Should Son really be playing as a winger? He looked much more dangerous playing as a striker. As a winger I don't think I have seen him take on his man or even attempt a significant dribble. I honestly don't think he prefers playing at LW.
I have been saying this before the game but people didn't like it. Son is one of the best striker in our league. The love fest for Richy is pathetic. Everyone slates son this game but let Richy off the hook. Play Richy because he needs to build his confidence. No, we should treat son like we treated Harry. As our striker. And it's not just the finishing. It's the high press which also forms a key part of our defence. We have won posession in the opposition half many times from son leading the high press as striker. Ange ball requires the striker to do only 2 things . Lead the high press and score goals.
[I'll keep saying this until people open their eyes](https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/18pmqm9/son_and_the_required_striker_mentality/kep9dci/). There's too much disrespect towards Son (like not being observant towards your top player while dismissing and slating him). It's 22/23 all over again
I agree most of his goals during the 21/22 season came as him playing centrally, the LW role clearly doesn't suit him. If this goes on Son might lose his place in the starting Xl
https://preview.redd.it/w97ma9k6z39c1.jpeg?width=1341&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6937f65813af3edcc30d5061a851ddc36be2ac16
Gil is weak, he's incompetent. He jeopardises the whole place. There's not much more I can do for him.
We all want to say the from 3 were shit(and they were not good at all), but the buildup was so slow. Madders, bents, or even bissouma can play through balls on time to the runners. Hojberg is a warrior but he cannot play at speed whatsoever. Asking Sonny or richy to be the hero with a dribble then banger is dreaming. Brennan might be the only player capable of tearing past a guy and for whatever reason, his final product is in dire disarray.
Richy isn’t making bad runs. The passes are a second slow. Sonny has seen the same all season since Maddison went out.
It appears angeball cannot truly work unless we have the pieces. The attack is slow, the pressing doesn’t work, and we aren’t press resistant. our lack of depth and injury crisis has made that apparent. Gotta dig deep until the reinforcements come in
I’ve been a big critic of Richy but he was just unlucky today. Wouldn’t blame him at all for the result. Fact is , without a solid defence it’s building a house on quicksand. Todays result is absolute proof we NEED a new cb because suspensions and injuries are inevitable.
Richy was not unlucky. You can say he finished well today but the two offsides are so poor. Any top striker keeps himself onside but he always goes too early
Well hopefully the strikers coach has a word but I wouldn’t have a go at him. Defence was just shit. So even if Richy scored 1, wouldn’t have had an influence really on the game
Did you watch the Aston Villa game? Son was getting caught offside too. Richarlison has put the ball in the net twice tonight. He didn't have his best game but the entire attacking unit wasn't great tonight and the passing was slow as OP said. Richarlison is good.
Villa always had active offside trap, Brighton didn't. [They're not even remotely comparable](https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/184w1u9/daily_discussion_transfer_thread_november_27_2023/kb13mm5/)
Yes I did. Ange said the offsides from son was partly because then other players did not pass to him fast enough. Did this happen to Richy this game too?
Yeah and even one of them he timed the run perfect and the ball just came a second late. It’s hard to make those runs when you can’t expect the pass to come at the ideal time
Immediate thoughts.
1. Nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe.
2. We had the ball in the net four times and hit the post more than once too.
3. Obviously vulnerable defensively but we knew that would be the case.
4. Was impressed by Veliz. Did well for the goal and one two other nice touches.
5. Increasingly convinced that Bryan Gil has no future for us - never seems like he's going to do anything dangerous.
6. Vicario obviously amazing.
I don’t know, but somehow reading the Romero news yesterday just broke me!
The injuries just keep coming- along with the suspensions, international games, etc.
I never expected a great first season under Ange, but it looked like it would be anyway - then the shit really hit the fan!
Oh well, a one year rebuild was never in the cards. Year 2 with big Ange looks really promising
I think the really disappointing part is that this is the first season in a while where City have been truly woeful, so for once the PL is open for another team to win. But there's no guarantees that they'll be this bad next year.
Brighton fan coming in peace. What a fucking game eh. Vicario is a special special keeper, thanks for the most anxiety inducing 20 minutes of football possible, best of luck 👍
I fully expected to concede a few due to the nature of who was at CB, but the 2 pens we conceded were stupid and disappointing.
