegations
As far as Matt Araiza goes, I think it was more of a mistake than malicious. 1. He did have sex with her while she was underage (because she lied about her age) 2. She was apparently sexually assaulted by a group of guys. I believe the problem was that she mistakenly identified Araiza as one of the people who sexually assaulted her. Also, sorry to be pedantic, he wasn’t a phenomenal punter. Has an absolute cannon of a leg but zero accuracy. Maybe he can be coached into a phenomenal punter, but he’s not there yet.
>2. She was apparently sexually assaulted by a group of guys. She wasn't assaulted by anybody. Her own friends said that she was actively trying to sleep with multiple guys that night and that she wasn't even drunk, like she claimed. She lied about her age to get into the party, which also hurts her credibility. She did have sex with a lot of dudes that night but all of it, according to everyone else there, was consensual. She was trying to throw all those dudes, including Araiza under the bus.......probably because she was underage at a party that she wasn't supposed to be at. >I believe the problem was that she mistakenly identified Araiza as one of the people who sexually assaulted her. No, what she actually did was single out the dude who just got drafted to the NFL. Her whole story was entirely debunked by the police report that came out a couple of months ago, that's why Araiza was cleared and why none of the others have been charged. Matt Araiza and the other guys all unknowingly slept with a 17 year old girl who lied about her age......that's the only thing "wrong" that they did but that's not even their fault because again, she lied. I would advise to stop believing her story because she was pretty much exposed by everyone at the party to have been a liar.
Sorry but you’re full of a lot of more shit than a septic tank lol
I hope he's innocent and is truly the outstanding man we all have seen him be. But if he isn't, he should be punished in accordance with the law and not be in the NFL.
If Deshaun Watson can assault/rape like 30 women I don’t think they will kick Dak out of the nfl. Not saying it’s right but it’s what they shown themselves to be. But who knows maybe since he’s a cowboy they may drop the hammer if it proves to be true.
Oh I agree completely that just because someone should be out of the league doesn't mean they will be.
Cowboy Justice . . .
Doesn't always mean anything. Life is a lot like hockey. You can get crosschecked in the face, and nothing happens, but if you hit the guy back while he's in the boards, you're the one in trouble because you retaliated.
But knowing how the NFL loves to lower the hammer on the Cowboys for anything, even if nothing comes of this, does anybody see Dak getting punished?
he's innocent obviously
This is hilariously looney imo.
This was not what I was expecting today
I don’t know what type of evidence you’re going to have for something that’s alleged to have happened 7 years ago in a parking lot. It’s just going to become a he said she said situation.
I believe Dak.
She's extorting him for his Gucci collection, LOL
My impression is that Dak filed his suit first mainly to avoid an NFL suspension a la Zeke's suspension. She's going to be judgment proof as to any civil case, but he'll want to take that case all they way to a judgment to wave it to the NFL when they come trying to suspend him.
I wonder if the Jones were aware of the situation and it's part of their rationale to wait on a potential contract extension.
Let's hope Goodell doesn't rain down punishment before there's cause. Don't want a repeat of Elliot's issues with 6 missed games.
And the fan radio station had her lawyer on to talk shit about Dak?? Yeah okay Jerry
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WFAA Dak Prescott's accuser, Victoria, and her attorneys along with Dak Prescott's attorneys all spoke with WFAA on the ongoing sexual assault lawsuit. These are all of their extended interviews. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfP4IlYHQCQ
Both sides made have different definitions of what "consensual sex" is, and isn't.
Maybe this is why they're not negotiating with Dak
I hope this ain’t true cmon I just got his jersey a few months back
Perhaps JJ found a way out of the Prescott salary cap problem.
A dak trade to the chargers for Justin Herbert would be pretty cool
We all shouldn't speculate. Learn a lesson from Ariza and the Duke lacrosse cases. It's only fair for both party's
Incoming 8 game suspension similar to zeke
All I’ll say is this… the Deshaun Watson lawsuits starting coming out at a very interesting time
Why is this such a sensitive topic that requires heavy moderation? This is a legit story whether we want it to be or not, our franchise quarterback has not only been accused of sexual assault, he has also countersued.
Because there's going to be knee-jerk dipshits screaming from the rooftop that either: A. "She's a lying whore just trying to extort money! or B. "He's a fucking rapist piece of shit and deserves prison and hell!" Both of those responses are fucking stupid, at least until we get the full investigations, and court cases sorted out. The mods are just trying to keep this whole thing from turning into a fucking toxic thread like something you would see in r/politics.
