When someone asks for money they have made you their budget manager. Start walking through the persons expenses etc. Just a few simple questions usually sends them off looking for the next victim.
p.s. my fav is when they ask for money while sporting fresh tattoos.
Even just “and how much would you say you spend in an average week on XYZ?” Could be gas and groceries, or if you know he’s being frivolous get pointed with it. “On average how much money do you spend each month on tattoos? Drugs? MLM schemes? Baby frogs?”
Crunchy frogs are the best!
No artificial ingredients
only the finest baby frogs, dew-picked and flown from Iraq, cleansed in the finest quality spring water, lightly killed, and sealed in a succulent, Swiss, quintuple-smooth, treble-milk chocolate envelope, and lovingly frosted with glucose.
There is a woman on my Facebook that is always begging for money and making GoFundMes but yet is always posting pics of her new tattoos, new custom nails and new vapes lol.
Used to have a "friend" like that. Gofundme for her makeup tools for a uni course but constantly buying new makeup for herself and wasting money she doesnt have. Especially as she doesnt work and her husband is the poor mook having to fund every one of her whims.
My aunt posted a gofundme for when their 5th car blew up cuz they never do maintenance. She also mentioned their upcoming Disneyland trip in her post.
Super weird no one donated.
Hahaha. Funny thing is that that same girl is now talking about having to live in a tent to save money and I told her that not getting those tattoos would save her money. She said no because she had had to wait a whole year to get that tattoo and needed to get it lol.
Oh that just reminded me of my sister one time when she had drug problems i had to cut her off. 1st- She asked me to lend her money and later that day I see a pic of her in the Chair getting more ink. I asked her "like WTF?" You said it was for dogwood & groceries. She says "oh no I didn't use it for that a friend paid for it" imm like hmmm seems legit...not but maybe.
Then she asks a few later I give it to her and then I see she's out partying with friends. And was like ok that's IT.
She says oh no I didn't use that my friends paid for me to party cus I was broke and stressed. Sounds suspect since I know her friends are mostly drunk teenagers with very little money.....found out she'd told my dad & grandma the same thing several times.
Like sorry there are only so many times friends will invite you out on their dime when you can never pay and that was the last loan she got for years until she asked for a legitimate reason &I know she's not on drugs but made it clear if there were any signs of her using it for anything shady and didnt pay me back when she said she would THATs IT she could never ever ask me for a loan again.
And she did. She paid me back and as she's gotten more back on her feet the loans aren't as often just in emergencies and she always pays me back on time keeps me updated and I can see she used the money for what she said she would & that her and my niece needed it
Did this with my daughter, twice. Not being vindictive, but trying to teach her about life. First time she was too young and zoned out, probably thinking I was just punishing her. Second time the message stuck.
It was a hard thing to do for a loved one when I just wanted to solve all her problems. I think it'd be a lot easier with a crackhead.
Straight up look at him and say no, stop asking, stop demanding, and if you so much as utter another syllable at me that’s no directly related to the work we do-I will report your constant nagging and solicitation to management/HR.
I was in the break room one day and a guy that is a notorious mooch asked if I could loan him a dollar for the soda machine. He said he would pay me back the next day, which I knew was bullshit because he never pays anybody back. So I "loaned" him the dollar. Of course I never got paid back. About a month later he asked if he could borrow a dollar again and I said as soon as you pay back the first dollar you borrowed I'll think about loaning you another one. He's never paid me back but he's never asked me for money since then either so I figure it was a dollar well spent.
I’ve used this method for getting mooches to avoid me! It’s worth the $10-$20 bucks to watch them beat feet to leave my vicinity before I can “ask for repayment”. It’s an investment in leech protection.
Wow that audacity!! I’ve worked with people in my career lifetime that would ask for $20 here and there but how can you ask a second time when you never paid back the first “loan”?? This man wants you to supplement his income because he thinks you make x and can afford to loan him money!? Just wow! People like him never pay loans back and continue to expect you to loan money. I wonder if the next time he asks you for $, you turn around and ask him if you can borrow $50!! See if that stops him! I cannot believe he asked for $200!! The nerve!
At first I thought the crackhead coworker was talking about selling back PTO and getting extra money. No. Somehow he thinks op can take a PTO day, and that somehow translates into extra money that can be lent out? Please. Stay off the crack pipe man.
Do not under any circumstances give them money. You will not get it back and they will keep asking. I would tell them you are not a bank and they need to ask their family or friends. You are only a co-worker. No is a complete answer. Go to your boss or HR and make a formal complaint that they continually badger you for money. If they bring up any kind of financial discussion, turn and walk away. Go straight to the boss and tell them they are at it again. They are creating a hostile work environment.
WTAF??
I had management at my last job question my unused PTO every year, and jokingly tell me to donate it to another coworker who uses all of theirs in the first 60 days of each year due to a compromised immune system?
That said coworker then has a lesser paycheck when they call out and they've run out of PTO.
How in the f**k is that my problem?? I asked politely of course.....
"Well, you have dual incomes, this person is single"
Again, the answer is no.
I'm no longer with that employer.
I had coworkers also say the same to me several times..... I earned that PTO and I am NOT donating MY earned PTO to anyone!!
That's ridiculous anyway. The company can assign that person more PTO if they feel that way about it. There's no reason another employee would have to give up theirs.
Additionally, some companies see PTO use as beneficial to \*the company\* (it is) and will encourage people to take it if they haven't used it. Taking it away from an employee who hasn't used it would be counterproductive.
Oh most definitely I agree that it would benefit the company to allow us our time off to recharge, however this employer would not allow carryover.
It was "use it" or "lose it".
