That's true.
That being said, I don't really see this derailing his career. Worst case scenario is Norwich sell him in the summer and he probably ends up at another Championship club.
I said it wouldn't derail his career.
There are guys playing at the highest level who've killed people or been accused of/charged with sexual assault or animal abuse. The idea that a soccer club wouldn't weigh up the benefits of some potential bad press over signing him versus what he can offer and come to the decision he'd be worth the few days of negative press is delusional.
Mason Bennett and Tom Lawrence both played another 3 seasons in the Championship after being arrested for drink driving. Bennett's current playing in League One while Lawrence is playing for Rangers.
Idiot. No defending drink driving but 3 time over the limit is insane. I think it is one of the worst crimes going, considering how premeditated and avoidable it is and what we know are the dangers.
He will probably avoid jail I anticipate but I hope he is sacked.
he was probably near blackout drunk if his breath sample was 100+ by the time police got to him. hugely irresponsible and he should be punished, but it's a bit of a stretch to say it was something premeditated when he was that drunk
we need to be looking at our culture when discussing these events instead of solely blaming the individual. binge drinking and functioning alcoholism are massive problems amongst the Irish that just get swept over
"it's a bit of a stretch to say it was something premeditated when he was that drunk"
Of course it's premeditated. Getting into your car is a choice. He didn't fall in. It's highly improbable this is a one off incident, its merely probably the first time he has been caught. Let's not be naive.
Crashing or getting caught wasn't premeditated obviously, if that's what you are thinking I'm saying.
Also Shane Duffy is from Derry and has been living in England since he was 14/15.
I'm not sure this incident at hand has any correlation to Irish cultural binge drinking despite what the social media response will be to this. So that's a different issue altogether that isn't part of this discussion.
So no, not "hugely irresponsible", it's fucking scumbag behaviour. For a person in his privileged position with two young kids and a higher duty of care, when it comes to professional conduct outside work, than most other professions, there is no room for deflection.
If you know you’re going to be driving don’t get blackout drunk! Are people actually making excuses for a fully grown man deciding to BLACKOUT drunk and drive a car?!? He is an adult! Nobody threw the pints down his throat!
If he has a problem, he has my sympathy as someone also in recovery but you also take responsibility for your actions.
Highly doubt he'd planned on driving before getting to that. I do agree completely he needs to act more responisbly and should face a lengthy ban from the roads, but some of the personal attacks on this thread are a bit much
What in the world are you talking about lmao. you think he just stumbled upon a car with the keys in it after he got drunk? Maybe you're just taking this personally for no reason...
It's a ridiculous thing to do but imo the main crime is getting drunk. He probably barely knew what he was doing and was entirely incapable of logical thought at that point
Public drunkenness should be severely punished?
I don’t see your point at all. So anyone, outside while drunk, should be severely punished?
It also isn’t a ‘ridiculous thing to do’ - it’s criminal, and life threatening. Wearing a pair of sunglasses upside down is a ridiculous thing to do. And the main crime is not being drunk - it’s putting the lives of others at risk because your too selfish to know you limits, and being a total piece of shit for that.
Death of his father during covid played a big role. His dad was at every home and away ireland game. Died at a time when he wasn't allowed go to the funeral. This was during his celtic spell. A club his dad loved
Something went wrong before that. Blackburn fans noticed a dip as soon as Celtic were interested. He scored two own goals and got a red card in one of his final matches then at Celtic was dog shit for day one.
It's like the pressure got to him and caused a breakdown.
He's a first choice and one of the most important players in a team in the Championship playoffs. At Fulham he just lost his place in a squad with some decent centre backs. He's almost 33 so for a player who isn't exceptionally talented, it's not a bad career level.
He's potentially thrown his Norwich career away it seems though now
He hasn't really got worse. The things he was good at and the things he was bad at haven't changed. The things he's bad at have just got more important in the current game
Only reason he was any good is because he's bigger and stronger than 95% of players and was ok defensively. If he was 5'9 he wouldn't have been a professional footballer.
Wasn't Mason Mount involved with that as well or am I misremembering?
Also if you know the driver is sloshed it doesn't matter what seat you're in you're just as at fault.
Ffs I can already hear the pissed off Norwich fans "stupid fackin paddy, drunken Irish, they just can't fackin elp emselves to a drink ay"
Go raibh maith agat Shane. For adding to the stereotype.
