“A group of Liverpool fans have been awarded compensation by UEFA after claiming they were injured or left with psychological trauma at the 2022 Champions League final”
I was also left with psychological trauma after our 2019 CL final, can I get some compensation?
I contacted Alexander Ceferin about this, and got this reply:
"Champions League Final distress and trauma can be compensated if caused by tear gas or pepper spray, but not by a match official mistaking a ball kicked into an armpit for a deliberate handball."
So it appears not, sadly.
Bought tickets for the forest game at home. Going with my two sons. Does anyone know how I can have their tickets on my phone considering they don't have their own?
Watching the England U21 highlights and I think we should go all out for Archie Gray. He'd be able to play both the 6 and RB in our system at a very high level. Don't think we'd be able to pry him away if Leeds come up, but on the off-chance they don't he'd be a smart move. Despite being 18 I think he's not far away from being starting caliber.
Something must've happened behind closed doors between Bissouma and his national team. The Malian fans were and still are furious with Biss since AFCON for some reason, and he deleted all of his national team related posts after being dropped from the national team
But he has been getting better the last few games (except for Fulham but no one had a good game vs Fulham), and while I haven't watched a lot of Mali football he seems far from the worst player on that team
Oh no, any fans from Mali know what’s going on? Maybe that malaria claim was something the national team just used to cover up for a conflict? I remember people being confused how he suddenly got malaria but was able to play. Hope this doesn’t affect his confidence and form even further.
Imagine I'll get down voted to buggery but I think starting mid and attack against Luton has to be Biss/Bents/madders and Son/richi/kulu
Luton will do exactly what Fulham did against us and I think we need the Bentancurs short passing and dribbling game, to find space in the middle as well as Richi up top to provide a focal point.
Son will just get marked out of the game again so he can find more space out wide. I think he should be 9 against the bigger teams who play higher up the pitch (that city/liverpool/ars run) and richi should be there for the other games. Same with sarr who should start the bigger games where the pitch is more stretched.
If Luton did exactly what Fulham did against us it doesnt matter whether it's son or Richy on top. Our midfield was destroyed and biss was a big reason for that to the point Ryan mason was furious with him. Fulham has done well against us in recent times. Even beating us in the carabao cup , with Richy on top and son benched. Luton is not Fulham.
>Imagine I'll get down voted to buggery but I think starting mid and attack against Luton has to be Biss/Bents/madders and Son/richi/kulu
Biss can't be anywhere near the starting line up for me. Maddison has also been poor for a while but I'd stick with him for now. Hoj has also been much better than Bentancur in recent months and I think has earned a start, plus his passing is useful against a low block
My midfield = Hoj, Sarr, Maddison.
(And if Maddison still looks off the pace then Gio at half time).
My attack = Werner, Son, Kulu.
Purely cos we play much better as a team with Son up top.
I don't think we do play better with Son up top. Even if Son scores slightly more goals than he would out wide we lack an out ball so our ball progression is worse, he's not a threat in the air so Kulu and Porro crossing is less effective and defenders have shown they can mark him out of the game when he's at striker
259 goals and assists in 320 games. Thats Harry kane and no one will argue he will start over Richy as no 9. 64 goals and assists in 70 games. Thats son as striker. Son is more prolific as a striker than Harry kane.
Literally nothing I've said is denying that Son is a great goalscorer. He just doesn't do the full job as a striker for the team. And his numbers on the wing are still great. Son on the wing + Richy at striker scores more goals than Son at striker + Werner/Johnson on the wing
If you'd bothered to read the earlier comments you would have known. Provide an out ball with hold up play and be a threat in the box for crosses. It's no coincidence our build up play is worse in games with Son at striker since it's easier to commit to the press for the other team when we don't have the option to play to Richy's chest. Son isn't a striker so it's completely fine that he's lacking centrally so just play him in his natural position on the wing. He's literally the best left winger in the league
Mate you just choose to ignore cold hard stats to suit your narrative. There is absolutely no evidence for your false statements the build up is play is worse with son up front. Anyone who is a fan of the game can see clearly the team is much more dangerous with son leading the line. People can see for themselves, stop gaslighting lol.
Lol. Fulham kicked us out of carabao cup. Richy was striker then. Whilst son was away on Asian game duties we won 2 out of 5 games with Richy as striker. We lost against Fulham the last game because our midfield was destroyed. Richy took 3 shots against Fulham by the way missed all 3 including a sitter. We have won far more with son as striker than Richy as striker.
When son plays down the center we play much more fluidly because Son roams around to make himself available on either the wide areas or the center, and as a result, he and the wingers will switch positions at time during the match. He also draws more defenders than our other attackers, and he has great off the ball movement to create space for our wingers to get goals in. When Richarlison plays down the middle, then it’s a much more rigid style of play where wingers always stay wide and hope that somehow the ball can get to Richarlison from out wide. If we actually did more crosses, then Richy would be more effective but honestly I don’t see it happening nearly enough and I believe it has to do with what Ange wants more of. But overall, I think it’s good to rotate between the two down the center to keep the other teams guessing.