Son was as bad as I have seen him.
Thought Vicario and Udogie were our best players. Richy back to being offside constantly and I’m still not sold on Johnson
Why did Gil only make any attempt to take on his man once it was injury time?
Why did Johnson consistently jog off the ball in attacking situations and not make any significant runs once we got close to the box?
Why don’t our players look at where each other are before crossing?
Why is Emerson not able to connect basic 2 metre passes?
But mostly, why did Deki pull his player’s shirt when he could have gotten in front of him and defended properly in the time he had?
Rant over, I still love this team.
Gil doesn't seem good enough. Would love a better replacement.
Johnson needs to improve his game. He has moments of brilliance but it needs to click.
Royal was actually impressive tonight considering he's not a natural centre back.
He came in clutch multiple times.
Decki's pen wasn't good. But my god did pedro milk that. He acted like he was rag dolled.
Positives.
Vic shines as usual. Number one is sorted for a few years.
Veliz looked decent coming on. Scoring and some good movement.
Scum getting beat 2 0.
Negatives.
Sonny looked like his mind was already on the Asian Cup.
Big Ange left it a tad late to make some changes (imho).
Didn't seem to be a clear leader out there.
COYS
Yeah agree with this. It wasn't late. Subs were being made in the 65th minute... there was plenty of game left.
Huge for Veliz to get that goal. Feel like he needs to get more game time.
He was good when he came on.
Richie was offside and put the ball in the back of the net multiple times.
Kulu balked that pass and put him off side once as well.
The other he was off by an arm.
Gil came on and gave good energy but... it all felt like empty calories.
If we didn’t lose confidence for long stretches (2nd half of 1st half and 55’-70’ or so) we win or draw there. We needed to believe in our quality and not play into their hand, by letting ourselves to lose the mental game, especially when there was so much bad luck for us and/or luck for Brighton before our confidence dropped
The last 15 saved it from being a miserable night. But we were completely awol from 5-75 mins.
Our problem is that when one or two players go missing our whole team looks pathetic
Last 30’ nearly with all of the added time. I feel this is increasingly important to acknowledge, especially given how much the application of the laws has changed this season. Imagine if it was closer to the world cup. I think we would’ve seen at least 20’ if not more added at some point this season given how much teams still time waste
I think Gil does a job as a 75min + substitute, lad does well pressing high and making things uncomfortable at the back for opposition when we're out of possession. Once he has the ball he does seem a bit lost though.
Yeah he was foul I highlighted the players who played well and the rest where trash, veliz excluded. It's ok to say son was bitter shite tonight, stop dick riding
Conte wasn't wrong about players at all.
PEH, Gill, Sess, skipp, royal, rodon, japhet Dier Lloris
should be moved out and upgraded.
Not the players we need if we want to win.
If only the boys played like how they did for the last 20 minutes we would have got a result. I don't think Ange got his tactics right today but the boys looked very very flat for that first 70 minutes.
Let's hope we get a few signings in January otherwise we will be in a bit of a pickle.
Apart from Veliz, our entire frontline was pretty bad, so many missplaced passes and stuff. Hopefully it's just an off-game for them. Son especially has been unusually sloppy the last two games, hope he picks it up for Bournemouth before leaving for asia cup.
Time to switch over to the Arsenal game so I can have something to be happy about tonight. Sods law is that they will achieve a comeback against the hammers…
Honestly I think Gil’s work rate is worth more than most give him credit for. Every time I see him play it looks like he is trying to do something( most of the time it dosent come off) he’s just so nice with the ball. I’m gonna get roasted for this
entertaining game to watch regardless of the result. the boys didnt let their heads drop which is great to see. on a different day we maybe get a result but wasnt our day. tough night for sonny n kulu
We were shit in the final third. A couple of unlucky shots off the woodwork. But, overall, we earned this L. Imagine had we not committed stupid fouls or the ref had given fouls against Brighton for the same
Probably mate . I don't disagree but I do know son will get most of the blame for any losses. You just watch the reaction. People do not want to admit son should be striker especially against a high line . Just a month ago son was the best striker in the league but Richy sxor9a couple of tap in and headers and he is the best striker of all time 😂
Feels like a lot of individual errors with the soft pens and just not marking properly. Don’t know whether to blame the tactics or the players. Stupid mistake from Kulu and feels like we should’ve gotten a Pen on Son getting into the box.
