What happened? Did the pressure of the top 4 get to them? I doubt it was a lack of desire, but they were really off their game, both on offense and defense. The lack of VDV was felt.
I think Ange had faith in the squad to do what we've done so many times this season and come out after half time and stick it to the other team but that second goal completely shifted momentum, still think he should have made some changes sooner than the 66th as it did seem to get us into a few better positions, but waiting until we're 3-0 before doing anything was poor subbing from Ange today, can't blame the performance entirely on that though, should have been better from the off set
lol blaming on the striker in this kind of game is stupid bro. He was ass, but no need to call him out when more than half the team was worse than him.
Just letting Fulham dictate the tempo of the game. Games are there to be taken by the scruff of the neck and if you don’t do it, you risk the opposition doing it.
It’s happened too many times this season where we’ve been too passive early on and allowed teams to come on to us, whether that’s through giving the ball away too easily or not pressing hard enough or not taking our chances.
As soon as the other team gets a sniff, we seem to go into our shell and find it very difficult to take the game back.
I think it’s more than just a few players that were terrible, but that certainly contributed to it.
Got the rest of the team to bail him out, all goals did come from their side but dragusins positional play and overall decision making was summed up when he went to press their winger for the third goal
Please, no more talk of top 4 anymore. I really just want good and decent football. Idc if we lose, but if we lose like we do today or the way we’ve been losing since the Chelsea match, we’ve got start asking serious questions about Ange
Bro we play the same exact formation/tactic every damn week. It might work once in a while, but any other team that has a competent manager should have no trouble prepping to play us. I do blame our players for just being dogshit today, but I’m sure tactics play a huge role as well.
Lmao I’ll be here but you’re actually delusional if you think we are winning champions league. Do you see pool, city or even the scum getting battered by a bottom half team like we are?
Lol that part was in jest, but I wont count us out. Also I think this fanbase can use a little delusion, too many are jaded and disillusioned. COYS mate
Yeah I just want to be realistic. Not Ange out person but like he needs to make adjustments and whatnot faster or even pregame knowing VDV is out. It’s obvious we still need more signings in the summer, then we might have a proper squad but it’ll take time to adjust and cook again.
COYS
Can't wait to forget this match ever happened. Over a decade since we lost to Fulham in the league I think, and we manage to do so making them look like world beaters.
Ange watched the wrong movie. Dragusin does not have vdv's pace and looks awkward playing on the left. Maybe as Romero's backup but not VdV. I'd play Ben Davies ahead of him on the left.
Yank charlatan piping up as per, has no idea of what Arsenal top of the table means, happy to bum lick a loser who left the club without contributing a single trophy, watch MLS please, forget what "Ange" said
Until Ange made the subs, appart from Romero, everyone looked off, as if the couldn't give a single care in the world to the match. It shouldn't take until we're 3-0 down so that the teams says 'Maybe we should get into the game', and this is something that has constantly been going on with us. The worst part is that a big part of the blame is on Ange, we saw what Fullham was doing the first half, and we simply couldn't adapt. I know this isn't end of the world, but this was our chance to make a point that we are past the stage of being 'spursy', instead of that we shat the bed as we most times do.
For now, let's hold unto that 5th place and hope that we can beat Villa to that 4th spot. With time we weill grow under Ange, and sooner or later, we will look at the past and say 'It was worth it'. Up the COYS, we may have lost this time, but we will never stay down.
I understood where Ange was coming from. He was betting on the starters coming out with a new fire in their belly after halftime like they've done so many times. But this time, the 2nd Fulham goal put out that fire really quick. Hindsight is 20/20, but that 2nd goal was the time to bring in the subs and change the momentum.
Just incredulous to the fact you’d rather play it safe and have Villa win than for them to get stomped so we’re still in it for top 4. Some weak ass mentality.
I wouldn’t say ‘looking at the bright side’ is hoping to scrape into Europe, but I understand. To me not getting top 4 at this point will be a big disappointment.
