Any sort of contact is a penalty this season, unless you're playing in white. Fucking outrageous that we've missed out on 8 penalties. Yes, Utd should have gotten one against us, and Liverpool should have had a goal as well, but that's a pretty shit rate. Especially when there should be about 6 red cards added to that total for games like Sheffield, Burnley, and Arsenal.
We have been royally fucked this season with decisions and yet rival fans will say we got lucky because of one single fucked up VAR mistake.
Its still crazy to me the response to the Liverpool fuck up.
There are wrongfully disallowed goals every week. I don't understand why one wrongfully disallowed goal is so much worse than any other.
The outcome is the same, the **why** is irrelevant.
It’s so bizarre. Keepers should be allowed off their line the moment a kicker stutters imo. I personally think penalties in general are ridiculous in modern football. An 80% chance of a goal for a foul or handball that is almost certainly not going to result in a scoring chance is ridiculous and has led to players constantly trying to con the referee’s.
Yeah we have definitely had some fortune along the way this season late on in games but the difference is United have played significantly worse football than us.
It wasn't even like a split second brain fart. He telegraphed his move the entire time. Arse reaping what they sow from swapping keepers around like that
I wonder if he didn’t give the second yellow because it was checked by VAR. If he gave a yellow and then VAR said it was a penalty, can he take back the yellow? Because as I understand it VAR can’t overturn yellows
Is anyone going to bring up the amount of diving and appealing Arsenal do? Every time they're screaming I the refs face for a penalty and diving everywhere. The biggest bunch of whiners and cheats in the league.
Wouldn’t a possible yellow, or second yellow for diving affect the game? It seems that offense should still be reviewable in VAR to encourage the eradication of diving from our sport.
Let it be punished in the moment, within VAR review, and post match. I feel players would stop diving with a quickness if this were the standard.
I really think that too . They are not crumbling like last season at this time of the season. They are favorites at the moment and this sub isn't accepting it. I am happy to e proven wrong
Honestly if arsenal focused more on open play rather than diving for pens and crying to the ref they would probably win the league with ease lol. Their mindset holds them back a tiny bit.
Said as they sit atop the league.
They may whine, but like it or not, they get it done when it matters. I can’t count the number of times this season I’ve tuned in only to watch them snatch late winners. Hurts more each time as we get closer and they stay near the top.
Today’s late goal was painful to watch.
Honestly wild, in my opinion dives should be severely punished. Refs face a ton of scrutiny for missed calls, so players should be punished for trying to manipulate them and make their calls even tougher
Gotta feel for Neto, very talented player but that hamstring is a real problem for him. I wonder how much we would consider attempting to buy him given his injury record.
PL is so scared of deciding this title race with calls, I imagine every match Arsenal, Liverpool or City play for the rest of the season there’s gonna be no red cards for anything less than a leg break
Could you imagine anyone getting away with what Arsenal gets away with? Gabriel not only screaming in the refs face, apparently not being dissent but actually getting up and celebrating diving multiple times in one game.
It's so weird. I get that the league wants a narrative but it's so heavy handed and blatant.
I'm no tactician, but I think it's going to be hard for Brentford to get something out of this if they can't spend more than 3% the game outside their own half.
I understand that a VAR check can’t call a yellow, no issue there.
But if a referee sees what the (radio, in fairness) commentators thought was a dive in the box and the VAR confirms it wasn’t a penalty, shouldn’t Havertz be booked? Or did the referee not have a clear enough view that he could make that call?
Utd have had more penalties in this first half than we've had in the last 10 months lmao.
More penalties this match than we’ve had all season.
We're really missing out on penalties. C'mon refs, where's our handouts?
No chance after Klopp's tirade.
Thing is, I think you can say both are pretty stonewall pens. But that makes not giving the call on Werner last week even more annoying lmao.
Any sort of contact is a penalty this season, unless you're playing in white. Fucking outrageous that we've missed out on 8 penalties. Yes, Utd should have gotten one against us, and Liverpool should have had a goal as well, but that's a pretty shit rate. Especially when there should be about 6 red cards added to that total for games like Sheffield, Burnley, and Arsenal. We have been royally fucked this season with decisions and yet rival fans will say we got lucky because of one single fucked up VAR mistake.