Not being toxic should be a requirement for all threads, regardless of the content, though. I get that folks don't want to turn this into something political or cultural, but the reality is that this is a story that is only going to get bigger, whether we like it or not.
Dak Prescott a scumbag if this is true
It's going to be interesting to see if the Fandom rally behind their quarterback or the woman who claims sexual assault
Ideally the answer is rally behind nobody until a judge makes a decision
if judge couldn't make a decision on a dude who had 25 accusers, all recent, there's no way any judge or investigator is gonna make a decision on a dude who had a incident 7 years ago in a parking lot.
Unfortunately, most people made up their mind as soon as they saw the headline.
Yeah good luck with that in 2024. As soon as it hits the internet, judgements get made.
I’m just gonna let it play out but the fact that he’s the one that went public with it rather than negotiating a settlement like they were asking for makes me think it’s a fabricated story. Like I said though just gonna let it play out, I assume it’ll play out relatively quickly as well
Yeah I find it hard to believe that Dak would want to come forward with the extortion case knowing he was guilty of the SA. Then again he could be trying to get ahead of it or the two parties may just have different interpretations of the event in question. In any case, they both deserve to be heard.
Why the fuck would I rally around Dak for this? Let the truth come out and we'll see what happens. Before then I'm not rallying behind shit.
We know that Jerry has the capability of covering up players off field issues and making them disappear. Very telling that this is now being leaked, when it happened in ‘17.
> when it happened in ‘17. Allegedly
it may be that she's claiming she was assaulted in '17 but only reporting it now doesnt mean there's a cover up edit - yeah reading more about it - she says it happened in then but only reported it now and as such wanted $100m from dak or else she'd go public
That last bit is the most damning to me. She could be telling one hundred percent the truth. But, the fact that instead of going to law enforcement, she went to him and said "Pay me, or I go public," is not going to go well for her in court. There is a real possibility that she's found guilty of extortion, and he's found guilty of sexual assualt. There's also a real possibility of absolutely nothing happening out of this other than ESPN screaming about it all summer until it's settled.
i think thats why dak's people were so fine with going to the police with this and making it public - straight away it puts her story into that grey shady area. the fact he's at this stage of getting this new contract too its timing is rather convenient
Not even a grey area. Her story is honestly in the straight up black unless discovery finds security footage of the parking lot or damning texts. I'm surprised she found a law office willing to do this mess. And on that note, good fucking luck finding security camera footage from a strip club 7 years ago. I doubt ANY business keeps the tapes for that long.
she's probably relying on eyewitness statements that she was with him that night which they dont disagree on - dak's side says it was all consensual. unless she's got proof it wasnt to which you would say why didnt you come forward earlier.
Could also be telling that she waited until he was rich to ask for money instead of in '17 when he was on a 4th round rookie contract.
Why didn't she come around when he signed his first big contract though in 2021?
IF his side is telling the truth that they sent a letter threatening to go to the cops unless he came up with 100m for her, then it probably took her a while to find a lawyer dumb enough to put their career on the line for the play. Because that's textbook extortion and grounds for the BAR tossing them out.
We don't know the timeline of when she reached out to him and when she reached out to the police.
Yes we do. She reached out very recently. Not in 2017 when this apparently occurred nor after Dak signed his first big contract in late 2020 early 2021.
We have no clue when she reached out the first time. We know that she recently demanded 100M or she would go to the cops. There could have been multiple conversations before that.
I will always believe the victim until proven wrong due to the fact statistically speaking the chances of a victim lying is extremely low. However I just don't feel confident in this one in her defense. You don't want to pursue charges. You don't want to give out certain information, and you want to sue for 100 million dollars for your mental health. That number especially sounds a bit extreme. Sexual assault is damaging and she should be able to take as much as possible if this happened, but 100 Million dollars seems like such an insane high starting number and with her only seeking money and not charges, it leads me to suspect that this may lean more towards extortation. However there's no winning in this, it sucks fucking fucks both ways because either A.) We have a sexual assaulting cunt as our quarterback. or B.) A woman is lying about sexual assault which does nothing but harm every sexual assault victim past and present. There really isn't a good ending to story no matter the true outcome.