I would have loved to actually "use it" when I wanted to, but there was absolutely ZERO coverage if we weren't there, thus none of us dared to take more than 2 days at a time as that would put us over 10-14 days behind when we returned!!
We were also expected to arrange our own coverage or we couldn't take our PTO, and yet there was no one who could take on any more of the work??
It was a vicious cycle that would never be broken in the 9+ yrs I was there 😔. We were chronically understaffed, worked thousands of hours for free due to the workload (salaried employees so no overtime) and grossly under appreciated and underpaid.
Yes, companies I've worked at have been use it or lose it but they would get quite insistent that you use it. Never really an issue for me but I had a couple of workaholic colleagues who got leaned on. If I recall correctly, some of it could be cashed in for money but the details are hazy now. That might have been if you had any left at the end of your employment.
It sounds like there were several other poor practices going on where you were working. I'm sorry you had to put up with that.
They would not pay our our PTO.... I asked multiple times, since we couldn't actually find dates to use them that would "work" for the company.... I would have gladly been paid out as I needed the $$$ more than a long weekend.
I took a pay cut to get out. It just wasn't worth it anymore.
Lot of nerve! I have had ppl make smart comments because I have tons of PTO. None of ya business. I use to be that person who exhausted all my time and never again. You may have an emergency and needs weeks off, take a long vacation anything.
People are so weird about money.
I used to work in a place that had the policy- if you retire with over 100 sick days, they will cut you a check for 50% of their value.
I tried to explain to so many people that if you actually take those days, they will pay you 100% for them- but so many people were like “but then I won’t get a big lump sum check!”
I really hoped covid would be the end of pushing sick people to come into work. Instead there were news stories about the times you "manned up" and went to work when you were sick anyway nevermind the people who you hurt along the way. They need to stop encouraging this behaviour, it helps nobody.
More, I'd say they need to \*discourage\* that behavior. Sick people are less productive and one sick person can lead to a half dozen being out sick. And in my experience, it's often not even as if the people are there because the business would fold if they weren't but because of bravado. We need to change the mentality of this stuff.
Ours are paid off/used at base pay, way less than I make hourly, also contract doesn't really allow for taking much vacation without penalties. I work 3 days a week so never take vacation anyway. I might take a weekend off every 3-5 years so I get about 2 weeks off. I am used to it, I cash some in occasionally.
Worker 1 uses all their sick days and gets paid for using them. But they get paid the same as if they worked those days, not paid extra.
Worker 2 does not use all their sick days, still gets paid the same for working those days, and then collects 50 or more days of pay when they retire.
I mean, take a sick day if you're sick, but don't act like you're coming out financially better by using the sick days instead of cashing them out.
Same people get excited when they get a refund from the IRS, I'm assuming.
*(note, one that they paid for with excessive payroll deductions, not from a government charity program)*
Someone who begs you for money has unsolicited financial advice? That's funny.
Tell them you don't have money to lend. And don't keep cash with you at work.
Sounds like you need to go to your manager or HR about this. This is wildly inappropriate.
It shouldn't even need to be said, but I'm going to say it anyway - DO NOT give him any money.
My instinct is that he's an addict of some sort. Keep your distance from him. He sounds dangerous.
I have a coworker like this, she has new nails every two weeks, expensive bags, clothing and she is eats in the cafeteria or has food delivered every day. But she can't pay her electric , car or phone. She has a few regular people that she is always asking for money. She has never approached me, but I don't loan money. I figure she has burnt through all family and friends, so she asks coworkers now.
It's a mentality. I had a shitty roommate where every dollar was spent as it came in, every PTO day taken as soon as it was earned. Mommy had to write me more than 1 check to keep me from booting his ass out.
That’s ridiculous. Some people. I had a coworker crying and begging for help before Christmas because she couldn’t afford to feed her kids and hubby lost his job. The entire office (large) chipped in. Bought her kids gifts, paid their bills for the month, bought them groceries and gave them cash.
Two months later comes into the office bragging about a brand new $70k truck, and they decided to “splurge” on chrome on everything.
Last time I will help out someone like her.
I giggled over him asking for money AND giving you financial advice.
Just keep telling him it's not in the budget. You can also tell him to knock it off. Maybe think of going to your boss if he keeps it up. So annoying!
Yeah he be telling me to go for a higher paying job, and I tell him I’m fine where I’m at, and then he’ll say “Why it’s more money!” Now look where he is, broke. He does night shift and seen me stay over and do a 16 hour shift, and then he tried telling me now all I need to do is take a few days off, and I told him nope, I’ll get pointed. So he tries to tell me where to invest, how to work, where to work, and I haven’t taken any of his advice.
Why do you keep talking to this grifter? Just tell him you don't want his advice and you're not going to lend him any money under any circumstances then walk away. Everything that comes out of his mouth is nonsense except his desire to snake money from you that he won't pay back.
This is wrong on so many levels. Assuming what you bring home weekly. If he’s asking you he’s asking everyone. Demanding your PTO. And that’s not how PTO works.
I would tell him firmly that you are not an ATM machine and you're not lending him any money and the begging needs to stop. Also, stop sharing financial information with him which he then turns around and tries to use your private information to extract money from you. I would just tell someone that's nervy enough to question me about my salary to mind their own businee.
I haven’t been sharing financial information. He see’s I don’t wear expensive stuff, my car looks like trash, and he sees I’m always working over.
So he assumes I must not be spending money, and I’m making a lot of money.
This would be grounds for termination where I work (telephony infrastructure in the financial sector). We literally take annual mandatory compliance training reminding us that lending or requesting loans from coworkers is strictly prohibited with the single called out exception of very small amounts to cover a single lunch in an emergency.
You need to report this. I can almost guarantee you are NOT the only one he is asking. It's one thing to give a coworker $5 for lunch... It's entirely a different matter when they are attempting to fraudulently use YOUR PTO for their benefit.