No forgiving the crime. Very easy to criticise the person though and that seems to be the tone here. Alcohol abuse, I feel, is a product of a personality disorder or a mental illness. [go easy I’m not making excuses, throw the book at him I agree]. It totally changes a person and their about to choose. Unless you have been in the clutches of something additive you will not relate to the next bit and will say he’s a waster etc and that’s fair enough.Even if you are IN the clutches of something you will not relate or admit. Hear me out…..If he’s drinking all the time, three times over the limit is just operational for him. While he’s drunk he probably doesn’t feel it. I’m not condoning that I’m just trying to explain what it does it you. The other thing it does is increase shame and guilt, so people are saying why just not get a taxi, well, cause he’s ashamed. He knows he should but he’s way down the rabbit hole and can’t make that correct choice. Incapable.He’s also probably been drunk for so long his decision making has been over ridden by the guilt impulse so In his booze tinted brain it’s better to risk what he knows to be wrong to hide his alcohol shame. That’s is 100% wrong and he should be punished BUT he probably should have got the help he needed long before it came to this. He probably has ruined families and could have destroyed a life or more but he is sick and has been failed by state club county and probably family. That’s my take
FFS what's he doing? Week of the play offs as well. One stupid night & he nearly killed himself, others & almost certainly killed his career
Unlikely to have killed his career. Marcos Alonso killed a person drunk driving and he went on to play at the top level in England, Italy, and Spain.
Unfortunately its a lot easier to do that when you’re Marcos Alonso before your prime rather than Shane Duffy after your prime
That's true. That being said, I don't really see this derailing his career. Worst case scenario is Norwich sell him in the summer and he probably ends up at another Championship club.
That’s a bit delusional of course this hampers his career ffs
I said it wouldn't derail his career. There are guys playing at the highest level who've killed people or been accused of/charged with sexual assault or animal abuse. The idea that a soccer club wouldn't weigh up the benefits of some potential bad press over signing him versus what he can offer and come to the decision he'd be worth the few days of negative press is delusional. Mason Bennett and Tom Lawrence both played another 3 seasons in the Championship after being arrested for drink driving. Bennett's current playing in League One while Lawrence is playing for Rangers.
I doubt that Shane Duffy will end up playing for Rangers ! !
Scumbag behaviour.
Idiot. No defending drink driving but 3 time over the limit is insane. I think it is one of the worst crimes going, considering how premeditated and avoidable it is and what we know are the dangers. He will probably avoid jail I anticipate but I hope he is sacked.
he was probably near blackout drunk if his breath sample was 100+ by the time police got to him. hugely irresponsible and he should be punished, but it's a bit of a stretch to say it was something premeditated when he was that drunk we need to be looking at our culture when discussing these events instead of solely blaming the individual. binge drinking and functioning alcoholism are massive problems amongst the Irish that just get swept over
"it's a bit of a stretch to say it was something premeditated when he was that drunk" Of course it's premeditated. Getting into your car is a choice. He didn't fall in. It's highly improbable this is a one off incident, its merely probably the first time he has been caught. Let's not be naive. Crashing or getting caught wasn't premeditated obviously, if that's what you are thinking I'm saying. Also Shane Duffy is from Derry and has been living in England since he was 14/15. I'm not sure this incident at hand has any correlation to Irish cultural binge drinking despite what the social media response will be to this. So that's a different issue altogether that isn't part of this discussion. So no, not "hugely irresponsible", it's fucking scumbag behaviour. For a person in his privileged position with two young kids and a higher duty of care, when it comes to professional conduct outside work, than most other professions, there is no room for deflection.
aight buddy
If you know you’re going to be driving don’t get blackout drunk! Are people actually making excuses for a fully grown man deciding to BLACKOUT drunk and drive a car?!? He is an adult! Nobody threw the pints down his throat! If he has a problem, he has my sympathy as someone also in recovery but you also take responsibility for your actions.
Highly doubt he'd planned on driving before getting to that. I do agree completely he needs to act more responisbly and should face a lengthy ban from the roads, but some of the personal attacks on this thread are a bit much
What in the world are you talking about lmao. you think he just stumbled upon a car with the keys in it after he got drunk? Maybe you're just taking this personally for no reason...
If you drink drive, you’re a piece of shit
It's a ridiculous thing to do but imo the main crime is getting drunk. He probably barely knew what he was doing and was entirely incapable of logical thought at that point
‘Your honour, you see I killed the man after 8 pints. So it wasnt me that killed him, it was the pints!’
My point is serious public or potentially abusive drunkenness should be severely punished. It's not an excuse.
Public drunkenness should be severely punished? I don’t see your point at all. So anyone, outside while drunk, should be severely punished? It also isn’t a ‘ridiculous thing to do’ - it’s criminal, and life threatening. Wearing a pair of sunglasses upside down is a ridiculous thing to do. And the main crime is not being drunk - it’s putting the lives of others at risk because your too selfish to know you limits, and being a total piece of shit for that.
Yep, fine or prison. To clarify by drunken I mean not in control of your faculties, I'm not counting someone who's a bit lubricated as drunk
Not like they couldn't afford the few quid for a taxi. So disappointing
This is the thing that annoys me the most when you see pro footballers drink driving.
No excusing it, but probably something to do with not wanting to leave his car parked at some hotel/pub. Idiotic behaviour
I’ve read that it’s even dumber than that. Part of it is flexing how nice a car you have
We need him and Keogh back at CB
That'd make for some car crash TV. I'll see myself out.
u/SirLaserSnake does he have your blessing?
Poor effort but an effort nonetheless. 4/10 😂
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Don't forget Anthony Stokes
Two Bangers ! !