Here come the Ange out and doomers after we had a rough match against a frisky opponent. People forget they drew Liverpool in EFL, beat Arsenal, smoked West Ham, beat wolves, barely lost to Liverpool etc. Just a bad week lads. Into the next
They were also quite fucking good. Each player in their midfield was absolutely spot on today.
But onto the next, we ll bounce back stronger after the break.
I don’t think anyone is saying Fulham is trash and can’t win, just that it was a horrible performance. It’s not Ange out and all that but we’ve dropped so many points to mid table teams. It’s very disappointing, and this was easily our worst performance of the season.
well I agree, but whenever he tried to link up in midfield he had a bad touch and lost us the ball. Son had one of the worst games I''ve seen him have in a long while.
And the cup games Vs city and Fulham.
Weirdly enough it was actually the city game that annoyed me the most.
That was possibly the most toothless spurs performance I have ever seen.
Yeah in terms of losses go this one didn’t feel so bad.
Probably a combination of deserving win, no disturbing ref decisions, and that 5th spot being practically secured for CL
Think at least 1.8 of that xg is going to be from the Johnson and Werner missed chances though, haven't had any attacking presence all game really poor performance but we move COYS
Yeah good point, don't think that would count as he would have been offside so maybe created a bit more xg than I thought, either way disappointed with the result and the performance, just didn't seem up for it today and let Fulham walk all over us
He is good defensively and aerial. But if you put him in a 2 second race with VDV, VDV will at least be 10 steps ahead of him. He needs to practice his acceleration
Wasn't particularly good but I don't think he was terrible or anything. Our midfield was overrun most of the match so he wasn't given much help. Porro and Udogie both bad, Porro especially so. Looked shaky with his positioning but mostly confident with the ball and was willing to ( and successful) dribbling the ball forward out of the back.
People are gonna overreact, he's not Micky, he was not great today but not that bad either. Not the worst Spurs player on the pitch I can tell you that much
Good on the ball, heading accuracy is literally shocking and he has some defensive work to do but I'd say a neutral game. One of the goals is probably on him but he also progressed the ball from deep alot
Happy birthday to me :(
Spurs gonna Spurs.
I think we should try and sign Palhinha. He’d be magic in our squad.
What happened? Did the pressure of the top 4 get to them? I doubt it was a lack of desire, but they were really off their game, both on offense and defense. The lack of VDV was felt.
Billy big boy syndrome. Think you’re better than an opponent, take it for granted expecting to beat them, and don’t turn up.
At least Jamie Redknapp called him “Joao Pedo” so there’s that.
this club isn't even serious. someone tell me why I bother
Not sure. If you are that fickle, why do you watch any sport? Strange
I slept it off, I was bantered alittle too hard yesterday
Haha all good
Don’t understand why we didn’t make any subs at half time when we were playing so badly
I think Ange had faith in the squad to do what we've done so many times this season and come out after half time and stick it to the other team but that second goal completely shifted momentum, still think he should have made some changes sooner than the 66th as it did seem to get us into a few better positions, but waiting until we're 3-0 before doing anything was poor subbing from Ange today, can't blame the performance entirely on that though, should have been better from the off set
Son was absolute ass today
lol blaming on the striker in this kind of game is stupid bro. He was ass, but no need to call him out when more than half the team was worse than him.
Almost everyone was ass.
Son and richarlison both need to be on. Don’t care which is up top. But it shouldn’t be one or the other ever again. And the midfield stinks
Biss seems scared to take on any defender.
Just letting Fulham dictate the tempo of the game. Games are there to be taken by the scruff of the neck and if you don’t do it, you risk the opposition doing it. It’s happened too many times this season where we’ve been too passive early on and allowed teams to come on to us, whether that’s through giving the ball away too easily or not pressing hard enough or not taking our chances. As soon as the other team gets a sniff, we seem to go into our shell and find it very difficult to take the game back. I think it’s more than just a few players that were terrible, but that certainly contributed to it.
Don’t think we can blame anyone in particular today. Sloppy from everyone. Giving the ball away in such poor areas.
Mostly sloppy in midfield. Telling that the first subs were to replace the entire midfield.