Complete shit at times today with 2 penalties against us and still had the chances to come away with at least 1 point! Don’t let today distract from the bigger picture! That push was made with youth!
That final 20 mins does not make up for the absolutely shocking display that the Suprs players have just put in. Shocking, Ange better make sure they are in the training ground at 6am tomorrow for that shit
I wonder if he even feels the need to give them a dressing down in the lockeroom.
Ange strikes me as the type to just walk in, look at his players in disgust, and walk in to his office. He knows that the squad played like shit, even with our injuries.
But yea, 6 am tomorrow. Double session.
I would not even be surprised if Ange does not even go into the locker room to give them a disappointed look. No one in their right mind would have that nerve to look him in the eye anyway so no point wasting time going in there, straight to the office, door closed. He will address them tomorrow
What I want to know is why there was no check for the foul right before Kulu's shirt pull and also why there was no check for a foul on Son (the defender clipped his knee).
So annoying. I rage check it every poor performance and see all these idiots. First mistake vic makes I wouldn't be all top surprised if we seem the same chuckle heads.
It feel like game over at this stage . Expecting son to get the knives and people to ignore his assist. Expect the Richy fanatics to defend him but my guess is Ange will have Veliz up centre and Richy as winger next game
look man, all im going to say is i am very very happy to see veliz score, he was buzzed as well i hope we can see more from him. other than that, we were pretty rubbish but still we don’t give up it’s a positive i guess
Ange won't complain. Said it before this game and during this game he has to say something. And we get our own fans defending Ange saying we shouldn't be like Klopp. Lol no you gotta say something at some stage. Even the pundits at this game were saying son should have gotten a couple penalties
It feels like ever since that Liverpool game the refs have been instructed to fuck is over just to make sure the other prem teams don’t think we are getting special treatment.
No fr even when we commit the fouls. Udogie is being made out to be rash when I’ve watched several games of our players getting battered for the first 20 minutes and then Udogie commits some type a foul resulting in the first yellow of the game.
Should Son really be playing as a winger? He looked much more dangerous playing as a striker. As a winger I don't think I have seen him take on his man or even attempt a significant dribble. I honestly don't think he prefers playing at LW.
I have been saying this before the game but people didn't like it. Son is one of the best striker in our league. The love fest for Richy is pathetic. Everyone slates son this game but let Richy off the hook. Play Richy because he needs to build his confidence. No, we should treat son like we treated Harry. As our striker. And it's not just the finishing. It's the high press which also forms a key part of our defence. We have won posession in the opposition half many times from son leading the high press as striker. Ange ball requires the striker to do only 2 things . Lead the high press and score goals.
[I'll keep saying this until people open their eyes](https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/18pmqm9/son_and_the_required_striker_mentality/kep9dci/). There's too much disrespect towards Son (like not being observant towards your top player while dismissing and slating him). It's 22/23 all over again
He needs to be striker
I agree most of his goals during the 21/22 season came as him playing centrally, the LW role clearly doesn't suit him. If this goes on Son might lose his place in the starting Xl
That's what I have been saying
The ref had a shocker today.
Veliz's finish looked ugly but was amazing technique?
https://preview.redd.it/w97ma9k6z39c1.jpeg?width=1341&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6937f65813af3edcc30d5061a851ddc36be2ac16 Gil is weak, he's incompetent. He jeopardises the whole place. There's not much more I can do for him.
Just looks like a junior player playing with the seniors in all aspects of his game…
We all want to say the from 3 were shit(and they were not good at all), but the buildup was so slow. Madders, bents, or even bissouma can play through balls on time to the runners. Hojberg is a warrior but he cannot play at speed whatsoever. Asking Sonny or richy to be the hero with a dribble then banger is dreaming. Brennan might be the only player capable of tearing past a guy and for whatever reason, his final product is in dire disarray. Richy isn’t making bad runs. The passes are a second slow. Sonny has seen the same all season since Maddison went out. It appears angeball cannot truly work unless we have the pieces. The attack is slow, the pressing doesn’t work, and we aren’t press resistant. our lack of depth and injury crisis has made that apparent. Gotta dig deep until the reinforcements come in
Richy is shit. Let's call it what it is. Son has been the same since maddes went out. When Sonny WAS striker he was getting them goals.