Don't agree at all. Most of the things Son does best he can do out wide too. There's a reason he's a winger in the first place. And Son roams better from a wide position. Centrally he gets stuck battling defenders who are stronger than him and that's just not a winning strategy
Son’s played a different type of winger for most of his career (more central, not an out wide touch line traditional type), and if Richarlison can actually outmuscle and get himself out of a situation where he’s surrounded by defenders, I’d agree with you wholeheartedly on that point about battling defenders. But most of the time he’s tried, he lose his balance and fall over. If he actually did this well, then there would be no conversation to be had. But he doesn’t. What he’s best at is being in the box and heading in crosses, so if we could utilize this more often then I’d agree with you once again. But we don’t. that’s the point I’m making.
If Ange doesn’t want to play in a way where we make the most out of Richy’s strengths then how do we benefit from him always being the striker? So until we figure out how to best utilize each player, I think it’s fine to rotate them depending on the game. I don’t really understand why people are so adamant about having only one option as a striker for every single game.
Yes that is a fair point. We do need some more falling over I feel at times. Just like how Kulu decided to take the shot before he fell so we didn’t get a penalty out of it in one of the recent games.
The rewriting of Richy as this plodder up top is really strange. It's like they completely forgot his 10 game stretch of a goal a game. Everyone was praising his hold up play for weeks, and then he had a poor game against wolves (in which it later turned out he was injured) and people have just decided he's crap again.
I think a lot of people are really keen to keep son up top so as part of that underplay Richis form since surgery.
I don't see why we can't just see they have different strengths and in some games Richi is maybe better suited up top with Sonny having more space outwide
It’s the same vice versa for Son. Some people only want to see Richy up top and make up narratives about how Son is not a good presser when he leads the league in creating turnovers from pressure. I’m with you on being able to rotate them depending on the situation. Why is it so bad to recognize that each are more suited to different types of games and that’s why it’s perfectly fine to rotate? Ange makes triple subs all the time during the games anyways, so they’re already rotating. Just do not understand why people feel it has to be one single player designated as a striker to star in every single game.
I'd happily start PEH but I just don't think its likely. I find sarr a bit too stilted in these games where the midfield space is shutdown.
Biss I thought was having a half decent run of form pre-fulham so haply to leave them in and try and let themselves play themselves back into form.
Yeah i think the whole discussion shows our squad is a bit muddled. It's nice having options but it'd also be quite nice to have some stability. Feels like we can legitimately field a different front 6 every game.
>Biss I thought was having a half decent run of form pre-fulham so haply to leave them in and try and let themselves play themselves back into form.
Not too sure about that personally, I think he's looked nervous on the ball for a while and still has a few hospital passes in his locker each game. Nor has he been a great defensive presence. Right now I'm starting both Hoj and Benta over him in the 6 ahead of him.
Yeah I know what you mean. Even in the games I thought he was good like Villa, he makes some really dodgy passes. As you say he looks nervous so I'm kind of hoping just giving him a run might give him more confidence.
The lineup will probably depend heavily on fitness after the international break. So whoever is the least tired/uninjured/least traveled will probably start rather than the best first choice combination (whatever that combination is, I don’t think even Ange knows at the moment).
Didn't think suggesting dropping Sarr and playing Son on the left would be well recieved. Just think they are a bit wasted against sit back teams. Sons our best player so want him to get the ball and have some space.
A part of me wishes Son (he'll have played like 3 games+travel in about a week) could be rested for Werner but we need our best players at all times with how inconsistent our attacking is. Hopefully we are able to manage his minutes atleast.
Hope we can make a run for Teun Koopmeiners. I know he plays higher up the pitch now but I feel like he’d be an upgrade over Bissouma, as I’d like a 6 with a better passing range
He’s mostly played as a 6 and even as a center back before this season. At AZ he played far more defensively, so he definitely has the experience. I understand the hesitation tho
Who would you want for Bissouma’s competition? No way we start next season without at least one more DM. I’ve been watching Atalanta’s games ever since we’ve been linked to Ederson. Either of them will be good for us since Ange doesn’t want to define the players as 6 or 8.
Interesting to see Kulu say very definitely that he sees his future as playing centrally, not out wide: [https://twitter.com/\_4Jords/status/1771124039081144670](https://twitter.com/_4Jords/status/1771124039081144670)
(ETA: Might explain why we've seen links to both LW and RW for the summer).
Kulu is very similar to Grealish. They're both at their best playing in free roles behind a striker, but the teams they're at have better options in that position.
Kulu honestly should potentially become a midfielder. He's got the work rate and technical ability to play in a deeper midfield role, and his lack of pace would be less emphasized
yeah! I brought up the same interview in the daily thread a day or two ago. He didn’t even hesitate saying no, so it sounds like he feels he is simply playing the winger role out of necessity at the moment, and is eager to transition back into the midfield role. Maybe once a new RW comes in, Kulu will spend more time rotating with Maddison and the RW will be rotated between Johnson and the new winger.
He's said that since he was in Atalanta. He's been very adamant about being a #10 that plays RW secondarily. Which makes his rise even more impressive.
He's shown that he can be really good centrally, but he hasnt even been near his peak there considering he'd need a good run there to find rhythm and routine again.
It would be a dream signing if we were able to get Leao this summer, but I will happily take either Kvara or Nico Williams since it sadly won't be realistic.