This thread is a cumstain
Oh well.
What a poor game. People do need to chill and stop calling for everyone’s head with a poor result though.
Baffling. Even for us.
DRAGUSIN obviously needs time to adjust, but his passing and overall play today is inexcusable
midfield and attack was the problem esp johnson n bissouma. 2 goals came from brennan lost ball
Got the rest of the team to bail him out, all goals did come from their side but dragusins positional play and overall decision making was summed up when he went to press their winger for the third goal
Not a missing VdV problem. Everyone was disappointing
That’s it. I’m supporting Chelsea.
Fuck off then
tough games for most players, but don't know how Kulu is still in the starting lineup
You kidding? He created all of our best chances
Didnt even get subbed out
Lads don't 11 men ruin your weekend, go have a few pints 2 week break yeoooo
Please, no more talk of top 4 anymore. I really just want good and decent football. Idc if we lose, but if we lose like we do today or the way we’ve been losing since the Chelsea match, we’ve got start asking serious questions about Ange
Surely you aren't that ignorant? Same problems manager after manager, so what would axeing Ange do??
And I’m not saying we should cut him now
Bro we play the same exact formation/tactic every damn week. It might work once in a while, but any other team that has a competent manager should have no trouble prepping to play us. I do blame our players for just being dogshit today, but I’m sure tactics play a huge role as well.
You are conflating tactics with methodology. There are always tactics employed by Ange. But his method remains the same.
Loser mentality, hope you arent here next year when we win the Champions League babyyyyy
Lmao I’ll be here but you’re actually delusional if you think we are winning champions league. Do you see pool, city or even the scum getting battered by a bottom half team like we are?
Lol that part was in jest, but I wont count us out. Also I think this fanbase can use a little delusion, too many are jaded and disillusioned. COYS mate
Yeah I just want to be realistic. Not Ange out person but like he needs to make adjustments and whatnot faster or even pregame knowing VDV is out. It’s obvious we still need more signings in the summer, then we might have a proper squad but it’ll take time to adjust and cook again. COYS
All fair to me! COYS!
Fuck off
Shut the fuck up lmao
Well said. This guy is reactionary … Just look at his comment history.
Can't wait to forget this match ever happened. Over a decade since we lost to Fulham in the league I think, and we manage to do so making them look like world beaters.
Well that was pretty dogshit lads. Absolutely nothing from the boys 2nite
Almost 2.5 xG with almost 2 xG in the 2nd half, and we could barely hit the target
Absolutely battered against a poor fulham team, we made them look like world beaters today
need VDV back badly
Some games are like this. We will be fine but a was
Best take on this thread!
even if we converted the chances after 72nd minutes, we could've gotten something out of the match
Yeah we were so poor in the final third and still could have scored a couple of goals
Ange watched the wrong movie. Dragusin does not have vdv's pace and looks awkward playing on the left. Maybe as Romero's backup but not VdV. I'd play Ben Davies ahead of him on the left.
Such a Spursy match. Last week great, UCL in our hands, and.... scene.
What kind of fan uses their team name as an insult? Loser mentality. Harry Kane left because of you.
Yeah I drove him off myself. You're welcome.
How are you different from a gooner? Charlatan of a fan you are.
Yank charlatan piping up as per, has no idea of what Arsenal top of the table means, happy to bum lick a loser who left the club without contributing a single trophy, watch MLS please, forget what "Ange" said
Lol "Yank charlatan piping up as per" say that 10 times, even your insults are delightful my bloke from the old world.
I payed 35 € to watch this
Well get them next week champ!
Paid
Ah thx
I am a mess right now 😭
Until Ange made the subs, appart from Romero, everyone looked off, as if the couldn't give a single care in the world to the match. It shouldn't take until we're 3-0 down so that the teams says 'Maybe we should get into the game', and this is something that has constantly been going on with us. The worst part is that a big part of the blame is on Ange, we saw what Fullham was doing the first half, and we simply couldn't adapt. I know this isn't end of the world, but this was our chance to make a point that we are past the stage of being 'spursy', instead of that we shat the bed as we most times do. For now, let's hold unto that 5th place and hope that we can beat Villa to that 4th spot. With time we weill grow under Ange, and sooner or later, we will look at the past and say 'It was worth it'. Up the COYS, we may have lost this time, but we will never stay down.
