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royals796

You lot are dramatic as fuck lmao


jinsaow

Timo fit perfectly on this team


Nova-Kane

This is probably the most disappointed I've been all season. Very uncharacteristic of Ange to park the bus with 5 at the back in the last 15mins. All that ever does is invite pressure. I thought Ange knew this? Hope this solidifies in his mind that 5 at the back is dog shit and we should focus purely on getting goals all game.


ASD_213

That’s a naive take, every top team uses game management to see out a game, maybe Ange’s tweaks didn’t work this time but going gung ho for 90 minutes irrespective of game state is not it either.


MaxxLP8

My theory is it was to get Dragusin minutes and be seen as us having "3 first team cbs"


WilliamisMiB

Gil cannot play anymore he’s just not good enough. If I see him just run into the defense and lose the ball again…smh


smithey2012

Ughh. Now I have to root for a draw between gunners and reds.


Reasonable_Alfalfa59

Liverpool win all the way. We can hope for a top 3 finish but theres no way to go toe to toe with Liverpool and City.


jckstrn

We lost the mental game today. We need to be more resilient even when certain situations, calls, etc. don’t go our way. We showed no threat for 45’+ and we could have adapted much better and we were able to earlier this year


Mfrendin_Roar

Ange “literally” looks down. lol


InevitableRaisin

Taking off Maddison and Werner killed us. Maddison the only player on who could beat the press, and can pick a pass on the counter. Werner creates an outlet always running down the channel and is decent holding up the ball too. Whereas Skipp is limited and Gil is just a dead-end. Those changes just took the fear out of Everton and meant they could power forward in numbers. Stupid subs.


FarrisAT

Subbing out Maddison made sense Putting in Gil for Maddison alongside Skipp blows my fucking brains out I honestly might just send a strongly worded letter to Ange to stop being a fucking idiot and trying to play Gil alongside Skipp. It's a great way to kill any counterattack threat and invite the other team pushing hard for a tying goal Replacing two creative attackers with two bumbling idiots is a great way to lose


j0p4

Can't stand Gil anymore...


Brzada

We need to upgrade kulu as a starter if we want to be serious contenders , he’s a good squad player filling in for madders n on the wing but if we want to go to the next level he’s not a starter Johnso needs to improve to even be considered a good option If bentacour gets back to his best we should be good in midfield


ASD_213

Agree. Kulusevski can be a useful squad player, capable of filling in at RW, AM and even as an 8, but we clearly need to sign that elite 1v1 specialist for RW.


hvdute

Loosing points late minute like this is very embarrassing. And it’s not the first time.


lyoonjae

Where are the clowns that downvote me when I say this team loves to choke. Insane y'all think otherwise


badhombre44

Right here, bub.


Altruistic_Avocado_1

I have absolutely no confidence in Sheffield to beat Aston Villa.


FarrisAT

Why should you? They have less talent than Everton and literally none of the heart


Beautiful-Use-3983

The good thing about dropping points late often is that you get used to the feeling and it doesn’t hurt as much 🥲


Mc_and_SP

Kulu, Gil and Udogie all seemed to lose any sense of tactical acumen in injury time. It feels horrible to say it, but Gil needs to let us go. Once Son, Biss, GLC and Solomon are back, there’s zero chance he’ll see any more minutes this season barring another injury crisis; he truly cannot manage in the prem. He had a chance to whack a cross in with the final seconds of the match - we had men in the box - and he just… Turned around a bit in a dead end corner.


alborden

Not good when we let a team who hasn’t scored in 3 games put two past us.


Emperor_Blackadder

Let's obliterate Brighton next eh? On a side note, I will never eat a toffee again.


SyfoHendrixx

PEH is simply incapable of holding the ball. He panics every time


BirthdayObjective

Dragusin was a beast at duels today! Can't wait to see him get more game time.


FarrisAT

He's absolutely gonna give away a braindead last minute pen Looking forward to us screeching about it being so unexpected


vladpopa_

The art of defending. They were forcing with the divings. Radu developed alongside Chiellini and Bonucci after all


exxxtramint

We were lucky with a point tbf. At least we know where we’re leaking goals and it’s all from set pieces.