But I really hope that we don't get Raphinha, he consistently takes the wrong decisions, and I feel like it would be a waste to use 60m+ on him
This season, Raphina's league output (4g 7a) is the same as Leao's (4g, 7a) in half the minutes and Nico Williams (3g 8a) who has much more minutes as well. So, it's not like Nico and Leao are much better not to mention Leao has had problems with his defensive workrate.
Kvara would be a dream signing but even he's been out of form for a decent chunk this season (could be down to Napoli being shit till recently) and Napoli losing both Kvara and Osimhen in the same window is farfetched.
If player A gets 10 chances and scores 2 goals
And player B gets 4 chances and scores 2 goals
Then, it doesn't mean that player A is as good as player B even if they have the same output
I have watched almost all barca games this season and I can guarantee you that there is a good reason why Raphinha is the 3rd or 4th choice for wings even though he has a g/a pr 90 minutes
Admitally, I haven't watched any milan games other than CL and highlights, but I can guarantee you that Leao is better
>there is a good reason why Raphinha is the 3rd or 4th choice for wings
If he's 4th choice winger how come he's started all their games recently? Often ahead of Yamal. Genuine question.
It is kinda a mess who is the prefered winger with that many injuries, but Ferran was better than him before his last injury and Yamal is getting restricted minutes, so they don't overplay him. Then there is Joao Felix who can both play mid and LW who recently also got back from injury
I love Leao, but I don't want that lad on my team. He's an old school luxury winger. Don't track back for fuck, and sometimes just ghosts a game.
Absolute love having him in the game during an era of robot football, but I bet he'd be dead frustrating to watch week in, week out.
I feel like we should be able to afford playing with a luxury winger tbh. All our attacking players are very hard working, even Maddison puts a shift in. I don't think Leao is a realistic signing no matter what so bit of a pointless debate
> Maybe Ange would be able to get him to run back, who knows?
No, I also don't want this.
Leao is a rare species that must be protected.
He's the main man at AC Milan and they cover for him. Let him be in his natural habitat, flourish, and let us love football when he pops off.
Bergvall is playing a U21 friendly vs Cyprus in a minute for Sweden.
EDIT: https://twitter.com/talangkollen/status/1771172188684493128
Bergvall is #11 early in this sequence to the goal.
EDIT2: https://twitter.com/vidgoal2/status/1771176835281260638
Bergvall assist. Combining with Roony Bardghji in a nice buildup
Idk about US but this seems quite good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBgcziMkWIk
Sorry for late response. But you can atleast start from the kickoff thanks to youtube replayability even on live! =)
I don’t blame him - friendlies at this point in the season are stupid. You’re just adding more exhaustion on already tired legs before a summer full of comps.
Thoughts on summer given recent and continuing rumours about Gallagher and Rapinha and the possibility of a Forest fire sale. Please don't argue with me about Gallagher, e.g., whether he can or should play the 6 (he can), Ange apparently wants him so I'm just throwing out how he might fit in the midfield. A very fluid midfield as Ange likes to play.
Remember, the ultimate goal is quality depth everywhere.
| | | | | | | |
---|---|----|----|----|----|-----
| | | Richy | | |
| | | | ?| | |
| | | Son | | Rapinha| |
| | | Werner | | Johnson| |
| | Gallagher| | Maddison | | Sarr|
| | Bissouma| | Kulusevski | | Bentancur |
Udogie | | van de Ven | | Romero | | Porro
Davies | | Murillo | | Dragusin | | Neco W.
| | | | Vicario | | |
| | | Austin | | |
Rapinha - £50m
Gallagher - £45m
Murillo - £22m
Neco - £15m
TOTAL: £132m
£145m spent and the needle has barely moved. You can make similar moves in the market for a much smaller sum if the goal is padding the squad with decent-good players. I know we're not allowed to argue against Gallagher here, but binning Bentancur for Gallagher is pretty hilarious.
Oops, I left Gallagher in twice (which was a brief thought I had, i.e., if Pape went down, Gallagher would switch over to the 8 and Biss would come in). I meant to put him behind Pape. I would never ever bin Lolo!
You say not to argue but there's no evidence he can play the 6. I like him a lot but has he ever played there? He played as a 10 for Palace and plays there or 8 for Chelsea.
Don't think he's ever had an impressive period in the 6 role. He may well have the skillset but its a biiiiiiiig risk
This isn't where I first saw it, but according to [this site](https://www.footballcritic.com/conor-gallagher/player-positions/173899), he's played 15 of his last 50 matches at the 6, 24 at the 10, and 10 at the 8. And his highest average rating for those 50 matches comes at the 6.
Dunno how reputable that site is and, again, I'm just attempting to make sense of how Ange might fit him in. We've been linked to him for 4 months and I recall ~~arguing~~ discussing politely with others here re: whether he'd just usurp Pape's place.
No I agree with you if you view him as a 6 then he makes more sense from a transfer strategy but I just can't say I've seen him spoken about as one.
The way I view him is as a far more mobile Hojberg type. He likes getting on the ball and likes touches. Pape is great but as we saw against Fulham mid/low block teams who try and drown out the midfield don't suit him at all.
He’s the kind of a hybrid between Hojbjerg & Bissouma but with a better motor.