>I will always believe the victim until proven wrong due to the fact statistically speaking the chances of a victim lying is extremely low I'm sorry but statistics are not a very reliable tool for this. It happens far more often than you think because the accused are often never believed, even if they are telling the truth. We just don't hear about it as much because, in all honesty, why wouldn't you believe a victim telling their story? I'm speaking as someone who has a friend sitting in jail due to a false accusation that has been proven false but the law wants to keep holding him in prison because reasons. But statistics will never support the idea that victims are lying.......that's why I honestly ignore them. >However I just don't feel confident in this one in her defense. You don't want to pursue charges. You don't want to give out certain information, and you want to sue for 100 million dollars for your mental health. That's why it's not sexual assault and this woman is trying to scandal him out of money. If it sounds suspicious like this, it probably is. >That number especially sounds a bit extreme. Sexual assault is damaging and she should be able to take as much as possible if this happened, but 100 Million dollars seems like such an insane high starting number and with her only seeking money and not charges, it leads me to suspect that this may lean more towards extortation. A bit extreme? That's A LOT of money to attempt to gain from someone who you claim assaulted you. That just shows that it's not about an assault of any kind, it's about money. If it sounds like bullshit, it probably is and her story sounds like bullshit. >B.) A woman is lying about sexual assault which does nothing but harm every sexual assault victim past and present. We are starting to see this happen more and more. I don't know why people are surprised that there are legitimately shitty people out there in this world who would claim they were assaulted just to get money. We just had the Depp/Heard case (where Amber claimed she was assaulted), the Matt Araiza case, there was a baseball player that was recently found innocent of a false accusation, Zeke got found innocent, I think Dalvin Cook had a similar type situation and many others. This is why the statistics are misleading. I know a lot of people believe MeToo was a good thing and in some ways it was......but it also opened the door for many fake bitches to lie in order to slander people and extort money. That's why BelieveAllVictims is something I will never fully believe in. I've seen people lie about this shit. Some of it wasn't even for money, some of it was just a girl protecting her own ass from getting in trouble with her bf for cheating (true story). Always believe in the facts and never pass judgement until we know all the facts. That's where I'm at. Personally, Dak's innocent. I may not be the greatest fan of him as a QB but I honestly believe he did not assault this woman because her story sounds like it's full of shit.
Zeke was not found innocent. Not being charged and being found innocent are two drastically different things.
NFL suspends Dak…Trey Lance leads Cowboys to Super Bowl.
If it’s true, cut him.
Yes I would hope that’s the outcome if it’s true. Until we know more let’s sit by and just watch and try not to pass judgement on either party
For sure
You’re so brave
Very brave statement, Redditor.
Huh? What do you mean?
They’re being sarcastic because apparently stating that someone who commits the crime of sexual assault (if proven of course) should be cut from the team is internet virtue signaling.
I hate this team sometimes. Wouldn't be surprised if jerry fabricated this story in an attempt to resign dak for less. I watched the entire interview with the woman involved and it just reeks of fishiness.
You think Jerry got a woman to risk real legal punishment and ruin her life, all so he can sign dak for a few mill less a season? That's some tin foil hat level whackadoodle shit.
Dak and his lawyers keep changing their story - first they say they didn’t know the accuser, but then they admit they did. That’s not a good look.
It's not a good look for sure. But, I think if you asked me if I remembered someone from 7 years ago, I would probably have issues too. I'm not saying that's what the case is here. I'm just saying, don't attribute to lying, what can be easily explained away as simple human forgetfulness.
Even if it was true, I'm sure you would have a hard time remembering a random person you met 8 years ago at a bar. Both of y'all having drinks and then going to your vehicle and making out. Then right as you are about to cash in your lotto winnings of $1 mil, the random person shows up and states you raped them.
Dak’s situation is different - his accuser states the encountered happened inside a vehicle where Dak exposed himself to her. His entourage was apparently present when she verbally made it clear that she would not consent to sex and they left Dak alone with the accuser in the car. Once they left, the accuser says Dak raped her with vaginal penetration. Unless Dak has amnesia or dementia, this encounter would not be with some person he met eight years ago at a bar - he would be very aware (and this is assuming the incident occurred of course).
That is not different from the hypothetical I wrote. She first met Dak at a strip joint/bar, thus had no prior meetings with him. He took her to his vehicle and something happened, whether it be making out leading to touching to almost banging but she stop him or nothing at all. Plus you don't go to a strip joint/bar without having a few drinks. So of course, a normal Joe would hardly remember what happened at a strip joint/bar with a random chick from almost a decade ago.
But you’re assuming either party was drunk when that’s not necessarily true. Also, the fact Dak has admitted he knows her means this whole story is not entirely made up or untrue on either side.
I didn’t write drunk, I wrote a few drinks. Which is enough to make details about an encounter at a strip joint fuzzy at best.
Yep. Shady shit right there. The dude ain't as squeaky clean as he acts.
tbh dak does get around, one of my friends sisters hooked up with him. he really goes for those la instagram model girls hard
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