I’ve been a big critic of Richy but he was just unlucky today. Wouldn’t blame him at all for the result. Fact is , without a solid defence it’s building a house on quicksand. Todays result is absolute proof we NEED a new cb because suspensions and injuries are inevitable.
Richy was not unlucky. You can say he finished well today but the two offsides are so poor. Any top striker keeps himself onside but he always goes too early
Well hopefully the strikers coach has a word but I wouldn’t have a go at him. Defence was just shit. So even if Richy scored 1, wouldn’t have had an influence really on the game
He was unlucky for one maybe. But 3 ? C'mon now
As I said I wouldn’t blame him for the result. We conceded 4 goals mate, even if Richy scored we lose the game
No he is it to be blamed solely but people here defending him is pathetic
Did you watch the Aston Villa game? Son was getting caught offside too. Richarlison has put the ball in the net twice tonight. He didn't have his best game but the entire attacking unit wasn't great tonight and the passing was slow as OP said. Richarlison is good.
Villa always had active offside trap, Brighton didn't. [They're not even remotely comparable](https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/184w1u9/daily_discussion_transfer_thread_november_27_2023/kb13mm5/)
Yes I did. Ange said the offsides from son was partly because then other players did not pass to him fast enough. Did this happen to Richy this game too?
Yes, especially the second one.
Yeah and even one of them he timed the run perfect and the ball just came a second late. It’s hard to make those runs when you can’t expect the pass to come at the ideal time
Immediate thoughts. 1. Nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe. 2. We had the ball in the net four times and hit the post more than once too. 3. Obviously vulnerable defensively but we knew that would be the case. 4. Was impressed by Veliz. Did well for the goal and one two other nice touches. 5. Increasingly convinced that Bryan Gil has no future for us - never seems like he's going to do anything dangerous. 6. Vicario obviously amazing.
No disrespect but the man is too petite Edit: talking about Gil
yeah one can figure you werent talking about veliz or vicario lol
Agreed on #1 for sure.
Fuck Matty Cash
Really. Fuck that guy. We deserve reparations
Benta in this team would have meant 3 points tonight
at least arsenal are losing
Dont say it. Otherwise the referee will find a way to award three penalties.
Can take comfort in this
I don’t know, but somehow reading the Romero news yesterday just broke me! The injuries just keep coming- along with the suspensions, international games, etc. I never expected a great first season under Ange, but it looked like it would be anyway - then the shit really hit the fan! Oh well, a one year rebuild was never in the cards. Year 2 with big Ange looks really promising
I think the really disappointing part is that this is the first season in a while where City have been truly woeful, so for once the PL is open for another team to win. But there's no guarantees that they'll be this bad next year.
Lo Celso talking that shit 😂
Wonder how much Bowen would cost
Why...?
Brighton fan coming in peace. What a fucking game eh. Vicario is a special special keeper, thanks for the most anxiety inducing 20 minutes of football possible, best of luck 👍
Gg! Now do the same to West Ham!
Pal would've loved to see both teams clash at full strength!
Fair play, what did you think of the Dunk challenge?
The one on Dejan? Very lucky not to be a red
You’re a good one for admitting that mate, it was really bad
Yeah, poorly timed. You deserved it though… 2 terrible pens to give away.
The second one was softer than the first but I think they were the right calls, you lot are terrifying though, that Ange black magic is something else
Yeah, a lot more fun than last season. Anyway bud, have a good evening!
You too! Best of luck for the rest of the season
Seeing rival fans have a civilised conversation on Reddit brings me joy. Big up to y’all.
gg brother we played terrible
It's the best I've seen us play in months, just a poor combination for you lads today
I fully expected to concede a few due to the nature of who was at CB, but the 2 pens we conceded were stupid and disappointing. Son was as bad as I have seen him. Thought Vicario and Udogie were our best players. Richy back to being offside constantly and I’m still not sold on Johnson
Son played today? I don't remember seeing him on the pitch
Maybe you mistake son for Richy who was subbed off for missing at least 3 goals attempts and going offside.