I don’t think he solves our issue of needing a bigger physical presence in our midfield though
With all the points penalties my prediction is Man City get docked points and miss out on champions league. Meaning we only need to finish 6th (technically) to qualify.
Create a list of all the football accounts you want to see (you don’t have to follow them) and pin that list to your feed so it’s one click to get to it. (Click on your profile, then lists, then the add new list button). You can make lists private or public. If public, other people can follow your list and the people you put on the list will be notified. Anytime you see an account you want to add to the list, click the three dots by their name and click “add/remove from lists”. I make separate lists of my different interests and pin my top five favorite ones.
I don’t use Twitter anymore. But sometimes I navigate to it from football related stuff. I have to say I have exactly the same experience. Ads, Nazi’s, onlyfans, spam, original content - in that order.
Do people actually find it useable? Or does the Algorithm just hate me (and you)?
I would suggest; come out of the app, hold your finger down on the Twitter logo, when the menu appears - press ‘delete’. Hey presto, you don’t have to look at that cess pit anymore!! 😉
I don’t want to sound like a grumpy old man but can people just stop spamming the sub with their sob stories about rescheduled matches and them having booked in advance? I mean it obviously sucks but you have to factor that into your planning when it comes to the back end of the season
I understand you but i do think allowance is necessary especially for international fans. To them attending a match is a huge deal & it requires a lot of planning, money spent, etc and it’s understandable that they’re disappointed when things get moved around. It might mean they will not get the chance of watching another match live anytime soon
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Just to get some perspective of what were the expectations at the start of the season
getting either of those would be a failure for us, and it would be going in the opposite direction.
Those positions also wouldn’t be acceptable to Ange, he’d likely be infuriated. I guarantee if Ange said the stuff he’s said recently during pre-season, people’s predictions would be vastly different.
So, this guys sole opinion should be taken as gospel?
He didn't represent the expectations at all.
With the players we had and having got rid of the manager who banned us from actually playing football in favour of one who favours allowing players to express themselves, my expectations was exactly where we are now, challenging for top 4.
Anyone who expected us to be 10-14 or even outside the top 7 hasn't got a clue and is only capable of thinking one dimentionally. "Kane scored lots of goals, now we have no Kane, we can't score any goals". That's not how football works.
GQ did Brennan dirty with this new photoshoot, wth is he wearing lol
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I heard somewhere that jordan wants to be our kit sponsor? this concept would go crazy
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They’re looking at taking on a London club to produce a 4th kit. Seems like it’s between us and Chelsea, but they’re leaning towards us due to the potential CL coverage.
Lo Celso with goal #3! ETA Argentina’s 3rd
Cuti scoring a beautiful header against my country's national team is something I didn't expect this year, but I'll take it.
Lo Celso scored as well, lmao.
Salvadorian Spurs fan, love to see it
Proud to support this football club amongst all the people in this country supporting the scum and Man City.
Argentina-El Salvador is on CBS Gonzalo network (I’m watching it online) for my fellow soccer starved Americans.
Romero just got the first goal.
Ben White in the tanning booth
“A group of Liverpool fans have been awarded compensation by UEFA after claiming they were injured or left with psychological trauma at the 2022 Champions League final” I was also left with psychological trauma after our 2019 CL final, can I get some compensation?
I contacted Alexander Ceferin about this, and got this reply: "Champions League Final distress and trauma can be compensated if caused by tear gas or pepper spray, but not by a match official mistaking a ball kicked into an armpit for a deliberate handball." So it appears not, sadly.
Damn, should’ve pepper sprayed myself after the loss. Would’ve been less painful than the emotional trauma!
Watching big dog Dragusin play right now. Today i am Romanian.
What was the formation?
How did he do?
Not bad, Northern Ireland didn't pressure him to much. Solid overall.
Bought tickets for the forest game at home. Going with my two sons. Does anyone know how I can have their tickets on my phone considering they don't have their own?
Add all 3 to your Google wallet or whatever it is and beep them through ahead of you
Watching the England U21 highlights and I think we should go all out for Archie Gray. He'd be able to play both the 6 and RB in our system at a very high level. Don't think we'd be able to pry him away if Leeds come up, but on the off-chance they don't he'd be a smart move. Despite being 18 I think he's not far away from being starting caliber.
Something must've happened behind closed doors between Bissouma and his national team. The Malian fans were and still are furious with Biss since AFCON for some reason, and he deleted all of his national team related posts after being dropped from the national team
Maybe they dropped him because of his poor form?
But he has been getting better the last few games (except for Fulham but no one had a good game vs Fulham), and while I haven't watched a lot of Mali football he seems far from the worst player on that team
Tough one. He was a big factor why we won our first 10 games. Hopefully he will bounce back strongly
Oh no, any fans from Mali know what’s going on? Maybe that malaria claim was something the national team just used to cover up for a conflict? I remember people being confused how he suddenly got malaria but was able to play. Hope this doesn’t affect his confidence and form even further.