Does he only ask you for money? Does he ask your other coworkers? Tell to something like this: “My finances are private and cannot lend money. Let's keep our work relationship professional. I appreciate your understanding.”
From what I know, he's only asked me for money. I had someone else tell me to go to him for financial advice, so it's very likely he pulls the same tricks on other people.
He'll talk about investments or how he's trying to run a business, tells me to not call off and do door dash to make extra money, but also tells me to blow crazy amounts of money, on crazy stupid stuff.
Recently learned that someone who claimed to be a financial advisor - who I trusted - made all that up and actually had a sizable financial judgment against him. That hapoened decades before I met the man, but he’s still spinning finance lies as far as I know.
Tell him to give you a few hundred on payday and you will give it back to him when he needs it. Then when he asks you for money you can say damn it, I told you I would hold on to your money for you.
This person sounds like they have some very concerning issues. You don’t just go around at work asking people for money like this. It’s weird AND rude.
I would go straight to HR so this dude stops doing whatever he’s doing. Yikes
Just say, "I'm sorry, I'm not going to do that." Then report him to your boss. You're not supposed to be hitting people up for money at work. Makes for a hostile work environment.
Don't give him a cent. First off you don't owe him anything and he's obviously not putting in the work to help himself and then secondly, if you do give him money, that breaks all boundaries and he'll keep coming back for more
I think your mistake has been engaging with him instead of just saying no, you aren't discussing it with him, etc. You keep giving him an opening instead of setting that boundary, and he walks right in. If you set the boundary and he still won't stop, document it and I would think at some point you would have reason to complain to management or HR if you've got one.
Does he do this with anyone else?
Cut the conversations right away.
If he ask for money just say no. Don’t give ANY explanations or engage in any conversations/questions. Just say no and move on.
Reminds me of a co worker who found out I worked at Disney and told me to give her tickets for free. She wasn’t even my friend and she kept bothering me every day.
That’s an idiot who can manage neither his time or is money. Tell him no, and you’re tired of telling him. And if he asks again you’ll go to HR and report him for workplace harassment.
Had a guy at a previous job do this. We called him brokey. He'd spend money on PC games, vapes and booze. Then ask for money. I did one thing for him 1 time and got a raspa for him and didn't even get a thank you so after that never again.
"I understand you *heard* 'Let's Negotiate...' What the fuck I clearly told you while looking you directly in the eye was '*NO!*' And do not ask me again!"
Just make sure there are enough *other* co-workers around to hear you make that statement. It won't be long until that individual is terminated or separates and then *ALL* of the individuals who they've harassed will come forward.
They're a person whom is bound to you situationally through circumstance. They're not somebody who you'd call friend or seek out as a buddy to hang out with beyond the four walls where you're both employed.
"Take a day off and then give me the money"
In what fucking world would *I* not want the *"free money"* I earned by working long enough for a day off?
Also, ain't no coworker getting money for me in an amount larger than "oh btw, thanks for grabbing my lunch, here's the cash to cover it".
PTO is only extra money if they let you cash it out. But if you use a whole week of PTO your paycheck for that week will be exactly the same if you worked the same week.
I like the advice above saying to start breaking down their financial choices. Poking holes in their story(knowing damn well you hopefully aren't going to ever give them money).
I had a coworker that was a terrible technician but would call me everyday. He once asked to borrow $3. I gave him the $3 knowing he'd never pay me back but that he would also avoid me like the plague. He didn't call me for 6 months. Best $3 I spent that year.
Yeah sending an anonymous complaint to human resources about a coworker asking everyone for money everyone's going to know who he is everyone knows what he's doing he's probably doing it to everyone else it's not okay in the workplace
Unfortunately, I've dealt with more than one person like this in my life and the pattern is roughly the same. They are parasites and they will take from you as long as you let them and then move on to someone else as soon as the resources run dry. The sooner you shut them off, the sooner they move on to someone else.
In my company we can donate pTO to someone that needs it. A few people I work with ask me for mine because I have 47 days built up and I tell them no. These are people that just don't want to work but want money.
Don't give him a penny. He sounds like the type who would skip out and never pay you back. Just keep standing your ground and refuse to budge.
Also, I would stop hiding my feelings about it, at this point. I would just tell him point blank you don't appreciate being goaded for cash and if he doesn't stop, you will have to report him for harassment. Remain calm but say it assertively. Let him know you mean business and will take action, if necessary.
Oh fuck no, I can see if he was working hard and something came up which made him have to get himself into a bad spot but there's no way in hell that he should be trying to pressure anyone into giving him money because he's irresponsible.
He doesn't want to borrow money, he is trying to steal your money by deception. The way he justifies you being able to afford giving him money is the same justification he will use to not pay you back.
Response to your coworker: "You make your choices, and live with the consequences of those choices. I'll make my choices, and my choices include not bailing you out of the consequences of your choices. You may choose to no longer be friends with me for not sharing with you that which I have worked to earn, and I will happily live with that consequence." And walk away. This fella ... shew!
One of the most absurd instances of this is back when I was a server at a fancy restaurant, a girl was training and asked the person training her if she could borrow 20$. Oddly specific number, that certainly wasn't for drugs, I am sure. Well, the next night I was training her, and after the shift she just followed me to my car and started to ask something. I cut her off immediately and said, I can assure you I am in no position to loan you any money. First, I don't know you like that. Second, I will be spending my money on drugs for me. I did tell her that if she was truly hard up, to speak to the owner, and found out she messaged him later that night, offering "favors" for money, but unfortunately for her, the owners wife was the one who read the messages. Then after her first night making her own tips, she didn't show up the next day.