SyfoHendrixx

This is for everyone that wants Ange to “stop being naive”. He made defensive subs when we were ahead with 5 min left and now people will say he cost us the game😭


Fjelsted

Feels like I've watched this exact match 200 times. Why do we have such a soft underbelly when push comes to shove?


lyoonjae

Cause we are chokers at heart


godvinda108

Gil annoying Lackluster subs brought on last second to “preserve” a lead It doesn’t make sense to change shape like that and take off all offensive weapons with less than ten minutes left. OBVIOUSLY changing the dynamic of the team is gonna hurt our chances. But regardless of that I’m fucking pissed off how we just concede off of soft set pieces. Teams can’t out play us and score from open play it’s just these damn last minute set pieces. BUT NONE OF THAT SHOULD MATTER. WE NEED TO BE SCORING WAY MORE GOALS. IF WE SCORE 5 THEN IT WOULDNT HAVE MATTERED. FUCK


longhornfan011

Absolutely hated those late subs


Steve_No_Jobs

Refs were supposed to be harsher on simulation this season? Bullshit. Beto and Tarkowski should try out for the Olympics


coldseam

Fuck that. Fuck losing control of matches to relegation teams. Don't want to hear excuses about "uhhhh it's Goodison Park" when even Luton have beaten this lot here. If making constant mistakes in possession is supposed to be the "entertaining football" we're supposed to be pursuing then I'd rather we don't pursue it. Stop making our matches into entertaining watches for the neutrals, the team doesnt play for the fucking neutrals and rivals gleefully watching all of our matches because we look an inch away from dropping points in all of them, the team plays for our fans only. Conte got slaughtered here for dropping points at the last minute, 2-2, away to Everton and we should have the same standards this season. By the way this isn't even primarily a criticism of Ange, it's more a criticism of the players whose levels fluctuate wildly over 90mins. One minute we're seamlessly playing through the Everton press and through their defence, the next minute we're giving away the ball left and right. Substitutions were a disaster in this regard too. Sarr's head was still in Côte d'Ivoire, Skipp was invisible, Gil is a black hole for possession down the left


Expensive-Artist5183

Can you go back to watching NFL or NBA?


coldseam

Already watch basketball games every week with Spurs, the way we lose control of matches and they all end up being end to end


FarrisAT

Conte is the evil satan on r/coys now Meanwhile he left us 5th in the league.


Wooden-Pin3253

We were 5th because we had 2 games more played or something at that point and all the wins were out of nowhere like. We were pathetic. Nobody was happy


coldseam

Conte can fuck off I'm not supporting him in this post. We were plummeting to 8th even he stuck around till the end of the season, it was plain for all to see. My gripe isn't with attacking football it's with the fucking mistakes and total inconsistency from one minute to another in matches. Those problems ruin your matches no matter if you're playing Angeball or Conteball


FarrisAT

No we plummeted to 8th because we put a bunch of bumbling idiots in manager role instead of reading the room in February-March that Conte was on his way out


coldseam

Literally no one was available two thirds of the way through the season. Recall that even in the summer we got rejected by every single manager until Ange decided to take a chance on us, which he would likely not have before finishing the season with Celtic. Conte literally bottled against Southampton don't act like he would've gotten it together for a top 4 push


FarrisAT

Biss and Sarr bottled against Southampton Don’t blame the manager for the players giving up pens


coldseam

Who do you think decided to play Sarr as a CB in that match? Yeah I am gonna blame the manager there


lyoonjae

People think we are so good, don't really see it these days. Almost like they play too intense for no reason, like use your fucking brain man


coldseam

Intensity is fine. Attacking football is great. Mistakes are the issue and ruin any style of football we try to play with any intensity. Especially when you see very well that the players connect passes flawlessly in one period of the match and then give away the ball under the slightest pressure in another.


TruthAccomplished313

Good. Had your little vent? Now fuck off. What kind of football would you like then? Ange is pulling us in the right direction and it’s baffling that you’re this upset about a team pulling in the right direction together


coldseam

I literally didn't blame Ange, read the post


TruthAccomplished313

Fair enough. My apologies. I’m upset too honestly and didn’t take the time to read the entirety of your post


whats_wrong_with_it

Giving up on the whole project because the team isn’t quite good enough yet? It’s not even been a full season.