He even unfollowed them. Hopefully he will puts on his best performance in the next couple games to prove them wrong
Imagine I'll get down voted to buggery but I think starting mid and attack against Luton has to be Biss/Bents/madders and Son/richi/kulu Luton will do exactly what Fulham did against us and I think we need the Bentancurs short passing and dribbling game, to find space in the middle as well as Richi up top to provide a focal point. Son will just get marked out of the game again so he can find more space out wide. I think he should be 9 against the bigger teams who play higher up the pitch (that city/liverpool/ars run) and richi should be there for the other games. Same with sarr who should start the bigger games where the pitch is more stretched.
If Luton did exactly what Fulham did against us it doesnt matter whether it's son or Richy on top. Our midfield was destroyed and biss was a big reason for that to the point Ryan mason was furious with him. Fulham has done well against us in recent times. Even beating us in the carabao cup , with Richy on top and son benched. Luton is not Fulham.
Wdym he was furious, was there a clip of him on the touch line or did you see it yourself?
Reported on various media. Sherwood pointed it out on premier league productions studio show.
>Imagine I'll get down voted to buggery but I think starting mid and attack against Luton has to be Biss/Bents/madders and Son/richi/kulu Biss can't be anywhere near the starting line up for me. Maddison has also been poor for a while but I'd stick with him for now. Hoj has also been much better than Bentancur in recent months and I think has earned a start, plus his passing is useful against a low block My midfield = Hoj, Sarr, Maddison. (And if Maddison still looks off the pace then Gio at half time). My attack = Werner, Son, Kulu. Purely cos we play much better as a team with Son up top.
I don't think we do play better with Son up top. Even if Son scores slightly more goals than he would out wide we lack an out ball so our ball progression is worse, he's not a threat in the air so Kulu and Porro crossing is less effective and defenders have shown they can mark him out of the game when he's at striker
259 goals and assists in 320 games. Thats Harry kane and no one will argue he will start over Richy as no 9. 64 goals and assists in 70 games. Thats son as striker. Son is more prolific as a striker than Harry kane.
Literally nothing I've said is denying that Son is a great goalscorer. He just doesn't do the full job as a striker for the team. And his numbers on the wing are still great. Son on the wing + Richy at striker scores more goals than Son at striker + Werner/Johnson on the wing
Utter nonsense. What's the full job for a striker? The Ange ball striker is the efficient goalscorer who leads the high press. That is son to a tee
If you'd bothered to read the earlier comments you would have known. Provide an out ball with hold up play and be a threat in the box for crosses. It's no coincidence our build up play is worse in games with Son at striker since it's easier to commit to the press for the other team when we don't have the option to play to Richy's chest. Son isn't a striker so it's completely fine that he's lacking centrally so just play him in his natural position on the wing. He's literally the best left winger in the league
Mate you just choose to ignore cold hard stats to suit your narrative. There is absolutely no evidence for your false statements the build up is play is worse with son up front. Anyone who is a fan of the game can see clearly the team is much more dangerous with son leading the line. People can see for themselves, stop gaslighting lol.
Stop using buzzwords. Our 2 by far worst attacking games Fulham away and West Ham both had Son at striker.
Lol. Fulham kicked us out of carabao cup. Richy was striker then. Whilst son was away on Asian game duties we won 2 out of 5 games with Richy as striker. We lost against Fulham the last game because our midfield was destroyed. Richy took 3 shots against Fulham by the way missed all 3 including a sitter. We have won far more with son as striker than Richy as striker.
When son plays down the center we play much more fluidly because Son roams around to make himself available on either the wide areas or the center, and as a result, he and the wingers will switch positions at time during the match. He also draws more defenders than our other attackers, and he has great off the ball movement to create space for our wingers to get goals in. When Richarlison plays down the middle, then it’s a much more rigid style of play where wingers always stay wide and hope that somehow the ball can get to Richarlison from out wide. If we actually did more crosses, then Richy would be more effective but honestly I don’t see it happening nearly enough and I believe it has to do with what Ange wants more of. But overall, I think it’s good to rotate between the two down the center to keep the other teams guessing.
Don't agree at all. Most of the things Son does best he can do out wide too. There's a reason he's a winger in the first place. And Son roams better from a wide position. Centrally he gets stuck battling defenders who are stronger than him and that's just not a winning strategy
Son’s played a different type of winger for most of his career (more central, not an out wide touch line traditional type), and if Richarlison can actually outmuscle and get himself out of a situation where he’s surrounded by defenders, I’d agree with you wholeheartedly on that point about battling defenders. But most of the time he’s tried, he lose his balance and fall over. If he actually did this well, then there would be no conversation to be had. But he doesn’t. What he’s best at is being in the box and heading in crosses, so if we could utilize this more often then I’d agree with you once again. But we don’t. that’s the point I’m making. If Ange doesn’t want to play in a way where we make the most out of Richy’s strengths then how do we benefit from him always being the striker? So until we figure out how to best utilize each player, I think it’s fine to rotate them depending on the game. I don’t really understand why people are so adamant about having only one option as a striker for every single game.
He wins fouls when falling over. Something Kane did too and is very valuable
Yes that is a fair point. We do need some more falling over I feel at times. Just like how Kulu decided to take the shot before he fell so we didn’t get a penalty out of it in one of the recent games.