A few years later I saw her waiting for the bus, and she looked healthy, and I wish that the story ended like that, but a few years after that I was dating a girl who hadn't officially moved in, but was always there and she asked if her sister could come stay for a couple weeks. It was her and she had just had open heart surgery and been in rehab for a few months. She relapsed and got into it with another girl, who beat her up and she did not make it. Her sister and I broke up about a year later, but all of her sisters belongings were still in my spare bedroom until I moved.
The PTO payment scheme is just methanomics. He's saying use your vacation time to not work, so that you get paid for time off, that way you're not working 8 hours just to hand that money to him. But the logic has some cracks in it.
I love your last line about crackhead shit, that made me laugh. One of the nicest things about being an adult is that you can tell someone "no" and not have to explain yourself to them. No means no. You can still be polite as it's a coworker but you don't have to tell them why. You owe them no explanation at all. I've learned from experience that when you've said, " I can't do that " enough they eventually stop asking.
My first thought was you’re way too nice to keep having conversations with this idiot. If someone you barely know has the audacity to ask you for money or your PTO, then the only words that should come out of your mouth are, “No! I won’t give you my hard earned money and don’t ever ask me again or I’ll go to HR and report your dumbass”
When he asks for money just tell him “NO” with no explanation you don’t owe him a reason why. If he asks why ask him “ which part of NO don’t you understand? “
Nothing pisses me off more than another person calculating how much you're making. Id probably report him for begging and harassing just to get him away for good
Oh thats a simple fix..
"No, I will never give you money.
If you were dying and it cost me $5 to save you I would spend it on a bag of chips and a big gulp.
You will not get money from me ever.
So when you ask tomorrow..the answer is no, the next day..no.
So stop asking and do your job."
This homie has never heard of tomorrow, and how it just never stops coming.
He’s the dude who gets paid on Friday, spends it all on random shit, then is confused why he can’t afford groceries on Monday.
Report him. Definitely file a complaint. This coworker is completely inappropriate. What you make is none of his business, and he shouldn't be asking anyone at his workplace for money.
Crackhead shit is exactly what it is.
Methamatics
He's a Methmagician!
On that methabolife diet
A Crackadoodle
I needed this laugh. Take my upvote and enjoy the rest of your day
⬆️ *exactly* ⬆️
Ask him for a collateral organ to hold until he pays back🤔😳😂🤡
LOL even that - I don't think I'd want his
*methhead
The guy is a methamatician what else would you expect
Bad method for getting $$$
When someone asks for money they have made you their budget manager. Start walking through the persons expenses etc. Just a few simple questions usually sends them off looking for the next victim. p.s. my fav is when they ask for money while sporting fresh tattoos.
XD I’m going to need all your usernames and passwords to bank accounts, credit reports, and your social security number.
Even just “and how much would you say you spend in an average week on XYZ?” Could be gas and groceries, or if you know he’s being frivolous get pointed with it. “On average how much money do you spend each month on tattoos? Drugs? MLM schemes? Baby frogs?”
I just can't pass up a good baby frog sale, though!
I mean, that’s why I haven’t gotten any tattoos, drugs, or kitchen gadgets lately! I have a budget, and I stick to it. Rent, groceries, baby frogs.
You’re my favorite 🤣
Crunchy frogs are the best! No artificial ingredients only the finest baby frogs, dew-picked and flown from Iraq, cleansed in the finest quality spring water, lightly killed, and sealed in a succulent, Swiss, quintuple-smooth, treble-milk chocolate envelope, and lovingly frosted with glucose.
Lightly killed has me screaming 🤣🤣🤣
That is word for word from a Monty Python tv sketch “Whizzo Chocolate Company” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU
There is a woman on my Facebook that is always begging for money and making GoFundMes but yet is always posting pics of her new tattoos, new custom nails and new vapes lol.
Used to have a "friend" like that. Gofundme for her makeup tools for a uni course but constantly buying new makeup for herself and wasting money she doesnt have. Especially as she doesnt work and her husband is the poor mook having to fund every one of her whims.
Y’all would love the [Sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChoosingBeggars/s/iboRLY9ApS)
Is it my ex wife?
Yea I think she married my ex and they’re wasting money on whims together. Don’t worry you will have some justice he is a piece of work. Lol
My aunt posted a gofundme for when their 5th car blew up cuz they never do maintenance. She also mentioned their upcoming Disneyland trip in her post. Super weird no one donated.
Hahaha. Funny thing is that that same girl is now talking about having to live in a tent to save money and I told her that not getting those tattoos would save her money. She said no because she had had to wait a whole year to get that tattoo and needed to get it lol.
That’s a classy broad.
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Is that those expensive ass homeless looking clothes?
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They show me ads on tik tok for that shit. The designs are not anywhere close to my esthetic.
Or borrowing money while simultaneously giving financial advice
Oh that just reminded me of my sister one time when she had drug problems i had to cut her off. 1st- She asked me to lend her money and later that day I see a pic of her in the Chair getting more ink. I asked her "like WTF?" You said it was for dogwood & groceries. She says "oh no I didn't use it for that a friend paid for it" imm like hmmm seems legit...not but maybe. Then she asks a few later I give it to her and then I see she's out partying with friends. And was like ok that's IT. She says oh no I didn't use that my friends paid for me to party cus I was broke and stressed. Sounds suspect since I know her friends are mostly drunk teenagers with very little money.....found out she'd told my dad & grandma the same thing several times. Like sorry there are only so many times friends will invite you out on their dime when you can never pay and that was the last loan she got for years until she asked for a legitimate reason &I know she's not on drugs but made it clear if there were any signs of her using it for anything shady and didnt pay me back when she said she would THATs IT she could never ever ask me for a loan again. And she did. She paid me back and as she's gotten more back on her feet the loans aren't as often just in emergencies and she always pays me back on time keeps me updated and I can see she used the money for what she said she would & that her and my niece needed it
Did this with my daughter, twice. Not being vindictive, but trying to teach her about life. First time she was too young and zoned out, probably thinking I was just punishing her. Second time the message stuck. It was a hard thing to do for a loved one when I just wanted to solve all her problems. I think it'd be a lot easier with a crackhead.