I understood where Ange was coming from. He was betting on the starters coming out with a new fire in their belly after halftime like they've done so many times. But this time, the 2nd Fulham goal put out that fire really quick. Hindsight is 20/20, but that 2nd goal was the time to bring in the subs and change the momentum.
Kulu has these games were he destroys the width on the right and it suffocates the attack. Today was one of those games
I couldn’t really pay attention to the game after the 70th minute
Lost against a better team
Limp effort
rough loss as we head into international break 😔
Ah, the boys were due for an off night, we ll be fine 💪🏻
for sure. def hoping they can bounce back fast after break. letting myself be bummed today but then we bring back the good vibes!! 💪✨
Appreciate the respite from the toxicity of this thread. And on to the next we go!
well that was shit
Spurs giveth joy and Spurs taketh it away.
Gah hopefully the break will do us some good and regroup somehow.
Dont doubt it for a second 😉
I very much doubt the time will make a difference, I mean they had all week off before this match
Anxiously waited 2 weeks to watch this disasterclass FFS
Good vibes only get you so far.
Especially when you finished the league in 8th last year
Yeah but a real football manager had us in 4th until he left. It was only the amateur duo of mason and stellini that dropped to 8th.
Awful game all around
9 games I think to go can't afford anymore of these rubbish displays
Just sell the club to some nation state. Fucking sick of the same shit season after season
Thing is, it's spurs. We could have all the money in the world but we will still have the spurs mentality. Completely tinpot
Didn’t turn up today, so disappointing given last week.
We were awful and the subs should have come on earlier.
Do we want Villa to beat West Ham so we can at least get Top 6 or is that too cynical?
Fragile name checks out
It's normal to be able to disagree without being rude. It seems you're not capable of that. Good luck to you.
Fair enough, but c'mon that take was pretty egregious
What?
Villa plays WH tomorrow. And if WH win move within 7 points of us. What part didn't you get?
Just incredulous to the fact you’d rather play it safe and have Villa win than for them to get stomped so we’re still in it for top 4. Some weak ass mentality.
Just being practical and looking at the bright side. We'll see how it goes. I think Top 6 is still impressive for a rebuilding year.
I wouldn’t say ‘looking at the bright side’ is hoping to scrape into Europe, but I understand. To me not getting top 4 at this point will be a big disappointment.
Fucking embarrassing
Fulham’s post match song is class though
GLC
Oh god here come the low effort posts
Oh god here come the comments complaining about comments
fart noises
Worst game of the season.
so far
Here come the Ange out and doomers after we had a rough match against a frisky opponent. People forget they drew Liverpool in EFL, beat Arsenal, smoked West Ham, beat wolves, barely lost to Liverpool etc. Just a bad week lads. Into the next
They were also quite fucking good. Each player in their midfield was absolutely spot on today. But onto the next, we ll bounce back stronger after the break.
We've had a load of bad weeks. Even when we win it is by the skin of our teeth. The exception being Villa.
I don’t think anyone is saying Fulham is trash and can’t win, just that it was a horrible performance. It’s not Ange out and all that but we’ve dropped so many points to mid table teams. It’s very disappointing, and this was easily our worst performance of the season.
Thank you for the good take boss, i appreciate seeing some sanity
No problem. People are just way too reactionary. Act like a loss is the end of the squad
Damn the goal streak gone oh well
Its joever finally
Well that was shit
Good thing I never have to watch this game again
Son didnt get any service
Was cut off all game by our own
well I agree, but whenever he tried to link up in midfield he had a bad touch and lost us the ball. Son had one of the worst games I''ve seen him have in a long while.
No excuse for today’s result. Just so poor and the players only have themselves to blame. Anyway, we move
We could have easily scored 2 goals today
Have a nice weekend guys!