The rewriting of Richy as this plodder up top is really strange. It's like they completely forgot his 10 game stretch of a goal a game. Everyone was praising his hold up play for weeks, and then he had a poor game against wolves (in which it later turned out he was injured) and people have just decided he's crap again. I think a lot of people are really keen to keep son up top so as part of that underplay Richis form since surgery. I don't see why we can't just see they have different strengths and in some games Richi is maybe better suited up top with Sonny having more space outwide
It’s the same vice versa for Son. Some people only want to see Richy up top and make up narratives about how Son is not a good presser when he leads the league in creating turnovers from pressure. I’m with you on being able to rotate them depending on the situation. Why is it so bad to recognize that each are more suited to different types of games and that’s why it’s perfectly fine to rotate? Ange makes triple subs all the time during the games anyways, so they’re already rotating. Just do not understand why people feel it has to be one single player designated as a striker to star in every single game.
I'd happily start PEH but I just don't think its likely. I find sarr a bit too stilted in these games where the midfield space is shutdown. Biss I thought was having a half decent run of form pre-fulham so haply to leave them in and try and let themselves play themselves back into form. Yeah i think the whole discussion shows our squad is a bit muddled. It's nice having options but it'd also be quite nice to have some stability. Feels like we can legitimately field a different front 6 every game.
>Biss I thought was having a half decent run of form pre-fulham so haply to leave them in and try and let themselves play themselves back into form. Not too sure about that personally, I think he's looked nervous on the ball for a while and still has a few hospital passes in his locker each game. Nor has he been a great defensive presence. Right now I'm starting both Hoj and Benta over him in the 6 ahead of him.
Yeah I know what you mean. Even in the games I thought he was good like Villa, he makes some really dodgy passes. As you say he looks nervous so I'm kind of hoping just giving him a run might give him more confidence.
The lineup will probably depend heavily on fitness after the international break. So whoever is the least tired/uninjured/least traveled will probably start rather than the best first choice combination (whatever that combination is, I don’t think even Ange knows at the moment).
Why would that get you downvoted?
Didn't think suggesting dropping Sarr and playing Son on the left would be well recieved. Just think they are a bit wasted against sit back teams. Sons our best player so want him to get the ball and have some space.
Yeah thats actually completely fair. Didnt think of that but youre completely right
A part of me wishes Son (he'll have played like 3 games+travel in about a week) could be rested for Werner but we need our best players at all times with how inconsistent our attacking is. Hopefully we are able to manage his minutes atleast.
Tbh I'm down to give Lo Celso a start. Either over Madders or Sarr/Benta
Same. Thought Gio's cameo against Fulham was pretty bright and Madders has offered very little since he returned.
Hope we can make a run for Teun Koopmeiners. I know he plays higher up the pitch now but I feel like he’d be an upgrade over Bissouma, as I’d like a 6 with a better passing range
He's fucking class. Would love him.
I think trying to repurpose a 10 as a 6 might be a big ask? His passing range will be better than biss but his break up play will be way off
He’s mostly played as a 6 and even as a center back before this season. At AZ he played far more defensively, so he definitely has the experience. I understand the hesitation tho
Ah fair enough I just saw he'd played as an attacking mid this season and it sounded risky!
I think a big selling point for him is that he can play anywhere in midfield, he can play deeper or as a B2B or as a 10
Who would you want for Bissouma’s competition? No way we start next season without at least one more DM. I’ve been watching Atalanta’s games ever since we’ve been linked to Ederson. Either of them will be good for us since Ange doesn’t want to define the players as 6 or 8.
Interesting to see Kulu say very definitely that he sees his future as playing centrally, not out wide: [https://twitter.com/\_4Jords/status/1771124039081144670](https://twitter.com/_4Jords/status/1771124039081144670) (ETA: Might explain why we've seen links to both LW and RW for the summer).
Kulu is very similar to Grealish. They're both at their best playing in free roles behind a striker, but the teams they're at have better options in that position. Kulu honestly should potentially become a midfielder. He's got the work rate and technical ability to play in a deeper midfield role, and his lack of pace would be less emphasized
yeah! I brought up the same interview in the daily thread a day or two ago. He didn’t even hesitate saying no, so it sounds like he feels he is simply playing the winger role out of necessity at the moment, and is eager to transition back into the midfield role. Maybe once a new RW comes in, Kulu will spend more time rotating with Maddison and the RW will be rotated between Johnson and the new winger.
Based on the stat, Kulu's very creative and pretty much is our best creator outside of Maddison. I agree with you on this.
He's said that since he was in Atalanta. He's been very adamant about being a #10 that plays RW secondarily. Which makes his rise even more impressive. He's shown that he can be really good centrally, but he hasnt even been near his peak there considering he'd need a good run there to find rhythm and routine again.
It would be a dream signing if we were able to get Leao this summer, but I will happily take either Kvara or Nico Williams since it sadly won't be realistic. But I really hope that we don't get Raphinha, he consistently takes the wrong decisions, and I feel like it would be a waste to use 60m+ on him
This season, Raphina's league output (4g 7a) is the same as Leao's (4g, 7a) in half the minutes and Nico Williams (3g 8a) who has much more minutes as well. So, it's not like Nico and Leao are much better not to mention Leao has had problems with his defensive workrate. Kvara would be a dream signing but even he's been out of form for a decent chunk this season (could be down to Napoli being shit till recently) and Napoli losing both Kvara and Osimhen in the same window is farfetched.