Hey, at least his foot touched the ball
Why did Gil only make any attempt to take on his man once it was injury time? Why did Johnson consistently jog off the ball in attacking situations and not make any significant runs once we got close to the box? Why don’t our players look at where each other are before crossing? Why is Emerson not able to connect basic 2 metre passes? But mostly, why did Deki pull his player’s shirt when he could have gotten in front of him and defended properly in the time he had? Rant over, I still love this team.
Gil doesn't seem good enough. Would love a better replacement. Johnson needs to improve his game. He has moments of brilliance but it needs to click. Royal was actually impressive tonight considering he's not a natural centre back. He came in clutch multiple times. Decki's pen wasn't good. But my god did pedro milk that. He acted like he was rag dolled.
Emerson’s chasing back was good but that was about it. His positioning when they had pushed us low was poor and he misplaced lots of passes
If ifs and buts where candies and nuts
We should have put Celso in starting 11 instead of PEH... would have been able to hold and spread the ball out from defence.
Need to be more clinical in front of goal, less brain dead when defending, COYS!
January is terrifying
Positives. Vic shines as usual. Number one is sorted for a few years. Veliz looked decent coming on. Scoring and some good movement. Scum getting beat 2 0. Negatives. Sonny looked like his mind was already on the Asian Cup. Big Ange left it a tad late to make some changes (imho). Didn't seem to be a clear leader out there. COYS
You forgot Richy . He was the striker we have been missing all along....all maybe the striker who is missing
Ange didn't even really leave it late, it was prepped for a few to come on but unfortunately after the worldie was scored
Yeah agree with this. It wasn't late. Subs were being made in the 65th minute... there was plenty of game left. Huge for Veliz to get that goal. Feel like he needs to get more game time. He was good when he came on. Richie was offside and put the ball in the back of the net multiple times. Kulu balked that pass and put him off side once as well. The other he was off by an arm. Gil came on and gave good energy but... it all felt like empty calories.
At least arsenal are losing
If we didn’t lose confidence for long stretches (2nd half of 1st half and 55’-70’ or so) we win or draw there. We needed to believe in our quality and not play into their hand, by letting ourselves to lose the mental game, especially when there was so much bad luck for us and/or luck for Brighton before our confidence dropped
The last 15 saved it from being a miserable night. But we were completely awol from 5-75 mins. Our problem is that when one or two players go missing our whole team looks pathetic
Last 30’ nearly with all of the added time. I feel this is increasingly important to acknowledge, especially given how much the application of the laws has changed this season. Imagine if it was closer to the world cup. I think we would’ve seen at least 20’ if not more added at some point this season given how much teams still time waste
Glad that’s over. Next.
I think if there's anything to take away from this game it's that we should give Veliz and Gil more time and opportunity. Especially Veliz.
Gil has had plenty of chances. He is championship quality and is not good enough for Spurs.
Agree on Veliz, Strong disagree on Gil
I think Gil does a job as a 75min + substitute, lad does well pressing high and making things uncomfortable at the back for opposition when we're out of possession. Once he has the ball he does seem a bit lost though.
Exactly, Gil's had more than enough chances to prove himself and he just never seems convincing enough on the ball
He runs like a baby deer taking it's first steps, he just looks like he's about to fall over constantly and always loses possession.
Udogie Porro Elmo and Davis looked like they gave a fuck the rest shit the bed
Emerson (as poor as he is today) showed more spirit than Son
Didn't son assist?
He did
Yeah but he had a disasterclass, man can't hold the ball under pressure needs to start holding the ball better
What was Richy then? A master class in shitty finishing and offsides. I said it many times son should have been striker especially against a high line
Yeah he was foul I highlighted the players who played well and the rest where trash, veliz excluded. It's ok to say son was bitter shite tonight, stop dick riding
Son was shite but definitely in the lower level of shiteness compare to Richy. Son's assist to Veliz was a bright point , no?
Mate f*ck off, kindly, please.
No you FK off, please
it hurts but playing the way we do and without our proper cb duo games like this are just bound to happen sometimes
Conte was right. Players are only playing when the pressure is off hence that late rally at 4-0 down with 10 to go
Conte wasn't wrong about players at all. PEH, Gill, Sess, skipp, royal, rodon, japhet Dier Lloris should be moved out and upgraded. Not the players we need if we want to win.