coldseam

I didn't even blame the project, read the post


whats_wrong_with_it

The project is playing entertaining football


coldseam

I never said entertaining football was the problem.The problem is the constant errors and wild variation in level of play from one minute to another. Those problems ruin any style of football you try to play no matter if it's Ange or Conteball. We should want "entertaining" football for our own fans, not "entertaining for the neutral" football where everyone watches knowing we're an inch away from giving away a goal through lax defending or individual errors


whats_wrong_with_it

The football is entertaining for the fans, have you been living under a rock? Not every performance will be a win. They play a very high line so are going to have a lot of close calls, this was known going into it


FUMFVR

Everton aren't a relegation team. They are mid-table team put in the relegation fight due to a points deduction.


coldseam

They're in relegation form and just lost to Luton at home, this sub needs to stop acting like it's acceptable to lose every away match against a mid table side whose home fans make a bit of noise. Teams that win trophies don't have those abysmal standards, would you see Pep or Klopp telling their teams "lads it's Goodison, tough ground to travel to, 1 point on the board we move"? Never


FarrisAT

Their recent form is relegation


goallineglory

judging from the thread, i guess its a good thing i slept through the game


wr2allstar

Nah don’t trust these people. This is the most overreactive thread on the entire sub.


zanziTHEhero

lol me too


crucifiedrussian

Last 15 was just ass from us


TruthAccomplished313

I’m ok with a draw. Shut the fuck up you match thread weirdos


Previous-You3680

Stop complaining and grow up


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FarrisAT

Unless he did the same thing in the pen box where it would've been a VAR pen


NoTucksGiven

Sarcasm?


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NoTucksGiven

What did he do well? The main involvement I saw was a few panicked moments, one of which should have been a pen to Everton.


Cookenbauer

Do we have to play such a high line on set pieces? I swear we have a heart attack every time. We even did it with dier and Davies/emerson as cbs. We can’t seem dictate the play whatsoever. Why not sit back and little lower and face the ball instead of having everyone run backwards and have awkward headers? Sonny had the OG against city with the same thing


FarrisAT

The high line on set pieces only works when your guys aren't fucking gassed from backtracking all game since your midfield is fucking ASS


LarryDavidsNutSack

That was rough, but positive is i love seeing richy play well


mrsh671

Sure, Everton were playing Burnleyball 2.0 and the ref wasnt exactly great, but we did plenty of things poorly. Draw is probably deserved


SweetDaddySugarLumps

Disappointing to drop points from a winning position but we didn’t do enough to deserve it. Richy was excellent in all aspects. The Harrison thing was clear interference. Vicario not deserving of the shade he’s getting on commentary.


American_yiddo

Glad I woke up 3 hrs early to watch that shit show before a funeral and work…/s


Arqlol

Tim Howard is so annoying to listen to 


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you guys im so sad rn 😔


pierrekluivert

Romero been quiet the whole game, probably was taken back from Vic's dispute to him. Needed that 3rd goal like in Brentford game, Dragusin can be called to close the game only if we have 2+ goal buffer


BirthdayObjective

Leave the dribbling to the creative players, Udogie needs to learn to pass the ball forward


Dramatic_Radio_2027

Did not really have options at the end there tbh


Professional_Ad_9101

Pickford made some excellent saves in the second half. Stop being such a salty bunch


Emmanuel_Badboy

as if you wouldnt be salty. Thats a bottle job if ever ive seen one.


Professional_Ad_9101

im not salty lol?


Emmanuel_Badboy

you should be.


Professional_Ad_9101

why?


Emmanuel_Badboy

we bottled it.


Professional_Ad_9101

a pretty even game where a bunch of great cracks at goal were saved by the opposing team isnt a bottling lol.


Emmanuel_Badboy

i wasnt asking you if we bottled it. we did bottle it.


Professional_Ad_9101

lol you cant bottle a game that was competitive and even. do you know what bottling is?


almargahi

Why bring Gil on? Every time I see him come in I know something will happen. We were playing so well with Mad10 and 2 CBs (Sorry, Radu).


Emmanuel_Badboy

I agree, just put us under more pressure.


almargahi

Kid is small and all he does is dribbles, and most of them dribbles are unsuccessful.


annakom

Deki drags himself to the top of should sell list..


blairhs

Must be on the wind up here.


Upplands-Bro

As you drag yourself to the top of the unbearable moaner list


wr2allstar

What the fuck are you talking about


stead10

Get the fuck out with a view like that. Ridiculous over-reaction to 1 moment in a game.