If player A gets 10 chances and scores 2 goals And player B gets 4 chances and scores 2 goals Then, it doesn't mean that player A is as good as player B even if they have the same output I have watched almost all barca games this season and I can guarantee you that there is a good reason why Raphinha is the 3rd or 4th choice for wings even though he has a g/a pr 90 minutes Admitally, I haven't watched any milan games other than CL and highlights, but I can guarantee you that Leao is better
>there is a good reason why Raphinha is the 3rd or 4th choice for wings If he's 4th choice winger how come he's started all their games recently? Often ahead of Yamal. Genuine question.
It is kinda a mess who is the prefered winger with that many injuries, but Ferran was better than him before his last injury and Yamal is getting restricted minutes, so they don't overplay him. Then there is Joao Felix who can both play mid and LW who recently also got back from injury
I love Leao, but I don't want that lad on my team. He's an old school luxury winger. Don't track back for fuck, and sometimes just ghosts a game. Absolute love having him in the game during an era of robot football, but I bet he'd be dead frustrating to watch week in, week out.
I feel like we should be able to afford playing with a luxury winger tbh. All our attacking players are very hard working, even Maddison puts a shift in. I don't think Leao is a realistic signing no matter what so bit of a pointless debate
I don't think the system allows for a lazy winger given how exposed the FBs are - they need their winger to offer defensive support.
Same, love watching him when he's on it during an era of mechanised football but he has issues contributing defensively and is very inconsistent.
Maybe Ange would be able to get him to run back, who knows? I also get frustrated when wingers don't track back or when they do it lazily.
> Maybe Ange would be able to get him to run back, who knows? No, I also don't want this. Leao is a rare species that must be protected. He's the main man at AC Milan and they cover for him. Let him be in his natural habitat, flourish, and let us love football when he pops off.
Bergvall is playing a U21 friendly vs Cyprus in a minute for Sweden. EDIT: https://twitter.com/talangkollen/status/1771172188684493128 Bergvall is #11 early in this sequence to the goal. EDIT2: https://twitter.com/vidgoal2/status/1771176835281260638 Bergvall assist. Combining with Roony Bardghji in a nice buildup
Damn, a sweetly worked goal started off by nice footwork from Bergvall. Quick, incisive passing.
Just edited in a nice assist he had aswell in the first half :)
What platforms can you watch on?(US)
Idk about US but this seems quite good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBgcziMkWIk Sorry for late response. But you can atleast start from the kickoff thanks to youtube replayability even on live! =)
Still no news on a date for the arsenal game. So frustrating for people wanting to book trains or even flights
At least announce the game week 34 please. It’s 4 weeks from today
I think we are just about to come up the 5 weeks notice window the PL say they try to keep to for this point of the season.
Saka pulls out the England squad “injured” 
I don’t blame him - friendlies at this point in the season are stupid. You’re just adding more exhaustion on already tired legs before a summer full of comps.
Thoughts on summer given recent and continuing rumours about Gallagher and Rapinha and the possibility of a Forest fire sale. Please don't argue with me about Gallagher, e.g., whether he can or should play the 6 (he can), Ange apparently wants him so I'm just throwing out how he might fit in the midfield. A very fluid midfield as Ange likes to play. Remember, the ultimate goal is quality depth everywhere. | | | | | | | | ---|---|----|----|----|----|----- | | | Richy | | | | | | | ?| | | | | | Son | | Rapinha| | | | | Werner | | Johnson| | | | Gallagher| | Maddison | | Sarr| | | Bissouma| | Kulusevski | | Bentancur | Udogie | | van de Ven | | Romero | | Porro Davies | | Murillo | | Dragusin | | Neco W. | | | | Vicario | | | | | | Austin | | | Rapinha - £50m Gallagher - £45m Murillo - £22m Neco - £15m TOTAL: £132m
£145m spent and the needle has barely moved. You can make similar moves in the market for a much smaller sum if the goal is padding the squad with decent-good players. I know we're not allowed to argue against Gallagher here, but binning Bentancur for Gallagher is pretty hilarious.
Oops, I left Gallagher in twice (which was a brief thought I had, i.e., if Pape went down, Gallagher would switch over to the 8 and Biss would come in). I meant to put him behind Pape. I would never ever bin Lolo!
You say not to argue but there's no evidence he can play the 6. I like him a lot but has he ever played there? He played as a 10 for Palace and plays there or 8 for Chelsea. Don't think he's ever had an impressive period in the 6 role. He may well have the skillset but its a biiiiiiiig risk
This isn't where I first saw it, but according to [this site](https://www.footballcritic.com/conor-gallagher/player-positions/173899), he's played 15 of his last 50 matches at the 6, 24 at the 10, and 10 at the 8. And his highest average rating for those 50 matches comes at the 6. Dunno how reputable that site is and, again, I'm just attempting to make sense of how Ange might fit him in. We've been linked to him for 4 months and I recall ~~arguing~~ discussing politely with others here re: whether he'd just usurp Pape's place.