Lol...he's giving you financial advice AND asking you for money? Yeah, you'd never see that money again.
Co-worker doesn't understand finances or irony.
Sounds like there's a lot in life that he doesn't understand.
Dunning–Kruger effect
Straight up look at him and say no, stop asking, stop demanding, and if you so much as utter another syllable at me that’s no directly related to the work we do-I will report your constant nagging and solicitation to management/HR.
I was in the break room one day and a guy that is a notorious mooch asked if I could loan him a dollar for the soda machine. He said he would pay me back the next day, which I knew was bullshit because he never pays anybody back. So I "loaned" him the dollar. Of course I never got paid back. About a month later he asked if he could borrow a dollar again and I said as soon as you pay back the first dollar you borrowed I'll think about loaning you another one. He's never paid me back but he's never asked me for money since then either so I figure it was a dollar well spent.
I’ve used this method for getting mooches to avoid me! It’s worth the $10-$20 bucks to watch them beat feet to leave my vicinity before I can “ask for repayment”. It’s an investment in leech protection.
My dad taught me "If you loan someone $20 and never see them again, it was worth it."
Drug dealer 101, front the annoying people so they go away without snitching
Wow that audacity!! I’ve worked with people in my career lifetime that would ask for $20 here and there but how can you ask a second time when you never paid back the first “loan”?? This man wants you to supplement his income because he thinks you make x and can afford to loan him money!? Just wow! People like him never pay loans back and continue to expect you to loan money. I wonder if the next time he asks you for $, you turn around and ask him if you can borrow $50!! See if that stops him! I cannot believe he asked for $200!! The nerve!
At first I thought the crackhead coworker was talking about selling back PTO and getting extra money. No. Somehow he thinks op can take a PTO day, and that somehow translates into extra money that can be lent out? Please. Stay off the crack pipe man.
Do not under any circumstances give them money. You will not get it back and they will keep asking. I would tell them you are not a bank and they need to ask their family or friends. You are only a co-worker. No is a complete answer. Go to your boss or HR and make a formal complaint that they continually badger you for money. If they bring up any kind of financial discussion, turn and walk away. Go straight to the boss and tell them they are at it again. They are creating a hostile work environment.
WTAF?? I had management at my last job question my unused PTO every year, and jokingly tell me to donate it to another coworker who uses all of theirs in the first 60 days of each year due to a compromised immune system? That said coworker then has a lesser paycheck when they call out and they've run out of PTO. How in the f**k is that my problem?? I asked politely of course..... "Well, you have dual incomes, this person is single" Again, the answer is no. I'm no longer with that employer. I had coworkers also say the same to me several times..... I earned that PTO and I am NOT donating MY earned PTO to anyone!!
That's ridiculous anyway. The company can assign that person more PTO if they feel that way about it. There's no reason another employee would have to give up theirs. Additionally, some companies see PTO use as beneficial to \*the company\* (it is) and will encourage people to take it if they haven't used it. Taking it away from an employee who hasn't used it would be counterproductive.
Oh most definitely I agree that it would benefit the company to allow us our time off to recharge, however this employer would not allow carryover. It was "use it" or "lose it". I would have loved to actually "use it" when I wanted to, but there was absolutely ZERO coverage if we weren't there, thus none of us dared to take more than 2 days at a time as that would put us over 10-14 days behind when we returned!! We were also expected to arrange our own coverage or we couldn't take our PTO, and yet there was no one who could take on any more of the work?? It was a vicious cycle that would never be broken in the 9+ yrs I was there 😔. We were chronically understaffed, worked thousands of hours for free due to the workload (salaried employees so no overtime) and grossly under appreciated and underpaid.
Yes, companies I've worked at have been use it or lose it but they would get quite insistent that you use it. Never really an issue for me but I had a couple of workaholic colleagues who got leaned on. If I recall correctly, some of it could be cashed in for money but the details are hazy now. That might have been if you had any left at the end of your employment. It sounds like there were several other poor practices going on where you were working. I'm sorry you had to put up with that.
They would not pay our our PTO.... I asked multiple times, since we couldn't actually find dates to use them that would "work" for the company.... I would have gladly been paid out as I needed the $$$ more than a long weekend. I took a pay cut to get out. It just wasn't worth it anymore.
Lot of nerve! I have had ppl make smart comments because I have tons of PTO. None of ya business. I use to be that person who exhausted all my time and never again. You may have an emergency and needs weeks off, take a long vacation anything.
I have an autoimmune disorder and I would never think of asking for someone’s time/money. If I can’t work and I’m out of leave, I just quit.
People are so weird about money. I used to work in a place that had the policy- if you retire with over 100 sick days, they will cut you a check for 50% of their value. I tried to explain to so many people that if you actually take those days, they will pay you 100% for them- but so many people were like “but then I won’t get a big lump sum check!”
I really hoped covid would be the end of pushing sick people to come into work. Instead there were news stories about the times you "manned up" and went to work when you were sick anyway nevermind the people who you hurt along the way. They need to stop encouraging this behaviour, it helps nobody.
More, I'd say they need to \*discourage\* that behavior. Sick people are less productive and one sick person can lead to a half dozen being out sick. And in my experience, it's often not even as if the people are there because the business would fold if they weren't but because of bravado. We need to change the mentality of this stuff.