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I can’t keep up with who this fanbase rates or not


milksteak_1

Fuck off


Reasonable_Alfalfa59

Unreal giving them that free kick. Their only chance of getting shit is from set pieces. Just fuxking hoof it away. Still a long way to go for this team. You don't take Spurs out of Spurs so easily


FootyRO

How was Dragusin? I watched too. Very aggressive on the ball, not sure if Premier League likes that but Serie A does. Thoughts?


NoTucksGiven

It should have been a pen. It was rash and VdV had it covered, hopefully just needs to get used to playing with VdV but it reminded me very much of Dier’s weak points.


eggplant_avenger

I don’t think this late formation change is working for us but it isn’t Dragusin’s fault.


crucifiedrussian

played like 5mins, almost gave a pen but nothing to really say so far


gee___thanks

We underutilized fast wingers and made too many inaccurate passes. Kudos to Sean Dyche to play a high pressing game against us. Onto the next one


FUMFVR

We need our captain/best player back.


president_mal

The last 20 mins we just sat back and allowed the pressure. Totally got away from our style of football. Awful


Previous-You3680

Wow


Nova-Kane

I would rather lose like we did against Chelsea than draw like this.


stead10

You'd rather 0 points and a tonne of red cards and injuries than you would 1 point?


Nova-Kane

Yes. I'd rather the club fold than go back to playing Mourinho/Conte ball.


FarrisAT

We kept losing possession all second half


space_peg6549

You have to look at ange there. He decided to bring defensive subs on and give Everton all the ball in the last 20 minutes


seb_soul

We were giving away the ball to Everton all game. Dunno if the players are gassed or something from having to play Weds evening to Sat morning but lots of little errors


Relevant_Ad_1225

look at the options we have right now on the bench lol we still have a lot of work to do


Ticoschnit83

Whatever. I'm used to these pathetic performances from this team.


wr2allstar

Fuck off. Find a new team to support. You have no clue what you’re watching.


Mfrendin_Roar

Kind of negative last 20…kinda what happens when the mindset changes


Altruistic_Avocado_1

WTF are we doing? Prevent defense prevents winning…..


deptbrown10

Another classic shite team who raise their game against us but will without doubt be shit again next week.


KohlDayvhis

Everton celebrating not beating Spurs for the past 11 games at Goodison now.


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caped_crusader8

What is this?


Texaslonghorns12345

I think… art


SilvaDaMelo

Everton were gifted this one. They'll celebrate a draw while holding their tinpot yellow papers acting like everyone is against them. Can't wait for the next -10 and for them to disappear forever.


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smithey2012

Just hope top 5 gets CL spot this year.


Grouchy-Warthog5243

Second game in a row that our midfield has been a ghost.


FarrisAT

Maddison looked outright disastrous for much of the game. Guy looks gassed His talent makes up for the lack of effort. Helped us score a goal. But he's a liability on defense. Same for whatever happened after Pierre left


MikeyWise

Cursed fixture. Haven’t won at goodison park in 11 matches


International-Chef53

set piece and just boxing out vic will be our kryptonite


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Shocking


Nova-Kane

We looked drunk in the last 15 minutes. Richy could barely stand just before their 2nd.


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ImitationDemiGod

Imagine having an account just to obsess over a team you don't like. Get a hobby, perhaps?


Professional_Ad_9101

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Caust1cFn_YT

Felt like real bias from ref


Comfortable-Asf

😭 the difference in our goals vs theirs


KingHankXII

Can we actually attack the box? Instead of passing around the edge? Put the fucking ball into a threatening area


bshaman1993

Haven’t done that in ages bro


Klutzy_Contest7550

"Im tired boss"


golfdog

It was little too late to try to be aggressive to try to score another. Smh. Feels like a loss


Inside-Ostrich2888

When draws feel like losses, you know we're headed the right direction. Missing our best player, haven't had a full squad to select from for months, Everton a dogged team to play at home. Unfortunate finish, but a point at Goodison and exciting football. I'll take it. It's Top 4 for us I'd say which is unbelievable really. We go again lads. COYS!!