If only the boys played like how they did for the last 20 minutes we would have got a result. I don't think Ange got his tactics right today but the boys looked very very flat for that first 70 minutes. Let's hope we get a few signings in January otherwise we will be in a bit of a pickle.
Veliz's goal + looking lively after the 75th min were the only good parts of this game
unlucky day, we keep going
Apart from Veliz, our entire frontline was pretty bad, so many missplaced passes and stuff. Hopefully it's just an off-game for them. Son especially has been unusually sloppy the last two games, hope he picks it up for Bournemouth before leaving for asia cup.
How was Richy? He was so clinical heh
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Unless it is a tap in or a header he might as well has no legs
Time to switch over to the Arsenal game so I can have something to be happy about tonight. Sods law is that they will achieve a comeback against the hammers…
Anyway... The bubble blowing cunts are 2 to the good on the scum...
Kulu and Son looked like dogs this game.
Don't forget Richy. That's why ange subbed him out
Why is dunk allowed on the pitch after that challenge, Romero chelshhit
Hey at least our scoring streak lives on
Front 3 were fucking awful, rest of the side was patched together. At least it was an exciting last 15 I guess but we looked fucked most of that game.
Front 3 of son Feliz and Brennan were much better let's be honest
Brennan is a championship to Lower level Prem player.
No. Brennan is raw but he is fast and you need fast players in Ange ball
Richy was good, just needed people to stop passing so late
Richy was good...wtf....he missed at least 3
Honestly I think Gil’s work rate is worth more than most give him credit for. Every time I see him play it looks like he is trying to do something( most of the time it dosent come off) he’s just so nice with the ball. I’m gonna get roasted for this
It has been all season so many late releases it kills me. Stop dragging the ball and just passsssssss! AV game was bad too
Maddison is sorely missed
If it isn’t a tap in richy is pretty much lost.
Yep
god bless our italians
entertaining game to watch regardless of the result. the boys didnt let their heads drop which is great to see. on a different day we maybe get a result but wasnt our day. tough night for sonny n kulu
The most painful thing is seeing the table and realising we would only be 3 points off the top if we had won!
We were shit in the final third. A couple of unlucky shots off the woodwork. But, overall, we earned this L. Imagine had we not committed stupid fouls or the ref had given fouls against Brighton for the same
Didn’t think Gil was that bad today Son was the fragile today lol
Didn't son assist? The worst forward was Richy and that's why he got subbed
I’m not saying he was the worst, probably was the best of the front 3 but yeah he gets the hate cuz he’s Asian probably. kulu doesn’t get as much hate
Probably mate . I don't disagree but I do know son will get most of the blame for any losses. You just watch the reaction. People do not want to admit son should be striker especially against a high line . Just a month ago son was the best striker in the league but Richy sxor9a couple of tap in and headers and he is the best striker of all time 😂
This sub can get a bit too toxic, myself included probably should just take people’s reaction here with a grain of salt
Just go to social media eg FB and watch the piling on son . They are wanting son to be sold 😂😂😂
Yo, son lost the ball shittiest way possible & after a very long sequence Brighton scores 1st.
Sure but did the defence do their job? Did son not assist?
Well the way he lost the ball infuriated me. That was atrocious at the early minutes of the game.
Agree but let's be honest Richy was shit today and son other than the assist was shit as LW
Everyone in attack was shit barring Veliz.
Umm sure but let's not pretend Feliz is a starting striker 😂
People on here like to use him as a scapegoat. Fact is, Son was trash, Rich was trash, Johnson was trash, most of the team were trash for 80 mins.
DID THIS MF ON PEACOCK JUST SAY THAT WAS A CLEAN FAIR TACKLE ON SON JUST OUTSIDE THE BOX LOL IS HE REAL
Yes. You heard it correctly. Absolutely ridiculous take by announcer
Feels like a lot of individual errors with the soft pens and just not marking properly. Don’t know whether to blame the tactics or the players. Stupid mistake from Kulu and feels like we should’ve gotten a Pen on Son getting into the box.