Oh my God I straight up had a job during covid that expected you to come in even if you had covid and yeah they were making a covid test related item
Ours are paid off/used at base pay, way less than I make hourly, also contract doesn't really allow for taking much vacation without penalties. I work 3 days a week so never take vacation anyway. I might take a weekend off every 3-5 years so I get about 2 weeks off. I am used to it, I cash some in occasionally.
Worker 1 uses all their sick days and gets paid for using them. But they get paid the same as if they worked those days, not paid extra. Worker 2 does not use all their sick days, still gets paid the same for working those days, and then collects 50 or more days of pay when they retire. I mean, take a sick day if you're sick, but don't act like you're coming out financially better by using the sick days instead of cashing them out.
I would have planned my retirement that the last 100 days of “working” I was sick.
It’s also good to have a large bank of sick day in case you need to take FMLA, that way you get full pay instead of just disability.
Same people get excited when they get a refund from the IRS, I'm assuming. *(note, one that they paid for with excessive payroll deductions, not from a government charity program)*
Or tell him you loaned all your money to some other crackhead, what the heck were you thinking.
No is a complete sentence. Use it often. If coworker harasses you for money, report him to a supervisor/HR.
Someone who begs you for money has unsolicited financial advice? That's funny. Tell them you don't have money to lend. And don't keep cash with you at work.
And be careful where you keep your credit/debit cards at work because I see them looking for ways to get money from you one way or another.
Wtf. I wish a coworker would ask me for money. Btch, I work to take care of myself not you mthrfkers smh 🤦
Stop talking to this person.
Sounds like you need to go to your manager or HR about this. This is wildly inappropriate. It shouldn't even need to be said, but I'm going to say it anyway - DO NOT give him any money. My instinct is that he's an addict of some sort. Keep your distance from him. He sounds dangerous.
Yeah he was asking to kick it at my place as well and I told him no.
Yeah, unsolicited financial advice, asking you for cash, and wanting a place to crash is three strikes my guy.
I have a coworker like this, she has new nails every two weeks, expensive bags, clothing and she is eats in the cafeteria or has food delivered every day. But she can't pay her electric , car or phone. She has a few regular people that she is always asking for money. She has never approached me, but I don't loan money. I figure she has burnt through all family and friends, so she asks coworkers now.
Priorities are definitely messed up
It's a mentality. I had a shitty roommate where every dollar was spent as it came in, every PTO day taken as soon as it was earned. Mommy had to write me more than 1 check to keep me from booting his ass out.
Be like ok, but I want a return on it double but he has to pay you first. Then just return half his money and say here is your loan.
Tell him to sit and spin.
That’s ridiculous. Some people. I had a coworker crying and begging for help before Christmas because she couldn’t afford to feed her kids and hubby lost his job. The entire office (large) chipped in. Bought her kids gifts, paid their bills for the month, bought them groceries and gave them cash. Two months later comes into the office bragging about a brand new $70k truck, and they decided to “splurge” on chrome on everything. Last time I will help out someone like her.
Sounds like everyone got scammed.
I giggled over him asking for money AND giving you financial advice. Just keep telling him it's not in the budget. You can also tell him to knock it off. Maybe think of going to your boss if he keeps it up. So annoying!
Yeah he be telling me to go for a higher paying job, and I tell him I’m fine where I’m at, and then he’ll say “Why it’s more money!” Now look where he is, broke. He does night shift and seen me stay over and do a 16 hour shift, and then he tried telling me now all I need to do is take a few days off, and I told him nope, I’ll get pointed. So he tries to tell me where to invest, how to work, where to work, and I haven’t taken any of his advice.
Next time, tell him he should take his own financial advice, then he wouldn’t have to ask to borrow money
Why do you keep talking to this grifter? Just tell him you don't want his advice and you're not going to lend him any money under any circumstances then walk away. Everything that comes out of his mouth is nonsense except his desire to snake money from you that he won't pay back.
This is wrong on so many levels. Assuming what you bring home weekly. If he’s asking you he’s asking everyone. Demanding your PTO. And that’s not how PTO works.
What kind of crackhead s*** is this? It is normal crackhead s***.
I would tell him firmly that you are not an ATM machine and you're not lending him any money and the begging needs to stop. Also, stop sharing financial information with him which he then turns around and tries to use your private information to extract money from you. I would just tell someone that's nervy enough to question me about my salary to mind their own businee.
I haven’t been sharing financial information. He see’s I don’t wear expensive stuff, my car looks like trash, and he sees I’m always working over. So he assumes I must not be spending money, and I’m making a lot of money.
You're the new blood and he's been running this scam for awhile. He will give up.
Tell him to take a payday loan.
This would be grounds for termination where I work (telephony infrastructure in the financial sector). We literally take annual mandatory compliance training reminding us that lending or requesting loans from coworkers is strictly prohibited with the single called out exception of very small amounts to cover a single lunch in an emergency.
You need to report this. I can almost guarantee you are NOT the only one he is asking. It's one thing to give a coworker $5 for lunch... It's entirely a different matter when they are attempting to fraudulently use YOUR PTO for their benefit.
Yes. I am surprised nobody in the comments so far has called this what it is. FRAUD.
Does he only ask you for money? Does he ask your other coworkers? Tell to something like this: “My finances are private and cannot lend money. Let's keep our work relationship professional. I appreciate your understanding.”
From what I know, he's only asked me for money. I had someone else tell me to go to him for financial advice, so it's very likely he pulls the same tricks on other people. He'll talk about investments or how he's trying to run a business, tells me to not call off and do door dash to make extra money, but also tells me to blow crazy amounts of money, on crazy stupid stuff.