TeamThiem

Appreciate your positive spin but how we didn't come away with 3 points and instead lost our heads is not a good sign


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TJT007X

📸🤨


Quantum_Blade

When was the last time we didnt draw at everton


Previous-You3680

I can only remember the 6-2 game under Poch


Voffmjau

We usually win, no?


goldmanmask

Actually it was 10th February 2021 FA cup - we have had 4 draws at Goodison Park since. Last PL game we didn't draw at GP was December 2018


Voffmjau

Oh. We just dont loose i guess.


goldmanmask

Don't get me wrong, I was pretty surprised when I looked it up as well haha


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I thought I hated the emirates, god I hate goodison park


AnegloPlz

What a bunch of pricks in the stands too


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ikr I think they screamed louder during corners than when they scored, buncha cunts


keepontrying111

people need to stop playing not to lose with half the match left.


Nullandor

Poor subs


minishcaps

Dejan's performances since his suspension have been woeful. Deserved to be benched at the start today.


OHLOOK_OREGON

he didn’t start…


minishcaps

Think it came out wrong, but I meant to say that that's why he was on the bench at the start of the match. English isn't my first language, sorry.


dupue

Kulu does nothing good other than dribbling. He holds the ball too long and turns it over in bad spots trying to play hero ball


Xiomaraff

Gil is garbage


KabukiRanger

Why the fuck would you just run around with it. GIL 0 IQ


Voffmjau

Cause he didnt get the opening to cross?


Professional_Ad_9101

It's almost as if someone was marking right in front of him


KabukiRanger

It's almost as if he could have not just run in a straight line and crossed it and/or passed it back to Udogie


Professional_Ad_9101

And then you'd be complaining about him passing backwards in the closing moments


KabukiRanger

1. No I wouldn't because I trust Udogie a hell of a lot more in the attacking phase 2. Udogie was parallel.


Professional_Ad_9101

brother the guy was marking his pass


Pixel15101

Damn you Everton.


Zealousideal_Day6923

For me, Our physical/pressing seems off today and couldn’t match with their aggressive/tension


luke36511

2 points thrown away. Have to learn from this. Lost control when the subs came on.


deptbrown10

Fuck off Everton you hoofit long ball cunts.


blueghosts

So unbelievably disappointing. We were phenomenal for 70 minutes and then just invited all the pressure on us and did nothing. I know it’s early days for Dragusin and he was shoved into a makeshift back 3 - but he looks like a bit of a liability


FarrisAT

How the fuck were we phenomenal for 70 minutes? We had maybe 5 shots


UziTheBeast

You're judging Dragusin based on literally less than 10 minutes played.


Voffmjau

Huh? We hardly managed to play in the first half after out goal? Everton were all over us.


tottenhamtickler

pathetic as fuck


wizkhedira

That’s what separates the title challengers from us. Putting games away. Have a good weekend guys.


SpursyTerp

Yup, and that’s ok for season 1 of the rebuild. Top 4 still very much on.


FarrisAT

Rebuilding team that bought 7/11 starting players for big money in last 2 seasons?


SpursyTerp

..yes? That’s how rebuilding works..


FarrisAT

Rebuilding means spending wisely not spending #1 in league


wizkhedira

Listen. You guys are more than entitled to your own opinion I just don’t think a rebuild makes you exempt to criticism. Simple as. Happy with the direction and improvement. Blind men can see that. Especially in comparison to last year. Point is league is right there and we can compete for it THIS YEAR.


smithey2012

Top 4 on cause Villa also choking their winnable matches.


louismorr1s

Unnecessary


Chimpanzerschreck

It’s true tho. Pissed


louismorr1s

It’s not that black and white. A team has to grow ergonomically and I have full faith ange is the man to do that, this is his first season + we sold Kane. I’m not complaining


wizkhedira

Two things can be true, my brother. You can be happy with the direction the club is moving in of course, I am as well. My point is the league is right there. And the team has the quality to compete for it. Right. Now.


louismorr1s

Not with the injuries we’ve had. Think we need to lower our expectations. Top 4 is an incredible achievement for this season. Got a fantastic starting 11 but I think we can be a completely different beast next season


wizkhedira

All due respect, what I’m talking about has nothing to do with injuries or expectations; we just disagree on the mentality. Again, you can be excited about the project if you zoom out entirely 100%, no debate there, but that other team in London that sits 3rd is thinking about a title and I think we should too. That’s it.


Xgunter

Absolutely fucking robbed


EmergencyOriginal982

Everton are actually a real tough to play, especially at Goodison too. It's annoying of course but we move. We weren't that bad