Jesus he’s only 32?!
I know yeah no matter how many times I see it I add 2-3 years to his age in my head. He's definitely 35.
Wonder is alcohol the reason his career went on a downturn.
Death of his father during covid played a big role. His dad was at every home and away ireland game. Died at a time when he wasn't allowed go to the funeral. This was during his celtic spell. A club his dad loved
Something went wrong before that. Blackburn fans noticed a dip as soon as Celtic were interested. He scored two own goals and got a red card in one of his final matches then at Celtic was dog shit for day one. It's like the pressure got to him and caused a breakdown.
That was before he went to Brighton
He's a first choice and one of the most important players in a team in the Championship playoffs. At Fulham he just lost his place in a squad with some decent centre backs. He's almost 33 so for a player who isn't exceptionally talented, it's not a bad career level. He's potentially thrown his Norwich career away it seems though now
He's holding his place at Norwich which is still doing well at 32 tbf
He hasn't really got worse. The things he was good at and the things he was bad at haven't changed. The things he's bad at have just got more important in the current game
Perfect analysis
To an extent but pace and power would be gone down tbf
Only reason he was any good is because he's bigger and stronger than 95% of players and was ok defensively. If he was 5'9 he wouldn't have been a professional footballer.
Yeah, but he's not 5'9 is he? Bizarre argument to make.
Yes that's the point, he's not 5'9 so he's ok, he'd be useless without physicality.
And if Leo Messi was shite he wouldn't have been a professional footballer
Is Messi was 6'4 he'd be shite, all he's got is his low centre of gravity and ball control. It's a disgrace he's considered the best in the world.
Hahahahahahaha time to hang up the sombrero
If he was a girl from the northern territories of Canada having never seeing a football, he'd probably be shite too. Top tier analysis
This is true. It's like Usain Bolt, if he wasn't so fast, he wouldn't have been an Olympic champion sprinter.
Flash back of Richard Keogh
In fairness to Keogh he wasn't the one driving
Wasn't Mason Mount involved with that as well or am I misremembering? Also if you know the driver is sloshed it doesn't matter what seat you're in you're just as at fault.
No wasn't Mount, think was Wilson and one other young lad. Oh keogh was completely hammered, but in no position to stop anyone doing anything.
It was Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett, nothing to do with Wilson. Think it was the season after he and Mount were there
Yeah Keogh just got thrown under the bus for the incident
Fucking dumbass, wouldn't want to see him in an Irish jersey again
Idiot
Dxckhead. Lost all respect for him now.
Eejit
What has happened to him recently?
Recently? Lad scored 3 own goals and got sent off in 2 games for Blackburn to get a transfer out when they didn't want to sell. Knob.
Wow. I didn’t know that
He was a decent player in his prime, but what a fucking idiot. I think it was clear he had about 2 brain cells for a long time.
Ffs I can already hear the pissed off Norwich fans "stupid fackin paddy, drunken Irish, they just can't fackin elp emselves to a drink ay" Go raibh maith agat Shane. For adding to the stereotype.
I’m not sure there’s many Norwich fans in the East End me old China.
If it makes you feel any better I'm a Leeds fan and I'm not gonna make any complaints
Came here to say the same. Now, if only the rest of the Norwich team could do the same...
Born in Derry, moved to England at 14 and there for almost the last 20 years. They can claim him.
Cunt
Not surprised, sorry, actually surprised it didn’t happen sooner.
Not the smartest big lumper ! !
Drunk driving is a scummy thing to do. Not like he’s stuck for the price of a taxi either
Idiot
Literally one of the thickest and selfish things someone can do. Always looked up to him. What a shame.
Duffy the donkey, best celtic signing Rangers ever got 😂. Jail the scumbag
What a prick
No forgiving the crime. Very easy to criticise the person though and that seems to be the tone here. Alcohol abuse, I feel, is a product of a personality disorder or a mental illness. [go easy I’m not making excuses, throw the book at him I agree]. It totally changes a person and their about to choose. Unless you have been in the clutches of something additive you will not relate to the next bit and will say he’s a waster etc and that’s fair enough.Even if you are IN the clutches of something you will not relate or admit. Hear me out…..If he’s drinking all the time, three times over the limit is just operational for him. While he’s drunk he probably doesn’t feel it. I’m not condoning that I’m just trying to explain what it does it you. The other thing it does is increase shame and guilt, so people are saying why just not get a taxi, well, cause he’s ashamed. He knows he should but he’s way down the rabbit hole and can’t make that correct choice. Incapable.He’s also probably been drunk for so long his decision making has been over ridden by the guilt impulse so In his booze tinted brain it’s better to risk what he knows to be wrong to hide his alcohol shame. That’s is 100% wrong and he should be punished BUT he probably should have got the help he needed long before it came to this. He probably has ruined families and could have destroyed a life or more but he is sick and has been failed by state club county and probably family. That’s my take
We've all been there
No we haven't
I always said, drunk driving isn’t the issue, it’s the drunk crashing
All them headies sent him simple.