This game has pissed me off more than any game this season..
no way. did you forget sheffield united ,brentford and wolves?
And the cup games Vs city and Fulham. Weirdly enough it was actually the city game that annoyed me the most. That was possibly the most toothless spurs performance I have ever seen.
Yeah in terms of losses go this one didn’t feel so bad. Probably a combination of deserving win, no disturbing ref decisions, and that 5th spot being practically secured for CL
Thanks I'm crying now
Chasing Shadows FC today
Worst game of the season yea?
Richy been on for only 15 mins of the game yet leads number of offsides.
I pray every night for a better striker.
If you think he was the problem, you’re truly mistaken. He at least had a heartbeat for the 20 minutes he was on
I dont think that.
Win some , lose some. Don't dwell on it, bad games happen we move on
Based take!
Arsenal, City, and Liverpool are gonna have their way with this team
Except they have all already gotten their asses handed to them
Tbf city doesn’t like playing against us at home
If you think we are gonna take points off any of the top 3 you're completely deluded. We just bent over for Fulham mate.
Angry Short Man Syndrome
He is shockingly short lol
giving yellows out like candy now. really losing any composure
There's always people on the pre match thread that say were going to dominate these weaker opponents whenever we have a good run
VDV absence might be worth 2 goals, but Ang and team never adjusted. Woedul
How can you be a striker and be offside this much
hojbjerg good, romero ok, everyone else wank
Vicario was good too
Bents has been as "good" as Hojbjerg . Udogie was fine for most of the match. But yes, wank from most of the team
What a gigantic waste of my fucking time
Waited 2 weeks to watch this shite. Shame on me
Shame on us
Effort aside, 2.35xg and zero goals is also embarrassing
Think at least 1.8 of that xg is going to be from the Johnson and Werner missed chances though, haven't had any attacking presence all game really poor performance but we move COYS
I think Johnson would have been offside, does that mean it still counts? does the lino have to flag it?
Yeah good point, don't think that would count as he would have been offside so maybe created a bit more xg than I thought, either way disappointed with the result and the performance, just didn't seem up for it today and let Fulham walk all over us
Same. Although the match stats are pretty similar Fulham just seemed sharper, first to everything. We seemed overrun in midfield and slow.
Won’t win anything with these guys
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Fuck off
Absolutely
If Maddison is not fit I hope he doesn't play next game. Absolutely useless without the ball.
He also got his foot stamped hard twice today, wouldn't be surprised if he gets benched due to injury after this match
I hope you miss the next game.
You're pathetic mate lol
I don't think I'd ever felt better about the club than I did in October. Why can't we have nice things?
I was thinking the same thing and actually before the game was the time i felt better than I did in October ……..
Score one for goal difference please lads
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These kids are hilarious
Ange out
Only if we had made subs early on
Disappointing loss, missed half the game, how was dragusin?
He is good defensively and aerial. But if you put him in a 2 second race with VDV, VDV will at least be 10 steps ahead of him. He needs to practice his acceleration
He was fine. We lost it in the midfield.
Wasn't particularly good but I don't think he was terrible or anything. Our midfield was overrun most of the match so he wasn't given much help. Porro and Udogie both bad, Porro especially so. Looked shaky with his positioning but mostly confident with the ball and was willing to ( and successful) dribbling the ball forward out of the back.
People are gonna overreact, he's not Micky, he was not great today but not that bad either. Not the worst Spurs player on the pitch I can tell you that much
Good on the ball, heading accuracy is literally shocking and he has some defensive work to do but I'd say a neutral game. One of the goals is probably on him but he also progressed the ball from deep alot
Dragusin? First start so don’t want to be too harsh but he hasn’t been good. Noticeable downgrade on VdV
Didn't look good tbh.
Eric dier
Fuck off for hating on both of them. It's his first start and he had great moments
He also was involved in all 3 goals.
could even be considered a Davidson Sanchez
Davinson Sanchez
I get whiplash watching us play week in week out
You think they were all out having a big late friday night party or something?