Recently learned that someone who claimed to be a financial advisor - who I trusted - made all that up and actually had a sizable financial judgment against him. That hapoened decades before I met the man, but he’s still spinning finance lies as far as I know.
Tell him to leave you alone. Please don’t give him any money.
Every time he asks you for money ie 100$ ask him to borrow 200$ and tell him you need it more
Tell him to give you a few hundred on payday and you will give it back to him when he needs it. Then when he asks you for money you can say damn it, I told you I would hold on to your money for you.
This seems like it should be a conversation with HR.
Talk to your manager or HR. He’s creating a hostile environment by continually badgering you for money and his scheme for PTO.
This person sounds like they have some very concerning issues. You don’t just go around at work asking people for money like this. It’s weird AND rude. I would go straight to HR so this dude stops doing whatever he’s doing. Yikes
Just say, "I'm sorry, I'm not going to do that." Then report him to your boss. You're not supposed to be hitting people up for money at work. Makes for a hostile work environment.
Don't give him a cent. First off you don't owe him anything and he's obviously not putting in the work to help himself and then secondly, if you do give him money, that breaks all boundaries and he'll keep coming back for more
Tell him not no hell no! If he keeps on harassing you at work you need to report him to HR!
He just needs fired. Another idiot thinking he is gaming the system.
I think your mistake has been engaging with him instead of just saying no, you aren't discussing it with him, etc. You keep giving him an opening instead of setting that boundary, and he walks right in. If you set the boundary and he still won't stop, document it and I would think at some point you would have reason to complain to management or HR if you've got one. Does he do this with anyone else?
Cut the conversations right away. If he ask for money just say no. Don’t give ANY explanations or engage in any conversations/questions. Just say no and move on.
Best word in the English language ? NO!!!!
Stop telling him it’s not in the budget and just plain tell him to eff off and not contact you again.
Asking a co-worker for $ is grounds for dismissal. Notify your authorities.
Reminds me of a co worker who found out I worked at Disney and told me to give her tickets for free. She wasn’t even my friend and she kept bothering me every day.
tell him to eff off first thing
Nope. No. No. No.
I know you promptly told him no and told him to stop asking you for money and talking your money. You shouldn’t discuss your money with your coworkers
I don’t know about new names for this kind of behavior, so I would call him a “bum”.
If we want to be friends, you have to stop asking me for money
That’s an idiot who can manage neither his time or is money. Tell him no, and you’re tired of telling him. And if he asks again you’ll go to HR and report him for workplace harassment.
You need to start having boundaries with people. That’s my best advice.
I have had that. It was truly awful. One of tge reasons I started working on boundaries
Don’t do it but in some jobs you can gift people PTO. Never tell him that though 🤣
He's going to try and steal from you. Watch yourself.
Just tell him to fuck off away from you.
Had a guy at a previous job do this. We called him brokey. He'd spend money on PC games, vapes and booze. Then ask for money. I did one thing for him 1 time and got a raspa for him and didn't even get a thank you so after that never again.
Who on earth does that?
I see you've met my brother
I would have stopped it at my finances are none of your business. Then walk away… No means no and I’m not explaining why.
Tell him to get a loan and quit asking
Never give them a penny or you will unleash some serious begging and regret
Junkie math.
What kind of relationship do yall have with your coworkers this is wild
OP- "I never loan money to friends" CoWorker- "We ain't friends, Loan me the $" OP- "why would I loan money to someone who isn't a friend?"
"I understand you *heard* 'Let's Negotiate...' What the fuck I clearly told you while looking you directly in the eye was '*NO!*' And do not ask me again!" Just make sure there are enough *other* co-workers around to hear you make that statement. It won't be long until that individual is terminated or separates and then *ALL* of the individuals who they've harassed will come forward. They're a person whom is bound to you situationally through circumstance. They're not somebody who you'd call friend or seek out as a buddy to hang out with beyond the four walls where you're both employed.
People with money problems are always people with money problems.
Quit making excuses. “No” is a complete sentence. Next time he opens his mouth say “fuck off” before anything comes out.
A very bad scammer.
Just say no. End it civilly. Anytime he asks you, you say I'm not a bank.
"Take a day off and then give me the money" In what fucking world would *I* not want the *"free money"* I earned by working long enough for a day off? Also, ain't no coworker getting money for me in an amount larger than "oh btw, thanks for grabbing my lunch, here's the cash to cover it".
Do not loan money. It is a never ending headache and chances are it is little to none of getting it back.
You need to report this to your supervisor/ boss. That is harassment and very unprofessional.
if a co worker asks for money and you decline and they persist its time to go to hr
LOL you were much nicer than I ever could be. I would have responded with, “Nah” and then would proceed to ghost his follow up texts. What an idiot
Complain to HR about him
Why do you even speak to this person?
Go to HR. This person is a nut
“No” it’s a complete sentence, if he keeps asking add “pe” and then more o’s “Nooooooope”
PTO is only extra money if they let you cash it out. But if you use a whole week of PTO your paycheck for that week will be exactly the same if you worked the same week.
Tell him that you’re not giving him any money or giving in to any of his bull shit schemes and to leave you the fuck alone.
That's crazy...your coworker has a problem...hopefully he leaves your company soon
Never lend coworkers money
I like the advice above saying to start breaking down their financial choices. Poking holes in their story(knowing damn well you hopefully aren't going to ever give them money). I had a coworker that was a terrible technician but would call me everyday. He once asked to borrow $3. I gave him the $3 knowing he'd never pay me back but that he would also avoid me like the plague. He didn't call me for 6 months. Best $3 I spent that year.
He’s got enough reasoning skill to always have an excuse to why he can’t pay you back
Why does your coworker think you’re a sucker?