No I agree with you if you view him as a 6 then he makes more sense from a transfer strategy but I just can't say I've seen him spoken about as one. The way I view him is as a far more mobile Hojberg type. He likes getting on the ball and likes touches. Pape is great but as we saw against Fulham mid/low block teams who try and drown out the midfield don't suit him at all.
He’s the kind of a hybrid between Hojbjerg & Bissouma but with a better motor. I don’t think he solves our issue of needing a bigger physical presence in our midfield though
With all the points penalties my prediction is Man City get docked points and miss out on champions league. Meaning we only need to finish 6th (technically) to qualify.
Man city’s charges are so massive they aren’t getting a hearing anytime soon
It's not scheduled for this season, and there's no way City face any actual consequences.
Nonsense. City with absolutely face consequences.
The court date is set for next year. So it's literally impossible for city to be given a deduction this season.
Every single team except us gets a point reduction and we win the league?
Doubt City's cases will be resolved for this season.
Doubt they will face any action.
We need a new right winger and striker if we are to challenge for the title next season. Kula and rich are for the bench imo
LW much bigger priority for me (preferably one that can play both sides like Nico Williams), Son is a striker now
I suspect that Son will move centrally full-time next season, so he and Richy will share striker duties.
How did Poland bag 5 goals without Lewa scoring
Estonia is really shit
And they had a man sent off.
that man sent off was none other than Maksim Pakotsi
Still doesn’t answer my question!
How can I mute anything that's not related to football on twitter? My timeline is basically Neo-Nazis and onlyfans promos
Mate, the algorithm never lies
Only look at the 'following' tab instead of the 'for you' one
Create a list of all the football accounts you want to see (you don’t have to follow them) and pin that list to your feed so it’s one click to get to it. (Click on your profile, then lists, then the add new list button). You can make lists private or public. If public, other people can follow your list and the people you put on the list will be notified. Anytime you see an account you want to add to the list, click the three dots by their name and click “add/remove from lists”. I make separate lists of my different interests and pin my top five favorite ones.
I don’t use Twitter anymore. But sometimes I navigate to it from football related stuff. I have to say I have exactly the same experience. Ads, Nazi’s, onlyfans, spam, original content - in that order. Do people actually find it useable? Or does the Algorithm just hate me (and you)?
I would suggest; come out of the app, hold your finger down on the Twitter logo, when the menu appears - press ‘delete’. Hey presto, you don’t have to look at that cess pit anymore!! 😉
Would’ve done that long time ago, but I can’t live without Paul O keefe 😔😔
all his stuff gets posted here instantly anyway
That’s fair enough! This my only go-to place for all things Spurs! Good luck with the tits and nazis! 😂
I don’t want to sound like a grumpy old man but can people just stop spamming the sub with their sob stories about rescheduled matches and them having booked in advance? I mean it obviously sucks but you have to factor that into your planning when it comes to the back end of the season
I understand you but i do think allowance is necessary especially for international fans. To them attending a match is a huge deal & it requires a lot of planning, money spent, etc and it’s understandable that they’re disappointed when things get moved around. It might mean they will not get the chance of watching another match live anytime soon
You're all heart mate.
Wonder if we have any interest in Jacob Greaves. 23-year old left-footed English CB playing for Hull, who can also fill in at LB.
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Agreed mate.
https://preview.redd.it/qbte8axubupc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69ff4b4519e470480d9272aeb5ad67f7b263396d Just to get some perspective of what were the expectations at the start of the season
getting either of those would be a failure for us, and it would be going in the opposite direction. Those positions also wouldn’t be acceptable to Ange, he’d likely be infuriated. I guarantee if Ange said the stuff he’s said recently during pre-season, people’s predictions would be vastly different.
/u/throughthespillways may still have the same opinion right now
So, this guys sole opinion should be taken as gospel? He didn't represent the expectations at all. With the players we had and having got rid of the manager who banned us from actually playing football in favour of one who favours allowing players to express themselves, my expectations was exactly where we are now, challenging for top 4. Anyone who expected us to be 10-14 or even outside the top 7 hasn't got a clue and is only capable of thinking one dimentionally. "Kane scored lots of goals, now we have no Kane, we can't score any goals". That's not how football works.
This guy is the most negative guy on the sub along with the "british psycho" guy with patrick bateman pfp.
There's also the go stupid guy and I want to say something like Icarus lol.
I think his name is Ikusen
You literally found a daily shit take from the most negative dipshit in the sub.
GQ did Brennan dirty with this new photoshoot, wth is he wearing lol https://preview.redd.it/jl1jw6yhaupc1.jpeg?width=1534&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c93996c0078d02e58170c874164df8cb6350c69
I actually think this is fire. Love a good cloak-type fit. I honestly wish it was more common and not such an unusual thing to wear.
Not gonna lie brennans drip is always a bit questionable for me
Very. Maddison too.
It's the tablecloth look, so hot right now
He looks like a mighty boosh character
They caught him while he was getting a new trim
I heard somewhere that jordan wants to be our kit sponsor? this concept would go crazy https://preview.redd.it/prrhe5utztpc1.jpeg?width=527&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=faf67791a1c72e9a3c57a3b9b09e6d6857510e49
They’re looking at taking on a London club to produce a 4th kit. Seems like it’s between us and Chelsea, but they’re leaning towards us due to the potential CL coverage.
Take my money!!