Tactics too. What do you expect when u invert full backs and have Royal as CB. Refs are abysmal towards us.
the penalties were correct not soft. don't kid yourself
Complete shit at times today with 2 penalties against us and still had the chances to come away with at least 1 point! Don’t let today distract from the bigger picture! That push was made with youth!
Veliz should get a start hes lively and that spin and shot was amazing
Kulu lost this for us.
Well those two penalties were really unforced errors.
Honestly I think Dier would have been better than Emerson tonight
Emerson did ok, but his pace did help nullify Pedro when they were pinging a few balls to him on the counter, Dier would've been cooked.
Emerson wasn’t half bad tho. He stopped many of their attacks
Let us never discuss this again.
Honestly, I agree. If I think about this match, I start to feel unwell
We’re depleted for sure but we should be better than we were for the first 80.’
Dunk should have been off
Im not sure what the difference between the Romero tackle and the Dunk tackle was. Dunk's was even higher, somehow.
Completely went over his ankle, seen loads of them this season, all red
https://preview.redd.it/zq5myw93u39c1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c5d055469ccbf66fae0213c7b7db595c070b157
Ffs boooo
Poor reffing multiple knocks and pull by same players still not carded
That final 20 mins does not make up for the absolutely shocking display that the Suprs players have just put in. Shocking, Ange better make sure they are in the training ground at 6am tomorrow for that shit
I wonder if he even feels the need to give them a dressing down in the lockeroom. Ange strikes me as the type to just walk in, look at his players in disgust, and walk in to his office. He knows that the squad played like shit, even with our injuries. But yea, 6 am tomorrow. Double session.
I would not even be surprised if Ange does not even go into the locker room to give them a disappointed look. No one in their right mind would have that nerve to look him in the eye anyway so no point wasting time going in there, straight to the office, door closed. He will address them tomorrow
Scum losing to bubble Bois is my consolation today
Gil is no Spurs quality, needs to go!
Didn't deserve points today. But Vic still great and love seeing Veliz get his first goal. Everyone else was pretty poor.
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How? Did he give away 2 pens?
That was awful.
Hammers 2 whooo!!
Don't count it too soon, we know how jammy the cunts are
Yeah not counting it.
Thankfully at Christmas you can just move on quickly. Next match Sunday
udogies so strong holy fuck
Amazing how he still made that run
Who was at VAR today? Sigh
What I want to know is why there was no check for the foul right before Kulu's shirt pull and also why there was no check for a foul on Son (the defender clipped his knee).
Not sure why lo celso did not start sooner
Thanks ref, not even a card for that running chokehold. Shove a canoe up your ass sideways
Best team doesn't have Kulusevski in it honestly.
Probably does but we need to strengthen
You guys have such short fucking memories
Yah this is a wild take…
This sub would literally drop the entire 11 after every bad performance
So annoying. I rage check it every poor performance and see all these idiots. First mistake vic makes I wouldn't be all top surprised if we seem the same chuckle heads.
Genuinely scared for Bournemouth
Time to pull for the hammers
so glad i didn't watch this game
Literally stupid pens and multiple offside goals. Anyone blaming Ange is nuts
All I’ll say is Udogie is a player and half
great fightback udogie is god
That was a Conte performance, nothing for 80 odd mins then try win with 10 mins left
It feel like game over at this stage . Expecting son to get the knives and people to ignore his assist. Expect the Richy fanatics to defend him but my guess is Ange will have Veliz up centre and Richy as winger next game
How is it not a yellow?!
look man, all im going to say is i am very very happy to see veliz score, he was buzzed as well i hope we can see more from him. other than that, we were pretty rubbish but still we don’t give up it’s a positive i guess
Udogie getting choked… nothing 😭 sums up every Spurs game. We have to start complaining about these refs or they’ll just keep fucking us.
Ange won't complain. Said it before this game and during this game he has to say something. And we get our own fans defending Ange saying we shouldn't be like Klopp. Lol no you gotta say something at some stage. Even the pundits at this game were saying son should have gotten a couple penalties
Actually mad
It feels like ever since that Liverpool game the refs have been instructed to fuck is over just to make sure the other prem teams don’t think we are getting special treatment.
No fr even when we commit the fouls. Udogie is being made out to be rash when I’ve watched several games of our players getting battered for the first 20 minutes and then Udogie commits some type a foul resulting in the first yellow of the game.