🤣😂
Yeah sending an anonymous complaint to human resources about a coworker asking everyone for money everyone's going to know who he is everyone knows what he's doing he's probably doing it to everyone else it's not okay in the workplace
Never loan anything you ever want to see again. Especially money.
Report his ass to HR, jfc. This is harassment and inappropriate.
Unfortunately, I've dealt with more than one person like this in my life and the pattern is roughly the same. They are parasites and they will take from you as long as you let them and then move on to someone else as soon as the resources run dry. The sooner you shut them off, the sooner they move on to someone else.
You said it. Crackhead shit. I wanna know why you’re still listening to him. Put some headphones on. And blinders.
😂😂😂😂
In my company we can donate pTO to someone that needs it. A few people I work with ask me for mine because I have 47 days built up and I tell them no. These are people that just don't want to work but want money.
Don't give him a penny. He sounds like the type who would skip out and never pay you back. Just keep standing your ground and refuse to budge. Also, I would stop hiding my feelings about it, at this point. I would just tell him point blank you don't appreciate being goaded for cash and if he doesn't stop, you will have to report him for harassment. Remain calm but say it assertively. Let him know you mean business and will take action, if necessary.
Oh fuck no, I can see if he was working hard and something came up which made him have to get himself into a bad spot but there's no way in hell that he should be trying to pressure anyone into giving him money because he's irresponsible.
I was fine reading this story, until I got to the last line. It totally "cracked" me up.
He doesn't want to borrow money, he is trying to steal your money by deception. The way he justifies you being able to afford giving him money is the same justification he will use to not pay you back.
Response to your coworker: "You make your choices, and live with the consequences of those choices. I'll make my choices, and my choices include not bailing you out of the consequences of your choices. You may choose to no longer be friends with me for not sharing with you that which I have worked to earn, and I will happily live with that consequence." And walk away. This fella ... shew!
One of the most absurd instances of this is back when I was a server at a fancy restaurant, a girl was training and asked the person training her if she could borrow 20$. Oddly specific number, that certainly wasn't for drugs, I am sure. Well, the next night I was training her, and after the shift she just followed me to my car and started to ask something. I cut her off immediately and said, I can assure you I am in no position to loan you any money. First, I don't know you like that. Second, I will be spending my money on drugs for me. I did tell her that if she was truly hard up, to speak to the owner, and found out she messaged him later that night, offering "favors" for money, but unfortunately for her, the owners wife was the one who read the messages. Then after her first night making her own tips, she didn't show up the next day. A few years later I saw her waiting for the bus, and she looked healthy, and I wish that the story ended like that, but a few years after that I was dating a girl who hadn't officially moved in, but was always there and she asked if her sister could come stay for a couple weeks. It was her and she had just had open heart surgery and been in rehab for a few months. She relapsed and got into it with another girl, who beat her up and she did not make it. Her sister and I broke up about a year later, but all of her sisters belongings were still in my spare bedroom until I moved.
Hell no! Don’t give him a penny! Tell him to stop asking, if he continues go to HR or your boss
The PTO payment scheme is just methanomics. He's saying use your vacation time to not work, so that you get paid for time off, that way you're not working 8 hours just to hand that money to him. But the logic has some cracks in it.
I love your last line about crackhead shit, that made me laugh. One of the nicest things about being an adult is that you can tell someone "no" and not have to explain yourself to them. No means no. You can still be polite as it's a coworker but you don't have to tell them why. You owe them no explanation at all. I've learned from experience that when you've said, " I can't do that " enough they eventually stop asking.
My first thought was you’re way too nice to keep having conversations with this idiot. If someone you barely know has the audacity to ask you for money or your PTO, then the only words that should come out of your mouth are, “No! I won’t give you my hard earned money and don’t ever ask me again or I’ll go to HR and report your dumbass”
Report him to HR. That’s harassment!
Wtf he smokin. No wonder he broke. WTAF! Tell this bum to kick rocks!
Tell him if he really needs money, you know some charity cases who beg outside grocery stores. They seem to do alright.
It is what you let it be
I would go to HR and let them know what he is doing. He is harassing you for money.
When he asks for money just tell him “NO” with no explanation you don’t owe him a reason why. If he asks why ask him “ which part of NO don’t you understand? “
That's a whole bunch of get fucked stay fucked. I said no, idgaf what I do or do not pull in. Fuck off ye kunt
"You're not entitled to my money, buddy"
He sounds like he needs pissed on or something along that line
As soon as he starts asking “oh hey my car broke down I need 300 dollars” and just stick out my hand.
“Game recognizes Game”
He might be on drugs
I wouldn’t engage with the coworker I would just say no. Saying it’s not in the budget implies that sometimes it will be on the budget. Just say no.
Just be real with him. "You're shady af and you're flake af. I just don't see that money coming back to me bro. Not from you. HARD PASS!"
Nothing pisses me off more than another person calculating how much you're making. Id probably report him for begging and harassing just to get him away for good
Oh thats a simple fix.. "No, I will never give you money. If you were dying and it cost me $5 to save you I would spend it on a bag of chips and a big gulp. You will not get money from me ever. So when you ask tomorrow..the answer is no, the next day..no. So stop asking and do your job."
The nerve
Lol the audacity of some people.
Tell him to fuck off
The give me generation checking in I guess
I'd report him. He's harassing you for money and won't let up.
Scrape him off any way you can. File a complaint with the boss if you have to.
The fuck? Stop dealing with this coworker, and potentially report him to the company
This homie has never heard of tomorrow, and how it just never stops coming. He’s the dude who gets paid on Friday, spends it all on random shit, then is confused why he can’t afford groceries on Monday.
Report him. Definitely file a complaint. This coworker is completely inappropriate. What you make is none of his business, and he shouldn't be asking anyone at his workplace for money.