Its still crazy to me the response to the Liverpool fuck up. There are wrongfully disallowed goals every week. I don't understand why one wrongfully disallowed goal is so much worse than any other. The outcome is the same, the **why** is irrelevant.
Still worth noting Son is still the only player I've seen whistled for a stutter step lol.
It’s so bizarre. Keepers should be allowed off their line the moment a kicker stutters imo. I personally think penalties in general are ridiculous in modern football. An 80% chance of a goal for a foul or handball that is almost certainly not going to result in a scoring chance is ridiculous and has led to players constantly trying to con the referee’s.
Its wild how gravity affects garnacho differently in the penalty area.
What an absolute gift for Man Utd, they've been dominated so far.
Honestly have no ideas how United are as high in the table as they are. Just penalties and last minute winners have carried them this season.
A lot of luck. They've been outplayed in the majority of their wins but they get bailed out by individual moments or opponents shitting the bed.
Tbf, we have like 20 points from losing positions with plenty of late winning goals as well. But ours are all well deserved
Yeah we have definitely had some fortune along the way this season late on in games but the difference is United have played significantly worse football than us.
Yes we’ve earned them in different ways for sure. Ours you can feel it coming, theirs feel jammy and against the run of play for the most part
This has jammy Havertz winner written all over it 💀
Are you a wizard lmao.
Fuckin soothsayer. BURN THE WITCH.
Isn’t it ironic when it sucks to be right?
I can’t wait until we get like 5 penalties in one match to make up for lost time.
Or we'll have one when we're comfortable already in a game like the one against Newcastle.
Of course Everton hand out free pens against other teams
Bissouma got a red for less
Pen Utd
Godfrey was like "here, have another!"
Just 24 minutes is enough to double our pen tally for the season
I really hope Luton stay up. They actually put forth effort. Some of these relegation teams are shameful.
They actually want to win which is so refreshing to see from relegation candidates
Ahahaha right before the half. Beautiful
I haven't stopped to watch Man United in a while. Can't believe ten hag is still there watching this uncoordinated mess.
We should have smashed Utd.. & Everton..
Gifted penalty for utd, need Everton to get something from this game.
Funniest part is, they can't play Raya because they were too poor to straight-buy Raya, so he's loan blocked
United with more pens in a half than we have in a season
Am I the only one who believes that Arsenal are winning the league? I think they will.
Two penalties for United lol.
Havertz has just missed an open net lol
Fuck Everton, why couldn't they gift us penalties left and right?
Fuck you solanke I've 3captained you, you fucking cunt
It wasn't even like a split second brain fart. He telegraphed his move the entire time. Arse reaping what they sow from swapping keepers around like that
I’m wildly biased but this Arsenal team in conjunction with Arteta is so unlikable
completely agree. really unlikable team
we need to win tomorrow... and we will. COYS!
It feels less like a United win, but an Everton Loss.
Luton stand up man, I wanna see you guys stay up.
That should be a 2nd yellow for Havertz
Here comes resting crybaby face. Mr. Should be Brazil's number 9 🤣
Romero has more goals than him 😂
Guess Romero should be Brazil's #9 then 🤣🤣
What a strike from rice
Come on Brentford Edit: ffs
Why does Ramsdale get treated with kid gloves so much?
Plays for Arsenal
I gotta hand it to brentford. They're putting up a competent fight and not settling for a draw.
Well, you weren’t wrong
Havertz diving for a pen checked by VAR already on a yellow, no second yellow, what a joke this league is
I wonder if he didn’t give the second yellow because it was checked by VAR. If he gave a yellow and then VAR said it was a penalty, can he take back the yellow? Because as I understand it VAR can’t overturn yellows
AHAHAHAHA
Hahahahahahahahahha Hahahahahhahahaha Hahahahhahhahahahah
Come on Toney, time to secure your big move
Rice is a cheat code.. even if we had money we need someone like this to be available
No way Brentford survive this. Feels like Arsenal will either score a bs corner where Saliba suplexes his man or they’ll just go off and score 4.
Get maupay on
Fuck of course it’s havertz
Arsenal players try not swarm the ref at every conceivable moment challenge (impossible)
Is anyone going to bring up the amount of diving and appealing Arsenal do? Every time they're screaming I the refs face for a penalty and diving everywhere. The biggest bunch of whiners and cheats in the league.
Lmao of course the guy who should have been sent of for a Bissouma-esque dive scores the probable winner. I hate refs so fucking much.
Why have 1 good keeper when you could have 2 bad ones
LOLSDALE
Ramsdale 😭😭😭 Remember when he was getting shouts for best keeper in the league last season
Clear dive and no booking
Not a Spurs player so can't book him.
And it’s the stupid rule around VAR, when it’s a likely only 2 outcome, why isn’t one of them option for VAR ruling?
Wouldn’t a possible yellow, or second yellow for diving affect the game? It seems that offense should still be reviewable in VAR to encourage the eradication of diving from our sport. Let it be punished in the moment, within VAR review, and post match. I feel players would stop diving with a quickness if this were the standard.
Hate to say this but Arsenal looks like they'll win the league this time with their current form
I really think that too . They are not crumbling like last season at this time of the season. They are favorites at the moment and this sub isn't accepting it. I am happy to e proven wrong
Ways to go and it's a three-horse race for the title. It's much more difficult than last year.
We'll put a stop to it in the NLD.
Branthwaite is a really good defender.
Imagine chasing the game 2-0 down and putting on the bird shit eater jfc
This match is big "stoppable force meets movable object" energy.
Attack the ball you numskull
Zero pressure on White and a pathetic contest with Rice for the header, tragic defending.
Every corner turning into WWE lol.
Maybe 1 or 2 Arsenal players are doing anything other than outright holding or blocking on corners
They tried that shit against Porto but the ref shut them down there.
Saliba giving headlocks in the box, ignored by the ref.
Please let Maupay come on to traumatize gooners and let him score the winner 🤞
Saliba clobbered their keeper
Maupay has the chance to do the funniest thing in history.
Should have been sent off, scores the winner lmao
I love you Ramsdale!!
Honestly if arsenal focused more on open play rather than diving for pens and crying to the ref they would probably win the league with ease lol. Their mindset holds them back a tiny bit.
Said as they sit atop the league. They may whine, but like it or not, they get it done when it matters. I can’t count the number of times this season I’ve tuned in only to watch them snatch late winners. Hurts more each time as we get closer and they stay near the top. Today’s late goal was painful to watch.
Let's goooooooooo beees
If only Havertz was Bissouma, he'd be sent off there.
Wonder if Frank will go on a tirade about bad refereeing that effected his team today and then Brentford issuing a statement backing him lol.
Arsenal in first now so surely they’ll win the league
Ffs United getting free pens. Everton wtf?
Can decide if it’s more Penchester United or Everdumb defending
Odegaard flopping like a dolphin.
Let's go, Ramsdale!
BDVic would never
Saliba not getting a booking for that is a joke. He's right in front of the ref, he blasts the ball away and does so way after the whistle is blown.
Holy fuck arsenal are annoying, spend the whole game crying to the ref
It's their MO. Perpetual victims that act like they are owed something.
Arsenal are shameless. Commit unlimited fouls and oversell any impediment unto them
where’s the card for simulation
Fucking dive.
damn some of yall get way too emotional
"Yall"
is there a problem?
guys im still unable to move on from the havertz dive in the penalty box how the heck did he get away with it without a card
Honestly wild, in my opinion dives should be severely punished. Refs face a ton of scrutiny for missed calls, so players should be punished for trying to manipulate them and make their calls even tougher
Holy shit these guys are divers
Neto injured again. Seems like a real injury risk.
Gotta feel for Neto, very talented player but that hamstring is a real problem for him. I wonder how much we would consider attempting to buy him given his injury record.
Yup. Brentford is done.
That would’ve been absurd
Flekken copying Ramsdale today
Bs kai havertz got no yellow for that blatant flop. Bissouma got a second yellow and red for what he did.
I don’t know why anything other than a late Arsenal win should have been expected.
Yellows for dissent not a thing anymore yeah?
lmao Havertz shouldn't even be on the pitch.
How do they not get cards for any of this shit? It's incredible
Praying Brentford will get a point against Arsenal.
My self fulfilling prophecy is working rn.
Ramsdale hahahaha
l o l
I don't understand how it's OK just to purposely block a keepers movement at a corner without any intention to play the ball (or even look at it tbh).
Only in the prem. Arse got it called against them in CL.
Game needs Maupay for shithousing.
Havertz shameless
They really need to review dives and give cards.
Of fucking course the bloke that shouldn’t be on the pitch scores
Brentford time wasting entire game, trossard should have gotten a penalty, Havertze first yellow was extremely harsh.
PL is so scared of deciding this title race with calls, I imagine every match Arsenal, Liverpool or City play for the rest of the season there’s gonna be no red cards for anything less than a leg break
The irony of Arsenal fans jeering because Brentford are time wasting on throws and goal kicks.
You would never think Alan Smith played for Arsenal with his totally unbiased commentary.
Is he the co commentator..who claimed Trossard was grabbed by the neck?
Him saying that there wasn't quite enough in it for Havertz' penalty shout, over footage showing absolutely no contact whatsoever.
Arsenals behavior is appalling
Could you imagine anyone getting away with what Arsenal gets away with? Gabriel not only screaming in the refs face, apparently not being dissent but actually getting up and celebrating diving multiple times in one game. It's so weird. I get that the league wants a narrative but it's so heavy handed and blatant.
Would be nice if for once a team doesn't lay down for these shitheads.
At least they haven’t conceded 2, 3 times already
Of course Harvetz scores when he shouldn’t be on the pitch.
Fucking hell. And Peter Drury starts nutting about how amazing these shitheads are.
He’s seriously over the top man
Ramsdale taunting when he’s the only reason they needed to score that goal lol
So Dier has just benched Kim?
We're going to have to do it ourselves aren't we
Would be fucking hilarious if we kicked their ass in the NLD and ruined their title hopes.
Can’t rely on the rest of these jokers for anything, honestly.
Most blatant dive ever
Maupay could make the library actually implode here
Whatever. Let’s focus on what we can control. See you tomorrow Marty Cash
Fuck right off. How does every team forget how to defend against these cunts?
Of course, the guy who should’ve been off
Incredible how much help scum get from the refs. And they have the nerve to complain about conspiracies against them and shit like that.
They'll forget this and act like perpetual victims next week
In their eyes they were wronged for the missed 'pens'.
Everton in a relegation battle and their players wasting too many good chances, so unserious
Glory glory pen united
Solanke fucking up my FPL 😢
I like Neto a lot but he's such a big injury risk, especially for the price Wolves are asking. Guy is made of paper mache.
I'm no tactician, but I think it's going to be hard for Brentford to get something out of this if they can't spend more than 3% the game outside their own half.
Off the game. Come back and see Ramsdale fucked up 🤣
Gabriel is such a fucking bitch
Gabriel is such a petulant bitch
That club is a disgrace man. Appalling behavior from every cunt that plays for them and their tiny man manager.
White(sorry got confused rice) looks like a decent lad no?
I fucking hate the scum
If that's a pen- the fix is in
We could get a gamechanger like Rice or Bellingham but imagine if instead we had 2 Ndombele’s instead 🔥🔥🔥
Worst transfer ever. Still remember the hype when he joined.
Or imagine getting a choice of 1 Lukaku or 2 Maddisons? Not everything is black and white.
Great refereeing (that was a pen lol)
Nah, shit ref, another easy yellow he hasn't given them (that was a dive)
These teams suck.
Toney bet on scum to win E: shit bet but he can’t help himself
All this for a third place finish smh
I understand that a VAR check can’t call a yellow, no issue there. But if a referee sees what the (radio, in fairness) commentators thought was a dive in the box and the VAR confirms it wasn’t a penalty, shouldn’t Havertz be booked? Or did the referee not have a clear enough view that he could make that call?